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And welcome to the program. We're going to get right
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into it tonight considering this is a relatively long article.
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It's really an editorial that was posted by Lawrence Lessig
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over at the Harvard Crimson. Now, Lawrence Lessig is the R.L.
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Fuhrman Professor of Law and Leadership at Harvard, and he's
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taking Harvard to task in this editorial, folks. I've been
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calling for this kind of rhetoric for quite some time.
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And very few people in academia were willing to stand
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up and say anything about this stuff. Dr. Stephen DeLay
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was one of the very few. So it's nice to
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see Lawrence Lessig show up to the party. I mean,
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a little late, obviously. But still, what do I always
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talk about? If the people that are within these institutions
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aren't holding their peers and each other responsible for their behavior,
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then how can anybody on the outside ever expect for
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that to occur? So it starts on the inside. And
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seeing Lawrence Lessig pen this essay, this editorial here, is
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certainly a step in the right direction. So let's jump
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right into it. and let's see what he has to say.
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This appeared in the Harvard Crimson. Author is Lawrence Lessig.
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Harvard has apparently concluded its review of its relationship to
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the convicted child sex offender Jeffrey E. Epstein. In September 2019,
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after expressing that he profoundly regrets Harvard's association with Epstein,
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university president Lawrence S. Bakehowe promised to review how we
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prevent these situations in the future. And what did we get?
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Like usual, when it comes to these internal reports, or
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we're going to have a real reflective look in the mirror,
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and we're going to see how we can be better.
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Whenever it's that kind of stuff, it usually falls flat
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on its face. At least with my experience here in
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the Epstein case. Every single time one of these groups
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does an internal review, It always turns out to be
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absolute garbage. The report found Harvard had taken no money
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from Epstein after his conviction, though there were further questions
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that merited study. Two weeks ago, after completing that study,
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Harvard determined to shutter the research center Epstein's money had
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founded and discipline its academic director. Yet in these steps,
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Harvard has still not given us a fair accounting of
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our past. And worse, in this latest step, it hides
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that account behind a scapegoat. And that is definitely the case.
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They have scapegoated from the jump over at Harvard. None
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of the people at the top, none of the trustees,
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Lawrence Bacow, none of these other people that are top
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dog at Harvard, people that are supposed to be responsible
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for this sort of thing. None of these people have
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felt the full weight of what occurred. None of them
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have stepped down or lost their positions or lost tenure
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or lost anything like that. Instead, a few of the
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people who were getting that money directly from Epstein ended
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up being the only people to take the fall. And
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while they should have, right, the people that facilitated the
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Epstein money in the first place, the scientists, that he
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was collecting and that were taking money from him, all
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of those sons of bitches should have lost their jobs
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for sure. They should have lost tenure. They should have
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lost everything, honestly. But the same goes for the people
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above them. Is there no accountability when it comes to
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the management level, so to say, in this situation? Is
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it just the professors who should be sanctioned, who should
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lose their jobs? Or should everybody who was around at
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that time, everybody who should have seen what was going on,
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who didn't, either willfully or because they're morons, all of
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those people should not be in the positions that they're in.
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There are plenty of capable people to fill those positions.
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There are three chapters in the evolving relationship between academic
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institutions and Jeffrey Epstein. In
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the first, before his conviction
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in 2008, everyone loves Epstein. And that is the case.
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All of these people were gushing over Epstein. Remember the
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Vanity Fair article? You know, these people were gushing over Epstein.
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And they'll tell you now that, oh, we had no
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idea what Jeffrey Epstein was. There was no signs. Nobody
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had any idea. Meanwhile, we know that's a bunch of BS, right?
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We all know that that's garbage. Epstein didn't wake up
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one morning and decide to become an absolute scumbag pervert.
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This is who he was. This is the kind of
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person he was. This was his character. All of those
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crass jokes while you guys are all around at a
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science conference, that didn't ring a few alarm bells? I mean,
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come on already. There's a time and place for everything.
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You know, you're sitting around with the guys. It's a
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poker game. You want to have some crass language. I
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get it. Yeah, of course. That's what guys do. I
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get it. You're at a science conference. Why do you
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need to have girls with you? Why do you need
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to talk about disgusting topics that, you know, there's no
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place for it in the environment or the setting. And
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that didn't ring any alarm bells, didn't go off for anybody.
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It didn't ring any alarm bells for any of these people.
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Please give me a break. I'm just, you know, I'm
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so sick of the, well, we had no idea. We
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didn't hear anything. We didn't see anything. Well, you certainly
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didn't say anything. In the third, after the 2018 article
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in the Miami Herald detailing his depravity, everyone hates Epstein. Hey,
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hold on a second. You guys should have hated him
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a long time before that. This stuff was out there.
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People were talking about who Epstein was. There was, you know,
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a lot going on in that realm of the atmosphere.
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People knew exactly what Epstein was. It didn't take the
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Julie Brown article to let people know what Jeffrey Epstein was.
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The Julie Brown
article, that got people to start paying attention.
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But in the second, there is an ambiguous dance between
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this generous funder, pedophile, and universities that recognize complexity in
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taking his money. See, and that's one of my biggest
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problems with this. They knew it was wrong to take
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old boy's dough, but they did it anyway. And then
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when they're called out on it, they start with the
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whole nonsense of, well, what do you mean? We had
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no idea. You knew. Everybody knew. You took that money anyway.
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And what you thought was that Jeffrey Epstein was in
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the clear. He did his time. They weren't going to
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come get him again because of all of his connections.
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There was no way that was going to occur. So,
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these dudes hopped right back into bed with him, had
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their hand out, and Jeffrey Epstein was handing out the
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hundreds of thousands. In 2008, former university president Drew G.
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Faust resolved that complexity with clarity. but incompletely. Unlike others,
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such as MIT, Faust determined that Harvard would take no
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more money from Epstein, according to the May 2020 report. Yeah, okay.
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But very much like others, including MIT, she gave no
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directive about how the many other ways that Epstein was
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connected to the university should be affected by her determination.
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Of course, she didn't go all the way. You know
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what that's called, Mr. Lessig? I'm pretty sure you know.
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You're a very skilled lawyer, very intelligent man, well-schooled. Much
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more well-schooled than me, that's for sure. But the cynic
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in me says it was left there on purpose as
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a loophole so they could still get that money while
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retaining plausible deniability. In particular, she gave no guidance about
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how the center that Epstein's main contribution to Harvard had established,
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the program on evolutionary dynamics, should negotiate its continued interactions
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with Epstein. And I'm sure that Mr. Lessig here is
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going to give us a different
avenue and a different
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bit of thought. But for me, the cynic in me,
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and I'm sorry I have to be so cynical when
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dealing with this case, but the track record has made
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it so. So it looks to me like this is
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a loophole that she left in there so that the
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professors could still continue to rake in the dough while
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the university at the same time could say, well, look,
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we have these guidelines in place. We're not involved in that.
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We didn't know anything about it. So it was kind
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of a wink, wink, nudge, nudge kind of deal. In particular...
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because from the start, Epstein was constantly engaged with PED
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and with others through ped and that's the program on
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evolutionary dynamics that's the uh the the the the way
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that they talk about it you know when they abbreviate
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it it's called the ped According to a letter that
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Martin Nowak, the PED's academic director, sent to administrators when
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the center was founded, Harvard's then president, Lawrence H. Summers, huh,
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that name sounds familiar, doesn't it? Got Epstein to pay
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the rent for PED's office, not on Harvard's campus, but
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in commercial space in Harvard Square. And you all remember
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Larry Summers, right? Lawrence H. Summers, good friend of Obama's,
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you know, one of those guys. Yeah, Larry Summers, typical
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academia scuzzball. From the beginning, Epstein treated that space as
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a second office in Cambridge. Epstein traveled to Cambridge regularly
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to meet with Harvard's most luminary, including Summers, regularly, but
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not exclusively, at P.E.D., Those meetings are described as interesting
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and intellectual in Nowak's letter. There is no suggestion they
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involved any inappropriate behavior. Well, beyond, of course, the inappropriateness
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of including Epstein himself. So I'm certainly not laying out
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the charges that there was inappropriate behavior as far as
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abusing girls here. I'll leave that to some of the
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other fantasists that are floating around. What
I am saying, though,
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is Larry Summers is an absolute jerk, an absolute scuzzball,
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and an absolute moron. Larry Summers is the kind of
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guy that epitomizes everything that was wrong with academia and
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their relationship with Epstein. Politically connected, locked in at the university,
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top of his field, and the exact kind of guy
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Jeffrey Epstein loved hanging around. These sores continued long after
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the 2008 ban on raising Epstein money. The question is, why?
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Some thought the ban would be temporary. Some hoped Epstein's
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reputation might be restored. All right, well, hold on, hit
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the brakes. Restored? His reputation restored, huh? Again, we're not
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talking about somebody who was involved in a money scam here.
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We're not talking about somebody who got into a fight
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in the bar. And things went too far and the
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person he was fighting with got hurt severely. You know,
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people make mistakes, right? You can forgive mistakes is what
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I'm trying to get at. But this is no gray
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area mistake. This is no, oh man, I really, really
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screwed up this time. That's not what this was. This
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was human trafficking of children, point blank, period. Some believed
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it morally obligatory to give a criminal a chance at redemption.
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And that's such BS too. All of these elites love
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to talk about that. But what have they done to
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really give people who need a second chance a second chance?
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The dude that got popped for selling some pot. Guy
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on the corner who got nailed with some crack who's
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doing a lot longer than the dude who had the
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same amount of powdered coke. Where are they to help
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these people out? Nowhere to be found, are they? They
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love to bloviate and they love the virtue signal, but
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they don't love to strap on their boots and get
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down to work. Nowak was told as much by his
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spiritual advisor, which he shared in his letter to the administration.
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His spiritual advisor, huh? I mean, are
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spiritual advisor told you that you should help Jeffrey Epstein
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refurbish his image, huh? Talk about passing the buck. Talk
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about absolutely passing the buck. Whatever the reason, the reality
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is that there was no real change in the practical
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relationship that Epstein had to Harvard beyond his ability to
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write Harvard a check. The meetings continued. The relationships grew deeper.
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The conversations on and near campus were many. And there
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are just tons and tons of people who have talked
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about this, who have witnessed it, and it's in their
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report itself. So there's no denying Jeffrey Epstein's presence on
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the campus and around these professors. What continued as well
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was PED's need for money like Epstein's. PED's rent was substantial.
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NOAC reports that at first, after Foss' ban, Harvard had
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agreed to assume it. But after the financial crisis, NOAC
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was informed that he would have to raise it himself.
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So again, Harvard is not getting off the hook here,
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at least not with me. Some people might let them
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off the hook, but not me. They're the institution here.
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They're the ones where the buck stops. So after the
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financial meltdown, you clowns didn't have the money to fund
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this department. So you told this professor it's up to
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him to do it himself. And then there was no
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checks and balances like you had never seen Epstein's name before.
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All of it smacks of absolute BS. Foundations usually don't
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give academic grantees money to cover rent, so everyone knew
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those additional funds would have to be, like Epstein's, from
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private individuals. An FAS Development office staff member encouraged Nowak,
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as late as 2017, to ask Epstein to ask his
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friends to help, according to the May 2020 report. So
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we want Epstein's money, but we don't want the stink
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of Epstein on it. So let's have Epstein middleman it
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and get some of his rich a-hole homies to fill
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the void. And then that'll give us the cover we
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need because we could say, well, Epstein didn't give us
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the money. Insert scumbag here did. As late as 2017
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to ask Epstein to ask his friends to help. Nowak
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followed Harvard's direction. Epstein obliged, securing substantial support from his friend. Oh,
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here's a name that all of you are going to know.
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Leon D. Black, among others. So you see, the Leon
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Black story just keeps getting deeper and deeper. Though Quicksand
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has a halt. And we talked about this months ago.
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Months and months and months ago. That Leon Black was
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in this up to his ears and that he has
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some explaining to do. Now you add on the new
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allegations against Leon Black? Oh yeah, oh boy, it's up
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the creek right now without a paddle. There's no doubt
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about that. Throughout this period, apparently no one with any authority...
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certainly not the university, not its former president, Summers, not
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its development office, not the dozen or so Harvard's most
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elite saw any inappropriateness in this ongoing academic relationship. And
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that right there says it all. Everybody involved, everybody that
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was around, if they're still there, if they're still drawing
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these gigantic ass paychecks at this overpriced, once great university,
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they should all be fired. A new broom sweeps clean.
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What they should do is get Morgan Freeman's character from
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that Stand By Me movie and have him show up
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at Harvard and whip these guys into shape. Despite the
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obvious harm that a sex offender could trigger in the
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members of our community, who themselves might have been victims
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of sexual abuse, the elite of Harvard's elite continue to
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nurture a relationship with a sex offender. Yeah, because that's
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what the elite do. I hate to be the bearer
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of bad news for anyone who holds these people up
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on high, but the so-called elite? Yeah, that's a class
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of sick-ass people. A whole group of people who literally
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have zero morals and who do not care about anything
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that does not increase their wealth or their power. And
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that's not just me saying it, their actions bear it out.
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Despite the clarity of all of our views now, they
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apparently saw no wrong in what all of them were
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doing then. At least until Chapter 3, when all worked
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diligently to forget what had happened between 2008 and 2018. Yo,
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Lessig is going hard in the paint here. He's really
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shooting from the hip and giving all of these guys
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the business, as he should. It's about time someone at
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Harvard stood up and did the right thing. Harvard's May
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2020 report celebrated Faust's moral clarity. but it identified some
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details that required further investigation. In March, Harvard completed that determination.
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It did not release any public accounting. Instead, its conclusions
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were shared internally by email to the affected departments. Predictably,
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that email was leaked. And in this day and age,
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if you have some sort of explosive email and you're
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in a A situation like at an institution like Harvard,
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you have to expect that the email is getting leaked.
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So you better be on your game, be on your
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P's and Q's, and say exactly what you want to
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say in that email. The effect was completely foreseeable. Airbrushed
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from the history are the many Harvard luminaries who participated in,
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and encouraged, the ongoing relationship with Epstein after 2008. Left
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standing alone is NOAC, PED's academic director, who is now
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to be disciplined. And disciplined is in quotes. He's not wrong. NOAC,
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while he should be disciplined and he should be in
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big trouble for all of this, and like I said,
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lose his job in my opinion, all of these other
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people need to lose their jobs too. What's protecting them?
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That they're a trustee? That they're a so-called part of
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the elite? Enough already with these people. And thus, we,
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the community, are allowed the comfortable view that Drew Faust
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got it right in 2008 and the university followed her
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lead even if a very few among us apparently didn't
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get the memo. So, kind of a cover, right, for
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Harvard here with that statement. Oh, it's not the whole institution.
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We got it right with what Faust said, but there
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are still some Yes, that doesn't cut it with me. Sorry.
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Everybody who was around, let me be very clear. Everybody
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who was around, who was involved when Epstein donated that money,
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they all need to be fired. Yet this framing is absurd.
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And its lie is revealed in the thinness of the
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charges against Martin Nowak. Because Nowak has not been punished
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for associating with Epstein. How could he be when so
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many others from Harvard, much more famous and prominent, had
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associated with Epstein as well. And again, it comes back to,
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for me anyway, this is a Harvard problem, folks. Something
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stinks at that university. And I wouldn't spend one red
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cent to send my child there. Not one cent. It
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is absurd what occurred in those alleged hallowed halls. Neither
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has he been punished because he asked Epstein to help
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him address PED's funding needs by securing donations from Epstein's friend,
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Leon Black. How could he be when Harvard's development office
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itself asked Novak to ask Epstein for help? And there's
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the rub of it, right? And he gets to the
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heart of the issue, in my opinion. And that is,
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everybody who was there, everybody involved, all of these people
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that are hitting us with virtuous signaling, okay? The virtue
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signaling has to stop by these people. Somebody has to
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take responsibility for what occurred. You're all making big bucks.
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And with that big money comes big responsibility. Or it
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should be. Rather, NOAC is being disciplined because of offenses
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that are plenty not offenses at all, or that when
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committed were not viewed as anything more than simple mistakes.
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The most extraordinary of these is the charge in Faculty
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of Arts and Sciences Dean Claudine Gay's notification to NOAC
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which states that he exhibited profound negligence in misrepresenting the
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source of PEDs matching funds to one of his funding sources,
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the Templeton Foundation. This is a gross misrepresentation in itself. Yeah,
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I agree. Not a big fan of Claudine Gay or
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the way she handled this. And to make Nowak the
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scapegoat and the only one really getting punished is laughable,
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considering we know the relationship somebody like Larry Summers had
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with Jeffrey Epstein. If they were to sanction everybody at
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Harvard who had a relationship with Epstein, those would be
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some empty ass halls, folks. The May report had speculated
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this might have happened, but NOAC's emails with the Templeton
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Foundation reveal that the precise words used to report his
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funding were actually requested by the foundation. The Templeton Foundation
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was neither confused or misled meaning there could be no misrepresentation.
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So they knew nothing was misrepresented to them. They knew
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exactly what they were getting into. They knew what the
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money was for, and they knew where the money originated.
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They did not care. And that's really what it comes
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down to. That's what it boils down to. The balance
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is just as weak. From the very start, Harvard knew
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Epstein treated PED as a second office. According to the
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May 2020 report, Harvard knew as early as 2006 that
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Epstein even had his own phone. So, again, Epstein is
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set up, got this office, Larry Summers sets that up,
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got himself a phone line. He's Mr. Big Shit on
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the campus of Harvard now. Yeah, I'm Jeffrey Epstein. College dropout,
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dropout here, dropout there, but got myself a fellowship at Harvard.
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What an absolute joke. And what disrespect to the people
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who actually work hard for those fellowships. According to NOAC,
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Summers walked with Epstein as he secured access to PED's
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offices with his own keycard. Not once did he or
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the university say that this access was wrong or must end.
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But now NOAC is to be disciplined in part because
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PED gave Epstein a different key card after the Harvard
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access system had changed. So even after they changed the system,
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the access system, even after, you know, they updated the locks,
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they had to make sure their boy Epstein was taken
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care of, right? They had to make sure their golden
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ticket was taken care of. They had to make sure
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Jeffrey was all right. Sure, I guess one could say
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that a university-wide change in security protocols was meant to
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signal to PED that it should stop granting Epstein access
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to the PED offices. But wouldn't a memo from the
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administration have been a clearer and cheaper way to send
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that message? Well, they got money to burn there, obviously.
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I mean, with the insane amount of money they charge
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the students, every single toilet bowl should be gold-plated. They
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should all be eating five-star meals every night in the commissary. And,
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you know, whatever the top Egyptian count sheets are, they
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gotta have those. This is Harvard, after all! Finally, NOAC
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has to be disciplined because the Center allowed Epstein's biography
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to appear on PED's webpage after Epstein's publicist requested it.
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Of course the story of center benefactors commonly appear on
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center webpages. Of course they do. That's part of it, right?
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What do you think? These guys donate all of this
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money and they don't get anything on the flip back?
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Of course they do. But during a period in which
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Harvard was inviting Jeffrey Epstein to the launch of its
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capital campaign and the most elite of the elite at
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Harvard were regularly meeting with Epstein at PED and around Cambridge...
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FAS blames NOAC for failing to recognize that it was
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a misuse of the Harvard.edu domain to reveal Epstein as
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a friend of PED. It wasn't wrong to take his
money, okay?
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It wasn't wrong to use him as a benefactor. It
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wasn't wrong to give him an office. But it was
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wrong to let everybody know that. All about saving face.
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It's never about the people who were affected. It's never
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about the girls who were abused or anything like that.
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You would think, with as much involvement people from Harvard have,
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that they'd start their own sort of program here where
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they'd offer free courses to these gals. None of these
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offenses would have even been noticed but for Harvard's need
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to appear vigilant, if only against one of the very
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many who continue to engage Epstein at Harvard after 2008.
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That one? It's Scapegoat. It was wrong for Harvard to
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continue any association with Epstein after 2008. No one should
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be forced to live or work in an environment that
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celebrates in any way a man who crossed this critical line.
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Or a woman at that, for that matter. Let's be
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very clear. 38% of people who are engaging in trafficking
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are women. Alright, we went through that report already. But
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the point stands. Nobody should feel uncomfortable at work. Nobody
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should feel uncomfortable... at school. And this environment, I'll tell
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you what, not an environment I'd want my people in,
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that's for sure. Sex abuse is permanent. Its survivors carry
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its costs forever. All of them are entitled, at the
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very least, to an environment that does not trigger re-traumatization.
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To have suffered from the likes of an Epstein and
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then see Harvard's most elite hanging with Epstein is to
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add injury to insult. And that is a fact. That
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is definitely a fact. And it's no different, let's be
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very clear, with Kamala Harris hanging out with Bill Clinton.
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We have to be consistent here, right? None of these
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dudes should be given air to breathe if they're involved
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in this sort of thing. And this wrong is about
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much more than funding. It's about the continuing relationship with
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so many at Harvard. Our accounting for that is wildly incomplete.
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And it betrays the truth and a commitment to institutional
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integrity to allow Harvard to stand as innocent while one
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faculty member went rogue. And look, I couldn't agree more
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with what he's saying here, folks. I think that NOAC
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needs to be disciplined, needs to be punished, but everybody does.
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I just want to drive that point home. The story
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of Chapter 2 at Harvard is not the story of
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one bad apple. It is of an institution blinded by what? Money? Brilliance? Celebrity?
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From what seems to us now as an obvious moral truth.
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Of course, we were right not to take Epstein's money
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after 2008. But we were deeply wrong to continue to
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celebrate him at Harvard in all the ways that so
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many of the most prominent among us did. That is powerful.
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And he's calling to account all of his colleagues on
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campus who took part in refurbishing this guy's image and
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helping him have this access. That wrong is not excused
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or hidden with a scapegoat. We need an honest accounting
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of that past and a plan for how Harvard will
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avoid this failure in the future. Should all criminals be
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banished always? Should particular criminals, those whose crimes particularly affect
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members of the Harvard community, be banished always? And by always,
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I don't mean for any purpose. An event at which
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a criminal was asked to reflect on at least some
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crimes or even offer his justification could be different, at
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least if properly framed from a workshop in which the
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criminal is just one more participant celebrated only or especially
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because he happens to be rich. These are hard questions,
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no doubt, especially in an age of tweet-length attention spans. Boy,
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can I get a clap from the back of the
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room there? That is exactly the age we're in. The
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attention span of a tweet. But it betrays our tradition
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to hide from these
more complicated questions, simply because some
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might misunderstand. We are a university that openly and eagerly
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engaged with a child sex predator, not just before he
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was convicted, but long after. How did our culture allow
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this to happen? And how can we now allow this
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failure to be obscured by scapegoating just one Yes, Harvard's
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virtue has been signaled to anyone blind to what actually
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happened right here among us. But the vice of what happened,
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the open and regular engagement with a sex offender, has
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not been reckoned here. It is that which Harvard must
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finally account for, openly, fairly, and honestly. Well, folks, there
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you have it. Somebody finally connected to Harvard. Somebody with
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a serious voice on campus calling his colleagues to account.
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If you'd like to contact me, you can do that
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at bobbycapucci at protonmail.com That's B-O-B-B-Y C-A-P-U-C-C-I at protonmail.com You
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can also find me on Twitter at B-O-B-B-Y underscore C-A-P-U-C-C-I
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All of the links that go with this episode can
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be found in the description box. We're going to talk
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about Harvard and Jeffrey Epstein. Now everybody listening to this podcast,
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everybody following this case, knows for a fact that Jeffrey
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Epstein had a very, very comfortable and cozy relationship with many,
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many scientists. And a good portion of those scientists and
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academics were based at Harvard. Now, the other day when
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the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals made their ruling, I
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said right away, why is there a judge from Harvard
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overseeing this ruling? Now, even if Judge Newsom is completely
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not tainted and he's unbiased and all of that jazz,
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it's about optics. Don't these people understand that optics matter?
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There should have been a different judge who sat on
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that panel. Not somebody with ties to Harvard, not somebody
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who could have had ties to any of these people
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that Epstein was funding. It's just, it's ridiculous on its
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face that a judge from Harvard would be tasked to
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sit on the three-judge panel. You're telling me there's not
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another judge on that panel that could have sat for
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that hearing? Harvard is an absolute den of scum and villainy,
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in my opinion. These people are horrendous. And the way
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that they covered up their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein for
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so long is enough to make your head spin. Anybody
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who's sending their kid to Harvard at this point... I
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don't even know what to tell you. Talk about a
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waste of money. Plenty of better universities to send your
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children at this point. These so-called higher education institutions, these
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Ivy League schools, are the absolute worst, in my opinion.
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The absolute worst. And we see it time and time
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again when we hear stories like this. And we hear
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about how Jeffrey Epstein was associated with all of these
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high-profile universities, and he had an office at Harvard, and
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he was given this one money, and he was... donating
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money to this program, and he was dropping off Gucci
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bags full of dough to this one. You know, come on.
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Enough is enough already. And these are the same institutions
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that will stand atop their ivory towers and scream down
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at the rest of us about how we should live
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our lives? The party's over for them as well. The
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academics are on notice. We've been talking about the academics
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on this podcast from the jump. These people are the
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kind of folks that are usually sliding underneath the spotlight.
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But what we've learned in this case is that these
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academics are just as sick as their buddies in the
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financial sector, it seems. So let's jump into this article
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by the Daily Mail and see what they have to say.
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This article is from the Daily Mail. The author is
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Francis Mulraney. Headline? Harvard math professor is placed on leave
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for giving Jeffrey Epstein his own office on campus and
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allowing the school's website to be used to
burnish the
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pedophile's reputation after his 2008 conviction. Review finds. Now, again, remember,
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this is after his first conviction, folks, okay? We're not
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talking about previously where they can make pretend and at
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least try and make the case, well, we didn't know
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he hadn't been arrested, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. No.
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This is after the fact. This is how corrupt people
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are when it comes to money. They don't care who's
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going to fund their science or who is giving them
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an endowment. As long as they're getting the money, as
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long as their project's moving forward to hell with what
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the person has done previously in their lives, who cares
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if they're a child molester, a sex trafficker? Nah, no
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big deal. Give me some of your money. And then
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these people are shocked. When it comes out, and there's
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an uproar, and the public is enraged? I don't understand
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what planet these people think they live on, but they're
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certainly not living on planet Earth. They have a completely
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separate reality from the rest of us, and that's where
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they live, and within their reality, all of their actions
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make sense. Meanwhile, any civilized person who's taking a look
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at their actions knows that these people are sick and twisted.
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A Harvard math professor was placed on administrative leave Friday
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after a damning new report claimed he had continued to
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maintain an office on campus for convicted sex offender Jeffrey
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Epstein even after the deceased financier's pedophile's 2008 sex crimes conviction.
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Martin Nowak, the lead on Harvard's program for evolutionary dynamics,
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provided Epstein with a campus keycard which allowed him to
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visit more than 40 times between 2010 and 2018, the
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report states. Now imagine, you're a parent and you send
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your kid to Harvard thinking they're going to get this
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great education, they're going to be, you know, 10 steps
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ahead of everybody else who didn't go to Harvard, etc., etc.
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And they show up and they have Martin Nowak as
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one of their professors. Well, because they have Martin Nowak
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as one of their professors, they're now exposed to Jeffrey Epstein.
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As a parent, do you think you would be comfortable
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with that? I know I certainly wouldn't be. A convicted
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sex offender having an office on the Harvard campus running
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around with a bunch of girls that are, you know, 18,
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19 years old? This is a good idea? And for
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the Harvard brass to act like they had no idea,
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that's ridiculous. There needs to be a purging of the
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board at Harvard the same way the New York Academy
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of Art needs to be purged. These people are sick.
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A room in the department was established as Jeffrey's office
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and Epstein, who died by apparent suicide in Manhattan jail
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in 2019, even had his own Harvard phone line. Again.
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so for the higher-ups to act like they didn't know
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what was going on it's a joke okay so who
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set up the phone line the IT department so the
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IT director didn't know what was going on the IT
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director didn't kick that up these investigations are a bunch
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of BS alright these investigations We never see the people
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in charge get in trouble with these internal investigations. What
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we see is the low-hanging fruit. The easy person to
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act is who they go after. Never the CEO, never
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the trustees, none of that shit. It's always the professor. Like,
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it's just the professor's fault. Now, don't get me wrong.
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NOAC should shoulder a majority of the blame for bringing
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Epstein around. But what about his bosses? Is there no
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responsibility for those who are overseeing the department? A report
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added that Nowak also signed off on false, flattering statements
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about Epstein for the school's website as the deceased financier, pedophile,
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attempted to rehabilitate his image after his 2008 conviction for
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soliciting sex from an underage girl. And again, how many
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--> 00:41:54.449
times do we talk about enablers on the podcast? We
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have different rings of people who helped Jeffrey Epstein do
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what he did, and Nowak is definitely an enabler. He
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helped to rehabilitate his image. He gave him an office
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on Harvard. He gave him the credibility of Jeffrey Epstein saying, well,
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I'm invited back to Harvard. Why won't you invite me
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to your party? If they let me at Harvard, I mean,
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how bad can I be? And you see, this is
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the problem with all of the enablers. And this is
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why all of the enablers must be called out. Because
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without their actions, without them enabling Jeffrey Epstein, Epstein would
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have no... There would have been no way Epstein would
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have been able to... been active the way he was
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and conduct business the way he did. The professor's alleged
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actions came after the then Harvard president had barred the
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school from accepting any further donations from Epstein in 2008. So...
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They don't have any control over what's going on is
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what they're saying. The president of the board has no
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say on who has an office at Harvard or how
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their professors conduct themselves or who they associate with. What
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are you trying to say here? Are you trying to
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say that Harvard, there's no leadership structure and everybody just
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does what they want? Because for the last 11 years,
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nobody said shit about this. Now all of a sudden
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it's a big problem, huh? Now all of a sudden
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Harvard cares. You're not fooling me, Harvard. You don't care.
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It's all about optics at this point. It's all about
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saving face. You never cared about the survivors, and you
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still don't care about the survivors. Epstein pumped $ 9. 2 million
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in donations into the university between 1998 and 2007, according
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to the month-long investigation carried out by Harvard's General Counsel
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and an outside law firm. Again, Harvard's General Counsel? So
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you're telling me that the internal lawyer for Harvard is
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going to give this a look and give it a
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real unbiased look and not care if Harvard leaves with
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a black eye? Yeah, okay. Who's paying his salary, folks?
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That's right, Harvard. Do you really think this man is
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going to do a pristine job or this woman is
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going to do a pristine job of looking into this
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case and unfurling all of the facts as they are?
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Or are they going to hide a couple of things,
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put something in their pocket? We'll report this, but we
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won't report that. Now, I'm not saying that's what happened,
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because I don't know. What I am saying, though, is
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I do not believe for a second that we can
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believe that a place like Harvard or Yale or any
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of these corporations is going to be transparent when they're
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investigating themselves. He was known for using his money to
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gain access to academics, professing an interest in science, and
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he earned a reputation for funding some of America's most
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prestigious institutions, such as MIT and Harvard. Yeah, we know that.
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And it wasn't just those institutions either. There were a
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lot of state universities that he was involved with. We
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know that at Arizona State with Lawrence Krauss, he had
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involvement there as well, as we touched on recently. So
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it's not just the most prestigious institutions. It's any institution
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where Jeffrey Epstein felt like he could get a foothold
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and benefit from a relationship with a university. In return,
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Epstein was welcomed onto campuses and given the opportunity to
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meet with faculty. He would also invite academics to his
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private Caribbean island. Oh, I'm sure he would. Because, as
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you all know, in my opinion, all of these academics,
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for the most part, are just as sick as his
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political buddies. You're telling me all of these nerds, and
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that's what these academics are, folks, make no mistake, that
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all of these nerds who never got girls in high school,
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probably never got girls in college, get invited... to Jeffrey
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Epstein's island, and there's all these beautiful girls running around,
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and Epstein says, you know, the island is yours. You're
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telling me that these dudes weren't involved? They didn't know
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what was going on? They didn't know that there was
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a bunch of young girls running around this island? Give
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me a break. Give me a break. And we already know...
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about guys like Minsky. We already know what Virginia Roberts
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has said about Marvin Minsky. And to think that any
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of these other academics or scientists weren't partaking as well,
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I don't believe that. In my opinion, there's zero chance
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that that was occurring. The report published Friday expanded on
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what was already known about Epstein's link with Harvard, claiming
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that his presence on campus continued even after the university's
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then-president Drew Gilpin, Drew, excuse me, Drew Gilpin Fost barred
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any more donations from the pedophile. About $ 200, 000 of the
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funding provided by Epstein before the cutoff in 2008 remains unspent,
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the school said, and will be given to groups that
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support victims of sexual violence. And that's always their go-to, right?
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It's going to be given to groups that support sexual
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violence or human trafficking. Who are these groups, all right?
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Why don't all of these... people who accepted money from
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Jeffrey Epstein, get in contact with the lawyers of the
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survivors and try and coordinate with them to see where
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this money should go. Maybe the survivors have a charity
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that this money should be donated to. You know, the
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people directly affected by your decisions at Harvard, maybe you
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should try and help those people out. The report found
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that while Harvard's top leaders cut ties with Epstein in 2008,
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he maintained close ties with NOAC, a math professor and
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director of the Program for Evolutionary Dynamics, a research center
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created in 2003 with $ 6. 5 million from Epstein. So it
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wasn't just a funded project, okay, folks? He created the division.
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He put up six and a half million dollars in
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seed money to create the division at Harvard. Now you
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mean to tell me that none of the presidents, none
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of the trustees, none of the board members knew who
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Jeffrey Epstein was or what he was up to? I
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know this was in 2003, but come on, the rumors
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were already swirling. And yet Harvard had no problem sliding
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right into bed with this serpent. It's one of those
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cases where it's just, you look at it and you
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say to yourself, how is it even possible that something
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like this could even occur? I mean, it's just crazy, folks.
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It is just crazy as hell. NOAC gave Epstein an
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office at the program's building in Harvard Square, the review found,
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and circumvented campus security rules to grant the financier, pedophile,
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a key card and unlimited access to the facility. Now,
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we know from firsthand accounts from Maria Farmer and others
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that Ghislaine Maxwell used to love to cruise places like
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Central Park looking for nubiles. Now, you mean to tell
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me that a campus like Harvard wouldn't be prime hunting
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ground for Jeffrey Epstein and his stooges to try and
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lure girls into his atmosphere with these promises and all
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of these pipe dreams that he loved to pass out?
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It's a very uncomfortable thought to think that a sexual
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predator and a man like Jeffrey Epstein had access to
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a campus like Harvard with his own office. It's really
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disturbing to think about. Epstein frequently visited Office 610, which
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was known as Jeffrey's office, and met with scholars to
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hear about their work, the review found. He brought his
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own rug and hung his own photos on the wall.
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And none of the administrators knew, huh? None of the
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administrators ever ventured down to this wing of the school?
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None of the board members ever went and checked in
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on what Mr.
Nowak was up to? Wasn't important or something? Or,
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you know, you guys just sit in your ivory-towered office
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all day, drinking spritzers and eating caviar? What the hell
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is going on over there? Nowak argued that the office
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was Epstein's in name only, the report says, but others
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in the building said it was commonly known to be
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reserved for the pedophile. So, all those people that said
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it was commonly reserved for Epstein, where were you outing this?
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Why were you quiet? Why were you being complicit? I
729
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have news for you. Anywhere I'm at, somebody like Jeffrey
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Epstein walks in the building, there's going to be a
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few words that tumble out of my mouth. For these
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people just to sit by and let this man have
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an office within their wing of the campus, it's gross.
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We do not take this step lightly, but the seriousness
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of the matter leads us to believe it is not
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appropriate for Professor Nowak to continue in his role, wrote
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Claudine Gay, Dean of Harvard's Faculty of Arts and Sciences,
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of the decision to place Nowak on leave. You should
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all be placed on leave. If I had a kid
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at Harvard, I'd be going crazy right now. I would
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be at the campus demanding that people are fired. It's
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not just the professor's fault. It's definitely a majority of
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the blame falls on his shoulders, but there's no institutional control.
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So how can we believe that this isn't still going
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on or won't go on in the future when Harvard
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refuses to take the reins and have some sort of
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institutional control over what's going on within its buildings? Harvard's
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report urges the university to develop clearer procedures for reviewing
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potentially controversial gifts and for enforcing bans on certain donors.
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Bokow said he has instructed top officials to implement the
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suggestions as soon as possible. Yeah, about two decades too late.
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All of a sudden, now it's a big deal because
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you're in the media? All
of a sudden, because you're
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tied to Jeffrey Epstein, you're going to institute all of
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these new steps? A place like Harvard should have all
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of their ducks in a row from the jump. It
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shouldn't need outside pressure from content creators, legacy media, and
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survivors to do the right thing. A place like Harvard,
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where they're basically teaching and educating the leaders of tomorrow,
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should have, at the very least, a bit of a
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moral compass, in my opinion. We will always do our
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best to improve, Bacow said in a campus message on Friday.
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The report issued today describes principled decision-making, but also reveals
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institutional and individual shortcomings that must be addressed, not only
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for the sake of the university, but also in recognition
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of the courageous individuals who sought to bring Epstein to justice.
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So now all of a sudden he's talking about, oh yeah,
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and I want to make sure that I let everybody
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know that the survivors are brave. Well, that's nice. Lip
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service is nice and all, but what are you doing
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for the survivors? What are you doing? Have you reached
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out to them as a university to apologize? At the
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very least, you think that would be a step that
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should be taken, right? I know if I was in
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charge of this university, I'd be on the phone with
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every single one of these gals that has come forward
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with a claim against Epstein, and I'd be apologizing for
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for the university's role in enabling Jeffrey Epstein's behavior because
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this is just, this is outrageous. Epstein killed himself in
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his New York City prison cell, allegedly, in August after
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he was arrested on sex trafficking charges. He had pleaded
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not guilty to sexually abusing girls as young as 14
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and young women in New York and Florida in the
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early 2000s. In lawsuits, women say the abuse spanned decades.
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Among other allegations against Nowak, the report alleged that he
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allowed his program's website to be used to burnish Epstein's
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reputation after his 2008 conviction. Boy, isn't that nice. Talk
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about enabling Jeffrey Epstein. This Martin Nowak character? Top notch enabler.
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Imagine a Harvard professor vouching for you amongst his buddies
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and his friends and, hey, if Nowak says he's cool,
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he must be cool, right? In reality, Nowak was just
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another one of Jeffrey Epstein's stooges, it looks like, and
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another one that didn't care a lick about Epstein's crimes.
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He only cared how deep he could get his hand
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into Jeffrey Epstein's pocket. In 2013, at the request of
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Epstein's publicist, Nowak agreed to post links to the pedophile's websites,
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which had flattering descriptions of Epstein and made false claims
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about his levels of giving to Harvard, the review found.
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Oh yeah, I'm sure they did. They had to throw
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that in there, right? False claims of giving. Yeah, I
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think we need a second look at that, a more
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stringent look at that. Nowak is also accused of devoting
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a page on the program's website to Epstein, also at
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the request of the financier's publicist. Pedophile's publicist, you mean.
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There's no evidence that Harvard's top officials knew about the postings,
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the report says. Epstein's page on the website was removed
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in 2014 after Harvard received complaints from a sexual assault
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survivors group. The report concludes that Harvard's senior leaders acted
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appropriately in their dealings with Epstein. Of course it does.
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Has there ever been one of these internal reports that
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really put the management structure on blast? Has there ever
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been one of these reports that really did the right
813
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thing and outed all of the rats at the top? Nope,
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never does. Always the low-hanging fruit. Just like the prison guards,
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Harvard as an institution is no different from the corrupt
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Department of Justice. Sorry, folks, just the facts. Former President
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Drew Foss decided to bar donations from Epstein after his conviction,
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--> 00:55:52.050
the review says, and a university dean rejected a 2013
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request from some faculty to reconsider the decision, saying it
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would be inconsistent with Harvard's values. Okay, some faculty, let's
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get the names of those faculty members that thought it
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was a good idea after Jeffrey Epstein was convicted of
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his crimes... to take donations from him. Can we have
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their names, please? Put their names out so we can
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disgust them and their disgusting behavior. But some faculty enjoyed
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close ties with Epstein. The report says a number, just
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a number, no names, no specific number, nothing, of faculty
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members visited Epstein at his homes in New York, Florida,
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New Mexico, and the Virgin Islands. Again, this is, I
830
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want names, all right? The report needs to name all
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of the professors involved so we can go through them
832
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one by one and figure out what their role was
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in the Epstein organization, because obviously that's not a job
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that the prosecutors want to do. It's not a job
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that the legacy media in America wants to do. They
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leave it up to the Daily Mail to do the
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right thing. So can we get those names so that
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we can get busy building the blueprint? Some said they
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visited him in jail or took trips on his planes.
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The visits were done in a personal capacity, the report said,
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and do not appear to violate Harvard rules. Yeah, I
842
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don't care if it's personal, professional, whatever it may be.
843
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If you're one of my employees and you think it's
844
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a good idea to go hang out with Jeffrey Epstein,
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and in turn that's going to cause my business problems... Well,
846
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I got news for you. You're out on your ass.
847
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You're fired. All right? A, because it's bad business, and B,
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because I don't want to be associated with somebody hanging
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out with Jeffrey Epstein. Yet these faculty members, unnamed by
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the way, at Harvard have no problem. In fact, they're
851
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writing to the administration
saying that they should be able
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to accept donations from this man. What a bunch of sick,
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disgusting bastards. In total, Epstein made more than 20 donations
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to Harvard, the largest of which was the $ 6. 5 million
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to NOAC's research group. Smaller donations supported faculty research in psychology, economics, art,
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and education. Although his gifts were blocked after 2008, the
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report found that Harvard accepted $ 736, 000 between his arrest and conviction.
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So while Jeffrey Epstein was on trial and waiting to
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be convicted, Harvard was still accepting donations from him. In
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their infinite wisdom, as one of the top tier universities
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in the world, They couldn't figure out that taking money
862
00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:31.639
from Jeffrey Epstein was a bad idea. Yet we're going
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to listen to these guys about geopolitical issues or about
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health issues or about economics issues? Sorry, Harvard is a
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shit school in my opinion, okay? That's right, I said it,
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a shit school. Most went to Harvard's medical school, while 150,000
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went to its faculty of arts and sciences. We all
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know how he loves the arts programs, right? He loves
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naive art students. He loves naive artists. Jeffrey Epstein was
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a sick and disgusting bastard, and Harvard enabled his behavior.
871
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Point blank, period. Harvard President Lawrence Bacow called for the
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review in September 2019 amid public outcry over the university's
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relationship with Epstein. Other schools have faced similar scrutiny, including
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nearby Massachusetts Institute of Technology, which revealed in January that
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Epstein donated $ 750, 000 and visited the campus at least nine
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times after his conviction. The former director of MIT's fan
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media lab, Joy Ito, resigned last year amid uproar over
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his ties to Epstein. He issued a public apology and
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vowed to raise money for victims of trafficking. That's what
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they all say when they get busted, right? Oh, well,
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I'm sorry that I took part in... hurting the survivors
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of Epstein, but what I'm gonna do now is I'm
883
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gonna raise money for victims of trafficking. That's what I'm
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gonna do, because that makes everything better. To these people,
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money makes the world go round. They have no conscience,
886
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they have no moral compass, and they do not care
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about me, you, or your children. Get it through your heads, folks.
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01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:16.909
These people do not care. We're up against some of
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01:00:16.949 --> 01:00:19.510
the most evil people in the history of the world,
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And all of these enablers, all of these people that
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vouched for Jeffrey Epstein, all of these people that were
892
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:30.059
in his inner circle, all of these people that he
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01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:35.400
used to refurbish his image, all of you are disgusting
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01:00:35.780 --> 01:00:43.320
ass excuses for human beings. And as the information continues
895
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to roll out, and the names continue to come into
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01:00:47.860 --> 01:00:53.079
the light, we will continue to talk about all of
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01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:56.059
the people who were involved with Jeffrey Epstein and his
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criminal organization until they all face justice. If you'd like
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to contact me, you can do that at bobbycapucci at protonmail.com.
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That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at protonmail.com. You can also