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Hello everyone! Welcome back to another Cosmic Circus Comics review.
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My name is Vin, with me is Vic.
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Hello, welcome. After a very long time. It's been so long!
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It's been so long! It's great to see you guys. Today we're talking about Marvel's Thumbies!
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All right, so, Vic, what comics are we talking about today?
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So we have Marvel Zombies Dead Days from 2007, Marvel Zombies 2005,
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Marvel Zombies 2, 2007, and Marvel Zombies Return 2009, all full-story arcs.
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That's right. There's a huge, like, Wikipedia calls it a meta-series.
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There's a huge franchise of Marvel Zombies within the larger Marvel comics.
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There's so many that they even published are Marvel's Omnibus called the Marvel Zomnibus.
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Then there was even more.
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Then they published a sequel, the Marvel Zomnibus Returns.
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Oh, gosh. Those are the only two Omnibuses that I do not care about.
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There's so much Marvel. And then they keep making more. We're going to talk
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about it at the end of the video today.
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But literally, September 17th, Wednesday, they released a new Marvel's Omni
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series. It just started.
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Marvel zombies will never die.
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Oh, no. Anyway.
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right okay so marvel
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Zombies was created by robert kirkman vick what is he famous for not invincible
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the other thing what's the other thing honestly.
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I can't remember anything right now about
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It the walking dead so they took.
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I have not read any the walking dead comic book
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So they took walking dead guy and they said we want
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walking dead but marvel and so he made marvel zombies
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make sense so how it works is there's
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marvel zombies 2005 that's the
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original then they made a prequel called dead date and dead days is probably
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better if you just read that first you agree yeah definitely yeah then there's
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marvel zombies 2 the marvel zombies return that's the core the core series then
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there's so many there's like a battle world spinoff there is There's Marvel Zombies 3, 4, 5.
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There's some Deadpool stuff. There's Army of Darkness. It was a crossover.
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There's, my God, there's so many. There's a Marvel Zombie, singular.
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There's Marvel Zombies, Black, White, and Blood.
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Like, I could just keep going, man. There's, like, probably 20 different spinoffs of Marvel Zombies.
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And, of course, there's the What If TV show, like, the episode.
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And now there's the new TV show coming out September 24th.
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So, Vic, what was your overall impression of these comics that you read?
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I will answer with just one very, very short question called why? Just why?
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If these zombies weren't dead,
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You would have just killed them. Oh.
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Okay. First of all, I'm not a very big zombie fan. The only zombie product,
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projects, rather, that I'm fond of are The Last of Us, both the game and the show.
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The Walking Dead. that I've watched few seasons, first few seasons of it,
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28 series, 28 days, 28 weeks, 28 years.
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The Cornetto trilogy, in a way.
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Sure, sure, Sean, that is great, man.
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Yeah, that's the one. And sort of Minecraft, in a way, because we have zombies there, whatever.
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but I don't think if there's anything else with zombies that I even care about
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Multiverse of Madness? That and a zombie That was pretty cool, right?
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But when I think of a zombie, it's like a mindless or brain dead persona who
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wants to just live for hunger or whatever Yeah Yeah,
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just like that But Marvel Zombies is another pair of shoes.
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Like, it has all of those zombie tropes.
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But it's just something that I do not like to see in superhero comic books.
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Okay. You don't like the mix of genres?
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Yeah, because sometimes, you know, comic books are crazy enough for me.
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Even those that are not too crazy.
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But, you know, when something is as crazy as this or even remotely reminds me,
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for example, a Bizarre World from the All-Star Superman or the other projects like Not Deceased also,
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for example, or the Batman Who Laughs series where things get crazy way out of bounds.
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then i'm starting to look deeper
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to see something that i can connect to in a
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way something more exciting something more interesting in it but when it comes
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to zombies i don't see anything like that because because in the case of marvel
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zombies just like a typical zombie project but with superheroes okay
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So it's a zombie genre first with just superhero costumes.
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Yeah, you just put superheroes in it, and they become zombies too.
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So it's just typical plague, typical people trying to survive, eat, everyone.
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And we've seen this before, but better.
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Yeah, many times, many, many times. Oh, I also forget about the I Am Legend,
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because it's also sort of a zombie project, but with the alternate ending,
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we see that that's not it.
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The movie, because I think that the book is vampires, but the movie is zombies, right?
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Yeah, a movie is like zombies, but in the end we see they are intelligent in
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a way in the alternate ending, which is canon right now.
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What would you say are the major differences between vampires and zombies?
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Also vampires okay vampires i like better than zombies because vampires typically
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usually have a interesting backstory yeah
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Yeah the tragedy tragedy.
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Yeah tragic tragic that's why blade uh
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every blade project even blade trinity is better
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than marvel zombies because you have vampires and
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yeah and you also vampires have more i
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all developed from okay okay and when
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you have a basic vampire you can tell so
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many stories with with a single vampire or
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with the even the composition the
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construction of it of this term you can choose
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very different paths where to lead how to develop
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them and for example it's not funny
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what i'm gonna say but i like the twilight series the vampires
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and i think that when you throw all this
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comedic stuff the love stuff or whatever that
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people are making fun of you have an interesting background
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of entire vampire vampire civilization
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i say because you have the typical normal vampires living you have vampires
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who were who are half breeds yeah half bloods and you have this whole uh illuminati vampire so
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There's like organization there's culture it's a civilization.
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Yeah it's a separate civilization, but with zombies usually in 99% of cases you can't have this.
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The Walking Dead tried to develop zombies more from what I've seen that in the
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latest seasons they made them more intelligent in a way, more self-sustainable.
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They were starting to
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you know to behave more like humans in a way and i get the idea but i never
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had time more time to you know to go through the next seasons i think i ended five or six
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It's something that i was kind of thinking 28 years later might they do it a
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little bit they introduce like these alpha males,
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different slightly different types of zombies but but i would be really interested
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in this new sequel that's coming in january bone temple if they if they really
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show like organization and communities and civilization within the zombies because
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a major theme of this last movie was like,
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who was the monster? Are the humans the monsters or are the zombies the monsters?
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Because the humans were the ones being slightly more savage, I guess.
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Yeah, but...
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But again, that's a twist that we've kind of seen before. You know?
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Especially in the Last of Us games.
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Yeah. Maybe. Can you tell us the overall story of the comics that you read?
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Besides, you know, so there's the plague, there's the infection.
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Ah!
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The superheroes are zombies.
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Okay, so long story short, we start with Magneto, who creates a plague to,
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you know, to defeat humans or whatever, so mutants can rule.
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Everybody becomes zombie, they infect others, then the whole population becomes zombies.
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Hank Pym, yes, Hank Pym is the Ant-Man here.
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He tries to create a cure, but he can't do this. He never succeeds in it.
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Then when everybody on Earth is eaten or
they can eat more, they go into space,
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Silver Surfer comes, they eat Silver Surfer, they eat Galactus.
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Then they eat different aliens, different species. They even eat Ego.
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And you're telling me this is not awesome. No. All right, go on, go on.
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When they have eaten everyone, they go to Wakanda, where Black Panther has been
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infected, but it took them about 50 years or something like that, a few decades.
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So then everybody has been infected.
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Then we found out that Forge,
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one of the mutants, created the portal and that portal magically transported
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five infected superheroes into five different erves so they were spider-man
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wolverine hulk was there iron man conveniently
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The most popular super sure.
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Yeah and there was someone else but i forgot about them but initially the first
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Spider-Man is the most interesting one and he goes there, he infects people and by accident,
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he kills five out of six members
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and Sandman who was scared, he finds Spider-Man and he fills him up with sand
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and explodes him but by accident it was the real Spider-Man not the zombie Spider-Man
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And that was very weird.
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But imagine that scene, imagine that with Tom Holland.
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Okay, the best comic book ever. Yeah. Okay, we need this.
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Just rude. Okay, go on, go on.
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Yeah, sorry, Tom. Maybe Brand New Day will be awesome. Yeah. And then they return.
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And if I remember correctly, they try to eat the watcher.
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The sentry was infected also. Sentry fights watcher.
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and watcher does something to sentry to trap everything that happened in a loop
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but only on two earths only two earths are infected which is i can't comprehend
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it i don't understand it and i don't care to be honest
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Go on go on go on go on what else.
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Why should i go on it's just that it's everything that i remember because i
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to be honest i was just reading it reading it not focusing on reading because
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i don't like this type of zombie stories of
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All the comics you read for these videos is this is this the most depressed
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you've ever been like you're just like oh my god oh my god oh.
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My god
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No, but I've had, I don't know, some, maybe I was bored, maybe I was not focused enough. Oh my God.
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It's just, I just wanted to get over with it.
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These are the good ones.
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No, guys, I just blinked twice and that means he forced me to do this video.
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You're the one coming to me, hey, where's the video? When would you do it our video? Yeah.
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Yeah it's our rolling joke that that vin forced me to do this but yeah
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I did not make it well.
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Now that i compare it to what if what if did it better than the comic books really
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You think so you know this has happened before with the mc like honestly the
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mc sometimes will take like big awesome ideas that the comics fumbled with and
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then the the mc will sometimes land the plane do it better you know yeah.
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Especially with what if that it's just
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my opinion but i think that what if had more interesting
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episodes than many people had opinion
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about like many people thought that what if is just
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three seasons right three seasons that yeah yeah
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yeah that it was unnecessary but i think that some stories had potential were
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amazing of course there were some unnecessary filler episodes yeah but overall
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it wasn't that bad and marvel zombies episode proved it right now because it was in season
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One pretty good yeah yeah.
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Yeah and
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I i think part of the issue with what if the show is that it's different from
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what if the comic and a lot of people were expecting more like the comic and
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so they reject the show because it's different and i i.
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Think you know i
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Have criticisms of the show but it does have some good ideas and some good episodes.
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i think season three season two and three like really
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like you put it on you're like yeah whatever what
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if and then you watch it and you're like oh oh wow this is actually cool this
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is actually good there's some real good surprises and some real original ideas
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in there some standout stuff but it's it's different from the way the comics
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treat what for sure and i'm at.
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Least half of the episodes were very
good.
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Yeah.
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In all three seasons.
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Yeah, for sure. Honestly, for sure. It's hard because each one is like a standalone
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story, so it's hard for you to remember it.
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It's almost overwhelming how many different stories there are,
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and you consume it so quickly and you just kind of forget about them.
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I would really like to see N Secret Wars some tie-in to these animated multiverse adventures.
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I would like to see the marvel zombies in secret wars in live action i'd like
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to see some of the what if characters and storylines come back and secret wars
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in live action what are your thoughts on that.
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Uh i think that i also want to see some of those but i only want to see those
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that will not interfere with the over story match
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so for example not I really wanted to see Strange but Strange was
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he became the whole separate new universe or so he revived his earth but he
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died instead so it's not possible but maybe I really hope for Kahori to appear
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and also there were some leaks that she will appear I
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Don't I think you have to If you create a character like that,
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she's going to come back. Right?
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Yeah. Especially now with, I think that in the end, because it's the theory, whatever,
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that in secret wars, in the end we'll have, there will be a battle world where
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only the most important individuals will be in.
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So it makes sense for Kahori to be there because she's one of the most powerful
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beings in the multiverse.
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Along with Gaia from secret invasion, right?
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Yeah, but we don't talk about her. I love Emilia Clarke, but no.
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I think now we're getting to the most interesting wrinkle about Doomsday and
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Secret Wars, which is how do we land the plane?
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Because the multiverse saga has introduced so many story threads,
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like individual story threads, and has not tied many of them together.
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We have like 20 ongoing storylines, and we're looking at these movies to tie everything together.
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And I honestly don't know how interested the Rousseau's are in doing that.
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I don't even know if they've been keeping up with all this stuff.
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I don't know how much focus they're going to spend on wrapping up the other
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storylines versus just doing some one storyline with Doom.
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It would be a miracle,
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I think, if they can do it all together.
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Yeah, but when you think about it, it was similar to with Infinity War.
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Because first we've heard that there will be three or four separate teams in Infinity War.
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And we all thought, how to make it? It's not possible to make sense.
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It's not possible to connect them in a way to make this even watchable.
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That people will start, they won't focus on it.
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and it worked it really worked it was magic but yeah it's my favorite mcu yeah especially
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Infinity war specifically just magic just yeah.
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Yeah i think
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I think that phase three of marvel was just operating on some untouchable level
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and i don't know if they're i don't think they're there right now and i don't
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know if they can do it again you know yeah.
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But when you think about it that you will have also separate teams
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in doomsday uh and it
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will be two and a half hour movie let's say
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and then you'll have secret wars then you'll have to spend less time with most
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important characters in doomsday so they can shine in secret wars a lot on the
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characters like for example young avengers okay okay
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I see what you're saying yeah yeah and the way that.
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Yeah i just want to say that for example fantastic four there will be in my
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opinion in the middle of it so they will they will not be the ones that will
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have not as many time as the others but they're the
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Ones they're the ones who don't matter right.
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No they're the ones that matter but they won't be the main focus of the of the
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story and they won't be in the background so they will be like the connection
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between the two in my opinion it's like maybe they'll separate or whatever yeah
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So i i think that's a that's a great point and so i would like to see the marvel
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zombies from this show i'd like to see that continue and i'm excited to see
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things like marvel zombie scarlet witch you know that just that poster that image looks amazing,
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Blade, I'm excited to see him Why is he Moon Knight? I don't know But whatever I'm gonna take that.
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That we'll have new characters Yeah First Blade appearance Unfortunately not Mahershala Yeah,
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They couldn't even get Mahershala for this Like, come on Dude.
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Was like Come on Come on, why? They
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Fumbled Blade so much.
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But at
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Least Blade and versus marvel zombies is a great pitch that's a great idea right
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i'm excited for shang chi i'm excited for ms.
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Marvel yeah this is
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Gonna be like a shang chi too.
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Well as it is so much
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They've we just needed to have a shang chi trilogy by now what are we doing right.
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Oh yeah shang chi one a shang chi episode in what if season three and now this this is our trilogy
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Yeah right they really i know it was hard with the strike and it was hard with
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covet but they really needed to like figure out their priorities i think and
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it's been it's been a difficult decade.
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But look back at then we've had doctor
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strange in the multiverse of madness which was
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a great movie and it was made in covet the
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same goes for the eternals and i'm not
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gonna talk about black widow because i don't care about black widow no tour
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for tour for never was never made but
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there were some projects that were good enough
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to you know that you you didn't have to say it was made in covid so people would
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still appreciate it because covid didn't matter back then uh when it comes to
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wanda vision falcon and the winter soldier lucky they were all made in covid so
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That's true that's true yeah,
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So I'm hoping for the best because I also want to mention, I think Marvel Animation
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has been really good. I think X-Men 97 was awesome.
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Your friend in the neighborhood Spider-Man.
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That was really good, man. And so I'm expecting this Marvel Zombies hopefully is good.
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I have a lot of faith. I have more faith in Marvel Animation than probably any
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other branches of Marvel right now.
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Yeah. Also, this will be the TVMA.
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Yeah, that's true. Do you think it needed it?
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I think so because they wanted to go a lot
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in the core area the core thematic in the a lot of blood a lot of violence especially
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with the spider-man just using his web to uh split to sever 10 or 11 heads at
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once of zombies so that was cool
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Do you think tvma was it used well in daredevil.
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Yeah I think that the scene with Kingpin and
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The guy with the jaw right.
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Yeah it added a lot of a lot of violence to Kingpin's character but I was the
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language also did the Netflix version was it TVMA
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I think it was PG-13 it was like towing the line it was almost far but I don't think it was quite.
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TVMA I think that the TV shows,
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TVMA really fits TV shows like Daredevil or Punisher because you know from comic
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books that those characters tend to be violent and there's a lot of violence
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in their backstory, especially Punisher.
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Punisher was for sure TVMA, there's no doubt in that, but Daredevil...
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with born again i think it worked for me because it was the return to this uh to this universe after
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eight years 2017 and you wanted to show us more of uh the broken daredevil the daredevil who was
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depressed who didn't want to you know to live anymore but had to you know to
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just he just tried to be strong as much as he can it really reminded me of the
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latest comic book series Daredevil called Day in Hell
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where it's just Daredevil going
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in his rage he's old and it's not much that he can do but I think that TVMA
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really helped Born Again to be to really feel that old Daredevil again because you have
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Especially especially coming in yeah especially coming into the
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mcu i think it was important to show the fans that you
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know this is not disney's daredevil even though
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it is on disney plus yeah but to really say
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no no we were serious about this
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you know and i hopefully hopefully that's the same for marvel zombies too like
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i hope it has a sense of seriousness even with like comedy and fun and stuff
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but and i hope it balances it well where it's not just saying you know shit
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but it actually feels like the kind of gravity of the situation.
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Yeah when you compare dma tvma in
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born again and marvel zombies for example you use tvma for a reason because
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when you plan a tv show you don't think about the rating the rating matters
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in the end when you shoot the scenes or whatever you decide whether to remove
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some harsh language to not use enough blood Bad, bad.
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when you use tvma it matters because people expect something they expect that you made a project
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that will fit this rating that you will see
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enough of blood that there's that it is there for a
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reason yeah just to simplify it yeah we've
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born again you had to have all those
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brutal fight scenes to show the rage of their devil to
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show how he is yeah depressed how he
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needs justice and whatever and marvel zombies you
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have to show how brutal is this world right now with zombies and everyone how
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even the the most the friendliest heroes like spider-man who always so good
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in other people yeah always so hope have to do brutal things in order to survive yeah
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And that's what i'm really looking forward to seeing and secret wars for example
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would you like to see them come to this universe and live action the the mcu
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characters come to this universe.
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Okay let's say that i would really
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appreciate their appearance but
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only if they were used in a
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way that infinity ultron used
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them in the finale of season one of what
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if okay that he just teleported them in
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the world or whatever or just to show their world when for example america chavez
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or someone else are traveling through multiverse i just like to look for something
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or whatever they just like say there's one component in the whole multiverse
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and it's on this earth and it's the marvel zombies for example
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Do you remember i think it's like in secret wars 8 i think it's namor and black
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Panther go to a zombie universe.
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The other one or the new one?
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The new one.
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I have not read the new one yet. I've only read the 19, yeah.
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i still didn't get to to read the avengers from hickman
did not have time okay
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Anyway so i'm just saying there's comic canon for marvel zombies that universe
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colliding with secret wars and i would like to see this in live action yeah.
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This i don't have a problem with that but if you want to just put them to be
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a part of the main story no no like the part of the major major more major
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I like i i don't want the zombie infection coming into 616 that could cause
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you know a second a second blip that would actually be great but i don't think
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they'll do it you know imagine,
00:27:46.046 --> 00:27:51.346
yeah destroying destroying everything i would clap but they don't have the guts
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for that so i want to mention some bonus recommendations there's marvel zombies
00:27:55.966 --> 00:27:57.326
versus the army of Darkness,
00:27:57.546 --> 00:28:01.086
a crossover from 2007, issues one through five.
00:28:01.326 --> 00:28:04.346
There's Night of the Living Deadpool and Return of the Living Deadpool,
00:28:04.666 --> 00:28:06.686
which is a Deadpool Marvel Zombies crossover.
00:28:07.146 --> 00:28:13.206
And then just September 17th, 2025, they just started Marvel Zombies Red Band,
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which is an R-rated comic book with Marvel Zombies.
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It's brand new. There's only going to be four issues, a new miniseries.
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That's going to go September, October, November, December.
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So four months. Marvel Zombie time.
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Okay. It's Zumbin time.
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No.
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It was right there. I had to say it. Dr.
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Michael Morbius, what time is it? It's Morbius time.
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We need Morbius and Marvel Zombie. And then season two, Morbius. I need it. I need it.
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Is there even a way to make season two?
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In Marvel Zombies 3, which you didn't read, they have a new version of the Midnight
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Suns, and Morbius is the leader.
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Yeah. Yeah. yeah yeah and it's not that bad it's okay that i think that's also
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the one that introduces head pool who was in deadpool versus.
00:29:04.146 --> 00:29:09.506
Wolverine oh yeah the the head with the spinning car yeah crazy crazy
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It's like it's like a zombie deadpool and you like chop off the head or something and then he's.
00:29:14.166 --> 00:29:16.946
Becomes headpool okay that makes sense okay okay
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Yeah okay anyway i think i think that's enough so thanks everyone for watching
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