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about him being a top fifty guy right now. He's probably going to be a Day three guy for a third round guy for me out of Missouri is what it is. 00:05:22 Speaker 5: Uh. 00:05:23 Speaker 4: The list continues. Josh Josephs pass rusher, Tennessee. I got a third on him, key Ron Crawford the opposite Auburn, got third round grade on him. And Mike Mike kel Kamara Indiana. I got a fourth round grade on him. Cayden Proctor and only gave a one second. It wasn't against none of these dudes. 00:05:38 Speaker 3: It was gave a one sack against that list of dudes. 00:05:41 Speaker 4: He ain't give none of these dudes. It was some cat at Florida State that ain't getting drafted this year. But I'm like, damn, I know Caden Proctor three sixty and he don't move all that fast. I get it. But he got long arms, he got hand technique. He's strong as hell, strong hands, gripstring. I think he got great you know great? 00:05:59 Speaker 6: Uh? 00:05:59 Speaker 4: He knows where the with his feet. Offensive line feet is different from good feet. Some other guys got great feet. He doesn't have phenomenal feet, but he knows where to put his feet in old line lane. He doesn't cross his feet, he doesn't stumble over him. So if he got pretty decent bounds to be three sixty six five or so sixty six three sixty Kyle, why don't people talk about Cayden Proctor enough with these other guys when he's played the best of the best competition. There are some people that have Caleb Lomu, the left tackle from Utah, and he beat up on the cal Poly Wyoming b YU kids U c LA kids and he got whooped by mellow height when Texas tent got here. 00:06:34 Speaker 2: Let me see if you and I agree here please, where do you have him in your tackles? 00:06:38 Speaker 4: Boy, I'm feeling if you're stacked, it's finna sound like I'm just spearing, hell, Caleb, I got a. 00:06:42 Speaker 3: High third on on Proctor. 00:06:44 Speaker 4: No, no, no, pardon me, I got a high I got a high second on Product good high second on. 00:06:48 Speaker 2: Product, and then where would he rank against Fino, Freeling, Malinoa. 00:06:52 Speaker 4: So Proctor is my fifteenth guy on my on my on my big stack, Malanoa first, Fano second. That's the end of my first round grades. Then my second round grade Cayden Proctor one. 00:07:02 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, if you would like to look at my board right here, you. 00:07:04 Speaker 4: A bad boy. 00:07:05 Speaker 3: Malanoa is number one. 00:07:06 Speaker 2: He's a first round grade bad fan, was a first round grade by first second round grade at offensive tackle. 00:07:12 Speaker 4: He's brought Cayden Proctor. Then I got Freeling, then I got Mexi Hanachur and my first third round. 00:07:17 Speaker 2: I like Ianachor as well. I have him as my first third round guy. I have Freelan and Lomu in the second. So I have Lomu above Ianachur out of Arizona State Freeling out of Georgia, as we mentioned a minute ago. But when it comes to Proctor, I agree with you completely. Huge frame, impressive footwork. Did you know he was a track. 00:07:33 Speaker 3: Star in high school. 00:07:34 Speaker 4: That's ridiculous. 00:07:35 Speaker 2: I did he ran track, and I mean he did track anfield. He did a little bit of both, but he ran as well. So you can talk about the footwork and what he's able to do with his feet and how he's able. 00:07:44 Speaker 3: To move laterally. 00:07:45 Speaker 2: All of that is great and phenomenal, and that's why he tested so well. I do have knocks against some of his technique, but as we've talked about on the show before, you can teach technique in the right situation. I think there are other times that he struggles where some of those other bigger bodied offensive tackles don't struggle, like Malino and like Fano, and that's why. 00:08:04 Speaker 3: I put him below those two guys. 00:08:06 Speaker 2: But when you look at his high pad level at times not my favorite thing. When you look at the way he gets his hands out wide, he doesn't stay inside with his hands as much as I would like him to, even though he has strong hands and he can kind of overcome that a little bit because of his strength. I think he is a top level pass protector in this class. And I think overall he's not Tyler Booker. He's not what you've seen maybe out of some of those others they music last year top fifty. Yes, they did top fifteen guys that have come out of Alabama lately, but he's still going to be a starter. 00:08:39 Speaker 3: In this league, and I think it wouldn't take very long to get him there. 00:08:41 Speaker 4: I just thought it was interesting, And look, I don't think that Proctor's going to be like another top eleven. Got to push guys down the board a little bit. I just want to continue pushing the conversation. I saw this one tweet about it, right. It was about pass rush win rate for offensive tackles or something like that, and they were like, oh, Cayden Proctor is down here at the bottom while the guys man if Cayden Proctor played, And it sounds like I'm poo pooing on low move, but it's just what it is, like like. 00:09:06 Speaker 3: I have him in the second two, but just a little bit further down than Proctor. 00:09:09 Speaker 4: And look, this could be against all these guys, right, I'm looking at who you played what competition, like, you know, because the further down I get, there is a Caleb Proctor from Southeast Louisiana, right, and he whooped the hell out of all those other miscellaneous kids. But he played LSU. He had some fantastic tapers LSU and LA Tech. So I said, okay, even though you go to Southeast Louisiana, you had really good tape versus top tier guys, and I can respect that. And that was one of the arguments that I have for Cayden Proctor there that no matter how weird this film looks, he ain't getting killed out there. And look, run games a whole another situation because he is a big, strong move you got. But in the passing game versus bendy bursty dudes, the best bendy bursty dudes in the

league, eight of them, I think he handled himself. 00:09:53 Speaker 2: Just find there one sack against those whatever he wasn't And it wasn't even those. 00:09:58 Speaker 4: It some Florida State guy that I don't know. 00:10:00 Speaker 3: We'll be talking about him next year. Maybe transferred somewhere else, maybe not. 00:10:04 Speaker 4: I don't know where the hell the set came from, but I think I think versus competition matters a lot and something something else that kind of comes up. These people talk about cash is how right, Like, hey, cash is how I got some up and down games. And our boy from our left tackle from our Gooseby from Texas old Vosh when he ran in Old Goosby beat the hell out of Gooseby, And I'm just like, man, But like, what about the other great competition. That cash is how it went up against and looked burst in fantastic great against him, phenomenal. Right, So I guess my my ultimate point here fighting against the miscellaneous tweet that I saw on Twitter driving in here or whatever is. 00:10:38 Speaker 2: I don't mind you were parked in the parking garage. 00:10:41 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't driving text No, But I don't mind you losing reps versus good dudes. I, however, don't want to see you beat up on dudes as good as me all day. You know what I'm saying. I want to see you versus better dudes. 00:10:54 Speaker 2: You got to look alike. You got to look like a man amongst boys. Whenever you're at a lower level, Yeah you go. You gotta be walking on water. As I think Brian once said about those guys, whenever you play in front of the bouncy houses in the end zone. 00:11:08 Speaker 4: While the whole Reuben Bain stuff is weird, and while the whole uh oh my votch r VL Reese is less bend but dog, I just watched r VL rees whoop duos on film. I don't care about his pro day or he can't bend on some bag forget y'all. I'm sorry, it's. 00:11:23 Speaker 3: Fair, all right? You ready to take some calls? 00:11:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk to him, all right, Anthony, and Miami is our first caller today. 00:11:29 Speaker 3: What up, Anthony, cow what's up? 00:11:32 Speaker 7: My boy? 00:11:33 Speaker 3: How are you? 00:11:34 Speaker 5: How you been? You gotta? You got a guy that I've been a man from Afar. You know, I don't have social media or anything, but I've been to mind this guy. Go on YouTube and I check him out. I try to make some comments here in there. Mister Voughts, welcome aboard. I'm a cowboy for life. So man, they'll tell you that, and I appreciate you and your commentary. So I'm gonna say my little thing real quick because I'm in my watch room and my phone may cut off. I'll say this being down in Miami. I want all my teams to do well. I know we have four that were predicted in the first two rounds possibly, and I'm gonna make a bold statement right here on just wreck on just players, Ruben Bang, Jered my Love and Monster with Demain are the best players in this draft. That's Anthony's bold statement. Those three guys are the best players. If the Cowboys landed, won and we can land a running back. I don't want anybody to think that we got a running back. You know, it takes two running backs in this league. And this guy is all purpose, all purpose on world. So I would love to get him. If Bang wasn't there at twelve or Monster wasn't there, I would love to get loved. And I'm telling you, I'm going on record, those three guys are the best cross backs in this draft. Appreciate you, guys, Man, Appreciate. 00:12:50 Speaker 4: Your big dog. 00:12:52 Speaker 2: Appreciate you Anthony and Miami. It's a weird way to say. Caleb Downs, he didn't say. 00:12:58 Speaker 4: I think he said what he said. I think he's what do you say, Kyle? I looking at my board. Those guys are up there, No. 00:13:03 Speaker 3: They are too. 00:13:04 Speaker 2: I was looking at mine because I don't, like I've said on the show before, I don't stack until we get like the week before draft, and I don't stack position by position. But I do stack by position and I grade from there. Jeremiah Love is, outside of Caleb Downs, the highest graded player on my board at the moment, and I gave him a high first round grade. 00:13:25 Speaker 3: I think he's electric. I think he's going to be an impact player. 00:13:28 Speaker 2: Immediately there's a significant drop off between him and my RB two, so maybe that plays a little bit of a factor. But I think when you stack him, he's not as highly graded as I had Ashton gent last year, but he's close. 00:13:38 Speaker 3: And that's saying something because I had Ashton genty very high there. 00:13:42 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily see the same thing with Mansour, even though I have a first round grade on him and I think he's a great player. 00:13:50 Speaker 3: He's my number one corner. 00:13:51 Speaker 2: I don't see him in the same conversation as Caleb Downs and Jeremiah Love at the moment. He's maybe a couple. 00:13:57 Speaker 3: Slots below that. 00:13:58 Speaker 8: For me. 00:13:59 Speaker 2: I think Bank could be in that conversation. I can put Bane up there. Uh he's an early first round grade on my board. But yeah, I think three great names and three names that at the end of the day could be cowboys. 00:14:12 Speaker 4: Love is three for me, Bane is four, Delaye is six. So we all in that in that range or whatnot. And boy, Kyle will tell you some boy you know, man vos come on these little programs. Man Vos come on these little programs, And I said, hey, man, you know what y'all ought to do what's that. Y'all need to prepare y'allself for the idea that the offensive player could be drafted. And I just want y'all to be ready. I ain't saying who should be drafted. Ye, I would love to go defense first, but I just want And I think I've over talked it three shows or so. Kyle I was like, hey, man, be ready for off and be ready for off and they'd be like, boy, watch you on crack boy. Why in the hell would he say? Boy? On the damn head coach talked to our own Timmy

Yards there at the university. What did he said, man, y'all boys better get rid of First of all, he said it he says like he says that, just like he said, like I said, but uh, he said, first of all, I think coach lied and said I think we did enough in the offseason to feel good about this. That's a lie. That's that's cap coach. Y'all need to line back, you know, if you need to linebacker, you know it. Shamar James is just gonna gonna step up this year, all right, So I think they're gonna But what I do think is true is that them boys gonna walk in the draft day, and they're gonna be like, hey, if Love is there, we ain't just gonna pass Love just because I think I don't know how they got their wide receiver stacked. Everybody gonna have those top three wide receivers stacked differently. I think Love is more likely to be a dude that's hard to pass on, that's hard to pass on. 00:15:44 Speaker 3: I agree. 00:15:44 Speaker 4: I can see them pass on on tape or lemon tys. I can see that. But in this world where you get totally wiped out on defense, I can see the Cowboys, the Dallas Football Cowboys go, hey, man, I don't know why mal Noah dropped this. It could be because some teams ahead of us think he's a guard and they may value something different. But ay, y'all, Malo is here. Hey y'all, we have such a grade on Jeremiah Love. And they got the Boston College highlights playing over their head and so like, hey man, this dude Love. I know we wiped on defense. I know we just signed Javonte, but boy, that boy that that one two is a hell of a one to two. 00:16:21 Speaker 3: Uh huh. 00:16:22 Speaker 4: The head coach agrees, will watch y'all. I ain't trying to make this about me. This is about me, This is about all of us together as a family. The head coach agrees will watch, and he came out and said it yesterday with our very long time of yards that y'all need to be prepared. He said, y'all need to be prepared for the idea that if a top tier, elite offensive player is there, we're not going to pass on him because we've done the work, is what he says. 00:16:41 Speaker 3: And that could be a twelve or twenty. It could be either one. 00:16:44 Speaker 4: It could be a twelve or twenty. I would hate if it's twenty. Yeah, unless Jeremia love Fall the twenty, I think that's different. 00:16:50 Speaker 3: That's different. 00:16:50 Speaker 4: That's different. You don't know if all the twenty, that's different. I think you should be flat out defense at twenty. But twelve where you're at the mercy of the board, because that's just the you know, we just didn't lose enough games. Don't be mad. If the Cowboys draft a running back on offensive line, it probably won't be offensive line. They just did the thing with Terrece but terres ain't started me from drafting Mando. Yeah, uh, Tyler, Guyden got a couple of years on his contract. Tyler Smith is a left tackle candidate for you. You may want one of those guys to come play left guard the Cowboys, to do anything and make

it make sense. I just want y'all to be prepared for it. And I said that for three shows this past month, and y'all hated me. Y'all call me goofy and a clown and silly. And look at what your head coach said, he agrees. 00:17:30 Speaker 3: With a So there you go. 00:17:31 Speaker 2: I love how you had a bone to pick with two people and you've already done it in the first sex. 00:17:34 Speaker 4: It's been like seven, been like seven. But I'm gonna say that. 00:17:37 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Nick and Austin. Nick, what's going on? You're on a craft show? 00:17:42 Speaker 3: What's up? 00:17:43 Speaker 9: Hey? 00:17:43 Speaker 10: How are y'all doing great? 00:17:45 Speaker 4: How are you? 00:17:45 Speaker 5: What's up? So? 00:17:47 Speaker 10: Kyle, I've been watching you since you started with the Cowboys, and you've come a long way, and I'm truly proud of that, appreciate and I'm sure and you should be too. I remember when you first aready they I can't remember, and it was I believe it's in the Draft show and you said that a soul, so got drafted and I have a horrible memory, so you might know what I'm sorting time. Yeah, okay, So my question to you is is there somebody that you would run for if we got them? And don't don't answer it? And at Botch, you are a great addition to the break. I really like what you bring. I like the little and I like the fact that they let you be you. 00:18:35 Speaker 11: I love that. 00:18:36 Speaker 10: And I was, you know, I was, uh go through Google the other day. I come across one of your shows with the Cowboys. I watched that. 00:18:43 Speaker 5: It was really good apiation. 00:18:45 Speaker 10: So, Botch, I know you're a standard pick guy for the majority. Now, if we get wiped out and you know, on defense and Jeremiah loves not there and Malonoah's not there, would you consider trading back because I know you'll start to out about this before Kyle, you know what I'm talking about. It If you trade back to like sixteen to the Jets, Okay, trade with them, would you? And of course you'll pick up something right, You'll pick up probably a third because it's not a far drop, but totally be worth it because it will help our defense. We'll get somebody in the third or offense maybe in the third, who knows, And then you could pick up possibly because who knows, because Dylan deanim it keeps moving up, right, But if he's there, what do you think about that? And then you add another pick and then I'll hang up and listen. 00:19:37 Speaker 3: Thank you, guys, appreciate you, appreciate you. 00:19:39 Speaker 9: Bla. 00:19:40 Speaker 2: Well, let's stick to that one just because for now, and then I'll get into my running question here in a minute. 00:19:45 Speaker 4: Gotcha? Uhm is seventeen on my boy? Yeah, you know what I'm saying, So, unlike some of my my peers and friends, twelve has a bit high for me. But if you trade back, and boy hate trade questions, but if you if you trade back and you get some picks and the Jets decide to blame iss she was sixteen, then I wouldn't mind taking theenem in at seventeen and or sixteen, because he's seventeen on my board, and then you get the pick again at twenty take a pass, rush to take a corner, and I'll be fine with that short problem. 00:20:12 Speaker 2: As far as I see, the Jets don't have a third round pick, so and that's where the value he was right on that. 00:20:21 Speaker 3: That's where the value is. It's about two hundred point difference on the trade chard And when you look at third. 00:20:26 Speaker 2: Round picks, really anything from about seventy eight and above could get you there. They don't have one of those picks, and they actually don't have one in the third at all, so it may have to be a little bit more than that. They do have forty four, which was a pick that Dallas sent to the Jets initially, They have your second round pick, so you might be able to return with that and get that back and then maybe send a fourth or one of those fifths or whatever it was to try and offset it a little bit. 00:20:54 Speaker 3: I'd have to do the math a little bit more whenever I can sit down. 00:20:58 Speaker 2: And actually do the math, but it would take a little bit more maneuvering than just a third round pick, unless they somehow come up with one prior to trying to make that trade. 00:21:07 Speaker 3: If I'm Dallas, it would have to take. 00:21:10 Speaker 2: And here's my thought at twelve right now, you at twelve are probably going to draft sure, because I think you're going to get a dude. 00:21:22 Speaker 3: If you get a dude. 00:21:22 Speaker 2: There and you're cartwheeling, let's say it's Sunny Styles. Let's say it's Caleb Downs, Let's say it's I think Love is probably going to be there. But you look at all of the guys in front that you could target, and you could like let's say Bailey or Bane, all of those guys delaying you're going to take that player and you're gonna run. If that's the case, if you get to the point where you're looking at your board and you're saying, Dylan Thieneman is my top guy on my board here, I would think about trading down because I'm with you there. If you take him there, I'm not upset. I put him on draft cover for a reason, like I think he's a great player, and I think there's a possibility he's here in Dallas. But the value you could pick up by just adding another name in the third round, if you can find a dance partner, which is a big if, I think I would try and see what happens there. So somebody may want to come up and get Jeremiah Love. Let's say he is on the board and somebody wants to come up and get one. Maybe somebody wants to come up and get a Freeling or a sidiqu who's a high level tight end. Maybe somebody is really trying to revamp their tight end room and they want to get ahead of maybe some of these other teams that could possibly use a tight end that. 00:22:31 Speaker 3: Are behind Dallas. I just don't see a ton of possibility there. 00:22:37 Speaker 2: I think

you're going to get a first round graded player and you're going to take him at twenty I mean at twelve, and then you'll pick again at twenty and take whoever's left on the other side of things. Now, who would be the guy that I would run with? And he's referring to back in twenty twenty, first year that I hosted the show, we were virtual at the time because there was COVID all the way through. 00:22:59 Speaker 3: Thanks man. 00:23:00 Speaker 2: The one of the last shows of the year is like one month I was right around this time. I was asked a Twitter on the twenty question about Ceedee Lamb following falling to seventeen and with the Cowboys pick him, and I said, there's no way. 00:23:15 Speaker 3: That would ever happen. One, I don't think he's falling. 00:23:18 Speaker 2: Two, I don't think he's going to be selected, if he even is the pick, because they. 00:23:22 Speaker 3: Don't need a wide receiver. At that point, they had Amari Cooper, they had guys. 00:23:25 Speaker 2: They man, I wasn't prepared. I wasn't prepared to have an offensive player take it in that draft. 00:23:33 Speaker 11: You know. 00:23:34 Speaker 2: It was him and Calebon Chase on fo. Yeah, and that's ultimately the conversation. And he ends up falling. 00:23:41 Speaker 3: He gets picked. 00:23:42 Speaker 2: He ends up being a great and I loved Ceedee Lamb. I thought he was a top eight player in that draft. So I said, if that happens, I'll run from my apartment to the Star and back where you live. 00:23:53 Speaker 3: I live in little Elm. It was thirteen point seven miles. 00:23:58 Speaker 4: Did you do it? 00:23:58 Speaker 8: I did. 00:23:59 Speaker 2: I did do it because immediately when he got drafted on draft night, I got a notification on my phone. Somebody tweeted and said, you better get your running shoes on. Sure enough, I ended up running the thirteen point seven miles and going the entire way down and back in the middle of May. I had to take like a month to kind of train up to it for a little bit, but I did it. 00:24:17 Speaker 4: Is there video it is? Yeah? 00:24:19 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, WFA did a story on it. It was a big thing. 00:24:22 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'll run down the hole, get to the back of water, back off, and run no miles thirteen, down and back thirteen. 00:24:33 Speaker 2: I feel like I can't make the same bet though. I feel like I'd have to do something different. Maybe I'll run, I'll run stairs or something. 00:24:42 Speaker 4: How about you just do the show and don't do nothing to be happy we show damn pe I know, but. 00:24:47 Speaker 3: That it happened, So maybe I have to make a bet. Mine would be Caleb Downs. 00:24:52 Speaker 4: You know, y'all y'all, y'all, y'all are different, y'all bit on stuff. 00:24:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like why are you saying, y'allit me by y'all you got Yeah, who's who's you guys? 00:25:01 Speaker 3: Like media personnel? What are we talking about here? 00:25:03 Speaker 4: There's no there's some not media guys like that.

But but y'all, y'all bet on Like I've been listening to the radio right like one O five three to the Cowboys get We Tied Together, and they be doing show bit yeah, and they be doing like show best and stuff. But like, yeah, you gotta drink a bottle of hot sauce or something happened. I'm like, man, why would y'all do that? Because we don't. We don't do stuff like that. 00:25:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll run every stare in the Ford Center and look we run three times three times or actually, wait, Caleb Downs is number two, I'll do it for I'll do every stare in the Ford Center, both top and bottom deck, twice all the way through. If Caleb Downs gets it, that's not a half marathon. But let's be honest, I'm not running a half. 00:25:47 Speaker 4: I'll just celebrate the pick. The most I do is take five y'all to go get something, to eat something, and I'll just I'll just pay for that. 00:25:52 Speaker 3: Sounds nice? 00:25:53 Speaker 4: Yeah? 00:25:54 Speaker 3: Can I be on that list? 00:25:55 Speaker 8: No? 00:25:55 Speaker 3: Okay, that's right, what you can come to? 00:25:56 Speaker 12: Yeah? 00:25:57 Speaker 4: Yeah, whatever, Yeah, come on, all right, five people. 00:25:59 Speaker 2: We're gonna take our firs break. When we come back, we'll continue taking your calls. 00:26:02 Speaker 3: It's been fun so far. 00:26:03 Speaker 2: And Vatch Lombardi, Kyle Yeoman's here on the Draft show more right after this. 00:26:09 Speaker 9: Life is a workout, and Smoothie King is here to help you power through. Whether you're maxing out overhead presses, push them through chest flies, or being the hero your golden retriever needs to carry them over that scary bridge, Smoothie King has the fuel to help you go all out, build muscle and boost your recovery with forty five grams of protein, zero grams of added sugar and delicious customizable ingredients and the Gladiator Smoothie available in chocolate, strawberry, and vanilla only at Smoothie Kit. 00:26:36 Speaker 8: Hey Cowboy fans, Keith Davis here forming Cowboys Safety. Davis, you know what separates hamptons from the wrist. Making the right move at the right moment. With blockchain dot com, that's never been easy. The Cowboys became America's team by striking bold when it mattered most. Now it's your turn. Evint like your icons with blockchain dot Com. Visit Blockchain slash Cowboys today to get started. 00:27:03 Speaker 4: And learn more. 00:27:04 Speaker 8: That's blockchain dot Com slash Cowboys. 00:27:07 Speaker 7: Star Sports Tours is the only official fan travel partner of the Dallas Cowboys, offering exclusive game weekend travel packages with pregame, sideline access and photo ops with current players, cheerleaders and Cowboy legends. Want to stay at the team hotel, attend the best tail game party in Texas, tour the Star and talk x'es and o's with me Everson Walls. With Star Sports Tours, you can visit Cowboys travel dot Com to book your travel package today. 00:27:38 Speaker 13: Need a last minute dish

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at all. And it was something that like, it's a quote that was used not long ago because it was Bobby Wood Junior in the World Baseball Classic. He was playing incredible at shortstop and he's covering all sorts of ground and whatever. Somebody said, eighty percent of the earth is covered in land and the other twenty percent is covered by Bobby Wood Junior. 00:30:58 Speaker 3: So does that makes sense? 00:31:00 Speaker 2: He was trying to like maneuver the quote a little bit and just didn't it ain't it ain't go my boy. But that's why I chuckled because that was the first thing that popped in the head the player. Yeah, and it depends on whether the fit is sure there. 00:31:12 Speaker 3: If he's are you gonna play him outside, You're gonna play him inside? 00:31:15 Speaker 4: I think so that's the problem. I think he's a much better athlete than he is technician. 00:31:20 Speaker 3: I agree. 00:31:20 Speaker 4: So I think that's better for like outside field corner work, you know what I mean. If you're gonna be in the. 00:31:26 Speaker 3: In the nickel, I'm the sideline to work with a little bit. 00:31:29 Speaker 4: Oh sure, boundary boundary definitely. 00:31:30 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:31:31 Speaker 4: But if you're gonna be like one of these guys as you're gonna deal with a with a crafty nickel or something like that, you know, he might leave you kind of you know, kind of spinning a little bit. And that's one of his issue, Like when I when I wrote not super technical like in man coverage, he will kind of turn his back to the receiver a little bit or whatever, like not trying to play the ball, but just like receiver break inside, I'm turning my back the other way and you losing track of the guy. I think he's better when it's like Quasi in front of him and he could just kind of see a little bit. So he works the end break and rouse a little better, and he just rakes on routes really well. Uh but I got him in the fourth because of his technical stuff. I don't think he's going to do a whole bunch of his own. But hey, man, I think I think he's a he's a he's a solid plant and run guy, loose hips. 00:32:10 Speaker 3: Let me find where I put him. Oh yeah, I put him in the fourth as well. 00:32:13 Speaker 2: But see, look if he's there at one fourteen or one twelve, yeah I would, I would consider it. 00:32:19 Speaker 4: This is the problem with this, with this, with this corner bass class, right, he ain't a bad player, No, Dangelo Pond, Statius Dixon, Stokes, Everett Rivers more from from Florida. It's just a lot of names. It's just a lot of guys that are just yeah, a job. Yeah, which is I'm just bumping guys down the list right now. He's a good player, and I think, I mean, you're right. If he's at one twelve, hey, let's go book. I think you can. You can, you can definitely use him. I don't know what his smarts are like compared to what Chris Parker is looking for, but just as an athlete, as somebody that can just like man cover and just go as long as in front

of him, off man or whatever. I think he's good. 00:32:55 Speaker 3: I think he's a smart cat. I just don't think he has the greatest media quotes. 00:32:58 Speaker 4: He dropped a several folk but it's just this. 00:33:00 Speaker 3: But I've got just to your point. 00:33:03 Speaker 2: I've got Everett from Georgia ahead of I've got Julian Neil from Arkansas. 00:33:06 Speaker 3: These are guys that I. 00:33:07 Speaker 2: Think could maybe fall to one twelve, but still not necessarily a foregone conclusion. 00:33:13 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised that Everett goes Day two. I agree he's a good player. 00:33:17 Speaker 2: D'Angelo Pond's above him, Chandler Rivers from Duke above him, Will Lee the third from Texas A, and m is right there with him. 00:33:25 Speaker 3: We've heard a lot about Malik Mohammad. 00:33:29 Speaker 2: And he's been a name that we've mentioned just because he was in the draft process, he was at the Senior Bowl, things of the sort. I think he's right around that. Just conglomertive names and it's picked whatever you think fits best. And I don't necessarily think I'm looking at Malik Muhammad and saying he fits best here with Dallas. 00:33:44 Speaker 4: It depends on scheme. 00:33:45 Speaker 11: Man. 00:33:45 Speaker 4: Some of these guys are better covered. Like I think Will Lee is a phenomenal Cover three type, you know what I'm saying. To let him be long and range and do that. But if he has to man and run inside on somebody like, that'll be kind of weird for him, you know what I mean. So it depends, like these teams are gonna like rank them all differently or whatever. But Malik Muhammad here, I'm not sure. But if you're a Dolphins fan of something watching the show, he might he might fitch off. 00:34:08 Speaker 3: They like their Texas guys out there. 00:34:10 Speaker 12: Text. 00:34:10 Speaker 3: What was the other name he mentioned? Was it Anthony Hill Junior? 00:34:14 Speaker 4: He thought about Anthony? Was it Anthony Hill? 00:34:16 Speaker 3: A lot of public I saw Joe Hoyt from Dallas Morning News put out a video yesterday. 00:34:23 Speaker 2: I don't know if you wrote an article on it or not, but he was saying, watch out for Anthony Hill Junior. I still don't know where he necessarily fits, but we've talked about him a couple times on the show. 00:34:31 Speaker 3: Great player, incredible athlete. 00:34:34 Speaker 2: Still some technical stuff, kind of like what we just talked about with Muhammad that he has to clean up. 00:34:38 Speaker 3: But does he fit in Dallas. It depends on the scheme, depends on what they're looking for. I don't necessarily think it does. 00:34:45 Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be great as like a like a Will linebacker, somebody that comes up and pass rush every now and then. The Cowboys may be looking for more of a Mike du like a Mike Field general type guy. 00:34:55 Speaker 3: Doesn't mean they can't take a Will. 00:34:57 Speaker 4: Don't mean he can't, you know what I'm saying. I don't think he'll is great in coverage, but he has like the athleticism in the link to kind of like grow into it or whatever. And Plus I don't think the Cowboys got to pick to take them, you know what I'm saying, Like we got twelve and twenty. I'm not taking him at twenty. And I think ninety two is too late. 00:35:12 Speaker 3: To get us White. Too late. 00:35:13 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I don't think the unless the Cowboys like make a trade and get a second round pick or something like an early third or something, I don't think you're in the range to get him. On my board, he's like the fifty third guy. 00:35:23 Speaker 2: For me, So I have him in the second Yeah, but he's probably gonna end up maybe mid forties. 00:35:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, mid forties for me, somewhere around there. I have a lot of second round grades. It's kind of been my head. 00:35:36 Speaker 4: I got I got forty one second round. 00:35:38 Speaker 2: That's kind of been my heavy, my heavy spot this year. How many first round grades are you having? Well, okay, so I have a little. 00:35:44 Speaker 4: And if you add fifteen, if you add the quarterback as thirteen. 00:35:47 Speaker 3: I just don't watch quarterbacks, Okay, Mendoza, Mendoza, Okay, got it. Uh, let's move on to our next collar. Leicester in Minnesota. Leicester, what's up? You're on the Draft show? 00:35:56 Speaker 12: So let's good morning, God, Good morning Abosh. I just want to say, man, I like I like your the way you talk about and break down the players. I like the little videos you have online. I'm not really a big online YouTube guy or any of that, but I do, uh go in and watch your little videos on certain players that we pick up and et cetera and so forth. So I wanted to say that first, and then the last caller kind of took what I wanted to say about the cornerbacks. Unless we got the top one or two corner that's you know, on in the draft. 00:36:38 Speaker 4: I don't. 00:36:38 Speaker 12: I would not draft a corner in the first round. I just would not, because you can find good corners a little bit later. 00:36:45 Speaker 14: I E. 00:36:45 Speaker 12: Jordan Lewis, I E Owoozy A, I E. Brown, and and and and others. You can find them. And Will mccless does an excellent job. I think the Cowboys, at least right now today it looks like we need to draft the linebacker. Man. I mean because in the three four you you have what four linebackers out there, so I believe at least need four reserves or maybe more than that. So I think on the on on our board right now, we have only about four or five linebackers period. So that's that's what I'm looking at as far as our draft picks. Hey, man, if I don't know what Parker is looking for exactly, so I can't really make a comment, but I just know what we have right now. We need to do a linebacker. And I would get a pass rusher and a linebacker if it was me for what we have to date, you know, via a trade, you know, before the draft or after the draft. One more thing, I wanted to

say, you guys, most most of the guys on that talk about draft, you guys, most of you, not all Vosh, you go a little deeper, but you talk a lot about the first and second round picks. I mean, I look, I done study this, man. If you look at the UFL and all the colleges, including about black colleges, you have over three thousand choices. Man, So we can find someone, you know, a little bit down the line, somewhere, you know. But that's all I got to say. Do you guys do a good job. 00:38:28 Speaker 3: Go Cowboys, appreciate Appreciate you as always. 00:38:31 Speaker 5: Kyle. 00:38:31 Speaker 4: Let's just play a game real, Okay, let's play. You can pull your board up if you like. I'm just I'm just gonna run down this list. This this is what I think. I think he made a fascinating point about cornerback. Let's just say we feel like Kobe Durant is gonna be playing somewhere. He's gonna be starting somewhere. Cowboys, right, Cowboys, Corny Kobe Durant. Let's say Duran Bland's foot is good to go. Let's say Rebbel makes the year two lead that the Cowboys project him to he's good, healthy, everything's good good. 00:38:57 Speaker 2: We're talking best case, best case scenario about scenario and even the. 00:39:01 Speaker 4: Idea that Jalen Thompson gonna come down and play Nickel sometimes. Here's my question, right, I'm gonna go down to corners. How many corners bump those dudes down the depth chart? 00:39:11 Speaker 2: If they're all healthy, if everything is good to go okay, I can make a case that Monsieur de Layne could make Rebel sit down absolutely. 00:39:18 Speaker 4: Colton Hood, yes, Ce say yes, I think got to sit down. 00:39:26 Speaker 3: That's fair. But I have him a little bit above Hood. 00:39:29 Speaker 4: I got you or from Clemson Now, even though I like Terol a lot, I think he sits down. Abney from Arizona State. 00:39:35 Speaker 2: Now, honestly the only one you didn't miss that I think is not making those guys sit down if they are best best case scenario. Maybe maybe Terrell, if you're if we're talking about him versus Kobe Durant, I think I would probably take Terrell over Durant. 00:39:52 Speaker 3: But Jemal McCoy is the other name. 00:39:54 Speaker 2: Because I have him up there, and if he's let's say, if we're talking best cases, we hope for Dallas next to the best case scenario for him to So if that's the case, the top five corners on my list. 00:40:04 Speaker 3: Are Delanne, McCoy's, c, safe Hood, and Terrell I would agree. 00:40:08 Speaker 2: And if that's the case, anybody outside of that I don't feel the same way. 00:40:12 Speaker 4: The only names I feel like are delayed. And let's just say McCoy falls in the draft team sucker drafts and you get him at twenty, the need's good to go. I think McCoy steps in and somebody got to sit down. So we don't have a long list of dudes that can bump the current Cowboys starters down the depth. 00:40:26 Speaker 3: Chart if they're fully healthy. Sure, but we also know that that's not technically realistic. 00:40:31 Speaker 4: For sure. According to the Cowboys, they may not think of corner as big of an emergency as they may view linebacker and pass rush. So to the call's point, if it ain't months or delayne I could see the Cowboys not going cornerback in the first round or at twelve or fair or twenty. And I mean, maybe you can make argument once you get the ninety two and there's some good names at ninety two or one, fourteen or whatever. But if it ain't delaying in them. I'm probably not rushing to get a corner at twentieth. 00:40:57 Speaker 2: Over c say, Hood and Terrell are all second round, and I think they're all solid players. 00:41:03 Speaker 3: I think they can do a number of different things. 00:41:05 Speaker 2: All good Delaine and McCoy's first round talents, but you got to talk about the health. 00:41:11 Speaker 3: I know we can take it out of. 00:41:12 Speaker 2: The fun equation for a little bit, but I'm looking at corner as still a massive need. But I tend to agree there because you need bodies at linebacker, and you need dogs at edge rusher for sure, and you might have to take twelve and twenty and just use it at edge and linebacker and be okay with that. 00:41:28 Speaker 4: I just wonder what the Cowboys think their current standing is with the with the Herd guys, you know what I mean. 00:41:33 Speaker 3: I think they know a lot more than we do about the status of those guys. 00:41:37 Speaker 4: I think Rove is gonna be fine. He finished last year, He's going to be another offse's removed from it. I think he'll be good to go. 00:41:42 Speaker 2: Were we were judging Emmy submissions, because that's all going on right now in our TV world for a little bit, and there was one from a different NFC East opponent. I don't want to give it away specifically because I feel like it might be a conflict of interest, But there it was their draft coverage and it was being submitted and they were The term they used was my man crush of the NFL Draft in twenty twenty five with Savona Revel and it was from an NFC East opponent. Well they it wasn't just the draft show that loved Savone Revel. And I still think he could be that moving forward if he just needed a little bit of time. 00:42:16 Speaker 3: Now he has it. He has this time, and so I think there will be a step. It may not be a massive step, but there will be a think. 00:42:21 Speaker 4: I think you can expect your two jumps from a book or Azraku and Row. But but I wonder if the Cowboys look at Bland and go, hey man, blam, gonna be healthy. I don't think we need a corner as bad as people think that we need corner, and the guy that they get is going to be more of a Day three depth or future type guy as opposed to somebody they want to come in a step in and play. 00:42:42 Speaker 2: It could be I could see one twelve just feels like a sweet spot. Maybe even ninety two, but one twelve seems like a sweet spot of corner the guys we mentioned earlier, Mohammed from Texas,

Rivers from Duke will Lee, the third from Texas, and in like all those guys right there, could maybe be in the conversation if day when Everett falls, I would run that card in that was I love that. All right, one more caller and then we're going to take a break, and then we're going to answer uh Twitter questions because we have a bunch of. 00:43:07 Speaker 3: Those as well. Let's go to Chris in Modesto, California. What up Chris? 00:43:11 Speaker 8: Chris? 00:43:12 Speaker 14: Oh so, how y'all doing great? 00:43:14 Speaker 3: How are you good? 00:43:17 Speaker 14: I had a question about Zion Young. I had him at four in the fourth round. What do you see him right now as after that performance at the combine? 00:43:34 Speaker 3: Zion? 00:43:35 Speaker 14: Yeah, Zion Young? Because I really want in the draft. I want us to get styles cash as how Zion Young ponds and uh D'Angelo pons at cornerback and Davis and uh yeah yeah some somehow, you know, I I kind of call that trade we've made with Osa, but I'm wondering it looks like we've made a replacement with turping for turping. Could we possibly get a second round pick. 00:44:17 Speaker 5: For him and get back in the second if we yeah, we say it'd be a little bit in that. 00:44:23 Speaker 14: Maybe you know, put that in combination if we dropped back. 00:44:29 Speaker 2: I appreciate the call, and yeah, we'll answer all those questions as best we can. 00:44:34 Speaker 3: Uh time. 00:44:36 Speaker 2: So he said combine for Zion Young. I believe he's talking about pro date because he didn't run at the combine, but he was timed on Friday at Missouri UH forty times in the range of four six nine to four to seven three. I'm looking for the official. I'm seeing one on Twitter that says it that way. I mean, that's that's really good for ed rusher of his size. 00:44:58 Speaker 4: I'm looking good size, strong run games. 00:45:03 Speaker 2: Here's the official four seven five, which is in the seventieth percentile. His broad jump was one seventeen sixty first percentile. His split wasn't as impressive because you when you watch his tape, he's got some burst, but he was a one seven two, which is thirteenth percent tile out of edge rushers. Good wingspan, arm length is a little bit conversational. 00:45:26 Speaker 3: But not as big as like what we said with Howl and some of those other guys. 00:45:30 Speaker 4: This class of d ends and not necessarily edges that stand up, but this class of d ends after Mesidor. But you kind of got to figure out, you know, are the guys that are kind of big as hell. They got traits, they good versus the run, but they're not clean pass rushers just yet. You you kind of have to figure out what you want to do with those guys. Zion Young is definitely one of those who me can line up at at five or at three if you want to rush them, strong as hell, long arms. You know, he's athletic for his size. Correct, But there's a lot of do that kind of like fit that archetype, you know what I'm saying. We talk about Fulk Parker, Lucas from USC like all those guys, like bigger dudes that aren't really clean pass rushers yet. And if we just talk about cowboy Land, like where do you fit those guys? Like you know, when the Cowboys line up in Nickel or something, and you got your two edges on the outside and you got Kenny and Quinnon, where do you have room for these types? Of guys. I got a third round grade on them, but that's just where I put the you know, the guys that don't give me much pass rush right now that could develop into it, but they strongest had any good versus run, that's not where they He's. 00:46:32 Speaker 3: My last third round grade. So yeah, I'm right there with So we're right there, and there's. 00:46:37 Speaker 2: Guys over him in this sadrusher class that I would consider far more like Romelo Height. I would have a conversation a little bit more so there, even though he's a little smaller. Yeah, like lt Overton from Alabama, Joshua Joseph's from Tennessee. These are the guys that are kind of right around him. I think Zion Young is a top one hundred player with with him at ninety two, I would be in conversation. And they need bigger ed drushers that are going to be stopping the run and that are gonna set the edge. 00:47:07 Speaker 4: Sure need that. 00:47:08 Speaker 2: They don't have that really on this team right now, and especially if they're going to play a lot of three four I think he does fit in that outside linebacker role, maybe that four eye roll if he really wanted to, because he's two hundred and sixty two pounds. 00:47:19 Speaker 3: He's a big dude. 00:47:20 Speaker 4: And that's the big conversation about the four eye guys or the guys that are going to be four eye guys. If you play seventy percent Nickel, how much of those dudes gonna be on the field, you know what I'm saying, Like not a lot. Like when we're in our Nickel set, nobody taking Kenny and quinnin off the field and you're outside. Guys right now are Gary and Donovan? So how much are they going to play? And I think if you want somebody that's going to be more of a pass rusher, stand up guy like Gary and Donovan, you will be on the other side of the of the board for me. So that'll be the heights that Mason Thomas is the house, the Lawrences, Llewellyns, and Perkinses, you know what I mean. So I have a weird relationship with the big body dudes, and I think they're more for the people watching the show right now. I would recommend Zion Young Anthony Lucas falk Parker for like the Dolphins or the Vikings or somebody else. But when it comes to Cowboy Land with the lack of second round picks where most of these dudes probably gonna be at. I just don't see the fifth of us. 00:48:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the Turbine conversation, kind of a gadget guy, not necessarily your your second round pick worth Now they got a third for Osa. So that's the most recent trade that you've seen from a cowboy. I would put Osa far in a way above what the value.

00:48:32 Speaker 3: Would be for Turping. 00:48:33 Speaker 4: You you'd be lucky to get a six. 00:48:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of where I was thinking. Maybe a fifth if you got lucky, but sixth is probably don't. 00:48:40 Speaker 4: Want to be mean, you know, I think I think they're gonna they're not gonna grade Turpin as a return They're gonna grade them as a receiver wide receiver. 00:48:46 Speaker 3: You'll be lucky if you get a six. 00:48:47 Speaker 2: Respectfully, Well, if they great him as a returner, you're not getting anything, which that's the case. 00:48:51 Speaker 4: Him and the kick ain't gonna be light lighting the market up. But yeah, if we get a second back for Turping, we're doing flips up here. I'll run the team mis you go to sake it for damn turvy deal answer and go get some. 00:49:04 Speaker 3: Solutions all right, Let's take our second break. 00:49:07 Speaker 2: When we come back, we continue to answer your questions alongside Vach Lombardi. 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Visit blockchain dot com slash Cowboys today to get started and learn more. That's blockchain dot Com slash Cowboys. 00:51:15 Speaker 4: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show. 00:51:22 Speaker 2: Refresh your wardrobe with Cowboys Spring essentials. Find light layers, teas, hats, and more at a pro shop near you or online at shop dot Dallascowboys dot Com. A Fanatics Experience also where you can pick up your copy of the Dallas Cowboys Star Magazine Draft Guide. Again, we're still waiting on the online link. It will be available soon. I will let you know both on Twitter and then on the Draft Show whenever that ultimately does become available. Let's get to our final collar. I lied in the last segment. We actually had one more Eric in North Carolina. You're on the Draft Show? 00:51:56 Speaker 9: What up? 00:51:57 Speaker 8: Eric? 00:51:58 Speaker 6: Hey, fellas, tell y'all doing today? 00:52:00 Speaker 3: Killing Greg? 00:52:01 Speaker 6: Love your show. I've been thinking about trade scenarios since its seeming like more and more the premium defensive help is going to be gone by the twelfth pick. And always remember what Dane Brugler talks about, which is quarterbacks always go high, no matter what we think of them, you know, more or less. 00:52:27 Speaker 5: And I checked and. 00:52:28 Speaker 6: Only one time in the last ten years has only one quarterback going in the top twelve picks. So what do y'all think are the chances that someone might trade up for Ty Simpson quarterback Alabama? 00:52:45 Speaker 3: You know, I love that idea. 00:52:48 Speaker 2: I think every team should try and trade above the Cowboys to go get Ty Simpson, so good them, I think that'd be fantastic. 00:52:55 Speaker 3: I think they should go trade above. 00:52:56 Speaker 2: I think he should get picked above the Cowboys and then maybe if not maybe. 00:53:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, twelve sounds like a sweet spot for ty Simpson. 00:53:03 Speaker 4: People think I'm being arrogant when I say team suck at drafting quarterback. Tax is one of the things that like, your team's in a lot of trouble, Like just I almosta spend this first round or on Kenny pickt just because he a quarterback? Yeah, or ty Simpsons. You know what I'm saying, Man, look y'all do it. This is why I kind of fussed with Cowboy fans, especially like Dak heading Cowboy fans, they'd be like, oh, yeah, man, I don't want to pay Dak this money. We can move on from him and draft a quarterback in two years. This will be the year that you would have had to go into it to go and do it. Just to manage you have to spend twelve overall on Tye on ty Simpson, Well, you probably get worse than twelve. We probably get five. But yeah, nah, I'm not. I don't recommend anybody drafting a quarterback high unless. 00:53:44 Speaker 2: They're a fan of it's a bad class quarterback wise, there's value here and they're gonna be guys that are really good in this class. We just it's hard to find a prospect without questions. Garrett not Smy a great quarterback, got questions whether it's size or taking care

of the football. Same thing with Cade club Nick out of Clemson, Sager Robertson. I like his build, but man, he couldn't hold onto the football at a couple different times as well. Lots of quarterbacks that could be significant, but they all have some level of meh to them. 00:54:18 Speaker 3: And that's kind of what this quarterback class looks like. 00:54:20 Speaker 4: I haven't watched any of them, but I'm gonna watch twelve of them next week, Okay, just to say that this is just have them, just to have them on the board. 00:54:26 Speaker 2: That's honestly, it's probably about all you need. Just well, I think I can give you twelve here. 00:54:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get them. 00:54:33 Speaker 2: You'll get them all and then it'll be pretty quick get you All right, let's let's get into some Twitter on the twenty We did ask a ton twitter Twitter on the eleven fifty five, but we are going to answer a couple of these real quick. All right, would you rather from Josh would you rather a stick and pick twelve? Is delaying twenty? 00:54:52 Speaker 3: Is cashus? How delaying out of LSU? CASHUS? How out of Texas? A and M Yeah B is trade back? 00:54:58 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay comes up for Erfano in exchange, you get fifteenth in their third round pick. 00:55:03 Speaker 3: You get CJ. 00:55:04 Speaker 2: Allen with the fifteenth pick, and you get Mesidor at your twentieth pick, and then you get an extra selection in the third and then the Cleveland trade scenario that I know you absolutely love, but you end up with Sonny Styles at six and you get Chris Johnson from San Diego State at thirty nine. 00:55:20 Speaker 3: What are your three best options there? 00:55:23 Speaker 4: I don't hate the Styles in Johnson combination, but you hate. 00:55:27 Speaker 3: The Cleveland trade conversation. 00:55:29 Speaker 4: I do think that Delayne and Howell is your best combination, though. 00:55:34 Speaker 3: Stick and pick some take those guys. 00:55:36 Speaker 2: Okay, everyone is freaking out about possibly going offense at twelve. This comes from Bain. Has everyone considered that they may go offense at twelve and twenty? Has anybody thought of that as a possibility. 00:55:50 Speaker 4: There's some people to have me incredibly mistaken. They just think I'm just you know, messing around, just rooting. They think I'm just rooting for offense. For the saked rule for offense. I think the only time offense should be in a conversation is at twelve, because you're kind of at the mercy of the top thirteen first round picks or whatever. I think. Once you get to twenty, there's plenty names at twenty that you can go on defense, whether it's corner, safety, edge or D tackle. If y'all feel like you know, you know, Christian Parker wants his pick of D tackle or whatever. I think twenty is perfect for that, and I wouldn't go offense in that way. So it's either offense at twelve or offense. 00:56:26 Speaker 2: Not Yeah, I I would be flabbergasted if they pick offense in both spots. 00:56:33 Speaker 4: The only way it makes sense, well, I guess it wouldn't. But if you get wiped out on defense Malano is there at twelve, you take Malonoah team suck at drafting, Jeremiah Love Fields, you take Love at twenty. That's the only way. 00:56:47 Speaker 3: Great about your offense. Your run game is gonna. 00:56:49 Speaker 4: Be electric, phenomenal, my boy, phenomenal, double team GP all. You won't in Bracket CD if you like I'm just gonna. 00:56:56 Speaker 2: That's team fifty Burger right there. We've had Team forty Burger in the past. That's Team fifty Burger. Let's see, there's a lot of former or a lot of quarter or trade conversations. We can't talk about her that are under under contract elsewhere. 00:57:15 Speaker 4: Can't talk about that. I mean if the if the conversation is, if there's an imaginary player, is that player worth twelve, twenty and something else? You know what I'm saying. And I think you know we went through the I can say Max, right, yeah, okay, we there was this Max and debacle, the news that. 00:57:32 Speaker 3: That was actual news and Hendrix. 00:57:35 Speaker 4: What some what's some real stuff that was going on? And if you would trade two once for them maybe not here. If you would trade two one for Max, then you would trade two once for an imaginary perfect player, you know what I'm saying. So for that situation, we can't talk about. 00:57:49 Speaker 3: Sure, if they want us man twelve and twenty, bring him home. 00:57:53 Speaker 4: They had ninety two as well. I'll sit right here on the draft show or not none till Saturday. Boy, that boy, good for Mila, mak boy. I'm happy for Miami. 00:58:03 Speaker 3: That would be really boring coverage. 00:58:05 Speaker 4: It would be because all we do is talk about this ninety nine on the man for three days. 00:58:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, just sit here and just watch his feeling. 00:58:14 Speaker 4: Minnesota took thing in me anyway. 00:58:18 Speaker 9: I like it. 00:58:20 Speaker 2: Sticking with sticking with defense, tone wants to know, uh t J. Parker Is he a better pass rusher than Keldric. 00:58:27 Speaker 3: Falk is a run defender? 00:58:30 Speaker 4: No, I don't think so. 00:58:32 Speaker 3: Better pass rusher than a run defender. There. 00:58:34 Speaker 4: I think Keldrick is the better run defender. However, Parker's film last year he was a much better pass rush than he was this year, so you can probably say that. But I don't know, man, Clemson dudes be going through some weird stuff out. I don't know what. Like from the since the beginning of time, Clemson d line would be going is always a class full of them. The whole line come out, and then they get to the league and they look weird. I don't know what's going on with them. But I just got Falk as a higher player. I think Fulk has the higher floor as a run dude, and you can actually see the developmental trace as a pass rusher. Parker kind of shows stuff and went away, which I think is worse. So I'll take Falk

over Parker. 00:59:14 Speaker 8: Man. 00:59:15 Speaker 3: This one's tough for me because I had both guys touching tags. 00:59:19 Speaker 2: They're right next to They're the same dude, but they do different things, like they're very different players. 00:59:25 Speaker 3: I think I would lean toward DJ Parker just a little bit. And he still had a. 00:59:31 Speaker 2: Decent productive season. It wasn't like he blew up like you talked about in twenty twenty four. He was one of the best players in the country in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four, still had five sacks, still had nine and a half tackles for the loss who played just twelve games in twenty twenty five, So he still was productive. But I see football IQ, I see a good read and react. I see somebody with a high motor, pursuitability, pass rush ability. I think he's active around the ball. I think he's quick off the line of scrimmage. All of these things are there. 00:59:59 Speaker 4: He just run out of the middle people exactly, and he keep doing it. 01:00:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, and when in lineman, when they get hands on him, he doesn't necessarily have that that past rush plan that you've talked about. 01:00:09 Speaker 4: Before. I also think Folk played played better guys like he played. 01:00:13 Speaker 3: He didn't, You know, I agree? 01:00:15 Speaker 4: You know the Texas guys. He played against Monroe freely and I played against Proctor. 01:00:19 Speaker 2: So yeah, CJ wants to know this will be our last one before we get out of here. What is the or what prospect this year? 01:00:25 Speaker 3: Was your hardest evaluation? 01:00:28 Speaker 4: My toughest evaluation. What happens all the time with me? Man, it be the guys that I have to wrestle with what you did versus your opponents at this little bit of school that you just played against. But the trace are there. So what was my man? Ted Hurst from Georgia State, Yeah, wide, sheiver tough evaluation for me. Max Llewellyn from Iowa was a bit of a tough evaluation. If y'all look at my board on Twitter. Sometimes I have like notes that is just like one word because I know who the player is. It's just like I just had one word of. But some other players I got a lot of stuff about. But no, So for example, I think he has like phenomenal height, length, athletic traits. I think he's he's better in zone depending on where he's playing, but he's better at man in other spots. I think he's a better outside zone corner, but a better man nickel guy. And I think sometimes when you fall into archetype, sometimes guys are either something or there's something else. Like I think he's a perfect example of he can do a little bit of both at something, but he's bad at both in other places. So you have to watch a bunch of films to like figure these guys out. Like for example, if you go to let me just find another example for you, Harrold Perkins, Right, that's Harold Perkins. His evaluation for me is all over the places because he's strong sometimes

other times he's getting moved around by big dudes. Sometimes I wouldn't put him in covering. 01:01:54 Speaker 2: I don't think he's taking plays off. He's just getting beat. He's just getting beat. 01:01:57 Speaker 4: Sometimes he's the fastest dude on the field for for different reasons, you know what I'm saying. Sometimes I would love him as a full time edge. Sometimes hell no, as a run defender, Like put him at at like at Mike or something. But if they're running up the middle, don't put him in Mike. I think he's the best run defender as an edge guy somehow, but you know you're you're gonna run into run into two players. I do believe archetypes exist. You know, you're a good versus run, but you bad versus past. You're a really good pass rush, you get pushed around the run game. Archetypes do exist, but some of these guys do fall in weird particular situations where man Kayleb Banks is really good at that unless he's going to get somebody with really good hands, and he's not good at that anymore. Yeah, and that forces you to watch the film and really figure these guys. 01:02:38 Speaker 2: My I think my toughest evaluation is always on the back end of the wide receiver class. You talked about ted Hurst every time, but it's all the small guys that have speed and just talk about this, and we talked about it yesterday, I think, And that's one of the toughest things to evaluate because and teams miss on him all the time and they over evaluate him all the time. I love Zachariah Branch. I think he could be a player at the next level. But everybody's sitting out here trying to find the next Tyreek Kill. 01:03:02 Speaker 3: But there's only one. 01:03:03 Speaker 2: Tyreek Kill and there's there's a couple guys that have been kind of close but not really. At the same time, it's a tough evaluation because there's there's so much. There is ninety five percent of the history that says, don't draft these guys, sure, don't worry about it, forget. 01:03:19 Speaker 3: About it, and move on. Just because they're fast doesn't mean anything. 01:03:21 Speaker 2: But then you watch the tape and you watch the production, you see what they do on a consistent basis. 01:03:25 Speaker 3: You talk about beating some of the best corners in football. 01:03:28 Speaker 2: Zacharia Branch did that so all the way through in college football this past year. 01:03:32 Speaker 4: Chris Brassel's phenomenal. 01:03:33 Speaker 3: Oh man, Yeah, he's he played with Tennessee. Yeah, you just gotta He's not necessarily a small guy though. 01:03:39 Speaker 4: Kyle ie Us. What was going to do this, man, Yeah, it was worse uff man, it was gonna cancel the show. 01:03:43 Speaker 9: Man. 01:03:43 Speaker 3: I was like, Man, you thought about it? 01:03:44 Speaker 4: No, I talk all day. 01:03:45 Speaker 3: Man, I don't think we thought about canceling the show. 01:03:47 Speaker 4: But it's fair. 01:03:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate you guys as always tuning in here on the Draft Show today. We will be back on Tuesday if everyone is here, which I don't know if that's the case yet or not, but if all five of us are here, we're gonna do our mock draft because we are now within four weeks of the NFL Draft in Pittsburgh, so we got to do our roundtable mock draft where we pick a team and we end up drafting all the way through the first round. We'll do that on Tuesday if everybody is here. If not, we'll wait till the next time that everybody is here. But appreciate you guys as always. For Chris Beam in the back, for Vach Lombardi, I'm Kyle Yoman saying so long from the draft show. 01:04:20 Speaker 3: We will see you on Tuesday. 01:04:21 Speaker 4: Hey Mondre. 01:04:22 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.