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I hope you enjoyed this extended episode of Real Clear Podcast, hosted by psychologist Lucas Klein, with special guest Wilford Riley.
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And welcome back, everybody.
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I am joined again by the crowd favorite Wilfred Riley, the great man from Kentucky State University, political science professor and author of excellent books, lies.
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My liberal teacher told me being the most recent.
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I'm linking to that below.
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I recommend you click it, buy it, share it.
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And I wanted to have Dr.
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Riley on to talk about a number of things, namely, Where he thinks the Trump administration has been successful and where he thinks it hasn't been.
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What his view is on the American present and the immediate American future.
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And I'll start off by reading something from a real clear member.
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Dr.
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Mills writes, Trump's second term as a president has already proven to be even more polarizing and destabilizing than his first term, with his autocratic attack on constitutional rights, widespread dismantling of governmental agencies by subverting Congress, turning on his bordering neighbors and allies, stopping international aid, instituting global tariffs, threatening to annex Canada, Dr.
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Mills is Canadian, by the way, take Greenland, the Panama Canal, and the Gaza Strip through military force, if necessary, and generally turn a liberal democracy into a fascist state.
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Do you agree with the above statement? Dr.
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Reilly, why or why not? Well, not really.
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I mean, I think a lot of that stuff is obvious, almost funny puffery.
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So there are three levels here.
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First of all, um, I don't think that ultimate moral rules are real to some extent.
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I mean, I think that's a pretty standard view among social scientists who've looked at different societies over the centuries.
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So, I mean, I, I do think that a lot of people would admire a world leader who actually became a Julius Caesar sort of figure.
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Like, if Trump actually conquered Canada, took over Greenland, uh, made the Arab world into a series of U.
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vassal states where women had rights and oil was delivered here on an annual basis and, you know, all the rest of that, I'm not sure that would, uh, Stop me from voting for Trump.
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And I'm not sure people would be doing voting in that society, but I think the chances of that happening are literally 0 percent that that's kind of just New York trash talking.
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You know, uh, Trump did a lot of this before the, uh, the four nations hockey summit.
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Right.
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Where he wished the team good luck against our 51st state.
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Uh, Canada actually won that game, but I do think that a lot of people who haven't maybe competed in, uh.
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High school varsity or collegiate athletics or been in the military or listening to that and they're saying my my god, he's serious Uh, I don't I don't think that is that is entirely correct You know going on from that do I think that some of that stuff would be a good idea, you know In theory some of it would be interesting in practice.
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I mean, I assume the canadians would resist quite well You know, there's some speculation in political science that canada's a secret nuclear power.
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They have one of the world's better small militaries So I don't actually think we're going to go up there into the tundra and, uh, you know, fight them for a couple of years.
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That'd be very much like Russia and Ukraine, actually.
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But, um, in terms of a broader take on the Trump administration, I think we've seen two things.
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There, the first, and I actually have a take on Trump that's very different from a lot of people.
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I kind of agree with Ben Shapiro, the conservative commentator on this, where he'll openly say, like, I like quote, unquote, teleprompter Trump.
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Like, I like Trump when he has a speech written by someone when they're obviously people from AEI or Claremont behind the scenes that are helping him out when Vance is in the room and when he's this big, smart guy, but he's also got a political team with him.
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And I think a lot
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of people kind of disagree with that.
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And they say, you know, I like Trump to be freestyle and shouting and screaming at people and making deals.
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I actually don't like that at all.
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Yeah, no, I think, I think a lot of intelligent people would agree with the, the three of us, you know, it's the witch, uh, sorry, I had Jeffrey Tucker on recently, the economist from the Epoch Times, and when I had mentioned that, he had, uh, uh, the reaction that, well, he and I wouldn't like that because we're the cote bourgeois, as he said, and, uh, but that's not my reason, I think that, um, my reason is probably what yours is leading to be, which is it's an unnecessary destabilization for the populace.
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Yeah, and also I just think, I think the results are objectively better when you look at what, so I mean when, for me the best part of the Trump administration so far has been Trump just coming in with the 200 executive orders, where, I mean, if you want to talk about DEI, like he technically repealed, uh, Lyndon Baines Johnson's order that mandated affirmative action.
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Which was 5.
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And the way that EO 465 worked as someone who trained as a lawyer at a pretty good institution is that if you want to do business with the United States federal government, which as you know, every like fortune down through 4, 000 does.
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You have to practice essentially proportional representation and hiring you have to treat it.
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Yeah, well, the proportional representation to it in general is considered at least a first line basis for a lawsuit that any of the major racial groups in the population in your business doesn't match the percentage of that group in the overall national population.
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So most companies, especially following the EO we're talking about, hire roughly proportionally.
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Affirmative action comes out of that because group performance on the major standardized board tests, IQ tests, so on, is so different.
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So, I mean, on the SAT in the most recent year that I've used for research, I'm sure this is Probably not the most recent year, but I mean, you had Asians at 1223 East Asians were probably 80 points above that you had white city, you know, very solid 1114, you had blacks.
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I don't know.
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I think blacks were next.
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Actually, it was 9 60.
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Something Hispanics natives were at 9 12.
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I mean, so your islanders beat blacks, but I mean, so you had all these groups performing at these very different levels.
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And the simple reality is that if you want, I mean, to be almost 4 percent Native American Indians, you'd have to give Native American Indians a 330 point boost or whatever that would be.
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Over Asian Americans, blacks would get a 150 point boost relative to white.
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So that's how affirmative action comes in.
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But Trump basically got rid of all that.
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I mean, he just said, you don't have to engage in these hiring practices to do business, the federal government.
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So that's, that was actually very elegant.
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And a lot of that was almost the Project 2025 stuff.
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Like, you could tell somebody wrote the EO.
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Like, there's the one where he, uh, says that every U.
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document that contains the phrase gender identity is going to be rewritten to contain the phrase sex.
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And this very TERF y definition that I think he got from Wolf, the women, the mainstream feminist organization.
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Like, so when Trump came in with his allies on board and all those ready, I think he did a really good job.
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Since then, I think we've been seeing a lot of nonsense.
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Like, last line, I don't really want to ramble about this, but on Twitter the other day, like, I was just on there sparring with people, and like, serious people like congressmen were proposing, and you can tell the big guy himself had probably thought of the idea, that Trump be placed on the 100 bill.
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You can still see this if you go on to Twitter or Facebook, like Yeah, like Congressman Ray Isser or whatever, it's a picture of like Trump staring sternly out of the hundred.
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And the slogans like what we need now in America, that's the kind of crap you don't want Trump getting sidelined in, you know, change the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of Trump or whatever, I mean like that, that sort of stuff we don't.
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And his statements, I mean, calling Justin Trudeau the governor of the 51st
state is funny, but it's really unnecessary and kind of odd for a head of state.
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Um, so it's There are, there are hard facts on the ground, like 1.
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1 trillion dollars has come in as new investments in the United States in roughly the first month and a half, which is significant and outpaces previous administrations by orders of magnitude as far as I understand.
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A lot of that coming from, um, external supplies, um, or external investments, AI investments, and so forth.
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Um, those are very important things, and I'm, I'm really concerned primarily about economics.
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Um, and I think this differentiates me from a lot of people who are left of center, as well as a lot of people who are, we might say hard right, where they're focusing on the 100 bills, and naming things, and, you know, owning libs, close quote, and so forth.
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I'm really concerned about the Present recession.
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We've been in one technically since July of last year.
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I don't know if you agree with that, but Tucker agrees with that.
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I, I do.
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And he's worried about a double recession.
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Um, I'm concerned about the average American, um, and their pocketbooks and their ability to maintain a standard of living.
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Um, what are your concerns in the near term, professor? Your hard line concerns, what you think matters most.
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Through the United States, I mean, I think that so that's an interesting question, you know, people are talking about serious issues like investment in the country.
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Other people are talking about these sort of dissident right issues, some of which are quite serious, like mass migration.
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Others are.
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What are we going to name the mountains? Trump actually did rename the mountains, by the way.
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He renamed Denali Mount McKinley.
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This became a two day wonder.
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Um, I think that most of the issues that I would be concerned about are long time kind of human flourishing issues, if I really had to think about this.
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So number one would probably be the debt.
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I mean, so all of these are going to be like of this kind.
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I mean, I think I've said some of these before, like the number one issue for the USA is the fact that we're 30 trillion dollars in debt or whatever it is.
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Like we treat this as though it's not a reality because the Chinese are 10 trillion dollars in debt to us and the Renminbi is pegged to the dollar, but all that means is that we can destroy each other.
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I mean, at some point you do have to pay back these, these massive investments of money.
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Um, you know, mass migration, I don't think inherently is a problem, but the combination of mass migration and climate change would probably be somewhere in the top 10.
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What, what is the U.
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national, so I guess you'd actually do three X's there in terms of an interaction term.
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So there's mass migration, climate change, and then our refusal to assimilate.
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Following woke.
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Going to look like in 100 years? I don't really think it would matter much of most people at my skin tone instead of yours.
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And we're both sitting here wearing sweaters and so on.
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But I mean, like, the question is, are those people going to have any kind of core American ideals given what we're currently teaching and so on? So the press of migration would be one of my concerns.
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The debt Um, baseline baseline things like nuclear weaponry in the background, the USA and the Russians never got rid of the bombs.
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You know, I read a horrible piece in one of the kind of defense intelligence quarterly type publications the other day.
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We're not maintaining them.
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So we actually have all these nuclear weapons sort of leaking and bunkers in Utah, you know, that we're going to have to deal with at some point.
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So my, my core issues would all be things of this kind, like the nuclear arsenal.
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Uh, the amount of money we owe to foreign enemies, migration.
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Uh, a fourth one I'll throw out there would be the birth rate.
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Like the Western white led countries aren't reproducing at all.
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Um, you know, I don't have kids myself.
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This is something I've got like a three year window to have like two kids.
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I mean, it's a transactional way to look at it, but I don't think I'm going to.
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But I mean, this is a common decision I find friends of mine, businesswomen and so on making at like 38.
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And that, that's really not ideal.
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But I mean, it's better than the alternative, which is just not, I mean, so like the upper middle class, Western American birth rates, like 1.
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2 is the replacement, right? Yeah, that's one of the reasons that I thought that maybe mass migration could actually be medicinal for the United States, because we're just not having kids.
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One second, I gotta close my window.
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I'm, uh, in the light, you watch, you know? There are Indian heritage where I don't do well in the light.
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I look like a fucking vampire.
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Yeah, I was, uh, thinking that, uh, if you want to get conspiratorial about it, maybe the borders have been porous and open because the powers that be know that we're not reproducing and we need new consumer units.
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But that's a little conspiratorial.
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You were saying regarding the same issue? I think there's an element of truth to that.
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But the question is like, where are the conspiracy cuts? Because the powers that be have also been telling us not to have kids.
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Like I remember throughout my entire life, people trying to scare me about sex, and I don't think that was entirely a coincidence.
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I mean, so there was this Baptist like me.
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No, but I mean, like, quite outside of the church.
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I mean, I guess my church would be Catholic or AME, thinking of the family African Methodist Episcopal, but that applies to black church.
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But I mean, like, the preacher's supposed to do that.
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Like, what are you kids doing after prom? That's their role in society.
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But no, like, mainstream institutions were, I remember the Western heterosexual AIDS crisis.
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Where people were talking about how, you know, this disease doesn't much care who you are, to quote Molly Ivins.
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And, you know, Ryan White was on television talking about how he received AIDS.
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Just, he was dealing with hemophilia, and he got one transfusion of blood.
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It was his first, and that's all it took.
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You know, I knew people in high school that were refusing to date for a period of like six months, or turning down, let's say, specific forms of sex with Catholic school girlfriends, because that's how it spreads.
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Man, you know, look at Magic Johnson.
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And this went on and on, uh, throughout, uh, much of a later life.
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I mean, the panic about teen pregnancy, that you can have it all stuff directed at business women.
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Like you don't want to ruin your life by having a kid too early, make partner at 40 and then have two kids.
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I mean, people used to have the shirts, you know, and I, I think gradually you realize, of course, that, I mean, peak human fertility, it's awkward to talk about is, you know, upper middle class males, but it's 23.
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So this, this narrative has been promoted our entire life and that's why people aren't having kids and as you see the effects of that in the Caucasian community, upper middle class black community across the native born population, that's when I think you started seeing a huge focus on mass migration.
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Like, well, we've got to do something.
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Well, we're kind of tired of some of these recalcitrant people that we have in the United States.
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Like somewhat brutal assimilation Uh a really shared core national identity military service for men that kind of thing But we've moved away from that to a point where yeah There probably will be some issues if we're uh, we're split 50 50 white and poc And many people lack any sort of national identity in, in a couple of decades.
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What a grim story.
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What about, uh, the idea of a gold card that Trump has instituted 5 million to buy your way to the United States to pay off our debt and import people, uh, who have assets and, and wherewithal.
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Actually for that, I mean, I don't, I think that's one of those things that you're supposed to be against on some kind of vague moral grounds.
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Nah, I support it.
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Which is weird because it's the same thing that New Zealand does as well as Switzerland.
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And once when I had a class full of very woke students and a political science course, I actually had them test this.
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I had them contact a couple of embassies and ask, you know, what would it take to move to India? You know, I'm a graduate student at a state university and people were explicitly polite, but it was like, well, you'd either have to pay us a million dollars or you'd have to be ethnically Indian.
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Still, if you don't have the 5 million, it's not just going to be rich people, but if you've got 5 million bucks, or I would add a recently patented invention, I don't, I don't see any reason why we wouldn't let you jump to the front of the line.
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You're obviously a contributor and come here and start a business.
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How did you get your money? You know, Mr Wang, you know, like you can't pay in dollar bills coming in, right? Yeah, you can't, you gotta, there's gotta, you can't untraceable and transfers from cartago.
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But in general, I don't really object to the idea you get the suns and Nigerian princes and Chinese inventors and this kind of thing I mean, you're not so I want to pivot here real quick to get your reaction a couple other relevant stories What is your perspective on doge and what they're up to for reference Jeffrey Tucker thinks that so far they've been cutting basically Nonsense out of the budget and 50 60 billion dollars, which is nothing and he thinks that it's mostly unserious at this point Yeah, I like Jeffrey Tucker from, uh, formerly of Brownstone as I recall.
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He's a good guy and a good, good, uh, good scholar.
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I, no, I, I, again, 60 billion isn't nothing.
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I mean, even for Elon Musk, that's a good, like, two weeks work.
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So after you get through the things I just described, 11 percent of the budget is paying the interest on our debt.
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And it's fun to go into the everything else category and find out that we're running homosexual llama farms in Kosovo or something like that, but that, that's never Where the majority of the money is going to come from we're never going to spend that much on homosexual llama farming It's so like to get really we discriminate.
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Yeah Disgusting what's going on? But anyway, but like all that stuff like they're I remember one of the things Elon cut, and I actually follow Elon on Twitter.
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So I was able to hear about some of this on a blow by blow, uh, kind of basis.
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But like, one of the things they cut was like a 75, 000 for a transgender comic book in Peru.
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You know, it costs maybe 10 cents an issue to print a book, even to the level of DC or Marvel.
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So yeah, Elon has cut billions of dollars worth of that kind of thing.
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The other thing with that is that when you make those kind of cuts and they go deep at all, so he really did get rid of a lot of USAID, Trump proved that would close the doors of a lot of USAID missions.
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So, like, right now, as I understand, we're no longer, and I understand this from people that are on the ground in other countries, we're no longer running PREPFAR, which is the U.
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I mean, are we going to reinstate just that as opposed to the rest of USAID? So when you come in there, like Elon actually did the old CEO meme where he was holding a chainsaw.
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When you come in there like a chainsaw Jim Duggan or whatever, like the CEO for GE back in the day, you make a lot of these mistakes.
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And what about your thoughts on the war on Ukraine and the blow up in the oval office this past week between Zelensky and Trump and Vance? Well, I think this is another one of those of just like, sorry.
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Um, I think this is another one of those you'd prefer people just act in a normal kind of coherent way I would actually I kind of blame zalinsky for this more than trump advance now that i've watched the entire clip because Most of the clip was trump advance kind of dropping subtle hints Like, yeah, when that minerals deals in place, nobody's going to mess with the thousand or so us workers, it'll be in that country with us splitting the profit.
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He did try to strong, it's some like eye issue here, but look, you wanna take it? No, it's pretty much through now.
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That being said, um, you know, it had terrible optics, the meeting, you know, that, um, they were all shouting at each other and, and Trump is saying, you don't have the cards and so forth.
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In the context of his recent statements calling Zelensky a dictator and having really unfortunate wordplay in front of the media on this, um, I think that the American public Was primed to view this as some kind of a failure and debacle of the administration, and perhaps in some ways it was because this sort of thing should have happened, as you mentioned, behind closed doors prior to a public display.
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They didn't do that, which some people like, but I think most people are not prepared to view that kind of raw footage that way.
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I mean, we've seen this in meetings, not there's nothing straight striking about it, but you're talking about a situation here where perhaps a million people have died in this war so far.
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What are what are all these people who themselves are very important lead reporters from? Well, none of them are part, but I mean, lead reporters, NBC and so on.
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Uh, who I know are in relationships with or have contact with people who have been in past administrations, but who aren't themselves.
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But the idea is someone contacted Zelensky, Zelensky was told, you know, the world is with you, don't give in, and he then grandstanded a little bit, and Trump said, well, no, I mean, we actually had a deal.
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We were going to sign the deal.
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That's what this conference is for and throw them out.
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So, I mean, if that is true, that explains a little of it, but, but yeah, the other nest optics are.
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Interesting, uh, that he would believe that, because the assurances given by Keir Starmer were nothing short of bizarre this past weekend.
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Like, he wants Irish and English boots on the ground in Ukraine.
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Just for reference, I believe the UK has around 50, 000 standing infantrymen, which is about the same size as the military of, um, Algeria.
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Uh, the idea that they're gonna go and, and make a, a resistance in, in Ukraine with the Ukrainians is, is Totally bizarre.
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I guess Ukraine could rely on, on the EU, were they to replace the amount of money that the United States is piping in.
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But I don't think they're inclined to do that, do you? No, I mean, so like what this reminds me of, I was a while ago, I watched one of the old DC Justice League movies where Superman dies and the opening portion of the movie.
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And there's a point to this.
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The opening portion of the movie is the rest of the Justice League who are also impressive, but much weaker in terms of their, their magic powers or whatever you like getting really
aggressive and doing superhero shit.
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And they eventually end up pissing off one of the ancient gods.
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The older gods or whatever they're called dark side or some such thing And he ends up fighting with all of them and is probably going to beat them until like superman magically returns Now these movies are all written for 12 year old boys, but you couldn't help thinking about this when You see trump just storm off the stage and then all of these other countries like norway britain India briefly someone are saying to ukraine, you know, we've got your back We'll blow up the world.
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We don't need the USA for that.
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Like there, there is that feeling of like the secondary superheroes are now piling in.
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I personally think Russia with, you know, 20, 000 troops from China or North Korea could probably beat all of them.
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I mean, I don't, I don't actually, I don't know if that's true.
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Russia's already hung up in Ukraine and barely winning that war.
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So they, they have a second power that they're dealing with, but I don't know if the EU countries really want an on the ground war in Eastern Europe that would extend into next winter.
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I think that would be a simpler way of putting it.
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Whoever wins.
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I don't really see Britain, France, Spain, and so on having a lot of enthusiasm for that.
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The obvious objection to any kind of ceasefire extended ceasefire and then deal would be that it just emboldens countries like Russia to take over.
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Tracks of land in neighboring countries and then reach a ceasefire to permanently claim them.
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And so, but however, this is where we are and I think Trump is such a pragmatist.
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He's such a materialist being that he's saying, look, this has already happened and it's not getting reversed and it's a mistake and a foible.
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We've got to end it now and cut our losses.
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Um, whether you agree with that or not, I think that is his position.
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So, um, Let's let's call it here.
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Dr.
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Riley.
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I think we've heard some very good analysis so far And it's giving people an idea as to how you're seeing the world Which is why they've tuned in to real clear to catch this episode with professor Wilford Riley as I'd mentioned His books are listed below a political science professor at Kentucky State University and author of the excellent work Thank you so much.
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Riley.
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All right.
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Thanks a lot as always.