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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to In Fearless Conversation, a podcast from 261 Fearless, where every discussion is an opportunity to shape the future.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm your host Kim Chafee, and together we'll explore any topic that impacts a woman's quality of life, from leadership and personal growth to health and financial security.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Join me and discover how a fearless conversation can shape the future you deserve.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hello, hello, welcome back to Imperialist Conversation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I am so excited to share today's episode with you because I've just returned from Vienna and the International Coach Summit that took place there over 48 hours.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was absolutely
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[SPEAKER_03]: Incredibly exhausting and invigorating at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We had nearly 100 coaches from around the world.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All in Vienna to just enjoy each other's company and learn and run, of course, and grow and it's hard to put into words just how magical
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[SPEAKER_03]: the experience really was.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's one of those things that you kind of have to be there to understand just how impactful it is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But today's episode will give you a small glimpse.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I had the opportunity to sneak in a couple of podcast episodes while we were at the coach summit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We did not have a whole lot of time to record these episodes, but I really wanted to take advantage of the opportunity of being in person with all of these women from around the world.
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[SPEAKER_03]: because we are global.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we are so spread out, but being in person, you know, there's nothing like it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I really wanted to sneak in a couple of...
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[SPEAKER_03]: episodes a few moments where I could pull some women from what they were they were doing and just have a conversation just so that we get to know the women behind the coaches because we talk so much about being a coach and I wanted to give our listeners who did not have the opportunity to be there with
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[SPEAKER_03]: an idea of what these events are like.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We get to know these women on a different level because we have the opportunity of time and proximity in,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Today, I'm excited that I get to share one of these episodes with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So today's episode features Juliet, lovingly known as Jameau from the UK, from 261 Fearless Club UK.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Prima from 261 club Southern California in San Diego and Sue Wella from 261 club Albania and we talked about
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[SPEAKER_03]: something that I think many of us get better at as we get older, and that's carrying less.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I know that might sound strange.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't mean not caring at all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, caring less about things like what other people think, whether you're doing everything, quote-unquote, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And maybe caring a whole lot more about what makes us happy, what brings us joy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And
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[SPEAKER_03]: In this episode, we talked about things that we're not worrying about anymore, things that matter to them more now than they did 10 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What they've given up trying to be good at, and we'll also talk a little bit about the 261 effect, and how they see that presenting itself in their local communities.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a great conversation and stay around till the end.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Annual find out something that each coach is weirdly good at.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's our final question for today.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, without further ado, let's get into the episode.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Will you introduce yourself and tell us what club you're with?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, I'm Juliette, known as J.M.O.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and I am with Club Greenwich in London.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And hello, I am Prima from 261 club in Southern California, San Diego.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hi, I am Albenia, the Albanian 261 club in Tirana, the capital.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So my first question is, what's something that you finally gave yourself permission to not care about anymore?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Something that maybe was something you cared a lot about
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[SPEAKER_03]: you're giving yourself permission to care less about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am giving myself permission to not be firing on all cylinders in all areas all of the time and it's okay to let falls drop to not be the perfect woman, worker, mother, career person, home builder, to not have to do it all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a working progress.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We all are bringing that up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what I am truly working the hardest on is to give up perfectionism and that knowing that not only is it not helping me, but it's not helping others, other women.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if I only portray an image of being
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perfect, I'm not giving that woman permission to be imperfect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and also in my imperfections, people then can hopefully see themselves and have more courage to do things that they thought were outside of their comfort zone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, I'm a working progress, but I am trying very hard not to care about perfectionism.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a great one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a long list, but the first that comes to my mind is that I've decided since I joined to 6-1 to give myself permission to have time for myself and that one hour that we do every week in this mid-runs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a dedicated time for myself where I don't have to, let's say, do as my family expects from me, society expects from me, someone else expects from me, go workers or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And believe me, every country has its challenges.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But in the country where I live in, still running is considered, especially for women, something that they don't have time for.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that it's out of, you know, it's not part of the mindset and I think that right now we are let's say planting some good seeds that running is not just about health but it's also for themselves to be part of the community and to make time as I said in the beginning to dedicate to their own self development.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hmm, that's really, that's really important.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that brings up, you know, that three of you are from three different countries, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So expectations on women is very different where we go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm wondering what matters more to you now than it did 10 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's something you prioritize more now?
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[SPEAKER_02]: 10 years ago, I really love someone dear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the whole mindset, how I perceive reality, not only no pain, but no whole-round world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It changed for me also because I started to travel and then later on with 261s, I met people that shared their own visions and their own way of how they
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[SPEAKER_02]: To me now, it matters a lot to have a good health because it was really uncompletely not something that you would take into consideration ten years ago, but now it matters to me not just for myself, but also to be able to take care also for the others that are so, so dear to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And running is important because it's good for my health.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for me 10 years ago, well, I was 10 years younger and now I'm 10 years older and life changes and I think I was at a different point where I
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it was thinking more about how to get head, so to get position, and such.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now being older, it's not so important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And also, I have different relationships with the women around me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I strive to look for women more than I did before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And looking for communities environments where we can lift one another up, and it's not a competition, it's not a competition, it's not a competition, that's what we say in our meet runs all the time, although we still play and compete in the games a little bit, but we always say it's not a competition and in play it's okay, but that I think has been a big change in me for 10 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the way that you prioritize relationships with other women and and yeah building people up yeah rather than thinking I had to build myself up so and what does that yeah what a chef that's great
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[SPEAKER_00]: two areas on a personal note, preparing myself for the future being as strong and as fit as I think I can be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd always imagine that as you get older you get less able and it's been turned on it's head and running has helped do that, you know, I can be stronger, I can get stronger and stronger, not weaker and weaker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's that one, but also really about community as well, being part of a community has become more and more important, being part of a female community, the community of women and the strengths that they provide each other and you see that in your, in these kind of events, but also in your local run and knowing people that live near you who are part of the same community makes you feel really grounded and supported.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a real power that we can give each other.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and that kind of leads into the next question, which is about the two six one effect.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to do this one quickly as I see your group is moving.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But the two six one effect that we talk about with two six one, you know, that ripple effect that occurs when one women like the three of you discover
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[SPEAKER_03]: your own strength and the competence that you gain through movement and community and then inspiring others to do the same.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's what we call the 2006 one effect.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm wondering if there's a story of a woman in your club or maybe it's you that really exemplifies the 2006
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[SPEAKER_02]: so it's my mom.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I joined to a six one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She lives in another city where there is no club of two six one and she was let's say having some house conditions starting to be more aware of her health and she started to do like speed walking and then started you know kind of
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[SPEAKER_02]: not really running, but more walking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I tried to be present with her in whenever I could visit, but I really saw that myself helping other women, she just seeing that in the photos or visiting me sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: it was life changing for her as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She really, like, lost weight, feels much more comfortable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's having less issues in her health, so I'm really proud of this achievement.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, on my personal note as well, helping me be more confident and be more aware of the woman in my local environment where I live and trying to
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[SPEAKER_02]: lift each other as also the other girls mentioned because I think it's on a circle so it's something what goes around comes back around and I'm also on other terms personally I work in raising standards of living especially in the country where I live in so I try every day to make it let's say 1% better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love that that's wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In our running community back home, there's a number of women that actually come to mind before I was involved with two six one who influenced me in when I started back running and began to join the community where they really emphasized putting others, others in front of them and lifting the women up in the sense that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: no matter where they were in their own personal journey, stepping alongside them and and strengthening them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that I think inspired me then not only to work on my own fitness and my own running and connect with the community but then that I of course want to be that person for someone else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I found two, six, one and even more so with that
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[SPEAKER_01]: being around the different women I want to be that woman for, again, paying it forward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm thinking about young women, so I've worked in schools over many years and being able to take the Katherine's, which is the story to the schools and talk to young women, has been a real privilege.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was working in a school for students with additional needs and edith, agreed to join
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we got the whole school running around the field and yeah, and the girls found that really really inspirational and started demanding with girls football teams and you know, they, they their voice was, became very loud.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They became fearless.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so they realized that they're impact.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They have impact too, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because what they were doing
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[SPEAKER_03]: on the field at your school was impacting those women in Afghanistan, those girls in Afghanistan, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they were inspired and horrified by the story, so it motivated them to do something, but to do it for themselves and recognizing the freedom that they have and the voice that they have.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so we're going to end on a late note.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Last question.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's something you're weirdly good at?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm good with chopsticks and I can speak some Japanese.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Ah, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is that a Japanese?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry for that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was going to say, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Good with chopsticks, that is a skill.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am weirdly good at encouraging the silly in our meet runs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and make up other games, and I will be the silly one first, and I hope that I can kind of be the Pied Piper and get the rest of the group going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's one of my superpowers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I think I'm a good hacker.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I also have trees and I was afraid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I also was told that I am a good Hager so I'm inspired others to also learn how to act.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So from Scandinavian friends for example They they really like are grateful to me now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We celebrate 10 years of friendship.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going now to Calgary in the next day
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they said you learned, you teach us, you taught us how to, how to hug, basically, because we didn't know before, like, you sense the good hug.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, is there any better compliment than you give great hugs?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to need hug after so.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you have it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, to back that up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, ladies, thank you so much for joining me for this episode.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you very much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so tired and I don't care.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm so really nice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so glad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I hope you enjoy the rest of the time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Dear listener, I can confirm that Suela does indeed give a great hug.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I was so pleased to get one from her right after recording this episode.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I hope you feel like you've learned a little bit more about some of the women that are part of two-six-one fearless that make two-six-one fearless what it is and understand a little bit better.
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[SPEAKER_03]: how special it is to be part of this global organization.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We've learned so much from each other in these 48 hours at the summit and I just look forward to continuing to learn from each other, to learn about each other and grow through this journey, through running and education and our
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's it for today's episode.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see you back here next week with another and fearless conversation.