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really enjoyed them. 00:04:56.160 --> 00:05:05.759 Um, it's just tricky overseas, um, just in terms of making sure that they have the same wine that you do. 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:08.959 Um, for me, the virtual thing, I love it. 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:20.560 Um, I actually want to find a system um where I can do a virtual class and be able to have maps and have it just be a little bit more interesting than can I share screen? 00:05:20.560 --> 00:05:22.639 Um, but a little bit more interactive. 00:05:22.639 --> 00:05:26.480 And um, so for me, I'm entirely open to it. 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:27.920 It's just challenging. 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:34.000 Um, when you're in the wine business, shipping wine is the biggest challenge you'll ever have. 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:37.120 Um for me, that's the big biggest challenge I ever have. 00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:40.879 It's never about finding the good wine, it's always about can I get it to them? 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:42.720 So that's the tricky part. 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:52.560 Um, if that's something that I can relieve, or I once did it with someone who was in um in Australia and I found a local wine shop in their area. 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:56.160 It was in Canberra, and but I still couldn't find a wine. 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:58.639 They didn't really understand what I was talking about. 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:01.040 So it was just it was tricky. 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:03.759 I think that's a tricky part, but it's something I would love to do. 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:16.800 If I could find a partnership of someone who has, you know, a retail shop or a business overseas who can fulfill that end and I just come in with the education, oh, that'd be amazing. 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:18.160 That'd be amazing. 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:20.160 Yeah, no, that's beautiful. 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:29.680 And I want to just, you know, I want to just throw this out to our listeners because perhaps some of them listening today don't know anything about wine and maybe have never even tried wine. 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:31.839 So what would you say for those folks? 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:35.040 I mean, how can they maybe introduce themselves to it? 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:36.319 Where would they start? 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:37.759 Are there basic ones? 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:43.839 You know, you've mentioned a lot of the Italian wines and um your top three favorites as of today. 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:49.839 But um what words would you share for someone that's just wanting to get started? 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:51.839 I mean, or how would you educate them? 00:06:52.240 --> 00:07:01.439 Absolutely, you know, forget countries, forget grape varietals, um, forget even where they grow wine around you. 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:11.040 Go and find a local retailer or restaurant or wine bar owner and get into a conversation. 00:07:11.040 --> 00:07:15.279 Um, that is to me the best way of getting started. 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:27.199

Rather than going to a shop and asking some kid, what should I start out at, and you know, or finding a label that looks pretty in your local grocery store, see if you can go and find and have a conversation with someone. 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:33.279 Um, because that is always the best way to start and get a recommendation and start that way slowly. 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:39.279 Um, it's wine is about people and culture and life, and I know I've said that before. 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:42.240 Um, and for me, that's the way in. 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:50.079 Um, I always have in my classes a handful of people, one, two, three people who just really aren't that interested in wine. 00:07:50.079 --> 00:08:06.319 They come to my classes and because they want to hear about the history and the geography and where it is and why it is, and that opens people up to doing little deep dives into history and learning about language and culture and all that stuff. 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:12.000 So if there's a favorite place in the world that you love to visit, you know, maybe start there. 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:19.120 Um, but there's especially if you live in a city, there's going to be someone, and they're not going to be in Bevmo or Total Wine. 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:21.680 I mean, they might be, but I don't think so. 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:29.600 Um, find your little local shop, find the person in the shop that tastes the wines and makes the decisions which wines come in. 00:08:29.600 --> 00:08:31.680 Take them out for a glass of wine. 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:33.279 Start a conversation. 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:36.480 Um, to me, that is your quickest way in. 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:44.240 And the world of wine is so vast and so complicated, but that doesn't mean you have to take it all in at once. 00:08:44.240 --> 00:08:50.879 Um start with that one person, start with that one grape varietal, start with that one region. 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:55.759 Maybe you went to the Loire Valley once in your life and really loved it and have great memories. 00:08:55.759 --> 00:09:00.399 Spend three months drinking every Loire Valley wine you can find. 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:05.600 Guarantee you, at the end of that three months, you're gonna have an opinion about the Loire Valley. 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:16.000 And that opinion is gonna seed an interest into perhaps Chablis or into perhaps the southern part of France, or maybe to Italy, or maybe to Greece, who knows? 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:22.320 Be curious and don't let a fancy Somalia talk you out of anything. 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:24.799 I love this. 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:26.080 I think this is so cool. 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:26.879 Thank you, Paul. 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:28.000 I really appreciate it. 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:33.039 Uh, listeners, it is that time of the podcast where we're gonna talk about a nonprofit. 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:44.639 If you haven't got an organization that you support and would like to help someone in need or just try and spend some volunteer hours, who knows? 00:09:44.639 --> 00:09:48.320 Um, we have a suggestion for you this month. 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:55.279 Uh, this month, thanks to Paul, we're going to support Tina's Wish Ovarian Cancer Research. 00:09:55.279 --> 00:09:58.000 That's Tina's Wish Ovarian Cancer Research. 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:01.279 We're gonna have the links in the show notes for you to go check out. 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:09.279 But, Paul, why don't you just share with us and the listeners a little bit more about the organization, what it's about, and how we can help. 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:10.399 Absolutely. 00:10:10.399 --> 00:10:13.200 Um, Tina's Wish, I first came across. 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:19.440 Um, my mother had ovarian cancer for about 15 years of her life, stage three. 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:23.440 Um, and that's not a cancer that you typically survive from. 00:10:23.440 --> 00:10:28.159 And she was a it wound up the doctors were studying her at the end. 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:35.759 Or the doctors were asking her questions at the end rather than the other way around, figuring out why this woman was still alive. 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:45.919 Um, Tina's Wish um was a foundation that I first learned about through Dana Farber Cancer Institute in Boston, Massachusetts. 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:51.360 I think one of the foremost cancer institutes for ovarian cancer and others. 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:54.720 And uh, they do really good work. 00:10:54.720 --> 00:11:01.600 And my mother was convinced that they were kind of the gold standard when it came to fundraising and research. 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:15.039 Um, and they also recognize my mother as being someone who was kind of a pioneer in in living with such a devastating disease like ovarian cancer. 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:21.919 And uh they had her come and do talks, and they were very, very supportive of her, and I'll never forget that. 00:11:21.919 --> 00:11:25.360 Um close second is UCSF. 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:27.440 Um they also are very, very special. 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:36.399 Um, but yeah, Tina's wish through through Dana Farber Cancer Institute, they're doing great work um on a disease that we know very, very little about. 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:49.519 Um they they seem to very much be interested in in engaging with quality of life, which when it comes to these scary diseases um that are that wreck such havoc in our systems, um, quality of life is everything. 00:11:49.519 --> 00:11:51.200 It's absolutely everything. 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:57.120 And uh to me, that was in conjunction with the Zacem Center, part of uh data fibric cancer research. 00:11:57.120 --> 00:11:59.519 You know, those those guys are my gold standard. 00:11:59.519 --> 00:12:05.519 And so uh yeah, Tina's wish, um, they're always after the research and they're good people. 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:09.679 And uh yeah, that's the that's the foundation I recommend for

sure. 00:12:10.080 --> 00:12:10.960 Thank you so much. 00:12:10.960 --> 00:12:17.279 Uh yeah, listeners, we'll have the links in the show notes for you to go and check out and do your your own research. 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:18.960 But yeah, I agree with Paul. 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:31.519 I think um this is important that we try and support um the findings of ways to either slow down such diseases or um cure them. 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:33.759 Or assist. 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:40.159 Assist is also what many people that are suffering from these diseases need. 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:42.000 So thank you very much for that. 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:50.559 Um yeah, we get into the fun part of the podcast, which we're gonna play a little bit of a a game, an association word game. 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:53.840 I don't know if uh I know Tanya has played this with me. 00:12:53.840 --> 00:13:00.879 I don't know, Paul, if you've played the word association game, but in a nutshell, we're gonna start off with a word. 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:07.759 I'm gonna go around the room, myself, Tanya, and then back to you, Paul, and then back to me, and then we'll keep on going in a circle. 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:19.039 You you can't you you have uh a certain, it has to be fast, so you can't um pause too long, and you have to find a word that associates with that word. 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:28.000 So if you have the word is cloud, the next person says rain, the next person says lightning, and the next it goes around and around. 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:36.559 But to end the game, you either take too long to answer, you can't think of a word, or you repeat a word that's already been said out of the three of us. 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:38.159 Okay, okay. 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:41.039 Who's going after you? 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:43.120 Uh you, Tanya. 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:44.080 Okay, okay. 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:49.519 Okay, so the word for today will be wine. 00:13:49.519 --> 00:13:54.480 Okay, so since we're talking about wine, let's do it. 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:57.120 So we got wine, go, Tanya. 00:13:57.120 --> 00:13:58.559 Glass. 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:01.360 Uh grapes. 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:04.080 Champagne. 00:14:04.080 --> 00:14:06.799 I said wine. 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:10.159 Uh vineyard. 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:11.840 What did you say? 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:13.120 I said vineyard. 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:15.120 Oh, I did, I did I said it right away. 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:16.240 Vineyard. 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:20.480 Okay, vineyard. 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:30.720 Um three year old. 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:33.759 A three year old. 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:35.120 A child of a meaning. 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:36.240 A three year old. 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:14.159 I think you said clown. 00:15:14.159 --> 00:15:14.720 I'm sorry. 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:19.200 I think I said clown. 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:20.320 I think I said clown. 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:20.960 Yeah, yeah. 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:23.840 Um big shoes. 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:31.279 Nail polish. 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:35.120 Uh uh. 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:36.480 Bad wine. 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:38.960 Oh my gosh, no, you know. 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:40.320 Bad wine smells like nail polish. 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:46.000 You still have wine in the word wine? 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:46.799 Oh my gosh. 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:48.639 Okay, listen, that wasn't the best. 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:51.440 We've done we've had better rounds, Tanya. 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:53.679 Okay, never mind. 00:15:55.200 --> 00:15:58.240 This is my first word association game game, guys. 00:15:58.240 --> 00:15:59.120 Cut me some slack. 00:15:59.440 --> 00:15:59.919 You didn't know. 00:15:59.919 --> 00:16:01.120 It's fun, it's fun. 00:16:01.120 --> 00:16:01.679 You did good. 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:02.240 You did good. 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:04.879 All right, guys. 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:13.919 Yes, um, before we go, I know some of the listeners might be just inspired by you or either one of us and want to reach out and get to know us a little bit more. 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:19.200 They have a question and they need um just to ask and and hear from you. 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:20.480 Where can they find you? 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:22.000 Uh, Paul, go ahead. 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:23.360 Absolutely. 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:25.600 Um, so my website has everything. 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:28.320 It's bottivino.com. 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:29.840 Um, that's two words. 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:42.960 The first word is botti, which is b-o-t-ti- and boti are the really big barrels that they use to age great wine like Brunello and Barolo and wines like that. 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:53.360 Um, and I've spent some time living at a barrel cooperage and watched these big giants being made by hand and like had a little religious experience. 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:58.080 Um, vino is the second word, which means wine in Italian, so Bottivino. 00:16:58.080 --> 00:16:59.440 So everything's on my website. 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:07.759 You can go to the about section, write me an email, give me a phone call, or or it I'm I'm very easy to get in touch with. 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:14.640 Um, and you don't, if you if you reach out to me, it doesn't have to be about a wine sale. 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:17.599 We can just have a conversation about your palate. 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:19.759 I'm I'm probably a bit more interested in that. 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:25.279 And then if we want to move forward and you want to buy some wine or go to a class or something like that, we can get there. 00:17:25.279 --> 00:17:30.880 But if you just want to have a conversation, I'm always, always open to having a conversation about your palate. 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:32.640 Love that. 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:34.720 Tanya, what about yourself? 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share. 00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:39.519 But I have I have one um interesting question, Paul. 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:50.480 My dad was was from Italy, born and raised um in Bisaccia, which is right outside of Avellino, outside of a few hours from yeah, so on the top of the mountaintop. 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:51.920 And I have a question. 00:17:51.920 --> 00:18:01.440 In his hometown of Bizace, they have a bottle, which it almost looks like a um, I'm gonna describe it like a tree. 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:06.559 It almost looks like a tree, um, like tree bark, but it's obviously a bottle. 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:15.279 I don't know if there's wine in the bottle, but they always sell it in like a the small one and only gift shop back when I was there. 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:29.279 I'm just wondering, in your opinion, if you've ever encountered a small um Italian, you know, shop that has, would that, in your opinion, maybe be a local, you know, a local wine shop carrying a local wine? 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:31.519 Because it's it's such a remote part of Italy. 00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:32.480 That's why I'm asking. 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:33.039 It is. 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:33.759 Um I'm sorry. 00:18:33.759 --> 00:18:35.279 That so the question is. 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:42.480 So this bottle, this bottle that my dad had, it looked like a tree bark and it was called it had the like it was bizarre. 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:45.680 It had a picture of the of the town on this bottle. 00:18:46.240 --> 00:18:50.880 But what was it a glass bottle with like things on it to make it look like wood? 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:59.200 It was actually almost I don't know what it was made out of, but it did not look like a wine bottle, but it was it held something like a liqueur. 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:03.839 I'm just questioning if it would have been wine because it was Italy in a small town. 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:06.240 Do you have any idea what it I don't? 00:19:06.319 --> 00:19:07.599 So two two things come to mind. 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:17.680 First and foremost, where your dad comes from is very famous, it's next to a very, very famous wine region um called Erpinia, I-R-P-I-N-I-A. 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:28.160 And it's um it's a historic area in Campania, home to three very important wines Taurasi, Greco de Tufo, and Fiano de Avellino. 00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:29.279 Avellino. 00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:31.599 Um, so very famous area. 00:19:31.599 --> 00:19:34.559 We're talking famous back to the Roman Empire. 00:19:34.559 --> 00:19:38.799 Romans talked about the grapes being grown in this area. 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:46.880 There was a wine called uh Apinium, uh Vitis Appiana from the grape Fiano, um, and that's the grape from the village of Avellino. 00:19:46.880 --> 00:19:53.039 So even the little wine shops in that area, I think, are gonna carry some pretty prestigious wines. 00:19:53.039 --> 00:19:56.480 This is not an obscure region, you know, in Sicily or something. 00:19:56.480 --> 00:19:59.359 This is like in important fundamental regions. 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:07.119 When I talk about and I teach about southern Italian wine, the first area I talk about is Erpigna in Campania. 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:09.359 So there's a good chance it may be something. 00:20:09.359 --> 00:20:13.759 The second thing I want to say is it sounds like it may not be wine. 00:20:13.759 --> 00:20:29.599 Um, typically, when I see, you know, bottles of some kind of liquid, and the bottle is not a regular wine bottle, and it's got an interesting top, and it could be an amaro, could be a liqueur, could be some kind of cordial. 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:31.599 And the Italians are famous for that. 00:20:31.599 --> 00:20:43.119 They're famous for these interesting little like things that they make um out of hazelnuts, and uh every town, every uh region has its own amaro and things like that. 00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:46.960 So it may be something unique along those lines. 00:20:46.960 --> 00:20:51.279 Um you remember did you ever see it poured in a glass? 00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:56.240 No, no one ever opened it, everybody was saving it for the rainy day, or you know, saving it for the rain. 00:20:56.400 --> 00:20:58.400 I mean, now you have me thoroughly interested. 00:20:58.480 --> 00:21:01.200 Yeah, is there any way to get a picture of that to me? 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:07.200 Um, I'll see if if we have a bottle in the family, otherwise, I'll try to research it and I'll I'll ship it to you. 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:08.559 Don't go, oh my god. 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:09.839 I mean, that would be that would be amazing. 00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:12.400 Just take see if you can just get the name of it. 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:18.559 And I can uh and I'll I'll do a little research and email you back and be like, hey, this is what that is. 00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:23.359 Um if you want to send it to me, I'll never say no to that, but let's figure out what it is first. 00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:25.200 Um, but I'm totally intrigued. 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:28.960 Italy is full of really cool little little secrets like that. 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:30.799 Um, so I think that sounds so cool. 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:31.279 Wow. 00:21:31.599 --> 00:21:32.880 Thank you, thank you so much. 00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:33.599 Thank you. 00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:39.440 So for the folks interested in connecting with me, um, and I'd love to have a future conversation, Paul. 00:21:39.440 --> 00:21:43.519 So I'm in the death care space, uh, funeral director embalmer. 00:21:43.519 --> 00:21:50.880 I actually am the director of the program at Miami Dade College for folks wanting to become funeral directors and embalmers. 00:21:50.880 --> 00:22:00.559 Um so I always see some collaboration there with the the macabre side of things, maybe having a glass of wine, discussing the Shakespearean uh death and dying concepts. 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:02.559 I there's some similarities there. 00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:07.839 Um I also serve as an expert witness for legal cases against funeral home and cemetery. 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:11.599 Um so both I work for the plaintiff and the defense. 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:18.799 Um so if a funeral home has a case that a family has brought against them, be happy to serve as an expert witness. 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:20.960 So looking to connect with attorneys. 00:22:20.960 --> 00:22:25.759 And the last thing I do is the space of senior space, which is placement. 00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:32.880 So here in Florida, I cover the east and west coast of Florida, matching people with communities who can no longer live alone. 00:22:32.880 --> 00:22:36.319 So we do not place for nursing home or skilled nursing. 00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:40.160 This is strictly assisted living and assisted living memory care. 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:45.039 And I'll turn it back over to you, Shereen, and uh you'll close us out. 00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:46.319 Well, thank you very much. 00:22:46.319 --> 00:22:49.359 So, first of all, I just want to say thank you very much for listening, everybody. 00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:58.400 If you want to follow my funny stories, you can follow me, Shireen Botha, on most um platforms, social media platforms. 00:22:58.400 --> 00:23:03.119 You can find uh Shireen's bookkeeping services mostly on LinkedIn. 00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:06.960 Um, but I'm I am on Instagram and Facebook. 00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:10.480 Um, and then lastly, Friends from Wild Places. 00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:12.000 Oh my gosh, my camera. 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:15.519 Okay, well, thank goodness you're just listening to us, hopefully. 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:19.440 So friends from wildplaces.buzzbrout.com is the website. 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:22.160 Please go ahead and leave some remarks. 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:23.680 Tell us what you think. 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:26.240 Um, we'd love to hear from you. 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:29.279 And remember, you got this and stay wild. 00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:30.240 Bye guys. 00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:32.240 Thank you, everyone. 00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:43.839 You've been listening to Friends from Wild Places with Shireen Botha. 00:23:43.839 --> 00:23:50.559 Be sure to subscribe to the podcast from the links to catch every episode and unleash your passion.