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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros MLB. This is leading off live, is b Joey p joe P's a pea with me? Of course is the Welsh and has all of you, the Peanuts and the cracker Jacks here on our twitch twitch dot tv slash Fantasy Pros. That's the place to be Monday through Friday noon Eastern and of course you can always watch us every single day on the YouTube channel Fantasy Pros MLB. Welsh, you're back on the home run streak. My friend dare I say he's red hot. We got a lot to break down today, the debut of Chase Burns, the return of Frankie Montas that I guess I don't know, Welsh, I guess I apparently jinxed. I guess that's that's the scenario. But where I want to start in a different place though, I want to start with Otani, who did go yard and apparently everybody had him but me yesterday and I regret it. I sat on the show yesterday. I am having shot in Freuda, and sure enough, Showy tanis shining Friday to the ball all the way out in Colorado. But there was a really interesting interview on Pablo tore this week. Tom House, who is renowned pitching coach, worked with NFL quarterbacks too. He's the guy that worked with Nolan Ryan. In case you don't know, everybody from Drew Brees to Tom Brady, Tom House has been that guy in terms of throwing mechanics, right, And I know everybody was kind of like, you know, saying, well, you know, I think Joe's overreacting to the show. HEO, Tommy, maybe he shouldn't pitch anymore, Maybe we should just let this go. And he had a fascinating take, well should I want to get your take on this too, and everybody in the chat too. He was talking about that he should solely hit and not return to pitching due to all the physical demands and the high potential for injury after undergoing two Tommy John surgeries networked or the Tommy John had the brace that now he's had both. And I thought this was really interesting because this is coming from maybe one of the guys who's arguably the best in the business when it comes to our mechanics period, Like he is a guru above gurus, and he was just talking about the physical training of pitching and hitting, and it's taking a so on and he's such a spectacular athlete at the one, he's an MVP on ready, that it's just not worth it, despite the contract he's getting. And I know, you know, we kind of had a really interesting debate about it last week, and I was just curious, does Tom House's input at all change any of your perspective on the Otani as the pitcher as we look for him to pitch again this week.
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Speaker 2: Not one ounce, not even a hesitation. I think this is just like opinion throwing out there, because it doesn't matter what any single person thinks except show. Hey Otani, he he runs this show. He's the one that was out throwing, you know, just live sessions on the field when the team wanted him to just throw it, you know, a little side bullpen session, and he said, let's make this count. Why am I throwing these competitive sessions and not putting them in games? Let's do it. He runs. How this goes? I bet for years there have been meetings with the Dodgers about you know, the or the Angels or whatever it is. There's been meetings about why he shouldn't. There has been meetings when they signed the contract. Why he shouldn't probably have this discussion ten different times, different consultants, team people. It's blatantly obvious that the arm stress of throwing and pitching can affect the hitting, and like he's had the Tommy Johns and he kind of keeps getting hurt and that pitching injury can take away from the hitting. It's a detriment to that and it is a risk, it's a massive risk, but none of it matters because O'tawni wants to pitch, and Atani is going to pitch until he is done pitching, and unfortunately that's probably either going to be a the bad part he has another injury and he's like, Okay, I'm really detrimental in my career. I'm getting older, I can't do this, or you know, it's just going to always work and it's just going to lay a little injury here and there. But no, I don't think, like I'll bet you every single person has weighed in on this. This means absolutely nothing. It will change no minds whatsoever. Otani is going to do what he wants. It's kind of unicorn deal. He's a unicorn player and he's I just truly believe he will pitch until another massive injury comes and takes away another season, a potential playoff runner, championship run, because it's very different now, very different Otani than the Angels run. The Angels, they were not making the playoffs. They stink. It's just a couple of great players. Now, if Otani is lost, it's a detriment to a potential championship winning team. But him pitching.
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Speaker 1: The Dodgers a playoff team without Otani.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think they're a playoff team. But I'll tell you what, in that division, the.
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Speaker 1: Way they're current in that division, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: If I put them at third in that division, I think the Giants might have maybe moved up. I think the Padres would be the team to be. But in the same breath of him being hurt and not being there hurts the team. Him being a pitcher with all those pitching injuries and pushing them one step further. He was like, was it the two years ago? It's like a top ten sp and he was like the best bat baseball.
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Speaker 1: So I'm saying he's not talented enough to to No, it's not like he's a mediocre pitcher. You know, when no one's making that thing where it's like, yeah, really, not that good of this. You should he's a gimmick. No, he's great. But I think that all the great athletes they want, you know, the superstar guys are on that whole different level. They push themselves to limits that maybe aren't healthy for them, and maybe I think that's where management has a responsibility. Personally, I'm on the other end of this where management has responsibility. Management has a duty to the team, to the
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organization, to the ownership that it makes investment a player that says, you know what, maybe this isn't the best idea because you are helping us so much and you are such a huge part of our success last year without pitching, we won the World Series with you, you know, and we can find other guys to pitch. We can't find anybody else to be show heyo, TONI and I just and I understand the temptation of it. So it's a fascinating conversation. I'm curious what everybody else has to say in the chat. Go ahead, drop your comments. But I thought, you know, it was very word I think, you know, when Tom House says it, I think that's one that like for me anyway, that kind of perked my years up again, like Wow, that's somebody really knows what he's talking about.
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Speaker 2: It, I guess, but I just don't see it as like like, oh my god, just see the new.
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Speaker 1: Conversation. Yeah, but this is this is a fun, respectful conversation to you and I where I think that you know, we have difference of opinions about it, and I'm not trying to change yours. You're not trying to change mine. But it's it's a really the only thing that's going to matter at the end of the day is the success ultimately of Otani doing both and how long he could do it for and then when he can't, what does it look like and how bad is it? Because if it's another McClanahan situation right where we don't see him for a season or whatever, it's gonna be. Man, that's gonna be real tough. Seven hundred million dollars just down the drain where you don't have Otani, the MVP hitter or the pitcher. I think at this point it's getting a little.
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Speaker 2: Tight, and I think that's where it turns into like and I told you so situation. Just by the public and stuff.
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Speaker 1: I told you you even said it it's inevitable. It's not. I told you so, it's inevitable. But he will have another pitching injury. Every picture does it's pitching.
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Speaker 2: I mean, pretty it's funny. I was just watching so I.
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Speaker 1: Thought, I told you so, it's inevitable, and how bad and when and how long?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the severity of it, it's so funny. With a friend does show. Justin Steele was doing an interview with a foul Territory yesterday and just like off nonchalantly, they're asking like, you know, hey, how's the rehab going, And he's like, well, you know, he's like my first Tommy John in twenty seventeen. It took this long and now I'm in the second one. And it's like, you don't have Tommy to Tommy John's in your career. Did you have a career, Like that's kind of the point that it is. So, yeah, there is an inevitability of it. But I'd also say, like as much as pitching gets money and the chase of pitching and the excitement, I mean, this is a huge pitching day. This is Skeens versus Misrauski day. This is a massive day for people because you got the best pitcher in baseball with one of the most ridiculous good young pitching prospects in baseball going up against each other. Eleven zero hits. We're not talking about like, hey, happy Ronald the Kunya hitting day. You know, like pitching is a huge sell. It's a massive cell for baseball. Every team is chasing it. What team is great with their pitchers. We're like, oh, the Mariners and they lost like three guys. So it is the temptation of what is needed as far as pitching goes. That is why he can do it at such high levels. Gonna they're gonna push the boundaries until they have to look themselves in the mirror and go, oh, you know, maybe we did kind of screw this up.
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Speaker 1: That's fine. I guess flags fly forever. At the end of the day. A positive groud. Shout out to Solar Flare as well for re subbing and Van Rod for gifting two subs. We appreciate you. Let's get to some more headlines here. Chase Burns debuted yesterday fan to eight. He struck out everybody in the first couple of innings and then the Yankees got to a little bit. I watched this start Welsh. I don't know if you had a chance to watch it, but he, you know, to me, came off more as a thrower at this stage in his career. The Yankees caught up to him, and I think he's going to you know, when he pitches against the Pirates, it's gonna be good days for Chase Burns. And I think other days where he's pitching against teams like the Yankees, it's gonna be a little bit tougher for him because I don't think he's got that that pitching acumen quite yet from what I saw. That was my big takeaway from him. Impressive v Low, But again Vlo isn't pitching. And you know, I'm more impressed with Misroowski than I am with Chase Burns. If I'm just putting it in the context about young pitchers so far, I think like Miserowski's ball moves a little bit more. I feel like Chase Burns again more of just like here it is, you know, he's just gonna blow it by you kind of stuff. The final points of pitching I think are still a ways away for Chase Burns. But still nonetheless certainly an impressive couple innings. I don't know what your takeaway for.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, first off, I almost nailed his line. I said five three or the runs one homer given up, but I said six strikeouts he had that after the second inning. Yeah, I mean, I guess I kind of see where you. I pretty much disagree across the board that I don't think he's a thrower. If you want to look at spin numbers, his slider twenty nine hundred rpm plus fastball pushed twenty eight and average almost twenty seven. He was spinning that fastball, touching one hundred and averaging ninety eight. So and you talk about the movement, it's now Misarowski, by the way, is like a technician of movement. His like slider's ridiculous, but like this is well above average and average twenty eight rpm, slider's ridiculous. He also threw all three pitches fifty percent or higher in the zone, So that's also not just a thrower that you know, if you saw the fastball like forty percent or something like, he's just guys don't know what it is and
they're going He was over fifty percent, which was good he had a twenty nine percent with rate. But he's also young. Like that's where I think more of this comes in. Sure, this guy last year was hanging with me on the backfields of the Reds, not throwing whatsoever. He had just finished college baseball. He is less than a year removed being into the majors and going up against the New York Yankees. So I don't know. I thought the slider looked good. The fastball is ridiculous. He threw out that change up. It was a good pitch mix. I don't know what more you could ask for. It's pretty not uncommon for second or third time through, you know, for hitters to kind of to pitchers, and pitchers have to adjust, and that's what he has to learn the intricacies of baseball and stuff like that. But I thought his stuff was ridiculous and some pretty good command and some good spin. Chase Burns looks all the part of like the top pitching prospect in baseball. You could argue him, Mizzy, maybe Bubba and Andrew Painter. That's like the big that's the fantastic four of pitching prospects.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's, like I said to me, more of a thrower at this stage. But like, because the velocity is so good, you get away with it. Thom Sever used to say, location, velocity, movement, right, those are the three things you needed. But the order he would put them in was very interesting because he would always say, first one is location, location, location, that's all about.
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Speaker 2: That's all baseball stuff.
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Speaker 1: Because now that wil I know, now it's v low and you know what, I think it's wrong. I think if you still move the batter's eye, it's really hard for them to hit balls. If you throw one hundred miles an hour, they can hit it down the pipe still. I mean, it's a problem Hunter Green had, which is ironic. It's the same organization right where Hunter Green, which is like here's is I got a hundred hit it and they were nice. One Hunter Green would get lit around the ball park a little bit and give up a lot of home runs because guys can catch up with that. Nowadays, they're faster, they're you know, they work on these hitting you know machines where they're pumping up to one hundred plus mills.
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Speaker 2: And I watched I watched Hunter Green literally from day one, developed for over three years. And the thing that I always stood out though, is he was just a dead red center. He had no movement on that pitch. It would just go. And that's the thing that is different though with Chase Burns. Like I said, you can see it whether it's visual or you want to look at the numbers. Twenty eight hundred max on your forcing fastball with almost twenty seven hundred rpm. That is a wildly good fastball. I didn't look at the stuff plus numbers after that after the game. I'm going to guess the stuff plus numbers were pretty pretty high across these pitches, and we'll have to see. He is the youngest of all the other guys. That's the other thing to throw.
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Speaker 1: That's also fair where I disagree that.
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Speaker 2: He's like a thrower and stuff. The reason it looks a little bit also is because it's like, you know, like I said, ten months ago, this guy was just walking around not throwing. He got the freaking fast track to the majors.
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Speaker 1: And there's one class That twenty twenty four class has been I mean, you know, incredible, and we said it last year. If you go back and watch that show, we were so excited about that class, and you know, we'll be doing that show again this year too, with a twenty twenty five class Todd the Jackasses. Joe calling Burns a thrower not want to go tiny pitch, seems like he hates fun. Why do you hate fun, Joe? I don't hate fun. I just want to help people win fantasy leagues. Like That's what It's clear that it's time for me to go to football full time soon because I guess I'm too cranky for the audience. I don't hate fun. I'm just saying I want to see show that Tony every single day and him pitching every fifth day. To me, you made all these investments in the glass Nows and Yamamotos and the rookie Sazakis and and and you know, Snell and all these guys, like that's their job, Joey. Tony's job is to go fifty to fifty again. That's what I want him to focus on doing. And I just, you know, I just I don't want to not have joey Otani. That's my problem. All right, Let's talk about Frankie Montas. Oh, you shut out the Braves for five inns. The Braves he was hitting ninety six on the gun. He was up an isle and a half as fast. But whoops. I mean, you know, baseball just kicks you in the nuts every single time. It's unbelievable.
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Speaker 2: Uh, guys and Joey that wee can agree on. And whenever you think you got it and you got to figure it out, no, like an insane.
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Speaker 1: Just I mean, I this was just I just laughed. I was watching this, flipping back and forth, beeing this in the Yankee game, just laughing, just like I chuckling out loud by myself downstairs in the ballroom watching this game. Spencer Striyder on the other hand of this game, three runs, five innings, struck out eight, got out of trouble in a big spot. Then it was a really long inning when they didn't bring him back, which I understand, like, just you know, we got the lead, he was down three nothing, they came back and they took the lead. Just take him out of the game and just move on to the next By the way, yeah, oh I loved it. That's what I want. I want. I want Spencer Stryder Edgy ready to go. Rysoglesis, by the way, got the save in that game, so it looks like he's getting back in the good graces, so the window is gone. During Schooble, he's pretty good. His ninth victory. H he hasn't lost the game since his step get started the season. Well, she just wanted to throw that out. I thought that was Fun's actually ridiculous. Garret Crochet seven scoreless, ten strikeouts for him and Pirates manager Did I just say this yesterday where I'm
done with oneo Cruz?
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Speaker 2: Did I the devil did say you were done with Oneil Cruz?
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Speaker 1: He was removed tuesday for a quote lack of energy and effort by the Pirates manager. And you know what, there's same thing.
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Speaker 2: I'm zeean there's context for this, though, I will say there are two things. First off, Oneil Cruz did it actually was just kind of dumbness, stupidity because he thought there were already two outs, so when the ball came in to second, he thought that was a third out, which was why he, uh, you know, led up.
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Speaker 1: Still still stupid, still your head, but here's.
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Speaker 2: What you do, like, took complete responsibility after and he talked, he said, you know what he's like, I talked, talked with him. I respect it and it and you know this has happened. I have great leaders. He took full responsibility for it. So just throwing that out.
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Speaker 1: That ball in the outfield that he watched get by.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was one of the dumbest looking plays in base I mean.
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Speaker 1: I mean that's the problem. It's compounding. O'Neal Cruz has a lot of talent, but O'Neal Cruz is I think another one of these. There's a Gregory Polanco, you know, even Starling Marte to a certain degree, where the Pirates have a knack for finding these guys that are just they look good doing it. But man, oh man, there's just something missing, Like I don't know what it is. It's like Dodgers is that other piece of the puzzle. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I just think I want to do this. It's something I used to do when I was a kid, like in the MLB the show Games was. I love to take, you know, whatever the current landscape was in the video game, and I would take and put all the players on their original drafted teams and look at what those teams would look like. And I just think back to the Dodgers. Dodgers had O'Neal Cruz. They gave up on him. They had yord On Alvarez, they traded him. Like, imagine what that Dodger homegrown team could have looked like if they put it together.
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Speaker 1: But you know, I forgot Alvarez was that.
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Speaker 2: I know there's all those crazy trades where it's like William Domas was was a Tiger, you know before he was traded in the DATAI Rice trade, and.
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Speaker 1: I remember the Damas.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 1: David Price has been involved in a couple of wacky moves.
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Speaker 2: I feel like I kind of miss David Price. I loved David Price when he was a recall.
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Speaker 1: Why don't you give a he's a friend of yours. Well, let's get the transactions here. Let's start with the Cubs who sent Ben Brown to Triple A. So apparently, again another thing that's supposed to be a lock yesterday Ben Brown at nighttime. Nope, Ben Brown was bad and he has a six R and he's bringing it all the way down to Triple A with him, which brings us to today's Microsoft Chasing Challengers segment. That's right, everybody, just like the athletes, to push boundaries and redefine what's possible business decision makers today are turning challenges into opportunities, and Microsoft meets you where you are with tools and guidance to help you make an impact with safe Security Eye solutions. So whatever challenges you're facing, Microsoft empowers you with the expertise to say bring it on. In this segment, we're gonna talk about the Cubs pitching staff because I think we need to. The Milwaukee Brewers are just a couple games out now, three and a half games out the five I think plus five to fifty are getting on the Milwaukee Brewers. I keep looking. I know show Daan moonn Ague is coming back. I look at the rest of this rotation, and I keep saying to myself, Eventually, this Cub Cinderella story is coming to an end. Even Aga has not pitched well. His expected he alais in the mid to high fours, so is his FIP. His strikeout raids down, his walk rate is up. He is not the savior I think right now this year unless he completely turns things around from what it was earlier in the season and Ben Brown didn't work out. I know Boyd's been pretty good. We're really afraid of the Cubs down the stretch with the pitching rotation as is currently constituted, and do they have the chips in this system to go out and get a big time starting pitcher. I just don't think they do. And I think the smart thing to do right now is put all your chips on the Milwaukee Brewers for that central, because as the summer drags on and the hitting levels off, the rotation is what is going to have to carry a team. And that's one thing the Brewers have a lot of They have and more pictures and a few other pictures that are still on the way. Who knows, maybe even that Brandon woodro fella. And this week's Chasing challenges remember Microsoft AI solutions and power you to take bold steps and new ideas help drive your business forward. With Microsoft as your trusted partner, you can navigate your journey with confidence, finding innovative solutions and reaching new possibilities. Visit Microsoft dot com Slash challengers to.
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Speaker 2: More interesting guess you know that the central is the nod Mine, but it's the second. There's only two divisions in all of baseball that four of the five teams have plus run differentials. That is the NL West kind of probably no shocker, and the NL Central all positives, but they have the most even distribution. Four of the five teams have at least a forty plus or higher run differential, so scoring more than others. I agree with a decent amount of what you said in there. The two things I would say is the Cubs do have the assets to go make whatever moves they want. Their system is loaded with lots of interesting prospects. And I think a team not to sleep on is the Reds. The Reds were the team that I was on in preseason kind of let off. Interesting thing passing was talking about that Reds and just watch out for
them. You talk about pitching, Lodolo, Hunter Green comes back, Brady Singer, Chase Burns, They've got the trade assets. Yeah it man. I actually think that could be a really, really fun division. And I don't think anyone's a lock. And that's why whether it's Cubs finish fourth, it wouldn't surprise you. Yeah, that's why, Like whether it's your Brewers or you want to back even a Reds or something like that, I think they're all in play. Because as much as I do believe that the Cubs have the pieces to make some of those moves, I'm just not sure that they're going to and the rest of the division has to be aggressive as well. We keep talking everybody ships Sandy al Contra to the Cubs, and it's like, okay, well then why hasn't it happened yet? What if a team like the Reds of the Brewers swooped in. They both teams have pieces in their minds.
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Speaker 1: I think better pieces of the Meths certainly do.
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Speaker 2: Also, the Cubs have closer to ready pieces, which is different, showing Casey, Kevin Elkan, James Treanto's they've got the pieces.
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Speaker 1: Of Contra all contract trade. There you go, That's that'd be fun. Cody and Anahey and Anaheim. Excuse me, this take is exhausting, Joe.
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Speaker 2: I'm so exhausted.
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Speaker 1: Cody's exhausted everybody showing he is the top ten sp and he deserves to go into his arm falls off. That's great, except when his arm falls off and he's useless to all of us and the Dodgers. He's been seven hundred million dollars in a player you're not gonna see for Oh, I don't know, nine months, Like that's a problem.
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Speaker 2: But did my last injury, didn't he like not miss time. It was just he had to stop throwing and he just did. No.
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Speaker 1: It was because of the timing of it. See, the timing of it was a sense that it happened towards the end of the year, if memory serves, and they shut him, Remember it was the year that he was supposed to be traded. Remember why I kept screaming on the show trade showing on Tani Angels, you're not for real. And then they kept him at a week later, showing he got hurt in August. So by the time he was able to like pick up a bat and swing a bat, he was okay then. But the problem is, like again, it was a little slow to that uptake as well. But that's the problem is that the timing of it. If the timing of this injury is April next year, it wipes out your entire season practically, And that is a lot to take on for a team that has that much payroll and that much expectation.
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Speaker 2: If Otani gets hurt pitching this year, it will be the worst show.
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Speaker 1: It will be.
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Speaker 2: You know, Joe will wear the crown, the angel No.
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Speaker 1: Because I don't want it. This is not this is not that whole thing, like word the garrickle. I told you so, he's gonna have Tommy John and he did. It was a little later than I thought, and I knew he didn't look right to me the entire time. This is going back to that same Otani conversation that I had with the Angels, which is I was right about that because the Angels were in a spot where Otani was hitting and pitching and his value would never be higher, and there was no way they were going to compete with the big boys to bring Otani back. It was never gonna happen. They could have remade that whole organization. Do you realize that the Angels are basically in last place in every single division of the minor leagues? Have you seen this came out one of the worst organizations you could have remade, rebuilt the Angels from the ground up with four five prospects there that were major League ready, and instead they fooled themselves and then thinking we're somehow in this thing, acquired a bunch of B minus guys, see minus guys, and then a week later Otani got hurt. It was so stupid.
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Speaker 2: Well, okay, so then you know what the one thing I agree in this entire Otani conversation with you is is the biggest fumble was the Angels not getting anything and letting him walk. How they did be look at look at what a rental piece of oat of a Soto had done. Just imagine what they could have done. But the problem is is they can't. From top to bottom. The organization is dysfunctional. They've been dysfunctional for years. And how they treated the lower levels their overall development. They don't let guys go to Triple A like I don't know what they're doing. They need a complete overhaul and they did. There's their system is laughable. It is laughable.
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Speaker 1: Oh, it's just terrible again. And that was the big point. The bigger point was, no, he's going to go get everything you can for him. Stop like all of a sudden, what if they won the World Series that year? The Angels when the World Series that year, he was gonna magically stay.
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Speaker 2: Come on, you see this comment from Freda Cheney, which is a great name by the Freda Cheney off radio. Joe does this because it'll be gone by July and Welsh will have to hear it when he gets hurt. They're gonna leave me with the destruction and damage, which, yeah, there's some of that.
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Speaker 1: I don't want it. Tony so Wit Merryfield retired. Aw, you know we marrifeld a pretty good career thirty six years old. I mean, can you imagine returning retiring at thirty six? Three time all star went from a nothing prospect, remade himself into an All star, bounced around with a couple of teams after his success with the Royals, But a good career for Whitby.
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Speaker 2: What I thought was really yeah, I mean it's funny you say that, like we were practically that age when we started our fantasy career, you know, and he's like retiring. But you know what I thought was so wild about this? He retired at nine years and this the writing must have been on the wall. He stopped short of that ten year marker. You know, if these guys play ten years, you're then put into the god, I'm forgetting what the word is it?
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Speaker 1: Like?
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Speaker 2: The you know, the ten year marker, you get the insurance and your pay what's the.
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Speaker 1: Like?
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Speaker 2: You know, like if you're a cop, what's that word? The oh pension? Thank you? You're put in ten years? Yeah, it's a ten year there's like that's why they have they like pop bottles and they celebrate when players get to ten years. They're put into like that. You know, whatever the the there's a rev share for it's like a pension.
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Speaker 1: There's the ten years to qualify for MLB pension, a minimum of one hundred and seventy two days on active roster for those ten years. Wow.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So he retired at nine, which must have been so telling that there was zero point zero interest that he could have just stayed on a roster to end up getting that, because that's a huge, huge deal for players to get there. It covers you for your life and you know in at least some capacity. But there must have been zero interest from him, which is pretty telling. And you know the hall of fame he'll be talking to is that the pretty Good Hall of Fame on Twitter will probably be calling for him.
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Speaker 1: No one else though, Oh he's not a Hall of Fame or he's not even the whole of very good. He's also have you seen that account, by the way.
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Speaker 2: The Hall of pretty Good or the Hall of Yeah, I think it's called the Hall of pretty Good. It's a Twitter account that they actually have Like there's some like you can't be this, this, this, And they get players to interact with them, and they're electing every week a player of the Hall of pretty good and you get like Denard's Span got in and he did like an acceptance speech. Yeah, Eric Hosmer got elected to it. It's a pretty fun.
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Speaker 1: He's not even there. Wit and Merryfield I put in there. He's a dude.
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Speaker 2: I think he's going to get thrown into there. I don't think they'll give him a pench I would take.
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Speaker 1: I think I think he's had a better career than Hosmer. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I think Hosmer had a better Hosmer.
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Speaker 1: I think Osmer had higher expectations and then everybody just assumed he was better than he was. He go back to look at the numbers, like, oh yeah.
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Speaker 2: I actually I kind of always loved Hosma. Hosmer is like a really cool and he became a padre. He was just a nice guy on the backfields when no one really cared about them as well. But he won a championship, did Wit? I don't think Maryfield won one?
00:26:54
Speaker 1: Did he? Uh? Was he on the twenty fifteen team. I mean, now, I don't think so.
00:26:59
Speaker 2: Now I'm curious. I'm gonna look, I gotta look up Eric.
00:27:02
Speaker 1: Had to be after because it's nine years you just said it. Richard fitz is coming back. So if the dick fits you put it in that rotation, folks. Rookie LOOKI Christian Moore two for four with two homers, including the walk off yesterday. Very exciting. Marcelo Mayor three for four. He's only hitting two sixteen though, but he does have four home runs, so at least it's for some power. Michael Tolia three for five with three doubles. Look at him hitting doubles all over to place the doubles machine and chase the latter. Two for three with a triple, two walks, two runs, filling up the stat sheet at triple A. Columbus, Do you have an answer to that question there?
00:27:33
Speaker 2: Hush, Yeah, so it was real quick with hotling time. Yeah, no, you were well. I did Hosmer. I didn't do Mirrifield yet. Hosmer might be the pinnacle of the Hall of pretty good. He had he won a twenty fifteen World Series, which I think that would mean Witt was not there. He four Gold gloves, a Silver Slugger, an All Star MVP. I think that's the quintessentials.
00:27:57
Speaker 1: I think all of very good. I'm thinking magle Wardoniez like I'm thinking Carlos Lee. Actually, those are the names to me, those are the dudes that had like thirty one hundred seasons. Arrek Cosmer didn't sniff thirty one hundred seasons, like give this hold on, Carlos Lee checked this out thirty one thirteen, thirty one, ninety nine, thirty two one, fourteen, thirty seven one, sixteen, twenty eight, eighty one then thirty two one, nineteen twenty eight, one hundred twenty. Holy crap, Carlos Lee, Ladies and gentlemen, can we? I mean he played for thirteen fourteen seasons.
00:28:32
Speaker 2: Paula pretty good by the way, Maryfield.
00:28:34
Speaker 1: Carlos Lee is the hall very good.
00:28:35
Speaker 2: Maryfield had three All Star games and that was it. No nothing else, no World Series, no anything fun.
00:28:43
Speaker 1: Fact on CBS, the most dropped player last weekend was Jack Lighter. I didn't even look for that. It just kind of popped out at me when I was doing research for the Waiver Show today. Woh, I just wanted to share that Todd Bradley, good news for him. He's been awful. He took a no hitter into the six so well, she said the other day on the show. And I think he's totally right, which is some day TODs Bradley, like four years from now, is gonna pop off and become the todsh Bradley we all want him to be, because he has starts like this that remind you of how good he might be able to be, but it just never consident.
00:29:09
Speaker 2: It's gonna be like Max Freed level, you know, like he's just like Bradley will be just kind of average average, and then all of a sudden he's gonna win like seventeen names.
00:29:16
Speaker 1: Zach Wheeler.
00:29:17
Speaker 2: Zach Wheeler was that, Yeah, Zach Wheeler just kind of Wheeler was like yeah.
00:29:21
Speaker 1: Sam fran prospect, the Mets couldn't get him right and like whatever, and then the Phillies paid him to be the Zach Wheeler he could be, and then he was like that's pretty.
00:29:30
Speaker 2: By the way, Tod Bradley three point sixty six expected era about a full run lower than he currently has. He's lowered the strikeouts, though, I just don't think it
all. I don't know if it'll happen this year, but like I said, just put it a pin in it in a couple of years from now when TODG Bradleys like seventeen wins and just remember this.
00:29:47
Speaker 1: Tyler Freeman, We're gonna talk about him, by the way, Thrasher, I see your quote here. We're gonna talk about him on the Waiver Show today, so make sure you tune in for that, recording it right after the show. Ups and Downs. Nico Horner a really good day for him, three for four with a homer two score. Joey or teas on or twice and Riley glean Green, Riley Green, everybody if Matt Dog Ruth Riley Green if five with a double and a couple runs God and a couple of rib for the tiger they killed the a. The athletics are terrible, well shee the athletic? How bad at A? That is the worst. The downs Chris Paddock boy the boy. The Twins pitching is just just the worst right now. Four earns for him. Uh, his era has jumped from three to five to four six by the way, over his last three starts.
00:30:29
Speaker 2: The Twins are just have you trusted Chris Paddock. You right, No, it's just it's.
00:30:34
Speaker 1: Just so sad because the twinkies are just like just one after the other.
00:30:37
Speaker 2: Not to shame you or anything like that or pick up shame, but like you're as.
00:30:43
Speaker 1: Jamison, Tyan got rocked around. Eight runs for him again the Cubs pitching and Louis Severino never disappointed. Seven runs for him, giving up in five innings. Injuries. Max Meyer done for the year surgery on the UH on the labril hip area. So that doesn't sound too good, but hip.
00:31:03
Speaker 2: Surgery would be like the worst. Am I wrong?
00:31:05
Speaker 1: Well, it says it's a six to eight month recovery and if you put that generously, he should be ready for the beginning of next year. Theoretically, yeah, you could do that. Do with that as you will, But it looks like Max Meyer's becoming one of these guys that, like what could have been Sean Maniya, what could be for him is another couple of days off. He got a cortzone injection. There was some loose bodies in his elbow apparently. I you know Ron Darling was talking about he said he had the same thing twice and it's just about pain. Tolerance. So get your courtzone shot and then get out there and pitch. Is basically what Ron Donkling was saying. You gotta love those eighty six mets, you know, smoking a cigarette, do a line of cocaine. They go out there and pitch, you.
00:31:41
Speaker 2: Know, not on time. We both did the same thing without with the mess.
00:31:44
Speaker 1: So all right, I'm ready to go. Let's go pitch. Let's go. Michael Harris he had an elbow contusion. Uh, he is out after getting hit by a pitch. Zach Netto jammed his shoulder. Uh, he's having test on Wednesday. Bryce Eldridge diagnosed with a hamstring strains, so he's gonna miss about a month. So you might not see Bryce Elders this year with the Big Club at all. You know, Sarez MRI later this week, So fingers crossed for the Diamondbacks because if he's hurt, this is a huge loss for their trade chips, like they I mean, Suarez is the trade chip, and if they don't have that side, I.
00:32:15
Speaker 2: Do think it's gonna be one of that They got to choose between Naylor and Suarez unless they can get a deal done. But it's all about getting a deal done. Naylor is supposed to be back today. I think that it makes most sense. What I would want is for them to trade Suarez because I think he has a lot of trade equity. Keep Naylor and Lawler goes to third, or if they trade Naylor, you can move your hanny O to first and then you can make room for Lawler in the future. But they really do need to move one of these guys because that team is just they're cooked. They're cooked. Corman Carroll just you know, fractured wrists, and we found that confirmation. It's even worse. So Yo Hannio. If MRI comes back clean, I think we're gonna see Suarez. I think I really do think he's going to be the one moved, even though they love him.
00:32:57
Speaker 1: Check out these Maglio Ordnia stats while you're had, because I saw Carlos Lee so I got thirty one, seventeen, thirty two, one, twenty six, thirty one, one thirteen, thirty eight, one thirty five, twenty nine, ninety nine, then he had White Hurt. Those are White Sox years, and then Detroit twenty four, one oh four, twenty eight, one thirty nine, twenty one, one oh three and the best part is like it's like even strikeout to walks. He's like striking out sixty four times and walking sixty times, Like what a stud. That's the hall. Very good. Maglio, Ordoni's and Carlos Lee were always the cornerstones for me.
00:33:28
Speaker 2: I think I love love Matt Matt, I remember loving magleo Ordonios too.
00:33:32
Speaker 1: Oh, both those guys. You were also Carlos Quinton guy too for that Hall.
00:33:35
Speaker 2: Gosh, that was I've told the story, but I called I was on a radio show as as a tech, and I called Carlos Quinton hitting a homer in his first at bat in his first game to the radio host, and the next day the radio host had to like just eat it and give me credit. It was. It was phenomenal. I love Carlos Quinton. I think he's Todd coaching redeemings now sorry, go ahead.
00:33:56
Speaker 1: No, Todd's redeeming himself in the chat. Uh, Maglio is greater than Harold Baines. I agree, And Carlos Lee, after going through those dads, is better than both of them. So I don't know if we suspect Carlos Lee was a guy who had special vitamins or not. I don't know, but I never heard anything about it. All I know is that that dude was balling. Carlos Lee. I just took it for granted that he was so good.
00:34:17
Speaker 2: Now I want to know what both of them are doing right now.
00:34:20
Speaker 1: Well, hit his ten years, so he's all right, he's he's hanging out there. Rees Olsen is gonna make a rehap start today. Actually, your Nolvarez is hitting off a tee just like many children in the Tri State area tea ball season. Alex Vanoa through a twenty five live batting
practice session, Garrett and Mitchell was diagnosed with the left shoulder injuries to require surgery. So that's bad news. And more news from the Brewers because well, Brandon Woodriff, it's coming back to rehab. The prodigal son returns to rehab. I've been waiting for you here at rehab, Brandon Woodriff, just waiting here for you. You know what this is, You know what going to happen next. Once you come back to rehab, You'll never leave. You'll be here all summer along with me. Joey p Dark Joe in rehab in Toledo or Triple A Nashville, or wherever the hell they're playing today. That's where you're going to be forever and ever, stuck in rehab. I hope you've brought all your things with you. I'm waiting.
00:35:25
Speaker 2: I want. I need a photoshop of like a puppet master and it's Joe's face and it's a little Brandon Woodruff is the doll. That's what I desperately need that.
00:35:35
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they tried to send him a rehab and he's like, no, no, no, all right, let's get to the best bets of the day with Joey p in the Welsh. It can't be worse than yesterday.
00:35:45
Speaker 2: Holy crap, I was pretty good.
00:35:48
Speaker 1: Montass and Ben Brown. You know, you do all that work, well, you do all the work and all the data makes sense, and you're like, this is good, this is good informative betting advice, and then you just take a match to it. Lighting on fire happens Texas run line against the Baltimore Orioles today. Let's start there plus money on Jacob Degram. I'll take it. Young is on the mound. Sigano is not making the start today, so Young gets a start instead for Baltimore. I'll take the Texas Rangers against the Baltimore Orioles minus one and a half on the run line at plus money. Also plus money run line. We've got the Philadelphia Phillies with Zach Wheeler on the mound against the Houston Astros, so I'll take that one as well, and then give me the straight up money line plus one twelve. I think the Twinkies are imploding, and George Kirby is on the mound for the Seattle Mariners, so give me Seattle plus money. So three plus money plays. What could go wrong? Welsh? Where are you going for your best best today?
00:36:37
Speaker 2: Well, I've got all pitching strikeouts. It's a strikeout bonanza here, and I have been. I've been rolling a lot of two and one days, but it has been not very prop heavy, so we'll see how this goes. But I am in it and I like it. It's Paul Skimes, not just Paul Skeens, but it's like the number of the bit the cheeze. I think it was from Wedding Grassers or whatever, but it's Paul Skiens. Over seven and a half strikeouts is an extra e That's why I'm doing it for people listening. Paul Skins over seven and a half strikeouts. It's plus money plus one point fifteen. He is going to be ramped up even a little bit more going up against Mizerowski. There's some strikeouts in play with the Brewers, for sure. You know, anytime you can get, you know, plus money on a very obtainable strikeout run for Paul Skins, I'm gonna take it, and I think old school, thank you. It was an old school, not wedding crashers. I'm pretty comfortable with this one. McKenzie gore as well. Now, McKenzie Gore, one of your top strikeout pitchers in baseball. The reason this number is low is the San Diego Padres, which I get, but is also revenge narrative. He's going up against his old team, a lot of players he came up in the system with six strikeouts. McKenzie gore. He's got the stuff to get to these guys. I actually feel very confident about this one. It's a very low number. Six strikeouts, McKenzie gore. And then my final one, I'm going with an under on the strikeouts Scherzer under four and a half strikeouts. It's a little juiced up. I love playing this one. He hasn't really been great in the miners. The guardians don't really strike out. He doesn't really have that crazy big strikeout stuff. Right now, I'm taking the under on Max Scherzer. I think he's gonna get hit around a little bit. I'm not sure he's gonna be able to sniff this. So under four and a half strikeouts on Sureser. So we got overplus money, overplus money and juiced under on the strikeouts. Those are my props, my final ones of the week.
00:38:30
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00:39:03
Speaker 2: I think I'm at twenty one. I think I just got to twenty one, so I'm still I'm at twenty. Yeah, I'm too off the board. I'd have to have a pretty killer week, and I'm not here for two days, so I either have to go perpetuity or I'm gonna have to, you know, try to get it in on it while I'm at the dance competition. I might be able to call some homers.
00:39:20
Speaker 1: We'll see. Where's Joe Rico and Mike Mayer and worm on this? Even in twenty and ten, we're on Joe Rico.
00:39:25
Speaker 2: I don't think he's really played it very well. I don't know, I.
00:39:28
Speaker 1: Knowestly, I don't nineteen.
00:39:30
Speaker 2: I don't know if Mayor has been playing it this year.
00:39:33
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's sacrilege.
00:39:35
Speaker 2: That is that's very sad.
00:39:36
Speaker 1: Oh, dare you host the show, be the discord guy and not participate in the home run?
00:39:41
Speaker 2: And how about this? How about people given Joe piece of pia crap about leaving when football comes in? And yet the Great Mike Mayer, who doesn't grace us with his
presence in the chat anymore, doesn't do the home run content. Very disappointing.
00:39:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, Garret crouche eate another great start. You know, no videos anymore, nothing, Very disappointed. All right, I'm going to show you all Tani today. So I'm gonna do people who refuse to take him two days in a row, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna just do it. Plus one eighty two? Where are you going for your home run call?
00:40:10
Speaker 2: You know, this is like I love the play itself, but I think there's a little more narrative to this as well. I don't know if everybody saw this, but yesterday kud Tell Marte was seen like crying on the field and people thought there was speculation because of Vargas had hurt himself. So maybe they were good friends. People thinking maybe trade. But there's this really bad incident where a fan yelled something about Katel Marte about his mother who had died in a car crash in twenty seventeen. Really disgusting scene and it really hit Kotel Kuatel wears a lot of like bright colors in pink in kind of remembrance. Kutell is a great guy. You know, me and him are great friends, by the way. We hang out in the backfields and stuff on my Instagram with pictures. Kadtell is a great human being, and you could tell I felt for the emotion. For a lot of people try to hold back stuff, you know what I mean. He did not hold back. It affected him. They threw this idiot out. Hopefully he gets banned and all that, and there's you know a lot of people circling around Katel, which I love. I love that for him because that was a really gross scene and you just feel bad for him. Kotel's going to step up today. Katel is a gamer. He's going to step up today, and I think I might get too. And it's going to be a great story. I think, what a beautiful story will be after that gross incident for him still in Chicago to go in today, be at the top of the lineup and drop a bomb. So I'm going with Kateel Marte for my home run call today and if I don't change it, he'll be my imperpetuity, by the way, but I will try to be paying attention. Might even drop into some of the chats by the Way, and some of the shows. While you guys are rocking while I'm out.
00:41:45
Speaker 1: And today Wednesday, four pm Eastern, you could join us live on the YouTube channel for We'll be watching who knows, maybe Eve Misowski and everybody will still be pitching at that time. I think they have two o'clock start, two fifteen stars.
00:41:56
Speaker 2: Oh, I think we're on a four good call on that. Yeah, because we go.
00:42:00
Speaker 1: Catch the end of that game more likely.
00:42:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have been amazing if it was going on. Yeah, that game starts now, it's two hours.
00:42:05
Speaker 1: We'll get a rain delay. Yeah, the Angel what's going on during.
00:42:08
Speaker 2: Angels, Red Sox Padres Nationals will be going on as we go live.
00:42:13
Speaker 1: Okay, so have a little Baseball Live, take your questions, have some fun, talk about the stats of Maglia, Ordonia's and Brian Giles. Another guy was really good. That's the whole very good.
00:42:22
Speaker 2: Brian Giles.
00:42:23
Speaker 1: Brian Giles, Here we go, Brian Giles. Marcus John nine thirty five one, twenty three, thirty seven, ninety five, thirty eight, one oh three, twenty eighty eight, twenty three, ninety four is pretty good years. That's a pretty good run, right, there, Eric Cosmer, doesn't sniff that Denard span get out of here with that trash. That'll do it for us, but the story of the game goes on for the Welsh. I'm Joey p. We'll see you next time. Kids. Get out of here, Eric Cosmer.
00:42:47
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