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as 60 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:05.399 well, therapists, play tarrapist. Who's willing to well, who be willing 61 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:09.600 to want to work with us so we can provide this space for them? 62 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:13.000 Yeah, nice, Well, thank you. We'll probably hear a little bit 63 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:17.120 more from Megan later, but I want to pass the mic over to Alex 64 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:21.240 Martin because, as you heard, and it was my first time hearing it 65 00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:28.920 as well. The intro music was done by Alex Martin. Alex are you 66 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:30.560 there? Yes? Fast, Hey Alex, how are you doing today? 67 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:34.279 I'm good, I'm good. Fantastic. Hey, the music was really good, 68 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:38.720 and so tell us a little bit about it, your inspiration, how 69 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:42.360 long you took to put it together, et cetera. Well, I mean 70 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:46.079 I didn't graduate from any music school. What wow letter. Everything I learned 71 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:48.720 from Google and YouTube. So what I did was I did a bit of 72 00:05:48.759 --> 00:05:53.879 research on most of the talk show and I just asked Google, who's the 73 00:05:53.959 --> 00:05:57.079 number one talk show hosts? Oh, so Steve? How we came up? 74 00:05:57.360 --> 00:06:00.160 Oh? Really? So then I checked out all his jingles for his 75 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:03.439 shows. Then I realized, Okay, this will be something that's very good 76 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:08.079 that would the audience, not just in Malaysia, but I'm hoping that you'll 77 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:12.399 go find white. So I decided to do something funky like that. Yeah. 78 00:06:12.480 --> 00:06:15.680 I like that you said that because I actually like Steve Harvey. And 79 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:21.399 when I and Elvin sit down to discuss a show like this that we're doing 80 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:29.399 now, we often point to Steve Harvey and you know how he inspires people 81 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:33.160 through his shows. And so I'm so glad that you said that. So 82 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:38.279 did you do all this work at the studio that we have at DVCC. 83 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:42.240 Yes, Maaster, Yeah, fantastic, And it's so good to know that 84 00:06:42.279 --> 00:06:46.439 all our equipment that we have invested all these years is going to really really 85 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:50.240 good use. In fact, I think you were with a team last night, 86 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:54.560 right, Yes, tell us a little bit more about what you guys 87 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:57.079 were doing at the studio last night. So last night we were working on 88 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:01.439 this project called one Worship where we planned to get musicians from different church plants, 89 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:06.279 not just the guys from the main plant, but guys from sneer guys 90 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:12.040 from the guys from right. That's scary to just come and contribute ideas because 91 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:15.439 the goal now is that we actually want to create music or songs for praise 92 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:20.519 and worship that is usable for small church plan or really need big gears. 93 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:27.279 You don't really need big bands or can actually get the worship going. So 94 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:30.959 that's the vision. Oh that's great, So you are inspired. The team 95 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:36.639 is inspired to put music and worship together for especially small churches in it. 96 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:44.240 Yes that sometimes all they have is one guitarist, maybe a keybodies at the 97 00:07:44.279 --> 00:07:49.319 most, one more drummer or kahnis and uh uh yeah you can you know, 98 00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:55.360 I mean the sound might not be big. Uh, some people like 99 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:59.920 big sound, you know, five to seven member band with a choir, 100 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:05.079 you know, for six backup singers. And while big sound is not that 101 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:11.319 it's good actually, but we rather have big worship, and big worship comes 102 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:16.480 from big hearts that understand that worship is not even about music, It's about 103 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:18.720 a heart of worship. And I'm so glad that you guys have embarked on 104 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:22.680 this project and I'm sure that many many churches would be blessed. Have you 105 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:28.480 got songs really up online? Is there a place where people can go to? 106 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:31.480 Yes, pasta We actually have on our YouTube page for ex Church, 107 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:35.279 there's a playlist called Experiment. So these are all the new songs that we 108 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:39.120 produced in the last two years. Yeah, Experiment, nice name. Yes? 109 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:43.279 And how do people so, what do they type when? Like? 110 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:46.360 People like me? A little bit of a dinosaur when it comes to you 111 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:50.399 know, all this modern technology. And I'm sure there are many more pastors 112 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:54.559 in Malaysia who are like me or even worse when it comes to technology. 113 00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:58.679 Could you give us an ABC way of Yeah, So just open your YouTube 114 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:03.879 app on your browser. You can go to YouTube dot com and then search 115 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:09.240 for X Church. You'll see our logo. It's blue and orange. Good 116 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:13.559 click on it and then you go for look search for playlists. So under 117 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:18.399 the playlist we have a couple of I would say subjects or topics that are 118 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:20.720 on the same genre. It could be short films, it could be music, 119 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:24.679

it could be interviews, it could be even announcements or nice. So 120 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:30.039 look for experiment. So good. Yeah, it's spelled ac TS periment. 121 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:35.000 Oh nice. So it's not ex as in the proper spelling of experiment, 122 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:39.320 but we're using we're using the church name x A CTS experiment. That's right, 123 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:43.200 Okay, fantastic. All that's so so good. And you know I 124 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:50.639 always wish you well and praying that all our dreams in God will come true. 125 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:56.159 So so good. Now I want to just pass the next few minutes 126 00:09:56.879 --> 00:10:03.600 to Steven Passes Steven Who, Elvin, could you just shout out and tell 127 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:07.519 me who is Steven in our group? As in like, is he assistant 128 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:11.600 producer or is he what? What? What is he? Well, Steven's 129 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:15.679 playing the director role director, so he's the one in the control helm, 130 00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:18.879 you know, making sure all the angels are corrag and all right, all 131 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:24.519 right, So Stephen was trained by Sunway University or Sunday College. And this 132 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:28.720 is not really an adverdisement for Sunway. But he was and that's a fact, 133 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:35.320 and he did really well. And uh, actually I think he could 134 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:39.360 have worked for any other big company, media company, that is, but 135 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:43.799 he chose to work with A y A. And he's been with us for 136 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:48.919 a few years now and he's our campus pastor. He's also our church plan 137 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:54.360 coordinator for ex TAMA and if you didn't know, past Elvin is also the 138 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:58.960 church plan collator for XPJ. So we actually have quite h important people in 139 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:05.840 our studio today who serve God in more than one capacity. So Steven, 140 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:09.480 are you there? Yes, I'm here all right. So Steven, tell 141 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:13.600 us a little bit about your job being a director of this cheat up show. 142 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:20.360 Yeahs, I think it's definitely a new experience, learning something new, 143 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:24.960 trying out something different, you know, trying out different technologies even to make 144 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:28.600 this work, to to try to give the best experience to the viewers slash 145 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:33.840 listeners. And I think it's been exciting, you know, working together setting 146 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:37.039 up lives, setting up the different cameras, yes, and syncing up the 147 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:41.039 different systems, making the tech work. So yeah, Pasta, in short, 148 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:46.080 it's been exciting. What would we

do without the team and people with 149 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:50.600 such expertise. Thank you Steven and the team. Uh. And Stephen, 150 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:54.639 I want to go straight into the fact that you are campus Pasta. And 151 00:11:54.279 --> 00:12:01.879 recently I attended event called course c a U s E that stands for College 152 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:05.720 and Universe Students. Well, the E can can be interchangeable to evangelism, 153 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:13.320 explosion event uh and uh, equipping uh and many other words that begin with 154 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:18.360 the letter E. So C a U s E mainly for college and university's 155 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:22.600 university students. I attended that and you were the speaker that night. Uh 156 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:28.159 and Uh. You know, I'm really excited because I think there's so much 157 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:33.200 more to do. Uh. And the college and universities in Malaysia are real 158 00:12:35.519 --> 00:12:43.320 ripe and ready. Uh missions feel with a great, great harvest that almost 159 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:48.759 is uncountable. Uh. So tell us a little bit more about that and 160 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:52.279 what we can expect and maybe even how we can get involved. Yeah, 161 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:54.399 thank you so much. Past. I think it's definitely a history making moment 162 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:58.679 last Sunday to have course you know, past, I say, remember we 163 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:05.120 were sort of like talking about it very briefly through the months this year, 164 00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:11.759 and to see it realized and to see the students come and excited and also 165 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:15.559 responding. So what we did was, you know, we did We basically 166 00:13:15.600 --> 00:13:18.399 shared about the Great Commission and the techline that we have is that the Great 167 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:22.840 Commission is our greatest cause. And the students came, they heard it, 168 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:28.320 they heard from scripture, they heard from the Lord, and a number of 169 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:31.919 them actually student and responded and said, you know what, Lord, I 170 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:35.519 want to do something. I want to reach out. I want to fulfill 171 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:39.000 the Great Commission in my life. And even beyond that. After that, 172 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:43.000 we also broke into small groups, and all the campuses actually broke into small 173 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:48.399 groups and discuss how they can fulfill the Great Commission truly small through doing small, 174 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:52.799 growing small, doing small groups, and to really share the good news, 175 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:58.559 you know, to friends through small groups in their campuses. So one 176 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:03.399 thing we hope to see is definitely them being the pastors of their campuses where 177 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:07.240 they can lead their own quote unquote churches in the campuses through small groups. 178 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:11.399 And we're excited to see in the coming days, weeks, months, and 179 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:16.519 years, you know, how many more will be reached through this excellent so 180 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:24.919 good. I'm looking forward to the realization of every vision and every dream that 181 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:26.039 God has given to cause. Thank you, Steven, thank you so much. 182 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:31.240 Now we're about ready to just take a short break, and when we 183 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:41.240 come back, I'm probably gonna put together two well short interviews of the women 184 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:48.639 who are in the studio right now. So you heard me saying earlier that 185 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:52.919 I'm gonna put Megan on the spot for a few minutes. She's rather new 186 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:58.960 to us, but already she's doing a great job setting up, you know, 187 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:03.200 the Blue Rooms and especially the Toy Library. And then I'm also gonna 188 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:11.919 put on the spot my very own personal assistant, Shirley, who has been 189 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:16.039 working with me for the past twenty one twenty two years, and I'm gonna 190 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:20.480 ask her a little bit about how and what it means to be an effective 191 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:26.720 PA. And I think a lot of you guys out there might be able 192 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:31.039 to catch a thing or two because she's really quite an awesome PA, and 193 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:35.000 you know, she's learned through the years, and we'll find out in a 194 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:58.519 moment. Blue Rooms at Legacy Studios is a space design and fitted for children, 195 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:03.919 especially in those to come for play and therapy, equipped with a toy 196 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:08.000 library. The Toy Library at the Blue Rooms hope to provide support services to 197 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:14.120 parents and caregivers of children with special needs, and it's equipped with a wide 198 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:18.919 range of toys that encourage us imaginative play, gross moto, fine motto, 199 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:23.840 and communication or language development, as well as children's books and videos. It 200 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:30.279 is also a place parents can find support, encouragement, and inspiration in their 201 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:34.440 children's development. If you have any sponsors whom you think might be interested to 202 00:16:34.519 --> 00:16:37.519 contribute to this cause, please do reach out to them. And if you 203 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:41.360 need someone to speak to them, please let me know and I can go 204 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:45.679 over and share with them the heart and missions of this outreach. Let's work 205

00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:48.720 together in this to make the difference in the lives of those in me. 206 00:16:57.879 --> 00:17:04.720 All right, welcome, I'm back from the break. And just before the 207 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:14.039 break, I was, for the sake of the first episode having quick bullet 208 00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:22.319 sort of interviews with the team, because you know, I am nothing without 209 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:29.640 the team, and I really do appreciate them, uh, And I've interviewed 210 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:37.319 my producer, the director h and even the one who arranged the music. 211 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:41.200 And so if you've just joined us, that's what happened at the first segment. 212 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:45.559 And now we are at segment two, and I welcome all of you 213 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:52.880 back right now. As I said earlier, we are, you know, 214 00:17:52.960 --> 00:18:02.200 recording this chin up show from the Legacy Studios and Tally from the Blue Rooms. 215 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:08.000 And what the Blue Rooms is, as Elvin had explained, it's a 216 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:19.000 ministry organization, a place dedicated to families with special needs and children especially. 217 00:18:19.359 --> 00:18:22.880 And so we have just only a couple of months ago set up our Toy 218 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:32.079 Library. And with every huge undertaking like this, we need good staff or 219 00:18:32.119 --> 00:18:37.519 good managers at least, and we were so blessed to be able to find 220 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:45.880 one in the form and shape of Megan, who I will be interviewing in 221 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:53.319 the next couple of seconds. And she was actually a business owner in her 222 00:18:53.359 --> 00:18:59.279 own right. I believe maybe we'll hear more from her later that she was 223 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:07.759 actually uh an owner of childcares and to herself and uh then she decided that 224 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:11.240 she wanted to do something different, and when she heard that we were looking, 225 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:18.160 she came to apply. And after I think two or three interviews, 226 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:23.720 the team felt that she was indeed the right person to manage the Toy Library 227 00:19:23.720 --> 00:19:30.720 and the Blue Room. So I'm gonna pass the mic to Megan. Megan, 228 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:34.440 are you there? Hello? Hi, Megan, how are you good? 229 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:37.880 Good? Yeah? Yeah, I can feel like you're a little bit 230 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:44.400 nervous. Maybe you don't do things like this very often. But am I 231 00:19:44.519 --> 00:19:48.680 right to say that you own a business before Megan? Yes, before I 232 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:55.319 joined the Blue Rooms, I actually own aa okay yeah for about going to 233 00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:59.519 be six years now. Wow, I know that starting up with Tadica here 234 00:19:59.519 --> 00:20:03.279 in Malaysia, it's not easy. You've got licenses, You've got you know, 235 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:07.839 authorities coming to check and you know, give their thumbs up before you 236 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:11.240 can start anything. Then you've got teachers, you know, which is not 237 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:17.079 easy to find here in Malaysia for a kindergarten attatica. So tell us, 238 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:18.400 tell us a little bit about your experience, you know, because it's six 239 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:22.720 years right uh and uh yeah, I mean the hard work you put in 240 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:26.119 there, give us a little bit of a fortes or a little bit of 241 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:33.960 history. So I graduated from Saggy College in Early Years Education, okay. 242 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:38.200 Uh, and I've been teaching for about thirteen years. So while I was 243 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:42.279 studying, I was actually also teaching. Yeah. Of course, our colleges, 244 00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:48.960 Saggy was quite good because they give opportunity to us to actually gain experience 245 00:20:48.680 --> 00:20:53.119 while studying. Okay, So usually in the morning. My schedule be like 246 00:20:53.359 --> 00:20:59.960 going to pre school right and then teaching, and then the afternoon I'll go 247 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:03.960 for my classes. So I did my diploma and degree in Segi, and 248 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:11.039 right after I graduated, I actually prayed about what to do, and then 249 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:15.359 somehow God led me to open my own pre school. So yeah, since 250 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:19.680 then, I've been running my pre school and now joining the Blue Rooms. 251 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:25.359 Yeah, I'm sure it wasn't easy, right, setting up a lot of 252 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:30.920 a lot of steps to go, but God was really good, like license, 253 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:34.079 and it wasn't a problem for me. Yeah, I got it even 254 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:38.440 before I opened my Wow. Yes, that's real favor, isn't it? 255 00:21:38.559 --> 00:21:47.480 Yes? Uh? And what uh one or two things that you could say 256 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:53.240 was the highlight of you, uh you know running Attatica, I think was 257 00:21:53.400 --> 00:22:00.640 meeting different parents and able to touch like different lives of the children. Because 258 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:06.039 usually parents when they come to the Tadica they quite lost sometimes so they need 259 00:22:06.039 --> 00:22:10.640 a lot of help and guidance in nurturing and teaching their children. So I 260 00:22:10.680 --> 00:22:15.319 think that part was like quite interesting for me to see how different children change 261 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:22.680 in terms of their correct while they were in night the Yeah, that's good 262 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:26.920 to know because usually when people think about the kindergarten business, you know, 263 00:22:26.960 -->

00:22:30.640 the thing immediately just about the children, but you are reminding us that actually 264 00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:37.000 the parents also need help, that's right, and encouragement. I mean, 265 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:41.480 I've heard how parents will send their child to the tadica for the very first 266 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:48.000 time and cry because the child has never been away from them so long in 267 00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:51.519 the day. And it's like also part of them saying, oh, my 268 00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:55.440 child is growing big, you know, and some parents don't want the children 269 00:22:55.480 --> 00:23:00.319 to grow so quickly. And I also heard sometimes some children will cry, 270 00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:04.240 and you know, it kind of like adds to the parents saying, okay, 271 00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:07.160 you know, I cry along with you because it's so nice that you 272 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:11.440 miss me and want to be with me. But the worst case scenario is 273 00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:15.160 when a child actually just runs into the danica and like, don't even say 274 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:19.799 goodbye, and because I'm okay without mummy, and Bummy tells me that there's 275 00:23:19.799 --> 00:23:25.359 a bit traumatic because how can my child not want to be And I remember 276 00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:27.960 talking to something that we go like I wish the child would at least hung 277 00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:32.079 on to me and cry and not want to let me go. But my 278 00:23:32.200 --> 00:23:37.160 child having run in straight away without even like looking back at me twice made 279 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:41.400 me feel like, oh am I losing my child? And so I think 280 00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:45.119 you're right when you say that your parents also need the support. Fantastic. 281 00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:51.000 Okay, Megan, let's jump straight in into why why did you think that 282 00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:57.480 joining the Blue Rooms will be even worth your time? That's because actually my 283 00:23:57.559 --> 00:24:03.400 mom saw the you know, the posting of like finding the manager for the 284 00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:07.319 Blue Rooms. So when I saw that, and then I was like at 285 00:24:07.319 --> 00:24:10.920 the moment, I was actually praying, like what to do next? I 286 00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:15.960 was like taking another step of like in terms of my career, in terms 287 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:21.160 of I feel like I needed to do something else. So I was looking 288 00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:26.400 and searching, and then my mom showed me that posting and I just told 289 00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:32.759 my mom no, I said, no, I want to rest then, 290 00:24:33.400 --> 00:24:38.920 but that thought that that that posting that she showed me lingered in my mind 291 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:42.960 for like I think a week. Then I say okay, then go and 292 00:24:44.599 --> 00:24:48.000 email, and the time was the email was helping. So I just emailed 293 00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:52.400 him and then he replied me quite fast. So he asked for interview. 294 00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:56.200 And while before I did the interview, actually so I prayed about it. 295 00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:00.319 I said, can I lay out my TERMBS? My head, I was 296 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:04.240 like, okay, this them Dystom dystem Thissom. So I say okay because 297 00:25:04.279 --> 00:25:07.759 I was still like struggling, right, I'm not sure what I want to 298 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:11.160 do. So when I had interview with Passet, Elvin and Edlin, yeah, 299 00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:15.279 then actually they were really really like when I asked, they asked me 300 00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:19.000 questions and all, and I asked them what is like your vision achieved or 301 00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:22.799 like the Blue Rooms. So when they told me their vision and mission, 302 00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:29.000 then I was really really like impressed. At the same time, I was 303 00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:30.920 like, Okay, atially, this is like something I've been looking for, 304 00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:37.559 something new, something that can broaden my experience. So I guess that is 305 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:41.559 what made me join the Blue Rooms is to really help and support like I 306 00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:45.119 mentioned earlier, like even in my Tadica, we support a lot like parents. 307 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:49.160 Yeah, so I believe like what Passet Elvin and even I think pers 308 00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:53.240 can have, the vision for the Blue Rooms is to really support parents. 309 00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:56.400 Yeah, to give them that you know, that support that they need. 310 00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:00.960 Yeah. So I guess that this is what awesome make me join. That's 311 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:06.880 so good. So in practical ways, how does the Blue Room or how 312 00:26:06.920 --> 00:26:11.839 does the Toy Library help? Uh, just just give the listeners a sense 313 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:17.160 of like, yeah, how does it practically help the children? Currently, 314 00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:21.119 we really set up the toy library, so we have about like two hundred 315 00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:25.039 toys. Wow a lot. Still more we're addam more, we're still raising 316 00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:29.359 fun as Elvin said, but the toy library actually able to help the children 317 00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:33.759 as they come, Ye're able to achieve play with the toys. You know, 318 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:37.440 it's for the toys and like later on we will have like therapiests, 319 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:42.039 so we will collaborate with different therapiess so that these therapies that we are going 320 00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:48.680 to have will be therapists that will be aligned with what we believe. So 321 00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:53.960 I guess through these toy library parents can come also also to meet with

myself 322 00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:59.480 or Elvin also to get you know, advice and also to speak just to 323 00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:04.400 speak to us and get the support. Okay, So so the toile Library 324 00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:08.440 is opreading. Yes, it's up and running. Their parents coming so okay, 325 00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:11.400 so yeah, okay, so tell us a little bit about you know, 326 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:15.799 how how they can come, what time they can they come? Is 327 00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:18.200 the schedule, opreading? Yes, the toilet br is open from ten to 328 00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:25.200 three Monday to Friday. So but it's by appointment base, I see okay. 329 00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:30.000 So the calling yeah, that time you know, allocated to the parents 330 00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:33.799 one on one, so you can come and see yeh Monday to Friday ten 331 00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:37.400 to three. And do they call it? Do they do? They write 332 00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:41.440 in? We have an email okay, So you can contact us at info 333 00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:48.519 at timmy dot org dot my info at timmy dot or r G dot my 334 00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:53.359 Timmy is just T I M M y Yes, T I M M y 335 00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:59.279 okay. And so they can they can write in uh and is there a 336 00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:06.160 phone number? It currently not yet go to emails, so emails us uh. 337 00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:07.960 And I think that's good that there's a good start. Uh. And 338 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:14.119 so then they make an appointment and then they come right. Have you actually 339 00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:18.480 sat in any of those sessions so far? Yes, we had one parent 340 00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:22.960 who came in a few weeks ago to come and exchange your toys so they 341 00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:27.839 can loan the toys for like to we can loan the toys two weeks and 342 00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:33.960 they can re knew the reknew the loan all. They can come and actually 343 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:37.640 change your toys new toys. WHOA have you actually sat in in one of 344 00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:41.279 those times where the children is playing and and and and and and and see 345 00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:45.559 what happens and what it does to a child or currently not yet okay, 346 00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:49.480 because some of the children are actually in school. Okay, so they just 347 00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:53.039 take the toys and go homeland. Parents will come like the parents who came 348 00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:57.240 came and then asked advice like what toy I see? Yeah, I will 349 00:28:57.240 --> 00:29:02.319 share about like currently where is the child at? And then right, that's 350 00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:06.119 important. Right, So they tell you what the stituation is and you can 351 00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:11.079 actually advise them what toys are suitable? Is that right? Yes? Uh? 352 00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:15.519 And so good? Oh

fantastic. Is there any other way that you 353 00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:22.599 know, the interested public can get involved? We also have our first parents 354 00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:27.920 group this Saturday. You'll be at the Breach Summit at the bridge at the 355 00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:33.519 summit shopping of legs right the bridge. Okay, so any parent who are 356 00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:38.000 interested can do They need rs VP there. You do need to r s 357 00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:41.880 VV. Of course, we have limited seats. How do they do that? 358 00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:48.559 We can email or we actually have posting posted out Tommy okay, to 359 00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:52.039 our Instagram and to our Facebook. So they just have to find just find 360 00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:59.240 Timmy on Instagram or Facebook. Yes, just type Timmy Timmy yes, yeah 361 00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:03.559 and and okay, so when they get into the posting. They can there's 362 00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.359 a QR okay, and then they can RSVP. But it's really this Saturday, 363 00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.200 right, Yes, there's our first and we also have a second one 364 00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.279 or so in November, okay, that will be here in the Blue Rooms 365 00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:19.680 oh at Legacy, Yes, blue Rooms and Legacy here in uh well we 366 00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:23.599 call it the Eco Sanctuary more and so that's the next one in November, 367 00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:26.920 right, I think that's twenty fifth November. Twenty fifth November, and this 368 00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:32.400 comingany this coming Saturday one is twenty first, right, twenty first off October, 369 00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:37.880 And it's mainly for parents support right support to have engaging discussions or go 370 00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:44.039 share to get to know one another course first support group. Yeah, just 371 00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:48.400 to share you know experience. Parents really need the support, don't they? 372 00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:52.640 They need So that's why I think Timmy didn't really just say Timmy is an 373 00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:57.319 organization dedicated to children with special needs. I think as far as I can 374 00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:02.880 remember, last time I saw it it was you are here to support families. 375 00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:07.640 Correct, So it includes the children of course, but also parents because 376 00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:14.039 parents, parents really really need the support. Any other way we can make 377 00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:18.680 this organization work better? Any? Is there any fundraising you guys are doing 378 00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:25.480 anything like that cheaper in myself. You're planning some events, okay, so 379 00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:30.160 that we can get more parents in the exposure to know that there's actually blue 380 00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:34.559 rooms here while we here, so that the parents can come and visit. 381 00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:40.799 You're still planning on that, okay. Good. And I know that we 382 00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:45.200 spent about ten thousand ringgit to buy the toys, and then past Evan told 383 00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:47.799 me, but you know, even though it's ten thousand ringgit, it's only 384 00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:52.920 like one third of the wish lists. So I'm sure we are still open 385 00:31:53.400 --> 00:32:00.319 for people to give if the Lord so leads them to give, and we 386 00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:02.119 can give to the toy library. We can also give because I think this 387 00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:09.000 place was renovated to you know, have rooms, therapy rooms and all that. 388 00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:16.400 I think the target was two hundred thousand ringed and we have raised probably 389 00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:23.039 only just close to half of that. So again, if you're interested and 390 00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:29.720 blessed with money on the side or even a bonus, feel free to get 391 00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:32.839 in touch with us and give to a good cause. So do they get 392 00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:38.160 in touch with us at the same email Megan org dot okay, and then 393 00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:44.279 there also they can ask what and where they can give if they want to 394 00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:46.599 thank you so much. Megan, I'm so glad that you've joined us. 395 00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:52.039 I come into this office, you know, once a week at least, 396 00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:57.359 and I see you up there really dedicated. You even get yourself involved in 397 00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:00.880 cleaning the toys, making sure that they're always always sanitize and clean for our 398 00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:06.400 children, and you also advise parents and all that. So we're so so 399 00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:09.680 glad to have a person like you who already has a passion for children in 400 00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:14.960 your six years of owning your own Dadica kindergarten. So, Megan, I 401 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:21.119 wish you only God's best and I pray that you'll be so fulfilled in your 402 00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:29.519 work here as you see your time being transformed to help so many lives. 403 00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:34.200 Thank you, Megan. Have a good day all right. Now, we're 404 00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:37.720 just in time for another break. So we're gonna take a short break and 405 00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:44.880 we're gonna come back. And I promised you that we'll be interviewing Shirley, 406 00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:50.400 who is my pa. I believe she's worked with me for twenty one twenty 407 00:33:50.440 --> 00:34:09.360 two years now, and so we'll come back and have that conversation. Life 408 00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:15.800 is a beautiful gift from God, yet there are some who find it difficult 409 00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:22.960 to hold on to it. Linettes or Life Inspired Network Society, is a 410 00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:30.800

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the year, like they say, is twenty twenty three. So minus one 440 00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:30.480 it's the year I joined a Ya. Minus two is the year I joined 441 00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:35.480 ex church right. Okay, Wow, so that's a long time, right, 442 00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:40.320 So so how do you start? Why do you choose a ya? 443 00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:46.320 And why why have you stayed so long? Wow? I remember, I'm 444 00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:52.519 going to keep it shorter. Fast up. I remember I was searching for 445 00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:55.599 a job after I graduated. So of course before I graduated, I had 446 00:37:55.599 --> 00:38:02.679 the opportunity to to work in bank because I had three months break that time, 447 00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:07.039 and I thought maybe I should like put it to good use there three 448 00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:13.079 months rather than just hanging around. Yeah. So I actually got the opportunity 449 00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:17.159 to work in a actually international bank. Somehow I got in and they were 450 00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:22.440 looking for assistance, just a normal clock kind of thing. So I thought, 451 00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:24.679 yeah, I'm ready to do anything. So I went in there for 452 00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:29.440 three months. Uh and it is. It was in the legal fairs, 453 00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:34.880 regional legal fairs department, and so I kind of had an idea how so 454 00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:37.840 called a corporate world function, like the glimpse of it, the day to 455 00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:43.880 day working with the different regional heads and uh so so I did that for 456 00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:46.280 two years in a row. Thank god, they wanted me back, and 457 00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:50.800 I guess I must have done something right. I just did whatever that they 458 00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:53.360 asked me to do. I tried be on time, and I did well 459 00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:55.800 whatever that they asked me to do. I remember my aunt. My aunt, 460 00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:58.719 one of my aunts said this to me. She said, surely when 461 00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:00.320 you go in there, when you go in there, just learn as much 462 00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:04.920 as you can. Just learn. So that's that's what I did. I 463 00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.360 just learned whatever they say. Can you do this? Yeah, I think 464 00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:08.880 I would try. I don't know how to do, but I would try. 465 00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:13.840 So I had that, And after I graduated, I was still looking 466 00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:17.760 for direction, and I of course I gave myself a vocation for about three 467 00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:22.599 months. I thought I'm gonna have fun for three months, but literally I 468 00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:25.639 know that even with a one month I went to all the I mean different 469 00:39:25.639 --> 00:39:30.639 islands. I went with my friends, and after one month, I felt 470 00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:34.639 bored. No, I felt useless, like what am I doing? I 471 00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:38.679 felt purposeless, directionless, not all that lists And so I don't know. 472 00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:42.400 I think I need to do something, but I don't want. I didn't 473 00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:45.159 want to commit first because I really wanted to be sure somehow, And so 474 00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:51.119 I got myself into a market research company. Started from the very bottom, 475 00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:55.000 like stand on the street, say hi to people, get people interested in 476 00:39:55.079 --> 00:40:00.000 to do market research with me. I thought it was fun because I've always 477 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.039 I loved meeting new people. I have no issue talking to strangers on the 478 00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:06.639 street anyone. So I did that for about a few months, and we 479 00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:10.639 did a short time. I think my supervisor and the manager they kind of 480 00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:14.440 promoted me as well, because, oh, you look like you can do 481 00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:17.199 this quite well, and you can speak different languages. So in a short 482 00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:22.039 time I didn't have to stand on the street to block any strangers anymore. 483 00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:25.280 I could just go with the appointments. Maybe two apartments a day. Is 484 00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:28.679 it just go I make a promise for you. You just go and interview 485 00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:34.360 the managers and what became easier and easier in a sense in the short time. 486 00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:39.360 But I had to travel different places, but I felt unfulfilled. I 487 00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:44.159 thought to myself, do I want to do this for the long haul? 488 00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:50.320 So at that point I knew that I could work anywhere if I wanted to, 489 00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:54.679 because I am a management graduate, so I knew I could work anywhere 490 00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:59.000 if I wanted to. And I knew if I, yeah, if I 491 00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:02.599 work hard, I think I could make a living. But I didn't feel 492 00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:06.400 like it was what I wanted to do. So I started really seriously seeking 493 00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:08.840 God and praying and say God, I want I want to do something more 494 00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:14.320 fulfilling. And and then suddenly one day of I didn't want two of my 495 00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:17.360 friends they actually say, actually, Sally, have you thought about working in 496 00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:22.639 a nonprofit organization? I'm like thinking a lot about in my head. I 497 00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.519 never thought about that. What is that you know? And and long story 498 00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:31.960 short, I found myself looking at two youth organizations, uh that I knew. 499 00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:36.880 I didn't know them personally, but I knew

of them somewhere from my 500 00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:39.599 friends. And I went and then one of them is a YA. And 501 00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:43.880 at the point I didn't have any contacts, I didn't have any email. 502 00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:47.519 Those were the Yeah. I came from the era where handphone smartphones are not 503 00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:52.719 accessible, so you can guess how I ambassad. So I went on the 504 00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:58.400 website and I just think, Malissa simply hand tamla a dot com dot my 505 00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:01.800 yeah, I just really simply I just typed in and it was there. 506 00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:06.960 AI website was there, and I read the vision and there it was the 507 00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:10.960 vision that God re gave you when in nineteen eighty four, the Vision Revival. 508 00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:15.800 I read that or in text, not much of photographic, but my 509 00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:22.519 heart. My spirit was sleeping and my heart was feeling so fast, and 510 00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.239 I knew, I knew this is where God wanted me to. So I 511 00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:29.559 found a contact number on the website. I called and I asked, hey, 512 00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:32.360 are you looking for do you have a job? Do you have vacancy? 513 00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:36.960 And the person who got the phone and said, uh yeah. And 514 00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:39.599 after I found out there was one of the volunteers. And then finally the 515 00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:43.400 other second person I spoken to on the phone, I think it was Passandra, 516 00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:45.840 and she said, how do you know we're have a vacancy? I 517 00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:46.920 said, did you know this? Why I'm calling to us right now? 518 00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:50.199 Do you have a vacancy? And they said, okay, why are you 519 00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:52.440 coming for an interviews? So I met Then after that I met you and 520 00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:57.840 Pasassenia for the first time there in sees fifteen, third floor, and uh 521 00:42:57.960 --> 00:43:01.960 yeah, and shed more about the vision e A and I and I just 522 00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:06.800 knew, Yeah, this is where God wanted me to. And we prayed 523 00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:08.360 and I remember you asked me, so, what what what do you do 524 00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:10.920 in church? You know that time and what do you what is your heart? 525 00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:15.840 I say, my heart has always been with young people. And uh 526 00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:20.800 I was leading cell groups made out of campus students and with teenagers as well. 527 00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:24.760 So I've always wanted with young people, and yeah, that's how it 528 00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:30.480 started. Then one year later and I had an opportunity to serve as your 529 00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:35.239 PA because before that you had an l p A and we were doing events 530 00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:37.360 and all that, and I remember you asked me, do you would you 531 00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:40.679 like to try event management? I say, I have no experience, but 532 00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:45.320 I can learn, and you say, yeah, okay, then it's gonna 533 00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:49.559 be a faith journey for you and for us because we don't know where the 534 00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:52.199 money is could comeford to pay for a salary. But you have to pray. 535 00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:53.440 You have to pray. This is your faith journey and this is this 536 00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:58.199 would be our faith step as well. So of course after that I found 537 00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:01.719 out that the administrator before me left and you guys were actually looking for administrators. 538 00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:07.199 So to be honest, I didn't know what an administrator does. I 539 00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:09.920 learned on the go, and I was sore. I was so thankful for 540 00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:15.559 the grace that that that that un Passidona has shown me and taught me yet 541 00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:21.000 man. And of course soon after you also found your husband. Your husband 542 00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:24.000 found you, because I remember Roman, I remember it was a funny thing. 543 00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:27.960 No, he was. He wasn't working for us yet. I was 544 00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:30.639 working in a bank. But I was already discipling him at the time. 545 00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:35.519 And I think he came to visit me once twice, three times and saw 546 00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:42.199 this lovely looking administrator and then you know, slowly but surely or surely there 547 00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:47.559 you go. Uh, he you know, decided to make a move and 548 00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:52.079 uh. And you know, I only had a hint when he started calling 549 00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:57.119 my office for me, when he already knew that I was away. And 550 00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:00.480 I thought to myself, why is he calling my office looking for me when 551 00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:02.760 he knew that I was away. Actually it was so that he could speak 552 00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:07.679 to you. So anyway, you guys now are married nineteen years. Yes, 553 00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:13.719 that's the So God is good. And so now let's get into the 554 00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:17.559 PA business, all right, So you'd be my PA for twenty one and 555 00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:22.960 twenty one, yes, twenty one years. So people are asking, how 556 00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.719 can you work for a man and be PAD for so long? What will 557 00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:34.159 you answer? Be so hard to answer? I think, first of all, 558 00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:37.119 pass I will say the first answer, and nomally keep people. He 559 00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:39.559 said, Well, I'm thankful they ever a good boss. I think that 560 00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:45.320 is yeah, because I can't I mentionine pass if

if yeah, if it's 561 00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:47.760 a tough boss, I think it really take a lot more determination by I 562 00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:52.679 really thank you're a good boss. And the fact that I joined the organization 563 00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:54.559 in the first place was because of the vision. So I believe in the 564 00:45:54.639 --> 00:46:00.000 vision the Gods entrusted to you, pastor and a counterprivileged to support you to 565 00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:04.599 fulfill the vision that God has given you in any way, Yeah, so 566 00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:07.199 I would say, yeah, good boss, thank God. And also the 567 00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:12.760 vision that God has already given you, and God also in printed on my 568 00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:15.639 heart that yeah, this is what I'm going to do. Yeah. Right, 569 00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:20.360 because you are a pea that I have seen all these years really going 570 00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:23.760 the second amount. You don't just do it as a job. I can 571 00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:29.239 see that very clearly. You do it as a passion to support a man 572 00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:34.000 and you just said and his vision from the Lord. Do you get any 573 00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:39.679 satisfaction from that? Yeah, definitely, because I think another thing that I 574 00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:43.559 learned from you, past is that you also mentioned in your book before China, 575 00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:46.840 and something that you learn from your dad because he runs a lot of 576 00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:52.639 concerts. Right, one key thing to do anything well, even though you 577 00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:57.000 have no experience whatsoever is the word care c aar e care. So if 578 00:46:57.000 --> 00:46:59.119 you care, you go to the second amount. If you care, you'll 579 00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:02.119 find out more you care, you will do things that even though in people's 580 00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:06.000 eyes might think I had this one told you, I know it's like extra 581 00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:09.719 no, but because you care, you will just do it, because yeah, 582 00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:13.920 because you care and you want to make sure that things are in place, 583 00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:17.079 you know. So that's why I I try to do that as much 584 00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:21.320 as I can. I learned all the way. I make some mistakes as 585 00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:23.960 well, and those mystics were because I didn't care enough, I realized. 586 00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:30.800 So I would say care would be one guiding light for for for for to 587 00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:35.159 do anything well. And I get satisfaction from that because, as I said, 588 00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:37.519 I I believe in the vision that got given give that he has given 589 00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:42.519 you, and uh, I want to support the vision. Yeah, so 590 00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:46.760 thanks for that. Actually, I'm also thinking about in terms of job satisfaction, 591 00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:52.679 because yours is being inspired by vision. So you support the man with 592 00:47:52.800 --> 00:48:01.480 the vision. But have you actually in your last training two years seeing things 593 00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:07.960 as a result of the work, as a result of the vision, seeing 594 00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:09.960 things that make you go home and go like I want to keep doing this 595 00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:16.320 because it brings you such fulfillment, such satisfaction, and it's not always money, 596 00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:20.639 right, Yeah, it's not always promotion, it's not always holidays. 597 00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:25.360 And I'm saying this because I believe that a lot of people out there need 598 00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:32.800 to hear that you know satisfaction fulfilment in your work because of what you experience, 599 00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:38.000 what you see, what you hear the result of your work. Can 600 00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:44.400 you share anything like that to us? I'll try a baser. So I 601 00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:50.599 think one of the satisfactions is that when you I mean, everybody loves appreciation 602 00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:53.880 pass even though we don't do things just for appreciation. But yes, yeah, 603 00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:58.079 it's a good encouragement. And I would say I'm thankful that Bassa, 604 00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:04.960 you have always been very appreciative and very caring as well past, so I 605 00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:09.039 know that you are always constantly looking and looking after not just mees appear, 606 00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:13.960 but overall in the different stuff people that you interact with. You you care 607 00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:17.480 and that's why I know that if there's anything that I need to work on 608 00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:21.400 past, you let me know, or you know, if there's anything any 609 00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:23.519 blind spots not that I maybe have neglected, even though it might not be 610 00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:28.599 related to my word, Passer, you always look out for us, so 611 00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:30.599 so that that actually give me a lot of security as well. Yeah. 612 00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:34.639 And the other thing also, of course, when we put in the hard 613 00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:37.719 work and all that and then we see results, like how different things that 614 00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:43.840 we do touch lives. Yeah, And I know that the dreams that God 615 00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:46.519 gave you, even in the form of one of the ways to look at 616 00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:52.360 it is in the form of the social businesses that we have started, those 617 00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:55.079 dreams are not just not to make money, never, And those dreams are 618 00:49:55.079 --> 00:50:02.639 always driven by a vision and a hard to be a good contribution or or 619 00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:07.039 or just to make someone

else, someone else's lives better, for the betterment 620 00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:13.440 of this society, for our nation, even our nations. So your heart 621 00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:16.000 has always been very big buzzes. So that's why the dreams that that that 622 00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:22.679 we do and we pursue and the organizations that we start from there just they're 623 00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:27.800 they're just really aiming to touch lives. And when I support you, pass, 624 00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:30.280 when I support you in any way, in any small way, and 625 00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:36.159 I see that contributing to those dreams touching lives. Like for example, we're 626 00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:40.480 a suicide prevention organization and just as we mentioned timmy right for special needs, 627 00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:44.800 not not just the children, but the parents. The guidiance of the special 628 00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:49.079 nests are children with specialists as well. So even last time we have a 629 00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:52.960 medical clinic. You know, there are different things. So I see it 630 00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:58.280 as my contribution in those dreams, making those dreams coming to into reality and 631 00:50:58.360 --> 00:51:00.400 touching lives, even one life, and all that. That gave me a 632 00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:05.280 lot for fillment about because I also came to come to recognize that one of 633 00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:10.000 my basic needs of human being, right as emotional needs, is actually a 634 00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:15.840 significance. So yeah, I guess that's why I always sometimes I joined my 635 00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:19.760 husband, I said, if I will not believer today, what would I 636 00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:22.159 be doing? Right? I said, I think I probably find myself in 637 00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:25.639 one angiola, Like I don't fighting for women's rights or I don't think i'm 638 00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:30.239 five for animals rights. Well, well not to say I don't like animals, 639 00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:32.760 but yeah, just not that much compared to human beings there, So 640 00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:37.000 I think I will find myself in those. So it kind of match what 641 00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:43.119 how God has made me significant. So and in this job, in this 642 00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:46.360 ministry, I find a lot of fulfillment in that when I see uh the 643 00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:51.440 leader that I put in contribute to somebody's lives. It can be one person, 644 00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:53.400 but it's enough for me to carry on one more day. Yeah, 645 00:51:53.480 --> 00:52:00.920 so thanks. It's important to have job satisfaction and fulfillment, and I hear 646 00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:07.119 you. I'm so glad that you mentioned what you just did, because job 647 00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:10.199 satisfaction can be in various forms. Some go like, wow, you know 648 00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:15.960 I'm always appreciated, cared for, insurance, salary increase, blah blah blah. 649 00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:22.199 All that's good, but I love the fact that you included that fulfillment 650 00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:29.280 is to see that your contribution helps change lives because I want to tell you, 651 00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:32.280 if I've not told you before, and that's exactly what you do for 652 00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:39.840 me, that you actually make my job easier and you make my job more 653 00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:45.239 relaxed, even though it's hard. Because when I come to a shooting like 654 00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:52.239 this, I know that Elvin and the team it's already setting up. You 655 00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:57.480 know, so tech technology and technically and equipment and all that is all settled. 656 00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:02.519 But you know, when I sit down and I have a person coming 657 00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:07.400 by the side saying, oh, your collar is not rightly put, or 658 00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:09.920 your hair is not in place, or you know, a drink of water 659 00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:15.960 so that I don't And these may be small in people's eyes, but it's 660 00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:20.079 huge because if I don't have that water, I get thirsty, my voice 661 00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:22.599 gets out of place. Maybe I won't be concentrating as well, or maybe 662 00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:28.320 I have to worry about the details and not be thinking about things that are 663 00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:34.400 important. And so your contribution has been huge, Jelly, even though it 664 00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:38.960 is in small ways, is huge, and I want you to know that 665 00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:43.320 I'm blessed, and I've been really very blessed the last twenty one years. 666 00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:47.159 Now I know from the producer's signal to me, I have no time left 667 00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:51.679 to go into things I wanted to go into. But I'll save it for 668 00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:54.719 another segment because I think that a lot of people out there either who are 669 00:53:54.760 --> 00:54:01.239 pas or supporters of someone or maybe even bosses who go like I wish there 670 00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:07.000 was a PA school because you know, my PA has no clue. My 671 00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:08.880 pa just does it as a job. You know, comes in on time, 672 00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:12.159 leaves on time. And I mean, that's not wrong. I guess 673 00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:15.960 the pas, okay take it as a job, but you don't. You 674 00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:20.320 do it more than a job. You said already is vision because of that 675 00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:24.159 is passion, and you and you see the man who has a vision and 676 00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:28.679 you and your desires to support him, and you haven't done that for twenty 677 00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:34.639 one years. And so I go about to different churches, different organizations, 678 00:54:34.679 -->

00:54:37.559 and they also tell me, well, the leaders that tell me that they 679 00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:45.559 also have PAS. But then when you I always find that when you deal 680 00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:49.760 with them, you personally deal with these guys, they will say, why 681 00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:52.199 your PAS are good? Can you can you? Can you teach? Can 682 00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:57.119 you send your PA to our office just to can't give a PA lesson? 683 00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:01.280 So I don't have all that time because I don't want to not do justice 684 00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:07.599 to the points that you will probably share with us. So yeah, so 685 00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:14.079 maybe I would declare a PA school online with Shirley. Maybe I'll start a 686 00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:23.880 segment for you PA school pas. Okay, hold on, well, a 687 00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:31.880 PA Academy or PA institute that will be pie and so that I can invite 688 00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:35.880 you on again and then you can tell me, well, you already gave 689 00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:38.840 us a big one, a big clue, which is a care and I 690 00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:45.079 think if you really care, then you will know what to do. But 691 00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:47.480 okay, we'll save it for another time. I'm sure you have a lot 692 00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:52.480 to share, even through your mistakes you have learned. And again I want 693 00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:55.679 to tell everybody out there who's listening, Shirley has been a great, great 694 00:55:55.679 --> 00:56:00.519 blessing to me. Because of what she does, I get to do what 695 00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:02.639 I do even better. So Shelly, thank you so much for twenty one 696 00:56:02.719 --> 00:56:06.679 years. And I'm sure if you want to work for me some more, 697 00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:13.159 you know, the position is always always yours to have. And thank you, 698 00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:15.760 thank you so much. All right. So we have come to the 699 00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:23.280 end of our very first episode of Chin Up Show, and you know, 700 00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:28.920 I want to just thank my team here for doing this with me today. 701 00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:31.599 What an awesome team I have. I pray that I can do many more 702 00:56:31.599 --> 00:56:37.039 episodes with you guys, and I want to say that we would love to 703 00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:43.239 hear from you, the listeners. So do reach out to us please on 704 00:56:43.320 --> 00:56:47.039 all the major platforms and leave a comment if you can. Don't forget to 705 00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:52.360 hit that subscribe button, all that important subscribe button, and give us a 706 00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:55.800 like. All right. Your support means of course a lot to us, 707 00:56:57.599 --> 00:57:00.440 and it helps us, of course to reach even more listener us. Your 708 00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:05.599 stories matter as well, so feel free to share them with us and maybe 709 00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:10.800 one day I could be talking to you online. And so share your stories 710 00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:17.039 and inspire others together with us. So till next time, people, hope 711 00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:23.239 we can meet again somehow online. Thank you so much for tuning in today. 712 00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:24.480 God bless you