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Jeffrey Simmons is here, ladies and gentlemen,
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and he made a statement along with the rest of the Chicago Bears
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team on Monday Night Football on the road in
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Seattle. What a game. And we're going to go through it all right now.
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My name is Nick Brody from Just Another Year Chicago Bears, joined alongside Swifty from
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Swifty Sports and Keek from Keek on the Mic. And this is a Bears Roundtable
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production. So guys, make sure you hit that like button, subscribe,
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and also a bear down if you're loving what you're seeing from this Bears team
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so far. But we're going to jump right into it, fellas. And Keek, I'm going
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to kick it over to you. Bears versus Seahawks recap. Dominating performance.
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Jeffrey Simmons made it known, and that impact is already felt.
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Give your thoughts initially after this one. I am just very
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proud to be a Chicago Bears fan at the moment, right? And we give
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kudos to Ryan Poles every single show, and I want to do it once again
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on today's show at Bears Roundtable. Uh, kudos to Ryan Poles,
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man, for the team that he's built. Um, kudos to Ryan Poles for
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being aggressive. Uh, obviously the move for Jeffrey Simmons made an immediate
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impact. When I was watching Jeffrey Simmons, he reminded me of when we got Khalil
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Mack and the impact that he made right away in Lambeau Field
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against the Green Bay Packers. It was that type of impact. He was all around
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the football. He was a multiplier. Montez Sweat now looks like one of the best
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edge rushers in the league. Could have had 3 sacks if it wasn't for a
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couple holding calls on the back end. Um, this whole team really
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came to play. Obviously the big storyline was, you know, Caleb Williams,
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Ben Johnson, this Bears offense going against this vaunted, you know,
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Seattle Seahawks defense. And after the first drive, I was like, holy crap. I,
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I knew from that one drive alone what type of game it was going to
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be. Caleb Williams was locked in, and to me,
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I think he deserves respect in terms of like MVP conversation
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as well. Um, just still in shock that this
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is the team that we get to watch every Sunday. Uh, and I think people
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need to start realizing that this team is a legit Super Bowl contender now.
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Yeah, you could see the fa—
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you could see your face light up talking about
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this game. Swifty's face absolutely lit up when he talked about this game.
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And you know what? It's hard not to talk about it. You dominate the Super
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Bowl champions by double their score and you did it back
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to back against both Super Bowl opponents. First time in NFL history that a
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team has beat both Super Bowl opponents from the previous season in
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back-to-back weeks. And the Bears, you know, this is— I mean,
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first game with Jeffrey Simmons looking great. We'll talk about it in a sec.
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But Swifty, I'm going to go over to you real quick. And, you know,
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all 15 people that are here right now, I want to hear your thoughts of
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the game. We'll throw it up on the screen. But Swifty, you feeling after this
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one, man? That was— it was an electric feeling.
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I, I don't know how you livestreamed that one, Nick. I was,
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I was not able to sit down for one time for the
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entire first half. I was pacing around, I was like up and down,
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I was giddy. It was just— it felt electric throughout that game.
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Like, probably the most excited I've been to watch
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a Bears game since the Super Bowl in 2006.
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I honestly, that's how I felt. I was just amped up.
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I was ready to go and I was just so excited to see
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this team. And then they come out, defense looks awesome right away.
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It wasn't just Jeffrey Simmons, Kyler Gordon, Cam Lewis laying
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the wood, got that wood meter going right away.
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And then offense comes out,
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puts together that huge drive, drive down, drives down the
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field, scores a touchdown. And it was just electricity
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from that moment on. And it felt great, man. It feels a great,
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great time to be a Bears fan right now. What just makes it even better
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is that there was so much history last night. I mean, I just hit out
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that one nugget, but, you know, Caleb Williams, you know, breaking the Bears
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franchise record for fastest person to get over 8,700 passing yards in
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the first 3 seasons. Also along with that, too, DeAndre Swift,
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10 rushing touchdowns in 8 games. I want to talk about
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that. I think that everyone looks at DeAndre Swift the wrong way. They're like,
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oh, he's averaging like 2.93 yards per carry over the last
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couple of games. He has been practically by himself 2
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of those 4 games. He's been playing hurt even though it's not on the injury
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report, and he's scoring. I mean, he's averaging over a touchdown
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a game. He's on pace for 21 at the moment. I don't care that he's
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not getting the big gains, but he's getting the, the big runs when it
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matters. Swifty, did you want to say something right there? Sorry, I didn't mean to
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interrupt you. Oh, no, I was saying— I was saying— I was talking. I had
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my mic muted, but he gets the tough yards. I think that's the— that's
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the key there. He gets the tough yards and Ben Johnson doesn't shy away from
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him when the game's on the line. DeAndre Swift is right there helping,
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picking up those first downs, getting those big touchdowns. We know how
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it is, dude. I mean, I got to ask Trendsetter right here. You know,
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I was at the game. Bears fans everywhere. It was great. I— when I
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saw that sea of orange at the end of the game when Caleb
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Williams was getting interviewed, that's just— it's incredible. It's incredible. Going back to
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DeAndre Swift real quick, I'm going to ask you about it. DeAndre Swift, again,
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not getting the big yardage. I don't care, though. He already has a career high
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in rushing touchdowns with 10, on pace for 21 on the season.
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And like Swiftie was saying, getting those tough yards. I don't think enough folks
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are talking about how impactful DeAndre Swift has been for this offense so far this
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year. Are your thoughts after that big game with another— his second 3-touchdown game of
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the season so far? Yeah, 4 away from the franchise record,
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right? Exactly. DeAndre Swift, man, um, kudos to him,
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especially with Kyle Minungai being out. Um, you know, the sole focus
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is on him and it hasn't mattered, right? He has been, uh, really, really the
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heartbeat to the Chicago Bears offense. Kudos to, to, uh, Ben Johnson
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for not shying away from him when things are tough. But this is the type
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of matchup that we knew it was going to be. We got the— speaking of
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wood, you know, you had to chop down the tree. All night long, slowly but
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surely. This is a very aggressive and tough defense. Once again, he averaged 2.6
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yards per carry. It was tough sledding in terms of the yards per carry,
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but when
push comes to shove, DeAndre Swift knows the end zone. And speaking about
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the Wood Meter, I know people in the chat are waiting. I didn't go live
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yesterday because I'm still a little bit under the weather. I didn't go live,
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but my Wood Meter's at a 10 right now. You know, I don't—
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we need, we need to extend this Wood Meter right here, right? 3 is just
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not enough with how— not enough for Jeffrey Simmons, bro. All your blood
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was in one place, brother. Your body couldn't heal. Brain wasn't working.
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Did you hear the announcer? I— did you hear Joe Buck say something
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about, uh, chopping wood? He made that statement. He was like, Seahawks,
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the Bears have been chopping wood all night. And I was like,
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they can't. We got so much wood, they could keep chopping and
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they're listening. You know, there might be only 25 people, 2 of them are Joe
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Buck and Troy Aikman. They're like, how can we be like these bananas? I mean,
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like, seriously, they— I mean, shoot, that we It,
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it was electric last night from start to finish. And to answer your
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question, Swifty, I don't know how I— to be honest, I almost didn't
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stream last night because I was so nervous. But I was like, you know what,
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this could go either very wrong or very right, and it went very right
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in all the right ways. So I'm, I'm happy I did it. It was,
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it was awesome. And Keek, sorry you're not feeling well. Hope you're feeling better,
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my man. I'm sure you are now with that awesome Bears domination. But also
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It wasn't just DeAndre Swift. I mean, Luther Burden over almost
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already beating last year's yardage number at
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like what, 5— what did I post, 592 or something? He had 672
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last season. So he's almost pacing for that, though he's not getting the big
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scores. He's doing a great job too, and he's really expanding this offense in
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a lot of ways. What are your thoughts? Yeah, he's special, man. There's a reason
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why they call him the problem child, you know? And I just love the dynamics
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between him and even Roma Dunze, right? They're all doing their things, even Colson Loveland.
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They do a very good job, and I mean Caleb Williams does a really good
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job of spreading the football around. There's probably only one play where on a
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crosser, a deep post, I believe that Luther Burden was kind of open. I don't
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think Caleb had enough time to really get the ball to him, but Luther Burden,
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every single time the ball touches his hands, he makes a
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play for his guys. And just the confidence and the aura that he brings to
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the football field as well, um, everyone's just doing their job, right?
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And, and that is the most important thing. The Bears are playing their game.
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And as long as they play their game and their brand of football, I believe
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in their hearts that they feel that they're the best team in the league.
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Yeah, I, I think that— I mean, this comment right here alone from
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Shady Acacia: I honestly can't see us losing another game this year. My confidence in
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this team has never been higher in my 32 years of being a fan.
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You know, I honestly— I've been on this planet for 29
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years, and I'm more confident than I was in 2018. I'm more confident
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than I was last year. And someone tweeted it, but it was— I think it
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was Brett, uh, Collin or something like that. But he tweeted, he goes,
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for the first time in my life, I'm not panicking when the
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Bears offense is on the field. Full motion. Swifty, what are your
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thoughts of the offense as a whole? Yeah, I think that's the biggest thing here,
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man. It's— we've always had— we've had good defenses a
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lot, right? But we've never had an offense like this. The young core of offensive
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players that Ryan Poles put together. Shout out to Ryan Poles.
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The haters are in shambles right now. Listen,
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this team not only can be special, but I also believe what's
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really special about it is we can keep this entire core together
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for the next 3 to 5 years and continue getting better.
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There isn't a single player that's a major starter
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or player that I really like that isn't under contract for the next
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3 years minimum. So you look at that and then you say, okay,
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the guys we don't like— the Grady Jarretts, the Jalen Johnsons— those
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guys can get cut, right? And we can spend that money to improve
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the team elsewhere. So I think this team is not only special,
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but they can continue adding on and getting better. And if
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they can hit on a couple mid-round picks over the next couple years, because we
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don't have first-rounders now the team could be even better.
We're in a special position
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right now, and I know a lot of people want to talk about Caleb Williams
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getting paid and stuff. His contract's not going up till 2029.
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That's when his cap hit is going to skyrocket. So we got like a 3-year
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window here where we can just take over the NFL.
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And it's— I've never felt that way about a Bears team. I've always hoped
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we could be good. This team is special. So now it's just knock on the
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wood keep this team healthy and they can do special
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things. And I'm just so excited about it, man. It's honestly—
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I'm still, still taking it in even a little bit, man. It's crazy.
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Yeah, I gotta say, I'm at 3 Wood Meter right now after this one.
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And also, I think that we've said this, all 3 of
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us, in our own respective ways, but my goodness, Ryan Poles
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is a great general manager. You know, he, he had a vision He
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walked into Howes Hall and said, this is going to take a minute.
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This is not going to be a, I'm going to fix this team in one
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offseason. I'm going to go out and get Dante Pettis as our wide receiver 1.
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I'm going to go out and trade arguably the best off-ball linebacker in
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the NFL. I'm going to trade the guy that made you tens of millions of
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dollars in jersey sales and is an electric name just to come out and see
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whether the team is good or not. And Khalil Mack, he said that to George
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McCaskey, probably. I'm just assuming. But that's what he did. So actions,
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you know, he definitely spoke it into existence. He told him his plan. Yeah,
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he was— he walked in with a plan. We haven't had a general manager walk
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in with a plan. I thought Phil Emery was going to be that guy,
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wasn't. I thought Ryan Pace was going to be that guy,
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wasn't. And now— what'd you say?
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He had us fooled. I, I think Pace had us fooled. I thought he was
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gonna be that guy too, man. Well, Pace came in from a good background,
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you know, a lot of people coming in there going, oh man, like, I'm— I,
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I think that we got to go on. But anyway, The Bears had
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teams, but I always talked about it. You ever see, uh, the movie
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The End Is Near? It's with like all those comedians
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and they put that piece of duct tape over the big crack. That's why I
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started Just Another Year, and that's why I call it Just Another Year, because it's
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like every year we just put a big Band-Aid or a piece of duct tape
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on the big problems we have— cap, age, and just too much
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of one position, none of another. Ryan Poles said I
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just won a couple Super Bowls in Kansas City. I'm gonna come here and get
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the job done. And that's sure, sure enough, he did. Yeah, that's crazy. I,
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I actually, I started my channel a week after Ryan
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Poles was hired, a couple weeks after. My first video I've ever
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made on Swift Sports Network was after Khalil Mack got traded because
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I was like, look, I know fans are gonna hate this.
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No one's— I, I have Khalil Mack jersey and I'm one of the guys,
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and we, we all know we want Mack back, but when we got Mack,
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or when we traded him I knew fans weren't gonna like
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it, but I felt deep down like this is what the Bears need to
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do to build an actual Super Bowl caliber
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team and have sustained success. And 5 years later,
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man, here we are. And 4 years— what was this year,
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5? This is gonna be the 5th year. But it's,
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it's crazy to see how much this team has changed.
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And how bad of a position this roster was in, our salary cap
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was in. We didn't have any young draft picks. All we had is old
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overpaid free agents. We never had a franchise
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quarterback. From all that to this,
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it's just surreal, man. And I, I give credit to Ryan Poles. And I
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know a lot of people have been talking about firing him for the last 3
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years. I feel like those guys should just
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stop tweeting about football now. Yeah,
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well, it does— go ahead, Keith. Yeah, sorry, and I just wanted
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to add, I think the best part about last night's win was like after the
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game, the clips you were seeing of like Ryan Poles in the tunnel shaking
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the guy's hand, just the biggest smile on his face. Yeah, you could just tell
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that he's like just a proud like older brother at this point, right? Like,
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man, like I did it. Like we have a team that can win the Super
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Bowl, right? So I, I think that's— that was like the best part of the
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night to me. Agreed. I, I love seeing— just except he missed Tyson Bate.
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I'm just kidding, I, I'm just kidding. And maybe he did, I don't
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know. Um, but you know, guys, we got some questions that are
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coming in. We'll get to these questions in a little bit, so make sure you
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stay tuned with us. Uh, but we're gonna get back to this one. It's regards
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to Caleb Williams contract negotiations. One thing I do want to say is I
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find it really funny that all 3 of us started our channels all around the
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same time, and it was, you know, shout out to Ryan Poles, the man's
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cooking. If I ever saw Ryan Poles in public, I'd be like,
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whatever you need, pal, it's on me tonight. Like, I know you, I know you
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got unlimited pockets, but you know, we're good to go.
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Um, I got you, I got you. Yeah, overall though, man, you don't
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have a game like that last night without Ryan Poles doing what he's done.
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I, and I think that if Ryan Pace would have stayed one more season,
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this Bears team would have needed an 8-year rebuild. That's how bad things were getting.
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So the Bears made the right decision there. George is a fan like us.
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He knows you got to give George McCaskey some credit because 100%
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where this team was, a lot of people are like, oh, McCaskey sucks too.
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It's like he listened to Ryan Poles say, I'm gonna tear this team
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down and we're gonna lose for years, and McCaskey
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was all in on that, man. And I, I'm a big fan
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of him now, and I think without George McCaskey, if we would have had another
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owner that wanted to take shortcuts and was like, this franchise
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is too good to go through a 5-year rebuild. But McCaskey bought
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in fully, signed off on him trading Mack and Roquan away,
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and here we are, guys. Here we are, Super Bowl caliber team.
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You get rid of Ted Phillips, a lot of good things happen in that situation.
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You don't put an accountant in a president or CEO role. Sorry, just gonna say
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it. Just gonna say it. Is he in the NFL anymore? No. Anyway, let's,
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let's move on to the Jeffrey— let's move into the Jeffrey Simmons effect. But what
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a game last night. I thought the guys played really well, a lot of fun
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to watch. But we got to talk about Jeffrey Simmons and the overall impact impact
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that he had on this Bears team as a whole. And I'm reading comments from
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my video last night. I'm reading comments from today. Some people are saying that this
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is arguably the greatest Chicago Bear trade we've ever made, better than Mack. The impact
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is way different. I was like, whoa. But let's talk about it. Jeffrey Simmons,
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1 sack, 6 tackles, 1 pass deflection. And Jameson
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seemed to have forgotten the fact that he had 4 tackles for loss.
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So some networks are saying 4, some are saying 3. I'm going with the higher
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number because it just felt that way. But man, Jeffrey Simmons, an absolute game
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wrecker, worth every single pick already. I mean,
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alone last night, he was worth it. And this is the kind of move that
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you make in order for those first-rounders to become practically second-rounders.
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This is the move that you make that you took him away from Tennessee and
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that 5th-rounder in 2 years that we got out of it is going to actually
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be a pretty high 5th-round pick. Not saying— not getting excited about that,
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but Ryan Poles might hit on a gem, might hit on a gem. But The
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Jeffrey Simmons effect was real last night. You know, let's start off with just him
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as a person before what he did to his teammates. Keek, I'm going to kick
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it over to you real quick to start off this one. Your overall thoughts
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of Jeffrey Simmons' game last night? Just, just absolutely
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amazed about the impact that he made, you know, just as a person and his
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leadership that he brings. You already saw the leadership qualities that he has, you know,
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um, being in the league for a long time and, uh, just the,
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the way that he was smack talking the other team, you know, motivating his guys
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as well. Um, you could tell he was happy to be back with Montez Sweat.
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Uh, like, once again, we keep using the word multiplier, and that's exactly what it—
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what he was. You know, this was the first time this season where we're
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able to get home with only 4 guys, right?
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Dennis Allen did not send a lot of pressure like he was doing in the
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first, what, 7, 8 weeks, right? So it was beautiful,
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beautiful, beautiful, beautiful to really see the impact he's making on the
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interior and see Montez Sweat and Austin Booker be able to do what they do.
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And I'm gonna be honest, it may be a bold take. For the first time
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during this whole trade deadline nonsense and talking about Khalil Mack,
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last night was the first time where I wasn't
thinking about Khalil Mack on this
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team and was thinking that we may be okay with just Jeffrey Simmons because of
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what he's able to do for the guys on the outside.
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Yeah, shoot, I, I can
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agree that I wasn't thinking about Mack for about 2 minutes,
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and then I was like, wait, Imagine if we had Mack on
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this defensive line. Like, that's what I'm trying— we'll get into
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that in a little bit because we have a whole trade target segment that we're
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saving. Uh, but you know what, you're right. Like, Jeffrey Simmons,
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I'm just like, this defense was truly missing. And we've all
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pounded the table that they're missing a defensive tackle, that they're missing somebody to
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get pressure on the quarterback. You give that, our defensive back room played quote-unquote
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better. I would still say Jalen Johnson and Tyreek Stevenson
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struggled at points, but they were going against the best wide receiver in the NFL
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at the moment. But man, Sam Darnold couldn't do a thing.
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Our run defense is 4th in the NFL right now. We're currently 7th
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in points allowed. We're— I believe we're— excuse me, we're 8th in points
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allowed, 7th in yards, and we're 14th against the pass. I mean, we jumped
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8 spots against the pass, if you guys didn't know that. That is just
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absolutely insane how much better this Bears defense got with one
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player. And he hasn't even gotten to know the whole playbook
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yet. Pretty much Dennis Allen just said, okay, I'm gonna tell you to just run
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up the middle. But you saw Jeffrey Simmons drop back a little bit. There was
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one play where Jeffrey Simmons read that it was going to be a screen pass
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to the running back, and he instantly stopped pursuing, backed up, and who's
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there right to take him down at the line? Jeffrey Simmons. Yeah,
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just a beautiful— just a strong football mindset.
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I also love the guy because he's a leader. He was one of 2 Bears,
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him and Jade Walker, cleaning up the locker room after when everybody
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left trash everywhere, which I'm sure that's a conversation Ben's going to have with the
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guys after seeing that publicly posted, because that's just not a classy
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move. Swift, I'm going to go over to you because I can talk about Jeffrey
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Simmons all day. Your thoughts after Jeffrey Simmons' effect last night,
man?
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We've heard the term force multiplier, and there
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was talked about when we got Khalil Mack, it was talked about when we got
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Montez Sweat. There isn't a bigger force multiplier than
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Jeffrey Simmons, who just instantly makes everyone around him
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better. Montez Sweat, a guy that even we
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were probably getting a little sick of because he hasn't produced like we
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thought, still had 10 sacks last year. And I've said all along, I think
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we need more talent around Montez Sweat. But you
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suddenly put Jeffrey Simmons in the middle of the defense and Sweat
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gets 3 sacks. Now, 2 of them were nullified by penalty,
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but the man had 3 sacks. 3 Wood Meter, 3 sacks.
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But bang! Yeah, boom!
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Just like that. That's— that was Montez Sweat last night. That's— and now
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he doesn't need to take any more of those pills he was taking. No joke.
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Oh man, he's got like 5 Wood Meters.
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Gas station pills. Had to throw it out there. No,
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um, but he made everyone around him better, man. I mean, look at
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even a guy like Devin Bush, who Dennis Allen
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didn't have to send blitzes, but when he did, it was so effective
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because he sent a blitzer right up the gap where Jeffrey
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Simmons is. 2 offensive linemen there on Simmons, they don't break
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off to touch Devin Bush. They're too worried about
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Jeffrey Simmons, and Bush just It's escorted to the quarterback.
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Free run, free sack. Kyler Gordon's gonna
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get some more sacks. Austin Booker is gonna make more big plays.
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Crazy, bro. Smack. And then Cam Lewis on
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the next play. Bang. Smack, bro. And that's— this
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defense came out and really set the tone for that game.
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And Ben Johnson is— he's taken his
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game to another level. I mean, a lot of people talked about things.
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They were down on him a little bit when we lost that game to the
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Packers, but we'll talk about that later. But man, oh man,
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Jeffrey Simmons, it was a bigger impact
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than Khalil Mack or Montez Sweat, and he helped the guys
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around him. It wasn't just him making plays. You know what,
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I'm gonna tell that— I'm gonna say this to everybody right now. I think,
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uh, Swifty's got a juice box meter. Like, that guy's been— I
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22:13.084
saw that juice box come out every time. Hey, hey, is that
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strawberry juice? Berry, berry, baby. Berry,
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berry. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Watch out.
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How many berries can— how many single berries? Whoa,
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whoa, whoa, back it up,
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back it up, back it up. You want to go with the juice box?
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Mike Ditka, you're the juice box guy. I'm just kidding. You're the juice box
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guy. No, I mean seriously, man, you kind of hit on it in
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a couple of ways. I mean, the Kyler Gordon hit was phenomenal. Cam Lewis,
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I think, was great too. But Devin Bush was
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that blitzing running back— or excuse me, linebacker— that
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we wanted Tremaine Edmonds to be. But man, did he look
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phenomenal just getting so much pressure in the backfield.
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Sam Darnold was like, what do I do here? Like, he literally looks so
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confused at one point when the camera panned over to him. It looked like he
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just got smacked upside the head, concussed— not which he wasn't,
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fortunately. And then he's just like, bruh, what? Like,
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we're supposed to be really good. We just won a Super Bowl. Yeah. And it's
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like, he was looking around like, somebody help me.
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He's like, we just got Quentin Nelson and we still can't stop him? The monsters
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of the Midway are back, baby. Like, that just— the effect right there was so
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real. And, um, I do want to say one more thing is that
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I think it unlocked another gear in Caleb Williams, which that's our next topic.
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But I do want to talk about Jeffrey Simmons. You saw the leadership walking into
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Halas Hall. You also couldn't miss the guy. He's absolutely massive. He literally is a
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Chicago— he is a bear. That's monster, like fresh
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out of hibernation, just all muscle bear. No, no fat on him.
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And when Caleb Williams on that sideline,
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you saw him jawing at Antoine Randall-Elle. I'm not sure if you guys saw that
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either, but Khalif Raymond. Yeah, and Khalif, he was just fired up.
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But then he's going up to He has the cojones.
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6 foot, they claim, 6'1. I think Caleb's
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more of like a 6-foot kind of guy with cleats on. Nothing against that though,
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guy flat out rocks, and not making fun of him by any means. But he
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goes up to Jeffrey Simmons in his face. It was like a little kid looking
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up at his dad and was just like going, come on, let's go!
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Like he's firing him up. Jeffrey's like, all right kid, like relax, relax.
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Like, but that's leadership right there. You Caleb
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got inspired by it. He loves it. They're having so much fun. He's getting fired
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up because the defense— because Jeffrey Simmons is getting fired up. Like, guys, I think
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that Jeffrey Simmons has just changed this entire Bears culture even more
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than what we're used to. Keek, want to hear your thoughts on that? Yeah,
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yeah, I was gonna say, you know, because you made a good point about like
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the secondary looking, looking a little bit better. I think the reason is because when
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you're only sending 4 guys, that's what DA wants to do. He wants his 4
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front 4 to get to the quarterback, which they were with Jeffrey Simmons, Montez Sweat,
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Austin Booker, and so forth. That means you're able to actually drop Kyler Gordon back
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and help in coverage, right? And I think that was a huge benefit.
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I, I, I don't really know the exact stats, but when he was on JSN,
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he actually did a very, very nice job last night, right? And they
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had to move JSN around to, you know, obviously get his catches. And JSN's one
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of those guys gonna get his catches. But when Kyler Gordon's able to drop back
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in coverage, that is very good news for the Chicago Bears defense. I also
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want to bring up a quick stat. You know, I'm a big stats guy.
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And this was actually posted by Ian Rapoport, um, as of this morning.
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Since the Seahawks were held to 3 yards per play,
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3 sacks, interception, and 48 plays where Simmons was on the field.
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In the 8 plays where he was off the field, Seattle averaged 13.3
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yards per play. You talk about an impact, right? Every single time
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that Jeffrey Simmons was off the field, they resorted back to the
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old defense that we were used to seeing, right? So you just talk about the
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impact and the plays that he was in. It was tremendous.
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You know, I— first of all, it's an incredible stat.
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Second of all, I wanna— I'm gonna ask you guys a double-up question and see
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both your thoughts because I do want to get to the next subject of Caleb
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Williams. Kentavious Streete goes down with an
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injury, wishing him a speedy recovery. Then also Grady
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Jarrett leaves the game, who had the 6th best pass rush win
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rate in the NFL entering that game. He's consistently owned that.
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He's been pretty solid. The face mask thing, I get it, he was jaw with
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a Seahawks guy, whatever, we'll forget about it. We won the game.
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I don't— losing both those guys potentially this upcoming Sunday due to injury,
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is it weird that I still am not worried? Because Jeffrey Simmons practically has
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the talent of 2— both those guys put together, and it allowed
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Jordan Vandenberg and Jaden Loving to both maybe get some experience
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with the best guy in the NFL at it. Swift, I'm going to kick it
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over to you. Your thoughts on that one? I, I think we're fine when you
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have Jeffrey Simmons and you have Montez Sweat
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and Austin Booker, I think this defensive line is fine. Uh, we're not
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even— we didn't even really miss Dayo, and I think that's something that when Dayo
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gets back, we're gonna be— this week? Yeah,
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hopefully. I believe— I don't think they— they haven't activated his practice
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window yet. No, no, no, they can,
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but I don't know if he's ready yet. But I'd like to see— right,
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right now, Grady Jarrett, I think he has a lot more potential playing
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next to Simmons, but I also think this is the perfect time for
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us to take 2 and a half weeks here or longer
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and get healthy because we got a bye week coming up after this. We're not
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gonna play football for 2 more weeks after that. So you got
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3 weeks right now where guys like Dayo, Ozzie Trepillo,
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Kyle Minungi, and they can all get healthy.
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Let them get healthy. Let Grady Jarrett get healthy. The Bucs didn't complete
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a single pass last week. I'm not that worried about him. Not to
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say the Bucs are bad, but we're playing at home. We have
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a legit Super Bowl contending team here.
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Go into— go home, Chicago. Take care of
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business against the Bucs and let's get healthy coming
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out of the bye week. I want to save that thought for the outlook of
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2026, Swifty. I think that's a great, great thought. But man, that's going to
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be a long 2 weeks without Bears football. Let's go into Caleb Williams,
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though, his game versus the Seattle Seahawks.
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First of all, like I said earlier, fastest Bears quarterback to
ever get
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to over 8,700 yards passing. Along with that,
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too, he still only has one interception this year. He's on pace for 30—
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I think it was like 3,500 yards, 18 touchdowns and
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3 interceptions. And oh yeah, he's the only quarterback this year through 8 games
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to have more than 200 total passing yards versus
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the Seattle Seahawks defense. In Seattle in primetime. Guy flat
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out rocks. You know, I'm going to kick it over to you real quick.
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He didn't get that 300-yard passing game we were hoping for. Would have been the
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first quarterback since 2014 Brian Hoyer to do that. But,
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you know, Caleb Williams' game, I thought he was locked in all night long,
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really had one of his better performances under the lights. And your thoughts on it?
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Yeah, just, just excellent showing of quarterback play for Caleb Williams. And we've
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talked about time and time again, guys, about like him getting
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injured was obviously brutal in the moment, but I think he came back
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a completely different quarterback with just, just a mission,
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right? And he just was so calm under pressure. There's even some clips prior to
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the game when, you know, they were doing the national anthem and warming up,
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and, you know, that the atmosphere of Lumen Field and, and why it makes it
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such a tough place to play. He was calm,
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collected, and he knew, um, what he had in himself and what he
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had in his guys and just the confidence and to go in there and win
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the football game. Um, just, just the decision-making has been excellent.
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His, his presence and in the pocket, keeping his eyes downfield, uh, was excellent.
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And this is a very tough defense to play. And I do want to say,
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you know, ever since he's returned from injury, been absolutely excellent. Once again, he's played
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2 top 10 defenses back to back. But ever since he's returned,
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286.7 pass yards per game, 4 touchdowns with 0 interceptions, a 73.8%
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completion percentage, and 109.7 passer rating as well.
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Um, any questions that you had about Caleb Williams I think have been answered at
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this point, right? Chicago has a legit top 5 bona fide MVP
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type of candidate quarterback. And I feel like, you know, some Bears fans
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don't know how to act, and I'm still trying to get used to having a
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good quarterback like Caleb Williams. But I think the rest of the league has definitely
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been put on notice about Caleb Williams and the Bears. Yeah, uh,
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shoot, last night, and I tweeted this out, I was like,
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I actually feel like we have— this is, this is a feeling I've never felt
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before, having a real franchise quarterback. It was— I know
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all 3 of us might have talked about it in the past, potentially trading back
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that number 1 pick back in 2024, get in a hall,
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hopefully. Maybe, you know, Drake Maye or someone along those lines. Drake Maye is a
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good quarterback. Maybe it could have worked out and we could have had a little
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bit extra. But Caleb and Roman, they're connecting really well
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and Caleb's doing a phenomenal job. We'll talk about those 2 in just a sec.
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But Swifty, your thoughts of Caleb Williams' game versus the Seattle Seahawks?
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Man, Caleb just keeps taking his game to a new level
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and he's not even— think about this— he's not even using his legs right now.
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He's still recovering from that hamstring. Yeah, he didn't even run.
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He ran for like 2 yards yesterday. This is a guy who had
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more 21-plus mile per hour runs than Lamar
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Jackson last year. That's how fast this dude is and how
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good of a runner he is. His legs are a weapon,
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and he just went against the Super Bowl champions in
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their house and picked them apart by
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throwing the ball. And that, that's just so special. He's just scratching
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the surface of not how good he can be— this is
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something Bears fans got to wrap their minds around because we haven't had this,
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right? We haven't even had a good quarterback in a long time. He can be
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great, and I think he's already,
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he's already there, but he's just scratching the surface.
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He's going to keep getting better and better. And if Jeffrey Simmons and
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his defense can keep doing what they're doing giving him the ball back and giving
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him more opportunities. This team is just so special,
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and Caleb is that guy. If there's anybody out there that's still doubting him,
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what are you doing? You're not watching the tape. You're just worried about his fingernails
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or something. Might just go home, paint your fingernails,
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realize it's not a big deal, and realize the Chicago
Bears have
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a franchise quarterback. And not just any franchise quarterback, one that's going
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to be in the elite tier. With the Josh Allens and the Patrick Mahomes.
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I see Caleb taking that step very soon, and it's
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a scary feeling as a Bears fan because we've never felt that. We've watched it
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in Green Bay, but we've never had one ourselves. You know, I'll say
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this, I think he's already like subtly become an honorable mention in that tier.
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You know, I, I think that the NFL's— you don't,
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you don't see as many 400-yard passing games anymore. You don't see as many
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5, 6 touchdown games. Joe Burrow, on the other hand, that guy just keeps doing
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it, but It's what happens when you have the best wide receiver room in the
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NFL. I cannot believe
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how the progression he has had also while missing 3 games
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this year, which is crazy to think.
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And he's still going to put up numbers we used to pray for
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out of a Bears quarterback. And he's still got some rust on him. I mean,
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think about it. The guy has only played in, what, 5 games
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this year? 4.5 games technically this year. Or is it 5.5? Whatever you want to
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put. Yeah, it'd be 4.5 games, right? Because he won game number
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1, got hurt game number 2, and then he's what, 2 and— he's
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3-0 since coming back. Yeah. So yeah, I mean,
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you look at that and you're like, he's doing this. He's had
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3 games less than everybody else who's really shaken off the
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rust and done a good job. But it's also how he's connecting. And Swifty,
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you talked about this earlier, like how this team is set up for the future.
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So many guys under contract. He's got Colson Loveland this season with 3 more after.
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He's got Luther Burden for at least 2 more after this one.
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He's got Rome Odunze for at least 2 more after this one. I mean,
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shoot, you got everybody, all of his targets,
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Kyle Minungu on this roster for 2 years after this year. You got DeAndre
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Swift, who's got 3 years after this year. I mean, these guys are all together.
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This offensive line has the future on it, the present,
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the future, and soon to be the past because we got some veterans
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on it. But they're doing a really good job. And they, they built this thing,
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and that's what's going to make Caleb
great. You look at Tom Brady, he had
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what, Wes Welker for 12 seasons? He had Gronk for 12 seasons.
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You keep a core together,
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and that's what's so special. So Swifty, I'm really happy that you brought that up
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earlier. And also, this is what it takes to be elite, and Ryan Poles saw
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that too, because now that you have your offense kind of set up,
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you can just pile drive bringing in great defenders year in
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and year out. And that's what the Patriots did. That's what the the Chiefs did,
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and that's what winning organizations do. So I'm really excited about Keke.
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I'm gonna go back to you real quick. I know I threw a lot out
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there, but is there anything else that you want to add in regards to Caleb
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Williams' gameplay? You know, got a couple more minutes here. We want to talk about
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him before we get into our sponsor in the final 2, uh, episodes— 2 segments.
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Yeah, and I, and I think to Swift's point, just saying that, that he still
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hasn't reached his ceiling, right? And there's just so many layers to the Chicago
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Bears offense. I think you, you think you have this Bears offense figured out,
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and then you don't. Right? I think Seattle had a game plan, and I,
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I think, I think someone said it best. I think it was an analyst,
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um, on a show. They're like, you know, you can call the perfect defense and
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Caleb still beats you, right? He's, he's on that type of tier. Only, only a
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certain number of quarterbacks are able to dissect defenses the way that Caleb Williams
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does, right? So, um, I just want to let Bears fans know, enjoy it.
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And I actually want to say a public apology to myself as well. I was
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actually in my house today saying I'm an idiot forever not wanting this kid.
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Right? Yeah, I know, I know I'm just being a loyal Bears fan at the
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time, but, but there was a time where I was like, oh, I don't want
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this kid, right? I believed all the narratives about him, and I feel terrible about
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it now because he has been— he, he has changed everything about
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this organization. And even him last night in his press conference, it was just like,
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you know, I want to make Bears fans proud to support this
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team. And it literally made me a little bit emotional when he said that because
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we've been through everything, right? Through many different quarterbacks and many
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trials and tribulations, and, and he has changed everything and the belief,
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uh, in this city. By far the most mature 24-year-old
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you'll ever meet in your entire life at this point, at least. You know,
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when I'm— you know, I was out Halloween weekend running around the city of
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Chicago, and you could tell who's, you know, around my age,
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29, 30, and then you got the kids out on the block,
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first big paychecks party, and it's like Oh, and then
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you're like, dang, you're the same age as Caleb Williams. Like, it's, it's crazy.
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So, you know, he's truly become a leader of men, and he's
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just such a young guy still. And it's crazy that we could have 16 more
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years of him with how quarterback longevity is going. I mean,
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you're gonna have people, kids that are— and Keek,
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also, I agree with you. I admit I was wrong on Caleb Williams too.
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Um, you have people that are going to be born this year, and when
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Caleb Williams retired, they're gonna be driving cars. Cars, or if they're flying cars at
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that point. But it's just crazy how bright this future
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looks for this Bears team and how exciting it is.
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And there's so much change happening right now. Like, this franchise has
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moved in a much better direction, so I'm really, really excited about it. I know
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Swift is too. Uh, guys, before we get more into today's show, because we're gonna
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look at that 2026 outlook, we don't want to get too ahead of ourselves.
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Now let's get back to the video. All right, well, thank you to
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of him and how excited we are. Let's get into a
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little bit more about yesterday's game and what it meant for this impact
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for the rest of the season. I mean, Bears shot up to number 5 on
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Fox Sports power rankings. I think they should be number 1,
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in my opinion. But, you know, can't win it all. And also,
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the Bears are now nearly top 10 in every single major category on both
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offense, defense, and special teams. Like we talked about, the progression of
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Caleb Williams, defense playing a lot better. And you
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got through arguably the thickest part of your schedule that isn't
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in regards to the NFC North. At 6-2,
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you're in second place half a game out. You really could be in first if
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that game didn't go the way it did against Minnesota. I mean, this season the
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Bears control their own destiny. I know it's a little bit early to say that,
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but they really, really do. And looking at the schedule,
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you have the Bucs coming up this Sunday night, another primetime game,
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3 primetime games in a row for this team, by the way. And then finally
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it chills out with the Saints Following that there in Chicago after the
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bye week. Then you have Detroit on Thanksgiving,
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Jacksonville back at home, Miami,
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Buffalo, and then you end off with 3 games in a row against the NFC
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North. And shoot, with how the North is going, with how this team is playing,
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anything's possible. And we saw the comment earlier saying that people might not think
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the Bears could lose anymore. Keith, I'm going to start with you on this one.
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We got a couple of interesting games in the Bucs and Saints coming
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up here. How are you feeling for not only the
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short-term but the long-term future of this season? Yeah, I think this team's focus is
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just going 1-0 every single week. You know, even when they asked Caleb last night,
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was like, hey, what is the outlook for the rest of the season? He's like,
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just getting 1% better every day. He would not say that they are a Super
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Bowl contender, and that's the mindset. They're not looking ahead on Tampa Bay, they're not
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looking ahead on the Saints. They believe that any given Sunday that you can be
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beat, so they have to put their best foot forward every week. And I'm trying
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to keep that same mentality, right? I think it's It's, it's easy for Bears fans.
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We haven't experienced this, experienced this in a long time, um, to instantly say we're
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Super Bowl contenders, and it's okay to have that feeling. But when you're looking at
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this football team, they just want to be 1-0 every single week. And you know,
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when you're looking at the schedule, I actually love how it's set up, right,
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with these tough matchups, because these last couple of weeks have been
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playoff atmosphere type of games. So not only in
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our own division are we beating each other up, talking about the Vikings, Packers,
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Lions, right? We're playing these tough games against top defenses, right? So this team if
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they can get into the playoffs, which that's the expectation, they will be battle-tested and
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ready for anything when we get into those later months and trying to make that
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run for the Super Bowl. Yeah, and you know, injuries are
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going to happen, so there's going to be impacts to this team as well,
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but other teams too. We haven't even gone through the trade deadline,
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but with how this team has progressed— I mean, you have beaten the Carolina Panthers,
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you crushed them, put a 59-burger on them. You almost beat the Minnesota Vikings,
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who are first in the division. The Eagles and the Jets at the time were
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looking promising. We're not going to talk about the Green Bay game,
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but you go to Atlanta, you do a good job there, you beat the Patriots
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and the Seahawks, both back-to-back Super Bowl
opponents. I mean,
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this team is doing great things. But you know what? You have the
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right mentality. And that's what I think is totally
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true, is that just win every week and
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worry about the next following game. Treat every game the same. That you want to
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go out there and win. And I think that's what's really important. Swifty, I'm going
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to kick it over to you real quick in regards to, you know, kind of
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what we were reviewing in the 2026 season. How are you feeling so far,
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man? We're set up perfectly right now. We're a little bit banged up.
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It's only a couple of guys. And headed into this bye week,
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if we can get through the Buccaneers game, stay relatively healthy,
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get even healthier over that bye, this team is in a perfect
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position to go on a run. And fortunately or unfortunately,
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however you look at it, they got to keep winning because the NFC North
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is on a historic run here. I, I remember people
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were laughing at me when I said this the best division in football in the
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offseason. Now here they are, the only team in NFL
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history 8 weeks into the season to have
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every single team at least 2 games over .500.
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This division is stacked, and the only teams they're losing
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to are their division opponents. Vikings' only
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loss is the Lions. Bears' only loss— they've
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lost to the Vikings and the Packers. It's, it's similar. The Packers the
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same way. And it's crazy, we are dominating
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every other team we play that's not in our division.
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This division is a gauntlet, and we got to keep winning to keep
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up pace because even with this record and how we're playing,
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we're still not in first place because the Vikings— who I'm not
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that scared of the Vikings right now, I think they have a lot of holes
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on that roster, but if they keep winning,
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they can, they can take the North. Now they got to come through Chicago though
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at some point. So yeah, but let you know what, I want to talk
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about that real quick, the Vikings schedule, because they just lost
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to Detroit. Yeah, they're, I mean, they're a good ball club, but They got a
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really tough schedule coming up here. At least the Bears have a little bit of
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breathing room, to say the least. But they got the
Bills
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on Monday Night Football, they got the Packers after, which that's
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a toss-up right there. Last place in the NFC North, by the way. Love to
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say that. Um, you got the 49ers who are leading the NFC
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West at the moment. Keith's dying right now. I love it.
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Uh, you got the— I love how you could just poke fun at the,
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the Packers. Any chance we get, we like to poke fun at the backers.
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I love it. Yeah, just beat Green Bay sucks chants in
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Seattle. Can you believe that? I'm happy we
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did it also at a more appropriate moment versus
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when a guy was down in Atlanta. I know we took a little bit of
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a break after that. We're like, did you, did you hear the story? I did
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see there were— it was on social media. I just, I happened to run and
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find it randomly. There was some guy on Instagram who was at that game
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and he showed pictures. Apparently the chants didn't
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have to do— it had nothing to do with the injury. What happened
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was there was a random Packers fan at that game
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who was holding up a sign that said Bears sucks
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and pointing it towards the fans. And this was in the break,
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a break of the game. So they saw this guy standing up
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waving a sign and they just started— it was just a small section that
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started chanting Green Bay sucks. And then there were so many Bears fans that
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it just grew throughout the stadium, but it was really pointed at one
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Packer fan. And I think people kind of ran with that a little bit
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out of context and took it wrong. But what would be— what would be
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content creation without, you know, doing that, right? Like, yeah, that's how it is.
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It is how it is. But yeah, I— that's
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a good story, to say the least, first of all. Um, but yeah, Green Bay's
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in last place, but they're a toss-up there. But you still got the Niners,
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you got the Falcons. Then you got the Panthers, then you got the Patriots,
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and then you got the Lions, the Commanders. So like
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Minnesota is— so we play
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Minnesota January 10th for the last game of the season, but their 2 games before
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look like they're winnable. But they have a tough, you know, 6-game,
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7-game stretch right here. Minnesota, I mean,
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shoot, you lose even half of those, you're in
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46:25.652
trouble. You know, like, and the Bears, the way they're progressing,
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are looking really good. This— you can't stop, though. You have to be playing this
46:29.764 --> 46:33.121
dominating football week in and week out. If the Bears
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can walk into Thanksgiving at 8-2,
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so winning 2 more, and that means that they would be on a 5-game winning
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streak. I think that gives you enough confidence. You walk into Detroit
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and that's going to be a juggernaut showdown. And I think it's going to be
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a lot of fun, too. Um, Keek, I want to go over to you real
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quick. Thoughts a little bit deeper into anything
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you're worried about for the rest of this season in regards to opponents? I mean,
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I'm very confident in this team, but you can't win them all. So I really
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want to hear your thoughts on the rest of the season. Yeah, I just want
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them to find a way to at least split their division games, right? I think
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last year we were able to win the division with a record of 2 and—
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was it only 2 wins in the division last year? I think it was like
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2 and— I don't know, it's 2 and 6 or something like that. Uh,
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2-4. You play 6 divisions. Sick brain
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right now, my apologies. But yeah, all this wood is still there,
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folks, right? It's still here, it's still here, it's still here. But 2-4 in the
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division, I would love to see them split their games, which, which I think they
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will, right? I, I think, you know, you look at the Green Bay Packers,
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they still come through Chicago with, with Caleb, with Minungai, and now
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Jeffrey Simmons in the fold. Um, I think you can, you know, make some arguments
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that in Minnesota it's gonna be a great game. And I know Ben Johnson has
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Detroit circled on his calendar, you know, being swept last year. He wants one of
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those games as well. So I think if you can split those division games,
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I think the Bears will be fine. And I, and I say that because you're,
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you're being battle-tested. Every game that you play within the NFC North is like playing
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a playoff game at that point. And I think that's why the NFC North's having
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so much success outside of the division, because we're sitting here beating each other up,
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right? So when you would go out there and play the Seattle Seahawks, all respect
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given, or, or even when the Minnesota Vikings played the 49ers, they're going to play
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them tough. Because of who they have to play week in and week out within
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this NFC North. Oh yeah. I mean, it's no
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easy task for the Bears at the end facing all 3 NFC North opponents.
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Swifty, anything else you want to say on the 2026 outlook before we get into
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the final topic of trade and free agent targets? Yeah,
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that Bills game is the one I would have circled on there. I think that's
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going to be the next huge test. What does Josh Allen do
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against this defense? How does Caleb look in the primetime?
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DJ Moore making his return. That's, that's going to be a big one
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in that Thanksgiving game as well. But I would love to see Caleb against
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Mahomes. I'm ready for that too, but it's not on the schedule, guys. Oh,
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it could be, could be on Valentine's Day. Just putting that
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out there, just putting that out there. I hope no one has plans because we
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all might be busy that day. Everyone tell your ladies, oh sorry,
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you want to go out for dinner? Uh, you gotta do it the day before
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or the day after. I wouldn't even do it the day before. I'd be like
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Shoot, we'll give it a try next
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week. Uh, but anyway, yeah, let's get into that last topic— trade
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targets. Trade deadline's coming up here next week. I believe it's
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the 12th, uh, or right, the— I think the
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NFL trade deadline, the 10th. It's a 10th. Oh, it's a week from today.
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Yes. Okay, so, you know, Bears will be on a bye week at that point,
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um, after this week. So that's pretty intense right there. But yeah,
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you know, the NFL trade deadline ends at 1 PM Swifty—
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or excuse me, Keeks time, 4 PM Swifty time, 3 PM Central
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for the Bears. Look at that, give me all the different— we're across 3
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time zones, by the way, guys. Organizing this show, a lot of fun. Um,
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but we got a lot of trade targets. You know, we, we could
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talk about Khalil Mack. We can talk about that one. That's an easy one.
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Everyone wants that to happen. I feel, I feel like tomorrow the fatigue's gonna start
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kicking in. Like, is it happening? Is it not? Kind of deal. Unless we hear
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like Schefter be like, deep talks, it's like, oh shit, here we go again.
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Like, come on baby, uh, just fire Harbaugh if they— if
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they're not willing
to do it, just fire him. We need Mac back, baby.
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Yeah, stop holding them hostage, please. Okay, so free Mac. Um,
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not— well, free Big Macs would be good too, but let's, let's, let's talk
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about some of these targets. So I'm gonna name a few guys Let's start off
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with Nashon Wright. Brendan Shugrue tweeted out that he knows someone
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close to the situation. Wright hasn't asked for a trade, but he would— he does
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want to leave, or he want to come back to the Bears if that's a
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possibility. Keith, thoughts on Nashon Wright maybe
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coming back? Yeah, I think it'll be cheap. I think you can get away maybe
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getting like a 7th round pick, maybe like a pick swap situation. Um, you know,
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you think about what he was able to do last year, uh, 5 interceptions,
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2 force fumbles all around the football. I always call Nashon Wright like kind
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of like a boom-or-bust corner, like it's either getting a turnover or he's getting burnt
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downfield, right? But I do think like if you're able to win with 4,
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like getting consistent pressure on the quarterback, maybe Nashon Wright with
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his measurables and ball hawk abilities would fit fine here. And you know,
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as I look at it, it couldn't be any worse than Tyreek Stevenson and Jaylen
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Johnson at this point, bringing in some competition and kind of putting pressure
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on guys like JJ and Tyreek well to perform at a high level.
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Well, okay, I like that one. I agree, I agree with all your points.
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My, my thing is, Swifty, I'm gonna go over to you real quick because I'm
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sure it might complete my entire thought. Half my thought is there with Keek right
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now. Want to hear your thoughts on potentially N'Shawn Wright coming back.
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Um, I'd be okay with it, but I don't want to give up anything.
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Keek said pick swap, and there was one I saw that was floated out there
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that, hey, we'll give you guys a 6th round pick Jets,
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you give us a 7th back. And then honestly, that could
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turn out to be pretty much nothing because we could be picking at the bottom
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of the 6th and they're at the top of the 7th. That's only a
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5-6 pick difference there depending on where they land. So other
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than that, I don't want to give up much for Nayshawn Wright. We let him
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go for a reason. Dennis Allen and Ryan
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Poles and company, they
didn't— and Al Harris as well— didn't
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think he was worth $5 million. Obviously,
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if we would have matched what he signed for in New York, he would have
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rather played here, but we, we didn't offer that.
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We didn't want him back. Now things have changed a little bit. JJ hasn't
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got back to form, Tyreek's not having a big year, and we,
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we got some injuries in the secondary as well. If Al Harris
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and Dennis Allen want him back, I'm fine, but don't give
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up hardly anything for that guy because It's not worth
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it. So, so let me cook real quick right here. Let me, let me put
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my Ryan Poles hat on. All right, in regards to Wright,
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I think last year the numbers are undeniable. 80 tackles, 5 interceptions,
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11 pass deflections, 2 forced fumbles, and 3 fumble recoveries.
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I mean, the guy was a stat sheet stuffer. Do I agree that
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he was burned? Yes. But also you got to remember it was a much different
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linebacker room and a different safety room. You didn't have Dylan Thieneman back there.
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You didn't have Cam Lewis back there. You, you know, we'll talk about another potential
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safety in a second, or Jeffrey Simmons. Like, you have
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a completely different team that's going to get more pressure and less throws. And also,
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he knows this scheme because that was his first year in Dennis Allen's scheme as
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well. Now that he knows it, he knows the little details. They bring him back
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and shoot, bam, plug in right there. I thought he got better as the season
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went on. And a Pro Bowler, you can't deny. So I think that, you know,
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getting him for a 7th would be a steal. And we owe him I think,
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Swifty, you're gonna like this— only $1.51 million for
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the rest of the season. So that's my take right there. Then you also have
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Alonte Taylor, who, former New Orleans Saint,
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is down in Tennessee. Maybe was involved in the conversations as well
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when we were talking to Jeffrey for Jeffrey Simmons. Bears were
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in deep talks with the Saints last year. A lot of people don't remember.
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Ian Rapoport tweeted it out. For Taylor,
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for Dennis Allen, which the last season together in 2024,
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6 sacks, multiple interceptions, over 15
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pass deflections. I mean, that's a guy that you bring in and his contract is
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nearly the exact same as Jaylon Johnson. You could do a straight-up swap right there
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because Tennessee's scheme is a lot better for Jaylon Johnson's playing type because
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it's similar to Matt Eberflus's defense versus what they have here.
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It could work out for both parties. So that's an option right there.
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Swift, I'm gonna go to you because you're thinking about it, man. I, I really
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like Alontae Taylor. I think he knows Dennis Allen's
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system well. You knocked that one on the head. And Dennis Allen knows him very
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well. He was the guy who drafted him and brought him to New Orleans,
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and he had his best success of his career there. So if DA
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is in, I do think you might have hit, hit on
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that a little bit, that we can't afford to just trade for Alontae
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Taylor because he did just sign that big free agent contract
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with the Titans, right? And if you, if you send JJ
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their way though, suddenly we can afford it. So yeah, you do have to
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clear some space up there by either restructuring Montez Sweat or trading away
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JJ. But I, I think he's a good player. I,
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I think he's, especially with this defense and the talent
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we have on it, I think Taylor would fit pretty well, and I'm, I'm all
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for Taylor if, if you can get him for a late-round pick. Or maybe
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throw JJ in there, a guy who I love, JJ, but I think the odds
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right now of him being back next year, they're getting lower every
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single time he gets burnt like a piece of
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toast. And JSN made him look like
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a practice squad player last night. I was embarrassed by
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JJ trying to cover him, and then Tyreek looked even worse, and I was like,
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what are we doing out here, man? Yeah, I mean, shoot, both their stocks are
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going down more than my 401k around the midterms, which everybody go out and vote.
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Anyway, Keek, let's go over to you real quick. Alontae Taylor, thoughts on him
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potentially coming to Chicago? Yeah, I'm right on with Swift as well. I think if
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you're gonna bring in Alontae Taylor, you got to give a player up like Jaylen
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Johnson because of the fact of his big contract— 3 years,
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$60 million, $20 million annually. It just wouldn't work in our cap
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space right now. But But in terms of scheme fit and familiarity with,
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uh, D.A., he had some of
his best years in, in that stretch from 2022
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to 2024, um, with the Saints. I guess my only concern is because I was
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actually kind of reading on it a little bit about Alontae Taylor, and I know
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the Bears were interested in him last year as well at the trade deadline.
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The problem is that D.A. also primarily played him in New Orleans as
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a nickel. I know he's kind of been struggling on the outside, um, so that,
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that would be really intriguing to me to see like if they would move him
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outside or how they would kind of navigate that because we all know that Kyler
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is our nickel. Um, so that would be my only question
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on how they would use him if they were able to get Taylor here to
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Chicago. Sure. Oh yeah, no, I mean, like, he definitely is more of a blitzing
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defensive back. That's why you have quarterback hit sacks and all those type of stats.
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But his coverage game isn't terrible. I think that it would be better than what
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we have right now, and it would allow Malik Muhammad and maybe even
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some other changes too. I, I do want to say this. I saw some people
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talk about Budda Baker And that contract is just not worth it.
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And with Kobe Bryant too, I just kind of want to shut that one down.
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Do you guys have any thoughts on maybe— do you guys think differently? Are you
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guys same page? Not those 2, but I do think you could maybe bring
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in a safety because I'm not, I'm not sure that Kobe Bryant's
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going to be healthy that soon. A lot of people are like, he's going to
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be ready in December. It's like Ben Johnson was just asked about it
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and he didn't even say for sure that Kobe's going to be back this
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year. I know he's walking, but look, Ozzy Trepillo
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was walking without a knee brace in April. We're 7 months
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past that and he's still not fully game ready.
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So I don't want to rush Kobe Bryant back. I think
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this defense would be even better and different with Kobe Bryant out there, but the
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Bears know more about it. And if they don't think Kobe's going to be ready
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before the regular season, Because you don't want him coming out there getting
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his first action in a playoff game where it's lose or
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go home and he can cost you the season. That's the last thing I want
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to hear is fans bashing Kobe Bryant all year. So the names
you mentioned,
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no, but maybe a guy like Amani Hooker on the Titans or
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Jesse Bates, who is a stud, but I also believe he's
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in the last year of his contract with the Falcons. Good rental if
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you can get a rental at safety. To come in and fill that void
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until Kobe gets back. And even if it's someone who can play
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with Kobe, because we know DA is not afraid to use 3
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safeties. We haven't really had 3 quality safeties since he's been here,
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but DA is capable of doing that. He's ran a lot of 3-safety
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looks in the past. So depending on who it is, I'm not against
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it. All right, this is a bit— this is a million-dollar question because, you know,
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Twitter and a lot of folks went up in flames about this one. CJ Gardner-Johnson
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just became a free agent. And you know what, Swifty, I saw that look,
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but let me, let me talk to you real quick. Let me, let's hear it.
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Let me paint a picture for you, a beautiful picture, okay? Like CJ
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Gardner-Johnson— yeah, I'm not gonna do my Trump impression, I promise.
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I'm not gonna do it tonight. I'm not gonna do it tonight. But Woodmutter might
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go through, okay? Let's do it, bro. Don't do it. It's very ugly
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and nasty. Okay, here we go. So CJ Gardner-Johnson— you
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guys have to laugh at that. Okay, so anyway, CJ Gardner-Johnson was
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released by the Bills after even serving his 1-game
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suspension. So he's good to go. All good. CJ Garner-Johnson
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this year with the Buffalo Bills has 26 tackles, 2 pass deflections,
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an interception. All right. Not great stats. In 10
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games last year with the Chicago Bears in the regular
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season, he had 51 total tackles, 5 tackles for loss, 5 quarterback
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hits, 4 pass deflections, 3 sacks, and 2 interceptions
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as a safety/nickel. Now, you would— this is
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kind of where it can break down. Cam Lewis, who's been playing really
01:00:01.938 --> 01:00:05.054
good ball, has to play that safety position because we got rid of Xavier
01:00:05.554 --> 01:00:09.134
Woods and Elijah Hicks doesn't have that starting or doesn't have that starting style that
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:12.781
Dennis Allen's looking for. You can move Cam Lewis over to the cornerback
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position for Tyreek Stevenson or Jaylen Johnson. CJ Gardner-Johnson,
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who knows this defense, knows this locker room, can come in and play safety.
01:00:20.796 --> 01:00:23.907
While Kobe Bryant's out. And like you said,
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um, it's just overall very, very— there's a lot of
01:00:29.857 --> 01:00:33.305
possibilities there because he knows the scheme. So Swifty, I painted
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you that picture, but I want to start with Keek real quick. Keek, thoughts on
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CJ Garner-Johnson coming back potentially? No capital,
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nothing. What are your thoughts? I don't actually hate the move.
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I think with CJ Garner-Johnson, he's just sometimes a knucklehead. I'm just gonna
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put it softly. Sometimes he just does stuff that can kill his team.
01:00:53.191 --> 01:00:56.495
It comes maybe from passion as well. But I do, I do feel like he
01:00:56.995 --> 01:00:58.900
played really well last year. You kind of make the same argument when you're talking
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about, uh, Nashon Wright, right? It's a different defense, right? We have different safeties,
01:01:02.589 --> 01:01:06.005
we have different linebackers, we now have Jeffrey Simmons. So maybe that would,
01:01:06.037 --> 01:01:09.549
would help his production as well here in Chicago. So I think, I think
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if the money is right, um, and I think if he wants to come back
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to Chicago now that they're officially Super Bowl contenders, which I believe he would have
01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:19.667
some interest I, I wouldn't hate the move. Is it, is it my top
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option right now? Absolutely not. But I don't think it's the worst option
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you can think of as well when you're looking at options out there. So just
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to answer your question, this year the Bears would only owe him $2.3 million more.
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Next year they would only owe him $1 million. He was cut, so his
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contract is, is ripped up, so you could sign him to a veteran minimum.
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Sorry, excuse me, that is dead cap. You are correct.
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Yeah, you are correct. Hands up. Hand up on me. Yeah, since he's cut,
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you could sign him for less than a million dollars for the rest
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of the year. So I don't mind it if we're going into what we were
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just talking about, to bring him in for safety depth,
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especially if, if you're not sure Kobe's going to be ready.
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I don't know about Cam Lewis playing outside corner.
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I don't think I've seen any tape of him doing that. He's decent in the
01:02:06.904 --> 01:02:10.638
nickel, and I think he's a good safety. But I, I think Gardner— CJ
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Gardner-Johnson,
if you can bring him in as your 3rd safety and have
01:02:15.295 --> 01:02:18.566
him as an emergency in case Thenaman or Cam Lewis get
01:02:19.066 --> 01:02:22.210
hurt, I'm fine with it. Okay, all right.
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So the other thing too I do want to hit on real quick is,
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Keek, you were saying it— you're over here— you were saying it in
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regards to him being a little bit of a knucklehead. I felt like he was
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most well-behaved with the Bears. I don't remember any knucklehead moments
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last year. Dennis Allen and Ben Johnson looked at him and said, okay,
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we're gonna give you an opportunity. One mess up, you're gone.
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That, that had to be the conversation. Keek, does that change
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your mindset a little bit on it? Do you agree, disagree? Yeah, yeah,
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yeah, I'm totally fine with it coming back, right? I think you have leaders in
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this locker room now, Jeffrey Simmons, that can, you know, put him in his place
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if he gets out of line. I don't think he's gonna, you know, try to
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go after Jeffrey Simmons. I think that'd be the wrong move there.
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Don't mess with Big Jeff. Yeah, and you have to understand that he also has
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a Super Bowl background, right? He's, he's been a part of Super Bowl champion teams,
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right? So I think it would be a good move in terms of making
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a push for the big dance. But Swift makes a, a great
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point. You only make a move if you're 100% sure that Kobe Bryant
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is not returning this season. Yeah, because I don't want him
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at nickel. He got cooked Like KO said, man, he got straight
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toasted at nickel. So I'd rather have— we got Kyler
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Gordon, we got Malik Muhammad, Clark Phillips, and Cam Lewis—
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4 guys who could play nickel. So the only reason I'm even thinking about CJ
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Gardner-Johnson is at safety, where he's a little bit better and
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he doesn't have to guard guys one-on-one. I'd look at him at safety
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for sure, especially if you don't want to rush Kobe back.
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And we're just unsure where he is right now. But yeah, I wouldn't be
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against it. All right. All right. Well, we got all— we got way
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more news coming next week. In fact, Monday night when we're back
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on our regular scheduled programming, we'll be back right
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before the trade deadline. We'll be back after Sunday Night Football. We'll have a ton
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to talk about that. But we also will be back this Friday for preview
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of Bears versus Bucs. But guys, before we close out,
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Keek, anything you want to say before we close out today's show? No, just enjoy
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the moment, you know, just enjoy being a Bears fan right now. I, I will
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say that we deserve this. My Wood Meter is at a 3 times 12 right
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now. I don't, I don't even know. I don't, I don't, I'm not good at
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math. I think that's— you can't do math right now. I think it's 36
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woods. And I do want to make a big announcement that I will be in
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Chi-Town this weekend for the Bears versus Bucs matchup, so I'm definitely looking
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forward to it. Yes. All right. All right. Well, we'll try to get together,
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Keek. I know I get back from Atlanta from a wedding at like noon on
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Saturday, so I'll keep you in mind when it comes to that. So can't wait
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to see you in Chicago. Swift, anything you want to say to the folks before
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we close out? Special time to be a Bears fan, guys. Hit that like button.
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Join the ride with us. It's going to be fun. This team is special.
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Bear down, man. Keep that wood up. And thank you guys for tuning in to
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this episode of Bears Roundtable presented by Roundtable Sports. My name is Nick Rodi along
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with Keek. And Swift. We'll see you guys soon,
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and as always, we want to hear it loud and proud. Bear down,