النص الكامل لحلقة A Conversation Worth Having

helped take it down. 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:26.879 Yeah. 00:03:27.039 --> 00:03:27.520 Last night. 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:29.919 That was a new experience for me. 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:33.120 What time uh what time did the tailgate wrap up last night? 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:40.639 I was dog tired from being there about a little before six yesterday, uh, to be out in the field and getting it swept and all that happy stuff. 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:49.360 And then um yeah, I was home for like 40 minutes to shower, have a little bit of lunch, and came back and it was a long day with three o'clock kickoff. 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:50.159 Yeah, a long day. 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:50.800 It was a long day. 00:03:50.960 --> 00:03:52.560 Well, what time did the Iowa game start? 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:53.360 6 30. 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:53.520 All right. 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:54.560 So it was done before then. 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:55.360 Oh, really? 00:03:55.680 --> 00:03:55.919 Okay. 00:03:56.159 --> 00:04:03.039 I I mean I mean the uh porta party was put away and I'd taken the gridiron stuff down by then. 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:05.680 It felt like it was nine because it was dark, you know. 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:06.800 Well, yeah, I mean this. 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:08.000 Jeez. 00:04:08.240 --> 00:04:08.960 Yeah, a little cold. 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:15.439 But uh there were still uh there were still some tents, but it was coming down, and I think a lot of them were going out to shooters. 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:18.480 Yep, go out and yeah, it felt like it was nine o'clock. 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:19.519 It was it wasn't even seven. 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:20.079 I got home. 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:20.720 Well, that's not true. 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:22.480 I got home a little after seven, I guess. 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:24.560 I don't know what time the Iowa game wrapped up. 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:30.959 I was just I watched that and as soon as it was over, off to bed, collapse, and uh go back to the locker room. 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:32.720 What'd you find there? 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:41.839 Uh well uh jer dirty uh uniforms and uh and yeah, some just yeah, a lot of laundry. 00:04:41.920 --> 00:04:50.160 Um the old travel bags had to get reorganized so that we could get those put away because uh yeah, they started collecting the young men's things. 00:04:50.399 --> 00:05:01.839 Well, at least the stuff that was issued to them helmets, shoulder pads, knee pads, you know, practice jerseys, practice pants, whatever social security card, maybe absolutely whatever cash happens to be laying around. 00:05:02.079 --> 00:05:02.399 Yep. 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:04.160 Ran across a little bit of everything, you know. 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:06.959 Yeah, you know, yeah, you just find a lot of stuff. 00:05:07.040 --> 00:05:07.759 It stinks. 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:11.040 You know, sometimes somebody and that doesn't happen so much anymore. 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:13.199 You know, you don't find as many dirty socks. 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:13.519 Yeah. 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:16.079 They just kind of fester down in the bottom of a locker. 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:16.319 Yeah. 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:17.439 Yeah, that's gross. 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:19.920 Um but yeah, so it's always interesting, you know. 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:25.120 Day after you do a documentary of your day after experience. 00:05:25.279 --> 00:05:41.279 We should does the documentary start right now, the day after the the season, and uh with uh we could we could start the doc we could yeah, we could start the rise from the ashes, you know, you know, and yeah that chasing that first victory. 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:44.079 We're at 34 consecutive losses. 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:53.120 Um we had Coach Denadio and I were talking today, you know, we've we're we're 30 0 and 30 in the in the G Pack um throw in the St. 00:05:53.199 --> 00:06:01.120 Francis game three years ago, and um, and then in the 2023 season we lost the final three games. 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:02.319 Wow, great. 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:05.360 So we're at uh at 0-34. 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:07.360 That's pretty impressive, actually, and you think about it. 00:06:07.519 --> 00:06:13.600 Yeah, well, you gotta get to as like it was like Prairie View AM or something like that, had more than 80 consecutives. 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:14.720 We're not gonna do that. 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:16.000 No, gosh, no. 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:26.319 You know, the uh had the opportunity uh today's Sunday that we're recording this, went to the final team meeting, and you know, the seniors were all able to to get up and say a little something. 00:06:26.399 --> 00:06:29.759 And most of them were about, you know, this is this is the time, you know. 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:34.800 I we're sorry that we couldn't be here for turning this program around, but it's going in the right direction. 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:38.000 So here in the final meeting. 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:39.839 And this is a Sunday, like you said. 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:40.000 Yeah. 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:40.319 Yeah. 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:45.680 So they got to get up in front of their uh their teammates and their coaches and just kind of dump it out there. 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:46.639 So it's good stuff. 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:47.360 That is good. 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:48.160 Yeah, yeah. 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:48.639 Yep. 00:06:48.800 --> 00:07:05.839 Yeah, it's I mean, I don't know how the you know that uh the team seems to have I mean they they seem to have a fairly good attitude about it, but maybe that's just because they're around, you know, when they if I interact with them, they they know who who I am. 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:17.920 You know, the guy that finds a you know stuff to say uh positively every Wednesday night, you know, for the last couple of years, and uh they know who you are and that you're on the podcast and the various

things that you do. 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:19.199 And so I don't know. 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:34.240 I mean, I don't know if they talk to one another and they feel more I'm sure they're frustrated, you know, like any team that hasn't won, but it seems like they were still, you know, chugging away, and it wasn't like we got to the end of the season and people are like throwing helmets or being idiots, and none of that happened. 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:38.480 And so uh and I could understand how it would, but I mean we didn't see that. 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:49.439 So um if they're into the you know, I I you know getting the work done and keeping keep building, then that's what they're supposed to be, and and that's good. 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:52.720 So absolutely, you know, it doesn't change for us. 00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:56.000 What you know, whether you win or lose, the gridiron club's the gridiron club. 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:57.120 That's right, that's right. 00:07:57.199 --> 00:08:00.800 And so we uh yeah, it was you know, Saturday was an emotional day. 00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:14.480 You know, for me, I I've been around to watch these kids come in and you know watch them develop as players and and more importantly as people, and you just you know, that group, uh, you know, and it's the same every year. 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:18.480 Yeah, you know, you know, you're you're trying to like, okay, I I got this. 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:22.639 And I usually just I was standing down, kind of directing me, like, you gotta come down here, guys. 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:24.720 Come down here and stand so people can look at you. 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:27.279 And and uh started with Keunty Carter. 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:29.519 And uh, yep, nope, couldn't do it. 00:08:29.759 --> 00:08:30.800 Yeah, yep, no. 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:33.519 Get you every time, every time. 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:34.080 Yeah. 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:42.639 Uh you have a good, you know, your close relationship with them all, uh with all of the players, because you get to see them a lot more than than I do. 00:08:42.720 --> 00:08:44.559 And we talked about that on last week's podcast. 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:45.200 You bet. 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:45.840 And all of that. 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:47.679 So it's fun to interact with them. 00:08:47.840 --> 00:09:04.879 And um, you know, like I said when I read their scripts at the end, I just hope that you know, thanks to the parents for letting us have your kids this long, and I hope that wherever they go, that they, you know, that the time that they spend here will help them develop and be successful in whatever it is that they do, and I think it will. 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:22.399 Um, so now I didn't really listen yesterday, but uh Coach Callaway said at the team meeting today that uh um he he presented uh Chris Broy his jersey and gave him the opportunity to address the team and said, You know, you have changed things at Waldorf. 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:27.919 Matter of fact, we're gonna limit the amount of words that you get to write for your senior send-off. 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:29.759 Apparently that was long. 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:30.799 Yeah, it was very long. 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:32.080 Yeah, his was uh fine. 00:09:32.320 --> 00:09:35.840 It was a very yeah uh it was a very nice sentiment that he wrote. 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:47.440 And uh he he he shared uh uh a personal experience and was grateful to a professor for encouraging him during that time while he was at Waldorf uh in school and in athletics. 00:09:47.759 --> 00:09:51.600 And uh so it was great to hear that. 00:09:51.840 --> 00:09:52.799 It was long. 00:09:54.000 --> 00:10:14.399 And again, I didn't, but it wasn't I assumed that it had been uh that everything that was on the senior scripts, the 17 scripts that we had, that were the the 17 parts because that's how many we recognized, I assumed that they had been uh edited and reviewed by somebody. 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:18.240 Somebody before it got to me, because it's not like they were reporting to me. 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:26.240 I received it from Okay, you know, some the AD's office, and I assumed that it had gone through coach and and all of that. 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:30.960 And so then so whatever that was in those paragraphs was to me the final version. 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:32.080 It wasn't mine to cut. 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:33.679 That was the approved version. 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:35.519 Yeah, yeah. 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:36.399 You thought. 00:10:36.559 --> 00:10:38.639 Yeah, and uh again, I maybe it was. 00:10:38.879 --> 00:10:44.240 I if I'm being completely honest, you know, I'm standing out there where I can hear everything, but I didn't hear anything. 00:10:44.480 --> 00:10:46.320 Yeah, it's like a wedding, you know. 00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:47.440 Yeah, that's true. 00:10:47.519 --> 00:11:04.559 You know, it's like all I I think I try to just kind of soak up that moment of watching that young man that you've seen for so many years, you know, just take that last trip across the field and be able to embrace him and just tell them that you love him and you're proud of him and all the good stuff. 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:06.559 Um, you know, feel all the feels. 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:12.559 Yeah, and you didn't even realize that that I was still talking about the same guy while that was happening for you. 00:11:12.879 --> 00:11:13.759 Yeah, that's true. 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:20.559 Uh and again, I apologize, I guess, Troy, but Jeremiah Heard had the longest list of guests that he had with him. 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:23.840 Oh and uh did you have to type it out? 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:26.639 No, I I did copied and pasted that. 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:29.679 I saw what you sent me, I saw that after the game. 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:32.480 So literally on some of that stuff. 00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:38.960 By the way, if don't text me 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call me once the game has started, I'll never answer the phone because you can text and I might catch it. 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:47.360 But I use my the phone to control the music and sound effects, and and I'm using the iPad, which also receives text uh for the script. 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:52.159 And so it's like, and then I'm standing and watching the game and calling the numbers and the downs and so forth. 00:11:52.240 --> 00:12:01.279 But if sometimes people will call me because I gotta get to my and I'm like, there's no way I'm gonna answer this phone because I'm also connected to my Bluetooth device, which is connected to the speaker on the scoreboard. 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:10.879 And there's and to that's why that you I yeah, I sent that, and it was because uh Jeremiah came over and he's like, Hey, can you tell Troy that my list changed? 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:14.320 I said, Okay, this was literally after warm-ups. 00:12:14.559 --> 00:12:23.039 Yeah, you know, they had gone back to the locker room, and I'm like, Okay, tell me he's like, All right, um He's like Miyoshi. 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:25.039 Yeah, I'm like okay. 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:26.559 Well, it's spelled funny. 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:36.000 I spelled it, and but yeah, Miyoshi, Raven, Raymond, Sincere, Aji, uh those were all yeah, John, Jacoby, Derek, Annika. 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:38.799 Yeah, so anyway, well, yeah. 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:42.159 He was giving me all that uh just in time. 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:42.559 Sure. 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:44.320 And I said, Well, I'll send it to Troy. 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:45.519 I can't guarantee anything. 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:46.000 Yeah. 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:49.440 So anybody missed it, I did get it recorded and it's on X. 00:12:49.519 --> 00:12:50.480 So people go back. 00:12:51.360 --> 00:12:51.759 Oh, really? 00:12:51.840 --> 00:12:52.799 Okay, yeah, yeah. 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:55.600 You can see some emotion on mom and dad and the kids. 00:12:55.679 --> 00:12:57.120 Yeah, and that's to be expected. 00:12:57.279 --> 00:12:58.480 Yeah, I appreciate you doing that. 00:12:58.559 --> 00:12:59.279 Yeah, thanks, Adam. 00:12:59.440 --> 00:13:00.879 I saw some of that this morning, actually. 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:02.159 I didn't realize you had done that. 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:05.200 Yeah, I I've had the last couple years try to get down there. 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:07.919 That's good, that's important, you know, and that's one of those things. 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:11.759 Even Coach Callaway at the meeting today, he said, I've been lots of places. 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:17.840 He said, the he goes, your football boot, he calls us the booster club, which is fine. 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:22.480 But obviously referring to the gridiron club, he's like, You have no idea how big a deal that is, guys. 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:25.519 He goes, because some of y'all just that's what you've always had. 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:25.919 Yeah.

00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:29.200 And he goes, but he goes, I'm just telling you, it's a big deal. 00:13:29.440 --> 00:13:29.759 Yeah. 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:31.519 So yeah, he definitely appreciates it. 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:33.120 And I know the kids do too. 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:34.320 I mean, they really do. 00:13:34.559 --> 00:13:37.360 You know, because they voted today on the bullsies. 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:38.320 Well, fantastic. 00:13:38.399 --> 00:13:39.600 The kids had a say in it. 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:45.519 Yes, well, they had the say in it because Coach Calloway told him, Hey, nobody's gonna accuse me of having favorites. 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:50.240 He goes, if you don't get nominated for something, that ain't me that don't like it, it's your teammates. 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:54.000 When you put it like that, yeah, sounds almost democratic. 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:54.879 Yeah, somewhat. 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:55.679 Yeah, somewhat. 00:13:55.840 --> 00:13:57.600 That's kind of a neat thing. 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:01.120 Yeah, well, um, that's funny. 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:11.519 You know, with the with the gridiron club, um uh, I mean, maybe there is a booster club we're not aware of, and we think we're the ones that we're taking all the credit for, but seriously, it's fine. 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:12.080 I'm okay with that. 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:14.799 Courtney's got a whole different club and we don't even know about it. 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:17.440 As long as we're not getting blamed for something else, we'll take credit. 00:14:17.759 --> 00:14:18.000 Yeah. 00:14:19.039 --> 00:14:38.159 We have uh we do a lot, we do a lot of stuff, and that is why we're here to talk about today, because you know, the when it comes to game days and the season and the team, the premise of the booster club, and we've mentioned this before, but just to be clear, Waldorf University is a school that has not grown in size for since I was at Waldorf University. 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:39.759 We had six, seven hundred people. 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:40.879 That's what we have every year. 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:42.879 It's a success if that's what we're at. 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:47.519 Sometimes it's a little lower than that, but on campus personnel, right around six hundred people. 00:14:47.679 --> 00:14:50.240 Um, I always thought the goal was to reach to a thousand. 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:54.480 I think that is the goal, but I don't see that happening for uh some time. 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:57.200 Um and so six hundred is the number that we're at. 00:14:57.360 --> 00:15:00.639 Three-quarters of the students are s are in athletic programs. 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:10.639 The model is as a business to recruit athletes to play in the NAIA through the different venues that we have to perform in those fields here at Waldorf University, which is fantastic. 00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:26.320 The largest group on campus is uh the football program, with uh, you know,

typically with the with their um they're told, like every coach in a business model at university, what you're what you're I guess to keep your job, this is what you have to recruit. 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:31.279 Uh which is familiar to me because I did that, you know, in the National Guard for a long, long time. 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:36.399 And so um I don't know what their mission is, if it's 120, 130, 140. 00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:38.720 I mean, they could make it 180 if they want to. 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:42.080 Um they don't uh roll out a JV program. 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:43.600 They do for basketball. 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:48.240 Uh Coach Wirth's got some good things going on with men's basketball, and you can see that. 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:50.159 And so he's got a JV. 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:54.159 And then uh there probably are some other programs as well. 00:15:54.399 --> 00:16:04.240 But the reality of the matter is when we started the gridiron club, well, you guys started the gridiron, when the gridiron club was started, um six, seven, eight years ago now, I don't know where we're at. 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:12.960 It was because we were a for-profit university uh owned by May's Education, uh, that was eventually was bought back by the Waldorf Lutheran Foundation. 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:16.799 It's now nonprofit and uh runs like it's supposed to. 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:28.320 Uh, but we're thankful to what the Maze crew did because they kept Waldorf on the face of the earth for 10 or 15 years, which was which was 10 years, which was necessary, and that's how we got some of the nice stuff that we got. 00:16:28.559 --> 00:16:40.320 In order to support that program with a nonprofit, the Gridiron Club came into existence and it allowed us to uh support the largest program with the number of student athletes on campus. 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:45.039 The business model is butts and seats that equates to tuition, etc. 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:55.519 And so if you can support that program and help them be successful and feel successful and feel big time, then you'll be able to help your university. 00:16:55.759 --> 00:17:03.120 And because Waldorf University is such a small university and a small town that we're all from, that's our that's a form of community service. 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:15.359 We're helping our community, at least for me, and we've talked about it before, it's a way for us to help our community of Forest City by making sure that Waldorf continues to succeed. 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:22.079 Um as outsiders, not the people that are paid, you know, uh by the by the school. 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:24.160 All of our time is donated. 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:34.400 We we collect, we raise money, we just get things done, uh, and we're able to provide funds for and to our football program without any bureaucracy. 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:37.759 And that was always the model, and it is still the model. 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:54.559 And sometimes it is frustrating because I feel like we're kicking ass as a model of what a gridiron club should be, and uh constantly just being chop blocked. 00:17:54.880 --> 00:17:55.519 Feels like it. 00:17:55.759 --> 00:17:58.400 And so that's why I wrote this social media. 00:17:58.559 --> 00:18:03.680 No, I didn't it would be a heck of a reveal. 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:05.519 Uh, but we might as well get into it. 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:07.039 Folks, you've been waiting for this. 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:41.519 Yeah, this is not a uh tear down Waldorf session because we wouldn't be here in this organization spending our time, which is very valuable, uh uh and our and our own money and collecting money from all of our patrons uh to support our program if we didn't believe in it, if we didn't believe in the organization, by the way, which of which we are all alum and care very much about and deep-seated community members, like deep-seated, longtime generational families that are like we want our community to succeed as much as we want Winnebago Industries to succeed, which is a different podcast. 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:44.480 You want to talk about what's right and wrong over there, you know. 00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:47.119 So it's like we love our community. 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:47.839 Yes, we do. 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:54.240 This is part of our community, it's a part of our lives and our story, and that's why we give a damn. 00:18:54.480 --> 00:19:00.720 And so when a social media post came out about two weeks ago now, three weeks ago, might have been three weeks ago. 00:19:01.039 --> 00:19:02.480 October 26th. 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:03.519 Two weeks ago. 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:04.079 Yep. 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:06.880 Uh written by an anonymous person. 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:07.440 Right. 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:09.279 Um It was no one in this room. 00:19:09.519 --> 00:19:12.319 No, because Well, I mean, Troy, you said you didn't. 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:13.119 I know I didn't. 00:19:13.599 --> 00:19:15.279 I don't have Facebook off the hook. 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:16.000 Oh, yeah. 00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:16.960 Never mind. 00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:27.039 An anonymous person wrote a uh I thought I thought a fairly well-worded post uh that described some of their concerns with you know our alma mater. 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:32.640 And it was on our I don't know, I'm not even a member of that community group, but it's like Four City Community Group. 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:36.079 Well, so I really care about our community if I'm not on the Facebook community group. 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:36.880 Shame. 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:38.799 But but enough people saw it. 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:39.200 Yes. 00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:40.559 Uh it was brought to my attention. 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:41.440 We all know about it. 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:42.160 We all saw it. 00:19:42.240 --> 00:19:43.839 Andy, you're gonna read it here in a second. 00:19:44.160 -->

00:19:52.160 Yes, I am, and and again, um, it was on that particular Facebook page, it was removed the next day. 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:57.920 The by the the administrator said something about it was removed for incorrect information. 00:19:58.160 --> 00:20:02.079 And again, I don't know what in this post is correct and incorrect. 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:03.519 This is someone's opinion. 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:04.240 Yeah. 00:20:04.480 --> 00:20:08.720 Um and so but I think it stirred up a lot. 00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:12.640 Yeah, it it stirred up and you know who knows why they took it down or anything. 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:21.839 And that same person that drafted the uh this post that I'm about to read, um, did say that they were quite disappointed that it was taken down. 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:22.400 Yeah. 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:24.559 Um, and that's still that is still up. 00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:26.079 Um but the second piece. 00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:29.519 They also admitted that they are an employee of the university. 00:20:29.759 --> 00:20:30.480 And the second piece. 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:43.440 Yeah, and the second one saying they're disappointed that it was taken down, that they were they're an employee of the university and they fear retaliation and possible termination um if if their uh identity were to be. 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:53.920 So it's not a tenured person because tenure is something only the BS in academia lives by, and that's supposed to allow you to have freedom to speak. 00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:54.400 Yeah. 00:20:54.640 --> 00:20:56.720 So they must not be a tenured person either. 00:20:56.960 --> 00:20:58.000 We're gonna narrow down. 00:20:58.640 --> 00:21:02.240 Well, yeah, and everybody it's kind of funny because I shouldn't say funny. 00:21:02.480 --> 00:21:05.119 Um, there was there's a lot of speculation. 00:21:05.200 --> 00:21:06.880 Everybody's like, you know, who do you think it is? 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:08.000 I thought it was so and so. 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:12.160 You know, it's like how directly wanted people, and they're like, nah, it wasn't us. 00:21:12.319 --> 00:21:19.519 No, and we can uh get into it after too, but you know, after the coach's show Wednesday, I talked with some of the athletic people that were there. 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:26.319 And the number one thing I started with is are they listening to the message or are they just worried about the messenger? 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:27.519 Yeah, that's a good point. 00:21:27.680 --> 00:21:30.240 Because and you know, we'll see. 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:34.960 You know, I I I didn't want them just consumed with who it was and not listening to what was said. 00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:39.920 And I and I understand that a non-anonymous message should hold more clout. 00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:40.319 Yeah. 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:43.680 If if what they're saying is true, I see why it was anonymous. 00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:59.440 Well, I will tell you that I sent

this uh to my wife and said, Oh my god, somebody, you know, because I I will be honest, I've said some of these things, the majority of these things, uh, of my frustrations, but at the same time, it's just it. 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:07.599 That is the uh that's the environment that we have to have to operate in, you know, working uh with the football team and stuff like that. 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:09.839 And so I'm not gonna sit there and make waves. 00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:14.319 And I sent it to my wife and she goes, Did did you write this? 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:15.200 I said, No. 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:17.680 And she goes, Well, it doesn't sound like how you would write. 00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:17.920 Yeah. 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:20.400 And I said, Look, and then I started thinking about it. 00:22:20.480 --> 00:22:29.119 So my first trip was to get a hold of Coach Callaway to come in and say, Hey, look, I I know that you've seen that, and you just need to understand that was not me. 00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:32.559 Yeah, if I'm gonna throw it out there, I'm gonna put my name on it. 00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:34.720 That's exactly what I told C is the opposite. 00:22:34.799 --> 00:22:37.039 Heidi showed it to me, and she said, Did you write this? 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:39.839 And I was like, I'd put my name on it if I wrote something. 00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:41.680 Yeah, if I'm gonna write something, and it's well written. 00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:42.319 Uh yeah. 00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:48.160 Well, and for okay, with no further ado, let's uh this is it's a bit lengthy. 00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:50.880 Um, so but I'll go ahead and read it uh verbatim. 00:22:51.119 --> 00:22:53.119 Hopefully, background music I should find. 00:22:53.359 --> 00:22:54.000 Oh, absolutely. 00:22:54.079 --> 00:22:56.480 Like these are the days of our lives. 00:22:57.119 --> 00:22:57.599 All right. 00:22:57.759 --> 00:23:01.680 Um, the title of it is I think it's time to have an honest conversation. 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:08.400 Uh I think it's time to have an honest conversation about the direction of Waldorf University and the leadership decisions that are affecting its future. 00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:12.640 This is not about attacking individual coaches, faculty members, or student athletes. 00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:17.920 There are people at Waldorf who care deeply about their students and work hard to make their program successful. 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:26.720 This is about leadership, accountability, and whether the people making decisions at the top are giving this university and its students the tools they need to succeed. 00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:31.119 At some point, we have to stop making excuses and start asking difficult questions. 00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:36.480 The transition to the Great Plains Athletic Conference was supposed to be a step forward for Waldorf. 00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:41.440 Shorter travel distances and reduced travel expenses were among the anticipated benefits. 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:45.200 But what has this transition actually delivered for Waldorf student athletes? 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:54.559 If saving money was a significant reason for the move, where are the measurable improvements in the programs, facilities, recruiting, and overall student-athlete experience? 00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:55.599 Look at the records. 00:23:55.759 --> 00:24:00.000 Waldorf football went 0-11 and 24, 0-10 in 2025. 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:04.319 In 2026, the team remains winless through October 24th. 00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:07.920 That is 29 consecutive losses across those three seasons. 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:13.920 Men's basketball finished 3-24 overall and 2-18 in conference play in 2024 and 25. 00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:20.480 Women's basketball finished 2-26 overall and 1-21 in conference play in 2025-26. 00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:26.079 Baseball went 14-33 in 2025 and 13-36 in 2026. 00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:32.319 Softball finished 3-36 overall and 1-21 in conference play in 2025. 00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:39.119 Women's soccer went winless in conference play in 24, and men's soccer went 0-10 in conference play in 25. 00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:41.279 These are not isolated disappointments. 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:52.000 They're results that demand an honest evaluation of how our athletic programs are being supported, how recruiting is being handled, and whether the university's leadership has a realistic plan to improve. 00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:55.680 I'm not suggesting that winning is the only measure of a university. 00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:56.559 It is not. 00:24:56.720 --> 00:25:08.799 But when a school recruits students to compete at the collegiate level, and a competitive one at that, it has a responsibility to provide them with a legitimate opportunity to develop, compete, and take pride in their programs. 00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:13.839 And when you look at what other universities are doing, the questions become even more difficult to ignore. 00:25:14.079 --> 00:25:27.119 Northwestern College completed its John and Ann Der Hartog Athletic Complex in 2025, adding a football locker room, coach's offices, a 140-seat team room, and renovated locker rooms for several other sports. 00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:39.680 Midland University announced a$1.6 million on-campus turf practice facility in 2026 designed to improve training opportunities, reduce scheduling conflicts, and support athlete well-being. 00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:49.359 Dort University has continued investing in its Rosenboom Athletic Center, including expanded training space, updated locker rooms, and improvements to athletic facilities. 00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:54.559 These are not distant examples for major Division I universities with enormous budgets. 00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:58.400 These are schools competing in the same regional collegiate athletics landscape. 00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:03.920 They are making visible investments in the day-to-day experience of their

student athletes, their coaches, and their recruits. 00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:06.480 So what is Waldorf's comparable long-term plan? 00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:15.920 Where is the commitment to modernizing facilities, improving athlete spaces, supporting coaches, and making the campus experience competitive with the schools Waldorf is trying to recruit against? 00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:19.119 Yes, Waldorf completed a turf project at Boltstorf Field. 00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:30.000 That was a positive step, but the football booster program, having to pay to install the field logo, raises a reasonable question about where institutional priorities and financial support actually lie. 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:37.279 A university should not have to rely on boosters to fill every gap in the basic presentation and upkeep of its athletic facilities. 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:38.799 The dorms are another concern. 00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:43.039 They are subpar and frankly embarrassing to show prospective students and their families. 00:26:43.359 --> 00:26:44.720 First impressions matter. 00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:49.279 Students and parents are being asked to make a significant financial and personal commitment to Waldorf. 00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:56.400 The living environment should reflect that commitment, not giving families another reason to question whether they are making the right choice. 00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:59.200 Scholarships and affordability deserve the same scrutiny. 00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:04.240 Students and family need to understand what they are committing to when they accept an offer. 00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:11.119 When tuition increases year after year, but a student scholarship stays the same, the student's actual out-of-pocket cost increases. 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:15.680 Families can end up paying substantially more than they expected when the student committed. 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:20.559 A scholarship that does not keep pace with tuition increases and becomes less valuable every year. 00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:32.720 Leadership needs to consider how scholarship offers are structured, structured, how renewal terms are communicated, and whether Waldorf's financial packages are genuinely competitive and sustainable for students and their families. 00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:42.079 The university cannot expect families to keep absorbing higher costs while overlooking the student experience and the resources provided in return. 00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:52.960 If other institutions are investing in their facilities and student athlete experience, Waldorf must recognize that scholarship competitiveness and campus quality are part of the recruiting equation too. 00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:56.640 The way recruiting and admissions work together also needs to change. 00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:59.359 Coaches should be coaching, teaching, and developing athletes. 00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:06.240 Recruiting is a necessary part of their jobs, and coaches should absolutely be held accountable for building the rosters and meeting reasonable recruiting goals. 00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:16.559 But when coaches are spending excessive time chasing prospective students, handling administrative tasks, and trying to move applications through the system, that takes time away from the very work they were hired to do. 00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:21.519 The director of missions should be an active partner in converting prospective students into enrolled students. 00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:30.480 That means consistent follow-up, clear communication with families, timely assistance with applications and financial aid, and a genuine effort to close the gap between a student's interest and enrollment. 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:36.559 Coaches should not have to carry the burden of the entire admissions process on top of their coaching responsibilities. 00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:40.160 Ooh, this is Need a drink of water, Andy? 00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:40.640 No. 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:44.480 Uh all right, here we go. 00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:46.319 Recruiting targets alone are not enough. 00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:57.119 The university must have an admissions process that works, scholarship offers that are competitive, facilities that make a good impression, and student experience that gives people a reason to stay and recommend Waldorf to others. 00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:00.079 Ultimately, this comes down to leadership and accountability. 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:06.880 The president, the athletic director, and the director of admissions need to take a hard look at the current state of the university and answer some difficult questions. 00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:10.720 What was the actual strategy behind the GPAC transition and how? 00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:13.759 How is its success being measured? 00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:17.279 What is the plan to improve athletic performance and student-athlete retention? 00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:19.039 Are scholarship offers competitive? 00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:22.000 Are facilities and residence halls meeting reasonable expectations? 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:23.440 Are coaches being supported? 00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:26.160 Or are they being asked to compensate for shortcomings? 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:32.160 Elsewhere in the institution, what is being done to ensure that prospective students receive the attention and follow-through they deserve? 00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:39.599 And if travel savings were part of the rationale for the changing conferences, how much was saved and how much of that money has been reinvested into the programs? 00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:47.920 These are not unreasonable questions, they are questions students, families, alumni, boosters, employees, and supporters should be asking. 00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:53.519 Waldorf has a history, a community, and people who genuinely want to see it succeed. 00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:56.000 That is exactly why these concerns matter. 00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:00.799 Caring about an institution

means being willing to speak up when its direction is troubling. 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:04.480 At some point, leadership has to be measured by outcomes, not promises. 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:15.759 If the current leadership cannot provide a credible plan, demonstrate meaningful per progress, and take responsibility for the direction of the university, then it's fair to ask whether changes at the top are necessary. 00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:17.680 Waldorf students deserve better. 00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:19.759 Its coaches deserve better support. 00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:28.880 Its families deserve transparency, and the university deserves leadership that is willing to confront the problems instead of continuing to ask everyone else to work around them. 00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:37.920 This is not about tearing Waldorf down, it's about wanting Waldorf to be better and recognize that meaningful change starts with accountability at the top. 00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:39.119 Yeah, that was long. 00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:41.440 I think that we figured out who wrote it. 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:42.960 Chris Broy. 00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:47.759 It may maybe. 00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:48.720 I don't know. 00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:49.519 It is long. 00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:50.640 A lot of points in there. 00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:52.079 I don't know what was wrong. 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:53.920 Um I don't know what was incorrect. 00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:55.200 Maybe some of the records. 00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:56.240 I couldn't tell you. 00:30:56.480 --> 00:30:59.680 Yeah, obviously a lot of that is and most of it is opinion. 00:30:59.920 --> 00:31:05.039 And um uh so yeah, it could have been a record statistical, but that wouldn't be a reason to remove it. 00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:09.839 Like that's why you're gonna take it off of Facebook, is because they were wrong about the men's basketball record. 00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:12.000 So pull it, inaccurate. 00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:16.240 Okay, what about the other 99.9% of stuff more slightly relative? 00:31:16.559 --> 00:31:17.519 Well, and it's uncomfortable. 00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:20.000 I mean, I gotta be honest with you, it's uncomfortable to read. 00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:20.400 Yeah. 00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:23.440 Um, again, I think we all can agree we love Waldorf. 00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:23.759 Yeah. 00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:25.440 Um, and and we want what's best. 00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:27.200 And we'd not be doing this if we didn't. 00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:28.640 Well, we did not give a damn. 00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:31.599 Like, I don't care about I didn't go to the University of Iowa. 00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:32.160 No. 00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:34.319 You know, I've said before, I don't have a dog in that fight. 00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:38.880 I when they play other states, I root for whatever our Iowa team is playing against that other state. 00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:42.559 When they play each other, usually who didn't win the last time. 00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:43.039 Yeah. 00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:44.480 You know, is who I'm rooting for. 00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:46.400 I'm referring to whoever the underdog is. 00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:50.640 So um that may not be the right way to do it, but I care about Waldorf. 00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:51.839 I do care about her record. 00:31:52.000 --> 00:32:00.240 More importantly, I don't want my degree, my diploma that's got a name on it, to to go the way of Tykeo Westmar, whatever the hell school that was. 00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:02.720 Uh out in Sioux City or with Lamar's, I guess. 00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:04.720 There used to be a there used to be a college out there. 00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:05.039 Okay. 00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:08.000 Westmar University or college or whatever, you know. 00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:14.799 So everybody wants Waldorf to succeed, including the folks I s you know, at the top of the university. 00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:15.119 They've got to do that. 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:16.480 Everybody wants it to succeed. 00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:21.519 But what you want and what you gonna get can be different things, you know, unless we do hard work. 00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:38.000 And again, I uh my um criticism of that post being taken down is this is, and again, I'm just making an assumption that someone at the university uh sent in something to that Facebook page and said, please take that down for whatever reason. 00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:50.400 Um again, because it was incorrect, and again it's it's mostly but um I I don't want to see people like we just need to clean house. 00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:52.960 I I don't know if that's necessarily the answer. 00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:56.000 You know, I like our leadership as as human beings. 00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:58.400 I mean, I mean I know all of them personally. 00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:12.000 Um, but one of the things that I would like to see as an alum and somebody that uh that from time to time I'm asked to give money, obviously not so much anymore since I'm part of the gridiron club, and that's where I choose to donate just a small amount of money. 00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:16.319 But the reality is is that what what does three years look like? 00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:16.960 Yeah. 00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:21.119 Facilities, programs, um, what are the goals of the university? 00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:24.480 Um, I want to know what it looks like in five years, what does it look like in ten? 00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:36.079 Um, and and that may be discussed, but it's like I would like to know because I can get behind something that says this is the direction of Waldorf University moving forward. 00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:42.160 Yeah, you gotta have a picture for as much education as we are given and provided, and we can do our reading. 00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:43.440 We all want pictures. 00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:43.920 Yep. 00:33:44.160 --> 00:34:00.240 Show me what the new facility looks like, show me what the

improved dormitories look like, show me what this looks like, show me a list of the exact five things that you're going to complete this year exactly at the university, and then celebrate that on this date that's already put forth that you're going to do it. 00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:09.119 Kind of like when we said we're gonna take the trees out, we're gonna put the trees in, and we're gonna recognize that we put the trees in, except for the part with the ash plaques. 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:12.079 We never got around to getting those made, but someday, someday. 00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:14.880 That's just something that's some. 00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:17.119 The trees are there, you know what I mean. 00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:18.719 We did what we said we were going to do. 00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:19.840 Same thing with the logo. 00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:21.199 You know, said we're gonna do it. 00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:22.800 Here's the dollar amount, got it done. 00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:33.519 Yeah, the logo, you know, the logo thing was I can speak to that a little bit because you know, uh the way that um it's interesting that you brought up Dort because when we were at Dort, that's a great community. 00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:35.599 They have got it figured out, they're not duplicative. 00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:42.480 They share everything with their community school district, the University of Dort, the city is involved with that, and what other entity that you have. 00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:46.800 So, you know, it's not Dort's Ice Arena and their Dort, you know, bubble. 00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:49.039 It's it's like it's the city is involved with that. 00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:56.320 In fact, their parks and rec department is located on campus immediately behind uh these stands at the football field. 00:34:56.480 --> 00:35:02.079 It's between the I was looking at their baseball and softball nets, which I've been as a four city sports booster. 00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:03.760 Well, that actually are the boosters. 00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:04.239 Here you go. 00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:16.719 You know, looking at getting these the netting for the backstops for our baseball and softball fields at the high school, which we wisely share with Waldorf University, and everybody would enjoy that instead of the chain link fences we got there. 00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:17.039 Yep. 00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:26.079 Um, and so there's some guys on the board with me in that particular situation that are like, why can't you know, you know, it's what's taking so long, this is not complicated. 00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:29.199 Like we're running into our own barricades administratively on some of those things. 00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:35.360 Booster clubs have a tendency to move quickly because it's it's it's made up of people who have time and money and they're willing to get things done. 00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:35.679 Yep. 00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:51.519 That's not always how it works, you know, in bureaucracies, and and that's kind of what happens in larger institutions, partly because they want to own it and take credit for it and manage it, and it's their brand, so they should to some degree, but sometimes they need to know if you're a leader when to get out of the way. 00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:58.000 Um, and I mean, I was taking pictures of their nets, and and that's how I knew that these two guys see me, you know. 00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:04.079 Terrorist come over there from and they're like, What's I saw you looking at the nets? 00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:10.639 I'm like, Yeah, and I asked the questions like uh well, we put them up, and they're like, This one we paid for, and this one we put up ourselves. 00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:13.280 So I'm like, now I got two that I can you know model. 00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:20.000 And uh, and so uh took some pictures, talked to those guys, we'll bring that information back to the to our sports boosters. 00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:21.280 But that's a smart way to do it. 00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:26.880 In Forest City, small school, small community, smaller than I think Sioux Center, uh population-wise. 00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:33.920 And we are um you know blessed to have Winnebago Industries as a factory here and and where it originated. 00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:38.719 But uh, you know, the reality is is that uh we are dumb when it comes to we duplicate the hell out of things. 00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:44.639 Like we have two football fields, two tracks, uh, you know, they have to have a separate university and a separate this, that. 00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:48.639 And that's not how other schools in the GPAC get it done because they're not morons. 00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:52.719 We couldn't even get our library, our city library. 00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:57.599 They wanted a new city library, couldn't even get that to come to Waldorf where we have the Louise V. 00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:01.360 Hansen library, which is fairly new, like within 15 years. 00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:01.679 Yeah. 00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:03.519 Maybe it's 20 years old now, I don't know. 00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:06.719 But regardless, there it is, and it's got room. 00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:10.559 So put that there, and the people in the community can't figure that out either. 00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:16.719 Um so there's a lot of there's a lot of problems that are not they're not end-of-the-world problems. 00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:23.679 It's just uh, you know, a lack of, you know, creativity and and true leadership in a little in a lot of different capacities. 00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:26.239 We should be coordinated on all of these different things. 00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:31.440 And we see that being done at Dort and Morningside and in Northwestern. 00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:48.480 And when so when it came to our logo on the football field, that was something that you know, because we share that with the school, the school has half of that payment, Waldorf has the

other half, and then when the school gets their football field turf next year or whenever they do that, Waldorf has half that payment. 00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:49.519 We have half that. 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:59.599 But the thing is it's based on what the just the field is, not the not the logo, you know. 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:05.199 And so it's um twenty thousand bucks to put the logo, to put the medallion in the center. 00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:12.079 And the Indian sports boosters, uh well, we're gonna do that, and we're also gonna have our red zone, our end zone, our end zones be red. 00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:21.440 And we offered to do that for Waldorf as the boosters, because it's ridiculously, it's only like three thousand dollars more to do your colored end zones. 00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:25.280 And I guess there was a soccer concern, which I understand. 00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:27.039 We play soccer over there, so it's fine. 00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:28.880 So we didn't do that. 00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:32.880 But we don't do that at you know, um at the high school. 00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:34.880 At the high school, so we don't have a soccer team. 00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:38.320 Anyway, that being and if we did, we just come play at Waldorf, why wouldn't you? 00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:40.159 Because Yeah, for sure. 00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:43.840 We share that field too, it's part of our field, which is why you can't drink inside. 00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:45.920 And that's because it's a high school, you know. 00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:46.719 Yeah. 00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:47.519 Yeah. 00:38:47.679 --> 00:39:07.920 And and that, yeah, I I I agree with the duplicity, you know, the duplication of processes and and you know, like I remember when we built the track, you know, had that first project, you know, 14 years ago, 15 years ago, and it's like we bought some super timing system that I don't and do we have track meets at Waldorf. 00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:12.159 Um I I don't know if I don't know if the university does or not. 00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:13.199 I don't know if they do. 00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:15.119 I mean, I can talk to they certainly could. 00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:23.199 Yeah, I don't know if they high school tries to wants maybe one or maybe maybe two if we're lucky. 00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:24.800 I don't I feel like we should be having more. 00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:26.559 Oh, we have a beautiful facility. 00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:28.639 I mean, we have an eight-lane track. 00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:35.840 Like, why would we not be a district site and you know get that that's a question for the other booster club, actually the other administration. 00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:37.119 Yeah, I agree with you on that. 00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:40.719 I that'd be great and have my opinions, but yeah, we'll leave it alone. 00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:41.440 Yeah, for sure. 00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:54.800 Um, but again, this this whole idea of reading that was not to to stir the hornets, but just to know that it's out there and and um it's been a topic of discussion throughout the community. 00:39:54.960 --> 00:40:02.159 Um, and when I say that, it's there are people that don't live in Four City that saw that and like, oh my gosh, what is going on? 00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:04.079 And I'm like, nothing really. 00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:08.239 Yeah, it's just like it got taken down, you know, and I don't understand why. 00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:11.440 It's not the end of the world post, and it doesn't it doesn't cause the end of the world. 00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:12.480 Waldorf's fine. 00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:15.280 You bet the booster club is now I'm doing it. 00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:18.239 The the the gridiron club is fine, you know. 00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:20.480 Um it it all could be better. 00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:24.000 And I guess that was I think that was the point of that incredibly long post. 00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:27.760 Um, is that it all could be better. 00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:30.639 And and I don't know how to get there, Troy. 00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:33.440 No, I can't like But we know the definition of insanity. 00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:34.239 Doing the same thing. 00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:37.119 So what are we doing different? 00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:44.880 I think well I can I mean I I don't have the you know, she th the the person, he or she, I don't know who it was. 00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:48.159 Like they, you know, they mentioned they listed all of the records. 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:51.920 And I'm like, that does suck. 00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:56.639 I mean, it sucks not to have a winning record in in a variety of things, but I feel like we're making traction. 00:40:56.800 --> 00:41:00.639 I mean this year volleyball did a lot, you know, did it seem to do a lot. 00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:01.679 I don't follow every sport. 00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:04.320 I don't know how our all of our sports are honestly. 00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:07.119 I don't I hate to say this, but I haven't been to a soccer game. 00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:14.159 I've been to some wrestling mates, I've been to basketball games, I've been to obviously all the football games. 00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:17.039 I've never been to a hockey game ever. 00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:20.480 And it's nothing against hockey. 00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:21.519 I just don't care. 00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:23.519 It's just not a sport that I care about. 00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:28.639 And to some degree I can say that about soccer, and I don't mean that negatively, it's just like I don't I don't care. 00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:33.519 I started I cared a little bit more this year because of World Cup stuff or whatever. 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:36.000 Still didn't care enough, you know what I mean? 00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:46.400 And I've not been to a softball game, you know, not been to a baseball game, you know, uh, because we have weird seasons, as you well know, Adam. 00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:48.000

You know, spring weather in Iowa. 00:41:48.320 --> 00:41:48.960 Very cold. 00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:52.400 Um yeah, so I don't see all those sports. 00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:57.440 I can't verify without going and researching myself if those records are are accurate, but it does suck to lose. 00:41:57.679 --> 00:41:57.840 Right. 00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:03.679 Yeah, and and we're we obviously are focused on football, but you know, the baseball coach was a college teammate of mine. 00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:08.719 Yeah, we all care about how Mike Mike works doing in the and the best in the girls' basketball team too. 00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:13.360 So yeah, we have a football focus, but we care about all the sports and obviously the school. 00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:15.920 We take pride in any success that any of the programs have. 00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:19.599 Absolutely, including our programs that don't recruit for themselves, which is irritating to me. 00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:21.119 I think it's that's a bad business model. 00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:26.800 I will say that as you just look at it like when I was at Waldorf, then we had you know probably 60, 80 kids in the choir. 00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:30.320 I don't know what we have now, but it's like you know, counted on both hands, I think maybe a few more than that. 00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:33.119 And this is the second oldest a cappella choir in the nation. 00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:34.320 No, west of the Mississippi. 00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:35.519 West of the Mississippi. 00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:40.239 I feel like they could have been, you know, I don't even know if they still are a cappella, if that's something that they've kept up or not. 00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:44.400 Well, and I think you uh we can all remember those are scholarships people could get. 00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:44.880 Yeah. 00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:50.719 My uh yeah, my uh my time at Waldorf from 1988 to 1990. 00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:52.960 No, that was a that was a minute, but yeah. 00:42:53.119 --> 00:43:02.960 Um at the same time, you know, we got uh I had so many friends in in choir and so many friends in band, you know, the choir was sixty to eighty strong. 00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:03.920 Exactly what I mean. 00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:04.719 Yeah, yeah. 00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:12.960 And I don't know if there's not the passion for for kids to come to school and help pay for it doing something they love. 00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:15.280 Well, and it could be, I mean I have no idea. 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:16.079 I don't know what the answer is. 00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:25.920 I never understood like what the point was to go to college to get a degree in vocal music, you know, because I I mean, unless you're gonna be a vocal music instructor. 00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:30.320 Well, you can get a degree in in history and sing, but you can get a scholarship to do it. 00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:31.840 That's what I that's what I did. 00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:32.159 Yeah. 00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:34.800 I had a degree in history, I sang in the choir. 00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:36.480 And they threw a little money at me. 00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:38.719 Yeah, you know, so I participated in that. 00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:47.440 And I participated and I didn't play football or another sport, you know, but we had guys that were in football and baseball and these other sports, you know. 00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:49.760 Basketball, whatever, that were in the choir. 00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:50.079 Yeah. 00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:52.239 And I don't know who was in the band, you know, my roommate. 00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:57.280 I never went to you know, whatever, but you know, so it's but the band was big, it was like an orchestra. 00:43:57.519 --> 00:43:58.400 It's cool, you know. 00:43:58.559 --> 00:43:59.679 Yeah and that was coming from a four. 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:03.280 City High School marching band with 130 people in back in the day, you know. 00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:09.119 And so it's like, well, Waldorf has a it's got a great big band and a great and a good band and and all of that. 00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:10.880 And theater was big, you know. 00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:11.280 Yeah. 00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:14.079 I had a I I had a theater scholarship at Waldorf. 00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:14.800 So did I. 00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:15.199 Yeah. 00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:17.679 They it's like you could stack all those different things. 00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:21.519 Here's a little bit here, a little bit there, a little bit there, and it made school affordable. 00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:24.000 And the other athletes did that as well. 00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:27.760 Um now the only people that I understand they can stack are Canadians. 00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:29.760 I don't know if that's true. 00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:32.559 I mean, I know that there is we'll find out. 00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:32.880 Yeah. 00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:40.800 Yeah, we'll probably and that's what I'm interested in is that what this this podcast is gonna generate people talking again. 00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:48.079 Yeah, and are they gonna is whoever got a hold of the Facebook page and said, Hey, you you need to take that down because it's inaccurate. 00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:50.239 Now, again, we are not taking this down. 00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:51.679 No, absolutely not. 00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:56.159 But it's like I I want somebody to call and say, Hey, yeah, you need to come talk to me. 00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:57.039 We got a problem. 00:44:57.199 --> 00:44:58.559 Like, okay, let's do that. 00:44:58.719 --> 00:44:59.840 All right, you know what? 00:44:59.920 --> 00:45:01.519 I got some buddies that are gonna come with me. 00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:02.639 I don't even need them. 00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:07.599 No, I know, but that's what I'm saying is that I want to hear, I want to hear it would never get to that. 00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:10.239 Yeah, but yeah, and it's that's not what we're

doing. 00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:12.480 No, we don't want to cause problems. 00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:15.519 What we want is that number one, it's harping in his knife over here. 00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:16.880 Yeah, he is. 00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:19.360 Yep, yeah. 00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:23.119 We don't want to cause problems, but the reality is that like we're not causing any problems. 00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:29.920 Problems if there are problems, the problems that only exist, we're just identifying them, you know, and that's don't you think that's problematic though, isn't it? 00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:34.800 For somebody that you know, I love it when my wife points out my flaws. 00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:38.719 It really helps me be a better person, and I don't get resentful at all. 00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:41.599 No, that's yeah, that's what we're doing. 00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:42.880 Yeah, that's kind of true. 00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:47.599 And and again, the yeah, yeah, we're not responsible for the content of what they wrote. 00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:53.199 Like as I as I read it, and and again, I don't I don't know that I necessarily agree with all of it. 00:45:53.360 --> 00:46:04.480 Yeah, but there's there's a lot of it that again, I think it's about transparency, and I'm not saying that I'm not saying that the university's hiding anything, but they're sure as heck not telling us anything. 00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:05.280 Yeah. 00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:07.039 I don't think that's correct. 00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:10.800 I think communication is a problem, and it has been, but it's not like a new problem. 00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:17.119 I make this like half the time You don't even know who their faculty are. 00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:40.079 I will say it has changed since Waldorf Beak has become, you know, since Mays and the constant turnover in uh faculty uh to some degree, and uh and the number of um people that just work, you know, they have qu you know if you look at the like all of our faculty members, but you know, I don't know how many most of those are probably online faculty and they don't live here in Forest City. 00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:55.760 So as a guy that you know supports the Gridiron Club because I look at it as a community service for for for my community, um, and you know look, if you're a faculty member, you don't live in my town, I don't really I don't really care. 00:46:55.920 --> 00:47:05.679 You know, like it's great that you're that you're employed and you get a check from Waldorf and you might even love Waldorf and and and I don't know if that's the employer employee relationship that you have. 00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:09.199 That's what alumni that are engaged like we are have. 00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:15.920 We have a love relationship with Waldorf, and it's because we you know we don't get paid to do any of this. 00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:17.440 No, and we live here. 00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:22.800 So if you don't love Waldorf and you don't live here, I don't really give a damn if you know what your opinion is. 00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.920 Um and it doesn't mean that I don't that I would discard your opinion. 00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:29.440 It just means it just doesn't weigh as heavy as mine. 00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:30.639 Doesn't carry the weight. 00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:48.480 And that's how I feel, and I think that's how I would gather that that's how our alumni feel around the nation, you know, that does have an attachment to a two-year private, weird private Lutheran school concept that lasted for a hundred years on its own, and we've been a university now for twenty years or whatever. 00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:52.559 And so um we need to quit acting like a two-year school. 00:47:53.440 --> 00:48:00.079 Yeah, I guess I don't know exactly what you mean by that, but uh but I'm not trying to challenge you, I'm just saying but Yeah. 00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:15.280 Because I don't think that the answer is look, it's nice to have new stuff, and you can go around and and and it'd be easy for us to uh look at other other programs, you know, uh that particularly well-endowed that listen, Dutch Reform schools have a lot of money. 00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:21.360 They're one of the richest schools, they're one of the richest denominations in America, you know. 00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:27.840 So I mean, they're gonna have some things, but they're still they still, you know, got if they got something new and it was a million and a half bucks. 00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:29.199 I mean, that's a pittance. 00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:31.920 This is a multi-billion dollar church, you know. 00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:42.639 So if they get a million and a half, you know, uh thing named after some Dutch guy that loves the Northw Northwestern or whatever, that's been in the making probably for a long time. 00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:46.719 Maybe it was an estate deal, maybe the person had to die, maybe they're still alive, whatever. 00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:48.719 Those things don't matter to me. 00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:50.800 And it shouldn't matter to athletes. 00:48:50.960 --> 00:49:09.440 If you're the kind of athlete that it matters, like if you're if your um locker room is is freshly carpeted and you've got cool lights in your lockers and you've got all of these things and your all of your facilities are amazing, but you still are not a if you want a D1 experience in all of your facilities, but you're not a D1 player, that to me it doesn't match up either. 00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:09.679 No. 00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:15.119 And Waller's not D1, not D2, we're NAI and we can be good in our field where we're at, and and there's nothing wrong with it. 00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:18.880 So our facilities do matter, but they're also they're not bad, they're not terrible. 00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:19.519 Not bad at all. 00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:26.800 And the reality is that uh the grind should be done on the court or on the field or wherever, and

that's where the butt kicking should be happening. 00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:34.400 It shouldn't matter if we've got a you know uh uh tens of millions of dollars invested in in in new facilities. 00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:36.880 Those would be nice, but that's not the mark of success. 00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:40.320 It's just something that is because you could buy all that stuff and still suck. 00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:40.880 Yes. 00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:45.039 And that's not and and and the kids could still have a terrible experience, you know. 00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:46.480 And I'm not saying that that's what they have. 00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:48.239 I don't think the kids have a terrible experience. 00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:52.559 You know, as an army guy, you have a terrible experience in basic training. 00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:55.039 That's kind of what makes everybody an army guy. 00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:56.639 And same thing with Marines. 00:49:56.800 --> 00:50:07.119 They, you know, everybody, you know, you had this up, you had this initial experience at the beginning of your career, and it sucks for everybody, and it bonds you and close together, and you come out of it a successful, you know, your rest of your life. 00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:12.079 Not that you should be, you know, looking to go to college for necessarily a basic training experience, you know. 00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:12.800 Of course not. 00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:14.320 You might find that in JL. 00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:18.159 But that's the only one that I think that is the worst and most decrepit of all of the dormitories. 00:50:18.239 --> 00:50:19.280 The rest of them have been remodeled. 00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:25.840 I guess I haven't been in a room in JL and and uh I mean that's where I lived both years on campus. 00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:28.239 It does have a very prison vibe to it right now. 00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:28.559 Really? 00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:29.760 Yeah, yes, from what I saw. 00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:30.880 That's by the way, though, I got it. 00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:39.679 So you can't say that they're not transparent, Waldorf, because when Jack went through there three years ago and we did our visit, like they take you and show you JL. 00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:40.480 Oh, do they? 00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:40.800 Okay. 00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:49.760 So it's like it's not like they're you know what you know, most schools will take you to the new dorm we just built, and this is where you could live too, but not right now and for you. 00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:53.679 Waldorf is like immediately is like, check out these dorms. 00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:54.960 This is typical living. 00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:55.599 Exactly. 00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:58.960 It's like, you know, it's not as bad as like people's names scratched into the wall. 00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:00.400 Yeah, three cots and a cut. 00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:01.840 I mean, yeah, yeah. 00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:11.920 I would still like to go to

my freshman dorm room because I think that last week of classes, my freshman year, my roommate and I may or may not have been drinking beer illegally. 00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:18.559 Um, took the drawers out and like wrote something on the bottoms of the drawers. 00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:20.000 And I don't think it was obscene. 00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:24.719 Yeah, and it might have been like you, Andy was here something ridiculous. 00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:28.719 You know, like they might have made some changes in 35 years, but it could be. 00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:29.440 I don't know. 00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:30.079 I don't know. 00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:30.559 I don't know. 00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:35.599 Takes a lot of wear, tear, and abuse, and and it's not like it's just our students that are living in those. 00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:45.679 Uh and for the decade or so before this past year, I mean, we'd have dorms would be full of you know, traveling band students, you know, and other things like that. 00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:59.280 So well, but it but the reality is we want Waldorf, the university, part and parcel from the athletic pro, we want it to be wildly successful. 00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:03.519 We want it, and no, we don't need a new$15 million dorm. 00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:06.400 I I I really don't think we don't have the students for it yet. 00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:09.039 Well, right, but it's like I want that to be a problem. 00:52:09.199 --> 00:52:17.280 I want there you go, I want those things that I don't know if we have enough room to put all these kids that want to come here. 00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:25.280 And so do we separate ourselves from and I don't care about Dort, Northwestern, Morningside, I care about Waldorf University. 00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:27.360 What makes us special and unique? 00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:28.079 Yeah, yeah. 00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:30.880 And well, that's the problem, too, isn't it? 00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:34.000 Because is it just gonna be marketing that ooh, come to Waldorf? 00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:35.760 This is what we do differently. 00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:39.599 We're special, we're a family, we're the and university and all that stuff. 00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:40.880 Well, all of that is nonsense. 00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:42.719 It doesn't we need substance, yeah. 00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:46.320 And they haven't, I mean, I I will say um it's frustrating. 00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:47.599 Having a kid in school, too. 00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:53.840 It's like, well, I'm he's you know, Jack's gonna walk away, he's gonna graduate early, he's gonna have a you know a bachelor's degree in business and all that, and it's great. 00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:59.119 Uh, but it's like here we are in the middle of you know the Midwest, and we don't have an ag business degree. 00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:01.679 Yeah, do we not have anybody that knows ag business? 00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:05.119 And the other schools do uh that are in our conference. 00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:06.559 Professor Helms right here. 00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:08.159 Uh exactly well, exactly. 00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:13.119 And um other people teach accounting and ag business. 00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:20.800 They do have a situation where uh again, I'm just using my personal experience, so this is my experience, and it is fact in this regard. 00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:33.679 It's like if you have um, you know, our son Jack's like he basically a Waldorf depends on who your advisor is, whether or not you're going to have any help that's useful to your life going on and getting your required internship. 00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:47.840 And um uh if Jack had maybe different people, you know, that were into our he would not be out there busting doors down to find an internship for himself, which is I guess that's how they do it. 00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:56.800 The best program probably is their education program because they do everything for people that are going to be teachers and they make sure they get all of their stuff ducks in a row from the get-go. 00:53:57.039 --> 00:54:02.000 Um, and maybe there's other program and within every program there probably are advisors that are useful. 00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:07.119 And I don't know any of these people, I wouldn't be able to identify them in a lineback line lineup. 00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:15.280 I just know, you know, what I've been told and what I've watched him do and what I've done to help him get a worthwhile internship lined up. 00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:19.840 And he has said, God, I wish they had egg business, because that's what I would have done, you know. 00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:20.639 But they don't. 00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:24.079 No engineering, you look at some, none of the stuff that we've talked about. 00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:32.559 Uh it's all the same history and whatever health science is and exercise science and health promotion and all that wellness, all that stuff to me. 00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:37.280 I don't think uh I'm not look, good people, good degree, I suppose, but I don't know. 00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:40.960 I would like to see, in all honesty, go back 10 years, how are you along those programs? 00:54:41.039 --> 00:54:51.039 I want to see what the percentages of people that are working in those fields and how much money they're making by the graduates that are in there, which I don't think you'll ever know because um I just don't know how valuable those degrees are. 00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:54.320 Are schools required to like talk about placement rates? 00:54:54.639 --> 00:55:02.800 Well, there was talk about it, and I'm not for this either, but I think the current administration, I don't know if it was this administration or the last time that they were in in charge. 00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:12.079 They they had put out that uh you have to you have to keep track of all your graduates and and what fields they're in based on their degree. 00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:18.559 And

if you weren't within a certain margin of percentage, I don't know what that was, then you'd lose your federal funding. 00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:21.440 Which would be devastating to most liberal art schools. 00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:22.159 Oh, yes, it would. 00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:23.760 It's not a Waldorf problem. 00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:28.320 I think that's just a nice just the national model for liberal art schools in general. 00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:29.920 You're providing a degree. 00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:36.480 It's weird that we live in a world where you have basically it's not the 1100s, you know. 00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:45.440 We're not sending the Prince of Denmark to go to where the smart people live in France so that he can get an education and be a ruler, talking about you know Hamlet. 00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:51.760 Uh, but like we that was that was where he was, you know, when and and and he had come back from university. 00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:54.239 That model, we're still using the same model. 00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:55.840 This is where all the smart people live. 00:55:55.920 --> 00:56:00.719 You have to go live at university because that's where the professors live. 00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:02.400 Which is untrue today. 00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:06.880 In fact, the largest part of the Waldorf business model, from what I understand, is the online university. 00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:11.760 So the brick and mortar side of it is clearly meant for kids who want to play ball. 00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:13.119 Seems like it, yeah. 00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:15.280 Which is that would be hard to argue, wouldn't it? 00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:25.519 Well, so if you have two models going on at the exact same time, and and and and and that we have run into this thing, uh, it's the 2008 crisis. 00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:27.360 Those people are all 30 and 18 now. 00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:38.400 In the 2008 economic crisis, it's statistically proven that for whatever reason, parents that were having kids at that time failed America because they quit having as many children as they were supposed to. 00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:45.920 My generation, our generation, Andy, you know, you're a millennial, I think, you know, like like you're we're failed because we just like we'll have a couple of kids. 00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:51.360 You need to be having six, seven, eight kids, especially if you want to have all these, you know, social programs that we've got going on for America. 00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:54.639 So it's the same thing that happens with your colleges. 00:56:55.039 --> 00:57:01.519 There is a devastating drop in the number of students in population college age right now. 00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:13.360 There is one, two This generation isn't also like why do we gotta spend all this money to go to get a degree in uh English. 00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:23.039 They don't value it like they usually do not, and because they don't have parents that were like our grandparents and our

great-grandparents, great my great-grandparents didn't have a college education. 00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:27.760 My grandmother did, both my grandmothers, but my grandparents, my grandfathers didn't. 00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:36.719 Then both of my parents, and then they you know, so it's like now it's like, and for us, the ex-gen, it's like, gosh, if you want to be successful, you gotta go to college. 00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:39.360 And that's what they told us our whole life. 00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:40.159 Remember that? 00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:56.800 Like you have here, you have teachers who are justifying their student debt to get a college degree, who are telling us as guidance counselors, the only way you'll ever be successful and not be a loser like that guy that's you know, your plumber driving a hundred thousand dollar truck and has giant vacations, you know. 00:57:56.880 --> 00:58:03.039 That loser, you know, like you need to have put yourself in debt so you can be uh replaced by AI, you know, whatever. 00:58:03.199 --> 00:58:11.519 So I still remember like I've probably told you the story that when I was uh when I was a senior in high school, I took the ASVAB and I scored well. 00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:18.320 And and uh the uh I I think it was an army or marine recruiter that that administered the test with me. 00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:20.880 And I said, I think I'd be interested in the Navy. 00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:24.639 And so the Navy guy got a hold of me and he said, Well, you got a pretty good test. 00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:27.760 He goes, uh, you know, what uh what do you think you'd want to do in the Navy? 00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:29.119 I said, I'd like to fly jets. 00:58:29.199 --> 00:58:30.719 And he goes, It wasn't that good a test. 00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:31.360 That's right. 00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:41.599 And so I did, yes, I remembered sitting down with my folks thinking, okay, this and uh 100% true what you're saying. 00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:53.920 You gotta go to college, you have to get that bachelor's degree to ever really be able to have any type of opportunity to earn an income that's gonna make you secure and be able to raise a family, blah, blah, blah. 00:58:54.159 --> 00:58:58.400 I said, Dad, I I think I'd like to go into the Navy following my father's footsteps. 00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:02.000 Yeah, and my dad said, Absolutely not. 00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:02.800 Yeah. 00:59:03.039 --> 00:59:07.920 The reason my dad went into the Navy because the women and men shower together. 00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:09.840 He didn't bring that up. 00:59:10.079 --> 00:59:14.880 I don't think that's true, but it's I always imagine I don't think they allowed women in the Navy back in the 1950s. 00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:15.679 Oh, they did. 00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:16.800 Okay, I don't know. 00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:26.400 Well, so anyway, um, he said the reason I went to the Navy was because I, if I wanted anything after high school as far as education, the military was the only shot that I had. 00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:26.719 Yeah. 00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:36.559 You know, my family didn't have the money, and he goes, We have worked really, really hard to give you the opportunity to go get a college degree. 00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:38.800 Because again, they were hearing it too. 00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:42.800 I was hearing it for yeah, you got it, and so it seemed that way to them. 00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:44.880 Well, it and it seemed that way to me too. 00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:53.199 And so went to Waldorf and loved it, obviously, and here we are, you know, advocating for Waldorf University and and hoping for the future. 00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:57.440 Um, and then again, I just I yeah, it's an outmoded system. 00:59:57.519 --> 01:00:01.039 I think even the people that are in education recognize that it's an outmoded system. 01:00:01.119 --> 01:00:06.400 That I don't I'm not opposed to brick and mortar, it's a great part of life, but we're paying a lot of money for a social experience. 01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:20.960 There is an education that goes with it, but in liberal arts, you can come up with a curriculum that might be just dang dynamic and dynamite, you know, just uh and you're basically sitting at home reading the great art work, the works of the world and studying art and and all that other stuff. 01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:29.280 And there's all these other you know, sentimental arguments that go with why that's not the same experience, and it's that's correct, it's not the same experience, maybe this, but that's part of the problem. 01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:35.679 So I guess my sum all that up, it's like, well, if you be you'll have to become innovative. 01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:48.480 You'll have to be you'll have to figure out what the hybrid is, you'll have to figure out the justification in a world that says, I don't think that your four years of vacation for my child is worth it, you know, paying for at these at at prices. 01:00:48.559 --> 01:00:51.199 And and nobody has ever asked why college costs so much. 01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:58.079 They they say why student loans can't be, you know, paid for by somebody else, but then nobody turns around and says, hey, why does it cost so much? 01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:02.639 My insight into college, by the way, and I don't mean I've I've uh I've had uh you know Dr. 01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:08.239 Alsop on on my other show uh a couple of years ago, and we talked about it directly. 01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:16.960 Like when I recruited in in the in the National Guard, and I believe it's still this exact same thing, every college in America has probably got the same bottom line or very similar bottom line. 01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:22.159 It's right around, I don't know if it's still this number, but it's in that fifteen to twenty thousand dollar per head range, period. 01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:24.159 Yeah, but that's what that's what you really need. 01:01:24.320 -->

01:01:31.440 The rest of the whatever they whatever they say that they're they're cost that they're what this is this is a sixty thousand dollar a year school. 01:01:31.679 --> 01:01:32.159 No, it's not. 01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:40.320 That's just what you say because we want you to come in and we want you to say, I don't want to get a I mean, I want to get a sixty thousand dollar a year education. 01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:41.599 It's really valuable. 01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:47.119 But if I could get that for like twenty-five or thirty, now I'm getting a deal. 01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:48.239 It's half off, man. 01:01:48.320 --> 01:01:53.119 I'm getting this this because somebody else is making up what the value of the education is worth. 01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:54.880 Like prime days list price. 01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:55.119 Yeah. 01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:58.320 It's like when they say, if you're buying two, you get if you buy three, you get one free. 01:01:58.559 --> 01:01:59.599 Like checking out a Kohl's. 01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:00.880 Yeah, you save this much. 01:02:01.039 --> 01:02:01.199 Yeah. 01:02:01.360 --> 01:02:03.039 And it's like it's crazy, honey. 01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:03.599 Let's go back. 01:02:03.679 --> 01:02:05.760 Let's spend some more money so we can save a bunch. 01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:07.360 It's made up, is what I'm saying. 01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:13.440 And I don't know what the bottom line number is, and I don't even care as a sales guy that that is even something that I care. 01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:17.280 Like if you can look, if you can get somebody to pay full price, good for you. 01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:18.559 You're a hell of a salesman. 01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:22.239 And if that person's happy and they're happy and you're happy, that's a good deal. 01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:23.440 That's what a deal is. 01:02:23.599 --> 01:02:27.280 And but most people aren't going to want to pay less price, and certainly not athletes. 01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:38.960 And it's got to be concerning to higher education as a business, as a model, that it's becoming culturally normative to like, why do you need to go get a degree? 01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:39.280 Yeah. 01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:45.199 You can go to trade school, you can go into the military, you can do a lot of things, you can start your own business. 01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:45.599 Yeah. 01:02:45.760 --> 01:03:10.079 You know, and it's uh a coworker and I talk quite a bit about um, I I like to call him uneducated, you know, because there was a there was a I think it was New York Times came out during the caucuses, um Trump's second term, and uh you know, he wanted to kind of get that experience of small town in Iowa caucus. 01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:13.119 So he chose Hancock County, and that's wonderful. 01:03:13.360 --> 01:03:19.599 And um very polite dude, um, very inquisitive, obviously intelligent. 01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:30.079 But uh when he wrote the article, he characterized the majority of the people in this part of the world vastly uneducated. 01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:30.880 Yeah. 01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:49.679 So that's because that's because more than a quarter of the people that were there do not have a post-secondary degree, they don't have an associate's degree, they don't have a bachelor's degree, so they are considered uneducated, which is when you read that and go, wow, those people, they probably marry family. 01:03:50.480 --> 01:03:52.639 So they don't have teeth, they're just dumb. 01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:53.440 Now there's a difference. 01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:56.239 They probably think the New Deal was a bad idea. 01:03:56.400 --> 01:03:57.679 They're so stupid. 01:03:58.719 --> 01:04:00.400 Oh, they can't even go down that road. 01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:05.360 But it's the difference between educated and intelligent, and there is a significant difference. 01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:10.400 And I think some people are saying, look, I just need to be intelligent, I don't necessarily need to be educated. 01:04:10.800 --> 01:04:21.920 Um, some of the greatest stories of successes in this wonderful country, um, and here, even in our beloved town, are are people that had an idea. 01:04:22.079 --> 01:04:22.400 Yeah. 01:04:22.559 --> 01:04:26.159 And they may obviously, like when we talk about John Kay, he was educated. 01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:27.760 He was a mortician by trade. 01:04:27.920 --> 01:04:28.159 Yeah. 01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:31.119 Um, but at the same time, it's one of those things he had an idea. 01:04:31.199 --> 01:04:33.440 He was innovative and he's willing to take risks. 01:04:33.599 --> 01:04:37.039 And so that's got to be quite concerning for higher education. 01:04:37.199 --> 01:04:41.199 That there's more and more people out there saying, Do you really, do you really need this? 01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:48.639 And so our selling point would be, okay, let's have something at Waldorf that can be valuable after you graduate. 01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:48.880 Yeah. 01:04:49.119 --> 01:05:11.360 But then you can go spend four years doing something you love, playing, playing football, playing volleyball, playing baseball, basketball, wrestling, yeah, I think hockey, whatever there is, like you have the opportunity to do this for four years and then allow that passion to help pay for an egg science degree or an ag business degree or something like that. 01:05:11.519 --> 01:05:17.920 And again, that's it's gotta be very difficult for a place like Waldorf because they've always been a liberal arts institution. 01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:21.440 And um well, they're not inventing new liqueurs over there. 01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:31.039 I mean, at the the real they're it they're gonna the safe the safe bet is always what everybody else is already doing, uh, and it will never gonna be the first ones to do much. 01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:35.920 And that's that and it's not a big enough school where you can really afford to to take a big thing.

01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:41.840 It's not like you can just stand up a an educational program, you know, in oh, we've been talking for over an hour. 01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:45.519 It's not like you can just like stand it up and it's like, well, now we're doing egg business. 01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:46.559 Like you have to get accredited. 01:05:46.639 --> 01:05:48.639 No, you I mean, it's just like every other mafia. 01:05:48.719 --> 01:05:54.719 The education mafia is like gonna make sure that you gotta be overseen and uh overseen and you know, accredited and all that other stuff. 01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:57.599 So it's a two, three, I don't know how many long, it's a long term seats situation. 01:05:57.760 --> 01:05:58.159 Yeah, for sure. 01:05:58.320 --> 01:05:59.519 So maybe there are like all these incredible. 01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:03.679 Innovative programs that are already underworks and they're coming out in a few years. 01:06:03.920 --> 01:06:05.599 And we'ren't great to know that. 01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:11.440 Wouldn't it be great to hear from our unit this and folks just show us the pictures, man? 01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:13.920 Yeah, we want the pictures, but this is our school. 01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:19.519 This is our school as much as it is anybody else's, and damn it, we're proud of it. 01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:22.239 I'm I wear Waldorf everywhere. 01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:22.559 Yeah. 01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:28.719 And because I am proud to be an alum, I am proud to be part of this football program. 01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:31.360 I don't care about winning and losing damn games. 01:06:31.519 --> 01:06:41.760 It's like Saturday, being able to embrace these young men, telling them that you love them and mean it, and looking forward to what their life is on the other side. 01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:43.119 That's what's truly important. 01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:45.840 That's what that's what I'm passionate about. 01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:57.920 And it's one of those if if we are blowing smoke, if we are saying if the university is like, My God, we were gonna do e business, we were gonna make the announcement in two years, then tell us. 01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:00.239 This is the direction that our university is going. 01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:01.679 I don't care about facilities. 01:07:01.760 --> 01:07:03.119 I don't credit. 01:07:03.199 --> 01:07:04.000 I don't care about credit. 01:07:04.159 --> 01:07:06.400 No, they haven't thought of that idea or any of those. 01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:07.280 Oh, who cares? 01:07:07.519 --> 01:07:10.480 And I'm and they'll be like, I'll be like, good, and he came up with that. 01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:13.280 Like, I'm happy to give you the credit where credit is due. 01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:14.719 I don't want you know what I mean. 01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:17.679 If it's already in the works, just tell us what shows the pictures. 01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:19.840 Yield of dreams, the son of a gun. 01:07:20.639 --> 01:07:22.000 If you

build it, it will come. 01:07:22.239 --> 01:07:23.360 And that's what the money. 01:07:23.679 --> 01:07:24.079 That's right. 01:07:24.320 --> 01:07:25.519 Two two observations. 01:07:25.679 --> 01:07:29.679 One, I started giggling because I had never put this together before, but you're right, John K. 01:07:29.840 --> 01:07:31.599 Hansen was a mortician. 01:07:31.760 --> 01:07:32.239 Yes, he was. 01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:35.519 And he was the creator of Winnebago Industries. 01:07:35.599 --> 01:07:39.599 What an um, what a novel idea where you're used to putting people in boxes. 01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:44.159 No, box on wheels, which is like, let's get into this box a little bit earlier. 01:07:44.239 --> 01:07:44.960 You see what I'm saying? 01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:48.400 Enjoy life, see the world before you're in a different box. 01:07:48.559 --> 01:07:48.719 Yeah. 01:07:49.280 --> 01:07:51.199 Um and uh we love Winnebago too. 01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:56.559 So um, but uh the other the the other thing is uh, and this is not my idea. 01:07:56.719 --> 01:08:00.960 This is uh my well, this is my wife Heidi idea, and it's not even her idea. 01:08:01.039 --> 01:08:07.119 It comes from, believe it or not, the incredibly conservative school of business at the uh University of Walt Disney. 01:08:07.280 --> 01:08:12.800 Um and and it boils down to this it's a she went down there many, many years ago. 01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:18.159 Uh uh they have univers Disney's got a hospitality university as well. 01:08:18.319 --> 01:08:20.479 I don't know if that's what it's called, something like that. 01:08:20.880 --> 01:08:28.079 Look, it's hard to beat Walt Disney World and then and their whole enterprise when it comes to like having that magical experience. 01:08:28.479 --> 01:08:35.920 People pay a lot of money, they mortgage their homes so they can take their precious little daughters to go be princesses in Florida or wherever. 01:08:36.319 --> 01:08:37.279 It's successful. 01:08:37.600 --> 01:08:47.760 And they do it because they're, you know, pretty tough on on how to how what their brand and how their how they people should what the experience should be. 01:08:48.399 --> 01:09:04.079 Waldorf would do well, like Litzen R V did, to send somebody or several people down to that university, spend the time to go there, and then come back and enact all of the things, have the freedom to enact all of the things that they did. 01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:14.800 I'm not gonna use uh Litzen as an example, other than that, that's similar to what they did, and they're that then the number one dealer in North America for Winnebago for over a decade. 01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:17.840 I mean it's you know and it's another great experience store. 01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:18.720 Absolutely. 01:09:19.439 --> 01:09:26.479 But what it boils down to, as she explained it to me, because I did not go there, I'm not as huge of a fan as Disney, as you might imagine. 01:09:26.640 --> 01:10:06.960 But what I do admire what they did there, they said um in every department, find you've you got all these brilliant people uh that are in there, and they can come up with a hundred things or a thousand things that can be improved, little things in their individual departments, whether it is all the teachers have to dress like they have a professional degree, you know, uh or we have to have everybody has to be called, you know, if you're a doctor, then it's doctor, you know, helm, if it's you know, whatever, and and or or whatever they're whatever they come up with, however they would like their little universe to exist, because you're creating a magical kingdom of Waldorf University. 01:10:07.119 --> 01:10:11.760 And every department does that, including all of our sports, every team, the athletic department overall. 01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:18.479 And then if every every department has a hundred things that they can that don't cost, we need a new stadium. 01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:18.880 Right. 01:10:19.039 --> 01:10:19.520 None of that. 01:10:19.840 --> 01:10:32.640 It's like maybe you dress nicer, maybe you all of your maybe you're all of your, you know, all of your people that are working game days have the same thing from the bookstore as a pullover, so they are easily identifiable and they're the only one if it's just whatever. 01:10:32.960 --> 01:10:34.640 All of those million things, right? 01:10:34.880 --> 01:10:42.159 If you can enact 100 things, small things, and you can accomplish that, you are now 100 times better in that department. 01:10:42.399 --> 01:10:46.800 If it's a thousand, if you keep doing that every year over the course of a year, you're a thousand times better. 01:10:47.119 --> 01:10:49.199 And your weight room might be still the same. 01:10:50.399 --> 01:10:52.000 You may not have a bubble. 01:10:52.239 --> 01:10:57.600 You might not have you know, but it's like your English department is a hundred times better. 01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:05.439 You're over your your your I'm not picking on the English department, just like every department, you know, your maintenance department is a hundred and eleven times better. 01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:08.560 Well, and who's gonna know better than them at that low level? 01:11:08.800 --> 01:11:09.199 They would know. 01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:11.680 No, you don't need somebody from the top down, like they know. 01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:12.319 Yep. 01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:13.840 That almost never works. 01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:14.159 No. 01:11:14.399 --> 01:11:32.399 You don't need, I mean, that's not it what it what it what uh leadership does is it is it provides a vision without the detail, and then it entrusts and empowers the people that are in the organization to take it, to buy in and to run with it. 01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:34.239 Because now they have bought in. 01:11:34.479 --> 01:11:37.279 Now they actually are stakeholders. 01:11:38.159 --> 01:11:38.640 Great name. 01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:45.680

I hate it when people that are in academia use terms like stakeholders, like they're business experts, you know, or whatever. 01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:48.960 Just all but that's but now they actually are. 01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:50.399 They do actually have a stake in it. 01:11:50.479 --> 01:11:50.800 Yeah. 01:11:51.039 --> 01:11:55.359 And um make your employer more successful, and let them fail. 01:11:55.760 --> 01:11:58.000 We're gonna you try something new in our department. 01:11:58.079 --> 01:12:05.600 It doesn't cost, but it's a hundred dollars, and we're gonna do this during the entire year, and you should be able to go back and review if that was successful. 01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:09.439 And part of what the success needs to be is what is the student experience? 01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:13.199 Because at the end of the day, those are the people walking in the gates of Walt Disney World. 01:12:13.520 --> 01:12:17.920 And if you want them to come back and have that experience, then you need to do everything that they're doing. 01:12:18.319 --> 01:12:21.199 You're kind of promoting everything, you're making the experience real. 01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:22.319 It's magical. 01:12:22.560 --> 01:12:32.079 Even if your magical experience is like, I think that's is I'm not gonna say black mold, but I mean I'm just like, is my name written in black mold and J and L? 01:12:32.399 --> 01:12:36.399 You know, and and whatever it would be, you know, if that's film it. 01:12:37.199 --> 01:12:37.600 It's funny. 01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:38.479 I mean, don't film that. 01:12:38.800 --> 01:12:41.680 Really isn't it more about not being scared? 01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:44.880 Yeah, isn't it more about not being scared to take chances to vision? 01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:48.960 And I'm not saying this isn't going on because I I hope we're so wrong. 01:12:49.119 --> 01:12:56.640 I hope, I hope that that we get an email or hey, text the show, folks, yeah, uh, something to say this is what we're doing. 01:12:56.720 --> 01:12:58.399 Yeah, and I'll oh that's great. 01:12:58.560 --> 01:13:00.880 Now why don't you start telling people? 01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:02.479 Yeah, tell your parent. 01:13:03.119 --> 01:13:09.279 17 to 20,000 people claim Waldorf University as their alma mater. 01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:13.680 If those people, if just those people gave$100 a year. 01:13:13.840 --> 01:13:14.000 Yeah. 01:13:14.319 --> 01:13:15.279 Anybody else do math? 01:13:15.439 --> 01:13:15.680 No. 01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:18.000 If they only gave$100 a year, yeah, it's a lot. 01:13:18.239 --> 01:13:24.640 And so that would I'm not saying money solves everything, but at the same time, let's vision. 01:13:24.960 --> 01:13:30.399 Don't be afraid of taking chances and don't be afraid of criticism. 01:13:30.560 --> 01:13:34.560 Yeah, don't be afraid of somebody calling your BS when it is. 01:13:34.720 --> 01:13:35.039 Yeah. 01:13:35.199 --> 01:13:38.079 And go ahead, because that's part of leadership too. 01:13:38.159 --> 01:13:38.319 Yeah. 01:13:38.479 --> 01:13:45.760 Is that you know, hey, it rolls downhill, but at the same time, you gotta understand that once it rolls downhill, somebody's gonna pick it up and throw it back at you. 01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:47.119 Be prepared for that. 01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:51.840 Money comes into our organization just like every other organization that's not profit. 01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:55.680 They come in because they see what they what you're trying to do and they believe in it and they want to help out. 01:13:55.840 --> 01:13:56.239 I mean. 01:13:56.319 --> 01:14:02.880 And then and so if you have your entire list of alumni that see what you're trying to do, see what you're doing and want to help out, then fine. 01:14:02.960 --> 01:14:10.159 If you have to go kick kiss butt and fly across the country to hope that the Stein person is going to remember you, I guess that's part of the job as well. 01:14:10.399 --> 01:14:20.640 But it's um it's not where our uh all of our alum the problem with you know the two-year legacy of the university is that I mean, all of those people went on to go to another school, more than likely. 01:14:20.800 --> 01:14:25.600 And so they have uh their last two years or whatever are part of some other story. 01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:37.920 And that's why when you get to that stupid baseball movie with Sean Aston that took place in Norway, Iowa, he's got the Luther t-shirt on, and even though he started at Waldorf in the whole movie, and it drives me nuts because he finished at Luther, and that's a lot of what happened. 01:14:38.159 --> 01:14:49.840 But the reality is that you know I have got many, many friends that I still consider friends from Waldorf University that consider Waldorf their school. 01:14:50.159 --> 01:14:51.520 They do because it's where they started. 01:14:51.760 --> 01:14:54.239 Well, it's where they started, and yeah, they may have an affinity. 01:14:54.399 --> 01:14:54.640 Yeah. 01:14:54.800 --> 01:14:57.279 I graduated from Northwest Missouri State University. 01:14:57.359 --> 01:14:59.600 I loved the Bearcats, I loved Maryville. 01:14:59.760 --> 01:15:00.800 I'm a Waldorf guy. 01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:02.319 Yeah, I'm a Waldorf guy. 01:15:02.399 --> 01:15:03.439 I'm a Waldorf alum. 01:15:03.520 --> 01:15:07.199 And not that I want to say that I didn't graduate from Northwest, but I'm Waldorf. 01:15:07.279 --> 01:15:08.239 Yeah, that's everything. 01:15:08.399 --> 01:15:09.439 I bleed purple. 01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:09.840 Yeah. 01:15:09.920 --> 01:15:11.920 They can look, it's it's do that. 01:15:12.079 --> 01:15:15.119 Go find your list of a thousand things that you can improve on. 01:15:15.279 --> 01:15:19.119 Improve all of those things, and then you'll be a thousand times better next year. 01:15:19.199 --> 01:15:20.000 That's what you need to do. 01:15:20.079 --> 01:15:21.119 And share with the world too. 01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:22.720 Like put

yourself, hold yourself accountable. 01:15:22.800 --> 01:15:25.439 Yeah, you know, and and really, and and really get up. 01:15:25.520 --> 01:15:27.840 That's what we we would what we would get, I get behind that stuff. 01:15:27.920 --> 01:15:32.159 You know, students can see what you're doing, and it's and and it and it's a good thing. 01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:36.560 I would, you know, it might cost a little bit of money to do some things. 01:15:36.720 --> 01:15:38.479 They have some money, they've been collecting money. 01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:40.720 I don't think that they necessarily have a good plan. 01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:41.760 Maybe they do have a great plan. 01:15:41.840 --> 01:15:47.520 Maybe we're gonna get a letter from Ray Bibi and he's like, suckers, we've had this plan the whole time. 01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:56.399 You know, tomorrow there's gonna be some huge release that Waldorf announces a 3-5 and 10-year visioning plan and is just awesome. 01:15:56.560 --> 01:15:57.359 And you know what? 01:15:57.600 --> 01:16:00.960 I will eat every ounce of crow on that plate. 01:16:01.119 --> 01:16:02.079 I'm not gonna eat anything. 01:16:02.159 --> 01:16:04.960 And I was like, I'm just saying, I'm gonna be glad that they It's like, great. 01:16:05.039 --> 01:16:07.279 Um fortuitous timing, let's call it that. 01:16:07.359 --> 01:16:08.800 Yeah, why did we have to start talking about it? 01:16:09.680 --> 01:16:14.720 Hey, but what if I will say this might cost a little bit of money, but Adam, you know what I'm talking about. 01:16:14.880 --> 01:16:30.399 Let's go ahead and figure out how to put the uh get the HVAC system working on in the uh in the field house because the fact that the uh poor cousins of the GPAC, Waldorf University, has to spend more time employing people to wipe up sweaty floors is embarrassing. 01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:35.119 How about the tens of thousands of dollars in equipment that had mold all over it and the Djack? 01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:36.319 Is that right? 01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:38.960 Because and again, I'm not gonna Oh my God. 01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:41.520 I mean, so anyway, we're not gonna go. 01:16:42.159 --> 01:16:43.840 Listen, we want your kids to come to Waldorf. 01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:52.159 Uh now, and again, the I will say that that maintenance and and the football staff and anybody in that building was quite responsive. 01:16:52.239 --> 01:16:57.279 That as soon as it was like, ooh, we got some issues, well, once we realized it, boom, they were all over it. 01:16:57.359 --> 01:17:00.159 We got a I mean, we handled the problem. 01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:04.159 Yeah, you know, but at the same time, it's like I don't know what kind of damage has been done. 01:17:04.319 --> 01:17:07.600 But you know, we we're getting close to an hour and a half. 01:17:07.840 --> 01:17:08.399 That's awesome. 01:17:08.560 --> 01:17:11.920 It is, it's good, but and Adam has spoken for at less at least eight minutes. 01:17:12.159 -->

01:17:15.600 And that's why I'm saying, Troy, that why don't we hear from the smartest guy in the room? 01:17:15.760 --> 01:17:16.159 Yeah, Adam. 01:17:16.399 --> 01:17:16.960 The most intelligent. 01:17:17.279 --> 01:17:21.600 I don't see anybody else here, but I know that's why we're talking about you, Helmer. 01:17:21.920 --> 01:17:23.680 Yeah, I I know. 01:17:23.760 --> 01:17:29.680 I just these aren't gonna be three old guys yelling into the podcast world. 01:17:29.840 --> 01:17:31.760 Um, we're gonna have some conversations. 01:17:31.920 --> 01:17:41.760 I've already been invited to visit with some people, and and you know, I'm gonna share our perspective, not saying anything I say or we think is gonna get done. 01:17:41.920 --> 01:17:45.840 You know, there's two sides, but I'm gonna they ask my opinion, I'm gonna give it. 01:17:46.399 --> 01:17:46.800 That's good. 01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:47.680 I'm glad to hear that. 01:17:47.920 --> 01:17:54.800 You know, and I've heard from multiple coaches, you know, they weren't surprised that they wanted to visit with me and they're gonna listen. 01:17:54.960 --> 01:17:56.159 Doesn't mean we're gonna get everything. 01:17:56.319 --> 01:17:58.079 Doesn't mean the coaches get everything they want either. 01:17:58.319 --> 01:17:58.880 Of course not. 01:17:59.359 --> 01:18:00.720 But do what we can. 01:18:00.880 --> 01:18:01.119 Yeah. 01:18:01.439 --> 01:18:02.239 For sure. 01:18:02.479 --> 01:18:02.880 Yeah. 01:18:03.039 --> 01:18:06.720 I know you've got some things on your agenda that you're gonna talk about with them. 01:18:06.880 --> 01:18:08.239 Um excited to hear them. 01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:09.199 Probably gonna address. 01:18:09.359 --> 01:18:14.960 I know one of your passions is maybe taking a look at the tailgating situation that we in, you know, we tried this year. 01:18:15.359 --> 01:18:23.600 I mean, yeah, in the in the grand scheme that's pretty minor, but absolutely we we want to make like say, we want to make it big time as or as big time as we can. 01:18:23.760 --> 01:18:23.920 Yeah. 01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:26.800 And there's small things we could do that can help. 01:18:27.119 --> 01:18:28.319 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:18:28.560 --> 01:18:40.960 There was a definite I mean, there was a definite downturn, but you know somebody said, you know, uh the game on the last game, we could have not charged and it could have been still the same number of people. 01:18:41.119 --> 01:18:45.680 You know, I mean it's just uh it's been a tough couple of years and and things have started to dwindle down. 01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:52.079 The weather wasn't bad on the last game of the year on senior day, but it was cool enough that people not not want to go out. 01:18:52.319 --> 01:18:59.760 Um so yeah, we just like say we make we try to make everything a a big time experience. 01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:05.840 And and it should be a big time experience for that's the magical kingdom experience that we're trying to achieve here. 01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:11.840 I mean, listen, I mean when we say we're the best small time small college football experience in America, we know that's a branding statement. 01:19:12.239 --> 01:19:13.119 Like we know that. 01:19:13.359 --> 01:19:19.600 But it's also you know, part of it is you you s y that's your that's what your that's what your goal is. 01:19:19.840 --> 01:19:20.000 Yeah. 01:19:20.159 --> 01:19:20.800 How do I make that? 01:19:21.199 --> 01:19:22.880 Does it does it oh you have to win every game? 01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:23.279 No. 01:19:23.439 --> 01:19:23.680 Nope. 01:19:24.079 --> 01:19:27.039 You have to, you know, do you have to have the the newest stuff all the time? 01:19:27.199 --> 01:19:28.079 No, I don't think so. 01:19:28.239 --> 01:19:29.920 But the experience does have to be the best. 01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:32.399 So how do we make that experience the best all the time? 01:19:32.800 --> 01:19:34.640 And that's what that's what the focus should be. 01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:37.279 So I think that's where we need to head. 01:19:37.520 --> 01:19:44.880 That that would probably whoever wrote that um you know started a little fire. 01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:46.720 Um in a lot of people. 01:19:46.880 --> 01:19:49.439 I haven't met anybody that disagreed with what the statement said. 01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:54.079 No, I haven't also gone and done a huge survey is people care. 01:19:54.319 --> 01:19:57.840 They you know, there are some people who just want to throw stones, and that's not what we're doing. 01:19:57.920 --> 01:19:58.960 We want to, you know. 01:19:59.920 --> 01:20:03.520 Yeah, uh and that that post didn't seem to just throw stones. 01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:05.520 It was somebody that's highly concerned. 01:20:05.680 --> 01:20:08.560 Yeah, and it's somebody on the inside which should be more concerning. 01:20:08.800 --> 01:20:15.279 And again, they might have some sort of ulterior motive or some sort of skewed opinion. 01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:15.680 Yeah. 01:20:15.840 --> 01:20:16.560 Uh I don't know. 01:20:16.720 --> 01:20:17.920 I don't know who did it. 01:20:18.079 --> 01:20:19.439 I really want to know. 01:20:19.680 --> 01:20:20.159 Yeah, I really do. 01:20:20.479 --> 01:20:20.960 I do too. 01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:23.359 Yeah, I really want to know. 01:20:23.520 --> 01:20:47.039 And only to to sit down and have a conversation with them and and find out, you know what could what can we do to work together so that those those concerns, those complaints, those indictments, if you will, at times, in this statement that you put out on social media is something that we can work on together with the university. 01:20:47.119 --> 01:20:50.000 And not I'm not talking about from the gridiron club. 01:20:50.079 --> 01:20:52.800 Obviously, if the gridiron club can do something, we would. 01:20:52.960 --> 01:20:53.119 Yeah. 01:20:53.279 --> 01:20:56.880 Um, because it's like you'd said earlier, Troy, we we get things

done. 01:20:57.199 --> 01:20:57.439 Yeah. 01:20:57.680 --> 01:20:58.000 We just do. 01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:04.800 And and and it goes, you know, it's not it's not, you know, it's in it's you know, it's brand it's be it beyond um Dr. 01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:05.760 Allsop, too. 01:21:05.840 --> 01:21:07.439 I mean, he's the president, but I mean there's a whole board. 01:21:07.840 --> 01:21:08.479 Yeah, he's accountable. 01:21:08.720 --> 01:21:13.439 There's a whole board above him, and I have the same questions for them as well. 01:21:13.680 --> 01:21:15.199 How engaged are they? 01:21:15.359 --> 01:21:21.359 Um, I did, you know, we did look up who their, you know, yeah, we talked about who their leaders are in in that organization. 01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:34.479 And it is kind of the k the students are kind of great in their own papers in that situation, um, as far as you know how much actual insight that is useful do you have from um folks outside of the organization. 01:21:34.640 --> 01:21:40.000 But um, you know, it's Waldorf is okay. 01:21:40.079 --> 01:21:41.039 Like it's it's doing okay. 01:21:41.119 --> 01:21:47.119 Like financially they're fine, they're stable, they're scared to death of putting putting themselves in a situation that they were in at the turn of the century, right? 01:21:47.279 --> 01:21:51.119 And we've been around for longer than some of the schools have been around in the G PAC. 01:21:51.279 --> 01:21:58.319 We've had our football program is older by 120 years uh than uh the the team that beat us on Saturday, you know. 01:21:58.479 --> 01:22:04.399 So it's we've got a tradition, there's a lot of people that love us, and we love, you know, the university. 01:22:04.640 --> 01:22:10.319 So uh you know we just wanna we wanna we want to see it get corrected. 01:22:10.399 --> 01:22:20.560 And it doesn't have to be big expensive things, but you have to define what it is, and you can have a thousand of them and you could just accomplish that every year. 01:22:20.720 --> 01:22:28.640 And and in and in a short period of time, um it may not seem like a big deal, but next thing you know, you're at a magic kingdom, and that's what we want Waldorf to be. 01:22:29.439 --> 01:22:36.239 So uh leadership at Waldorf or whoever at Waldorf that is listening to this, because I'm hoping it gets widely distributed. 01:22:36.319 --> 01:22:38.720 Like, can you believe they read that? 01:22:39.039 --> 01:22:43.119 Can you believe these uneducated people from Yeah, I got a bachelor's degree. 01:22:43.279 --> 01:22:44.159 Yeah, I know, right. 01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:46.399 And not uneducated, yeah. 01:22:46.479 --> 01:22:47.119 We're educated. 01:22:47.520 --> 01:22:47.840 Stupid. 01:22:48.079 --> 01:22:49.119 We're educated. 01:22:49.439 --> 01:22:52.479 So uh but New Deal's still a bad idea. 01:22:53.199 --> 01:22:54.159 Yeah, it is. 01:22:54.399 --> 01:23:11.279 Um but the reality is, folks, is that if you think that uh Troy and oh I'm not gonna speak for Troy and Adam, but if you feel like we're just some blowhards that don't care and want to complain about Waldorf University, I hope you really listened and understand that we want Waldorf to be successful. 01:23:11.439 --> 01:23:15.680 And if you say, well, then step up, we need your help, call. 01:23:16.239 --> 01:23:17.039 Call me. 01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:19.279 You probably have my number. 01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:22.479 I I get lots of calls from people at Waldorf. 01:23:22.560 --> 01:23:29.279 Yeah, and I would love whether it's a conversation or if it's uh I uh we don't know what to do, what did you mean? 01:23:29.439 --> 01:23:32.079 You said this, and I'll stand behind anything I said today. 01:23:32.159 --> 01:23:32.960 Yeah, 100%. 01:23:33.279 --> 01:23:34.560 Andy Buffington. 01:23:34.720 --> 01:23:35.760 Yeah, two F's. 01:23:36.159 --> 01:23:38.159 Except for uh uh Chris Broy. 01:23:38.319 --> 01:23:40.159 I don't think he was actually the person who wrote it. 01:23:40.239 --> 01:23:42.479 I just you're gonna withdraw that. 01:23:42.640 --> 01:23:43.199 I'm gonna withdraw. 01:23:43.439 --> 01:23:44.399 I will take that back now. 01:23:44.720 --> 01:23:45.119 I get it. 01:23:45.279 --> 01:23:51.520 I mean it could have been, but well, folks, I think we talked this to death, but um, you cannot see the post. 01:23:51.600 --> 01:23:52.960 Um, it's not available. 01:23:53.119 --> 01:23:56.479 I won't be sending it to anyone other than my wife, like I'd said earlier. 01:23:57.119 --> 01:24:09.359 Um, but uh just understand that it's out there and it should generate conversation among you folks and people that love this university, not just the football team. 01:24:09.520 --> 01:24:09.920 Yeah. 01:24:10.239 --> 01:24:11.119 Every part of it. 01:24:11.439 --> 01:24:12.640 And that's how those things change. 01:24:12.800 --> 01:24:24.159 If you have an if you have the environment that you want to get to, uh that isn't, you know, millions of dollars in in uh cost, uh, but you have that I'm just gonna stick with it, that Magic Kingdom feel right now. 01:24:24.239 --> 01:24:25.439 And it has kind of has to be. 01:24:25.520 --> 01:24:26.800 You don't have to go to Disney World. 01:24:26.880 --> 01:24:32.000 That's not doesn't there's no requirement in God's law that says you need to entertain your family by going to Orlando. 01:24:32.239 --> 01:24:35.279 But people for them, it's a giant goal because it's a special experience. 01:24:35.520 --> 01:24:38.960 That too is the modern example of a four-year brick and mortar organization. 01:24:39.119 --> 01:24:40.239 You don't have to go. 01:24:40.479 --> 01:24:46.560 It's because you want to go there and it's a money you've set aside to go and do, and that's what this experience is. 01:24:46.640 --> 01:24:47.760 So make it magical. 01:24:47.920 --> 01:25:11.439 If they do that, um then you will see that even if you have a losing record in any sport, you're still gonna find the players that you

need to turn that record upside down and make it a winning record because they're gonna recognize then they are in a magical kingdom that fits their needs, and that is um you know, that's what we have in a small degree now to be because we've got people that are here because of that. 01:25:11.520 --> 01:25:17.760 And Waldorf is special to all of the kids that graduated and are graduating, and the seniors that we recognize, it's still special to us. 01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:22.159 Um, so that part is true, it just needs to be improved upon, and I think that was the whole point. 01:25:22.399 --> 01:25:22.960 Yes. 01:25:23.279 --> 01:25:23.760 All right. 01:25:23.920 --> 01:25:26.560 Well, unless anybody's got anything else, I think that's gonna do it. 01:25:26.880 --> 01:25:27.359 It's fun. 01:25:27.520 --> 01:25:28.399 I will say this. 01:25:28.640 --> 01:25:30.560 We uh we might take a break for a little bit. 01:25:30.640 --> 01:25:31.680 Thanksgiving is coming up. 01:25:31.760 --> 01:25:41.199 We're gonna put we're gonna try to put some things together um because it's fun to it's just fun to hang out and and to have that uh weekly conversation. 01:25:41.920 --> 01:25:46.479 Um and but but we will definitely be doing our bullseys again in January. 01:25:46.560 --> 01:25:47.359 That's a special time. 01:25:47.439 --> 01:25:49.600 That's the big that's the next big event for us. 01:25:49.840 --> 01:25:52.640 The kids take off next week. 01:25:52.800 --> 01:26:04.640 This is a Friday, they will they will have finals next week, and then they will be donezo, and we will not see them back on campus for the uh until mid-January. 01:26:04.880 --> 01:26:06.880 Yep, and we will have we'll let everybody know. 01:26:07.039 --> 01:26:12.159 Uh stay tuned to our socials and everything else about uh about the Bullsey Awards. 01:26:12.239 --> 01:26:12.560 Right. 01:26:13.279 --> 01:26:15.680 Take uh take the opportunity and plan to attend. 01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:17.199 Yeah, sign up for the newsletter. 01:26:17.359 --> 01:26:18.000 That's the best way. 01:26:18.159 --> 01:26:19.520 There's a link in the in the show notes. 01:26:19.600 --> 01:26:20.720 Sign up for the newsletter. 01:26:20.880 --> 01:26:28.000 Um, that way, you know, we we won't be sending out fan Fridays every Friday like you during the season, but that's how you know when things are happening. 01:26:28.319 --> 01:26:31.439 All hundred dollar donors get an invite to the Bullsey. 01:26:31.520 --> 01:26:33.920 So make sure if you're not a member yet, get signed up for that. 01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:38.640 And we all remember the new coaches, the impression the Bullseys put on them last year. 01:26:38.720 --> 01:26:40.239 You know, we kind of that was their first experience. 01:26:40.399 --> 01:26:42.560 He had no idea what he was walking into. 01:26:42.800 --> 01:26:49.199 No, they were absolutely it you could tell it was heartfelt like that they were sh blown away. 01:26:49.279 --> 01:26:50.319 Yeah,

that's what we're going for. 01:26:50.479 --> 01:26:51.359 That's exactly right. 01:26:51.520 --> 01:26:56.640 It's all part of making this place the best small college experience in America. 01:26:56.880 --> 01:26:57.600 That's right. 01:26:57.840 --> 01:27:01.760 All right, folks, that's gonna do it for this episode of the Waldorf Gridiron Club podcast. 01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:05.920 Uh we love Waldorf. 01:27:06.880 --> 01:27:09.119 We love our Waldorf college. 01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:12.159 The school of I'm gold. 01:27:12.560 --> 01:27:15.279 All right, through thy beloved lobbies. 01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:17.520 No, you were you skipped. 01:27:17.680 --> 01:27:17.840 Sorry. 01:27:18.159 --> 01:27:18.960 Skipped a bunch of stuff. 01:27:19.039 --> 01:27:19.279 Yep. 01:27:19.359 --> 01:27:19.920 All right, folks. 01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:22.640 Uh, that's gonna do it for this episode of the Waldorf Good Iron Club Podcast. 01:27:22.720 --> 01:27:26.319 Thanks so much for listening, and uh, I hope you enjoyed this episode. 01:27:26.399 --> 01:27:32.479 For Troy Thompson, Adam Helm, this is Andy Buffington, and forever and always, go warriors. 01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:36.800 Football is the greatest team sport that the greatest. 01:27:40.132 --> 01:28:10.859 Thy places we will sing through thy good and lobby Theatre we echoes win We sing on pre-staps no more O loyalty and truth Some love and labor blending So the light the steps of youth We love our Waldorf college, the school of Vikings bold. 01:28:11.578 --> 01:28:16.698 We love our royal colors, the purple and the gold. 01:28:17.259 --> 01:28:28.298 Then hail, hail to Waldorf! Our Alma Mazza dear Make heaven's richest blessings crown every passing year. 01:28:28.779 --> 01:28:33.738 We love our Waldorf college, the school of Vikings hold. 01:28:34.458 --> 01:28:45.259 We love the royal colors, the purple and the gold, the hair, all hail to walk off, our lots of dear. 01:28:45.819 --> 01:28:51.099 May heaven's riches blessings crown every passing year. 01:28:53.738 --> 01:28:55.979 All hail to waldorf. 01:28:56.538 --> 01:28:58.859 All the lots of dear. 01:29:14.479 --> 01:29:22.399 If you give your all to it, you learn how to get up when you get knocked down, just like the life we live in. 01:29:22.720 --> 01:29:25.279 So it's it's a great game. 01:29:32.770 --> 01:29:35.010 The echoing atoms ring. 01:29:35.250 --> 01:29:40.050 We sing the precepts noble of loyalty and truth. 01:29:40.369 --> 01:29:45.329 Of love and labor blending to guide the steps of youth. 01:29:45.569 --> 01:29:50.210 We love our Waldorf college with our school of Vikings bold. 01:29:50.770 --> 01:29:55.489 We love our royal colours, the purple and the gold. 01:29:55.810 --> 01:29:58.369 Say hail, all hail to Waldorf. 01:29:58.529 --> 01:30:00.689 Oh, our mother dear. 01:30:01.010 --> 01:30:06.050 May Heaven's richest blessings, crown every blasting year. 01:30:08.050 --> 01:30:10.050 All hail from Waldorf. 01:30:10.770 --> 01:30:12.689 Oh my god, dear. 01:30:13.170 --> 01:30:18.210 May Heaven's richest blessings crown every passing year. 01:30:18.770 --> 01:30:20.529 These are person God wants you to be. 01:30:32.289 --> 01:30:35.489 Under the lights we fight the good fight. 01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:42.239 You can join the Waldorf Gridiron Club and be part of the best small college football experience team on the network. 01:30:42.640 --> 01:30:47.840 Just visit our website and get your membership level at Waldorf Gridiron Club.org. 01:30:50.319 --> 01:30:54.000 You can also click on the support the show link in the show notes to donate.