النص الكامل لحلقة KCAA: UnchainedTV: Animals, People, Planet! (Mon, 28 Jul, 2025)

hand. We're 77 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:52.120 going to take you to illegal logging sites. We're going 78 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:54.759 to take you to how a sanctuary should work. We're 79 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:57.279 going to take you to the cruelty of captivity, and 80 00:04:57.319 --> 00:04:59.199 we're going to show you firsthand so you can make 81 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:02.959 up your own mind about these elephants. And right now 82 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:05.639 there is a big push to remove all elephants from 83 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:09.720 all captivity purposes, and they've already moved and shut down 84 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:12.360 a few zoo exhibits. So we think there's a great 85 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:14.319 hope that we can make a change. The only thing 86 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:16.839 missing is a little bit more education, and we hope 87 00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:20.199 that this movie can really fill that patch and bring 88 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:23.720 people emotionally in to the story and really learn about 89 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:26.560 what's happened with elephants over the last fifty years. Which 90 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:29.079 you know, we're a big conservationists, we're vegans, and we 91 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:32.639 had no idea that this issue is happening. So it's 92 00:05:32.639 --> 00:05:34.399 happening right under all of our noses. 93 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:38.920 Well, I'm putting the link to your Indie Go Go campaign. 94 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:43.040 You can copy it, you can take a photograph of it. 95 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:47.920 Please go there for ten dollars. You can be involved 96 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:50.319 and you can also be an executive producer for a 97 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:51.600 ten thousand dollars. 98 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:52.720 It's really up to you. 99 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:57.720 But together we can, you know, build a movement, because 100 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:00.759 the plight of Billi and Tina should never be forgotten, 101 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:02.759 just like the plight of Harambe. 102 00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:06.680 The gorilla has not been forgotten, specifically. 103 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:09.240 Because of your film, because news reports come and go, 104 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:14.279 but documentaries stay. And that's why this documentary is so important. 105 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:18.120 So let's take a look at your film. You have 106 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:22.199 sort of an outtakes or a sizzle reel giving us 107 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:23.720 a sense of what you're going. 108 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:24.399 To be doing. 109 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:26.560 In Thailand. 110 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:29.600 Rooms one of the most important keystone species. 111 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:34.720 In the world, the elephant. The keystone species is essential 112 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:38.040 to the biodiversity in the area in which it lives, 113 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:42.959 and elephants are

essential for forest regeneration. They are also 114 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:48.439 listed as endangered and on the road to extinction, and 115 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:52.839 Asian elephants have passed the sentience tests, meaning they're self 116 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:57.480 aware and fully have an understanding that they're not free. 117 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:02.040 And with the Asian elephant popular down around seventy percent, 118 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:05.720 the newest form of captivity for profit will keep them 119 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:07.800 from bouncing back well. 120 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:10.279 Because we have so many elephants as suffer in a 121 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:19.680 different industry, the industry of locking ivory. This is also 122 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:24.319 certainly their life made them call extinction. 123 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:29.560 Other issues include traditions such as these traditional Buddhist carvings 124 00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:34.920 in ivory for. 125 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:39.639 The elephant performing and painting elephant. And this is the 126 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:42.519 torture did they have? They have no idea about what 127 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:43.519 is behind the scene. 128 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:51.279 It's absolutely extraordinary And I just hope that everybody pitches 129 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:53.720 in so that you can get the funds you need 130 00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:54.879 to finish your movie. 131 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:58.879 Tell us how harambe? 132 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:03.319 Because you made Harambe, and that really did keep the 133 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:08.480 issue of Harambe alive. Because these news reports, even if 134 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:11.639 they're national news reports, they come and go. But because 135 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:15.879 of your documentary, Harambe became sort of a catch phrase 136 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:21.360 for no primates in captivity. Is your new film that 137 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:26.240 you're kick starting to raise to finish going to basically 138 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:29.720 become a catch phrase for no elephants in captivity. 139 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:34.039 Ever, we definitely hope. So we definitely hope. So you know, 140 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:37.360 we take the perspective of animal rights as opposed to 141 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:40.679 say animal welfare, and what we want is to see 142 00:08:40.720 --> 00:08:44.240 these animals properly where they're supposed to be, and we 143 00:08:44.320 --> 00:08:46.879 really hope. You know, we were working on Arambe, we 144 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:49.440 noticed there were elephants in the zoo and they were 145 00:08:49.480 --> 00:08:51.919 just moving back and forth like this, and then we 146 00:08:51.960 --> 00:08:54.559 eventually learned, you know, in the video we saw with 147 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:56.879 Billy and Tina as well, that that is what they 148 00:08:56.879 --> 00:09:00.600 tend to call zookosis, which is the stress of this movement, 149 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:02.840 and it's something Zucosis is something we want to bring 150 00:09:02.840 --> 00:09:04.919 out in Harambe, and it's something we want to bring 151 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:08.159 out in the Elephant movie as well in Keystone because 152 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:11.399 they are Keystone species. You know, if we lose the elephants, 153 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:14.360 we'll lose our biodiversity, and we'll lose our planet, and 154 00:09:14.399 --> 00:09:17.600 we'll lose we'll lose everything that we have as well. 155 00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:21.320 So our survival is wrapped up in their survival. And 156 00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:25.039 our goal is definitely to add something into the conversation 157 00:09:25.559 --> 00:09:28.559 that is a permanent piece, and our big goal is 158 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:31.919 to get as many amazing expert voices as we can 159 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:34.039 to come in on this, because when we make movies, 160 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:36.440 we tend to bring in the experts from a different 161 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:40.559 variety of areas to talk about the problems that these 162 00:09:40.559 --> 00:09:43.679 animals are facing. So, you know, it's not so much 163 00:09:44.000 --> 00:09:47.559 about us per se in the movies, but we want 164 00:09:47.559 --> 00:09:50.519 to For example, with Keystone, we have a whistleblower that's 165 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:53.360 willing to give us some undercover video of the cruelty 166 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:56.440 that goes on in circuses and other places with elephants. 167 00:09:56.960 --> 00:09:59.799 We have non Human Rights Project, We have Left Tailor, 168 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:03.960 who is one of the top elephant sanctuary people over 169 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:07.519 in Thailand. And you know, we definitely believe that a 170 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:11.120 feature film can jump over the wall of journalism or 171 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:13.000 over the wall of silence that a lot of times 172 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:17.759 these topics face, because they will be contrary to making 173 00:10:17.799 --> 00:10:20.240 money for these companies, and a lot of zoos, as 174 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:23.000 i'm sure everybody knows, are tied in with a lot 175 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:26.559 of these cities, you know, in states, so when you're 176 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:29.279 talking to the zoo, it's not a single entity, it's 177 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:33.000 kind of the county as well. So we really really 178 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:35.600 want to do this, you know, and we need it 179 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:37.679 more than ever right now, because we're, like I said, 180 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:40.240 we're losing elephants at a terrible rate, and the cruelty 181 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:45.200 we've seen in captivity must end, and we want all 182 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:48.039 captivity to end. But we definitely

want to see at 183 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:52.440 least sentient keystone beings such as Harambei and such as 184 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:55.440 every elephant that exists, because they're all sentent or they're 185 00:10:55.440 --> 00:10:59.120 all keystone out of this captivity into sanctuaries where they 186 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:01.919 can live their lives out in a more natural fashion, 187 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:03.600 in the way that they were meant to. 188 00:11:04.679 --> 00:11:07.720 So you're looking at the indie go go link, you 189 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:10.480 can take a photograph of it, put it in. It's 190 00:11:10.519 --> 00:11:14.399 also if you're watching on Facebook or x or LinkedIn 191 00:11:14.600 --> 00:11:16.960 or YouTube, it's going to be in the comment and 192 00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:19.960 is in the comments section. And what's really cool about 193 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:22.840 this is you ever want to be a co producer 194 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:25.559 of a movie, Well you got a chance. Five thousand 195 00:11:25.600 --> 00:11:28.759 dollars you become a co producer. Ten thousand dollars. You 196 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:31.519 can be an executive producer, but you don't have to 197 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:35.480 give that much money ten dollars, just ten dollars, and 198 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:38.240 you can be a supporter and tell us for that 199 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:39.159 ten dollars. 200 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:41.159 What what do we get? 201 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:44.240 Great? Well, you know, and that's exactly the thing. 202 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:44.679 You know. 203 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:46.759 We wanted to make an easy buy in at ten 204 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:49.799 dollars all the way up to five thousand or ten thousand, 205 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:52.600 And when you come in at ten thousand, you're joining 206 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:57.159 our community, you're joining our movement, you're joining our voice. 207 00:11:57.200 --> 00:11:59.720 We need to all come together as one and become 208 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:04.559 a community focused on pushing forward. And I totally agree, Karen. 209 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:08.840 People need to know more and there's more mysteries surrounding elephants. 210 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:11.120 We were shot. How many people we talked to still 211 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:13.919 want to go ride elephants in Thailand, So we need 212 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:16.159 a lot of education. So for ten dollars, you can 213 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:19.519 come in, you can join our project. You'll get a 214 00:12:19.559 --> 00:12:23.519 digitally signed poster which definitely will be a one of 215 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:25.799 a kind, and your name will also be added to 216 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:28.759 the website as an early supporter, so you can show 217 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:32.200 everybody that you care about elephants and that you are 218 00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:33.320 part of the solution. 219 00:12:34.159 --> 00:12:36.679 I want to talk to you about why this is 220 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:39.759 important because some people say, Okay, a documentary is nice, 221 00:12:40.279 --> 00:12:43.759 but it's more important to protest and my point about 222 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:47.039 Harambe and what you did with Harambe, is that there 223 00:12:47.039 --> 00:12:50.799 were a lot of stories about this horrific killing of 224 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:54.200 this gorilla at the Cincinnati Zoo that it turns out 225 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:57.120 the gorilla was just trying to protect the little boy 226 00:12:57.679 --> 00:13:00.600 and it's not his fault. The gorilla us Paul that 227 00:13:00.679 --> 00:13:06.240 the boy fell into the enclosure. They killed the gorilla 228 00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:09.159 as opposed to using a dark gun. But that would 229 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:11.480 have come and go with the news cycle, and I 230 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:14.600 was in the news for many years. That's a one 231 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:19.639 day story unfortunately, But because you did a documentary about it, 232 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:22.840 how did that keep the story alive? And how we 233 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:27.360 did have repercussions for other gorillas and other zoos. 234 00:13:27.399 --> 00:13:29.279 What kind of message did it send? 235 00:13:30.440 --> 00:13:33.120 You know, it was we were really happy with how 236 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:36.360 Harambe was received. Uh, you know, we started to get 237 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:38.960 support from all over the country, well all over the 238 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:43.399 world really, and what we really wanted to focus on 239 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:45.440 was being able to tell the story. First of all, 240 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:47.360 you know, as you were saying, the news cycle, it 241 00:13:47.399 --> 00:13:50.039 comes and goes, but it also got everything wrong. You know, 242 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:52.919 the mother was blamed for Harambe, and we found out 243 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:56.480 it was actually the zoo's legal fault, and so you know, 244 00:13:56.519 --> 00:13:59.480 you have a nice chance to go in and correct 245 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:02.279 the story and make sure that the permanent story that's 246 00:14:02.279 --> 00:14:04.320 being told is being told by the right people and 247 00:14:04.360 --> 00:14:07.360 the right voices that will best carry it in the 248 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:10.480 interest of all the victims involved. And in Harambe, there 249 00:14:10.519 --> 00:14:12.480 were two victims. There was a poor child that fell 250 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:15.480 in and there was Harambe. And we don't want to 251 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:18.360 see this happen anymore. We see a lot of elephant 252 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:22.480 attacks over in Thailand, for example, You'll see it all 253 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:24.120 over the news all the time, and it's because

they 254 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:27.799 shouldn't be next to people. That is just that simple. 255 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:30.159 And what you know, what Harambe was able to do 256 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:34.799 was able to help push a lot of anti zoo 257 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:39.000 groups and to push a lot of people trying to 258 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:42.000 protest and say, get these gorillas out of our zoo now. 259 00:14:42.600 --> 00:14:46.080 And you know, I said, we're seeing elephants already being 260 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:49.600 moved out of zoos, whether it's Ireland now La, even 261 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:53.320 though unfortunately they're going to Tulsa. But we are seeing 262 00:14:53.360 --> 00:14:56.840 a movement where everybody says we want to see a change, 263 00:14:56.919 --> 00:14:58.879 and we can no longer do this. You know, we're 264 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:01.399 thinking as if it's eight teen ninety and we have 265 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:05.120 these sentient beings that are so important to our biodiversity 266 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:08.679 being held in a concrete cell for no reason, and 267 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:12.120 they're being bred to sell tickets. And Billy and Tina 268 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:14.720 that have been through this. Every elephant in the zoo 269 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:17.279 for the most part, has been through this, unless they've 270 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:20.519 been illegally imported in. So we feel that, you know, 271 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:23.600 making documentaries, they are important because you are able to 272 00:15:23.600 --> 00:15:26.080 bring in a lot of voices in the unified message 273 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:28.720 to really talk about the topic and cover all the 274 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:32.480 topics and go in and investigate these foundational arguments that 275 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:34.720 we always hear when you talk about the zoo. People say, oh, 276 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:37.960 they're doing conservation. Okay, well, how are they doing conservation? 277 00:15:38.159 --> 00:15:41.159 And when you drill down, they're not. And it's just 278 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:41.679 that simple. 279 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:44.639 They're not well to the point of Billy and Tina, 280 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:51.320 this was a debate that was happening literally headlines, global headlines, 281 00:15:51.799 --> 00:15:54.320 and you know what's really sad is it didn't really 282 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:57.080 matter what anybody said. It didn't matter what Share said, 283 00:15:57.120 --> 00:15:59.879 it didn't matter what Lily Tomlin said, It didn't matter 284 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:04.000 when community leaders like former councilman Paul Koretz spoke up 285 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:07.639 and said The place for these animals is a sanctuary. 286 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:08.039 Listen. 287 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:12.360 I believe a well run sanctuary with proper veterinary support 288 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:17.039 is a much better environment for an elephant. It allows 289 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:20.679 an elephant to really be an elephant. No matter how 290 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:23.720 well run a zoom might be, it's inevitably not as 291 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:27.919 natural or healthy an environment for these animals. And that 292 00:16:28.039 --> 00:16:30.879 is why I've been working to free Billy for more 293 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:32.759 than a decade. 294 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:37.200 And we just got Tiffany. Brunelli says, great project donating. 295 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:42.360 Now thy Tiffany, you want to keep these donations coming in, 296 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:47.480 super important. They cannot do it alone. Yeah, here you 297 00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:52.679 have with Billy and Tina. Council members. There was even 298 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:56.960 a battle inside the city council chambers. We're a current 299 00:16:57.080 --> 00:17:02.039 council member was literally kind of begging and pleading for 300 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:08.160 the Los Angeles Zoo to send Billientina to a sanctuary. 301 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:11.200 And it would cost the city tax payers less. And 302 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:14.200 despite all that, they sent these. 303 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:18.680 Two animals to another zoo after decades of them suffering. 304 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:21.839 It's your desire to send them to the Tulsa Zoo 305 00:17:21.880 --> 00:17:26.200 instead of the ACA accredited sanctuaries. It would seem that 306 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:30.440 sending an elephant to a sanctuary where you have three 307 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:37.720 thousand acres to rome would be better than a zoo 308 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:41.400 where you have twenty acres or less, just from the 309 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:45.519 benefit of that of that elephant. Could you explain why 310 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:46.480 that's not the case. 311 00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:55.000 While space might be one consideration of a factor that 312 00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:57.839 can contribute to an animal's well being, it's not the 313 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:02.160 only thing. It's the opportunity to be in a social environment, 314 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:05.400 in a herd environment. It's the quality of the care 315 00:18:05.839 --> 00:18:10.160 and the individual needs of the animal, and all of 316 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:13.440 that in combination. We feel they can achieve at the 317 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:14.400 Tulsa Zoo. 318 00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:16.720 And you think that what they get at the Tulsa 319 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:20.400 Zoo is substantially better than what they would get at 320 00:18:20.440 --> 00:18:23.160 the AZA accredited sanctuary. 321 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:25.599 I think what they can get at the Tulsa Zoo 322 00:18:25.640 --> 00:18:27.599 is the ability to be in an environment where they 323 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:28.319 can thrive. 324 00:18:30.279 --> 00:18:33.440

Is it better than the other environment? 325 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:36.400 It's not a matter is one better than the other. 326 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:39.559 You could say a sanctuary can provide a great environment 327 00:18:39.640 --> 00:18:42.160 for a particular animal based on its needs, the same 328 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:43.119 way that a zoo can. 329 00:18:44.519 --> 00:18:49.839 Again, despite these heated arguments within the city council, where 330 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:54.680 that city Councilman Bob Bloomenfield is basically begging the head 331 00:18:54.720 --> 00:18:57.279 of the La zoo to do the right thing. And 332 00:18:57.319 --> 00:19:00.599 you saw the gobbly book that was spewed out. She 333 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:05.039 also happens to be ahead of the entire zoo association. 334 00:19:05.960 --> 00:19:10.240 Uh so, you know, zoos want to make they want 335 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:10.920 to stay alive. 336 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:15.799 That's the point. So what was your reaction to that interaction? 337 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:19.480 I mean, I just I couldn't leave what I was 338 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:23.000 seeing there. Everything she said was absolute misinformation and the 339 00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:27.640 opposite of the truth. You know, they they need, for example, 340 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:29.640 a social structure. They also need to be able to 341 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:34.480 walk multiple kilometers a day. There are so many needs 342 00:19:34.519 --> 00:19:37.200 that are not met by elephants and zoos. And every 343 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:40.279 elephant in the zoo shakes back and forth, and you 344 00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:42.759 can see that that zooosis. You can see the stress 345 00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:46.279 on them, you know, and it's it's amazing to watch 346 00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:48.920 or do this because it's a great example of how 347 00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:54.119 the problem is bigger than this elephant, this zoo, this law. 348 00:19:54.240 --> 00:19:58.559 The problem is bigger. The problem is our minds. You know, 349 00:19:58.599 --> 00:20:00.480 you talk about somebody like Peter sing or you talk 350 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:06.359 about speciesism. These elephants are sentient beings. They that should 351 00:20:06.440 --> 00:20:08.640 be the end of the argument right there, we should 352 00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:11.440 be able to keep sentient beings in captivity. That is 353 00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:15.359 an outdated modality of thinking. And the zoos find these 354 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:18.839 animals as property. They define them as property. A lot 355 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:23.039 of zoos will claim that they cost one dollar. The 356 00:20:23.240 --> 00:20:26.240 entire collection of animals they'll put in their insurance is 357 00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:29.839 one dollar. This was reported by the New York Times. 358 00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:33.319 One dollar to keep their insurance low. So they have 359 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:37.519 no value for these animals. There's zero value and appreciation 360 00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:41.640 for their lives. They're complex, emotional lives, their social structures, 361 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:45.880 their needs in any way, shape or form. And I would, 362 00:20:46.599 --> 00:20:48.160 you know, I would love the opportunity to be able 363 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:51.519 to talk to her, because you know, there's just it's impossible. 364 00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:54.160 I mean we you know, Sierah and I have seen 365 00:20:54.640 --> 00:20:58.160 elephants in in nature and doing what they're supposed to 366 00:20:58.160 --> 00:21:02.039 be doing, and they're completely different. And again the problem 367 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:04.279 is that we think of them as property. And we 368 00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:06.079 need to change the mindset. And that's something else we 369 00:21:06.119 --> 00:21:09.559 want to do with the movie is give enough information 370 00:21:10.039 --> 00:21:13.799 that the empathy that's naturally in everybody that connects us 371 00:21:13.799 --> 00:21:19.519 to elephants as magical, crazy, mystical looking beings. That is 372 00:21:19.559 --> 00:21:22.279 what we really want to promote, and to think of 373 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:25.200 them as not just this elephant or this animal, but 374 00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:27.680 as another being. You know, like we said in Harambe, 375 00:21:27.759 --> 00:21:31.680 or Ian says in Harambe, we're human beings, they're gorilla beings. Well, 376 00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:33.680 this is the same thing. We have to understand that 377 00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:36.359 they're beings and they deserve a place on earth and 378 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:39.359 they deserve as much respect as we do. So to 379 00:21:39.400 --> 00:21:42.039 hear to hear that coming out of the Los Angeles 380 00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:44.480 director was really infuriating. 381 00:21:45.079 --> 00:21:48.400 It is and everybody's furious, and I do believe there 382 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:53.079 will be political consequences. We're going to play another clip 383 00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:56.119 from your sort of sizzle reel about why you need 384 00:21:56.119 --> 00:21:58.359 the funding to complete this movement, and then we're going 385 00:21:58.400 --> 00:22:01.880 to talk to Sierra Williams, your cop on the other side. 386 00:22:02.119 --> 00:22:05.839 So we've been traveling all over Thailand helping rescue elephants. 387 00:22:06.119 --> 00:22:10.720 We've also worked in Colombia, Mexico, Africa and several other 388 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:15.480 continents working on animal rights issues and captivity issues. While 389 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:19.079 working on our documentary Harambe, we became aware of the 390 00:22:19.160 --> 00:22:22.880 elephant captivity issue and although our principal photography in Thailand 391 00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:25.759 is complete. We do need your help. We need to

392 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:27.440 be able to get over to England and do our 393 00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:30.920 interview with Ian Redman, the Elephant Expert, to expand the 394 00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:34.039 base of knowledge, talk about keystone species and have an 395 00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:38.319 elephant expert to talk about the plight of all elephants worldwide. 396 00:22:38.960 --> 00:22:40.960 And we're also very excited to work with our good 397 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:44.240 friend Peter Egan who produced and narrated Harambe and is 398 00:22:44.279 --> 00:22:47.400 coming back to narrate this documentary with us. 399 00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:51.519 So the actor Peter is going to be involved in 400 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:52.880 this film. That's so exciting. 401 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:56.079 Sierra, thank you so much for joining us. Tell us 402 00:22:56.079 --> 00:22:58.880 why people should be involved in this film. Why is 403 00:22:58.920 --> 00:23:01.400 this going to save the lives of elephants. 404 00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:04.200 Well, first of all, thank you Jane for having us 405 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:07.759 on today. And you know, this movie is so important 406 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:11.839 because it gives people an opportunity to learn more about 407 00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:16.440 elephants and their true nature. And you know how we 408 00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:19.279 need to treat them differently, and I really do believe 409 00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:22.200 that it comes down to education. It comes down to 410 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:26.880 just changing the way we think about how we treat animals, 411 00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:32.680 and especially elephants. They really deserve the freedom, the autonomy 412 00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:35.880 to do what they want to do and just be themselves, 413 00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:40.000 and they have a role in our environment that is 414 00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:44.519 so important that is often misunderstood or not even understood 415 00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:48.119 at all. So I yeah, it's really important that we 416 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:49.880 get this information out there to everyone. 417 00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:53.240 Yeah, and you know, it's a perfect time for you 418 00:23:53.480 --> 00:23:57.200 to be doing this documentary because this is one of 419 00:23:57.240 --> 00:24:01.880 the biggest scandals in the animal rights world that I 420 00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:04.720 can remember, certainly this year, when you have people like 421 00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:08.240 Share and Lily Tomlin and a whole bunch of other 422 00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:11.799 celebrities pleading with the mayor of Los Angeles, and the 423 00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:14.640 New York Times did an article and it's all over 424 00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:17.480 the news. There were new stories last night, there are 425 00:24:17.599 --> 00:24:22.559 new stories today. People are outraged. They are outraged because, 426 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:26.079

as somebody said in one of the comments, here, La 427 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:29.119 is supposed to be the most progressive city, and how 428 00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:32.400 is this happening in Los Angeles right here? How is 429 00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:34.480 Los Angeles keeping an elephant in the zoo? It's the 430 00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:38.079 most progressive city on the planet. They're moving them from 431 00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:41.079 this zoo to another zoo when there were sanctuaries available, 432 00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:44.559 and they're having to spend approximately forty five thousand dollars 433 00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:50.640 where going to the sanctuary would have been free, and 434 00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:55.000 it's just we're lagging. Los Angeles is behind the curve 435 00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:58.799 on this. There are so many other cities in California 436 00:24:58.839 --> 00:25:01.920 that have closed their e and exhibits and sent their 437 00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:05.000 elephants not to another zoo but to sanctuary. 438 00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:08.240 So it's extremely frustrating, you know. 439 00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:13.039 I want to get back to what happens to these 440 00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:19.240 elephants in zoos as well as when they're captured for 441 00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:24.200 being elephant rides, which I urge everybody never take an 442 00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:27.960 elephant ride. Let's listen to what Cher said in a 443 00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:32.119 film by Voice for Animals about that and when Billy was. 444 00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:35.440 Just a calf. To prepare him for a lifetime in captivity, 445 00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:38.680 he was forced to endure a brutal training regime which 446 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:42.519 still affects his mental well being. Billy came to the 447 00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:46.039 La Zoo in nineteen eighty nine. He was only about 448 00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:46.799 four years old. 449 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:50.559 This is a training video made at the zoo with 450 00:25:50.640 --> 00:25:53.599 Billy as an example of how to train an elephant. 451 00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:57.400 Billy's tusks have been cut, his front legs chained, and 452 00:25:57.440 --> 00:26:02.079 the bullhook held by the trainer. Here the trainer holds 453 00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:04.799 Billy down by block and tackle U's in front and 454 00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:06.480 rear leg chains. 455 00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:12.160 It's disgusting to watch it is, it's so revolting, but 456 00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:15.240 people don't believe it. Like even when they see the video, 457 00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:17.440 they go, well, that can't be happening today. 458 00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:20.160 That can't be happening at zoo. 459 00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:25.920 You know. In my opinion, zoos are animal prisons, and 460 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:31.759 the animals are serving time having committed no crime. And 461 00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:35.799 zoos are a nineteenth century concept that need to go 462 00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:39.319 bye bye, and we need to either transfer all of 463 00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:43.119 these zoos, transition them into sanctuaries, or they need to 464 00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:43.839 be shut down. 465 00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:46.559 That's my personal opinion. If I run into. 466 00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:48.799 Somebody who's where is the zoo, I don't care whether 467 00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:50.920 it's in New York looking for the Central Park zoo 468 00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:53.119 or out here looking for the La Zoo, I say, 469 00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:55.599 I'm not going to tell you because I don't want 470 00:26:55.640 --> 00:26:59.960 to encourage you to go to a prison for animals. 471 00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:04.039 And as somebody said in your film, Harambe, it sends 472 00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:07.680 the worst message to kids that other bees are there 473 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:11.599 to be put on display for us and are not 474 00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:13.440 entitled to their own existences. 475 00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:17.559 It's oppression. And I was told a long. 476 00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:20.359 Time ago the difference between a zoo and a sanctuary is. 477 00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:23.720 Zoos are designed for people, so they have to keep 478 00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:24.839 them in a limited space. 479 00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:27.680 Otherwise, somebody would buy a ticket and they'd go. 480 00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:29.680 To see the animal, and the animal would be off 481 00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:33.559 doing whatever he or she wants to do. Sanctuaries are 482 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:37.079 designed with the animals in mind. So if you go 483 00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:40.400 to a sanctuary and the elephant is either not visible 484 00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:45.079 or somewhere else, then that's okay because the sanctuary is 485 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:51.079 designed for the elephant in mind. Additionally, sanctuaries don't breed animals, 486 00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:55.680 and zoos are breeding animals, and there is a theory 487 00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:58.200 that one of the reasons why they wanted Billy to 488 00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:00.319 go to the La Zoo, to go for the l 489 00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:03.799 A Zoo to the Tulsa Zoo is to breed him more, 490 00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:07.880 which to me is rape. They're not making love in 491 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.759 these zoos, Okay, it is rape. What is your thought 492 00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:12.400 on all of that? 493 00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:16.759 Absolutely? You know, I mean, every animal should be able 494 00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:20.480 to choose they who they meet with, and you know, 495 00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:25.079 I think it's it's cruel thing to do, and it's 496 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:28.920 you know, going back to the training, it's something that 497 00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:31.200 people don't see, you know, we don't will we see 498 00:28:31.200

--> 00:28:34.519 our baby animals at the zoo, and it entices people 499 00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:37.960 to go buy more tickets and they think that that's 500 00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:43.880 supporting a good thing, but actually it's just us marketing 501 00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:46.720 to you know, it's just the zoo's marketing to families 502 00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:49.960 to make more money. So I all around, the zoo 503 00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:53.319 is not a happy place or a good place for 504 00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:56.160 these animals. They need to get out and they need 505 00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.240 to be in a place that's their natural habitat. They 506 00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:02.359 need to be in a sanctuary, protected space, it protected 507 00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:05.400 wild space that they can and if they need care, 508 00:29:05.480 --> 00:29:08.200 they can get it. It's so important, you know. Going 509 00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:12.440 to these sanctuaries in Thailand, it was amazing to see 510 00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:15.400 massive amounts of people coming together for these elephants and 511 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:18.839 doing everything they can to help them and give them 512 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:21.000 what they need. And it was just so wonderful. I 513 00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:24.079 had never seen anything like that before versus when I 514 00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:26.519 was a little girl going to the zoo. All I 515 00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:31.160 knew was this shape of an animal that was standing 516 00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:36.440 still and rocking or swaying, and that's all I knew. So, 517 00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:41.000 you know, it's such a different I wouldn't even call 518 00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:44.559 it an education at the zoo. I would say brainwashing. 519 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:48.039 Yes, And This is some of the film that you 520 00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:52.319 have and you talk about the fact that elephants experience 521 00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:53.440 self recognition. 522 00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:56.759 Tell us about that, yes, they can recognize themselves in 523 00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:01.599 the mirrors. There have been studies the mirror test where 524 00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:04.079 they mark a little put a little mark on the 525 00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:06.200 side of their heads and put them in front of 526 00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:08.640 a mirror to see if they can recognize that it's 527 00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:11.200 actually them in the mirror. 528 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:15.480 And it's so amazing to see that, and also. 529 00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:20.000 To see their other social structures in play, to see 530 00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:22.960 the moms and the nannies taking care of the babies 531 00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:25.880 and you know, just making sure that the whole herd 532 00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:31.640 is is well taken care of. Elephants are so amazing. 533 00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:36.759 They're social, they don't forget, they they mourn they're dead, 534 00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:43.640 and they protect their herd and they're actu absolutely incredible creatures. 535 00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:48.720 Well, you are listening to the filmmakers behind Harambe and 536 00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:52.480 this is some of the footage of their new film. 537 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:56.880 Their previous film about a gorilla who was shot at 538 00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:59.680 a zoo because a child had the misfortune of falling 539 00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:01.400 in to the. 540 00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:10.720 Enclosure, has kept that story alive, I believe sixteen and 541 00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:12.720 so if you donate to this film. 542 00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:17.000 We will keep the story of Billy the Elephant, the 543 00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:21.599 horrors that Billy the Elephant has experienced. We will keep 544 00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:24.400 the horrors of what happened to Tina. 545 00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:26.519 These two elephants being. 546 00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.000 Moved from the La Zoo to the Tulsa Zoo against 547 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:32.319 the objection of so many people and protests. 548 00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:34.319 Year after year after year after year. 549 00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:38.119 There were protests every weekend at the zoo begging for 550 00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:41.319 the release of these animals. And after all of that, 551 00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:44.720 they decided. And this is pretty much breaking news. I mean, 552 00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:48.119 it was just confirmed last night that they moved them 553 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.279 in the dead of night to another zoo, a zoo that, 554 00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:55.440 according to the indefensive animals, has problems. 555 00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:59.400 So I want to get back to Eric. 556 00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:04.559 Eric, tell us why you think this elephant movie that 557 00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:06.880 you're making right now, that you're raising money for will 558 00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:08.680 be a game changer for elephants. 559 00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:12.079 Great. Well, you know, I think this will be the 560 00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:15.240 first time we've been able to, you know, really bring 561 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:19.160 the community together. You know, we talk about the protests, 562 00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:22.759 and those are really important. It's important that people become 563 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:26.880 educated travelers. If you're going to go to Asia, don't 564 00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:29.440 go ride the elephants don't touch them, you know, don't 565 00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:32.279 bathe them. There's a lot of rules that people should know, 566 00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:34.680 and we need people to become more educated. It's our 567 00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:38.960 turn to learn about the world and its inhabitants instead 568 00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:42.480 of just trying to mold them into our particular version 569

00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:44.960 of what we think of society should be. So as 570 00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:46.799 you can see those elephants there, some of them has 571 00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:50.200 stepped on land mines and they're you know, they're they're 572 00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:55.519 deformed and their legs are messed up forever. And you know, 573 00:32:55.759 --> 00:33:00.000 this is a major issue because a lot of these elephant, 574 00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:02.480 you know, every elephant that you see in captivity has 575 00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:05.599 gone through that horrible process that was in the video 576 00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:10.000 Share was showing and and every single one of them. 577 00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:14.519 It's designed to break their spirits because we have seen 578 00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:18.200 wild elephants and they are dangerous. Elephants don't want to 579 00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:20.720 know us. Here's some footage of the illegal logging that 580 00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:24.680 we went up and got in Thailand as well, so you. 581 00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:26.119 Know, what's this, what's this? 582 00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:28.559 So this is this is a show, and you can 583 00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:31.319 see the elephants here are all performing there, they're flying 584 00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:34.799 their trunks around, they play soccer, and they even go 585 00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:38.519 to as far as painting, there's elephants in. There's an 586 00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:41.079 elephant named Lucy in the Edmonton Zoo and they do 587 00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:45.119 paintings of her. They stick their trunks in paint and 588 00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.640 toxic paint. They say it's non toxic, but you know, 589 00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:49.880 we've talked to different experts and it's not good for them. 590 00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:52.039 They put it in and then they make them do 591 00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:55.200 these paintings and then they sell it. So you know 592 00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:58.839 the reason. So, okay, the reason we have elephants in 593 00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:06.480 zoos is eventually became a It eventually became a law. 594 00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:09.480 The Endangered Species Act, as we learned in Harambe, was 595 00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:12.360 signed and once that was signed, they could no longer 596 00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:16.119 import elephants in. So they created a specie survival plan 597 00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:19.159 and this is where Zoos tricked people. It's called a 598 00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:22.519 specie survival plan. But no, none of these animals will 599 00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.320 ever go to the wild. Now we've seen how they're trained. 600 00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:28.159 They would never make it in the wild. Their spirits 601 00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:32.400 are totally destroyed. They're beaten every day, they're stabbed, they 602 00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:37.639 have spears. I mean, it is really tortureus process.

And again, 603 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:40.760 every single elephant that we see has gone through this, 604 00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:45.960 So you know the SSP. This the Specie Survival Plan 605 00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:48.880 is a zoo plan where every zoo will breed a 606 00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:52.000 couple different endangered elephants. So like, for example, are dangered 607 00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:55.639 animals like the Tulsa Zoo is potentially going to breed 608 00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:58.639 the elephants, and not every zoo is going to breed elephants, 609 00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:01.960 so they'll breed out elephants, and say the Cincinnati Zoo 610 00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:06.239 or the zoo in Brownsville will breed gorillas. 611 00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:10.400 And you know what I say, it's not breeding, it's rape. 612 00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:15.079 Absolutely, they're not making love, they're not choosing their mates. 613 00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:16.760 It's a horrific process. 614 00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:19.960 And when I was told about it, it's honestly too 615 00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:24.079 disgusting to repeat. Yes, but basically they get the sperm, 616 00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:29.840 do the math. It's disgusting. And this is why many 617 00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:32.480 people feel this is why they wanted Billy. 618 00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:35.960 That you know, that wouldn't surprise me at all, And 619 00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:39.000 that is a terrible, a terrible reason because you know, again, 620 00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:41.679 these zoos are just protecting their profits. If they were 621 00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:43.519 doing what was right for the animals, there would be 622 00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:45.920 no debate. They would have gone to the sanctuary. So 623 00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:49.920 the zoo told everybody that maybe didn't know before. Yeah, 624 00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.440 we don't really care what happens to these animals. We're 625 00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:55.679 here to take our money we're getting from Tulsa. And 626 00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:57.639 I wouldn't be surprised at all if they if they 627 00:35:57.719 --> 00:35:59.159 did that, we had heard that. You know, they even 628 00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:03.880 took harambees after he was killed, his line going, and 629 00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:05.519 you know, and the other thing that we learned in 630 00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:07.519 Hara Ambi that I thought was crazy is they keep 631 00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:10.719 all of these animals in the zoos on birth control 632 00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:13.159 so they can control the cycles of when they need 633 00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:16.679 the babies to be born, because there is a baby 634 00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:19.599 what's called a zoo baby phenomenon, and the zoo babies 635 00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:22.320 are really important, so when you have a smaller animal 636 00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:25.360 it's a baby, it's really cute. Sierra and I were 637 00:36:25.400 -->

00:36:27.679 lucky enough to go rescue a seven year old elephant 638 00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:31.360 in Thailand with the group over there called Unchained Elephants, 639 00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:35.519 and it was amazing. You know, this poor thing was 640 00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:39.039 tied up and freaked out and his eyes were going everywhere. 641 00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:43.039 And the next morning he was released into this huge, 642 00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:47.760 beautiful sanctuary area and his entire demeanor change and he 643 00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:51.400 started to become himself. And I think Sierra was talking about. 644 00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:53.400 You know, they have a family structure that's so important. 645 00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:55.960 They have a mom, but within the herd, they also 646 00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:58.400 have a nanny that will help take care of them. 647 00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:01.119 So there's so much to learnlearn about these elephants and 648 00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:04.000 to learn how similar we are to them and how 649 00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:07.599 we all understand and need to coexist in the world. 650 00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:09.960 But we do owe them a lot more for all 651 00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:11.960 these years that we've done wrong by them. 652 00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:15.039 And if you're just joining us, we have some very 653 00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:16.400 sad breaking news. 654 00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:20.559 Despite protests, repeated protests. 655 00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:25.280 Please from city council members and all sorts of entreaties 656 00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:28.800 to the Mayor of Los Angeles, Karen Vass, the Los 657 00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:33.639 Angeles Zoo has moved the elephants Billientina to the Tulsa Zoo, 658 00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:38.639 even though there were accredited sanctuaries willing to take them. 659 00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:44.639 And this has sparked an uproar. As I've mentioned the 660 00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:48.159 likes of share Lily Tomlin and numerous other celebrities, something 661 00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:52.599 like eighty leaders in this city and people of note, 662 00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:56.599 and I did include myself in that letter that was sent, 663 00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:03.360 but also just citizens everywhere just outraged, and so we're 664 00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:08.320 so happy to have a solutionary approach that we're not 665 00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:12.360 just going to scream and yell about this loss, but 666 00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:17.400 we have an opportunity to fund a documentary about elephants, 667 00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:19.760 and Billy and Tina are going to be in the 668 00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:25.320 mix there so that we keep their story alive. Because 669 00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:30.000 that's exactly what happened with Harambe. Harambe was a gorilla 670 00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:33.480 that was killed. Who was killed, I should say, and 671 00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:36.079 it would have been a one day story. But because 672 00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:40.880 these same filmmakers did a film about Harambe, it has 673 00:38:41.119 --> 00:38:45.239 remained in the public consciousness and continued to be considered 674 00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:49.719 an outrage, continued to make change. So in a way, 675 00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:54.800 Harambe the gorilla is a martyr. 676 00:38:57.760 --> 00:38:59.079 Over I'm going to. 677 00:38:59.079 --> 00:38:59.559 Contact a. 678 00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:05.880 Zoo under fire for shooting and killing and endangered gorilla 679 00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:07.599 instead of tranquilizing him. 680 00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:10.840 This whole tragedy was a misunderstanding. 681 00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:14.880 And then it blew up into a meme and it's unforgettable. 682 00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:20.400 The story remains still as important today as it was 683 00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:21.920 in twenty sixteen. 684 00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:27.239 The killing of Arambek put his name in the news 685 00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:30.719 and it's iconic. The main message of how do we 686 00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:33.880 help these gorillas in the wild, that still should be 687 00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:35.480 the main focus of the name. 688 00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:40.800 Harambre Gorillas are keystone species in their habitats that if 689 00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:44.440 you remove that one species, the ecosystem will completely collapse. 690 00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:51.360 Six hundred million zoo visits a year. We are fundamentally 691 00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:54.440 miseducating people, and. 692 00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:57.320 We put these beautiful creatures who we say we want 693 00:39:57.360 --> 00:39:59.119 to look after and say in prison. 694 00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:03.519 It's so awful. And we have some good news though. 695 00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:06.639 Karen Lacava said, I've donated and will donate again. 696 00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:09.119 Everybody donate. Let's educate. 697 00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:14.039 And Sierra, you're producing a partner, has sent a link. 698 00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:17.280 We have a couple of links here. Here's what Sierra says. 699 00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:19.960 You can go to this. You can just take a 700 00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:22.960 photo of that and then you can just type it out. 701 00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:26.960 And make a donation later or do it right now. 702 00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:30.840 I mean, there's no time like the present. And once again, 703 00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:33.719 you can become anything from a. 704 00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:36.920 Just a person who gives ten dollars. 705 00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:40.400 Which is wonderful, up to Hope producer five thousand and 706 00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:42.519 if you want to be an executive producer, who wouldn't 707 00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:45.400 that's a nice thing, right, ten thousand dollars you become 708 00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:52.480 an executive producer of this

incredible movie. So so okay, well, 709 00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:56.960 let me just say this, what is going to happen 710 00:40:56.960 --> 00:40:58.199 when this movie is done? 711 00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:00.800 Who is going to see it? 712 00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:01.000 Like? 713 00:41:01.079 --> 00:41:04.400 What is your plan to make it a change maker? 714 00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:07.360 Right? Well, you know that that's a really an important 715 00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:09.960 aspect and that's one of the reasons that we want 716 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:12.559 to make sure we get these documentaries done because we 717 00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:15.360 have ways now to get them out to market where 718 00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:17.320 they couldn't be before. And one of the most important 719 00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:20.840 ways is to make sure that it's available free of charge. 720 00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:24.599 So our goal, just like Arambe, is to have it 721 00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:27.000 on to b to have it on a couple other 722 00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:32.719 free platforms unchained TV as well, because we want the 723 00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:36.599 right audience. We want the people that really, you know, 724 00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:39.000 are tuned into us, and they're the ones that are 725 00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:41.000 going to get turned on and start telling the small 726 00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:45.199 facts about every If you just tell one parent about zoochosis, 727 00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:48.079 it's going to challenge them. Are they going to take 728 00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:50.360 their kids? And if they do and they notice zukosis, 729 00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:54.480 will they go again? So everybody's support is so important 730 00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:56.599 to us. Right now, you know, we've got about eighty 731 00:41:56.599 --> 00:42:01.159 percent of the movie completed, all the overseas stuff Thailand, 732 00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:03.119 and now what we need to do is finish our 733 00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:05.159 work here in the States, and we need to be 734 00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:09.440 talking about Billy and Tina. We're doing some work regarding circuses. 735 00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:11.000 We can't talk too much about it right now, but 736 00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:13.679 it'll be in the movie. And the most important thing 737 00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:17.719 again is to provide educational information that can open the 738 00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:21.800 doors of empathy, understanding, and change. And we can do 739 00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:25.239 that together. But we need to be a community. We 740 00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:29.480 need everybody together. You know, everybody that comes in on 741 00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:32.119 our projects becomes like a family to us because we're 742 00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:35.000 all fighting for one thing, and that is for a 743 00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:38.679 better future for all inhabitants of this earth. So everybody 744 00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:43.000 that can join us would be an incredible experience. And again, 745 00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:46.559 you know, we don't really it's not about money. You know, 746 00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:49.559 we need the funding because we want to provide it 747 00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:52.760 for free afterwards. And now we don't have to also 748 00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:55.199 make any changes. We don't have to change what we're saying, 749 00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:59.599 and we don't have to play the game in distribution anymore. 750 00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:01.400 You know, we had a lot of stories stopped over 751 00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:04.559 the years due to distribution games. Now we're in a 752 00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:06.480 digital age where we can, like I said, get it 753 00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:10.360 on TV, get it on you know, Apple TV, It'll 754 00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:14.800 be everywhere and available for free, so everybody can share it, 755 00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:18.159 watch it, show it, and educate, and you know, we 756 00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:20.800 can really, I think, move the needle on this because 757 00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:23.800 it's just outrageous what happened with Billy and Tina, and 758 00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:27.199 there's such a passionate collective in Los Angeles as fighting, 759 00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:29.559 there's passionate collectives. 760 00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:31.239 Yeah, let me say this. 761 00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:36.039 You know you are my hero because you are going 762 00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:39.159 through a very serious health crisis right now, and most 763 00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:41.599 people would just be saying, I'm taking care of me, 764 00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:45.239 But can you tell us about what's happening with you 765 00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:49.320 and why you have the courage and the resilience and 766 00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:53.559 the relentlessness to continue on this, even though you know, 767 00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:57.400 for most people they'd say, well, this is as important 768 00:43:57.400 --> 00:43:58.400 as my health. 769 00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:00.719 I'm just going to relax and take care of myself. 770 00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:06.000 Thanks Shane. It means a lot to hear that. It 771 00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:09.239 is a hard road for Sierra and I. I've been 772 00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:12.480 battling cancer since two thousand and five. I was diagnosed 773 00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:15.960 with an environmental sort of hybrid cancer. I've been through 774 00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:21.159 thirteen surgeries, I've had experimental drugs, I've kind of done everything. 775 00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:25.639 I just did imminotherapy and it failed. So we're about 776 00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:30.360 to start chemo chemo rounds coming up in June and 777 00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:33.119 July August, and then we'll take it from there. So 778 00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:36.519 far nothing has worked. So we'll do four chemo rounds 779

00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:40.519 and we'll do another test and see if it works 780 00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:43.480 or not. It's a very uncertain thing. I've had a 781 00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:46.119 very We always say, you know, when you're diagnosed with cancer, 782 00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:50.679 are given a death sentence or a life sentence. I 783 00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:53.000 was lucky enough to get a life sentence, so I 784 00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:55.239 have the ability to go out there and tell these 785 00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:58.920 stories and with my time, that's what I want to do, 786 00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:02.960 is try to food everything around, you know, because the 787 00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:05.519 world is so incredible and it's so amazing, and you know, 788 00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:08.360 Sierra and I want to share that with everybody. But 789 00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:11.679 it is it is a challenging backdrop to be battling 790 00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:15.280 cancer full time during this process and. 791 00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:19.280 People are sending their best wishes to you, to me, 792 00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:24.119 that is so inspiring. I mean, think about it, people, 793 00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:28.920 This gentleman, Eric Crown is suffering from cancer. He's been 794 00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:32.320 fighting it for years and instead of just saying well 795 00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:35.159 I'm throwing my projects out the window, he and his 796 00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:39.840 partner Sierra are doubling down traveling the world to get. 797 00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:40.639 This film done. 798 00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:44.039 So the least we can do is donate to the Kickstarter, 799 00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:46.360 and I urge you again, I'm going. 800 00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:48.760 To be donating. The second I hit the stop button, 801 00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:50.920 I'm going to be jumping in. I don't know. I 802 00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:53.880 was looking. I was like, hmm ah, this looks fun. 803 00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:55.280 I don't know what I want to do, but I'm 804 00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:57.719 going to definitely do something, and it's going to be 805 00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:02.639 more than an early supporter. Everybody is saying wishing, wishing 806 00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:07.400 you a full recovery, and they want you to be 807 00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:08.079 on our team. 808 00:46:08.119 --> 00:46:11.400 Well, we are on the same team. You heard that. 809 00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:13.719 He said that this film is going to be on 810 00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:15.400 Unschained TV, which I'm. 811 00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:19.599 Thrilled to hear because we are really motivated by the 812 00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:23.679 same thing, you know, to stop the suffering of animals. 813 00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:28.119 That's why I do what I'm doing. And I can't 814 00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:31.559 go out and just have fun or relax or travel 815 00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:34.440 or do whatever when

I know that these animals are 816 00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:39.360 suffering and they can't speak for themselves. So yes, when 817 00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:43.199 you give to the animals, Unchained got Eric's back, Yes, 818 00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:46.960 you have your back, And people are saying, sorry to 819 00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:52.000 hear that praying that your efforts and your rehabilitation, your 820 00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:55.840 medical treatments work. So I just want to say, Wow, 821 00:46:56.360 --> 00:47:00.440 you are an inspiration to me along with Cierra. I 822 00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:03.000 know how hard you work. Now let me just say 823 00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:05.480 one other thing, people, it's. 824 00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:06.360 How you cut it. 825 00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:11.639 The way Harambe was edited was brilliant because it got 826 00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:15.320 regular people in the tent and it was done like 827 00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:21.280 a true crime story and full reveal. Eric and I 828 00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:27.000 both worked for the same basic overall guy who was 829 00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:32.360 one of the most famous reporters and producers in tabloid television, 830 00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:35.039 and we learned how to make things. 831 00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:37.119 Right. 832 00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:39.639 So the great thing about donating to this film, it's 833 00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:41.840 not going to be another one of those sad films 834 00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:46.440 like you know that, it's going to come out of 835 00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:49.679 the box like boom. It could be on dateline, it 836 00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:52.440 could be on sixty minutes, it could be you know. 837 00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:56.400 That's what I think your genius is is to make 838 00:47:56.440 --> 00:48:00.679 it like the opening of Harambe is so damn good. 839 00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:03.280 I'm just going to play it. 840 00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:06.440 One more time to show you how not the whole thing, 841 00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:09.480 but just the open to give you a sense. 842 00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:16.400 Of how you get people in the tent. Okay, if you. 843 00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:19.519 Just start with sad music and saying this is terrible. 844 00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:22.800 People are just gonna turn away. They want solutions. First 845 00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:25.280 of all, they want hope. They want to know that 846 00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:28.679 there's something they can do to stop whatever's happening. And 847 00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:31.679 it has to be captivating and it has to get 848 00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:35.960 them in the tent the first time around. So here 849 00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:38.480 we go, just the first twenty seconds, and you're gonna 850 00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:39.079 see what I mean. 851 00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:40.679 Everyone line. 852 00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:44.400 Over him. 853 00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:45.320 I'm going to. 854 00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:51.639 A zoo under fire for shooting and killing an endangered 855 00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:53.599 gorilla instead of tranquilizing him. 856 00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:56.480 This whole tragedy was do what I mean. 857 00:48:57.159 --> 00:48:59.559 Do you see what I mean? How that is a 858 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:02.880 Are you going to have a similar hook with your 859 00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:03.639 elephant movie? 860 00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:07.920 Yes, definitely, because you know that I think that one 861 00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:11.159 of the keys is an emotional connection to the story, 862 00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:13.079 and even though we weren't there, we really need to 863 00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:16.960 build one of those, and that gets everybody in because 864 00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:19.519 then they're willing to take the ride with us. And 865 00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:21.519 you know, I love what you said about solution because 866 00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:24.800 we are very solution based filmmakers. You know, we know 867 00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:28.719 there's a problem. We're not there to necessarily just talk 868 00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:30.039 about the problem, but we want to talk about the 869 00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:32.519 solutions and if you have a problem, it's almost like, 870 00:49:33.079 --> 00:49:35.679 if you have it, you can put it into a suitcase. 871 00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:37.159 And what we want to do is give you the 872 00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:40.239 handle to put on that suitcase, to pick that problem up, 873 00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:44.079 own it, control it, and you can make the difference. 874 00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:46.320 And that's the thing is one person can make a difference, 875 00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:48.800 and we've seen it all around the world, and you 876 00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:51.360 know that that's what we think. This project has that 877 00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:55.199 ability for everybody to lock in, make a difference and 878 00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:58.039 push forward for a better future. So we're really we're 879 00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:01.159 really excited at the prospects for the movie and you know, 880 00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:04.360 and especially even to get to meet more and more 881 00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:08.159 animal rights people, you know, and even more of our 882 00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:10.199 vegan crowd. You know as well. We're a fully vegan 883 00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:14.119 production company, so going vegan is an important way to 884 00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:17.360 also help animals, both in captivity and in the wild 885 00:50:18.400 --> 00:50:21.079 all around. So there are so many solution based things 886 00:50:21.159 --> 00:50:24.679 we can do as an educated consumer that can change 887 00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:25.119 the world. 888 00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:29.199 Thank you so much at Sierra so much for joining 889 00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:33.119 our broadcasts again, please donate, and while

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