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Howdy do, Ramona. Howdy doody.
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Yeah. It's the howdy doody hour. It is the howdy doody hour for sure.
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Welcome to the old fart spiritual hour where we talk about everything and come
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to no conclusions whatsoever.
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How's that? And maybe we'll learn something. You'll learn something.
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Who knows? Or maybe no one will learn anything.
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It's always a crapshoot, right? It's always a crapshoot. Bring your popcorn.
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If nothing else, we're entertaining sometimes.
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So, what's going on with you today, my friend?
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Well, I've been pondering surrender.
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Surrender's been one of those things that I've had people tell me for a million years.
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You know, I've been on this thing where I kept putting my wisdom,
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my need for wisdom outside of me, like going to somebody else to tell me what I needed.
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You know that plan? I do know that plan.
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And everybody that I went to told me I needed to learn to surrender.
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And I was like, no, I'm not going to surrender I mean, to me,
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surrender was an evil thing It was something that, it was like giving up It was not...
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Owning your own destiny kind of a thing. It's like rolling over and playing
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dead when they told me that.
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Exactly. I wanted to poke them in the nose. And I don't want to do that.
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Well, I definitely don't want to roll over. But then you said something to me
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about, is it the same as letting go?
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It's part of it. I think, you know, this is what I've come to as an important part of my practice.
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And what I tell my clients or people that, you know, that when we're discussing
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this, you know, for me, surrender, I never surrender to anything outside myself.
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It's an internal conversation to begin with.
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And so for me, you know how I am, like I'm so, I think I'm so tough,
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you know, all full of myself and this and that, that surrender would be the last thing I do.
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But what I've come to understand is the power
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of letting something be exactly what it is and
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surrendering to that and instead of trying to change it or instead of bargaining
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with it or fighting with it or having these internal conflicts if i'm willing
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to sit with whatever it is and let it be exactly what it is that's when it shifts.
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If I get in a conversation, say I'm pissed because, you know,
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I have like plenty of anger to go around.
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So here I am, you know, something has hooked me, the news or,
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you know, whatever I'm in judgment of that five minutes. And I'm prancing around,
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blowing smoke out my nose.
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So when I surrender in that moment, when I'm willing to let the anger be what
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it is, instead of stuff it, instead of rationalize it, instead of take it out
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on other people, if I just sit with it.
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For me, surrender is sitting with something because it's all energy.
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We know this. We've talked about energy till we're blue in the face and have
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to keep talking about energy. So everything is energy.
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So here's this anger, and this is just an example, you know, here's this anger.
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And so I fight with it. I stuff it. I do everything in the world except sit with it.
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And when I sit with it in surrender, and for me, that means allowing it to be
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exactly what it is. Not only do I get the message, but it moves.
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Energy moves when you stop fighting with it.
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Take blocks. Take a block. Any block. This is so cool. Pick a block. Any block.
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And I invite people to do this for just a few seconds because it's such a powerful technique.
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Think of something. Pick a block.
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Oh, a block that's in me? Pick a block. Is it like a Lego?
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Yeah, pick a Lego. There you go. Because most blocks are Legos internally.
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So, you know, I invite people to pick something that you've had an issue with
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that you're trying to change. It doesn't matter what it is.
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So you don't have to share it, but just pick it in your, like,
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choose something that has been helped you.
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Okay. So I'm just going to walk you through this because it's really powerful.
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So the first thing I want you to do is close your eyes. Okay.
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I'm driving. Does that matter? I'm sorry? I'm driving. Does that matter?
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Yeah, that matters. Yeah, you don't want to be driving and doing this. I'm not responsible.
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Okay, so I want you to close your eyes, and I want you,
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first of all,
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to identify where it is in your body. Because it always has a corresponding
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point in your body because the subconscious runs the body. So just play with me here.
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If your block had a physical manifestation, where would it be?
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Okay, so have you got that part? Yes. Okay, so what color is it?
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Probably red. What shape is it?
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Kind of like a blob, but it's got fingers coming out of it.
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Is it rigid? Is it like gooey?
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Just let yourself identify it as much as you can. Like egg yolks.
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Ooh, like egg yolks. Okay, is it huge? How big is it? Is it big? Is it small?
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It's not too big. It's about the size of my hand, I think, maybe about the size of my hand.
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Okay, all right, so now you've identified it, And now I want you to go in and
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sit with it and just review everything you've tried to change it.
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All the strategies you've come up with over time to get rid of it.
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Okay. Okay, now I want you to just play with me here a little bit.
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I want you to make the choice to let it be exactly as it is.
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If it never changed, let yourself be okay with that. Just practice this because it's interesting.
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It's just an interesting... Just leave that in my being.
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Pardon? I have to leave that blob in my being?
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Yep, just leave it there and accept it. Just choose to say, you know,
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okay, all right, uncle, I surrender to this.
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Can I make it a pretty blob? Don't make it anything. Just accept it the way it is.
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Choose to accept it and stop fighting with it.
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That's really weird. What happens when you do that?
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Well, it kept getting smaller and smaller and it disappeared. Imagine that.
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No, this is so profound that everything is energy.
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The number one law in energy in
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physics is energy is always in motion we are
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so powerful that the moment you
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make a judgment about anything you create a block and then you start to work
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on the block when you work on the block you bring in egoic thought and you chew
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on it and then it becomes a bigger block because now you have your thoughts
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wound up in it we do create our own reality, and this is how we do it.
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So if you're willing to surrender to,
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And, you know, this is a short exercise, of course, because I didn't want to
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take up all of our time not speaking because you know how much I like to talk.
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But I encourage listeners to try this because when you will sit with things
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the way they are, energy moves on its own.
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That's a law of physics. If you get out of the way, it will move.
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And so, you know, what happens when you think about anger, you know,
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with what's going on politically. You know, we talked about maintaining our
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center and not being swayed. This is how you do it.
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It's this dance. I mean, you can't be in denial of I'm not angry because we know that doesn't work.
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But by engaging it and chewing on it, you're indulging it and creating more of it.
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And the balance point, like everything else that's a dance, is in the middle of that.
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Completely accepting the way it is in the moment. And in that, it starts to move.
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And meanwhile, because you're in that place of acceptance, you're in alignment with your own peace.
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Surrender is one of the most powerful tools you have at your disposal to maintain
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centeredness and clarity.
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Is that like indifference? Not at all.
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Because how can you create, if you're not indifferent to something and try to
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make yourself indifferent, then that's a fight. Anything that you're fighting,
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this is what I'm speaking about, is changing the battle lines by surrender.
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I'm just sitting with that. I'm trying to—because I kind of felt it was a matter
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of, you know, take the political situation. Uh-huh.
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Because I—,
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I'm trying to dance between accepting that or surrendering that and being indifferent
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because I'm trying to feel the difference between indifference and accepting. Just the idea.
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It's the charge on it. It's the charge on it. If you're in surrender, you can still be upset.
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I mean, you know, I don't know how to put this into words. It's because it's
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energy. So I'm always trying to redefine how I speak it because it's hard to speak about.
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So say, for instance, you're angry or you're outraged about the political situation
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because that's up for a
lot of people.
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So if you're just with the pure outrage itself without getting into thought, outrage moves.
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It's an energy. It moves through you and you come back into balance.
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You still may not like what's going on, but it doesn't have the same emotional charge.
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Instead, if you say we have this outrage, we're triggered.
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We have an outrage. So we have one of two things we can do with that.
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Either we indulge it, and when we indulge it, then we engage our thoughts about it.
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And then we chew on it. And then, you know, we go through this whole process,
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which makes the outrage even stronger.
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When we do that, we have no balance and no clarity because we're being led around by an emotion.
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Instead, if you try this and surrender to it, like, yep, I'm full of outrage.
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Let me just sit with it and not make a story up about it, not say why you're
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right or why, you know, don't get in your head with it, but stay purely with
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the outrage and surrender, it moves.
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Because you're not always outraged about the situation politically. Right?
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Did you feel the hesitation there? You're right. I'm not always outraged.
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It's like I feel peace most of my life and then something happens like,
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you've got to be kidding me. This is a tool that helps.
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It's like, you know, when you're in alignment and you're at peace with yourself,
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it's not that you're not paying attention to what's going on.
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It's not that you're not feeling compassion.
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You can feel compassion without outrage. It's an interesting thing.
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In fact, I feel more compassion when I'm not outraged.
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So again, it's not that things don't come up.
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And I never, you know, I just can't subscribe to the idea that you have to like
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be a certain way all the time. I want to be at peace as much as possible because I like it there.
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So when I'm outraged, instead of chewing on it and getting more outraged and
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being right about it, it's like kind of like when you have a problem or you're
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going through something, say whatever it is, and then you talk to somebody who's
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in agreement that it's a problem.
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And then you have a bigger problem because you're both on
the bandwagon.
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That's exactly what happens when you engage your thoughts about something instead
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of letting it be the pure energy that it is.
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That's what I'm talking about, this kind of surrender.
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It's like, I'm feeling this, I'm going to sit and surrender.
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And every time I do that, not only does it teach me something, but it moves.
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I'm not spending my whole day in outrage.
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I'm spending five minutes there And that's a lot more productive for me So I
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just wanted to put that out there As a possible tool for people Of course I
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tend to go to that place of I mean,
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Yes, what you're saying And Is there anything I can do here to make this better?
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Yes, but how can you make it better if you're in outrage? Then you're part of
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the outrage. Remember, it's all energy, right? It's all the vibration.
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So the only way I can make it better is if I'm not in that state, if I'm not triggered.
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But that helps me to let the outrage go.
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What can I do about this? What can I do about this? Is there anything I can
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do about this? What if there isn't?
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Well, then I have to accept it, huh?
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Oh, we're back to that. And my point is, if you accept it first,
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then you're clear enough to make a difference.
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Because we're all one, right? So we get back to the energy.
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So, of course, we all want to make a difference.
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But if I'm out of balance emotionally with my own outrage, then I don't see
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the opportunity to help.
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And it's very small, of course. Our sphere of influence is tiny.
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And at the same time, it's profound. So if I continually surrender to whatever's
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going on within me, it brings me back to a place of peace.
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And from that, then I can project peace. I can project clarity.
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I can be there when somebody—I mean, that's why I have—I use Walmart.
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Walmart's like my great—.
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Field of experimentation for this. So when I'm at peace with myself and I walk
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into Walmart, I have these amazing
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conversations with people that are profound or helpful or whatever.
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When I'm not in balance, it's just a place to get out of.
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I don't want to talk to anybody. I don't want to. I don't. I'm not available.
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So I think the more available we are, and the only way I can do that is by taking
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care of myself and being open, blah, blah, blah.
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Then I may have made a tiny little difference in somebody else's life.
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Cool. I'll take that over kick in the can. And it gets down to that level of
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personal responsibility, at least for me.
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And so I just wanted to put that out there as something for people to play with.
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See if it works for you. You know, remember, energy is, everything is energy.
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Everything holds a vibration.
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You cannot attract the vibration of love if you're coming from the vibration of anger,
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no matter how hard you work on it because they're
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different vibrations they they they operate in a whole different frequency so
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if you want to attract love you've got to be in that space of love if you want
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to attract peace you've got to be in that place of peace it's not an external
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problem it's an internal choice.
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And as we continue to practice that and make that internal choice,
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that's when we really can show up for each other. I love it.
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That's how we all have personal responsibility in whatever's going on.
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No matter how big it looks, no matter how out of the scope of our reality it may appear.
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To render the same as acceptance?
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Yes. Okay. In the sense that we're talking about it, yes.
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Letting it be what it is. Let it be, let it be. I think there's a song.
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I think there is a song, and I think that's what it means.
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If you keep stirring stuff up with a stick, you're going to have mud.
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If you let it settle, you'll have clarity.
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But it doesn't negate the mud because, you know, you can't just say,
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I'm not angry, I'm not angry through gritted teeth and make that work because
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then you're in denial of your feelings.
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It's this dance. It's a balance between being honest about where you are And
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then taking responsibility for how you're being with it,
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Because, you know, if I'm not, you know, if I know that I'm angry, for example,
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And then I indulge it
by getting people to agree with me Or getting outraged
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every time I see the news Or whatever it is that pulls me out of my center that
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five minutes Then I'm not being responsible And responsible has this really bad rep,
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But actually, all it means is my ability to respond rather than react.
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And part of that conversation for me is practicing surrender,
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is welcoming whatever's going on in my own self.
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I welcome it so that it can be present with me and then I can release it.
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To welcome it with open arms. Yeah. Yes, because otherwise you're in a war.
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And you can't create peace from war. And all war starts within.
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All of it. So we can't fix the big war out there until we fix the war inside.
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And as we practice this and enough people practice this, we won't need that
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reflection of war anymore.
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We'll create a different reflection because it's all mass consciousness.
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And this is how we change it. We do our own work.
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Everyone, if every, just do your own work. And out of that, you'll see how to show up.
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You'll be where you need to be to be helpful or to be a change.
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You can't fight for peace any more than you can hate for love.
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It's a different vibrational frequency.
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And so I just ask all of our listeners, what are you committed to?
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It's not a judgment. It's an inquiry.
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How do you live your life? Is it a way that works for you in a way that promotes
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peace, promotes clarity, connection, beingness?
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Or are you jerking yourself around?
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Because nobody else is doing it. Nobody can jerk you around unless you give them permission.
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There you have it. And if you're giving them permission, I invite you to look
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at that and look at the dynamic just felt it just run all the way through my from my head down.
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Is that a good thing yes yeah that's
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our natural state of beingness all of us we are loving beings we are a spark
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of the divine however you see that and surrender brings us closer into not only
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feeling it, but manifesting it.
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And everything you do is important. Whatever you practice, remember,
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this is so true, whatever you practice, you will master.
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I love that. Yeah, so that's where I am today.
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And of course, I'm always like under construction.
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I want to mention to our listeners that Deb's working on our next book,
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and she and I have been talking about it.
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And I have to tell you, the preview I have gotten is phenomenal.
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This is going to be something that you all want to read, and I can hardly wait
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till it comes out. Hurry up and finish it, Deb.
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Well, I actually am going to enter a short story contest with it.
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I don't have an investment in that, but it's a deadline I have to meet. That's why I did it.
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And so for those of you who don't know what it is, I'll give you the Cliff Notes version.
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When my aunt was 94 years old, she chose a conscious death and asked me to help her.
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And so every day, and she was absolutely sharp as a tack.
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It's just her physical body. It's not helping her with drugs or something like
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that. It's helping her spiritually.
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Actually, just support her. She quit eating, and my job was to show up and take care of her.
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Okay. So I went to Reno, where she lived, and she quit eating.
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And it took her five weeks to pass because she was drinking water and stuff
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like that. And it wasn't painful, blah, blah, blah.
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But the interesting part of this is we've always done meditation in my family.
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It's just been a thing that we all do. So we decided that we would do meditation
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every day, but after the first day,
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we got this brilliant idea that I would do a guided meditation with her,
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and I'd send her to the other side of the veil, and she would report back what she saw.
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And I took notes. And it's an incredible journey.
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The parts that I've read to people, they feel hope, they feel peace, they feel ease. Yeah.
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And so that's what the book is about. It's about her journey to the other side
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and the wisdom that she brought back that is basically blowing my socks off.
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And I can't wait to share it. So as I get closer, Will, and I let you know how
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it's going to be out there, I'll let you guys know.
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Well, we are finding when Deb gets to a point where she's ready,
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we are going to read some
excerpts on our podcast also.
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Oh, yeah. I'd love to read the intro. We can do that next time I can read part
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of the intro because it's fascinating.
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I started out with a background on my family, which is by most people's standards,
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like on the bizarre end of life.
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And so I'd love to share that about just how she came to make this decision.
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And then the second part of the book is the journey itself.
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Like she comes through with the stuff about the gift of ego,
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for example, which I'd never heard.
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And how important it is that we do have an ego and how to use it in balance
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instead of try to get rid of it and all these different things that just are
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amazing and opening and hopeful.
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Gift of ego, huh? Yeah, it's an actual gift.
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That's something I've never heard before. I know. And so what's happening with
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this is I took notes, and this happened, her death happened about nine years
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ago, and I hadn't been ready to write about it.
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But as I sit there, like, you know, I want to talk about the astral plane,
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where she went, or something like that.
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So I have my notes in front of me, and then I meditate and ask for a master
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to come through. And then I get all this information about how it works and
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what happens and where you go and things that you choose.
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And it's just blowing me away. And it's changing me as I write it.
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So I can't wait to share it with anybody who would be interested in reading it.
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It's not going to be, it's not long. It's just kind of packed with all kinds of interesting stuff.
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So I'll keep you guys posted. Excited.
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Yeah, me too, actually. It's really fun. And it's changing me as I write it
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because the information is just so, wow, off the charts. It's so wow.
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Yeah, it's so wow.
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Life is so wow. Yes, it is. Our lives are so wow.
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Don't give those up. Don't give that sense of wonder up to anything because
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that's your gift. That's your channel.
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That's your connection to the truth.
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Yes. And so that's what we want to just keep talking about, you know?
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And we're happy that you guys are joining us.
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And again, please write or call us if you want to have us talk about something
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or if you want to be on our podcast, we'd love to have guests,
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although we haven't worked out how to do that yet. But if we have a guest, we'll figure it out.
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So don't hesitate. My contact information is, my email is d as in dog, d as in boy,
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stedom, s-t-e-d-d-o-m, at gmail.com.
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My phone number is 719-685-0780, and my website is simplyenlightened.life.
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My email is Ramona.Winkeller, W-I-N-K-E-L-L-E-R, at gmail.com.
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And my phone number is 970-623-4159. And we would love to hear from you.
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We would love to have you guest on our show. And yes, I know we can figure it out.
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Yeah, it's just fun, you know. And I would really like you campers to try this
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whole thing about surrender and get back to us.
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If it doesn't work, I want to know. If it does work, I want to know.
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And maybe you'll come up with a whole new variation that's better than anything I came up with.
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Please share that because the more we can share the support and the techniques,
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we've got this, you guys.
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We've got this. We just have to shift into heart-centered consciousness and
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connect with each other.
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We can change the world by changing ourselves.
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Open minds. Yeah. So I guess that's enough for today. On the old fart spiritual hour.
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I love you guys. I love you, Deb. Love everybody out there. I love you too, Ramona.
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And I love all you little people out there who think we're okay to listen to. Bye. Bye.