النص الكامل لحلقة #238-Pauline Ryeland on Tantra, Inclusivity, and Infinite Self-Improvement

--> 00:02:00,689 So it can be quite varied really. 38 00:02:01,474 --> 00:02:02,594 Okay. 39 00:02:02,834 --> 00:02:11,314 And do you help with like health related stuff or is it more like mindset or maybe childhood 40 00:02:11,314 --> 00:02:13,555 trauma, kind of all of it? 41 00:02:13,555 --> 00:02:14,675 All of it at least. 42 00:02:15,430 --> 00:02:15,909 Yeah. 43 00:02:15,909 --> 00:02:19,109 So, I'm a trauma specialist. 44 00:02:19,109 --> 00:02:23,750 So I do a process called AVENY, which is actually developed in The USA. 45 00:02:23,909 --> 00:02:26,550 Not many practitioners doing that in Australia. 46 00:02:26,629 --> 00:02:29,909 And it's pretty phenomenal because it's a really gentle system. 47 00:02:30,985 --> 00:02:34,025 But what it does is it unlocks the amygdala. 48 00:02:34,025 --> 00:02:38,665 So unlocks that flight, fight, freeze part of the brain, and it calms your nervous system 49 00:02:38,665 --> 00:02:39,705 down at the same time. 50 00:02:39,705 --> 00:02:45,000 So do look at if there's any trauma because it's like, you've got to look at the actual 51 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,080 problem and then look at all the underlying core issues, which is the mindset side of 52 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,240 things to see what's really driving it. 53 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:56,439 So if you've got unresolved trauma, guess what that comes out can bite you on, you know what, 54 00:02:56,439 --> 00:02:57,560 many, many years later. 55 00:02:57,764 --> 00:02:59,525 So I look at that aspect as well. 56 00:02:59,525 --> 00:03:05,284 And I do do mindset coaching as well, which I think is a big part of why I'm successful 57 00:03:05,284 --> 00:03:12,084 because we can teach the body new things to do and create that somatic body based learning. 58 00:03:12,084 --> 00:03:17,240 But if we don't change what's going on in here, then it's not going to be sustainable. 59 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,400 So I look at beliefs, belief systems and emotions and things like that as well. 60 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:21,960 Definitely. 61 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:28,680 And are you typically working with one person or the couple as a whole? 62 00:03:29,334 --> 00:03:34,455 Usually, so when I work with couples, sometimes they'll come on their own. 63 00:03:35,414 --> 00:03:39,254 Sometimes their partner knows they're coming and sometimes their partner doesn't know it's 64 00:03:39,254 --> 00:03:40,694 an individual choice. 65 00:03:40,854 --> 00:03:43,469 And sometimes I'll come together for the consult. 66 00:03:43,469 --> 00:03:45,069 So I'll see what's going on. 67 00:03:45,069 --> 00:03:51,069 And let's say for example, you know, they haven't had sex for however many years and her 68 00:03:51,069 --> 00:03:56,189 libido is just not there, she's not interested, then I'll work predominantly with her, but I'll 69 00:03:56,189 --> 00:03:59,594 also talk to him and go, well, what's actually going on for you? 70 00:03:59,594 --> 00:04:01,194 Like how's this affected you? 71 00:04:01,275 --> 00:04:05,115 So I might have a couple of sessions with the partner depending on what's going on. 72 00:04:05,754 --> 00:04:10,555 And that might be more about just the mindset side of things, you know, the rejection, the 73 00:04:10,555 --> 00:04:13,569 hurt, the anger, all of those sorts of emotions that are out. 74 00:04:13,569 --> 00:04:14,930 So I might just work with that. 75 00:04:15,409 --> 00:04:17,970 And then I would bring them together for a joint session. 76 00:04:17,970 --> 00:04:19,410 So I do tantrum work. 77 00:04:19,730 --> 00:04:24,975 Everything's tantric, but I'll bring them in for a lack of tantric connecting sort of, 78 00:04:25,295 --> 00:04:30,574 sessions to get them reconnected because you know, sometimes if you haven't had sex for many 79 00:04:30,574 --> 00:04:32,814 years, it's like, well, how do we get back up? 80 00:04:32,814 --> 00:04:34,335 How do we get back to doing that? 81 00:04:34,415 --> 00:04:36,814 So by creating those intimate connections. 82 00:04:37,490 --> 00:04:40,449 So, yeah, so that's how I work with couples. 83 00:04:41,650 --> 00:04:46,530 So what exactly is a tantric session? 84 00:04:46,689 --> 00:04:50,210 Well, look, all my work is tantric. 85 00:04:50,210 --> 00:04:58,335 So tantric is just a different way of, well, tantra really originated in India and it's 86 00:04:58,335 --> 00:05:00,895 really about looking at sexual energies. 87 00:05:01,535 --> 00:05:05,295 Essential energy is the flow, that's what sex is. 88 00:05:05,615 --> 00:05:13,040 So it's utilising that sexual energy and creating exercises that connect to yourself. 89 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,399 So it's a somatic based learning. 90 00:05:14,399 --> 00:05:20,000 So it's a body based learning and we do exercises and activities that get us connected 91 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:20,959 to ourselves more. 92 00:05:20,959 --> 00:05:25,044 So the more present we are and the more connected we are to ourselves, the more we can 93 00:05:25,044 --> 00:05:30,404 get out of our heads and into our bodies and we can move from doing sex to experiencing the 94 00:05:30,404 --> 00:05:31,925 sexual experience. 95 00:05:32,004 --> 00:05:37,659 So it's quite different, to the way that predominantly we focus when we're having sex. 96 00:05:37,659 --> 00:05:39,419 We've got checklists going off in our heads. 97 00:05:39,419 --> 00:05:42,939 So it's about really getting out of our heads and fully into our bodies. 98 00:05:42,939 --> 00:05:46,860 So it's just like we're in this beautiful, immersive experience and it's like, oh, okay, 99 00:05:46,860 --> 00:05:47,659 this is where we are. 100 00:05:47,659 --> 00:05:48,379 This is what we're doing. 101 00:05:49,865 --> 00:05:52,824 So that's really an easy way to describe tantra. 102 00:05:52,824 --> 00:05:56,985 And it's really about that pure connection, heart connection and being present. 103 00:05:57,785 --> 00:06:00,665 And then there's breath practices and other

things. 104 00:06:00,665 --> 00:06:04,425 So there's non sexual tantra, which is the intimate sort of connecting. 105 00:06:04,425 --> 00:06:07,439 Then we can move into this, sexual side of tantra. 106 00:06:08,399 --> 00:06:08,879 Okay. 107 00:06:08,879 --> 00:06:09,360 Awesome. 108 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,599 And you said that there's a breath work involved in that. 109 00:06:13,599 --> 00:06:16,240 Can you tell us more about that? 110 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:17,360 About, sorry, which part? 111 00:06:22,975 --> 00:06:23,855 Breath. 112 00:06:24,014 --> 00:06:24,175 Oh, 113 00:06:24,175 --> 00:06:24,814 breath work. 114 00:06:24,814 --> 00:06:25,295 Yes. 115 00:06:26,495 --> 00:06:32,980 Breath is really important to having orgasm and it actually contributes to 90% of our orgasm. 116 00:06:32,980 --> 00:06:35,540 So I always ask people, what happens when you're orgasm? 117 00:06:35,540 --> 00:06:36,660 Are you holding your breath? 118 00:06:38,259 --> 00:06:39,939 You don't try to have this orgasm. 119 00:06:39,939 --> 00:06:43,460 Whereas if you breathe, that allows the energy to actually move through your body and flow 120 00:06:43,460 --> 00:06:47,354 through your body so you can have a more expressive expressive experience. 121 00:06:47,354 --> 00:06:52,394 So breath is very key, but you know, with breath, there's so many different things that 122 00:06:52,394 --> 00:06:55,834 we can do with breath for connecting and intention. 123 00:06:55,834 --> 00:07:00,899 So if we set an intention, the energy will follow so we can sit with our partner and look 124 00:07:00,899 --> 00:07:07,540 into their eyes and do very specific breath work to connect from ourselves to our partner. 125 00:07:08,019 --> 00:07:12,660 And it just creates a more, I guess, unified connection. 126 00:07:12,660 --> 00:07:17,444 And then we can use breath to work with the sexual energy to expand it more. 127 00:07:18,564 --> 00:07:21,285 That then brings more more into the pleasure. 128 00:07:22,245 --> 00:07:27,125 I think that's really interesting and cool because I'm someone that does breath work every 129 00:07:27,125 --> 00:07:27,605 day. 130 00:07:28,004 --> 00:07:33,979 And I also do what's called 90 breath work once a week. 131 00:07:33,979 --> 00:07:38,459 I work with the Breath Box Studio. 132 00:07:38,459 --> 00:07:45,465 It's a company here in States and they take you on a breath work journey for anywhere from four 133 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:47,785 minutes to an hour and a half. 134 00:07:48,264 --> 00:07:52,824 And it's incredible how much your breath can do. 135 00:07:53,064 --> 00:07:55,785 It's just incredible, the different feelings you can get. 136 00:07:56,519 --> 00:07:58,759 You know, with what you're talking about. 137 00:07:59,079 --> 00:08:04,920 I totally believe it because I've experienced breath work do so many things for me. 138 00:08:04,919 --> 00:08:08,040 I've That's really also experienced 9D breath work. 139 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:14,585 We

have somebody here where I live that runs 9D breath work every sort of, every few months. 140 00:08:14,904 --> 00:08:18,105 I don't go to them all, but I do go to a few when I feel drawn to. 141 00:08:18,425 --> 00:08:23,625 And it's So if I'm doing a breathwork workshop, I'll always advertise it, well, you all do 142 00:08:23,625 --> 00:08:26,779 breathwork, but this is taking breath work to the next level. 143 00:08:26,779 --> 00:08:29,180 And this is breath work to enhance your sexual experiences. 144 00:08:29,500 --> 00:08:33,580 It is breath work, but it's different to that sort of breath work because it's a different 145 00:08:33,580 --> 00:08:34,139 focus. 146 00:08:34,299 --> 00:08:37,980 So, but yeah, it's very powerful and it is a big key. 147 00:08:39,154 --> 00:08:43,954 So yeah, it's really important so listeners can at least sit back and go, Oh, what happens when 148 00:08:43,954 --> 00:08:44,834 I have an orgasm? 149 00:08:44,834 --> 00:08:47,075 Am I holding my breath and clenching my whole body? 150 00:08:47,475 --> 00:08:52,355 What would it look like if I breathe through the orgasm and sort of relax the body and arch 151 00:08:52,355 --> 00:08:56,730 the back and allow that energy to flow, what would the, how would the experience be 152 00:08:56,730 --> 00:08:57,370 different? 153 00:08:58,250 --> 00:09:01,050 That's so interesting. 154 00:09:01,050 --> 00:09:01,930 See, look at it. 155 00:09:01,930 --> 00:09:03,210 I learn things every day. 156 00:09:03,210 --> 00:09:05,610 That's why I love doing this podcast. 157 00:09:05,850 --> 00:09:07,050 Yeah, that's right. 158 00:09:07,050 --> 00:09:12,705 And that what I love about doing the podcast is I always get asked read different questions on 159 00:09:12,705 --> 00:09:14,384 the same track, but different questions. 160 00:09:14,384 --> 00:09:17,264 So each one's always uniquely different, which I really enjoy. 161 00:09:18,225 --> 00:09:18,625 Yep. 162 00:09:18,625 --> 00:09:18,945 Yeah. 163 00:09:18,945 --> 00:09:22,544 I mean, I'm just really curious about what you do and how you help people. 164 00:09:22,544 --> 00:09:24,384 So it's just really cool. 165 00:09:24,465 --> 00:09:30,779 And so do you work with just straight couples or gay couples also? 166 00:09:30,779 --> 00:09:31,179 Yeah. 167 00:09:31,179 --> 00:09:35,820 I work with gay couples, probably, you know, not as many, but I do definitely work with gay 168 00:09:35,820 --> 00:09:36,220 couples. 169 00:09:36,220 --> 00:09:41,585 I think I've got two gay women I'm working with at the moment. 170 00:09:42,465 --> 00:09:45,665 So yeah, there's no prejudice here. 171 00:09:45,665 --> 00:09:47,504 This is like a no judgment zone. 172 00:09:47,504 --> 00:09:55,170 You know, I hear a lot and there's not very often that I'm like, holy crap in my head where 173 00:09:55,170 --> 00:09:58,290 they're telling me something, but you know, it has happened on the odd occasion. 174 00:09:59,009 --> 00:10:00,769 Because I can imagine. 175 00:10:00,769 --> 00:10:01,170 Yeah. 176 00:10:01,170 --> 00:10:05,889 So it's like, it's just accepting people where they're at. 177 00:10:06,684 --> 00:10:12,684 And really my whole goal is if you've got a problem and this is bothering you in some way, 178 00:10:12,684 --> 00:10:14,684 it's not adding, it's not adding to your life. 179 00:10:14,684 --> 00:10:16,284 It's it's it's creating friction. 180 00:10:16,284 --> 00:10:17,884 Then I want to be able to resolve that. 181 00:10:19,019 --> 00:10:25,019 And then the process, want everyone, you know, I'm passionate about everyone being living 182 00:10:25,019 --> 00:10:27,740 their most pleasurable experience that they possibly can. 183 00:10:28,139 --> 00:10:31,740 And if you're in a relationship that it's a really beautiful one, that's, you know, 184 00:10:31,740 --> 00:10:40,304 conscious, connected, present, timed, and at the same time, you to be the best version of 185 00:10:40,304 --> 00:10:44,305 yourself, which comes from the sort of NLP side, the mindset side. 186 00:10:45,184 --> 00:10:45,504 Yeah. 187 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:47,200 Yeah. 188 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:52,480 And that's what this whole podcast is about self improvement. 189 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:59,680 And, know, we talk a lot about business and entrepreneurship and all of that, but 190 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,519 everything starts with yourself. 191 00:11:01,975 --> 00:11:12,615 Have to heal yourself, have to help yourself working, everything working all together before 192 00:11:12,615 --> 00:11:13,735 you can help somebody else. 193 00:11:14,250 --> 00:11:17,129 And that goes into every aspect of life. 194 00:11:17,450 --> 00:11:24,490 Your mindset, your money, business, your sexual life, everything. 195 00:11:24,490 --> 00:11:29,065 It all has to be running smoothly so you operate at 196 00:11:29,065 --> 00:11:30,745 your highest level. 197 00:11:30,904 --> 00:11:31,705 That's right. 198 00:11:31,705 --> 00:11:33,384 And that's where I come from. 199 00:11:33,465 --> 00:11:39,625 And that really sort of comes from my many, many decades of doing personal development and 200 00:11:39,625 --> 00:11:44,429 personal growth for myself and doing my own inner journey and wanting to be the best 201 00:11:44,429 --> 00:11:45,789 version that I can be for me. 202 00:11:45,789 --> 00:11:48,669 And so that's what I sort of look at with my clients. 203 00:11:48,669 --> 00:11:51,389 What are those beliefs that are sitting there that aren't serving you? 204 00:11:51,389 --> 00:11:52,589 Let's get rid of them. 205 00:11:53,789 --> 00:11:56,029 And it can be sexually related or not. 206 00:11:56,029 --> 00:11:59,085 It doesn't matter because they're all things that are going to get that person more 207 00:11:59,085 --> 00:12:02,764 empowered in who they are, which is really the end result. 208 00:12:03,804 --> 00:12:04,524 Yep. 209 00:12:04,524 --> 00:12:10,125 So I like to have everyone tell their story on this podcast.

210 00:12:10,669 --> 00:12:14,350 Why what was it that kinda got you into this, field? 211 00:12:15,470 --> 00:12:17,230 That's my number one question. 212 00:12:17,629 --> 00:12:20,909 I only wake up one day and I go, oh, I think I'll be a sex therapist, because I actually 213 00:12:20,909 --> 00:12:22,429 didn't know what that was. 214 00:12:22,774 --> 00:12:29,975 Look, there was a series of things that also I get a bit, a bit Well, I call myself a smart 215 00:12:29,975 --> 00:12:32,615 response or cheeky responses. 216 00:12:32,615 --> 00:12:34,695 I always go, you know, well, read my book. 217 00:12:34,695 --> 00:12:35,335 It's all in there. 218 00:12:35,980 --> 00:12:43,500 But the short version of it is there've been little snippets of things happening and I was 219 00:12:43,500 --> 00:12:49,995 like, you know, I've done some secret sexuality work and in between the two workshops, got this 220 00:12:50,154 --> 00:12:54,554 download that I was a sexual healer and I'm like, I don't know what that is. 221 00:12:54,794 --> 00:12:56,875 We'll just park that over there somewhere. 222 00:12:57,754 --> 00:13:02,220 And then, so there's lots of little snippets like that popping through, but it was when I 223 00:13:02,220 --> 00:13:05,580 did my NLP training, which is neuro linguistic programming. 224 00:13:06,299 --> 00:13:11,019 And I was with a girlfriend looking at working out what my niche would be. 225 00:13:11,019 --> 00:13:16,075 And I knew I didn't want to be a business coach And we're going through this process and every 226 00:13:16,075 --> 00:13:22,634 time I literally opened my mouth, she slammed her fist in her head and barked at me boring. 227 00:13:22,875 --> 00:13:25,195 And it was got really quite intense. 228 00:13:25,195 --> 00:13:30,100 Like she was just like people just hammering me and energetically, I felt like my back was 229 00:13:30,100 --> 00:13:33,380 against the wall, and the next thing that comes out of my mouth was sex. 230 00:13:33,620 --> 00:13:34,820 It just blurted out. 231 00:13:34,820 --> 00:13:35,779 And she goes, that's it. 232 00:13:35,779 --> 00:13:38,019 You know more about sex than anybody I know. 233 00:13:38,019 --> 00:13:41,355 And I'm like, oh, I don't know about that. 234 00:13:41,355 --> 00:13:45,595 I'm not sure if that brought up a whole lot of stuff for me and I sat with that, perturbated 235 00:13:45,595 --> 00:13:46,555 with that for a few weeks. 236 00:13:46,555 --> 00:13:51,754 And then we went off to another training with these guys from The States actually, Kay Minkus 237 00:13:51,754 --> 00:13:55,435 and and or Jeff Slater was an Australian, but they were they were based in The States. 238 00:13:55,620 --> 00:13:57,940 Came in because it's been in The States originally. 239 00:13:58,500 --> 00:14:02,019 And at that time they were doing fortune 500 coaching. 240 00:14:02,019 --> 00:14:04,100 So they were like big, big coaches. 241 00:14:04,820 --> 00:14:10,085 And I was holding held court in the bathroom with a bunch of women talking about sex, the 242 00:14:10,085 --> 00:14:14,325 next minute the guys are calling me, the sex lady, and I'm like, what's going on with my 243 00:14:14,325 --> 00:14:14,725 girlfriend? 244 00:14:14,725 --> 00:14:15,365 Did you tell them? 245 00:14:15,365 --> 00:14:16,325 And she went, that nothing. 246 00:14:16,325 --> 00:14:17,365 I went, you know what? 247 00:14:17,605 --> 00:14:20,644 I just threw my hands up in the air and went, okay, I'll give it a go. 248 00:14:20,884 --> 00:14:24,339 I will apply the principles of being an NLP coach. 249 00:14:24,339 --> 00:14:28,019 So with NLP, it's like, this is the person's problem. 250 00:14:29,059 --> 00:14:30,899 This is what they'd like to achieve. 251 00:14:31,539 --> 00:14:35,220 Come back to the problem, dig down below the surface to get to all the underlying core 252 00:14:35,220 --> 00:14:39,225 issues that are driving it and then create a plan to get them from a to b. 253 00:14:39,945 --> 00:14:43,945 So usually a person comes in and they know where they're at, they know what they want. 254 00:14:44,024 --> 00:14:46,985 There's occasions where they're not sure what they want to do. 255 00:14:47,144 --> 00:14:49,865 So we sort of like where they want to be, but that's pretty rare. 256 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,120 And I just create a plan of what we need to do to get there. 257 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,360 So it could be involved trauma work. 258 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,679 It would definitely involve coaching and the coaching's always a blend of the NLP mindset 259 00:14:59,679 --> 00:15:01,839 work, tantra and sexological body work. 260 00:15:01,839 --> 00:15:03,039 They all sort of wrap in together. 261 00:15:04,034 --> 00:15:06,754 So that's pretty well how it came about. 262 00:15:07,715 --> 00:15:11,634 And it must've worked because I was still doing it fifteen years later. 263 00:15:12,595 --> 00:15:16,274 Well, it's a cool story and it reminds me of my own story. 264 00:15:17,629 --> 00:15:21,470 First, I became a life coach and a business coach. 265 00:15:21,870 --> 00:15:27,789 And then now I basically help businesses with social media and podcasting. 266 00:15:27,789 --> 00:15:28,110 Yeah. 267 00:15:28,110 --> 00:15:33,595 So it's like, I never thought I'd be doing social media for the businesses because I 268 00:15:33,595 --> 00:15:35,355 didn't like doing it for myself. 269 00:15:35,355 --> 00:15:35,754 Yeah. 270 00:15:35,754 --> 00:15:40,154 But now that I'm doing it for others, I actually enjoy it a lot more. 271 00:15:40,154 --> 00:15:40,634 Yeah. 272 00:15:40,634 --> 00:15:40,794 That's fine. 273 00:15:40,794 --> 00:15:41,595 I get that. 274 00:15:41,674 --> 00:15:42,235 Yeah. 275 00:15:42,235 --> 00:15:42,955 Yeah. 276 00:15:43,595 --> 00:15:45,754 I've got two more questions. 277 00:15:45,754 --> 00:15:49,879 First, how can people reach out and work with you? 278 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,360 I'd like to just go to my website and send an inquiry form through, and then we just have to 279 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,960 play logistics with timing. 280 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:01,625 I've got a guy that I'm chatting with in The US at the moment in Kentucky. 281 00:16:01,625 --> 00:16:02,985 So spoke with him. 282 00:16:02,985 --> 00:16:08,745 It took me a few days to work it out and we just have a chat on WhatsApp initially and then 283 00:16:08,825 --> 00:16:09,785 see what's going on. 284 00:16:09,785 --> 00:16:12,105 And if they want to proceed, then we'll have a consult. 285 00:16:12,679 --> 00:16:18,360 Consults an hour and we would do that on zoom and we sort of really unpack what's going on. 286 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:23,959 So I like put my Sherlock Holmes hat on and dig down and ask hundreds of questions to sort of 287 00:16:23,959 --> 00:16:29,665 see what all the background noise is that's contributing to the problem. 288 00:16:29,665 --> 00:16:30,785 Then I'll create a plan. 289 00:16:30,785 --> 00:16:34,625 I'll go, okay, this is how many sessions I think you need and just the various price 290 00:16:34,625 --> 00:16:35,184 points. 291 00:16:35,184 --> 00:16:37,424 And then it's up to them if they want to proceed. 292 00:16:37,424 --> 00:16:41,184 So there's a form on my website, which is my name, aurlenereiland. 293 00:16:42,330 --> 00:16:42,970 Okay. 294 00:16:42,970 --> 00:16:43,529 Awesome. 295 00:16:43,529 --> 00:16:45,850 One last question. 296 00:16:46,169 --> 00:16:51,769 So my slogan is your abilities are infinite. 297 00:16:51,929 --> 00:16:53,210 What does that mean to you? 298 00:16:54,254 --> 00:16:54,975 Wow. 299 00:16:54,975 --> 00:16:55,774 Huge. 300 00:16:55,774 --> 00:16:56,254 Yes. 301 00:16:56,254 --> 00:16:57,375 I love that. 302 00:16:57,615 --> 00:17:02,334 It ties in with one of the sayings that I often say is what else is possible. 303 00:17:03,534 --> 00:17:09,640 So infinite, it just means is it's to me, it's about being aware of what's there and taking 304 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:14,839 the opportunities and not linking and missing them and following your intuition because so 305 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:16,519 many people ignore their intuition. 306 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:20,119 And that's something I teach people as well, you know, especially in relationships, you 307 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:24,039 know, like recognising signs that aren't right for you. 308 00:17:24,565 --> 00:17:30,965 So tuning into your own body's awareness and own body's not knowing to see if the situation 309 00:17:30,965 --> 00:17:33,765 is right for you or moving forward's right for you. 310 00:17:33,765 --> 00:17:40,079 So that's the way I look at it is it becomes a choice in how you live your life. 311 00:17:41,519 --> 00:17:42,559 I love that. 312 00:17:42,559 --> 00:17:43,599 That's amazing. 313 00:17:44,399 --> 00:17:47,679 All right, Pauline, thank you so much for being on the show. 314 00:17:47,599 --> 00:17:48,480 Was really great.