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Gabby Sibaja: Welcome to the Energy Effect. I'm Lauren Monroe and today we'll be talking to the one and only Bruce Lipton. We'll be talking about science and spirituality. And how vibes create everything, and how our thoughts are not us. How our thoughts have a frequency and a vibration that affects everything around us because our thoughts are energy, just like everything in this world is energy. Today's episode is very empowering. Spoken from a master teacher, a cellular biologist, who has brought so much information to us through all of his books, Spontaneous Evolution, The Honeymoon Effect, Biology of Belief, and now his upcoming book. Beyond Darwin. We'll talk about vibrations too, which I think is very important and how music really affects us, bad vibes and good vibes, and what we're creating in our world. I hope you enjoyed this episode with one of my favorite people in the universe, Bruce Lipton. In this state where we are in humanity right now, what do you think is required of us as human beings to be able to move through these challenges and to create a a new world, a new paradigm? so that we can feel whole again. Well the idea is we really haven't felt whole in a long time, in the sense that we separate ourselves into nations, communities, separate from each other without recognizing we're all in this together, number one. That we must return to understanding that we live in in a garden or had lived in a garden until we've decimated in this garden that we have to return and and bring back harmony to this environment in which we live. If going back to the indigenous way of life, for example, Native Americans said this was a garden and that we are gardeners in this garden. Well, we're destroying the garden, so that has to stop. Another most important thing is for us to recognize that all of us are spiritual entities. And this is from a level of not just religion kind of level, this is from science. Quantum physics recognizes that we are an energy field playing through a body. That we are the field, not the body. The significance then says well we've separate people male, female, this religion, that religion, this way, that way. Separate, separate. And that's all based on the on the body. When the reality is we're all an energy source playing through a body. And the definition of in physics of the field is invisible moving forces that influence the physical world. And the definition of spirit, invisible moving forces that influence the physical world. And this is what quantum physics is actually recognizing the existence of us as being spirits. I like to give the analogy. The body is like a television set and the spirit is a broadcast. And I said, what's important? Well, you're watching a T V and it breaks and we say the TV's dead and I go, Yep, TV doesn't work anymore. But the most important question is, what about the broadcast? I go, Broadcast is always here. It never exchanges. And that if a new so-called TV shows up with the same broadcast receiving system, each of us receives our own personal download. If a embryo shows up with your download in the future, you're back put in a new TV. Yeah. Does it make a difference, male or female? No. What race? No. Religion? No. We're the spirit. And that would then allow everybody to recognize we all came from the same place. We all part of the same energy and the unity must return to this planet and that's what we're missing at this moment. You mentioned the frequency of the fields and we have our own independent frequencies. How can we start leading people to the idea of frequency? Physics has revealed something up. We have not understood, and that is simply this. We have the illusion that the universe is split into a physical and an energetic realm. And we look at the physical realm as separate. Crockham physics, nineteen twenty seven recognized that the physical realm is an illusion. I mean, what do you mean? Well, it's made out of atoms. Yeah, those are the physical things. And it says, no, that's what they found out was the atom is actually made out of energy. Well, if the atom is made out of energy, then everything that's physical is energy. So the first thing is this. There are no two realms, matter and energy. One realm, energy. Energy is perceived in terms of vibration, different vibrations. sound waves, energy waves. What we have to recognize is this, is that everything is energy. And when we had the idea of matter is separate from energy, the idea of consciousness, which is an energy, was perceived not to influence matter. Okay? Spirit, which is energy, was perceived not to influence matter. But now that matter is energy, All of a sudden it shows that these energy vibrations are what shape matter. In fact, that was a quote from Einstein. The energy, which is referred to as the field, the field is the sole governing agency of matter. But all of a sudden what we've left out of the picture now becomes the most important part of the picture. And that is energy vibration is everything. And you speak about vibration often and how we all have this very intuitive sense of vibration, but we don't know how extensive it is in our in our life because we all feel vibes. you you talk about that quite often about feeling vibes and I'd love for you to share more about that. Well, the vibes, whether they appear as physical or they're the invisible Are all interconnected. And it's the invisible ones that have more power over what we are than are the physical versions of this energy. And as a result, we've ignored things, especially our our consciousness, how our thoughts and our perceptions and our beliefs they're not physical, they're energy from the mind. And yet that energy from the mind is what shapes us in here, but it also shapes how we deal with the world out here. And so it says we have to change our whole attitude. And we have to start recognizing the power of thought and how thought is actually manifesting our experiences and how
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our beliefs representing those thoughts shape us. And then How do we get those beliefs? And where do we get those beliefs from? Because that then represents how our life is going to unfold. And unfortunately, we buy our beliefs from other people or agencies. And then in a sense then then we're not running our lives, we're being controlled by the downloaded beliefs that we acquired in our life experiences. So all of a sudden it says something very important to her. He says, What do you think? I go, What do you mean what do you think? I said, Because whatever you're thinking is what you're going to manifest. And when people start to let go of their own personal belief and buy into the story, then they become pawns in somebody else's story. the idea that we are programmed, it's not new. It's four hundred years old. the Jesuits will have their followers listen to give me a child until it is seven and I will show you the man. Well, after all those four hundred years now we recognize something. The first seven years of a child's life they're in a state of hypnosis, a vibration called brain theta, theta. I guess so why is that important? Well whatever you see and observe in your first seven years, that's where you get your download. And then ninety five percent of your life comes from the download. So it was recognized whoever can program you for the first seven years owns the character of your life. And therefore we've taken programming from organizations that know they can control us. And with that programming we have lost our personal power. We now are just playing programs that didn't even come from us. and therefore we look at our lives and we wonder why it's not working to our wishes and our desires. And I said, Because we're not creating our lives from wishes and desires. We're creating our lives from subconscious programs, habits. And these habits shape the character of our lives. And so most of us are walking around on autopilot. with the with this program running the show, even though we think we're making all these conscious decisions, is that what was programmed in our subconscious when we were small is really creating our reality right now. So back to to frequency, how do we recognize when we're coming into a pattern that is not something that we're is a conscious pattern? How do we get back to being more awake and aware So we can choose differently. And from what I know, if you make a choice over and over and over again, you start to create a habit that can take you out of the subconscious program. How do we get to that place? Well, the first thing you have to identify what your programs are. I go, Well, where's the problem with that? I say, Well, you were being programmed three months before you were born, you were already being programmed. And then for seven years. So I you know, I the most important thing is the first programs in are the most powerful. I said, well, okay. What program did you get before you were born? I don't know. Okay, well, wait, what program did you get when you were zero? Well, I don't know. programs you get at one. programs you got at two. Point. Most of us have no conscious awareness of any of the programs. I said, well how would I know what my programs are? 95% of your life comes from the program. So all you have to do is look at your life. And here's a simple understanding. The things that you like that come into your life, the only reason they're coming in is because your programs support that. But the things you work hard at, struggle over, put effort into, I'm gonna make it happen. I'm sweating over it, I'm working on it. Why are working so hard to get to those destinations, whether it's health, relationships, job, whatever, why are you working so hard? The answer, well, those destinations are not supported by the program. So all of a sudden you can look at it and say, My program and relationships aren't working. My program for my health isn't working. Why? Because I'm struggling. Because when the programs are They're they're supporting there's no struggle. It just happens. Hey, it's Lauren. I hope you're enjoying the show. Remember to stay tuned right to the very end so you can experience my new song Skywalker, recorded live at the Golden Bath Theater. This song is about emotional alchemy, moving lower density feelings into higher frequency emotions. So I hope you enjoy it. And now back to the energy effect. What do you think about how meditation and becoming more aware in a state of the now, how that can help us be more aware when that program starts kicking in so that we can interrupt it and and reroute and a new narrative of what Yeah. Well this is the whole idea, but it's frequently it's very hard to interrupt the program because you're the one that's not even seeing the program plan. Yeah. I find it very interesting is that Relationships. Unfortunately, you have to understand something. when a relationship is starting between two people, it's often referred to as the honeymoon. I go, why? Because it turns out science recognizes that when we are beginning a relationship, we s we stop thinking. We stay in the present moment. Well, if you're not thinking, you're not playing the program. I said, then what? Conscious mind, wishes and desires is wanting to show for that period of time. So you and your partner are now living no program, wishes and desires and manifesting the beauty and harmony of heaven on earth. I go, that's great. But then inevitably, life cuts in. And you have a job and responsibilities and things you have to do when you start thinking. I say, then what? The moment you start thinking. Programs you've never played in a relationship because you didn't play these programs start showing up. The vast majority of those programs are negative. Your partner who's never even seen you do the negative behavior, and all of a sudden you start expressing negative behavior. And your partner looks at you and goes, Who are you? Where does that
come from? Now the problem is this. The one who is just now playing the program, remember. Has no idea that plays a program. So they go, What are you talking about? And then the arguments begin. And as the arguments begin, more programs show up and more programs show up until there's a point where the relationship that was started based on wishes and desires now is a relationship based on programs. 50% of the marriages break down because of this. Is it a resolution? Yeah. Both partners know about the programming, then rather than getting into arguments, one partner when hearing a program of the other partner, you say, Did you really hear what you just said? Did you did you understand it? Let me here's what you said. And most of you are I I didn't mean that, because they recognize that didn't come from them, but it did. And all of a sudden, if you do that, it opens up the opportunity. Just change a program. But if you start with an argument and the arguments get more and more heated, nobody's fixing the program, but you're all destroying the relationship. So I was fortunate enough, for example, in my relationship with Margaret. We both knew about this. So if I came up with a negative program, she'd catch me. I'd stop and go, no, that's not what I meant to say. It's not what I want to say. And this gave me an opportunity to identify the program and then take the opportunity to change the program. I think awareness is what you're saying is really such a big part of changing how we live and and how we grow. And one of the things that we're gonna be talking about a little bit later is conscious music and how music can help bring us into a state of awareness, which is why we we've created this podcast and we've created this experience to to look at music as a vehicle that also has science behind it and has spirituality to bring people to a state of consciousness that you feel because you mentioned what Einstein said and I said I love that quote so much. but it what it refers to is how spirit and energy affects matter and music is this in villa is an invisible force too. And when we put intention and consciousness with the music, it becomes a vehicle to affect matter. It becomes a vehicle to affect thought and and our hearts and I'm I it's interesting because what you're saying is if I'm listening to music I'm not listening to a program. Yeah. But I'm not thinking, I'm taking in. So when you stop thinking, it's the first time that the conscious mind has the power in a sense over the subconscious mind. So The music, the vibration, can keep you in the present moment, being mindful, staying present. And when you're in that moment, all of a sudden the clarity of life comes in. Yeah. And with that clarity, there are options and choices and things that you don't have if you're in the program. And so music can get you right out of them. What I find when I'm creating music and what I when I'm experiencing music that brings me peace and it doesn't have to be soft music, it could be rhythmic music. I'm in a balanced state. I'm in a state of coherence where my mind and my heart are in this one state. I love to have you explore and tell us about brain heart coherence and how that affects us. What we have to understand first of all is go back to the realization, although we are perceived as matter, we're actually energy vibrations, all the atoms, okay? And we also broadcast vibration. From where? I said, well, your heart is beating an electromagnetic field that sends out a vibration that can be read meters away. You can read somebody's heart vibration so powerful. But we also now know that the brain sends out vibrations. We used to read brain function by putting wires on a person's head called electroenceptigraph, and you're reading the vibration of the brain as it's operating. E.E. G it's called, okay? And there are different levels of vibration. This led people to believe that your brain's vibrations, which are representing your thoughts and your consciousness, are inside your head. And that's why we put wires to read it. There's a new device, not electroencephalograph, called magnetoencephalograph. I said, So what's important? I say, Well the probe reading your brain vibration doesn't touch your brain. The probe is out here. And it's reading my vibration from in here, which means, my god, my thoughts are not contained in my head. My thoughts are broadcast in the field. So I'm generating a field. And since the field shapes matter, Then you have to recognize your own thoughts are shaping your life experiences. So energy vibrations are coming out like waves. But music, for example, is a vibration which also is in waves. And so if I'm sending out waves, but music is coming in with its own waves, the waves can interfere with each other and tangle with each other. There are two extremes of interference. If the waves are in harmony and they come together, they empower each other to create create a greater energy. It's called in our life experience good vibes. When you're in harmony with something, you feel more energy, more vibration, because the waves are a constructive interference. Good vibes. But if the waves are not in sync, one wave is going up, the other wave is going down, and they're not in sync, they can interfere, but it's called destructive interference, where they cancel the energy. Bad bobs. Yeah. So all of a sudden it says then the environments that you're in can either enhance your vibration or cancel your vibration. Well, energy is life. Yeah. And if you Cancel the energy, you're losing your life. But if you enhance your energy, you are gaining more life. Well, this is the wonderful power of music, because music is a vibration that we are receiving. And if that vibration becomes in harmony with you, it empowers you at that moment. It empowers your consciousness. And that gives us the power of creation. When you're in a good vibe, that means you're creating with your energy. When you're in a bad vibe you're closing down and shutting off your life. So music can enhance us. Some music can actually cancel. I feel that you feel that when when the music starts to cancel you. I I definitely feel I think a lot of people feel that and not know why they want to shut that song off or like, you know, change the channel. Yeah, I think that's a real valid thing that we all feel. Yeah, and and so i it's like how can I increase the character or quality of my life and it's just how can I enhance my vibration? And constructive interference is the process of that going on where an external vibration is in harmony with you and raises your vibration. And that gives you more life and more power. And I feel that when I'm around you, Brut. I'm just telling you, you increase my vibration with just being around you. and all that you've done to to help support humanity and and understanding up to science and spirituality. it's been a pleasure to have you. It's a cold skin. No my heart's okay. Listen to the angels and listen to the rain. Che You said Nice. Save the dog dying things holding me. Time go, when the time goes, how the time goes, as I chase. To say same the same of hope and freedom. Você Time comes, father take me on. Such change through the center Yeah. Com me reason.