النص الكامل لحلقة Brand’s Grift Collapses

he did an event, Abby, with RFK Jr., uh JD Vance, and it was like three months ago. 00:02:43.370 --> 00:02:44.730 I'm not even kidding. 00:02:45.689 --> 00:02:47.050 I mean, it's unbelievable. 00:02:47.129 --> 00:02:52.490 He was just he opened for like Tucker Carlson's whole tour, like doing the big, you know, sermon, I guess. 00:02:52.650 --> 00:02:59.210 I guess he's like a pastor now, so you know he's doing he's doing the whole opening religious prayer and all that for Tucker. 00:02:59.450 --> 00:03:01.129 It's it's shameless. 00:03:01.370 --> 00:03:04.810 The audacity is, you know, but but these grifters, that's all they have. 00:03:04.890 --> 00:03:13.129 I mean, they they double down, triple down, and like you said, they know that they will be welcomed into the the movement of pedophiles and rapists and sexual offenders. 00:03:13.210 --> 00:03:14.330 And and indeed he was. 00:03:14.569 --> 00:03:19.210 D did you see the uh Piers Morgan interview where I just actually just re-reposted it? 00:03:19.689 --> 00:03:22.009 Can I go back to asking you a question about your Bible? 00:03:22.250 --> 00:03:23.289 Yes, if you want to. 00:03:23.450 --> 00:03:23.770 Thank you. 00:03:23.849 --> 00:03:25.370 That was that the one you took into court? 00:03:25.530 --> 00:03:26.409 Yeah, the very one. 00:03:26.569 --> 00:03:26.890 Okay. 00:03:27.210 --> 00:03:29.450 What was your thinking of taking it into court? 00:03:29.530 --> 00:03:33.530 And what you were seeing looking at some passages, what were the relevant passages for you? 00:03:33.689 --> 00:03:35.450 Alright, thank you for asking me. 00:03:35.689 --> 00:03:36.090 Thank you. 00:03:36.250 --> 00:03:37.610 I didn't hurt, did I? 00:03:38.729 --> 00:03:39.610 A little bit. 00:03:42.650 --> 00:03:44.969 Um, it was this from Osion. 00:03:46.009 --> 00:03:48.490 You're right, where did say, you know, be chill. 00:03:52.490 --> 00:03:53.129 It's great. 00:04:06.490 --> 00:04:11.050 They don't like that, do they, in the old gallery, but rather just said it's a higher spot. 00:04:12.409 --> 00:04:14.009 This is from Isaiah. 00:04:56.409 --> 00:05:04.330 The word that the verse that I was looking at that day was not this. 00:05:04.490 --> 00:05:09.049 I can't actually I can't actually find the verse that I that I had that day. 00:05:09.370 --> 00:05:10.810 But this is good enough. 00:05:11.210 --> 00:05:29.129 I was just I literally I It was just a brutality of letting him uh Piers Morgan, letting him sit there and look for this verse that he couldn't think about and he carries his Bible to him. 00:05:29.370 --> 00:05:34.409 He's looking at it in court like it's the most precious thing in his life. 00:05:34.570 --> 00:05:47.289 And to people who do believe it is the most precious thing, but you would think he would at least have some inkling of what he was reading that day from the prophet Isaiah. 00:05:47.529 --> 00:05:49.289 And it was just crazy. 00:05:49.610 --> 00:05:51.850 That moment seemed like it took forever. 00:05:52.090 --> 00:05:58.889 And Peter sort of let him sit there when he couldn't figure out what Bible verse he was reading or etc. 00:05:59.850 --> 00:06:04.810 Which led me to believe it was just a gimmick, he was carrying it as a prop. 00:06:05.929 --> 00:06:18.250 You know, I'm in trouble now, so I'm gonna hook myself in religious language in the hopes that people will think that I've changed when if there's a true change. 00:06:18.970 --> 00:06:34.570 Especially when you deal with people when they're new believers, they are really fired up and they could give you Bible verses somewhat like the uh they know it like they know the back of their hand. 00:06:34.970 --> 00:06:38.090 That that's what happens in new conversions. 00:06:38.970 --> 00:06:43.450 I I go on your Twitter feed like every like every other day because it just it it keeps me alive. 00:06:43.690 --> 00:06:47.210 And I was just wa I was watching that clip and Mike was like, Aren't you supposed to be like preparing for an interview? 00:06:47.289 --> 00:06:51.210 I was like, no, no, I just have to like watch this clip again where it's just like oh hold on. 00:06:51.450 --> 00:06:57.450 I I mean why why bring that around like a prop if you can't even cite one passage? 00:06:57.529 --> 00:07:00.570 It's like it's it's not rocket science, dude. 00:07:00.889 --> 00:07:07.129 Watching a snake oil salesman get caught that aggressively was like the most rewarding thing I've ever seen in my life. 00:07:07.210 --> 00:07:13.129 That with him like going through the pages and you hear the noises of the pages turning, and it's like it feels like it goes on for an hour. 00:07:13.210 --> 00:07:13.850 Oh my god. 00:07:14.570 --> 00:07:15.929 Just dead air. 00:07:16.090 --> 00:07:16.250 Yeah. 00:07:16.490 --> 00:07:17.610 Dead air for like a minute. 00:07:17.850 --> 00:07:18.649 I actually feel bad. 00:07:18.730 --> 00:07:24.330 Me and Crystal, before he went psycho and went right wing, we actually had him on the show. 00:07:24.570 --> 00:07:30.570 And this was after an interview he did with Candace Owens that we saw, where he like actually aggressively debated Candace Owens, and I thought he did a good job. 00:07:30.649 --> 00:07:42.730 So we had him on the show, and now you know we look back at that and we're like, oh, I want to take a shower, knowing that I interviewed that guy, and it was like relatively positive, knowing that the entire time he was like, he's like a textbook predator. 00:07:42.810 --> 00:07:47.769 They have uh to the documentary you pointed out, they have text messages where he's basically like, sorry, I raped you, mate. 00:07:47.850 --> 00:07:48.570 Like into literally. 00:07:48.970 --> 00:07:50.570 Sorry, that was very selfish of me. 00:07:50.649 --> 00:07:51.769 Oh, I'm so sorry. 00:07:51.929 --> 00:07:52.810 No means no. 00:07:53.769 --> 00:07:54.409 Oh my god. 00:07:54.570 --> 00:08:03.129 I mean, I just saw a clip of him saying, Yeah, you pretend like

you're gay, get disarm the women, and then boom, they're pregnant once you like trick them. 00:08:03.210 --> 00:08:05.210 I was like, Did they play this in the trial? 00:08:05.610 --> 00:08:07.850 Oh, did you it the Jimmy Savile clip out? 00:08:07.929 --> 00:08:10.649 I don't know if you've seen that one where he's on radio with Jimmy Savile. 00:08:10.810 --> 00:08:14.570 Now, Jimmy Savile, for people who don't know, is like a notorious pedophile. 00:08:14.730 --> 00:08:19.610 He had like a BBC show forever, and the entire time was like raping little kids left and right. 00:08:19.690 --> 00:08:25.450 And you see Russell Brandon him having banter, and Russell's like, I'll serve you up my assistant on a platter, Jimmy, if you'd like that. 00:08:25.529 --> 00:08:28.490 And he's like, Chip chip, cheerio, very good, I'm a rapist, you know. 00:08:28.649 --> 00:08:29.850 Oh my god, bro. 00:08:30.169 --> 00:08:42.090 Well, I always think like if this, if I did this, you know, if I just like gallivanted around and like just got undressed, like in the BBC break room, and just like put my vagina in the face of like some like young male intern. 00:08:42.169 --> 00:08:46.889 It's just like it's just insanely unfathomable, like the shit that this man was doing. 00:08:47.049 --> 00:08:53.529 And just taken seriously, get like like ex excelled, you know, uh ascended in the ranks of these institutions. 00:08:53.610 --> 00:08:55.289 I mean, at Channel 4, at BBC. 00:08:55.370 --> 00:08:57.370 It's just it it's really mind-blowing. 00:08:57.610 --> 00:08:59.129 Yeah, power fucks people up, man. 00:08:59.210 --> 00:09:01.129 Like it's kind of crazy. 00:09:01.370 --> 00:09:11.529 If somebody gets power, their like true self comes out, and some people just immediately take advantage of everything around them, and they act like they're entitled to everything. 00:09:11.769 --> 00:09:13.769 And it just, I don't know, it's gross. 00:09:13.850 --> 00:09:14.649 These people are gross. 00:09:14.730 --> 00:09:16.730 I want to take a shower, even talking about them. 00:09:17.049 --> 00:09:17.289 I know. 00:09:17.450 --> 00:09:19.210 I mean, and that's the problem with the whole system today. 00:09:19.290 --> 00:09:23.450 It's like people like libertarians and stuff will be like, they're just bad apples, we need to get the right people in. 00:09:23.850 --> 00:09:24.410 It's crowny. 00:09:24.570 --> 00:09:24.730 Yeah. 00:09:24.810 --> 00:09:30.649 It's like, no, no, this is the system rewards this kind of psychopathy, this this lack of empathy. 00:09:30.810 --> 00:09:35.210 This is what the characteristics that that are rewarded in capitalism. 00:09:35.370 --> 00:09:37.290 So it's like, of course, we have Trump as president. 00:09:37.450 --> 00:09:40.570 Of course, Russell Brand was this famous celebrity that was untouched. 00:09:40.649 --> 00:09:45.129 Like, these are the people who are the powerful people who are protected in a system like this. 00:09:45.210 --> 00:09:47.210 It's absolutely sick and depraved. 00:09:47.530 --> 00:09:50.970 So I just watched your documentary last night. 00:09:51.129 --> 00:09:57.050 And uh, man, it is a powerful, it's a very powerful documentary. 00:09:57.129 --> 00:10:02.490 So before we get into the midterms as well, just tell everybody a little bit about your documentary, because it's it's it's big. 00:10:02.889 --> 00:10:03.930 Yeah, it's a big one. 00:10:04.090 --> 00:10:05.530 I mean, it's uh it's a big one. 00:10:05.769 --> 00:10:10.490 Uh look, six years ago when we started off on it it's basically our Odyssey. 00:10:10.649 --> 00:10:19.850 You know, it's it's it was a six-year journey across the planet trying to quantify the scope and scale of military pollution, US-led military pollution. 00:10:19.930 --> 00:10:22.570 And it's basically what we realize is that it's unquantifiable. 00:10:22.730 --> 00:10:24.649 Every stone unturned is another documentary. 00:10:24.730 --> 00:10:26.410 It just became so massive. 00:10:26.649 --> 00:10:33.290 We went into it trying to just expose the fact that military emissions are not counted in these annual climate conferences. 00:10:33.450 --> 00:10:36.330 The COP is going on right now in Turkey, COP31. 00:10:36.490 --> 00:10:49.290 And it was just so shocking that these global leaders convene every year, pat themselves on the back about their environmental stewardship and curbing climate emissions with these, you know, carbon trade schemes and all this stuff, and they're not actually counting emissions. 00:10:49.370 --> 00:10:51.530 They don't count the military and they never have. 00:10:51.769 --> 00:10:55.930 And so the US paved the way for this exemption, and it's been, you know, rooted ever since. 00:10:56.170 --> 00:11:02.250 Paris was the voluntary mandate that you can voluntarily submit your military exempt uh uh emissions. 00:11:02.410 --> 00:11:10.009 So we started off just wanting to expose that, and then it just became so big, Kyle, in typical Empire Files form. 00:11:10.090 --> 00:11:13.850 We wanted it to be this holistic systemic totality, right? 00:11:13.930 --> 00:11:19.290 So, so so basically confronting these massive exit central crises that no one really wants to talk about. 00:11:19.450 --> 00:11:27.370 Even though it should be on the nightly news that the fact that the military is poisoning our water supply in every single base at home and abroad. 00:11:27.930 --> 00:11:31.850 So, uh, in the documentary, I wrote down a quote that I thought was powerful. 00:11:32.009 --> 00:11:37.050 You said, the US military is a protection unit for resource extraction. 00:11:37.290 --> 00:11:41.129 And that I was like, damn, that's a devastating description. 00:11:41.210 --> 00:11:43.690 And you go on to explain how like explain this for people. 00:11:43.769 --> 00:11:51.610 It's like the first iteration at like at the beginning of the US military, one of the things they did this for was like the fur trade. 00:11:51.930 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00:11:57.450 Yeah, so so yeah, basically Manifest Destiny has always been synonymous with the conquest of nature. 00:11:57.610 --> 00:11:58.970 That's actually another name for it. 00:11:59.050 --> 00:12:05.370 The first military general, General General Bradford, said that nature had to be destroyed for God. 00:12:05.610 --> 00:12:17.450 Um, you know, indigenous people were always seen as basically the wild Cretans, synonymous with just the complete just wild landscape that needed to be killed, slaughtered, and extracted. 00:12:17.690 --> 00:12:24.410 The first extraterritorial military bases, of course, paved by genocide, were to protect the fur trade. 00:12:24.570 --> 00:12:34.250 They basically just like killed a slew of beavers and stuff just to sell beaver skin hats and stuff like that for Europeans and almost like drove them to extinction. 00:12:34.410 --> 00:12:36.410 Like that that's insane. 00:12:36.570 --> 00:12:41.050 And then the first overseas bases were to protect coal, which then transitioned to oil. 00:12:41.210 --> 00:12:52.810 So it's always been this self-fulfilling prophecy to justify and necessitate the expanse of the military, and then to maintain that expanse, you need to continue to um extract more fossil fuels. 00:12:53.050 --> 00:13:00.170 So this has always been rooted in the philosophy of the US military, and it's always been the mandate essentially to secure these resources around the world. 00:13:00.490 --> 00:13:03.850 It's like the uh the where the term banana republic comes from. 00:13:04.009 --> 00:13:07.050 Like, how many people do you think know where that term comes from? 00:13:07.290 --> 00:13:07.370 Right. 00:13:07.530 --> 00:13:11.530 Where it's like the US military was literally trying to steal bananas. 00:13:11.769 --> 00:13:17.850 I forget which country it was from, but South American countries steal the bananas, and that's where we got the term banana republic. 00:13:18.490 --> 00:13:21.530 Yeah, dole, like the literally like the banana company, dole. 00:13:21.690 --> 00:13:23.050 It's like that's right. 00:13:23.450 --> 00:13:25.850 I feel like we're back uh it during that era. 00:13:26.009 --> 00:13:31.050 Like, even worse, I feel like we're like back during the days of Christopher Columbus, except now just overlap with high technology. 00:13:31.370 --> 00:13:32.730 So I actually watching it. 00:13:32.970 --> 00:13:47.050 I I wanted to ask you about that because in your documentary, you talk about like the congenital birth defects from the chemical weapons that we used in Iraq, which people don't I I mean, I cover this stuff all the time, and even I forgot about all of the birth defects in Iraq because we used uh illegal chemical weapons. 00:13:47.210 --> 00:13:51.050 You talk about Camp Lejeune in the US, where there was poisoned water, and the U.S. 00:13:51.129 --> 00:13:53.690 government effectively like murdered a bunch of babies. 00:13:53.850 --> 00:14:00.170 They hid the fact that this water was poisoned, people drank it, so there were like babies being born that live for a day, two days, and then they would die. 00:14:00.330 --> 00:14:03.370 People have all sorts of health issues as a direct result of that. 00:14:03.530 --> 00:14:13.050 So my question is: do you think Americans are sort of like waking up to the evil death machine that is our military under Trump? 00:14:13.210 --> 00:14:28.730 Since Trump sort of rips the mask off of empire and almost lays it out bare, like brags about imperialism, brags about colonialism, you know, they commit war crimes that are just so uh egregious that you have like my mom is talking to me about, you know, the bombing of the Menob school in Iran and she's not even all that political. 00:14:28.889 --> 00:14:36.250 And do you think though that Trump has like woken up the average American to like, oh, this is like really evil and we should not do this? 00:14:36.570 --> 00:14:36.970 Yeah. 00:14:37.290 --> 00:14:38.090 No, absolutely. 00:14:38.250 --> 00:14:40.410 I think we're in this historic moment that I've never seen. 00:14:40.490 --> 00:14:50.490 I'm 42, and you know, this is this is incredibly momentous, the fact that Trump has explicitly laid bare the demands and mandates of U.S. 00:14:50.490 --> 00:14:54.410 Empire and the dictates, and it's all for fossil fuel extraction. 00:14:54.490 --> 00:14:57.930 It's all to maintain and pr and preserve imperial hegemony. 00:14:58.009 --> 00:15:00.090 It's literally articulated by him. 00:15:00.490 --> 00:15:07.450 I mean, he had all the oil barons in the White House alongside Tucker Carlson, of course, after they seize Venezuela's oil, they're all applauding. 00:15:07.610 --> 00:15:10.649 When he first got into office, he said, I'm the arms salesman in chief. 00:15:10.730 --> 00:15:12.970 He's just surrounded by the defense contractor CEOs. 00:15:13.050 --> 00:15:18.649 I mean, it and literally just nakedly pillaging and plundering the earth, Venezuela, Iran. 00:15:18.810 --> 00:15:19.850 It's so explicit. 00:15:19.930 --> 00:15:25.050 There's no hiding behind the pretense of some benevolent empire spreading human rights and democracy. 00:15:25.210 --> 00:15:30.570 This rehabilitated notion of the US and the CIA and stuff, it's completely demolished. 00:15:30.649 --> 00:15:32.730 They've fucking demolished it. 00:15:32.889 --> 00:15:37.450 Any shred of credibility that they've had now under Trump's second term. 00:15:37.610 --> 00:15:42.330 But I wanted to, you know, I wanted to point to the fact that the documentary, this is the incubation period, right? 00:15:42.410 --> 00:15:47.210 This is the neoliberal doctrine that led to Trump's second term. 00:15:47.450 --> 00:15:51.050 And like you said, the military, it's very important to look at the military. 00:15:51.210 --> 00:16:52.879 We we've rightfully pointed to oil corporations, big agriculture, all these things as the perpetrators of the climate collapse, but there's one enforcement mechanism that

dominates the planet and enforces those those power structures to dominate, right? 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:54.240 And that is the US military. 00:16:54.320 --> 00:17:04.480 They go around the planet and they're the ones with violence, enforced by violence, to allow and pave the way for oil corporations to run roughshot over the earth. 00:17:04.800 --> 00:17:16.960 So you and I both came of age politically during the the Bush regime, and that really helped sort of like inform our politics in a way that I think kind of almost our entire generation feels like that. 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:22.560 How would you compare what's happening now with the Bush regime? 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:26.720 Because there was a time when in the past I used to say Trump's horrible, but George W. 00:17:26.800 --> 00:17:27.519 Bush was worse. 00:17:27.680 --> 00:17:28.720 Now I think that's flipped. 00:17:28.800 --> 00:17:30.000 Now I think if anything, George W. 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:32.080 Bush is, or excuse me, Trump is George W. 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:34.000 Bush on steroids and human growth hormone. 00:17:34.080 --> 00:17:36.160 How would you compare the two eras? 00:17:37.120 --> 00:17:38.800 Yeah, no, I I agree, man. 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:42.320 I mean, I I used to hate when people are like, oh, like I miss Bush. 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:48.640 And I'm like, no, Bush is a fucking psychopathic, like war criminal who led, you know, led us into this disaster. 00:17:48.880 --> 00:18:06.399 Trump is different because he he it's not only what Bush was, but it's taking the corruption to stratospheric levels where it is so naked and explicit, alongside the fact that he's, you know, he's a been accused of rape by how many fucking like 30 women. 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:13.200 It's like a serial rapist, uh uh the most corrupt Mo effort in the fucking planet. 00:18:13.359 --> 00:18:15.200 The Elon Musk stuff, big tech. 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:26.639 I mean, basically being the chaos president where anyone with any sort of extremist agenda can attach it onto him, including the evangelical right with Mike Pence the first term, and now of course big tech the second term. 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:28.720 So there's been so much damage. 00:18:28.879 --> 00:18:34.480 And then you couple on top of that the taking all the environmental protections being rolled back. 00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:38.719 Like it is just a free-for-all that I never thought that I would see. 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:44.159 And of course, going for Iran, going for Cuba, going for Venezuela, Bush didn't even try to do that. 00:18:44.399 --> 00:18:46.399 And and not to give any credit to Bush. 00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:52.559 It's just how much worse it's gotten and how much more normalized it's become where they feel like they can do anything. 00:18:52.719 --> 00:18:54.879 And in fact, they have been able to get away with it. 00:18:54.959 --> 00:18:56.799 So why wouldn't they feel like they can do more? 00:18:57.199 --> 00:18:59.039 Yeah, I mean, that's such an important point, right? 00:18:59.119 --> 00:19:13.199 Is that probably the biggest mistake of Obama was not going after any Bush-era war criminals, not going after any of the Wall Street criminals who led to the Great Recession, subprime organs crisis in the Great Recession. 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:23.839 And now this is this is the end result of that, is like Trump gets in there, and now he feels like war crimes, torture, illegal wars, it's literally just a matter of opinion. 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:28.399 Like, if I do it, you can disagree with it, but I'm still gonna do it, and there's gonna be no consequences. 00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:36.719 And I and I think that you really see this fervor now among the public of like, we can't let this stand. 00:19:36.879 --> 00:19:43.279 And maybe it's because of all the other like domestic laws that Trump is violating and how he's violating the Constitution and things of that nature. 00:19:43.759 --> 00:19:46.719 But do you agree with me that something feels different this time? 00:19:46.879 --> 00:19:54.959 That if Trump if Trump lives and pardons everybody, then uh we don't even have a country anymore if they get away with this crime screen. 00:19:55.119 --> 00:20:00.799 But if he like dies in office, which I think is actually maybe likely, then he can't pardon all the people. 00:20:01.119 --> 00:20:03.279 And then I think a lot of people are going to jail, don't you think? 00:20:03.439 --> 00:20:07.599 Like there actually is a chance that like Elon Musk's dumbass might be in prison when all said and done? 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:08.559 I mean, I don't know. 00:20:08.639 --> 00:20:16.399 This is what my mom, my mom, the first term, she was just like, he's going any day now, like the paperwork's coming and he's going to prison, and then all of a sudden he gets re-elected. 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:18.000 It's like after the insurrection. 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:19.839 It's like, how how is this happening? 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:27.439 So I don't have faith in the prosecutorial like advances of the fucking Democratic Party, lawyer up, all the shit. 00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:28.959 We've seen it before, like the first term. 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:30.799 So I I'm scared, Kyle. 00:20:30.879 --> 00:20:31.439 I really am. 00:20:31.599 --> 00:20:32.639 But it does go back. 00:20:32.719 --> 00:20:36.319 Yes, I do think it's different now in terms of the public sentiment. 00:20:36.559 --> 00:20:42.559 Look, and I and I think it's displayed obviously with the fact that Trump didn't even have to like manufacture consent for the Iran war. 00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:46.000 They didn't have to manufacture consent because they don't care anymore. 00:20:46.159 --> 00:20:49.919 That's how detached the ruling class is from the electorate. 00:20:50.079 --> 00:20:53.359 They know that they don't even have to give us crumbs. 00:20:53.679 --> 00:21:07.759 Um, so so that kind of faltering of like the

propaganda matrix, that that fissure of like a consensus reality, people are just watching something that's like black is white on social media while they dictate to us something that's completely inverted, that's really different. 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:11.119 You saw during the Bush administration all of the scandals that were the worst crimes. 00:21:11.199 --> 00:21:16.480 I mean, Abu Ghraib, um the Nasser Square massacre, all those things we found out about much later. 00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:23.039 And there were uh, you know, like kind of show, not trials, but it was like a show saving face, right? 00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:30.000 There was sheep let out to for whatever the fuck the phrase is, like like people laid out to drive for those things. 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:32.399 The Judith Miller mea culpa. 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:34.240 Like there's been none of those things now. 00:21:34.319 --> 00:21:42.639 It's just the rapidity and scale and scope of war crimes are so rapid fire that it's hard to even absorb what's happening and react accordingly. 00:21:42.719 --> 00:21:47.839 And I think people, even though it's paralyzing to a certain extent, people really get it. 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:56.319 Like they get that it's not just gonna be they're not just gonna be placated with a another democratic leadership that is led by Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries. 00:21:56.399 --> 00:22:00.639 Like, we're not gonna be hoodwinked by hope and change again, just like we were with Obama. 00:22:00.719 --> 00:22:05.519 And like you said, Obama came to office with a supermajority, he didn't do a goddamn thing. 00:22:06.159 --> 00:22:08.399 He just thought that symbolically it was enough, right? 00:22:08.559 --> 00:22:08.799 Right. 00:22:08.959 --> 00:22:10.000 And then and then what does he do? 00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:17.759 He goes to expand the Afghanistan war, look forward, not backward, don't prosecute any war criminals, and in fact, destroy Libya under NATO. 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:28.319 And and and I think foreign policy has always been a driving factor, even though we tend to get gaslit by the ruling class and the media establishment about how foreign policy doesn't play a role in any of this stuff. 00:22:28.399 --> 00:22:30.879 I think it really, really does, and it always has. 00:22:30.959 --> 00:22:36.719 And that's why Trump won the first time, and that's why Biden lost, or I mean Kamala lost this last time, as we know. 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:40.399 Because the foreign policy ties in directly with the economy. 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:43.119 They're not separate things, they're definitely connected. 00:22:43.199 --> 00:22:50.559 And you see this with the illegal war against Iran, the Strait of Hormuz being closed, gas prices go up, which means grocery prices go up, which means prices for everything go goes up. 00:22:50.719 --> 00:22:52.240 So, like, it matters a lot. 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:59.359 I saw Bench Pierre and Mark Levin coping and saying, like, well, this definitely has nothing to do with the Iran war, because only four percent of the country said it's the main factor in their voting. 00:22:59.439 --> 00:23:01.039 And it's like, are you insane? 00:23:01.199 --> 00:23:03.599 This is like the core of what's going on here. 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:12.079 But I wanted to ask you, um, you mentioned how like they didn't even bother to make the case on Iran, and that is so true. 00:23:12.399 --> 00:23:35.439 And I feel like there's gonna be like this is the hell that they're paying for that because it was so arrogant to just be like, Yeah, we're gonna do it, and we're not even gonna bother to do I mean for Iraq, they worked for two straight years lying relentlessly and saying Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9-11, you know, he was working with Osama bin Laden, and he's gonna maybe attack us. 00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:39.279 And you had people were genuinely like kind of scared on that front. 00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:41.599 We were being lied to the whole time, but they made the case. 00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:54.000 Trump didn't do it, and now you look at it, and like the numbers are like 26% of the country supports the war, which is 26% too high, of course, but like it's 26 like the Iraq war was like 80% supported when it started. 00:23:54.079 --> 00:23:58.159 We've never seen arrogance of this level, and now it's finally backfiring on them. 00:23:58.639 --> 00:24:12.559 Yeah, I mean, kidnapping a head of state, throwing them in prison with no, you know, chumped up charges, stealing their natural resources, asphyxiating our island neighbor who's done nothing but basically deploy international brigades of doctors like to help people. 00:24:12.639 --> 00:24:16.559 I mean, it's just it is so ludicrous and so belligerent. 00:24:16.879 --> 00:24:19.119 I I I can only hope that Americans see through it. 00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:20.399 And in fact, we know that they did. 00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:24.799 I don't know what the fuck Ben Shapiro's talking about, but we know that the Iran war was a deciding factor. 00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:35.359 In exit polling, I mean, I know that people don't really have the capacity with the way that our oligarchy is set up, that they don't have like a nuanced ballot box where they can say, this is why I'm voting blue. 00:24:35.439 --> 00:24:54.240 But like we know that there was a complete revulsion against the Iraq war, or I'm sorry, against the Iran war, against the Gaza genocide continuing, and against just this, this, like you said, just the arrogance of this ruling class to just say we could do the Epstein class, just to say we could do whatever we want with no consequences at all. 00:24:54.399 --> 00:24:57.519 And these tariffs affected everyone and everything. 00:24:57.759 --> 00:25:03.919 The smallest business owners, like train sets and joints at a weed store that I went to. 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:06.399 It's like it's like everything was affected by these tariffs. 00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:08.879 And so I I think that that also played a major role. 00:25:08.959 --> 00:25:13.839 And those are directly connected to the war on China and obviously Iran as well. 00:25:14.159 --> 00:25:14.639 Yeah. 00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:19.519 Uh here's here's a question for you, because I've gone back and forth on this, but I think I've settled somewhere now. 00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:24.000 Um it's the old, is Trump uniquely bad question? 00:25:24.159 --> 00:25:28.559 And I used to say, no, basically all the Republicans are the same and they're demons. 00:25:28.719 --> 00:25:47.839 But now I've actually come to the conclusion that in some ways he actually is uniquely bad for the simple reason that when you look at other people in this global far right movement, when they lose, they kinda are just gonna be they're like, All right, like Victor Orban, for example, he lost in Hungary and I was convinced he was gonna try some stop the steal bullshit.