النص الكامل لحلقة Getting Nostalgic About Nostalgia

00:05:02.600 based on that book alone, always think about my banana 71 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:05.120 seat bike. I only had one banana seat bike when 72 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:10.120 I was growing up, you know, before that, I think 73 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:14.560 it was just kind of a rinky dink, bigger bike. No, 74 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:17.439 maybe I didn't have a bike. Maybe the banana seat 75 00:05:17.480 --> 00:05:20.199 bike was my first bike. And then after my banana 76 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:24.120 seat bike, after we changed them to be AMX bikes, 77 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:28.680 I think a ten speed or five speed or whatever 78 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:30.759 my mom could afford was my next bike. So I 79 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:33.240 only had one banana seat bike, and I remember it, 80 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:42.360 I mean, and it was mid to late probably seventy eight, 81 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:48.759 probably seventy eight, maybe seventy five, seventy six to seventy eight, 82 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:52.240 right in there. But so I remember my mom getting 83 00:05:52.279 --> 00:05:57.560 me my banana seat bike for Christmas, and it came 84 00:05:57.639 --> 00:06:04.920 from Otasco Home Attire and Supply Company, and I at 85 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:08.560 the time, and as I grew older, I didn't I 86 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:11.000 couldn't remember the name of the bike or the brand, 87 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:15.240 or the description or anything. I just knew in my brain. 88 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:17.879 I knew exactly what it looked like, and what it 89 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:24.360 looked like was a multicolored bike where it'd be like 90 00:06:24.519 --> 00:06:30.759 they sprayed red and then somebody sprayed that into orange, 91 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:32.920 and then sprayed that into yellow, and then sprayed that 92 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:36.680 into green, and so it was like almost a rainbow 93 00:06:37.199 --> 00:06:41.279 of spray all over the bike, all over the metal 94 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:44.680 body of it. And then the seat, the banana seat 95 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:49.519 was a vinyl banana seat, as most of them were, 96 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:56.240 but the design on the seat was denim, so if 97 00:06:56.319 --> 00:06:58.319 you were standing away from the bike and looked at it, 98 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:02.079 it almost looked like it had a denim seat on it, 99 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:06.680 when it was actually just denim pattern printed on vinyl. 100 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:10.600 And so I remembered that for all these year decades, 101 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:14.839 I've remembered that for decades, and I've looked, you know, 102 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:19.639 I've found stuff from the seventies. I've dug up stuff 103 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:23.519 from the seventies. And I would search high and low. 104 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:27.600 I would look in stores, antique shops, I would search 105 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:33.160 for the description of the bike online. And for decades 106 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:37.680 I could not find anything out about my banana seat 107 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:40.079 bike other than what was up here in my memory. 108 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:43.079 And then one day, and I think it's probably been 109 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:47.240 two years now, I don't know the exact date, but 110 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:50.560 I was sitting right here in Shaggy Deck Studio and 111 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:55.839 I was just scrolling Facebook like I do, and I 112 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:59.319 just I saw a banana seat bike whiz by really quick, 113 00:07:59.839 --> 00:08:07.920 and I stopped because and I must, I promise you, 114 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:11.560 I only got a snippet of it. You know, I didn't, 115 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:14.399 you know, stay on it very long. I just caught 116 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:17.040 a snippet of it. But in my mind, I thought, wow, 117 00:08:17.800 --> 00:08:20.560 that kind of looked like what I thought my banana 118 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:22.759 seat bike looked like. So I scrolled back up and 119 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:28.000 it is a banana seat bike on Facebook marketplace. Well, 120 00:08:29.319 --> 00:08:32.039 you know, a lot of times you'll see cool things 121 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:36.039 on Facebook Marketplace, but they'll be you know, in a 122 00:08:36.159 --> 00:08:39.159 town one hundred miles away or seventy five miles away 123 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:42.919 or whatever. But I looked at it and I thought, 124 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:49.559 that looks exactly like my Bananasa bike. After all these years, 125 00:08:49.639 --> 00:08:52.600 all these decades, I'd never seen a picture of it. 126 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:56.960 I'd never seen and this was a photo. Somebody had 127 00:08:57.080 --> 00:08:59.080 the bike and took a photo of it and was 128 00:08:59.200 --> 00:09:02.080 selling it. And so I look at the city and 129 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:04.919 it says Enid, and I'm like, you gotta be kidding. 130 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:12.120 So somebody in Enid has a replica from the seventies 131 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:14.960 of my bananas bike and they're selling it and it 132 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:17.840 was listed at one hundred dollars. And I look at 133 00:09:17.879 --> 00:09:21.159 the name and it's a guy named George Gordon. Well, 134 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:26.240 I know George Gordon. He kind of deals in antiques 135 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:28.840 and retro things. He goes to auctions and garage sales 136 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:32.240 and buys them and turns around and sells them online 137 00:09:32.320 --> 00:09:36.320 and in his booth. And he literally lives two blocks 138 00:09:36.840 --> 00:09:41.440 right over there. So I messaged him real quick, told 139 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:44.559 him I wanted the bike. He said, cool, come get it. 140 00:09:44.919 --> 00:09:48.559 I walked two blocks over to his house, told him

141 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:50.840 the whole story about and it was. I mean, when 142 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:53.399 I walked up it's got a little bit of rust 143 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:57.000 and the tires are flat and the grips are missing 144 00:09:57.799 --> 00:10:01.480 from the handlebars. But other than that, I don't It's 145 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:05.720 out in the garage right now. The seat isn't really 146 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:08.840 torn up or anything. The seats in great condition. The 147 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:13.919 overall bike is in great condition, except for a little 148 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:15.879 bit of rust here and there, and like I said, 149 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:21.000 that other stuff, but it was freaking my bike, and 150 00:10:21.759 --> 00:10:25.879 so he knew a little bit about it. But having 151 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:30.039 the bike and reading the stickers on it and everything, 152 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:35.399 I was able to find information about it online. And 153 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:37.759 I don't have all the details in front of me, 154 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:41.799 but you know, it was an O Tasco something Flyer 155 00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:46.200 or something like that, and you know, I finally tracked 156 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:48.600 down all of the stuff. So anyway, it is sitting 157 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:52.639 in my garage right now. I'm thinking about I don't 158 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:56.399 know that I want to return it to new condition. 159 00:10:56.720 --> 00:11:01.039 I kind of like the patina and the the you know, 160 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:03.399 just the look of it, like it could be my 161 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:06.840 bike from the seventies. I know it's not because I 162 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:10.240 painted mine black and took everything off of it made 163 00:11:10.279 --> 00:11:12.879 it a BMX bike, So I know it's not mine, 164 00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:17.399 but it looks exactly like mine would have had I 165 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:20.879 kept it from the seventies. So I think I'm thinking 166 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:24.440 about getting it, you know, cleaned up and restored to 167 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:28.399 a point where it's just clean tire, it's rideable, looks 168 00:11:28.440 --> 00:11:31.320 good and all that. So that's the first thing I 169 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:35.159 thought that was pretty cool that I now own an 170 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:39.440 exact copy of my Bananas bike. Another thing that just 171 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:41.879 happened not too long ago, I don't know, we may 172 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:48.600 be going on a year now was my Klamu Calamu 173 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:53.799 Kalamazoo Kalamazoo guitar. And so, if you know, I've got 174 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:58.120 a collection of guitars here in the studio, and I 175 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:01.600 had bought my fourth guitar. I decided I wanted to 176 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:07.519 buy a telecaster because I've got a Fender American Stratocaster, 177 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:11.039 I've got a Les Paul copy but it's made by 178 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:14.759 a company that Gibson owns, and I've got an acoustic 179 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:18.360 electric So I thought, you know, I'm gonna buy a 180 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:21.000 telecaster since so many people have telecasters, I want to 181 00:12:21.039 --> 00:12:24.879 figure out what it is about telecasters that people like. 182 00:12:25.399 --> 00:12:27.240 And I also wanted to get kind of a plain 183 00:12:27.320 --> 00:12:31.279 one because I'm thinking about doing some art making it 184 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:33.480 an art piece. So anyway, so I bought it. But 185 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:36.919 after I bought it, I got to thinking, because of 186 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:40.320 the other nostalgic things that I had been collecting, I thought, 187 00:12:40.360 --> 00:12:43.720 I wonder I'd never really thought about it before until 188 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:47.639 I got my fourth guitar. I thought, I wonder if 189 00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:51.919 you could ever find an old Kalamazoo. So I got 190 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:56.960 online and started looking and actually started finding information on 191 00:12:57.200 --> 00:13:00.360 my old kalama Zoo. And they were actually made in 192 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:03.840 the sixties, and they had a couple of colors. I 193 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:06.720 know there was red. Mine was red, and they had 194 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:10.039 like a baby blue, and I think there might have 195 00:13:10.120 --> 00:13:12.240 been one other color. And then some of them were 196 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:16.720 dual pickup and some of them were single pickup, and 197 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:20.799 mine was a red with two pickups. And I actually 198 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:28.759 found two Kalamazoo red double pickup guitars on like eBay 199 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:31.440 and somewhere else, and one was five hundred dollars and 200 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:35.000 one was fifteen hundred dollars. And I thought, you know, 201 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:43.919 there's no reason to buy one of those, but at 202 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:46.639 least now I know that there's some out there should 203 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:48.960 I ever want to and all this, and so I 204 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:51.799 posted about it on Facebook, and I think I posted 205 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:54.480 a picture and said something like, yeah, I wish I 206 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:59.600 had saved my Calamu Zoo electric guitar, you know, rather 207 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:01.879 than getting rid of it. However, I don't even remember 208 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:05.639 how I got rid of it. And I posted that 209 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:08.399 on Facebook, so you know, a lot of my friends 210 00:14:08.519 --> 00:14:12.000 knew that that was the guitar that I had. And 211 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:15.120 the funny thing is, timing wise, it

was only a 212 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:17.840 couple of weeks. A week or a couple of weeks 213 00:14:17.960 --> 00:14:21.159 after I posted that, I get a text from one 214 00:14:21.240 --> 00:14:24.440 of my old classmates here in Enid and he said, 215 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:30.240 I think your Kalamazoo guitar is down at Fingerpicking Good. Well. 216 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:34.919 Fingerpicking Good is the local used guitar shop, and I said, 217 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:38.399 you got to be kidding, And so I ran down 218 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:43.600 there and I walked in and up on their deal 219 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:51.799 of used guitars, there was a red Kalamazoo double pickup guitar, 220 00:14:53.279 --> 00:15:00.240 pristine shape, looked exactly exactly like the one I had. 221 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:03.399 And here's here's a really weird thing you guys are 222 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:06.759 gonna think is really weird. There's something about the pick 223 00:15:06.919 --> 00:15:11.759 guard or the knobs or something in the guitar that 224 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:17.960 always had this funny little smell, and that guitar had 225 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:26.159 the exact same smell. I mean, it just instantly recognized 226 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:30.639 the smell, and so I asked, you know, I got 227 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:35.000 it down, played it. It was in perfect condition. The 228 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:37.320 nut on it was just a little bit worn, so 229 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:41.440 the strings were a little bit low. But ask if 230 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:43.440 it had a case. He pulled out the case. The 231 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:50.679 case looked exactly, same wear spots, same everything as my case. 232 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:55.639 And so they were asking five hundred on it. So 233 00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:59.320 I thought, you know, it's at least according to online, 234 00:15:59.399 --> 00:16:02.519 it's at least worth five hundred. So if I bought it, 235 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:06.200 I was thinking I could at least sell it for 236 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:09.240 what I bought it for. So I went just for nostalgia. 237 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:11.519 I went ahead and bought it, and he gave me 238 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:16.279 fifty dollars credit because he also sells vinyl albums, and 239 00:16:16.360 --> 00:16:19.200 so I got fifty dollars credit for vinyl albums. So 240 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:22.799 I actually only paid four hundred and fifty for it. 241 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:27.840 But so I've got it in here. And so those 242 00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:31.480 were like my two major big things that you know, 243 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:35.679 I had wondered about, and now not only have I 244 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:38.440 found him or seen him, I own both of them. 245 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:41.200 Next thing on my list. So this happened just the 246 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:45.559 other day. I remember growing up when I was a 247 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:49.360 little kid, and we're talking late sixties, early seventies. I 248 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:53.919 always remember this Baby Ruth commercial from when I was 249 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:57.399 growing up, that there was this kid eating a Baby 250 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:02.519 Ruth candy bar and he would look into the end 251 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:05.400 of the Baby Ruth wrapper and there was a candy 252 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:08.880 store and a little tiny candy store in the end 253 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:12.240 of the Baby Ruth rapper, and in the candy store 254 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:16.880 was a candy store owner behind the counter selling candy. 255 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:21.000 And like I said, this was like fifty five years 256 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:25.440 ago the last time I saw that commercial. So and 257 00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:29.920 I asked people about it, and I never found anybody 258 00:17:29.960 --> 00:17:35.200 that remembered the commercial. And I would search for it online, 259 00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:40.200 you know, on the internet, on social media, you know, 260 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:42.519 more and more stuff gets uploaded all the time, and 261 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:45.000 so I was always searching for it and never found it. 262 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:49.640 But just a couple of weeks ago, on Father's Day, 263 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:54.960 I wanted to play another thing that I remember from 264 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:58.279 growing up in the late sixties and early seventies, because 265 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:02.000 that was the time. The very last time I ever 266 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:05.160 saw my dad was in the late sixties. And then 267 00:18:05.359 --> 00:18:07.240 my parents got divorced and he left and I never 268 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:10.000 saw him again. And so there was this commercial, and 269 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:14.920 it was anti smoking commercial PSA like father, like son, 270 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:18.200 and this little boy and his dad are doing all 271 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:20.319 these things together, and I always remember that they were 272 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:22.599 washing a car together. And then at the end of 273 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:26.160 the commercial, they sit under tree and the dad there's 274 00:18:26.200 --> 00:18:29.000 a pack of cigarettes and the little boy looks over, 275 00:18:29.160 --> 00:18:31.119 and you know, it's kind of like like father like son, 276 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:34.200 and basically they're saying, you know, whatever the dad does, 277 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:37.319 the son's going to do, so don't smoke. But I 278 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:41.480 always remember that commercial, and so I wanted to see 279 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:45.240 if I could find that commercial to put it online 280 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:48.799 for Father's Day. Well I found it. It was on YouTube, 281 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:53.839 I think. So I found the video, uploaded it to 282

00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:57.400 my Facebook page for Father's Day, and then for some 283 00:18:57.599 --> 00:19:00.279 reason later that day, I got to thinking, you know 284 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:05.079 what if I found that Father's Day PSA or not. 285 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:08.559 It wasn't for Father's Day, but non smoking. I wonder 286 00:19:08.759 --> 00:19:11.319 if I searched hard enough, if I could find the 287 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:14.839 Baby Ruth commercial. So I started searching again. Well, bam, 288 00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:20.160 that Baby Ruth commercial after all of these decades, fifty 289 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:24.880 five years I've never seen it in fifty five years. Bam, 290 00:19:25.559 --> 00:19:29.319 it pops up on I believe YouTube. So there's this 291 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:34.640 organization now that is finding all these old videos and things, 292 00:19:35.599 --> 00:19:41.400 and I think they're somehow licensing them and uploading them 293 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:45.039 to the internet, and then they put their logo on them, 294 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:48.359 and then if you want to license and reuse them, 295 00:19:48.440 --> 00:19:50.200 you pay them money and then you can use it. 296 00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:54.319 So anyway, but there it was the Baby Ruth commercial 297 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:58.640 exactly like I remember blonde kid eating a candy bar. 298 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:00.880 He looks in the end of it and there's this 299 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:04.839 little candy store. I mean, I couldn't believe it. The 300 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:08.119 only thing that was a little bit different was in 301 00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:13.680 my mind the candy store was like modern like probably 302 00:20:13.759 --> 00:20:16.559 you know, the commercial was in the late sixties, so 303 00:20:16.680 --> 00:20:18.960 I just in my mind it was like a late 304 00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:24.039 sixties looking candy store. When actually watching the commercial, it's 305 00:20:24.119 --> 00:20:28.119 like a vintage you know, like a candy store from 306 00:20:28.160 --> 00:20:32.640 like the thirties or forties, but not really that much different, 307 00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:35.200 you know, a counter and all the candy around. I mean, 308 00:20:35.319 --> 00:20:37.440 it just I couldn't believe it. I mean I just 309 00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:42.680 could not believe after all these decades that I was 310 00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:47.599 able to find that, and then again, let's go I 311 00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:50.119 think it was probably a couple of years ago. Because 312 00:20:50.119 --> 00:20:57.240 I had found my bananasy bike, I decided, you know, 313 00:20:57.319 --> 00:21:00.680 there was we had two. We had three modes of 314 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:04.200 transportation back in the seventies, and it was on your feet, 315 00:21:05.640 --> 00:21:09.359 on your banana seat bike, or on a skateboard. And 316 00:21:09.880 --> 00:21:12.680 I mean that was a major part of our life. 317 00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:18.160 And I pretty much only owned one skateboard growing up, 318 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:25.039 and my mom bought me a blue grin Tech I 319 00:21:25.119 --> 00:21:32.680 can't remember Coyote skateboard from Otasco. And so I remember 320 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:41.400 having that skateboard. It was hard plastic. Mine had red. 321 00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:43.920 I guess they all had. I guess they had red, 322 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:50.920 no blue. One had blue wheels, and Stateon had one matching, 323 00:21:51.279 --> 00:21:54.519 but his was black with red wheels. So anyway, so 324 00:21:54.640 --> 00:22:01.359 I get on line and I search. Actually what happened 325 00:22:01.640 --> 00:22:05.480 was now I'm remembering, so I again, I was scrolling 326 00:22:05.559 --> 00:22:10.240 Facebook and a blue Grintech skateboard popped up on my 327 00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:16.839 Facebook and it was George again. He had a Blue 328 00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:21.000 Grintech skateboard. So I ran over there and I bought 329 00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:24.079 that from him, got it home and I kept thinking, 330 00:22:24.200 --> 00:22:28.359 why this just doesn't seem right. It seemed smaller than 331 00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:31.519 I remember it well. Come to find out, it was 332 00:22:31.640 --> 00:22:35.319 a blue Grintech skateboard. But it wasn't the Coyote two 333 00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:39.839 or whatever that we had. It was like a prior 334 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:43.079 version or smaller version. So that got me thinking, I 335 00:22:43.160 --> 00:22:45.960 wonder if I could find my exact skateboard. So then 336 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:50.519 I got online started looking, and sure enough, I'm pretty 337 00:22:50.519 --> 00:22:54.640 sure it was like eBay. I found my blue Grintech skateboard, 338 00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:59.319 and then I looked for black and I found Statn's. 339 00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:02.240 I don't remember off the top of my head how 340 00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:05.480 much they were, I don't know, fifty bucks or something. 341 00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:09.319 So I bought both of them. I bought the and 342 00:23:09.440 --> 00:23:11.880 it was from different people. So I bought the blue 343 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:14.839 one and I bought the bought the black one. When 344 00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:19.960 they came they were both pristine. It was almost like 345 00:23:20.079 --> 00:23:23.640 nobody had ever ridden them. The wheels were not even dirty. 346 00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:27.839 And so I don't know a little bit after that, 347 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:31.359 Styton and Michelle came to Enid and I gave Stayton 348 00:23:31.799 --> 00:23:33.839 his skateboard back and we took him out and we 349 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:37.880 did some skateboarding down at the old hill that we 350 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:40.799 used to skateboard on, so that was cool. So I've 351 00:23:40.839 --> 00:23:44.720 got I've got

Migrantech skateboard in here, and then I've 352 00:23:44.759 --> 00:23:47.480 got the other one that I bought, so I've actually 353 00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:51.799 got two, two different models. So I've got those right 354 00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:55.079 over here. You guys really can't see. But so one 355 00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:58.559 of the bad things, weird things I did was, you know, 356 00:23:58.680 --> 00:24:03.680 as time went on, you know, the nineties, the two thousands, 357 00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:07.160 the two thousand tens, you know, I got married and 358 00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:11.240 had kids and was moving from this house to that house. 359 00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:16.079 And so when we moved from Seneca which is two 360 00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:20.160 blocks over to this house for the first time, I 361 00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:22.279 was going through all my stuff and I had a 362 00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:26.880 box of vinyl albums. Well at that point, I can't 363 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:31.279 remember when it was in two thousands or two tens. 364 00:24:31.279 --> 00:24:34.279 At that point, I didn't neither Denise and I or 365 00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:38.519 I had a turntable. So Number one, I had this 366 00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:40.559 box of albums that I couldn't play because I didn't 367 00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:44.599 have a turntable. Number two, none of the artists at 368 00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:48.240 that time really that I was listening to were coming 369 00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:51.160 out with vinyl. You know, everybody was streaming everything and 370 00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:54.759 I had Apple Music and Amazon Music and all this, 371 00:24:54.960 --> 00:24:59.519 so at the garage sale, I was trying to sell 372 00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:05.200 the album you know single, and then I was just basically, 373 00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:06.680 I don't know what I was going to do with 374 00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:10.119 whatever was left. But I had a guy that I 375 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:12.400 know still know today. He still got the albums. He 376 00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:14.680 came by and he said, hey, I'll give you fifty 377 00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:17.839 bucks for the whole box. I said, cool, So I 378 00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:21.279 sold him the whole box. And you know, then ten 379 00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:27.079 fifteen years go by and Vinyl makes a comeback and 380 00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:31.160 new artists start putting out all their music on vinyl again. 381 00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:36.559 So I got hit by this vinyl craze and bought 382 00:25:36.599 --> 00:25:43.519 a really cool turntable and started buying every album that 383 00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:48.640 I could remember back one at a time, one record store, 384 00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:55.440 one disc hogs online, I'd go there and basically I 385 00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:58.240 just pieced the whole so I've got I've got a 386 00:25:58.680 --> 00:26:02.720 much larger collection of vinyl now than I did in

387 00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:05.880 the seventies or when I sold the box. I'm only 388 00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:10.079 missing a few albums out of that box, but it 389 00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:14.079 was albums I could have bought them, but I never 390 00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:17.440 listened to him then, so I haven't bought him back. 391 00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:21.720 I've got, you know, exact copies pretty much ever even 392 00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:25.160 better copies probably of the albums that I had in 393 00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:28.920 that box. I have talked to the guy that I 394 00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:32.440 bought the albums from, and they're in storage and he 395 00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:37.079 he's been busy with stuff, but he I'm thinking about 396 00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:41.759 buying the whole box back from him, just to say 397 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:44.880 I have them, that I've got my own albums, even 398 00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:49.680 though I've got copies and even newer versions of everything here. 399 00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:56.559 So everything I've got here is all different or new. 400 00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:01.759 And one day I decided to out our garage here 401 00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:04.359 like a thorough cleaning, like I was going to go 402 00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:07.920 through every box to see what was in every box 403 00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:11.440 and then consolidate boxes and throw some of them away. 404 00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:14.359 And there was one box that was kind of flat 405 00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:18.000 that I haven't and it didn't have a whole lot 406 00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:20.279 of stuff in it, and so I never really it 407 00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:23.559 had just gone from house to house and I never 408 00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:25.480 really thought much about what was in it. It was 409 00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:28.799 kind of a lighter box and I opened it up 410 00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:32.599 and I can't remember there was something in it that 411 00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:36.240 had stuff inside of that that was inside the box. 412 00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:38.119 So it wasn't like when you open the box you 413 00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:40.480 could actually see what was in there. You had to 414 00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:42.319 open another thing. I can't remember what it was, but 415 00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:47.680 when I opened that, to my surprise, there were three 416 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:54.000 albums in there. One of them was so my favorite. 417 00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:56.119 One of my favorite bands, if not my favorite band 418 00:27:56.160 --> 00:28:00.160 in the seventies was Kansas. My version my cop be 419 00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:04.880 of two for the show. The Live Kansas album was 420 00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:08.119 in there. It has carry On Weward Sun Live, and 421 00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:12.720 Cheap Trick Day Tripper, which is a small I think 422 00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:16.079 they call him EP or something that was in there. 423 00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:21.079 And then there was a brand new album unopened still 424 00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:24.920 in the wrapper from a local band here in Enid 425 00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:30.319 that was called the Satanic Republicans, and that sounds worse 426 00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:32.839 than it is. It was basically a band here in 427 00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:37.759 Enid that got upset when the Republicans were trying to 428 00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:42.039 put labels on music, and so they as kind of 429 00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:46.319 a funny thing they named their band, you know that, 430 00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:48.759 because of what they were trying to do to music. 431 00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:52.559 But the album is actually really good and the songs 432 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:57.200 are really good, and I know the lead guitar player 433 00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:00.599 I didn't. I guess I knew and when I bought 434 00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:02.880 the album, but I didn't know him from in the past. 435 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:05.680 So anyway, I did unwrap it and I have played 436 00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:08.079 it because it's a great album. So but anyway, those 437 00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:13.119 three albums original albums, I've got back in there in 438 00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:19.160 my collection cassettes. So you know, again, I've got all 439 00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:22.680 these boxes of stuff that have followed me around from 440 00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:27.119 house to house, decade to decade. And I've always had 441 00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:32.440 this little box of cassette tapes from the seventies, and 442 00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:36.000 so I got all those out and those cassette tapes 443 00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:40.039 and I found a cassette player. Those cassette tapes have 444 00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:45.680 our band practices Reality and Rosinante from back in the day. 445 00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:49.240 They've got funny goofy skits that we used to do 446 00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:51.559 on the weekends when we'd spend the night with each other. 447 00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:55.599 They've got recordings of us on a show, a radio 448 00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:58.519 show called Boogie Check. We used to call in and 449 00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:03.039 it was kind of a state why talk show at 450 00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:06.359 night out of Oklahoma City that we would call in. 451 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:12.359 It's got those recordings, and so you know, I remembered that, 452 00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:14.880 you know, we used to call in on that show, 453 00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:18.240 but never really had proof or anything in Bam, you 454 00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:21.839 know here not only you know, do we have the memories, 455 00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:24.000 but now we've got the actual recordings and so then 456 00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:28.319 I took all of those recordings digitized them, and so 457 00:30:28.440 --> 00:30:31.599 now I've got digital copies of a lot of those 458

00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:36.720 things that are on those cassettes. I always told everybody. 459 00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:40.000 Everybody asked, you know, what metal lunch box did you 460 00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:41.960 have when you were growing up? Well, I had the 461 00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:46.920 Wild Wild West was my lunch box. And again I 462 00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:49.559 think it was the only metal lunch box I ever had. 463 00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:54.200 I remember back in the day that the little kids 464 00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:57.799 took metal lunchboxes, and as you got a little older, 465 00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:02.960 like maybe fifth and sixth grade, you started taking a 466 00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:05.440 brown paper bag because I don't know, for some reason, 467 00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:09.359 it was cooler to not have a metal lunch box. 468 00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:15.400 So I remember I hadn't seen my Wild Wild West 469 00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:18.480 lunchbox in decades, and I was in an antique store 470 00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:25.559 in Branson probably I don't know, maybe eight eight, ten 471 00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:29.480 years ago now, and I walked in and they had my, 472 00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:34.960 not mine, but a Wild Wild West metal lunch box. 473 00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:37.519 I almost bought it. It was one hundred bucks at 474 00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:42.839 the time, and I wasn't really that into collecting that 475 00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:48.599 much seventy stuff at the time. I'm trying to think 476 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.279 if we were even doing we were either not doing 477 00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:55.880 the seventies post podcast yet or we had just started 478 00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:59.319 or something. Anyway, I didn't buy it, but so over time, 479 00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:01.799 Dath I thought, well, I'm gonna look online see if 480 00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:04.960 I can find one. So I did. So I've bought 481 00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:08.599 my Wild Wild West metal lunch box. I have it 482 00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:12.519 right over there in the seventies collection. Since then, I've 483 00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:24.759 bought peanuts, Archie Sigmunding, the Sea Monsters, Speed Buggy, Superman 484 00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:29.480 or something I've got. And then I just bought Gretchen 485 00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:32.599 bought me a I'm a pay her back, but bought 486 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:37.519 me a six million dollar Man metal lunchbox. So I'm 487 00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:40.640 trying not to collect them. I'm trying to stop. But 488 00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:44.759 so I've got a whole bunch of metal lunchboxes back. 489 00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:49.119 Here's a kind of a cool deal. So talking about 490 00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:51.960 the band we had. Our band, we were kind of 491 00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:58.440 a cover band, played a lot of Kansas, a little 492 00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:08.240 bit of Oreo, Finn Lizzie bto groups like that. And 493 00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:12.119 then every now and then it seems like I would 494 00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:15.960 get kind of a riff or something and we'd all 495 00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:20.559 get together and so we probably wrote three or four songs, 496 00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:24.200 and there was one song that we really you know, 497 00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:28.559 we really liked called Midnight Dreaming, and that's the one 498 00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:31.240 that we played a lot, and we played it to 499 00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:35.039 try to get in on the high school talent show, 500 00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:38.400 which we did not make because we played it too loud, 501 00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:42.039 and one teacher said we were too loud and gave 502 00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:44.599 us just a low enough score that we didn't make 503 00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:49.000 the talent show, which is pretty disappointing. But anyway, so 504 00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:55.160 I've had the music, the the sheet that we wrote 505 00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:58.640 down the words the lyrics and the music to, and 506 00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:02.599 anything that we kind of had lyrics to that we'd 507 00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:06.839 written ourselves has been in this folder following us around 508 00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:13.639 for again for decades. And Todd, at one point several 509 00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:17.559 I don't know, probably eight ten years ago, had said, 510 00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:21.559 you know that his son ought to played on the 511 00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:24.639 piano and record it so we could have a recorded 512 00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:26.880 version of it. Because I don't have a recorded version 513 00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:30.679 of that. Everything that we practiced on my cassette tapes 514 00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:36.079 is cover songs. I have not found a version of 515 00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:38.679 Midnight Dreaming, and even if I did, it would be 516 00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:42.480 really bad because the quality on the cassettes is really bad. 517 00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:48.400 But anyway, he moved off, and then Todd said something 518 00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:50.039 about you know, we ought to send that song to 519 00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:53.239 Derek and have him record it. Blah blah blah. Fast 520 00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:58.760 forward to you know, months ago, six months ago. AI 521 00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:03.440 comes along. Suno comes along, and I hear that you 522 00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:12.000 can input lyrics alone, or you can put in lyrics 523 00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:16.079 and music, or you can put in a whole song 524 00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:20.039 where you're singing, you know, where you just play on 525 00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:23.360 an acoustic by yourself. You put it in and Suno 526 00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:26.360 turns it into the sound of a full band. So 527 00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:30.320 even though some of you they're gonna roll your eyes 528 00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:36.960 because

it's Ai, AI is just you know, making the band. 529 00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:41.719 It's like it's like if you're a single solo artist 530 00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:47.159 and you use one of those beat things, I can't 531 00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:51.079 looper or whatever where you you know, I mean it's technology. 532 00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:53.920 You're you're still cheating if you want to say AI 533 00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:57.079 is cheating. The way that we used AI is not cheating. 534 00:35:57.199 --> 00:36:04.719 We inputed the lyrics and the music and AI spit 535 00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:11.239 out a professional version of our song. It didn't steal 536 00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:16.039 anything from anybody because it was using the tone and 537 00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:18.599 the voice of Stayton, because he's the one that's sang it. 538 00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:21.280 When I put it in. It used our exact lyrics, 539 00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:23.039 so it didn't make up any lyrics. It didn't steal 540 00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:26.800 lyrics from anybody, our exact notes because Stayton played it 541 00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:29.639 on an acoustic guitar, so it knew exactly what the 542 00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:35.840 notes were. So AI just recorded in a professional sounding 543 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:39.760 way a song that we had already created. And so 544 00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:44.800 that's another thing that I mean almost like got a 545 00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:47.199 tear in my eye. I couldn't believe how cool it 546 00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:52.320 was hearing something that we had written in the seventies 547 00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:57.360 sounding like it was recorded by like a real band. 548 00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:03.280 It was cool. So we've got that another here's another thing. So, 549 00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:09.760 so my family has lived in Enid since nineteen hundred. 550 00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:12.239 My dad came to Enid because he was in the 551 00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:15.760 Air Force in the late sixties, met my mom, they 552 00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:20.360 got married, They got stationed at some bases. While they 553 00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:23.119 were stationed in San Antonio, I was born, So I 554 00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:26.320 was born in San Antonio. Then we did some base hopping, 555 00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:30.400 ended up in Turkey. I spent several of my first 556 00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:34.880 years in Turkey. Then we moved back to the States 557 00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:39.440 and we moved to a town called Burns Flat, Oklahoma, 558 00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:43.199 and the base there was Clinton Sherman Air Force Base, 559 00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:50.199 And so I was, you know, kindergarten five six, five 560 00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:54.639 six seven in there five six seven, somewhere in that age. 561 00:37:54.760 --> 00:38:00.199 But I remember living in Burns Flat. I remember the 562 00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:02.559 layout of our house. I remember what our house looked

like. 563 00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:06.920 I remember my grade school. I remember that we lived 564 00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:08.920 on a corner and it was the bus stop. I 565 00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:12.119 remember there was a light pole and in the summer 566 00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:14.199 we would sit under it and kids would tell stories. 567 00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:19.840 I remember there was this wild bush that smelled really 568 00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:23.760 good and it always attracted moths and butterflies. So I 569 00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:27.599 had all these memories of living in Burns Flat, and 570 00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:31.239 then Burns Flat was the last place I remember, or 571 00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:33.880 really the only place I really remember my dad. We 572 00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:37.760 would play catch out in the front yard and then 573 00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:43.440 that's where he did his thing. And my mom left 574 00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:47.519 him and moved us from Burns Flat back to Enid, 575 00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:51.360 and then he got shipped off to Nebraska and they 576 00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:54.519 got divorced and I never saw him again. So I 577 00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:57.760 kind of always had this, you know, I don't know, 578 00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:02.639 kind of family good feeling. And I had a best friend, 579 00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.679 like the first best friend I can remember was on 580 00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:12.119 the base. So one day I thought, with all the 581 00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:16.239 technology that we have and Google street View, I thought 582 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:19.880 I wonder if I could find my house on Google 583 00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:27.199 street View. So I go to the Google Maps and 584 00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:31.119 I go to Burns Flat. And here's the thing is, 585 00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:37.400 I remember where we lived versus where the school was, 586 00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:40.800 because I knew that we lived on a corner that 587 00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:44.119 was on the street that went straight to the school, 588 00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:47.760 and the school was like downhill a little bit, so 589 00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:53.199 I pretty much knew the street. If I could find 590 00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:57.559 the school, I could find my house by just going 591 00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:01.440 to every corner until I found the house that looked 592 00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:05.079 like I remember. And that's what I did. I went 593 00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:09.320 to Burns Flat, dropped the little dude on street view, 594 00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:14.519 went to the grade school, will Rogers Elementary, and then 595 00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:19.480 I just started walking up the street and at every 596 00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:23.320 corner I would stop and look at the house on 597 00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:26.559 the corner until I got to the street that had 598 00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:30.719 the house that I lived on, and so there it was. 599 00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:36.119 So I've got pictures, you know, I've taken screenshots of 600 00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:39.000 the house. I've never been back to Burns Flat as 601 00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:43.800 an adult, but I've been there on Google Images. So 602 00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:47.599 it's pretty cool. I've found my house in Burns Flat, Oklahoma, 603 00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:51.960 just from my memories. And then another thing on that 604 00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:57.280 is I always remember that dang bush. How to me 605 00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:01.159 in my mind, it was this big, old, big bush 606 00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:06.119 and it had purple, little tiny purple flowers coming out 607 00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:11.239 of it, and it I say gray, but it had leaves, 608 00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:15.760 skinny leaves on it that weren't like like green green. 609 00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:21.000 They were like kind of an odd grayish green in 610 00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:26.440 my mind, and so I've always wondered what that bush was. Well, 611 00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:30.800 within the last year I started looking and come to 612 00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:35.039 find out my neighbor right here in this house, like 613 00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:38.840 on the other side of Shaggy Duck studio, he's got 614 00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:43.599 that exact bush in his yard. And so I've taken 615 00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:45.320 a picture of it. And if you know, you can 616 00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:50.000 take a photo and Google not Google, Apple will tell you, 617 00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:52.519 you know, if it's an animal or a bush or 618 00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:55.599 a bird, it'll tell you what the picture is of. 619 00:41:55.800 --> 00:42:01.599 And so it told me it is a let me 620 00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:11.599 find it vtext vtext or a c cha ste tree. 621 00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:15.039 It's not a tree. It's a bush, but they calling 622 00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:20.719 it a chasty tree. But it's of the vitext variety. 623 00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:24.960 And I think it's kind of a lavender type thing. 624 00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:29.119 It's not like a lavender plant. It's like this big 625 00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:32.320 it gets big that anyway. So I have found that 626 00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:34.800 I have tracked that down and there was one right 627 00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:42.039 here the whole time. Next thing, let's see, oh friends, 628 00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:46.639 So now there's one friend. If you happen to run 629 00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:50.760 across this, Steve rop get a hold of me. Steve 630 00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:54.039 rop is one of the guys that I haven't tracked 631 00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:57.280 down yet. But some of the guys that I knew 632 00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:01.079 from the seventies I hadn't talked to in decades. One 633 00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:03.320 of them was Eric Wright. So Eric Wright was my 634 00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:10.599 grade school Enid grade school best

friend, like from first, second, third, fourth, 635 00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:15.320 fifth grades, and then Steve Ropp was also in that group. 636 00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:18.360 But so Eric and I were best friends up until 637 00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:21.639 sixth grade. Then in sixth grade we got separated in 638 00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:25.239 different classes. I met Staton. We got to junior High, 639 00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:28.400 had a whole set, different set of friends. He and I. 640 00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:33.519 We probably didn't say ten words to each other all 641 00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:37.000 through junior high and high school, and then everybody went 642 00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:39.280 off to college. I think I ran into him once 643 00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:44.519 after college. I think he'd come back to Enid because 644 00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:47.159 his father had passed away and he was here for 645 00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:49.440 the funeral, and I ran into him at a club 646 00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:54.400 and we talked for maybe five minutes. But anyway, I decided, 647 00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:57.239 you know, as time went on, to try to track 648 00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:01.119 him down again. So I tracked him down living and 649 00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:07.079 working in Iowa. Always remembered, now, I always remembered when 650 00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:09.679 his birthday was September eleventh, And I don't know why, 651 00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:14.039 and it's not because of September eleventh, because I remembered 652 00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:20.840 before September eleventh, the you know, bombing, but or the 653 00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:27.039 airplane tragedy. But so anyway, I started emailing him every 654 00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:29.760 year on his birthday, and so we have stayed in touch. Now, 655 00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:33.079 we haven't seen each other since that one time, which 656 00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:39.880 that was probably in the mid eighties. I haven't physically 657 00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:44.199 seen him since that eighties, but we're going to try 658 00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:47.079 to get together meet in maybe Kansas City. But we 659 00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:50.199 email each other on our birthday every year. And then 660 00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:55.880 another guy was Mike Steerman, who left in the late 661 00:44:56.039 --> 00:44:59.719 seventies maybe early eighties, had moved to Tulsa. But then 662 00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:02.960 we kind of kept in touch a little bit for 663 00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:05.239 a couple of years, and then he went off and 664 00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:09.599 we lost contact. And then when I married Denise in 665 00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:13.920 ninety eight I found him somehow. I tracked him down 666 00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:16.360 and I said, I invited him to the wedding and 667 00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:18.719 he came, which was really cool. So we all got 668 00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:21.960 together and that was in ninety eight, and

then we 669 00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:26.480 all kind of went our ways again, and I hadn't 670 00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:33.400 seen him for quite a while, maybe ten twenty years, 671 00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:40.400 and then tracked him down again in Dallas and Stanton 672 00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:44.920 and I and our wives we all met and had lunch, 673 00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:49.960 and then because and I had the same thing with him, 674 00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:53.159 I had started I remembered his birthday, which was December tenth, 675 00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:57.440 so I started messaging him on LinkedIn. That was the 676 00:45:57.519 --> 00:45:58.960 only way I knew how to get a hold of him. 677 00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:01.880 And I would message him on LinkedIn on his birthday 678 00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:04.239 every year, and so he and I stayed and touched 679 00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:08.960 that way, and then that's how we met. Anyway, we 680 00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:13.320 Styon and I went and met with him, oh, a 681 00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:16.960 couple like three weeks ago, two three weeks ago down 682 00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:19.239 in Dallas, and I hadn't seen him forever, and we 683 00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:22.400 sat there for three hours and caught up and could 684 00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:26.440 have talked for another six hours. But so those are 685 00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:28.599 two friends. So I'm still looking for Steve Rop. Have 686 00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:32.559 not seen Steve rop in. Steve Rop I lost connection 687 00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:36.159 with in grade school. He didn't even make it to 688 00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:39.039 junior high, so I don't know. I don't know if 689 00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:41.559 he'd even remember me. I would think he would, but 690 00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:43.320 you never know. So if you guys know where Steve 691 00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:48.079 rop is, his sister was Susan Ropp, have him get 692 00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:53.840 a hold of me. Movies. You know, you remember movies. 693 00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:58.480 You know, two of our favorite movies from the seventies 694 00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:02.920 was The Warriors and Phantasm, and those are just two 695 00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:06.639 movies that a lot of people at the time hadn't seen. Well, 696 00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:09.480 I've tracked those movies down. I have the DVDs. Not 697 00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:13.039 only do I have the DVDs of the movies, but 698 00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:17.639 I also have the vinyl of the soundtrack and scores 699 00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:21.599 of the movies. And of course you can now find 700 00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:25.239 them both on streaming services. So I watch them, you know, 701 00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:29.400 probably at least once a year. Warriors I was probably 702 00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:32.159 watching two times a year, two or three times a 703 00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:34.639 year there for a little while. But now I think 704 00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:37.320 we got rid of that service where I could get 705 00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:40.079 to it really quick, and so now I don't watch 706 00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:47.960 it as much. When my grandma died, we went through 707 00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:50.400 her house and everybody was kind of saying, hey, I 708 00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:53.239 want this I want that, and I remembered. So she 709 00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:57.440 had moved into my great grandma's house and basically kept 710 00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:02.800 everything from my great grandma plus added all her stuff. 711 00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:08.119 She was a hoarder, I mean a bonafide horder, and so, 712 00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:10.920 you know, it took weeks to go through her house 713 00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:13.639 after she passed away. There was you know, there was 714 00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:17.960 just a path, you know, through her house to each room, 715 00:48:18.880 --> 00:48:22.079 but you couldn't deviate from the path because there was 716 00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:25.119 stuff piled up all the way and it wasn't really trash. 717 00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:31.400 It was carpet squares and Teddy Bear stuffed Teddy Bears 718 00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:36.199 and romance novels and garage sale stuff. And if you 719 00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:39.199 went into her living room there was really no place 720 00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:41.840 to set you know. So but anyway, the one thing 721 00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:44.239 that I remember that my great grandma had was these 722 00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:47.679 two little Scottie dogs, a white one and a black one, 723 00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:50.440 and they had magnets on the bottom, and I used 724 00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:52.599 to play with them for hours as a little kid, 725 00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:55.719 and I wanted those and we went through everything and 726 00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:59.199 could never find them. But since then I have found 727 00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:02.280 two sets. So now I have two sets of the 728 00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:06.039 Scottie dogs. I don't think they're vintage I don't think 729 00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:08.480 they're from the seventies. I think I think they still 730 00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:13.840 make them, but I've got those. And then here was 731 00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:17.000 you know, I always talk about the Gang of five. 732 00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:20.599 You know, we all lived on West Broadway. There was 733 00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:25.920 me Styton Brendan. We were all in miss Missus McMillan's 734 00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:29.519 class in sixth grade. And then there was David Rathmann 735 00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:33.840 and Jason Gilbo. We all five lived on West Broadway. 736 00:49:33.840 --> 00:49:37.239 Those two were actually when we were in sixth grade. 737 00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:42.079 They were in fourth grade. But because we all kind 738 00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:45.679 of lived near each other, those guys lived near each 739 00:49:45.719

--> 00:49:47.519 other than I did. I was the furthest one away, 740 00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:50.119 but we all played on West Broadway. So that was 741 00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:54.360 our gang of five. I had never there was I 742 00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:58.280 don't think there is a known photo of all five 743 00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:02.159 of us together. I don't think think anybody's parent ever 744 00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:07.320 took a photo. So we would spend our summers like 745 00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:12.199 constantly playing musculnes and riding our banana see bikes and 746 00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:15.719 skateboards and going into Boggy Creek and going through the 747 00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:19.519 tunnels and you know everything we did for like two summers, 748 00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:22.880 two or three summers we built the maize. All that 749 00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:26.719 stuff was that core five. When we play our games, 750 00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:31.320 we almost always had that core five and then other 751 00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:34.360 people from other streets would come over and join in. 752 00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:40.800 And then Brendan left, you know, once we got into 753 00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:45.880 junior high. Then then we kind of after like our 754 00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:48.719 second year in junior high, we kind of quit hanging 755 00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:52.360 out with I think Jason moved across town anyway, we 756 00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:54.360 all kind of moved. But we had like two or 757 00:50:54.400 --> 00:51:00.400 three years and summers of just constant playing. But I 758 00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:04.360 never had a photo. Still don't have a photo of 759 00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:08.039 all five of us. But out of the blue several 760 00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:11.840 years ago, I'm gonna say, I don't know, six five, 761 00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:15.320 six years ago, one of the guys that lived one 762 00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:24.519 street over on Oklahoma or Maine. I think he maybe 763 00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:28.679 he lived on Maine. He had moved. He had left 764 00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:32.000 before he graduated from high school. So I had hardly 765 00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:36.000 kept up with him. But because of Facebook, we kind 766 00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:41.639 of reconnected. On Facebook is Bruce Bruce Bradley, and so 767 00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:45.760 we communicate quite a bit now through messages. Still haven't 768 00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:49.639 seen each other since our old OSU days, which was 769 00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:52.840 in the early eighties, But I'm gonna try to get 770 00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:57.400 with him anyway. He out of the blue sent me 771 00:51:57.519 --> 00:52:00.880 a video one day, like I say, maybe five six 772 00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:06.360 years ago that he had found I think his parents 773 00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:08.679 had passed away and they were going through stuff and 774 00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:12.199 he found this video. This video was and I'd kind 775 00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:15.119 of forgotten that well, I had forgotten that it was 776 00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:20.079 even taken. But Bruce's parents had a Super eight no 777 00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:26.679 sound but color, nice quality camera that he brought over 778 00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:30.360 and filmed us one day while we were on West 779 00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:35.280 Broadway at the church where we always played and did musculines. Well, 780 00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:39.400 we all had our bikes and our skateboards and he 781 00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:43.320 filmed all of us. So I've got video of all 782 00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:51.400 five of us me, Stayton, Brendan, Jason, David, plus Bruce 783 00:52:52.360 --> 00:53:03.880 and Chauncey and Mike and Tommy and you know some 784 00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:06.639 of the added guys. So that is the only known 785 00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:09.320 And so I've taken some screenshots. It's not like there's 786 00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:13.920 only a few shots where we're all visible in the 787 00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:20.400 same scene. But yeah, talking about blowing my socks off, 788 00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:23.320 I could not believe that. You know, it showed our 789 00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:29.000 grintech skateboards, It showed our those funky fast track shoes 790 00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:31.920 that we used to wear. It was very cool. So anyway, 791 00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:41.440 so that has popped up. And last thing is, you know, 792 00:53:41.719 --> 00:53:46.079 living on West Broadway, you know, there's really three houses 793 00:53:46.840 --> 00:53:51.119 that I've wanted to see. My old house on West Broadway, 794 00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:55.840 Stayton's old house, and Brendan's old house. And so Brendan's 795 00:53:55.880 --> 00:53:59.800 house has been on the market several times over the decades, 796 00:53:59.880 --> 00:54:05.280 and I've gone through it probably three times since we 797 00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:10.159 were little kids, gone through, taking video, taking pictures, especially 798 00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:12.880 of the third floor with the round wall that we 799 00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:16.599 all signed. I think I've heard that one of the 800 00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:20.480 most recent owners has finally painted over that. But I've 801 00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:24.480 got video and photos of almost all of our signatures 802 00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:29.119 in our gang that were up there. And then Stayton's house. 803 00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:33.280 For some weird reason the last decade or so, it's 804 00:54:33.320 --> 00:54:35.159 been on the market quite a bit, and one day 805 00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:37.639 when they were having an open house and it was empty, 806 00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:42.480 I went through it, and boy, talk about nostalgia, I 807 00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:45.760 mean going through Staaten's house and it was the first time. 808 00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:48.679

It was a first time I had been through his 809 00:54:48.880 --> 00:54:52.239 house since he they sold it and moved away, which 810 00:54:52.400 --> 00:54:58.360 was I think in the mid eighties, early to mid eighties. 811 00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:02.519 That was cool. Now, my house on the corner of 812 00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:10.639 Broadway and Johnson. I have not been in since gosh, 813 00:55:11.440 --> 00:55:16.519 the late seventies. I think we moved over to Grant 814 00:55:18.360 --> 00:55:23.280 either in seventy nine or eighty, so it's been since 815 00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:27.519 the seventies since I've been in that So I'm waiting 816 00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:31.320 for it to either go up for rent or for sale, 817 00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:34.480 and I'm going to tour it now. That's going to 818 00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:39.400 be a super blast from the past, because that house 819 00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:43.920 on the corner of Johnson and Broadway is where so 820 00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:47.239 many of my seventies memories are. You know, I had 821 00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:50.280 I had the hole upstairs to myself. The whole upstairs 822 00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:55.840 was like a big playroom, a bathroom, a bedroom, and 823 00:55:55.960 --> 00:55:59.920 a walk in closet with this kind of weird low ceiling, 824 00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:04.719 and the bedroom had one window, and it was kind 825 00:56:04.760 --> 00:56:09.679 of in this cutout area, and my bed would fit. 826 00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:12.800 It was a bunk bed. Some years it was a 827 00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:15.519 bunk bed, some years it was a single bed. But 828 00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:18.519 either way it would slide into that space, so my 829 00:56:18.719 --> 00:56:21.800 head would be right up against a window. And I 830 00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:28.079 spent hundreds of hours just with my chin on that 831 00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:32.400 window sill, looking out that window, and it faced east 832 00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:35.599 down Broadway to where all my buddies lived. But I 833 00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:39.280 could see my grade school, McKinley Grade School from I 834 00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:41.639 couldn't see their houses, but it was towards their house. 835 00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:46.199 But cars would zip by and kids would come by, 836 00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:48.960 you know, and I would see them and hear them, 837 00:56:49.079 --> 00:56:51.440 and people would be mowing their lawns and you could 838 00:56:51.480 --> 00:56:57.559 hear the locusts cicadas, I guess. And I just dreamed 839 00:56:57.880 --> 00:57:00.880 looking out that window. And I built things in that 840 00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:06.320 walk in closet, all kinds of cool things. And it's 841 00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:09.599 where I lived when we saw so many movies and 842 00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:15.320 Saturday Night Live on television and got things for christ. 843 00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:17.719 I mean, it just I got so many memories of 844 00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:20.559 living in that house. So I'm looking forward to hopefully 845 00:57:20.639 --> 00:57:24.400 one day getting to go back into that house. So 846 00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:29.119 that's That's kind of the main things that I've been 847 00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:35.800 nostalgic for. And so let me know what's on your list. 848 00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:41.440 What either what's something nostalgic that you are looking for 849 00:57:41.679 --> 00:57:46.280 you haven't found you can't remember, or what's something you 850 00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:51.119 did find and you've repurchased or you've started watching or 851 00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:54.800 listening to. Just let me know some of that stuff 852 00:57:54.880 --> 00:57:59.840 that you've accumulated that was from the sixties, seventies or 853 00:57:59.840 --> 00:58:02.199 eight eighties, hit me up at Curtis at Curtis Ducker 854 00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:04.519 dot com or Shags at Shaggy deck dot com. Of course, 855 00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:07.480 this episode did go longer than I expected it to, 856 00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:10.679 But now I've got it all in one spot, and 857 00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:14.480 all those different little stories about how I've been getting 858 00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:18.199 nostalgic for nostalgia. See you guys later,