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Hello everybody, welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast.
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I'm Tony Gerdeman, here as always with Tom Hortons. How's
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it going?
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Tony, I need to tell you about an emotionally upsetting
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experience that I had this morning. I am not a
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big terrestrial radio person when I'm in the car, so
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I have not listened to the radio in quite a while.
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I got in an older relative's car earlier today, and
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they had the radio on a classic rock station. And Tony,
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what song was playing on the classic rock station?
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Something from your senior year of college.
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It was not quite that new, but it was Smells
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Like Teen Spirit. And Tony, I don't know why the
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classic rock station stopped playing Foghat, but that's classic rock, Tony,
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not Smells Like Teen Spirit. That belongs on the alternative station.
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You know, and I knew exactly what you're going to
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say once you started going down this road. And then
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people will tell you, like, you know, grunge, you know,
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is further away now than when the Beatles were when
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you were in high school. And I'm like, you can go.
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I don't nobody needs to hear that.
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Speaking of emotionally upsetting things, Tony, we rewatched the Ohio
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State-Oregon game. So buckle in, everyone. It's time to relive
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a really fun three hours of everyone's life.
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Yeah, and this will also be three hours. So really,
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go ahead, Tom. Let's get you started so that you
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can be the bad guy here.
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Oh, boy. Where to begin? You know what? I'm going
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to start with a positive because the game started with
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some positives. So I'm going to say Luke Fahey and
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his ability to run the ball continues to be a
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potential positive for Ohio state. You saw a little bit
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at the beginning, he picked up some first downs or
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first down or two with his legs. You saw it
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at the end with the, the two point conversion. I
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don't remember what happened in the middle. It was probably
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all fine. I, I, who could say, but you know,
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I think, that's an area where Ohio state can probably
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do more and they're going to have to, I assume
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that it's a situation where they don't want him taking
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too many hits because they, I guess, but I think
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you're kind of at the point of the season where
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you have to just kind of go, you know, throw
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it at the wall and see what sticks. Cause there,
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there were long stretches of this game where nothing was sticking.
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So you gotta find something. And I think, there's probably
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some more meat on the bone there when it comes
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to Luke Fahey in the ground game, zone reads, that
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kind of stuff.
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Especially when none of the rest of the running game
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is going all out effectively. And for the game, they
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rushed for 53 yards, and a bunch of that is
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losses and a bad snap is some of that 17-yard
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loss in there. So it's like it wasn't only that,
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but Bo Jackson, 48 yards rushing on 11 carries, 16-yard long.
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You want to help those guys out. involve your quarterback
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a little bit, but I, yeah, I'm with you. It
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kind of gives you a further indication on how they
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feel about Tavian St. Clair at this point that they
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are running scared, if you will, passing scared, I don't know,
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handing it off scared, uh, in terms of running the
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ball with Luke Fahey. And, um, you know, I, I'll
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also go with some positives like that first, first half,
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first couple of drives, first quarter and a half, they're
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running tempo. And like, um, I think maybe the first drive,
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there were only two snaps where they snapped the ball
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under 10 seconds, and those were on the last two,
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and things were going very, very well for them, and
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they kept things moving. They kept things unpredictable, and so
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that was effective, and of course you saw Oregon do
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that through much of this game, which was also effective
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for them later on, but it showed me that Luke
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Fahey can operate the offense, but also how much of
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this was planned ryan day says they don't script plays
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but they were clearly doing stuff that he was accustomed
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to and then later in the game and i and
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i wanted to chart it i didn't end up charting
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it to see like in the second third and fourth
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quarter how often were they still you know snapping the
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ball with 28 seconds left on the clock because it
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again it felt like probably not as.
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Often yeah right when when the opponent is going up
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and down on the field on you it's it becomes
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kind of a priority in some ways to not have
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real short drives. So I, you know, you kind of
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get it, but at the same time, again, it feels
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like there's something there that they can go back to.
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You would like to see them go back to it.
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I think, I think there are opportunities there. And I
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think there are opportunities to get the ball to Jeremiah
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Smith more in the passing game. Now you would be
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hard pressed to get the ball less to Jeremiah Smith
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than they did in the middle two quarters of this game.
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But you know, the first quarter of this game, very
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uncharacteristic drop from Jeremiah Smith in the, on that real,
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that downfield shot into the end zone. That was one
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where I was, that happened right in front of me. And,
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but the defender was between me and, and the ball.
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So I did not get a great look at it
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until watching the game back. I thought, boy, the defender
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made a great play on that. I was like, no,
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that ball hit him in the chest and he just
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didn't catch it. Like that is a very uncharacteristic drop
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for Jeremiah Smith, but It was there. They protected that.
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That's a play he's going to make. You know, it's
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not a 50 50 ball. It's probably about an 80
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20 ball, give or take. And that was that was
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one of the 20 percent. And it was not, you know,
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tip your hat to the defender. It was just you
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didn't make the play that should be there against Northwestern,
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at least sometimes. I think, though, they've been a little
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too all or nothing in the passing game where it's
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been a lot of. hard play action, drop back, throw
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one 60 yards down the field. Like there are opportunities
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there in the passing game, in the, you know, intermediate,
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there are passes you can make Tony between the line
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of scrimmage and 50 yards down the field. And I
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think that's a space that Ohio state probably needs to
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explore a little more because the, there were a number
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of hospital balls thrown at or near the line of scrimmage.
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I think you gotta, you gotta do some more stuff
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in that sort of intermediate range. And, you can throw
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the ball to Jeremiah Smith in that intermediate range. You
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don't have to throw it to him just on the
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edge or just 50 yards downfield, run some slants, run some,
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you know, just pull some, you know, RPO, pull it through,
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hit him on a slant. Like there's, there's stuff that's
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open there. And there were times that he was open
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as well, where they didn't, you know, the ball didn't
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go to him. And, and that's not all Luke Fahey.
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He didn't see him because he's short. Sometimes he's throwing,
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you know, sometimes the read is going other places, but,
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with Ohio state launching a Heisman campaign for Jeremiah Smith,
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you would sort of assume that the ball is probably
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going to head his way a little more often moving forward.
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Cause that's also, you know, if you throw the ball
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to Jeremiah Smith more at this point, I don't think
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anyone's going to go, why are you doing that? Like,
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even if it doesn't work, it's try, you know, try
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and give your best player a chance to make a
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play at this point. Cause you've, you've looked in a
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lot of different other areas and it hasn't necessarily worked.
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So I think you're going to see more of that
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in the last three games here.
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Especially now with Phillip Bell also on the availability report
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and Brock Boyd probably out for the regular season and
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Brandon Innes, who knows not even dressing at this point.
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So yeah, maybe, maybe throw it to your best guy.
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They did show one of the plays where I'm on
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third down. where they've got a design for Jeremiah and
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Fahey never even looks to his side. He's immediately looking
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at Devin McEwen. And I think that's one of the
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ones that Arthur Smith talked about on Tuesday, where just
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the pre-snap read, they liked that matchup. And that was
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a one-on-one that they thought they, that Fahey thought he
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would win. So he went that way. Um, so that
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is what it is. I think a lot of the, uh,
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there's some bad offensive line play throughout this game. There
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was one where, uh, Fahey was sacked and the, the
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left end went right around Philip Daniels and Bo Jackson.
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And then Bo Jackson just kind of leaked out like, Hey,
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you can throw it to me. And it's like, no,
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I can't. You've got two guys there to block the
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edge guy. And neither one of them was able to
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do it and led to a sack. There was a
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screen pass in this game where to Bo Jackson, there
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were three offensive linemen out there. None of them got
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anybody and it was a five yard tackle for loss. And,
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you contrast that with the success that Oregon was having
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in the screen game and the lack of success that
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Ohio state has had in the screen game all season long,
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essentially in terms of they're trying it, but there's just
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one or two things, sometimes more than two things that
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have blown up in their faces. So, and, and that
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one with Bo Jackson and Phillip Daniels, that was third
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and seven, they're up 14 to three. Like, you convert
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a first down there and who knows what happens and
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you can keep some of that momentum, but yeah, not
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a great day for the offensive line. And you can
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tell by the running game as well. Yeah.
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Not a great day for the offensive line, not a
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great season for the offensive line. It's just, it's been complicated.
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of uninspired and just kind of consistently inconsistent. And it's not,
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it's not always one person. It's not always one spot
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on the line. It's not always one thing that gets them.
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It's like, yeah, sometimes they get beat off the edge.
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Sometimes they get beat with a twist. Sometimes they get,
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you know, it just, sometimes someone just misses, misses an assignment.
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There was a play that, uh, I reviewed with Ross
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Fulton on one of the scheme insider shows this week
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where it was a counter play and it was like
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the absolute perfect call at the absolute perfect time. And
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then you just like someone, someone just has an MA
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and then boom. And now what should have been a
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big play turns into a gain of like a yard and,
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and that's it. And it hasn't been, you know, if
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it was just always the same guy or just always
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the same issue, that's easier to address than like, well,
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They're scoring 80 percent on all these plays. Four of
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the five guys are doing the right thing on every play.
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And it's just like one guy is one guy isn't
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doing it. Who is it? Oh, it depends. It's someone
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different every time, it seems like. So that's really hard
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to adjust to.
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And my first note here from the game is there's
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a toss right. Only Luke Montgomery got his block.
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OK, I stand corrected. Sometimes they score 20 percent. But
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it's yeah, there there are definitely it has just been
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so consistently inconsistent. And it feels like there are guys
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you can rely on more frequently. And it feels like
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there are guys who have have had issues. And, you know,
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I think Gabe Van Sickle has not had a great
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couple of weeks. And it feels like that might just
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be a not like physically up to it kind of
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kind of situation. I think there are other guys who
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are physically up to it, but you just have mental issues,
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not mental issues, sorry, mental misses, I guess, on individual
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plays or just, you know, blown assignments. And it's just
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been so inconsistent and it's just, you know, Oh, here
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comes a twist. Well, how's that going to work? Well,
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probably about as well as it usually does. So yeah, it,
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that has been very frustrating. And I think that's probably
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been some of the issue with the run game, some
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of the issue with the passing game that, you know,
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that not the only issue certainly, but, a lot of
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the issues start up front. And then, you know, to
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your point about the screen game, I think the, one
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of the reasons that Ohio state has not been quite
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as effective on the offensive screen game as opponents have
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been is boy, it feels like Ohio state's real predictable. It's,
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you know, in that game, it was, it was going
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to be a lot of, okay, sit back, rush for
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cage rush. Don't let Dylan really get out. And then
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you have, you know, and then, but then it's third
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and third, you know, it's third down. So then it's
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time to go cover zero and bring the pressure. And
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Oregon also knew that. And you kept, you kept getting
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popped for screens on the times when you were bringing pressure.
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That means you're getting predictable. If they can constantly have
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the right answer in certain situations, that means you're being
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predictable in those situations. So, you know, you didn't, there
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was what one screen, I think where they threw it
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and it was they called it and he had to
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throw it at someone's feet because it was covered. But
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it felt like they were about three for four on those.
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And it wasn't like Ohio State was bringing pressure constantly.
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It was just Ohio State was bringing pressure at consistent
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points in the game. That's a problem. And that tells
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you that they know what you're doing. So you're going
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to have to adapt to that. But I think on
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a more broad perspective, I watched the game live and
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I thought, this can't possibly be where they're not bringing
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a ton of pressure, but also there's like wide open
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plays underneath. And it was like, you went back and
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rewatched and it was like, Nope, you have no one
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close to the quarterback. You also have no one close
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to the receiver. You're like counting. Do they have 11
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guys on the field? Yes, they do. Where are they? Oh, not,
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not anywhere near the football that, that feels like, you know,
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we'll see that. That feels like something that should be
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able to get corrected. Like you should be able to,
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you should not be so concerned about the deep shots
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that you're not covering the short and intermediate stuff. when
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they're hitting you on the short and intermediate stuff really consistently,
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they didn't get hit over the top. I don't think
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at all, but it was boy, the short and intermediate
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stuff really just consistently just kept getting hit on these,
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on these really crucial plays. Okay.
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And I thought there were times where Kwe Russo as
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a pass rusher was getting close and was creating some,
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a hurry. And there's one, there's a second and four
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where Kwe Russo drops into the flats and he's towards
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the sidelines, 10 yards off the line of scrimmage. It's
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second and four, And then Rayola just throws it to
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the line of scrimmage on that right side to the
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running back and, you know, first down. You're dropping way
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off the line of scrimmage. It's one thing to, you know,
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defend the flats and defend the boundary like that. But
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just you're watching that. You're watching Kenyatta Jackson fake a
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pass rush and then drop back and cover an area.
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to react to that area where it's, they can't make
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the window smaller. They can just close their portion of
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the zone. And, and if there's nobody over there, then
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you're not really closing anything. You're not stopping anything. It's you're,
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you're bringing in a front door to a flood and
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it's like, well, there's still water all around. Like there's
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an entire river going on and this door doesn't do
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much to stop it. And so you're watching and you're
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just like, boy, boy, that's, that's awfully frustrating. And then
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third downs, I went and charted those. So Oregon had
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395 yards of total offense. 150 of them came on
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17 third downs. So more than a third of their
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yards came on third down, which you would think, well,
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how much more? And so they averaged 8.8 yards per
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play on third downs. On first and second down, they
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averaged 4.3 yards per play. And if you take out
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the second and 13 rush for 48 yards on a touchdown,
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second and third downs, they were 3.5 yards per play,
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but also everything. Every week we talk about this defense. Well,
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if you just take out that one play.
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And, and one of my thoughts was that I think
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the USC game was maybe a false sense of accomplishment
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when like, well, if you remove those three plays and
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the Oregon just adds more and more of their eight,
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they picked up, they were, I think eight for 17
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on third downs and seven of those, conversions were explosive
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plays so that's a run of 10 or more or
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a reception of 15 or more they had plays of
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in the second quarter alone on third down 11 8
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20 and 31 they had a 20 yarder in the
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third quarter two 15 yarders in the fourth quarter a
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16 yarder in the first quarter and so much of
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this game just looked like ohio state was on a
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yo-yo that defense was Yeah.
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And it just, it feels like they constantly have guys
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doing stuff where it's like, I understand the idea behind it.
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And like, you can watch the NFL guys explain, like,
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here's the, you know, here's the thought behind dropping these
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defensive ends into coverage. And like, I get, I understand
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the philosophical idea. It just feels like you're not maximizing
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what you have people, you know, what you're asking people
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to do. You're not maximizing what they can do. And you're,
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you're putting guys in, in positions where like Quay Russo,
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like you said, as a pass rusher, he's pretty dynamic
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when you're putting him out in space and asking him
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to cover passes in the flats. You're asking Kenyatta Jackson
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to do that a lot. Like that's a, that's a
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sometimes food. That's not an everyday food like that. That's a,
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you gotta, you know, use, use sparingly. And it has been,
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it feels like that's getting used a lot. And at
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that point, it's not, you know, Oh, it's a, you know,
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what an incredible change up it's, here's the thing that
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they do and you get caught in these predictable situations.
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And that's, you know, that is a, you know, that's,
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that's a way to have some talented players and not
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be maximizing them. They they're in sack rate. They have
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like their sack rates, like 3% or some three inch
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of change percent. Like that's incredibly bad for a defense that,
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you know, this is not as talented as defense as
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they had last year, but also, it's not an untalented defense.
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Like there are players on this team who should be in,
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put in positions to do more than they've been doing.
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So yeah, that's, that I think is a, another kind
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of warning sign there on the defense.
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This is, this is one where it's not, you know,
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this is not just schematic stuff like catch the football.
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Like I know you don't play offense, but if you
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play defense, catch the football, like Jay Timmons dropped a
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walk in pick six, like a walk in pick six.
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Jalen McClain right before the fake punt had a ball
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that hit him. You know, it was not an easy play.
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He had to kind of go down to the ground
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for it, but it went through his arms, hit him
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in the chest and was incomplete. Like it's, you've got
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to catch the football. These are, I understand like if,
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if you have to like try and make a one
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handed catch, like you're not a wide receiver, totally get it.
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The ones that hit you right in the hands, the
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one that hits you right in the chest, like you gotta,
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you gotta catch the football. Like, I don't know what
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else to do. Like you, I know people are upset
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about the coaches, but the players, there are some Jimmy's
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and Joe's issues here, not just X's and O's stuff
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that you've got to, you know, this goes back to
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what Ryan Day talked about with the USC game. Like
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you got to pick up the young quarterback. Like the
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young quarterback is 0-2. It is not entirely or even
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probably mostly on the young quarterback that he is 0-2
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at this point.
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Well, and that 48-year touchdown run, Christian Allegro has the
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opportunity to tackle the running back, you know, for like
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a two yard gain and couldn't get it done. That
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Jalen McLean dropped interception, failed interception. Like, I'm not, I
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don't know if there's ever been a 38 point swing
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on one play, but like, or 35 point swing. But
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if they, if he comes up with that, how much
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does that change this game? And how much does this
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kind of just diffuse the Oregon momentum? And also by
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diffusing that momentum, eliminate any sort of concern or consternation
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or clenching that, from the Ohio state side of things.
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And so that one, that
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to further talk about the, the way that Oregon was
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just manipulating Ohio state's defense. So they get down there
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and in the last drive in the second quarter, and
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they come out with a funky play and then Ohio
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state finally calls a timeout. And it took them a
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while to call a timeout. And like I'm watching them, like,
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watching this, you know, replay. And I'm like, why did
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it take them so long to call a timeout? They
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were clearly not ready for this play. And that was
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their final timeout. And then they come out like two
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plays later with the funky formation that they eventually scored
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a touchdown on. And it's like, it's brilliant to wait
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until that point when Ohio State has no timeouts and
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they have to figure out what they're going to do
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here and how much have they prepared for this. And
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if you have not prepared for Dan Lanning's shenanigans, shenanigans, shenanigans,
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if you will, then you've not prepared. And so there
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are several times in just in the first half when,
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when Oregon is making their run. And then also in
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the third quarter where you've got linebackers pointing and it's like,
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you know, like reemphasizing pointing and not getting lined up.
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And again, great job by the Oregon offensive game plan
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in this one, because it worked relentlessly. Yeah.
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And it worked on offense for Oregon and it worked
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on special teams for Oregon. And, you know, the, it's
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kind of the same thing with the, with the fake
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punt where I had not noticed the, before the, right
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before the fake punt, the Ohio state punt where there's
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a gunner just uncovered.
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Both.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And it was like, you gotta have something there. You
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can't just be like, well, nothing we can do. Like
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Oregon had a defensive end throw pass. Like certainly, certainly
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someone on your punt unit can throw a football 15
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yards to a guy who's wide open like certainly that's
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a thing you can do and just you know like
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well no no sorry we can't do it sorry he's
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a punter it'd be dishonest to have him do anything
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other than kick and you know sorry the up guy
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is like oh no they're just there to block that's
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not and it was like Robbie Disher got spent fired
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in the span of 50 seconds of game clock because
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it was you had that which was like, boy, you
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have the opportunity to make a game changing play on
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special teams. And either he wanted to, and he had
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the opportunity and Ryan day said no, or they like, well,
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we got nothing for that. And then you have Oregon
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on the other side where, you know, we said this
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on the post game show. We said this, I said
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this during the game in group text, like, you know,
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Dan Lanning's going to do something stupid. Like, you know,
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he's going to do something stupid. Like this is his,
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this is his entire MO. And, you fall for the
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banana in the tailpipe and you've got a walk-on wide
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receiver out there covering. There was not a question. When
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Robbie Disher got fired, no one was like, but why?
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It's right there, man. You have to try. You have
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to try on special teams. And when you bring in
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a you're bringing in a special teams coordinator and you're
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paying him $ 950, 000 over the span of two years. And
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you're bringing in a transfer kicker through the portal. Everyone's like, finally,
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they're going to try on special teams. And then if
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they're trying, that's, that might be worse news than if
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they're not trying, but it just, it, it was just like, man,
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that those are, those plays back to back on special
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teams were just kind of like the, uh, the fitting
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denouement of the all too brief Robbie disher tenure at
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Ohio state. Yeah.
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I mean, that was one of my notes as well,
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just the lack of aggression. And it's, it's encapsulated by
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the fact that you don't let legend Bay return kicks
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until the second half. And the first half you've got
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Devin McEwen out there, fair catching, very returnable kicks, short kicks,
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low kicks that could be returned. And there's never any
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thought of returning a kick. It was just fair catch
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that we'll get the ball to 25. That's a cop
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out to me. And then finally it was like, well,
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we need something. So let's let legend bear return some kicks.
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And it's like, you're, you're admitting that you don't want
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to create anything. Like you just want to, let's not
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do anything with this. Let's just set this aside. This
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is the, it's not even the good China. It's just like,
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this is the stuff that you got as a wedding
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gift that just stays in the cupboard and never comes out.
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And then, you know, second, second half, it's like, okay,
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well bring something else out. But the, um, the lack
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of the gunner situation there, you're just, you're, I'm watching
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it live and seeing this and then also then rewatching
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it and seeing like Inky Jones is one of the
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gunners wide open. The other gunner there is also uncovered.
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So they've got 10 guys at the line of scrimmage
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and then the returner, of course. And you either one,
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either one of the guys you want to throw to
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throw to the guy in the field, because there's further,
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you know, for a defense for the guys to run.
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But Icky Jones is like, well, we need to– and
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he's getting pointed over to by a linebacker like, hey,
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we need somebody over here because they're overloaded. So then
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it's like you take your advantage and then you go
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and cover up a disadvantage. It's like why not exploit
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Oregon's disadvantage? And there was just never– there's never any exploitation.
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I guess that's– maybe you can talk about offense, defense,
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special teams.
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Yes.
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There's not enough exploitation of the opponent's disadvantages and certainly
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special teams, wildly unimpressive throughout all of this. But yeah,
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that's basically all I've got. I'm sure you've got more Tom,
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but a bunch of failures there.
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I have a joke about hiring Ned Flanders parents as
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the special teams coordinator. That's it now. Then we're done.
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So yeah, it's, and I don't know the answer to,
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Are there opportunities that are getting brought to the head
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coach and he's saying, no, thank you, let's not try that?
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Or is there just like, nope, we didn't notice. Like,
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we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas. And
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I genuinely do not know the answer to that question.
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But I suspect we will probably get a decent idea whether,
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you know, do things change this week? Because if all
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of a sudden they start trying, then maybe the philosophy
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on special teams has changed a little bit. And that
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would probably not be a bad thing.
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Yeah, but changing things against Northwestern at home with their
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backup quarterback is very different than daring to do something
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daring against Oregon in a big game. So we shall see.
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But I don't know. What did you guys think after?
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Certainly you've already watched it and relived it and haven't
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deleted it from whatever cloud-based DVR platform you're on. Let
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slash at Buckeye Insiders. And, of course, come find us
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over at BuckeyeInsiders.com. We're still talking about this one, talking
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about LSU, talking about– randomly talking about– no, talking about Northwestern.
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I don't know where LSU came in there. But there
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are probably conversations about LSU as well. We've got some
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random college football threads going on as well. And, of course,
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we're always talking about Michigan. That's in your bailiwick is
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our guy Tim.
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Thanks, guys.
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That will do it for me. Thank you all.
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For tuning in, and we will talk to you all later. Well,
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she threw away the motel key I wish it never
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meant We could steal a car and leave tonight.