النص الكامل لحلقة Sports

a picture of a I really love that. 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:10.400 But yeah, not sport. 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:13.120 I never that was the last time I ever played a sport. 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:14.159 What about you? 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:16.240 I played soccer as a child. 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:22.080 I was like, I was doing a lot of sports as a child, like swim team and softball. 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:22.639 Wow. 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:27.360 I never played volleyball, even though you might have thought because I'm tall, but no, basketball or basketball. 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:28.159 No, no. 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:30.319 Soccer was the one thing that I really liked. 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:34.719 And then I never made the soccer team in high school, and that really broke my heart. 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:37.360 But I was like, F this, huh? 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:42.800 And and so does it pain you to watch the World Cup or Absolutely not. 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:45.599 Do you have you been and watching anything? 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:47.120 No, I really haven't been. 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:58.319 I was, I think I watched like, oh well, you know, I went on my big road trip, and then the crazy thing is obviously, okay, the World Cup is happening in your town slash city, yeah, LA. 00:02:58.479 --> 00:02:59.759 It's happening in Houston. 00:02:59.919 --> 00:03:00.240 Yeah. 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:03.120 I went to Kansas City just on our road trip. 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:04.240 It was happening there. 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:08.000 Went to Philadelphia, also happening there. 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:11.759 I actually did get to go to the fan zone in Philly, and it was really fun. 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:12.960 I will admit. 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:21.840 I have been a little bit of a like sour sport this year because I haven't been feeling patriotic or good about the World Cup being in the US. 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:25.919 But going to the fan zone thing was fun. 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:28.560 I was like, my people, yeah, the world. 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:29.280 Yeah. 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:30.719 So who was playing? 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:32.560 I think Norway was playing. 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:35.439 You know, I love that big Norwegian guy. 00:03:35.599 --> 00:03:36.960 Everyone loves that guy. 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:39.599 He's a big old freak, and I like that. 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:42.319 I was just talking about that last night with a friend. 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:42.719 Really? 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:44.159 At dinner, yes. 00:03:44.479 --> 00:03:50.879 His face is not what I would say is like what I would be going for, but I love his spirit. 00:03:50.960 --> 00:03:52.719 I love his personality. 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:53.360 Okay. 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:57.919 He brought home a taxidermy raccoon from the US as a souvenir. 00:03:58.080 --> 00:03:59.759 Oh, that's Christine. 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:00.240 Yeah. 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:00.479 Yeah. 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:00.879 Yeah. 00:04:01.039 --> 00:04:01.280 Okay. 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:02.319 But yeah, I don't know. 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:02.879 What about you? 00:04:03.039 --> 00:04:03.840 You've been watching? 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:07.439 Um, so no, just like I'll catch the tail end of these things. 00:04:07.599 --> 00:04:13.439 And again, like maybe when it comes to the end, I'm like sort of paying attention. 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:15.599 And again, happy whoever scores. 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:16.639 I'm just like, yay. 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:18.959 I I do get riled up. 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:19.279 Yeah. 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:28.240 Like when when especially when they kick somebody or they fall down and then they like play it up, lots of melodrama up there. 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:29.120 Yeah. 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:31.279 It's it's ridiculous. 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:37.920 And I do want to say, even though I'm unpatriotic, when they're like the men's, the US men's team, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:43.120 I'm like, don't forget about the US women's team who has been winning like crazy for a long time. 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:43.759 Yeah. 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:44.560 Anyway. 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:47.360 I think this might be a good time to segue into our theme. 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:48.079 Oh, yeah. 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:48.879 Go ahead. 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:49.920 Sports. 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:51.519 Go figure. 00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:52.480 Yeah, right. 00:04:52.720 --> 00:04:59.360 Well, obviously, I wanted to talk about sports themed music because of the World Cup. 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:01.120 It only happens every four years. 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:02.399 It feels momentous. 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:10.639 This is a good opportunity for us to see where the crossover is between sports and music, but they go hand in hand, don't they? 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:11.920 I guess. 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:14.000 The answer is yes. 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:17.199 And I know that you're not one for sporting events, Christine. 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:17.759 No. 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:24.800 But there are a few things that I think of when I'm thinking of sports and music as a, you know, a little duo. 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:25.439 Tell me. 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:27.439 Baseball walk-up songs. 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:28.879 Do you know what I'm talking about? 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:30.000 I'm trying to think. 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:35.279 I I haven't been to a baseball game since like I was a kid in at Angels Stadium. 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:38.079 I I don't I don't remember if they had it there. 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:43.759 Well, I went to a baseball game recently and I got wildly drunk, uh, which was fun. 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:45.040 Oh, yeah. 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:46.959 No more about that. 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:52.959 But like when a player the players get to choose what song that they're walking up to the bat for.

00:05:53.680 --> 00:06:00.399 That's so fun because I mean, at least where I live and probably where you live too, the baseball teams are very diverse. 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:03.680 So well, they pick a lot of reggaeton, which you know I like. 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:04.319 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:05.120 But it's a fun one. 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:08.560 I feel like that could be its own episode, but maybe not with you. 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:09.759 I think you're not going to be able to do that. 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:14.079 I mean, I would enjoy going down the rabbit hole, like learning about it. 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:16.879 But yeah, I had no idea this was a thing. 00:06:17.199 --> 00:06:19.040 You would just immediately go to Fogerty. 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:19.759 I just know it. 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:20.480 Yep. 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:28.480 Okay, how about those like horrible NBA hype songs that they play during the game? 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:31.920 Like the ones, the same ones they've been playing since like what like what? 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:32.399 I don't know. 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:33.680 You know this one. 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:34.800 Y'all ready for this? 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:38.399 You know what I'm talking about? 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:40.240 I don't even know what you're talking about. 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:41.120 Wow. 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:44.000 We live in such crazy different worlds. 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:44.399 I know. 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:45.360 I'm in a bubble. 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:50.879 How about like, okay, maybe not at the NBA, but you know, back to baseball when they play the organ. 00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:51.360 Yes. 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:54.000 Charge. 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:54.160 Yeah. 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:57.519 And then in Texas, we play the stars at night. 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:00.639 And everybody sings, and it's pretty fun. 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:03.360 How about the Super Bowl halftime show? 00:07:03.439 --> 00:07:06.079 That's a pretty big music sports crossover. 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:10.639 Yeah, and that's another one where I'm like, I'm gonna sound like an ass. 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:13.920 I just, it's generally not the type of music I like. 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:15.680 Well, no, of course. 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:21.519 They're not gonna pick like freaking some Korean band to play at the Super Bowl halftime show, Christine. 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:25.199 Linalci, I finally got my record, by the way, from Luacabob. 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:25.759 Wow. 00:07:25.920 --> 00:07:28.079 Luacabop, congratulations. 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:29.360 Hire an intern. 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:31.519 You can be one of us. 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:32.800 Seriously. 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:40.639 Um, well, I don't watch the Super Bowl out of protest, but the next day I do, depending on the artist, I like to watch the performer. 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:41.120 Yep. 00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:45.439 And

these past couple of years, we've had some pretty good and controversial ones. 00:07:45.920 --> 00:07:51.759 Controversial if you're like a white nationalist or something, but like, you know, bad bunny, Kendra Clemar. 00:07:51.920 --> 00:07:52.160 Yep. 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:52.879 It's theater. 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:53.680 No, it is. 00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:57.920 And I'll I'll check out clips, but I'm not sitting around waiting for halftime. 00:07:58.240 --> 00:07:59.120 Yeah, good. 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:00.879 I know some people really are though. 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:01.360 Yeah. 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:03.199 No, I'm most people are. 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:07.439 Yeah, I would say in the USA, it's the biggest sporting event of the year. 00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:09.519 So of course they're gonna get a big performer. 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:10.160 Oh, yeah. 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:13.680 But there's one other thing that's happening right now, sports-wise. 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:16.079 Did you notice the Tour de France right now? 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:17.680 Vaguely, yes. 00:08:17.920 --> 00:08:19.120 Someone mentioned it the other day. 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:20.160 Was it me? 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:22.720 No, well, you've mentioned it a few times. 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:23.439 Aww. 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:27.439 Wait, let me visual gag. 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:34.159 As someone with a sound-only podcast, I love a visual gag. 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:39.200 It's a very cute Tour de France, polka dotted, what would you call it? 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:39.840 A bucket hat? 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:40.720 It's a bucket hat. 00:08:40.799 --> 00:08:43.200 It's it's very cute, but you've kind of like flip it up. 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:44.080 Oh, I love it. 00:08:44.240 --> 00:08:44.639 Thank you. 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:47.519 Well, the do I understand the significance of the polka dots? 00:08:47.600 --> 00:08:48.080 No, tell me. 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:48.879 Probably not. 00:08:49.440 --> 00:08:54.879 During the Tour de France, every day there are winners of certain categories. 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:57.679 So the polka dots is for the King of the Mountains. 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:02.240 And my sister was just in Barcelona during the start of the Tour de France. 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:04.799 And I knew that she would, she was like, Oh, I'm near the merch booth. 00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:06.399 And I was like, Get me a polka dot hat. 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:07.200 Yeah, oh, cool. 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:08.480 Because of the King of the Mountains. 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:09.679 So I was pretty amped. 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:13.120 When they came in the mail yesterday, so I've been wearing it around crazy. 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:14.159 Perfect timing. 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:17.440 But I'm a big fan of the Tour Go Tade. 00:09:17.759 --> 00:09:18.639 That's my guy. 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:21.039 But you must know Croftworks. 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:24.080 I do know Craftworks. 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:25.519 Epic, yes. 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:26.559 It's so good. 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:27.200 Yeah. 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:29.919 That song came out in 1983. 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:38.080 They re-released it in 2003 on their Tour de France soundtracks album, which was their first like album of new music in a really long time. 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:44.639 I don't want to get too into detail, of course, but it was kind of an unofficial Tour de France anthem. 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:50.000 And I found out that the Craft Work dudes are like super avid cyclists. 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:50.639 Oh wow. 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:51.679 Which is kind of cute. 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:53.279 And like it makes sense. 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:54.559 You think because they're German? 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:54.879 Yeah. 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:56.639 I think I guess that does make sense. 00:09:56.720 --> 00:09:56.960 Yeah. 00:09:57.120 --> 00:09:58.720 I have my US American brain. 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:02.399 But they would cycle like 200 kilometers a day, which is a lot. 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:06.080 And they would ride their bikes sometimes to the venues where they would perform. 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:06.879 That's very cool. 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:07.519 Which is very cool. 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:08.480 What about the instrument? 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:09.679 I guess they would be all set up. 00:10:09.919 --> 00:10:13.120 Someone else is gonna do that for come on, they got roadies. 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:13.600 Yeah. 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:30.960 But I am going to link to an article from Electronic Sound that talks about Croftwork performing the song Tour de France at the Tour de France for the first time in 2015 at the Grande Part, in case there's any other cycling and electronic music nerds out there. 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:31.840 Very cool. 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:33.120 Yeah, I thought so. 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:38.080 But what I really want to talk about today, of course, is the music of the World Cup. 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:39.360 Because it's quite a thing. 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:40.000 Okay. 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:40.480 Yeah. 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:45.679 Specifically, I want to talk about one element of this. 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:53.360 But have you, like in your in your time this year watching the World Cup, have you like caught any World Cup music? 00:10:53.679 --> 00:10:56.240 Oh God, I I'm afraid to talk about it. 00:10:56.320 --> 00:10:57.279 I don't want to talk about it. 00:10:57.360 --> 00:10:58.720 I don't want to give it any time. 00:10:59.039 --> 00:10:59.440 Oh no. 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:05.039 But I've seen a couple of songs, AI creations, parodies. 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:07.360 Thomas would call them sloppies. 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:07.600 Yeah. 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:09.679 It's horrible. 00:11:10.159 --> 00:11:12.799 It's without giving too much time to this. 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:16.960 One of them is

the Spanish, it's all about the Spanish player Cukuraya. 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:26.240 And it's kind of like a Rosalia sound to it, singing voice, and they're rhyming his name with paya and teya. 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:28.799 And it's just so bad. 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:32.080 And you you know, you know it's like AI. 00:11:32.159 --> 00:11:35.679 And then they have another one for France, the Mbap Mbappe. 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:37.200 Mbappe. 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:38.320 Mbappe. 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:44.480 There's yeah, there's a video where he's like this king-like figure, and it's it's all AI. 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:45.120 Ugh. 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:45.919 Sick. 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:47.200 It's really bad. 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:52.879 But no, I I mean, traditionally not listening to a lot of World Cup music. 00:11:53.519 --> 00:11:56.000 Are you in New Order a long time ago? 00:11:56.240 --> 00:12:06.000 I don't know what year it was, but they made a World Cup song specifically for England, and they had one of their English players, like freestyle rap on the track. 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:09.519 I'll I'll find it and link to it, but it was a gem. 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:11.919 We I actually sounds like it would be good, yeah. 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:12.240 Yeah. 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:13.919 I mean it's New Order, it's gotta be good. 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:14.159 Yeah. 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:23.919 I also will say, speaking of AI slop, I saw a funny meme that you know how sometimes I don't know if this happens to you, but unfortunately, I almost thought it was real. 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:41.440 It was when England was playing, um, I think it was when England was playing Argentina, and it was like a sea of Argentine fans, and then two men dressed in black, like sitting in the front row, and it was supposed to be like depeche mode watching the Argentina England game, and they were like, oh, more like depressed mode. 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:43.200 And I'm like, okay, that's funny. 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:44.399 But it was AI. 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:46.399 So no, I know you you can't laugh. 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:48.080 You can't laugh, you're not allowed. 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:51.600 Okay, back to my my pick. 00:12:51.919 --> 00:12:58.399 So I'm setting the scene, World Cup 2010, which was held in South Africa. 00:12:58.559 --> 00:12:59.600 Do you remember back then? 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:00.399 A little bit. 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:01.360 It's a long time ago. 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:02.080 Yeah, yeah. 00:13:02.399 --> 00:13:03.120 I do remember. 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:05.120 That's the year I graduated from college. 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:24.879 I was yeah, living foot loose and fancy-free, riding my bike around Austin or cruising in my Al Camino, going to the Crown and Anchor pub to watch the World Cup games, living in community with my fellow sports fans, and listening to the god-awful sounds of the Vubuzella, both on the TV and in the bars. 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:25.360 Remember? 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:26.559 Oh, yeah, horrible. 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:29.519 That was a crazy phenomenon. 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:30.879 The Vubuzella. 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:32.960 Like, I'm sure it had been existing for a long time. 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:34.799 That was like the year we all found out about it. 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:35.519 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:40.320 But I was also blasting the official song of World Cup 2010. 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:46.399 Waka Waka, this time for Africa, by Shakira, featuring Freshly Ground. 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:01.679 It's time for Africa. 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:04.799 Christine, I know you think I'm insane about 70% of the time. 00:14:04.879 --> 00:14:07.519 What did you think about my selection for this theme? 00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:09.200 It makes sense. 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:12.320 I mean, it's not my favorite. 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:26.639 But I think for you and considering the other songs, although Amadou and Miriam have done a song, they did a collab in 2006 for the Germany when it was when the World Cup was in Germany. 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:29.039 Yeah, and that was kind of cool, at least when they're singing. 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:29.519 Yeah. 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:31.039 But yeah, I don't know. 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:33.200 I mean, it's it makes sense. 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:34.960 Like I wasn't surprised. 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:35.679 Okay. 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:37.679 Are you insane otherwise? 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:40.799 Yes, but not with regard to this pick. 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:41.600 Okay, good. 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:41.840 Yeah. 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:43.120 Yeah, I like to hear that. 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:43.600 Yeah. 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:47.279 And like, I know a lot of people have strong opinions about Shakira. 00:14:47.759 --> 00:14:49.759 I do think she's very talented. 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:53.200 And I do think this song in particular slaps. 00:14:53.519 --> 00:14:53.840 Yeah. 00:14:54.240 --> 00:15:11.200 But while Shakira co-wrote the song with music producer John Hill, the reason why it's so good is because it samples and heavily uses the 1986 song Zamina Mina, Zangalewa, by Cameroonian Makosa group Golden Sounds. 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:12.720 Have you heard that song? 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:17.039 I have not heard the song, but I could imagine it based on the Shakira. 00:15:17.519 --> 00:15:17.919 Right. 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:22.559 I, of course, I'm going to link to it and I will link to the video because it's worth a watch. 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:23.679 It's very okay. 00:15:23.759 --> 00:15:32.399 It's interesting because the video is it's like a political commentary about war, and it's from people in Cameroon. 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:48.000 So, you know, you have to anticipate that it's gonna be a little bit critical, but like it's it was so popular, this song, like it swept Africa so much so

that the band ended up changing their name to Zongalewa because of this success and recognition of the hit. 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:48.799 Wow. 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:54.480 So, how then did Shakira end up essentially remaking the song for the World Cup? 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:55.200 Tell me. 00:15:55.519 --> 00:15:55.840 Good. 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:56.399 I will. 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:58.000 I have no idea. 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:08.480 So since 1990, from what I could find, every World Cup has had an official song that's usually sung in English and it's meant to appeal globally. 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:25.039 So, for example, when the World Cup was held in the US in 1994, the official song was by Daryl Hall and Sounds of Blackness called Gloryland, which it was really slow and like kind of syrupy and like not a pump-up song. 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:26.080 Okay, that's great. 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:31.440 Highly recommend watching the music video though, because it is so perfectly 94. 00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:38.960 Not that I can remember like a ton from 94, but like all the flyover shots, really grainy b-roll, like okay, insane. 00:16:39.440 --> 00:16:51.279 So then in 2002, when the World Cup was hosted in South Korea, we got a song called Boom by Anastasia, who I guess was like probably top of the charts that year. 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:51.759 I don't know. 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:53.039 Yeah, what was going on? 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:54.559 I think I she had that song. 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:55.679 Oh, what was it? 00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:57.759 Oh let's look, let's look. 00:16:58.000 --> 00:16:59.120 Not that kind. 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:00.799 Yes, not that kind. 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:05.279 Okay, that was like a big song at around that time, I think, at first. 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:12.240 Even though the song Boom, the World Cup song Boom is bad, I'm also surprised since it's 2002. 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:13.839 This is on the heels of 9-11. 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:15.680 Surprised they got away with calling it boom. 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:16.079 I know. 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:26.480 Just considering the song is so bad, but the video is hilarious because it's like a time capsule for life in 2002, complete with low-rise leather pants. 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:27.200 Oh, wow. 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:29.200 I'm gonna link to that one too, of course. 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:32.799 And there's like so many other World Cup songs that we could talk about. 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:34.720 I mean, you mentioned Amadou and Miriam. 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:35.920 Who is their collaborator? 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:36.480 Do you remember? 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:37.839 Uh, some German dude. 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:39.119 Oh, nice. 00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:41.359 I could look it up and I'll link to it. 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:42.400 Okay, good. 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:53.440 And and like Shakira's song, as you can imagine, probably just from hearing South Africa, and they pick somebody from Colombia and not a South African singer. 00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:53.680 Yep. 00:17:53.839 --> 00:17:56.400 There was a little bit of controversy, and I I want to get into that. 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:21.039 So while freshly ground the backing vocals and some you know, interstitial in the song is a South African group. 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:31.599 Shakira was slated to perform at the FIFA kickoff concert in Johannesburg's Soweto alongside the black-eyed peas, Alicia Keys, and John Legend. 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:34.160 Not a very South African lineup, right? 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:34.799 Yeah. 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:36.960 Kind of cringe when you look back on it. 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:55.200 And as such, a lot of South Africans wanted to boycott the concert, prompting FIFA to include the Soweto Gospel choir and trumpeter Hugh Masakella and Somali hip-hop star Kanan on the lineup to, I guess, make it a little bit more homegrown. 00:18:55.440 --> 00:19:04.720 But I know we've talked about Hugh Masakella in the past, but if Kanan sounds familiar to you, it's because he too had a viral World Cup song in 2010. 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:13.839 And it was such a good song that when I was thinking about this theme, I had to go back and make sure that wasn't the official World Cup song. 00:19:13.920 --> 00:19:14.079 Yeah. 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:30.079 Because in addition to Waka Waka by Shakira, my friends and I were blasting the hell out of his song Waven Flag, which I did find out was Coca-Cola's official sponsorship song for the World Cup in 2010. 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:31.519 Who even knew there was a song? 00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:32.400 I know, I know. 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:33.920 I mean, it makes sense, I guess. 00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:42.240 I went back and I watched a video, the original video for the Kanan Waven Flag song, and it actually made me cry. 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:43.440 It was really beautiful. 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:44.400 Yeah. 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:50.240 Because he's a Somali refugee, and the song is from his perspective as a young boy in Somalia. 00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:57.200 And Coca-Cola actually made him change some of the lyrics because they were about war and not soccer. 00:19:57.440 --> 00:20:02.000 But I'm gonna link to the original in the show notes just so we can give him his props. 00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:02.480 Yeah. 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:07.759 There is so much that I could say and talk about the World Cup and the music and the songs. 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:11.599 It would probably take me over an hour, but I wanna, I wanna kind of wrap it up. 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:18.799 Even though I do think it's it's a weird practice to pick artists who aren't from the country where the World Cup is being hosted. 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:24.720 I think it's an interesting opportunity to see what kind of like creativity comes from these artists. 00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:34.799 And I do actually really like that

Shakira leaned into the uh, you know, the style of African music, if not specifically South African music. 00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:38.640 They needed to, you know, they needed to get their mass appeal going in the star power. 00:20:39.039 --> 00:20:45.039 But get this Shakira's one half of the duo who recorded the official 2026 World Cup song. 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:46.640 Okay, so what one's that? 00:20:47.039 --> 00:20:48.880 Okay, I don't know the name of the song. 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:50.960 I didn't I haven't even listened to it and I'm so sorry. 00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:52.559 Are you sure it's not AI? 00:20:52.799 --> 00:21:00.480 I'm not sure it's not AI, but her her duo, her other half of the song is Nigerian singer-songwriter Burnoy. 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:01.119 Do you know him? 00:21:01.359 --> 00:21:03.119 No, I don't, but I I'm curious. 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:07.839 I feel like he's really popular in England and is like crossing over maybe a bit. 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:14.000 But in addition to having FIFA having a official song, they also have an official anthem. 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:15.759 And I don't know what the difference is. 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:17.039 That's just so weird to me. 00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:24.000 But you're going to love the 2026 anthem singers, Andrea Bocelli. 00:21:24.160 --> 00:21:29.599 Okay, David Getta, okay, EJ, and Megan the Stallion. 00:21:29.759 --> 00:21:31.839 That's like a fucking Mad Lights lineup. 00:21:32.079 --> 00:21:34.240 Is this something I need to watch, listen to? 00:21:34.559 --> 00:21:40.079 I mean, we might play with we we literally just might as well because the world's probably ending. 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:43.440 So, you know, might as well see Megan the Stallion and Andrea Bocelli. 00:21:43.519 --> 00:21:45.759 Sounds like that sounds like a party. 00:21:46.000 --> 00:21:47.920 I mean, it's not a joke. 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:49.839 I know, I know. 00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:51.440 I love it. 00:21:51.599 --> 00:21:51.920 Okay. 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:55.279 So, Christine, let's hear about your sport. 00:21:57.039 --> 00:22:02.559 Okay, so we have established I am not a Into any sort of traditional sports. 00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:07.920 So I had to ask Google, is roller skating objectively a sport? 00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:09.359 And you know what? 00:22:09.519 --> 00:22:10.720 Yes, it is. 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:14.240 And I think I even asked for your blessing. 00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:15.279 You seem to agree. 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:16.319 Look at my background. 00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:16.720 Yeah. 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:17.519 Where am I? 00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:18.880 I'm at the roller rink. 00:22:19.119 --> 00:22:20.400 She's at the roller rink. 00:22:20.559 --> 00:22:23.279 And I know you have a relationship with skating. 00:22:23.519 --> 00:22:25.440 Would you like to share a little bit about that? 00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:26.640 Oh my God, yes. 00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:28.799 I think I've

talked about it on the podcast before. 00:22:28.960 --> 00:22:36.880 But I started well, of course I've talked about roller plating, but like I would enter skating competitions at the roller rink when I was little. 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:41.440 Just uh, you know, whenever you'd go and do the free skate, like, but I was really fast. 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:45.359 I was like good, and I felt like, oh yes, it's fun. 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:50.400 But also, it just felt like really fun and liberating to be at the roller rink. 00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:54.640 And like, of course, I like rollerblades better now because it feels safer to me. 00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:55.359 Really? 00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:56.960 But yeah, just for me personally. 00:22:57.200 --> 00:23:00.079 I know some people like the quads, but it's such a blast. 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:04.559 And watching watching people roller skate is incredible. 00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:06.880 No, that I know, especially when they're good. 00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:07.519 Yes. 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:08.880 But no, it was. 00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:11.440 I mean, I had birthday parties there all the time. 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:12.880 Did you ever do the birthday party? 00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:13.359 Hell yeah. 00:23:13.599 --> 00:23:15.119 Skate heaven, Denham Springs. 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:15.440 Yep. 00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:20.400 Skate for me, it was Skateway and several birthday parties. 00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:22.640 It was just so much fun. 00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:27.119 But one thing I didn't like is when they would play a slow song. 00:23:27.279 --> 00:23:27.759 Oh yeah. 00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:41.519 And I have this memory of crazy for you, Madonna's crazy for you being played and kind of being pushed into doing a hand-holding, like skate around with this guy that I wasn't even into, like a guy, a kid. 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:42.640 Not the goalie. 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:44.880 11-year-old or whatever. 00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:45.759 No. 00:23:46.799 --> 00:23:52.400 And yeah, that was that was one of the less happy moments. 00:23:52.559 --> 00:24:02.480 But but truly what I loved about skating as a kid was you could be on your own, aside when you from when you get pushed into skating with somebody and and not have to talk. 00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:05.119 And it was acceptable not to talk. 00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:11.519 And and and then the music, it was just the music and the movement, it saved you from all the awkwardness. 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:12.960 And so on, yeah. 00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:14.400 No, I know. 00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:22.400 And and this, of course, brings me to my pick for today's theme from De La Soul's second album, De La Soul is Dead. 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:27.440 My sporty song is a roller skating jam named Saturdays. 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:36.000 Connected like a bar in the world to the fuck. 00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:37.759 Come on, everybody, get the fucking out. 00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:43.519 Come on, everybody. 00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:50.160 Saturday, Saturday, Saturday. 00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:51.440 You know the song? 00:24:51.599 --> 00:24:52.720 Were you into De La Sol? 00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:53.519 Oh, yeah. 00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:54.319 Okay, good. 00:24:54.559 --> 00:25:02.480 I mean, I've known this song probably since I was a kid because I remember being a little kid and being like, Saturday, it's a Saturday. 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:06.880 Me and my sister, I think, would like sing that one together. 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:09.039 But also, it just slaps. 00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:12.160 It's in my favorite song like Spotify and everything. 00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:13.200 Yeah, nice. 00:25:13.359 --> 00:25:18.000 And I don't know if you noticed, but I did have it in our um get up and dance playlist. 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:19.119 Oh no, I didn't notice. 00:25:19.279 --> 00:25:20.559 Yeah, I know it's a long list. 00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:22.480 Yeah, there's like 1,000 songs on there. 00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:23.680 But we know it. 00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:33.680 But so I I feel like I've always kind of known this song and of course other Delasol songs, but I didn't know much about them as a group. 00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:39.279 And so this episode gave me an opportunity to like totally deep dive. 00:25:39.599 --> 00:25:42.559 And there is so much I want to share. 00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:45.599 We have some time constraints. 00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:51.359 So um, first I want to share a couple of resources that everyone's just got to go to. 00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:52.720 This is what I used. 00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:57.119 This is everything you want to know and need to know is is within these two podcasts. 00:25:57.279 --> 00:26:04.799 First, it was Quest Love's interview with Kelvin Mercer, aka Postanus, one of the co-founders of De La Soul. 00:26:05.119 --> 00:26:12.559 And then there's a one-song episode where they deep dive Buddy, which was from their first album, Three Feet High and Rising. 00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:18.480 And yeah, just I mean, Quest Love show, the interviews is so so great. 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:21.119 I did start listening to it, but it is two hours long. 00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:22.160 It's two hours. 00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:28.799 And the thing about this two hours is it's not just two hours because you're gonna want to pause and like go listen to the songs. 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:31.200 I love that they're friends though. 00:26:31.359 --> 00:26:32.559 No, I know, it's great. 00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:35.680 I did have a hard time narrowing down what to talk about. 00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:49.440 So I'm just gonna tell you right now, I'm focusing on three things the native tongues collective, the samples they used in the song, and since this is our sports episode, a little bit about roller skating culture. 00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:51.519 But first, nice, yeah. 00:26:52.079 --> 00:27:02.559 First, for those unfamiliar with De La

Soul, they were three friends: Kelvin Mercer, Postinous, David Jolly Kerr, True Goy the Dove, and Vincent Mason, Macio. 00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:10.000 And they all met as teenagers in Long Island, New York, and eventually formed the group De La Sole in 1988. 00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:27.359 When they were about 18, the debut album in 1989, Three Feet High and Rising, was a huge hit, and they quickly became famous for that flower power imagery with all the daisies on the cover, and then the song They Hate, Me, Myself, and I. 00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:28.079 Oh no. 00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:30.160 Did you know about their disdain for their first? 00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:31.200 No, I didn't. 00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:32.240 What's that about? 00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:39.759 So I think it was one of those things where they had this album already, and then the record label's like, we need something like for the radio. 00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:41.759 We need something like we need a hit. 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:49.440 So they came up with this, Me, Myself, and I, which of course, like ended up being the thing that kind of made them famous. 00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:54.480 I mean, my brother like had the tape, and we would listen to the song quite often. 00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:55.759 Oh, that's funny. 00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:59.039 So there's actually this great clip. 00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:14.400 It's it's you can't, I don't know, maybe there's one where there's actually footage of them like on the stage, but it's audio of them saying, We hate this song, we hate this song, and doing this whole like shtick saying how much they hate it, but then playing the song. 00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:16.240 It's it's kind of cute. 00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:23.359 And and actually, like they were on NPR somewhat recently, and they do play the song, and they didn't do the hate shtick before it. 00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:33.039 So it was funny though, in in 1989, you know, this they were having to play the song a lot, and Arsenio Hall introduced them on his show as the hippies of hip-hop. 00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:44.480 And so, really, like this second album, De La Soul is Dead, is a reaction to those like flower power projections that everyone kind of just put on them because of that album cover. 00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:51.279 But also they thought they were like, you know, soft and cute and and not like rap enough, yeah or not hip-hop enough. 00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:52.079 That's cool. 00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:55.759 I mean, no, exactly different, and it they are kind of hippie. 00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:56.720 Yeah, I don't know. 00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:57.599 I mean, I like that. 00:28:57.920 --> 00:28:58.559 I do too. 00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:04.960 But on Past the Plugs, they they rap Arsenio Distus, but the crowd kept clapping. 00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:11.759 And then even on the intro track, the adult character says, Listen, you Arsenio Hall, gum having punk. 00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:16.079 And then the kids

shout back, Ooh, you let him call you Arsenio. 00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:21.359 Oh, I was wondering what that was because I was listening to that track, the intro. 00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:22.960 They say some pretty messed up. 00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:24.480 No, I know. 00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:31.920 But then I like I heard I couldn't pick out that it was Arsenio, and I was like, I was driving, so I couldn't like stop and look. 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:33.759 But I was like, What did they say? 00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:39.599 No, but I know, and that's why you gotta listen to the Quest Love interview because you get all these nuggets. 00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:48.480 So, like I listened to it and then listen to the album, and then you just keep going back and forth because like the more you listen, then you're like, Oh, that's what they were talking about. 00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:49.680 Let me go listen to it again. 00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:52.480 Yeah, so the album is crazy, it's crazy. 00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:56.640 There's so many interstitials, and like it's it's a lot of fun. 00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:02.720 Yeah, but most of the album, like it's yeah, it's funny, it's very wry, but it's pretty dark. 00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:06.400 I mean, there there's the song Millie pulled a pistol on Santa. 00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:12.480 Oh yeah, and that's about a girl being molested by her father, and then there's my brother's a bass head. 00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:15.759 But then you you got Biddies in the BK Lounge. 00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:28.640 Christina, I mean so mean is it's so funny, but like even hearing again Quest Love and Paws talking about it, like just go there for more on Biddies in the BK Lounge. 00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:28.960 Okay. 00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:34.559 And then, of course, there's my pick, Saturdays, which to me has always stood out as pure joy. 00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:40.960 And and part of that joy, I think, can be attributed to being a bunch of friends making a song together. 00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:53.680 And and that's kind of what the Native Tongues Collective was an unofficial like supergroup of like-minded East Coast hip-hop artists just coming together in the late 80s as they were coming up. 00:30:54.079 --> 00:31:04.079 And like it was in addition to De La Sole, it was a Tribe Called Quest, Jungle Brothers, Queen Latifah, Moni Love, Busta Rhymes, and Vinya Mohica. 00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:04.640 Wow. 00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:09.680 Yeah, and and and a few others, but like those are the ones that like I think of. 00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:16.079 But the clip we heard featured Vinnya singing the chorus after Postanusa's rapping. 00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:37.519 And I didn't play the beginning, but it starts with the unmistakable voice of Q-tip, and clearly he's showcasing his sense of humor, but but really like all these guys were just and and women were were very clever, smart asses, really, introspective, and like totally inspired by their parents' record collections. 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:43.599 But the native tongues redefined what hip-hop could be and what they called the Daisy Age. 00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:45.440 Did you know what this stands for? 00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:46.079 No. 00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:50.559 Okay, so the Daisy Age stands for the inner sound y'all. 00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:51.599 Love it. 00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:58.319 And that was kind of what they were doing with this like native tongues concept that they had. 00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:10.480 And I'll admit that this song might be less about roller skating as a sport and more about celebrating the culture and the sound surrounding it, which brings me to the samples. 00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:11.200 Yes. 00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:14.319 So the so many samples. 00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:18.799 Just, I mean, every song, just everything they've ever done, so many samples. 00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:28.960 The original Saturdays had eight samples, which that's reasonable, but there are at least 14 official versions, cuts, and remixes of that song. 00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:31.119 So there's a lot more samples, actually. 00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:32.079 That's crazy. 00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:33.279 It's insane. 00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:37.279 And here's my favorite part of the record version with three of those samples. 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:38.640 Hey, pretty damn idea. 00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:39.759 Like the way I'm dressed. 00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:42.799 Oh, big that new break is all we need is beat. 00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:45.759 But promote the hot book that keeps me thick. 00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:48.079 Don't need to talk, look at just walking. 00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:57.359 Oh now, sprinkler, Mr. 00:32:57.599 --> 00:32:58.000 Prinkler. 00:32:58.319 --> 00:32:59.440 With me for one, Mr. 00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:02.480 Sprinkler, I'm eating half five minutes, don't split. 00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:08.240 So we've got Sheik's Good Times, Frankie Valley's Grease, and under Trugoy's Mr. 00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:15.039 Sprinkler, the piano from Young Holt Unlimited's instrumental cover of The Doors' Light My Fire. 00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:18.640 And then, of course, you throughout you hear evil vibrations. 00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:23.039 We also know that the sampling got Dela into some trouble. 00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:23.680 Uh-oh. 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:34.240 Your guys, Turtles members, Howard Kalen and Mark Bullman, aka Flo and Eddie, who you talked about in our caught off guard episode. 00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:34.960 Yeah. 00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:41.039 So they sued over a 12-second sample of the Turtles You Showed Me. 00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:47.759 Great song, by the way, which was on Three Feet High, their interlude transmitting Live from Mars. 00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:49.599 Used beautifully. 00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.720 And they sued for 2.5 million in 1991. 00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:54.799 God, those guys were litigious. 00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:59.039 No, I remember I

talked about them suing on exactly. 00:33:59.200 --> 00:33:59.440 Yeah. 00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:01.039 No, come on. 00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:02.480 Like grow up. 00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:06.240 No, and and I mean the case settled for about 1.7 million. 00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:07.039 Yeah. 00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:09.679 And after that, it was kind of like precedent. 00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:20.000 Then every every sample had to be cleared, and it was it just became a headache for not just de la Soleil but like so many hip-hop bands, so many bands in general. 00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:31.039 It's also part of why De La Sole is dead and the rest of their early catalog weren't available on streaming until March 2023, just like figuring out all the sampling. 00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:31.599 Right. 00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:32.559 Yeah. 00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:43.360 But again, going back to the quest of interview, even the way Postanus talks about that whole time, it's just he's such a cool guy. 00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:44.880 Like to hear him talk about it. 00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:48.400 He's he's like, he never even dealt with the Turtles guys. 00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:53.119 He just was dealing with lawyers, and he said, even the lawyers weren't mean about it. 00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:56.880 Yeah, I'll let you let you like listen on your own. 00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:58.480 Yeah, I'll check it out for sure. 00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:04.800 Sadly, the streaming release came weeks after Trugoy passed away from congestive heart failure. 00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:11.920 And I don't know, at least the fans could like finally access the music more easily while mourning him. 00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:16.719 Yeah, it's you know, when someone dies, you want to access music. 00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:28.559 And I think when Day Lessel has performed since Trugoy's death, they set up a mic with a nameplate, and and they've been keeping his memory alive, giving him the honor he deserves. 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:31.519 It's very sweet. 00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:35.440 They I mentioned the tiny dust concert, it was quite lovely. 00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:38.000 So um back to the skating. 00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:39.119 Oh yeah. 00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:45.920 Um, did you know there was a national museum of roller skating in Lincoln, Nebraska? 00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:46.559 No. 00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:47.599 Okay, yeah. 00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:49.599 I need to go back on my road trip. 00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.000 Seriously, I'm sorry I didn't tell you this sooner. 00:35:52.559 --> 00:36:02.239 It was established in 1980 to provide the public with an experience that reflects on and helps understand the sport of roller skating and its history. 00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:02.639 Oh. 00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:16.400 But, Christina, what I found odd while perusing the archives was that there wasn't much, at least on the website, about the influence of black culture and the civil rights movement on roller skating. 00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:22.960 And I think most people would agree that that's really when it transcended being a sport and became an art form. 00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:25.920 Yeah, like that's a huge miss on their part. 00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:30.079 And again, the website, but the website is how you represent yourself. 00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:30.800 So I don't know. 00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:43.920 But yeah, black roller skating culture didn't start or end with the 70s or 80s, like well into the 2000s, skating rinks were essential black community spaces where DJs broke music, regional dance styles developed. 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:48.559 I mean, there's a video about like all the different types of styles there are from cities. 00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:54.480 I mean, funk, disco, RB, and eventually hip-hop were all like central to this skating experience. 00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:56.400 Did you see straight out of Compton? 00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:57.280 Uh, the movie? 00:36:57.519 --> 00:36:58.480 Yeah, the movie, sorry. 00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.519 Yeah, so there's they there's a scene in there. 00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:07.039 Well, you know, I used to live not in Compton, but I lived in Venice near the Venice City Park. 00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:09.599 And I used to love watching people skate there. 00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:10.239 Yeah, exactly. 00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:14.960 And even just on the boardwalk, there was a lot of great skating down in Venice Beach. 00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:28.320 Yeah, and I think after the pandemic, especially a lot of people like really gravitated to that the need of being outside and community, also because roller winks across the nation have been closing. 00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:35.679 It's just like they're so expensive to operate, and insurance costs are ridiculous in LA. 00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:41.119 The legendary world on wheels closed in 2013 because of bankruptcy. 00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:47.199 But the rapper and activist Nipsey Hustle's investment helped reopen it in 2017. 00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:50.719 But then it was shut down again in 2020. 00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:57.360 And that rank and a few others are featured in the 2018 HBO documentary United Skates. 00:37:57.440 --> 00:37:57.920 Have you seen it? 00:37:58.000 --> 00:37:59.119 Oh shit, no, I gotta watch it. 00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:00.159 Oh, you gotta watch it. 00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:00.800 It's so good. 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:04.960 Yeah, yes, that will have a link to the website. 00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:10.800 But yeah, as I was saying, during the pandemic, a lot of people like kind of gravitated to skating again. 00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:14.400 People that hadn't, or people that maybe hadn't done it in a while. 00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:19.360 And I think the the Venice scene, pretty vibrant since the 70s. 00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:23.599 It grew because the people need to be outside and be a part of something. 00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:27.119 And then I think you're going to New York soon,

am I right? 00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:27.920 Oh, yeah. 00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:29.039 Okay, good. 00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:34.239 So you have to go to see the Central Park dance skaters. 00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:34.880 Sweet. 00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:35.199 Yeah. 00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:36.559 Do they do it every day? 00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:44.079 It's sad I believe it's Saturdays, like late afternoon, 2 45-ish, like into the early evening. 00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:51.280 But they've been doing this since the 80s and amazing to watch, possibly participate in. 00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:53.679 And they've even got nonprofit status. 00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:54.159 Nice. 00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:54.559 Yeah. 00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:55.599 That's so cool. 00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:57.599 Um, but yeah, please go. 00:38:57.760 --> 00:38:58.719 Please take video. 00:38:58.880 --> 00:38:59.039 Okay. 00:38:59.119 --> 00:38:59.599 Please share. 00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:03.840 I'm not gonna be there on a Saturday, but I'm just gonna go to where they go and see if anybody's there. 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:04.159 Yeah. 00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:05.920 You know, why not skate every day? 00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:06.800 Exactly. 00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:14.639 But okay, so there's just so much to share about roller skating, de la Sol, the samples, native tongues. 00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:18.320 But that's why I have a ton of resources in our show notes. 00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:20.239 Like more than ever. 00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:27.039 And I hope everyone at least checks out the Quest Love interview because that is a sport in itself. 00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:31.360 You will be sweating because you will just like, what's this mean? 00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:32.000 What does this mean? 00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:33.119 Oh, I gotta listen to this song. 00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:38.719 I gotta like, I I'm seriously like even talking about it, breaking a sweat. 00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:40.400 I already have so many questions. 00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:42.320 Like, what are those names? 00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:44.639 Oh, what are wait, what are the true boy? 00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:46.000 Is that the older backwards? 00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:48.159 Yes, right, Christina. 00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:54.400 Um, yes, and the dove was because he was like, yeah, like kind of pee all peace and love. 00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:55.280 Cute, cute. 00:39:55.519 --> 00:40:01.440 Pastanus is that's a really cool one, but they talk about it in the Quest Love interview. 00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:11.360 But it's basically he at one point wanted to call De la Sole sop sound because his mom used to say, like, you sop up all the juices with the bread. 00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:16.079 And so they were he was thinking that like that's what we are doing with music. 00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:20.400 And so sop sound backwards is pasta noose. 00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:21.199 Oh, okay. 00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:24.960 I was wondering because I caught sound, but I was like, what the hell is sop? 00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:29.360 Yeah, so um, and then macio, that's easy, mason. 00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:35.199 Yeah, but yeah, little tidbits like that, you'll get more details from past noose himself. 00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:36.000 Really good. 00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:41.519 Christian over-engaged in a theme I didn't think you'd like. 00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:42.320 So thank you. 00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:45.440 Thank you for allowing me to go here. 00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:53.280 Um, now that we've kind of talked about our sports songs, I was wondering if I could share a little bit of unsolicited advice. 00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:54.320 I would love it. 00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:55.280 Good. 00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:57.119 Foster a pet. 00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:04.639 Not to get on my soapbox, but fostering pets saves animals' lives and make human lives better. 00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:05.760 Don't believe me? 00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:11.280 Check out one of the hundreds of videos by the Dodo or the countless other dog and cat rescues out there. 00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:12.800 I'll be happy to share a link. 00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:16.960 I love that you do this, Christina, but I'm always like concerned. 00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:18.400 Do you get attached? 00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:24.320 It's so sad to imagine, like you build up this rapport with an animal and then you have to say goodbye. 00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:27.840 Faltering might seem sad, and you know me. 00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:29.440 I'm a weepy person. 00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:31.679 Yeah, I get attached to things. 00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:38.079 But the thing is, you're saving a pup or a cat's life and giving them another shot at happiness. 00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:43.599 And it's also fun to play with a new little critter all the time and then send them off to their perfect new home. 00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:47.280 I think critter might be an unsettling word for some people. 00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:55.440 But if the whole concept is difficult for you as it is for me to foster an animal, there's there's always donations. 00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:57.039 Amen to that. 00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:00.960 Rescues need a lot of money to make their work possible. 00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:09.760 But if you want to play with puppies, kitties, elderly dogs and cats, or even some animal that's more exotic, perhaps a rabbit, foster. 00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:12.079 You'll save a life and make yours more fun. 00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:15.199 Or at the very least, more interesting. 00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:16.559 Advice over. 00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:24.159 I'm already hot. 00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:26.880 Thanks for listening to Stereothematica. 00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:31.280 If you like what you're hearing, please consider a review, a rating, or sharing with a friend. 00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:37.840 And follow us on Instagram at Stereothematica, where you can share your favorite sports songs. 00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:42.239 And go to our Infinite Spotify playlist, which is linked in our show notes. 00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:46.800 And visit stereothematica.com for more fun.