النص الكامل لحلقة Why Your Nervous System Work Isn't Working | Taylor Cope

trauma is. Why? Because I was very much like very put my head down, just keep doing going, everything is fine. So that like opened up my mind where I was like, okay, maybe I do need to like address what happened. I was 13 by the way when my dad passed away. so then after I did that certification, I started like looking into trauma and stuff, and then I came across this trauma healing certification, and that's how I got into somatic resolution. and trauma resolution. yeah, it just kinda fell into my lap and now I'm obsessed with it. It's changed my whole entire life. And I just want everybody to be aware of it. MaKenzie: I feel like our stories are very, very similar. You just went through yours at a younger age than me. but and mine is more about like human design and nervous system working. But how did your did your dad pass like suddenly then or did he Taylor: Yeah, so he unalived himself. so it was like sudden, unexpected, all and you know, like the unaliving was like an extra layer of like things, and it was just like too much for me or my system to handle at like 13. so I always say like survival mode is a is a good thing sometimes, right? MaKenzie: Yeah. Taylor: Like a hundred percent. It's just like I got stuck there for way too long because I didn't know. How to process it. So like at the time I'm like, thank God, like we have these mechanisms, these survival mechanisms. But then you get to a point where it's like, okay, like I can't live like this and this is not actually enjoyable. And it's really just because I didn't know how to process what happened and it doesn't just go away. Like you have to learn how to process it in order to like move on and heal and, you know, have a fulfilling life, really. MaKenzie: Yeah. No, I I couldn't agree with you more. When my dad passed, I went and did like the whole thirty. right afterwards. I like quit my job from seven years that I like absolutely love, but like went on to like a job that like I dreamed of. So like it all worked out. but with the whole thirty, like I started getting so obsessed with like the ingredients, you know, I thought like and I started getting where like everything was like killing me, I feel like, and my kids. Like I'm like, I'm not gonna be able to eat anything. Like it was getting to the point of like where craziness was coming. And I was like, I have to draw a line or I'm never going to be able to enjoy my life if I'm always in that like scarcity mode that like everything that I'm putting in my body is going to kill me. so I had this same like awakening and that is where I found like human design to help me kind of like blueprint my life into that I had some trauma that I was not also processing too. So it's just crazy that like similar similar stories. And also I started this off in fitness coaching. so gut health specialists, like what is what I was mainly teaching. because my dad, he passed by suicide and I had, you know, the connection of the gut and the brain. And you know, my whole goal was like, is there something that like he could have done to prevent this, to have a healthy mind. and what I've realized is yes, but obviously everything happens for a reason that like that had to happen for me to go down this route. so anyways, what I'm saying is like this is a real thing. and I'm so happy that we're gonna talk more in depth about this. So most of the wellness, you know, world is teaching women how to regulate their nervous system. So the breath work, the nervous, the vagus nerve tools. the ice water on the face, you know, the the somatic practices, but you're teaching something that seems like it's completely different. So can you walk us through what the difference is between regulating and resolving? Taylor: Mm-hmm. Yeah, so I always say, like, you know, love that regulation has become like mainstream and you know, it's out there. And we can actually get stuck in the regulating loop. I I always say, like, if you have to do a practice every day to keep yourself regulated, you're not actually like healing, you're just managing the dysregulation. I don't I don't do practices every day. I don't do regulation practices every day. And and this is where it's like there's layers to this because in the beginning I I had to. Like when you're so dysregulated, in the beginning I had to. These practices are very good in the beginning to get get some sense of safety, kit to get some sense of regulation. But now I don't have to do those practices because there's a deeper process of resolving. So a lot of times when we get into dysregulation, it's a stuck-on survival response, it's a stuck-on fight or flight, stuck-on freeze or fawn, right? We get we're getting stuck there. And it's just because we haven't learned how to complete. It's called complete the incomplete nervous system response. So what I see a lot of people do is You know, a big one is usually anxiety, which is like the flight response in the nervous system, right? So they'll have anxiety and then they'll do some type of regulation, EFT tapping, or shaking out their body, or breath work, or like whatever it is. And then they'll feel good for like an hour or the evening or whatever. And then they wake up the next day and they're full of anxiety. And then they do it again. And I'm like, you're just, you're just pushing it down for a little bit to manage how you're feeling when you could actually just complete that flight response so it doesn't keep coming on and you keep looping through it. MaKenzie: Okay. What is that process? Taylor: I know this is like where it's really it's really hard because it's not like a it's not MaKenzie: Love it. Taylor: like a it's not like a one, two, three, four, five, six, seven step, right? so a simple way to do this is first one becoming aware of the sensation that is happening in your body. Okay, so it's say it's anxiety. Cool, love that. Where is that happening at in your body? Where do you feel it at in your body? Is it

your chest? Is it your jaw? Is it your hands? Like becoming aware of like, okay, and then what like what is the sensation? Does my chest get tight? Does my heart start to race? Like really becoming in tune with what our nervous system is communicating to us. Because our nervous system communicates to us through sensation and through feelings, which is why people a lot of people get stuck in talk therapy because we're not aware of like the sensations that are happening in our body. So once you become aware of where Well, I need to back up. The first step is actually we need to create a lot of resource and safety first in order to complete the response. So if you just go straight into and try to complete it, that can actually be more dysregulating. So there's a process of really bringing a lot of safety and resource in. That's the first thing that I do with any clients. Like I always say you have to have resource and safety to heal. If not, it's just not gonna happen. So then we become aware, we bring in safety, we bring in resource, and then we become aware of like the sensation, where's it at in my body? How does it feel? And then just a simple question, and this takes time, but like a simple question to ask yourself is if my body could do one thing right now, when I feel this this tightness in my chest, if my body could do one thing right now, what would it be? Does it want to run away? Does it want to hide? Does it wanna curl up in a ball and shut down? Right? Our nervous system is very primal, right? So it's fight or fight. Does it want to fight? Right, so that so that so like we wanna give our body the ability to run away. And that doesn't mean we have to get up and actually run away. There's actually like somatic things that I take my clients through that mimic getting up or running away. Does my body actually wanna fight? Right? Are there ways that I can actually allow my body to fight in some way, in a healthy way, that doesn't hurt me or somebody else? Freeze is a little bit different. We have to thaw that out a little bit. There's like a thawing process. So that's a little bit slower of a process. but the simplest thing is like the thing is is we never allowed our body to do what it needed to do, which is why we keep getting stuck in that loop. So it's like, what what does my body want to do with this sensation? Does it want to scream? Does it want to yell? Does it want to hide? Does it wanna wanna run wanna run to want to run away? And then there's somatic practices that we can do that mimic that gives your body the opportunity to complete what it never got to complete. MaKenzie: So interesting. So are you saying that is like where you find the safety then is like through those options of either running away and like actually listening to what your body is wanting? Taylor: Yeah, so that part is more completing the process that never got to complete. Safety is like there's like stabilization tools that we can do, like looking around in your area. there grounding is a good one for like safety, co regulation, depending on the person, but co regulation is also good to bring in safety. But when you complete The response your body naturally comes back into regulation without you trying to force yourself into regulation. MaKenzie: like w how long is this process? Taylor: Yeah, okay, so this is such a good question. And honestly, it just really, really depends on the person, how much work they've done before doing this, where they're at in their healing journey. but the more that you do it, the faster. So, like, okay, you know, I I don't do regulation practices daily. That doesn't mean I don't get dysregulated. Like, we're humans. It's normal to like go into regulation and out of it, out of regulation, but Like whenever I'm feeling any type of way, I just take myself through this process, and nine times out of the ten, it takes me like five to ten minutes, and then I'm good to go. But that was not the case. When I first got into this, it was so uncomfortable because a lot of like the thing is, is when we have been disconnected, when we have suppressed our emotions, when we have suppressed our nervous system responses. It is super uncomfortable to come into contact with how your body is actually feeling. So it was a very slow process for me at first because I was like, what? I don't I don't want to feel my emotions. What are you talking about? I've suppressed them for 10 years. I don't want to do this. I don't want to feel this anxiety. Right. It's like now I'm like, an emotion comes up, a nervous system. I'm gonna feel through this because I know that's the fastest way to get on the other side of it. MaKenzie: So good. Yes. And also Taylor's been doing this work for you said five years, six years. Taylor: Yeah, five to six, yeah. MaKenzie: And that's what like I feel like instant gratification is like such a bad thing in our society right now. and I always like to highlight, like, you know, you didn't come to this knowing yesterday, you know, you you've been doing this for a very long time and I agree with you of like nervous system regulation. yes, the modalities of you know EFT of breath work, like they are how you open the front door to awareness. And I think that's Taylor: Yes. MaKenzie: like the biggest thing know? so I feel like I'm kind of like in that like next level. So it's just crazy how like people come into your life, you know, for, you know, certain reasonings. And I feel like I needed to hear this for myself today of, you know, I'm getting a deeper layer of, you know, nervous system work. And so this makes complete sense. And I feel like one thing that I've starting to realize is the society that we live in and especially for women, like it's the avoidance of feeling those emotions. Do Taylor: Yes. MaKenzie: you feel like that? Taylor: Yeah, I mean that was me I mean I grew up a gymnast, like a very serious gymnast. I was gonna do it in college, like, you know, the

whole put your head down and just keep going. Like, you know, and like I always say it's so funny because I'm like, if you would have told me that I get paid to make people cry, I would have been like, There's no way. Like I was like that girl that was like, I don't have feelings, crying is weak, I don't have time for this, like da da da, and now I'm like I will cry because I know I will feel better within ten minutes. MaKenzie: Yeah. Like I feel like I've fallen back in love with myself again and like everything Taylor: Yes. MaKenzie: up about it, you know. and I think that's part of the process too, is like whenever you do face those emotions or process them or, you know, resolution, you've you get a layer deeper into loving yourself more because you know that you have the control to get past this and you don't have to rely on, you know, a modality or medicine or people. Like it it's all within. Taylor: Yeah, and even with that, like just like from a nervous system sense, like, you know, loving yourself. So a simple way to look at it is you're either in disconnection, protection, or connection. So like disconnection is like freeze and fawn, right? Like you're freeze and fawn. fight and flight is like protection. Like I'm ready to protect myself and be on guard. And those are like the survival responses people get stuck in. Right. So once you start coming out of that and you come into regulation, which is connection, that's why you find more love for yourself because you are in a state of connection. When you're in these other states, it's very hard to have the capacity to find love for yourself because you're so concerned with surviving, surviving, and protecting yourself. Right. Like these are very primal responses. So if you're out in the wilderness and you're actually in danger, you don't have the capacity to love yourself. Your body's like, we need to quote unquote protect ourselves. We need to, you know, do whatever we need to do. The our nervous systems are just still doing that. We're just not actually in an actual threatening situation. Right. So when you come out of that, you come into a state of connection. So then you have capacity to have love and grace and whatever for yourself and other people. MaKenzie: Yeah. So amazing. What is a somatic practice? I just wanna kinda get a glimpse into you know, your your teachings of like if you do wanna run away, like what what is a somatic practice for that type of Taylor: Yeah, so an easy one for that is is if if you're sitting in a chair and you like put your you put your feet flat on the chair, lean forward kind of like you're gonna get up to run, and then really press through, like push down with your right leg, release, and then push down with your left leg, and then like alternating back and forth and really like engaging those muscles and pushing down. Again, if you were going to go run, those muscles were going to be engaged. We don't have to actually get up and run. I mean you can if

you want to, but like the more present the so the whole point of resolution is is can I stay present and in my body while I do this? Because a lot of times what happens is is it gets taken over and we're not actually in our body when this is happening. You have to be, you have to have the capacity to stay in your body and stay present for the resolution to actually happen. MaKenzie: Yeah, that's the hard part though. Taylor: Yes, yes. MaKenzie: That's the hardest part. Taylor: Which is why it's like a process, like you know, you were saying, I forget what you said earlier, but I have a c I've had clients where like the first like three sessions, they're like, I don't know about this. This is like kind of weird. Like, well, what are we doing? I'm like, listen, I I get it. I totally get it. Just stay with me. And then once we get around like month six, they're like, mmm, okay, I it. I get it now. MaKenzie: Yeah. Six months is like a good threshold. Like Taylor: Yes. MaKenzie: you do have to try something out for like way longer periods of time. Taylor: Yeah. I mean we were both into fitness. That would be like somebody working out for three weeks and then being like, this isn't working and then stopping, right? It's the same thing. Like you can't it it's a process and you have to be consistent with it in order for it to really work. MaKenzie: So you lost your dad and like you Taylor: Yes. MaKenzie: said, like you were living in, you know, survival mode for, you know, over ten years. I lost my dad four years ago. So I know this fire very intimately. So survival mode after a loss, you know, like that is it's not just grief. Like it's it's a full nervous system rewiring and that most therapists and and coaches, healers like do not even know how to to meet that, I feel like, unless you've you've lived it. so from the inside of those, you know, 10 years, what were you actually living with that no one around you could see? Taylor: that is such a good question. I mean, like, I was so young. so it's like so hard, but like I just like wasn't okay. Like, even I thought I was, right? Like, you know, like I just like like I thought I was. And I don't the adults probably were probably like I do know some of them were like worried because I like didn't cry. I like cried when I found out and then I cried at his funeral and that was it. So I'm sure like You know, some adults were probably like, hmm, this isn't normal. But I like was functioning. Like I was functioning. I graduated valedictorian. I was a very good gymnast. You know, like I was totally functioning. I also think a lot of that was a trauma response. Like, let me just focus on anything else, right? Like all of the I always say like high achieving can be a trauma response. It's fine, right? Yeah, MaKenzie: yes, laughed. Taylor: right. So it's like, This is also a prime example of like functional freeze where like you are functioning, but you're not really like present or alive. I don't know, like so a good example of this is is like, you know, high school, college are supposed to be like your fun years, like whatever. I had zero capacity for that. I took everything so seriously. I would get so annoyed. I like can remember I was a senior in high school and my like two best friends were like playing around and like messing around and I was like so annoyed. I was like, what are you doing? Like this is like so I like a MaKenzie: You know what I mean? Like Taylor: hundred percent. Like I have more fun now at 32 than I ever did in high school and college. Yes. Yeah. MaKenzie: Well, I'd love that for you now, but obviously, yes. Not totally fair, but at least you're having fun now. So Taylor: Yes. Yeah. but yeah, I always say like if your capacity for like enjoyment or fun or if you just take everything so seriously, that's usually like a good sign of like some type of dysregulation or like suppressing your emotions. I always say like a good example of this is is like Okay, so I lived very like meh. That's like the best way I can explain it. Like I wasn't sad, I wasn't angry, I wasn't happy, I was just meh. But when you can learn to feel your grief and your anger and your frustration, like the more I learned to feel the quote unquote lower emotions, the more capacity I had for fun and enjoyment and excitement and creativity. Like it's duality. Like the more capacity you have for down here, the more capacity you have for up here as well. MaKenzie: Okay. I feel like that's that's a wrap of the podcast. Taylor: You're like, break, we're done. MaKenzie: That was cool. That I mean, that is such a good analogy of the the the work. at what moment did you realize like you were not even processing this and like like what was your first step to the movement of this? Taylor: Hmm, when what when I don't know. I'm gonna be honest. Like, I feel like it was such an unraveling. I don't think there was like one moment where I was like, I didn't process this. I think it was just like as I started to learn things, I was like, mmm, this probably wasn't healthy. So there wasn't really a a moment. It was just like when I got into self-development, when I got into healing, and I started to learn all of these things. And honestly, like at first, I didn't even address that at first. I kind of was more into like inner child healing and like, you know, my parents were very dysfunctional. Like, I kind of went that route first. Like, I still again it was like I didn't have enough resource or capacity to even acknowledge that yet. So once my capacity grew, then I was like, mm, yeah, I probably did not I have not processed this. is it fun? No. I mean, I'll be honest. Like I'm honest with my clients. I'm like, sometimes this process is not fun, but it is like the best thing that you could ever do for yourself. MaKenzie: I say that this is this process like I feel like since my dad died I've been, you know, slowly in different layers, but the last year has been the hardest year of

my life. Like it it's even harder than when my dad passed. Taylor: Yeah, I mean to me, you said it's been four years. MaKenzie: Yeah. Taylor: I mean, to me, you're s like the first few years you're still in shock. Like there's a whole process of shock. So like you have probably come out of the shock process. And now you're like, now I have to really like process this and grieve. And like there's such a period of shock. And coming out of the shock is actually worse than the actual shock. Yeah. MaKenzie: You know what? Yeah, actually this happened yesterday. And I don't know if you've ever done this, but it it really kind of helped resolve my just understanding of my dad. Like I would say like he he was actually he's a projector. I pulled his human design for the first time ever yesterday. Taylor: cool. MaKenzie: And it really just put like a lot of like the puzzle pieces together and just honestly I feel like I know my dad better now after reading his human design than I ever have. And it just like gave me a different light, you know, for him instead of remembering like, you know, the bad things or like how we went, you know, it just so I I feel like that was another way that human design has just like made my life better Taylor: Mm. MaKenzie: is like through reading my dad's, you know, story through those lens. So Taylor: Yeah. Yeah. I just like, you know, give so much credit to like the older generations, but I just don't feel like they had the ability to be like who they really are. Like there was so much c societal conditioning, you know, like all of the things and like they were probably like most of them were really disconnected from who they were and just not living their design, which is really hard. Like it takes a lot of effort to suppress. who you are like it takes way more effort to do that than to like be who you actually are. So I don't know, I there the older generations I'm just like that had to have been a really hard life to like not be who you fully really are. MaKenzie: Yeah, I I agree completely. What would you want to say to the woman like listening today who is like silently like still there years after you know her loss? Taylor: Yeah, I wanna say like one, that's normal. Like grieving is a process. Like it is such a process. and two, it doesn't have to be like this. like I, you know, again, everything happens for a reason, but I didn't have to wait ten to twelve years to like process it to actually feel good and I don't know, not be so disconnected and numb. So, like, it won't be like this forever. Healing is possible and it is okay. Like it's such a process. MaKenzie: And it's so different for everybody. I have I I don't know if you have siblings, but watching my siblings, you know, go through their grieving process, it's completely different than mine. Taylor: It is completely different, and we all have such different relationships with our parents, which makes it different. Mm-hmm. MaKenzie: Yes. So so true. okay, well I

want to make sure that we get to this last question because I feel Taylor: Okay. MaKenzie: like this is one of the I feel like top area that women really want to address is like their bodies, their, you know, their wellness. So you have exercise science and personal training on top of your somatic work. So which means that you've watched the wellness world sell women on protocol after protocol while women are quietly using food, exercise wellness as a sophisti sophisticated like coping mechanisms for a dysregulated system that no diet plan will ever touch. So can you walk us through like what is actually happening in a woman's nervous system when she becomes obsessed with cleany being over exercising or like that perfect routine. Taylor: Yeah, to me it is such a such a way to avoid what's actually happening inside. It's so much easier to be obsessed with something externally, put all of our attention there. That was me. Again, it's like this like I can't handle how I'm feeling within my body. So I need to go out there and keep myself so distracted and so obsessed that I don't even have the ability to feel what is happening. yeah. MaKenzie: said so eloquently. Taylor: Yeah, yeah. and I know it because I've lived it. I'm a I'm a one-three in human design, so I like study, study, and I know it cause I've lived it. so like, yeah, and it's like I don't know, finding a healthy balance was hard for me at first because I to this a lot of time I swung way over here for a while where I was like Cause I was so like I was like you. There was like a two-year period where I was vegan. I didn't have gluten. I didn't have dairy. I didn't have me. Like literally I was eating like a rabbit. Like and now I'm like, I could never. Like, I don't even know how I survived. That's why I hit burnout, honestly, which is a whole different story. But like, I'm like, I don't even know how I s I could never now. Ever. but I think that is such a prime example of like What we are capable of when our body is stuck in survival. My body is not stuck in survival anymore. So that's why I could never in a million years do that again. But when we are in surviv like again, it's like so laser focused, right? Again, if we're out in the wilderness and we're actually in a survival situation, we just reorient that towards being obsessed with exercise and food. And it's just like crazy what we are capable of when we are in survival. MaKenzie: I know I always think like at one point, actually it's almost a year since I took a leave of absence from my corporate job. and The month of July last year, I was a talent acquisition manager. I had my my fitness business. I have three kids. My youngest was had severe eczema. He had hand, foot, and mouth. I had to pull him from daycare. And they told me he couldn't come back without a doctor's no, even though that he was no longer, it was like three days afterwards. and I said, Well, he's not gonna be coming back. And so my husband and I were watching him and also working our full-time jobs and doing everything else. And I'm like, there is absolutely no way that I could ever do that. Like I feel like you have to do that too. Like how did you even function at that caliber? You know what I mean? Taylor: I I I don't I think about this all of the time where I'm like, I don't know. but I think again, it's like So I think about like single moms or something like that MaKenzie: Yeah. Taylor: where where I'm like, thank God for survival mode. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, there's a time and a place for it where I'm like like my mom became a single mom when I was 13 and my brother was eight. I still look at her and I'm like, how are I don't know how you're still going. What are you what it what in the actual I don't know what's happening. But I'm I'm also like, thank God for survival mode because there is absolute like that's the only way that you can get through something like that is because of survival mode. And again, it's like, thank you. Good for that time and place. And then there gets to a point where it's like, it's okay. We don't have to be in survival mode anymore. Like and we can res like you can enjoy life now, right? So it's like, how? I don't know. But that's what survival mode is. When you look back and you're like, I literally have no idea. I can never, like you said, live up to that caliber again. It's just like really crazy what our body our nervous system can do when it's in survival mode. MaKenzie: I love that you're like transitioning the outlook of survival mode, like as like a positive thing. Like that is just refreshing to to be honest with you. I I absolutely love that. Taylor: Yeah, it is a positive thing. It just becomes not enjoyable when it's been too long. MaKenzie: Yes, totally. So then for your background in the wellness industry, when it comes to like whenever you start doing this work, you know, actually resolving What's the physical aspects of it? Because I mean, like I probably know what you're going to say, but I wanna hear from your point of view. Like what have you seen from your clients that comes like physically what happens? Because a lot of this is internal work, you know what I mean? Taylor: Yeah, so like again, I've lived through I feel like lifetime. So just f like I went through burnout, chronic fatigue, chronic pain, right? And like it was all it was all from my nervous system from living in cer So let's look at it this way. I was in fight or flight or functional freeze really for like such a long time that my body got to a point of like we can't do this anymore. Like we can't keep up with this. So then it usually goes down into freeze. And a lot of things that can come up with freeze is depression, chronic pain, chronic illness, chronic fatigue. so then that and and I I did all of the diets and all of the supplement I mean everything. I did everything and I was like, my body hurts so bad. I am so exhausted. Like I like I just don't

understand. And it's because I was I was fighting my own nervous system. When I got to burnout and chronic pain and chronic fatigue, my body was like, You need to rest. And that was hard for me. I mean, I live lived go, go, go my whole life. And, you know, my worth was wrapped up in what I could do and produce and all of the things. So, like, and I fought it for so long where I was like, Well, if I just take this supplement or if I just do this thing, then it I'll be better. But I had to get to a place where I had to allow myself to rest. For a very, very long time, an uncomfortable amount of time for the chronic pain to start to go away and the chronic fatigue. And what I find so fascinating, you'll love this is that so when I got chronic pain, I would go to bed at night, and it felt like there was a hundred pound weights on each of my legs, like it was so crazy. I was like, I don't understand anytime. It it's not there anymore. But randomly anytime I start to feel pain in my quads, it's because I have t I'm suppressing something. And then once I go and feel my emotions, it goes away. MaKenzie: So cool that you're so aware of it. And that's where like I agree. I also had to rest and be uncomfortable with it for it was six months at least minimum. where I was like, Okay, like let's get this show on the road. But I also knew like what the work, you know, that I needed it. I don't know how people are living in chronic pain. Like I had strep throat probably like two months ago. And I try not to go to the doctor because I like to do things like more holistically. Taylor: Mm-hmm. MaKenzie: but then I finally had a resource myself. But I just remember like living in that pain every single day. And I'm like, I don't know how people do it. And like I just want to say, like, that's that is not normal. And there is another side to it. Like it Taylor: Mm-hmm. MaKenzie: I feel like we've just like accepted as a society again that like everybody's in pain and everybody has depression and everybody has anxiety and everybody has a chronic illness. And I'm like, no, this is not how we're supposed to live. Taylor: Mm mm. No. MaKenzie: Not supposed to look like appointment to appointment. Like It's like you're supposed to laugh and you're supposed to like I feel like I have been seeing a Reiki specialist and she she always is reminding me like act like a child. Like she told me to go dance in the rain one time and like you Taylor: Yes. MaKenzie: know color and like I I used to love to do like like make fashion like designs whenever I was younger and she's like do that again and I'm like though like that it sounds silly, I know it does, Taylor: Mm-hmm. MaKenzie: but it truly is the work. Taylor: It is the work, and it's like it's so unfortunate, but like I just want to like validate everybody because our society is not set up for good nervous system regulation. Like it really is working against us, honestly, which is super like I mean, just for like all of the bad

ingredients in our food, you know, like all of that piles on and adds to the stress of our nervous system and having to produce the same amount every day. Like it's the whole thing, right? Like it's just like It's so unfortunate, but our society is not built for us to have regulated healthy nervous systems. MaKenzie: Yeah. But I also think that you can leverage our society though to to your advantage. Like AI, Taylor: Yes. Yes. Yes. MaKenzie: like I think that there's ways that it can help you regulate your nervous system. And like for like in business, I'm sure you can attest to that. Like some of the administrative task or like mom Taylor: Yes. Yep. MaKenzie: life, like it plans my meal plans every week. It Taylor: Yeah. MaKenzie: plans my grocery list. It plans my kids like summer themes, you know, for you know, it does take some of that out of your capacity. Taylor: Yes. MaKenzie: so I I don't wanna always just say everything is bad, but you have Taylor: Yeah, yes, no, yeah. MaKenzie: to see the I guess, I don't know, nicks and crannies and finding ways to leverage it though. Taylor: Yeah, a hundred percent. Yeah, for sure. There's definitely ways I'm not like this isn't like poo-poo, like we're doomed forever, obviously. Right? yes. MaKenzie: No, I know that that's not where you were going, but I just wanted to bring awareness that like it's not all all bad and it's also your mindset too, like how you Taylor: A hundred percent. Mm-hmm. MaKenzie: perceive it. But I think being just again, Taylor and I, like aware. And that's Taylor: Yeah. Mm-hmm. MaKenzie: where like I tell people, you know, some really crazy stuff sometimes. And it's the truth. It is my Taylor: Yeah. MaKenzie: truth. and I you don't have to you know, believe it. I'm not trying to convince anybody to be honest with you. but I just want you to be aware is always what I say to people. I'm like, you can make your own opinion on it, but this is the truth. So. Taylor: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I don't we're not here to convince anybody. That's also exhausting, right? It's just like sharing your truth, sharing your story, sharing what's helped you and if take it or leave it. MaKenzie: Yep. That's that's how I feel. That's what like somebody I were talking about astrology the other day. And somebody's like, You're never gonna convince me of astrology. And I'm like, I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Like, that's on you. Like, no, Taylor: Mm-hmm. MaKenzie: thank you. Like it's helped me and it's benefited my life, but that's me. Taylor: Yes. MaKenzie: Well, this has been amazing. I feel like we've went some surface level on some deep topics. So I feel like we can definitely get layers deeper. But I think that there's some super valuable, you know, actionable things that we've provided for my audience today. So I want to thank you. I will put all of your links in the show notes, but I wanna allow you some time to share any of your resources and where my audience can find you. Taylor: Thank you. Yeah. So you can find me on Instagram, also TikTok, but at TaylorCope underscore. Just make sure there's the underscore. I also have a free membership where I do a free training and a free somatic resolution and expansion session every month. she's gonna put the link for that. I also do one-on-one clients. One-on-one is open for Whoever really that's on a healing journey. And then I also have some programs dedicated for entrepreneurs. And I also have a year long certification program coming out this month. So yeah. So yeah. MaKenzie: Amazing. Well, you have been such a pleasure, and I've enjoyed getting to know you, and I'm sure that we will talk soon. Taylor: Thank you so much for having me.