النص الكامل لحلقة Sabbath and Streaming Struggles

into that. 00:03:55.040 --> 00:03:57.830 Yeah, I'm sure there is a a niche fan 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:00.309 base for it. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, for 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:03.350 good reason. Cuz it's far out of our 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:06.229 sort of expertise. Yeah, I think it's 00:04:06.239 --> 00:04:08.190 something maybe that could be our next 00:04:08.200 --> 00:04:10.949 challenge. Something along the lines of 00:04:10.959 --> 00:04:13.229 a classical record that we love. 00:04:13.239 --> 00:04:15.190 challenge to actually do a bit of 00:04:15.200 --> 00:04:16.949 research about it and kind of think 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:19.030 about the composers we might be into and 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:21.430 then see if we can find the record. You 00:04:21.440 --> 00:04:23.830 could play the same game that we play 00:04:23.840 --> 00:04:27.270 with the records we know with that 00:04:27.280 --> 00:04:29.749 because what was the only thing that 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:31.510 I've dabbled with in the last year is 00:04:31.520 --> 00:04:33.909 that Riza album remember mentioned how 00:04:33.919 --> 00:04:37.749 he wrote a ballet and then went on tour 00:04:37.759 --> 00:04:39.510 with it and then brought out a record 00:04:39.520 --> 00:04:42.310 that was just completely classical. 00:04:42.320 --> 00:04:45.510 Yeah, I really enjoyed that and it kind 00:04:45.520 --> 00:04:47.510 of did feel some sort of movement from 00:04:47.520 --> 00:04:50.150 it. It's strange. It's like trying to 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:51.830 understand a different language. It's 00:04:51.840 --> 00:04:54.790 probably just exposure and like yeah, 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:56.469 you kind of need to develop an ear for 00:04:56.479 --> 00:04:58.950 it. Some of it probably resonates quite 00:04:58.960 --> 00:05:01.430 naturally, but compared to sitting down 00:05:01.440 --> 00:05:04.950 and listening to a 3minut pop song, it's 00:05:04.960 --> 00:05:07.909 going to kind of probably spark faster 00:05:07.919 --> 00:05:10.310 dopamine hit maybe than listening to a 00:05:10.320 --> 00:05:12.950 half hour symphony or whatever. Yeah. 00:05:12.960 --> 00:05:14.790 Yeah. Yeah. I feel like it's just been 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:17.830 shunned from the modern day society for 00:05:17.840 --> 00:05:20.870 it to be acceptable. It's almost like 00:05:20.880 --> 00:05:23.550 it's not a genre. It's a complete 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:26.310 alternate thing. I've met people that 00:05:26.320 --> 00:05:29.350 are into classical and who would 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:31.510 identify. I mean, for example, there 00:05:31.520 --> 00:05:33.110 were some musicians at the Birmingham 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:34.950 Conservator who were in the orchestra 00:05:34.960 --> 00:05:37.270 there, so they were obviously into their 00:05:37.280 --> 00:05:39.110 classical. The guy who first started 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:40.710 teaching me drums, he loved rock music, 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:42.230 but he also love classical music. It 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:44.310 actually seemed maybe more animated when 00:05:44.320 --> 00:05:49.110 talking about classical pieces than and 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:52.710 if you've ever like not long ago I went 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:55.590 with a friend to a theater like we kind 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:57.830 of just booked a ticket cuz we were in 00:05:57.840 --> 00:06:00.469 the town that day just cuz it was an old 00:06:00.479 --> 00:06:03.029 theater and it be nice architecture and 00:06:03.039 --> 00:06:05.350 just you know something to do like while 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:07.670 away and there was you know a recital 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:10.230 there. It's a big theater full of people 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:12.870 so it does exist. We just aren't in 00:06:12.880 --> 00:06:15.029 those bubbles. That's it, man. And I 00:06:15.039 --> 00:06:16.710 think we should be. It's shameful to say 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:18.309 that I don't know enough about classical 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:21.350 music, but I don't think I'm alone. And 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:23.670 yeah, maybe something to venture into, 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:26.469 look into. Maybe we can do a hear me out 00:06:26.479 --> 00:06:30.629 classical special. That's a great idea. 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:34.230 That's an amazing idea. Right. Okay. 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:36.070 That's coming soon. Wicked. In fact, I'm 00:06:36.080 --> 00:06:37.189 going to scrap everything else I'm 00:06:37.199 --> 00:06:40.230 doing. Okay. So, you went to what was it 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:43.270 called again? Mercury stores. Went up to 00:06:43.280 --> 00:06:44.870 the guy like, "Can I see the records?" 00:06:44.880 --> 00:06:47.430 Kitchen sink. No. And then he walked 00:06:47.440 --> 00:06:48.710 towards the back and looked to He's 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:50.710 like, "Have you been here before?" I was 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:53.029 like, "Yep." He's okay. But he didn't 00:06:53.039 --> 00:06:54.950 give me an introduction or tour last 00:06:54.960 --> 00:06:56.629 time. So, I've still missed out on that. 00:06:56.639 --> 00:06:59.510 I feel like the first time you went, he 00:06:59.520 --> 00:07:01.029 didn't say, "Have you been here before?" 00:07:01.039 --> 00:07:03.589 No. He just let me in. You didn't say, 00:07:03.599 --> 00:07:06.710 "Here's the sink." No, he didn't show me 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:09.270 anything. [ __ ] But yeah, so I was in 00:07:09.280 --> 00:07:11.270 there to look for either, like I said, 00:07:11.280 --> 00:07:14.309 Black Sabbath or Alvin Jones. I checked 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:16.710 there and I did find Black Sabbath 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:18.309 pretty fast actually. I was like, okay, 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:20.790 wicked. Okay, let me just see if I can 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:24.550 find Oven Jones. Anyway, I was having a 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:26.110 look around trying to find the jazz 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:28.950 section and I was like, where is it? And

00:07:28.960 --> 00:07:30.710 I didn't look next to the kitchen sink 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:32.469 at first cuz I remembered last time that 00:07:32.479 --> 00:07:35.749 had been where the singles were. But lo 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:39.189 and behold, You finally look next to the 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:42.390 sink and there was the jazz records. So, 00:07:42.400 --> 00:07:45.110 he's done a re reorganization. 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:46.870 Yeah, he's put the goodies next to the 00:07:46.880 --> 00:07:50.870 sink. I didn't find any lab singles this 00:07:50.880 --> 00:07:52.390 time. 00:07:52.400 --> 00:07:54.710 One for you. One for me. I'm surprised 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:57.749 you such a good I I did find a John Paul 00:07:57.759 --> 00:08:01.990 train record there and it did have Elvin 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:05.150 Jones on it, but it was just three 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:09.110 tracks and it was two live recordings 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:12.950 which Elvin Jones wasn't on. Yeah. And 00:08:12.960 --> 00:08:14.950 and then one studio track with Alvin 00:08:14.960 --> 00:08:18.629 Jones and that was like €40 or 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:19.990 something. And I thought, well, 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:21.670 considering that I'm looking for an 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:25.270 Alvin Jones record, maybe I'll look for 00:08:25.280 --> 00:08:28.629 it. Is it all new? Is it a used vinyl? 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:31.110 Like vintage vinyl? Interesting. So, 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:33.269 yeah, I know that those cold train 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:35.589 records can go through a lot. You're 00:08:35.599 --> 00:08:38.230 telling me that the Black Sabbath record 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:41.190 you have is an early pressing. It is. 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:45.910 Yes. So, this is a repressing, but from 00:08:45.920 --> 00:08:48.150 1976. 00:08:48.160 --> 00:08:51.110 Decent. I think the original came out in 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:52.870 71. 00:08:52.880 --> 00:08:55.269 I wanted to get it in the 70s. That's 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:57.030 incredible, man. That's really cool. 00:08:57.040 --> 00:08:58.630 It's really good. Yeah, it's really 00:08:58.640 --> 00:09:00.949 nice. The disc is like there's no 00:09:00.959 --> 00:09:02.630 scratches or marks or anything. There 00:09:02.640 --> 00:09:04.870 was maybe a bit of damp on it or a bit 00:09:04.880 --> 00:09:06.550 of moisture on it. That's all right. 00:09:06.560 --> 00:09:08.230 Gives it character. I cleaned it and 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:10.310 it's all good. So, nice. Let's have a 00:09:10.320 --> 00:09:12.710 look. Is it on? Oh, it's on NEMS, right? 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:15.509 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I didn't 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:17.670 know much about NEMS before. Oh, I 00:09:17.680 --> 00:09:21.190 looked it up afterwards. Um, they 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:23.670 repressed a bunch of stuff in the ' 70s 00:09:23.680 --> 00:09:26.710 and '8s on apparently cheaper vinyl. 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:29.030 They did like budget releases. So, they 00:09:29.040 --> 00:09:30.870 weren't bust in the end, I think. Cuz 00:09:30.880 --> 00:09:32.630 remember when I showed my Masters of 00:09:32.640 --> 00:09:35.110 Reality one on the part that was on 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:37.509 Nems, so it's the same sort of thing. I 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:38.710 looked into it. I was like, "Yeah, it's 00:09:38.720 --> 00:09:40.949 like I forgot now." What? It was kind of 00:09:40.959 --> 00:09:45.670 like a now that's what I call like I 00:09:45.680 --> 00:09:47.910 don't know like is it? No, not really. I 00:09:47.920 --> 00:09:50.230 I I looked it up and apparently it was a 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:53.430 label run by I forgot manager of the 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:54.870 Beatles or something related to the 00:09:54.880 --> 00:09:58.790 Beatles. Oh yeah. No, but apparently 00:09:58.800 --> 00:10:02.750 there was like some kind of like 00:10:02.760 --> 00:10:05.190 licensing loopholes with the Sabbath 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:07.590 material cuz 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:09.190 uh yeah, I don't know. But they 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:10.630 basically just took advantage of some 00:10:10.640 --> 00:10:12.230 situation where they were able to get 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:14.069 the license for the early black sabo 00:10:14.079 --> 00:10:16.150 stuff and they repressed them on cheaper 00:10:16.160 --> 00:10:17.670 vinyls. 00:10:17.680 --> 00:10:20.550 Yeah, it's in good nick and the song was 00:10:20.560 --> 00:10:23.990 obviously just as good. So Brian 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:27.670 Epstein, right? Beatles manager uh it 00:10:27.680 --> 00:10:30.509 was his company 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:34.069 and came after his death which is really 00:10:34.079 --> 00:10:36.790 confusing me. Well, I guess the label 00:10:36.800 --> 00:10:40.150 was still running after he died. True. 00:10:40.160 --> 00:10:42.550 Yeah, I'm lucky enough. Is it all 00:10:42.560 --> 00:10:45.190 Sabbath? So, they must have found like a 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:48.550 loophole for Sabbath records. I think 00:10:48.560 --> 00:10:51.190 Sabbath weren't well managed. 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:54.150 I know that Don Arden was in involved. 00:10:54.160 --> 00:10:57.910 He did some dodgy dealings. Yeah, his 00:10:57.920 --> 00:11:00.870 dad. Yeah. After reading his biography, 00:11:00.880 --> 00:11:02.790 apparently they didn't even get any cash 00:11:02.800 --> 00:11:04.949 in the early days. if they ever wanted 00:11:04.959 --> 00:11:06.630 anything, they had to call him up and 00:11:06.640 --> 00:11:08.069 was like, "Can you just buy me a 00:11:08.079 --> 00:11:09.990 Ferrari, please?" And it was just like, 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:13.190 "No way. No way." I'm seeing other 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:16.069 records now, but it is a lot of metal as 00:11:16.079 --> 00:11:17.750 well. So maybe they found a loophole 00:11:17.760 --> 00:11:19.990 with like metal music. If anybody else 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:22.550 knows more about it, let us know. But

00:11:22.560 --> 00:11:24.389 yeah, I think it is interesting that 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:26.230 they managed to find a little bit of a 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:28.150 loophole. Just to add, it is game fold 00:11:28.160 --> 00:11:30.470 as well though, so it is nice. Hey, look 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:34.949 at that, man. Nice. But yeah, in the 00:11:34.959 --> 00:11:39.829 spirit of early classical rock, I just 00:11:39.839 --> 00:11:42.389 picked this one out of my collection and 00:11:42.399 --> 00:11:45.430 go this is spin as well. Nice classic. 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:49.190 This is also Oh, look at that. And this 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:52.310 one is actually pressed the year it came 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:55.670 out. Is it Is it a plum label? No, it's 00:11:55.680 --> 00:11:58.069 Atlantic. Is it? Yeah, but is it the 00:11:58.079 --> 00:12:00.550 plum colored ones? No, it's green and 00:12:00.560 --> 00:12:03.990 yellow. Orange. Nice. 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:06.470 I've seen some super rare ones that are 00:12:06.480 --> 00:12:09.430 like a plum label or something. Well, 00:12:09.440 --> 00:12:12.870 this is where the tool comes in. Yeah, 00:12:12.880 --> 00:12:14.550 it's the handy tool that Bill has gone 00:12:14.560 --> 00:12:17.350 ahead and used. Oh, wait. Hey, like you 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:19.509 couldn't have picked a worse album to 00:12:19.519 --> 00:12:23.430 use the tool for. Why? You bought Black 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:26.389 Sabbath by Black Sabbath. No, it worked 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:28.470 for both of them. That's obviously the 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:31.430 tool is the tool is very sophisticated. 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:34.069 Yeah. Uh, I just typed in Black Sabbath. 00:12:34.079 --> 00:12:37.269 Black Sabbath. There was a Then I 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:39.310 searched this record on the 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:41.509 tool and then it says, "You want to 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:43.949 share your screen?" Cuz I'm getting it 00:12:43.959 --> 00:12:46.750 wrong. It's not working. Couldn't find 00:12:46.760 --> 00:12:50.230 release. Did I spell it wrong? Me to 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:52.550 have a go. 00:12:52.560 --> 00:12:55.910 Oh, there we go. Oh, wait. That's what I 00:12:55.920 --> 00:12:59.509 need to do. That's the Yeah, that's the 00:12:59.519 --> 00:13:01.030 the price for an original copy. And 00:13:01.040 --> 00:13:02.150 given that this came out in the same 00:13:02.160 --> 00:13:03.590 year, even though it's not an original 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:05.670 pressing, I thought, "Oh, wow. Maybe 00:13:05.680 --> 00:13:07.430 this is worth something." But then when 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:10.470 I actually looked up this pressing, it 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:13.509 was like 30 quid. Yeah, I think that 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:15.509 would be the one with those Plum Labels 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:17.509 that I was talking about. There's I 00:13:17.519 --> 00:13:19.190 think there's a problem with this 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:22.230 description as well. The entitled fourth 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:24.550 studio album by the English rock group 00:13:24.560 --> 00:13:27.509 Led Zeppelin. The word is wrong. 00:13:27.519 --> 00:13:31.430 commonly known as Led Zeppelin 4. But 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:33.829 also, this isn't the fourth studio 00:13:33.839 --> 00:13:37.190 album, is it? No, it's too was released 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:39.910 in November. No, it's giving you the 00:13:39.920 --> 00:13:43.350 description for Led Zeppelin 4. Yep. 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:47.389 Whoever owns this and runs this trusty 00:13:47.399 --> 00:13:49.829 tool, but we're going to inform them to 00:13:49.839 --> 00:13:52.150 kind of just work on that when I'm sure 00:13:52.160 --> 00:13:53.910 they will. In no time, I'm sure they're 00:13:53.920 --> 00:13:56.069 going to have it just sorted. It's just 00:13:56.079 --> 00:13:58.310 going to be fine. In the meantime, just 00:13:58.320 --> 00:13:59.750 check out site anyway. You might as 00:13:59.760 --> 00:14:02.990 well. Well, obviously it's it's fitting 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:05.750 because it's a great album at the Black 00:14:05.760 --> 00:14:07.590 Sabbath album. Led Zeppelin 2 obviously 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:10.310 is amazing as well. There was a 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:12.069 documentary out this weekend in the 00:14:12.079 --> 00:14:15.990 cinemas becoming Led Zeppelin. I heard 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:18.629 some friends go that went from the 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:20.790 sounds of it. It was a good film. If 00:14:20.800 --> 00:14:23.430 you're a big Led Zeppelin nerd, 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:25.670 apparently might not have a lot of stuff 00:14:25.680 --> 00:14:27.829 that you haven't already seen, but it's 00:14:27.839 --> 00:14:30.230 well made and enjoyable. Definitely go 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:31.750 and check that out. I imagine they've 00:14:31.760 --> 00:14:33.350 got it going on at Mockingbird or 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:35.750 something. Cinema, maybe. I don't know. 00:14:35.760 --> 00:14:37.670 Check it out. Check it out. With the 00:14:37.680 --> 00:14:40.310 Sabbath record, it's obviously fitting 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:42.310 because of what's happened that we 00:14:42.320 --> 00:14:43.910 mentioned in the last episode, which is 00:14:43.920 --> 00:14:47.110 the last gig. at the time of recording 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:48.470 this. By the time this comes out, it's 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:51.189 probably going to be long gone since 00:14:51.199 --> 00:14:55.910 this being like news. But yeah, we've 00:14:55.920 --> 00:14:58.069 we're trying to get tickets. Currently 00:14:58.079 --> 00:15:01.310 not successful as uh most of the world 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:04.870 cuz in high demand. I'm just hoping they 00:15:04.880 --> 00:15:08.150 do another date. Yeah, through popular 00:15:08.160 --> 00:15:10.150 demand. I wouldn't be surprised. The 00:15:10.160 --> 00:15:12.870 only question would be will it be 00:15:12.880 --> 00:15:14.949 possible

for there to be another date? 00:15:14.959 --> 00:15:17.750 feel like it's he's dropping. It's 00:15:17.760 --> 00:15:20.389 demanding already. He's doing two sets. 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:22.550 Sabbath. It's Oussie Osbor set and the 00:15:22.560 --> 00:15:25.990 Black Sabbath set. Really? His build 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:29.110 does both on the poster. 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:30.710 Yeah. And obviously he's really not 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:33.509 doing good. He's in quite a debilitating 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:35.189 condition. He's probably going to be sat 00:15:35.199 --> 00:15:37.509 down, but you know, you have to see him 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:40.870 play. So what's more important? Yeah, 00:15:40.880 --> 00:15:43.110 this is it. No, obviously Aussie if 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:45.509 you've only got the one gig in. Yeah, 00:15:45.519 --> 00:15:47.509 fair enough. But it's just a shame cuz 00:15:47.519 --> 00:15:50.949 it's on home soil, man. Anyway, there's 00:15:50.959 --> 00:15:52.870 still a chance we're going to try and 00:15:52.880 --> 00:15:56.230 nab some in general admission, which I'm 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:58.069 pretty and pretty sad. There's a pretty 00:15:58.079 --> 00:16:01.269 sad tomorrow. So, yeah, we'll see what 00:16:01.279 --> 00:16:03.269 else has been going on. I've got some 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:06.629 confessions to make about our journey in 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:10.150 quitting Spotify. Forgive me, Billy, but 00:16:10.160 --> 00:16:12.389 I have sinned this week. What have you 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:16.870 done? I was in the car and oddly enough, 00:16:16.880 --> 00:16:18.389 I was in the mood for some country 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:19.910 music. 00:16:19.920 --> 00:16:23.110 Okay. So, I initially was like, well, 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:24.949 not going to get my fix on the radio for 00:16:24.959 --> 00:16:27.350 that. It's quite niche. And, you know, 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:29.350 there's not a country radio station in 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:32.790 my car. So, I've opened Spotify and 00:16:32.800 --> 00:16:35.990 searched for an album, found one, and 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:38.910 then I listened to it on Spotify. 00:16:38.920 --> 00:16:42.870 No, the album I was going to forgive. 00:16:42.880 --> 00:16:45.030 It felt like a drug that I hadn't took 00:16:45.040 --> 00:16:47.910 in ages. And then you got all that 00:16:47.920 --> 00:16:51.030 dopamine. I got so much dopamine off it. 00:16:51.040 --> 00:16:52.910 It was 00:16:52.920 --> 00:16:56.150 amazing. It was just what I wanted. It 00:16:56.160 --> 00:16:59.910 was Yeah. euphoric. But I want to make a 00:16:59.920 --> 00:17:01.829 point, right? I'm going to go back again 00:17:01.839 --> 00:17:04.029 to not doing it, but I want to make a 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:09.270 point that it's about balance. It felt 00:17:09.280 --> 00:17:13.189 good to do that in the way that I did, 00:17:13.199 --> 00:17:16.630 but up until that point, it wasn't my 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:21.429 main portal of enjoying music. So, with 00:17:21.439 --> 00:17:23.909 the right balance, I think you could 00:17:23.919 --> 00:17:27.029 enjoy the playlist on Spotify more. I 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:28.950 found a lot of fulfillment from it, but 00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:31.909 in excess you don't. So everything in 00:17:31.919 --> 00:17:33.350 moderation, you know, it's like 00:17:33.360 --> 00:17:35.830 everything, isn't it? So it was kind of 00:17:35.840 --> 00:17:37.830 it was a lesson to realize that, but 00:17:37.840 --> 00:17:40.950 also equally I do feel bad and I'm going 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:42.310 cold turkey again. I'm just going to 00:17:42.320 --> 00:17:44.950 maybe try I've got this trigger point. 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:47.909 It's like when I go in the car or, you 00:17:47.919 --> 00:17:50.510 know, when I'm I'm going to try and get 00:17:50.520 --> 00:17:54.310 things set up so that that doesn't 00:17:54.320 --> 00:17:56.630 happen again because you kind of get the 00:17:56.640 --> 00:17:59.350 chance to appreciate it more because you 00:17:59.360 --> 00:18:01.909 haven't had it. Like if you hadn't had 00:18:01.919 --> 00:18:04.630 this experience of trying to avoid it 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:06.950 and you just you probably wouldn't even 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:08.710 remember that you had listened to 00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:10.870 country music on that car journey. 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:13.830 Whereas now you had a euphoric 00:18:13.840 --> 00:18:16.630 experience with it, which is probably 00:18:16.640 --> 00:18:21.110 more than you can say for most car 00:18:21.120 --> 00:18:23.110 journey music listening experiences you 00:18:23.120 --> 00:18:26.230 had prior to the experiment. Yeah, good 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:28.230 point, man. I think initially there was 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:31.270 a weird euphor euphoria last week with 00:18:31.280 --> 00:18:33.590 picking the albums I was playing and 00:18:33.600 --> 00:18:35.630 there was different sense of euphoria 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:39.190 with letting Spotify take the reigns a 00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:41.909 bit. Yeah. If Neil's different, I 00:18:41.919 --> 00:18:44.070 personally found that it was beneficial 00:18:44.080 --> 00:18:47.190 to dabble with both during that. But 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:48.390 that's what this whole experiment is 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:50.630 about, isn't it? Is stepping back and 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:53.510 observing more what our habits are and 00:18:53.520 --> 00:18:55.830 all to have a more fulfilling experience 00:18:55.840 --> 00:18:58.710 from it and not just passively existing 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:01.669 really in this space. I maybe have a bit 00:19:01.679 --> 00:19:02.990 of a confession as 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:06.870 well. Here we go. See, I'm curious. it. 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:08.870 Would this confession have come out if I 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:13.110 weren't so honest just now and humble? I 00:19:13.120 --> 00:19:14.710

No, I'm sure it would have. I maybe 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:16.789 haven't really considered it properly 00:19:16.799 --> 00:19:19.430 yet and I've kind of just ignored that 00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:23.590 it's really a cheat or whatever. I have 00:19:23.600 --> 00:19:27.190 an alarm. My morning alarm is basically 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:30.230 just spot like my Alexa is just 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:31.789 triggered to play 00:19:31.799 --> 00:19:34.470 Spotify and play this kind of comes on. 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:37.510 I don't actually pay attention to it. 00:19:37.520 --> 00:19:39.350 What? It's It's like you're letting it 00:19:39.360 --> 00:19:42.549 completely take the reigns. You're not 00:19:42.559 --> 00:19:45.270 even conscious and then you are. And 00:19:45.280 --> 00:19:47.270 it's like, "Hello, Billy. Welcome to 00:19:47.280 --> 00:19:49.669 another day where I will control your 00:19:49.679 --> 00:19:51.750 listening experience." I'm going Black 00:19:51.760 --> 00:19:54.630 Mirror with it a little bit. But um no, 00:19:54.640 --> 00:19:59.110 cuz I found having a playlist being a 00:19:59.120 --> 00:20:02.390 great alarm in the morning, not as a 00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:04.150 music listening experience, but just as 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:06.070 a way to wake up in the morning. No, 00:20:06.080 --> 00:20:08.150 fair enough, man. Rather than having a 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:11.270 really aggressive [ __ ] wake up thing. 00:20:11.280 --> 00:20:14.630 Yeah, it's good to build. The playlist 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:17.669 is just on a really low volume and it's 00:20:17.679 --> 00:20:20.150 more time to wake up. If I've gone to 00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:22.789 bed on time, then I wake up on time and 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:25.110 I know it's time for waking up. Yeah, 00:20:25.120 --> 00:20:26.630 fair blame, man. I'm surprised it's 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:28.149 still working, to be honest. I thought 00:20:28.159 --> 00:20:29.990 it would stop working after I cancel my 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:32.870 subscription, but it just has just been 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:34.549 working. Doesn't mean Have you managed 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:36.310 that? Probably just because it's been 00:20:36.320 --> 00:20:38.310 set for so long like that. It's just 00:20:38.320 --> 00:20:40.549 forgot to check if it's logged in. Yeah, 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:43.990 fair enough, man. Well, we've both seen 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:46.190 this week. Mine is clearly 00:20:46.200 --> 00:20:48.950 worse, but we're working. If you listen 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:51.510 to country music. Yeah. Couldn't you 00:20:51.520 --> 00:20:54.710 find a country radio station? Yes. I 00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:55.909 could have been rooting and tooting on a 00:20:55.919 --> 00:20:58.230 DAB radio station before you know it. I 00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:00.190 could have been just getting my country 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:02.789 on guiltree. 00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:06.230 And I guess that raises the question of

00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:09.190 where did we draw the line? Because if 00:21:09.200 --> 00:21:12.350 you get to the point with digging out 00:21:12.360 --> 00:21:14.430 niche radio 00:21:14.440 --> 00:21:18.149 stations to like the playlist just to 00:21:18.159 --> 00:21:20.789 find a playlist. Oh, this one's a radio 00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:22.630 station, not a playlist. Even though 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:25.430 it's just 20 24/7 country music with no 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:28.070 talking. No, I think it's about choice 00:21:28.080 --> 00:21:30.470 of conversation. It's about connection 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:32.310 between people and saying, "Look, I hope 00:21:32.320 --> 00:21:34.549 I found this. Give it a listen." I think 00:21:34.559 --> 00:21:38.149 it's detached a little bit, but there's 00:21:38.159 --> 00:21:41.430 no reason that you can't benefit from 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:42.630 both. And I think that's what I'm 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:44.230 starting to realize given the day and 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:45.909 age that we're in. It's like you've 00:21:45.919 --> 00:21:47.669 literally got a pencil in a day to 00:21:47.679 --> 00:21:49.830 discover a new album. Cuz if you don't, 00:21:49.840 --> 00:21:52.549 then you won't. Well, I think part of 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:55.750 the project would be each week we make 00:21:55.760 --> 00:21:58.990 an effort either to find a new 00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:03.590 album or to revisit an old favorite. So 00:22:03.600 --> 00:22:06.549 for me last week it was Black Sabbath. I 00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:07.909 didn't own it. So I went out and bought 00:22:07.919 --> 00:22:10.310 it. I did pay more for it than I think I 00:22:10.320 --> 00:22:13.470 should have though. Cost me 00:22:13.480 --> 00:22:17.190 €50 on the higher end. It is good Nick 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:19.430 though. Things tend to be a bit more 00:22:19.440 --> 00:22:21.190 expensive on motor as well because we're 00:22:21.200 --> 00:22:22.950 fair enough. Small island in the middle 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:24.549 of nowhere. And look at the moment, man. 00:22:24.559 --> 00:22:26.789 I mean, that thing is in demand. You 00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:28.470 could probably sell that. Swapping for 00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:30.549 some tickets. 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:32.230 Everyone here is getting a ticket. I 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:33.830 don't think you buy a beer at the 00:22:33.840 --> 00:22:37.270 stadium with that. Yeah, but I'm still 00:22:37.280 --> 00:22:39.590 happy boy. I think my budget for music 00:22:39.600 --> 00:22:41.430 for the rest of the month now is kind of 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:43.350 like tough. Fair enough. But it's still 00:22:43.360 --> 00:22:44.950 a good choice, man. It's a great album 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:46.350 and Yeah. 00:22:46.360 --> 00:22:50.630 So, okay. I guess that wraps it up. I 00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:53.110 think that's good. Yeah, we're going to 00:22:53.120 --> 00:22:55.750 continue our journey of trying our very 00:22:55.760 --> 00:22:59.390 best to consume more physical forms of 00:22:59.400 --> 00:23:03.590 media and going to keep you updated with 00:23:03.600 --> 00:23:06.149 consuming digital media as well. I've 00:23:06.159 --> 00:23:08.549 been listening to a lot of NTS and I'll 00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:10.230 find a song on the radio station I 00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:12.149 really like and then I'll Shazam it. 00:23:12.159 --> 00:23:15.270 I've never really huge, but now I am. 00:23:15.280 --> 00:23:17.029 And I guess that is a new way of music 00:23:17.039 --> 00:23:19.029 discovery to be fair. I much prefer 00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:21.909 doing that than, you know, just having a 00:23:21.919 --> 00:23:23.590 playlist on the background and then just 00:23:23.600 --> 00:23:25.430 thinking cuz you know what it is if it's 00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:28.470 on Spotify and I can find it. Oh, I like 00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:30.390 that song. I'll go ahead and find it. 00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:31.990 And then you get lost in the ether of 00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:35.110 the playlist. I kind of just add song 00:23:35.120 --> 00:23:36.950 like on Spotify. I would if I hear a 00:23:36.960 --> 00:23:39.510 song that I like, I would click add like 00:23:39.520 --> 00:23:42.549 add to liked songs, but then I just kind 00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:45.110 of had this list of liked songs that I 00:23:45.120 --> 00:23:47.190 didn't really know anything about, you 00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:48.870 know, maybe just heard it once or twice 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:50.310 in passing and then forget the name of 00:23:50.320 --> 00:23:53.350 the artist or the song. Yeah. Don't 00:23:53.360 --> 00:23:56.630 develop that same bond with the music 00:23:56.640 --> 00:23:59.190 like I did with the albums that I got 00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:02.710 excited for before. Yeah. I think we've 00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:05.669 got an interesting challenge. Maybe we 00:24:05.679 --> 00:24:10.669 can do the record next week. Mhm. The 00:24:10.679 --> 00:24:13.510 classical hear the Alps. Yeah, let's do 00:24:13.520 --> 00:24:16.149 that. That'll be an excuse to dig out 00:24:16.159 --> 00:24:17.830 some venue. 00:24:17.840 --> 00:24:19.590 Yeah, I think I've got some in the loft 00:24:19.600 --> 00:24:21.190 actually. Failing that, I'm going to hit 00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:24.549 up a charity shop or if I can't find a 00:24:24.559 --> 00:24:26.390 actual record cuz I I just want to buy 00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:27.830 one now that we're talking about it. 00:24:27.840 --> 00:24:29.669 We're just going to try and find an 00:24:29.679 --> 00:24:32.070 album that resonates with us. We're 00:24:32.080 --> 00:24:33.350 going to have to spend the whole week 00:24:33.360 --> 00:24:36.310 listening to classical music. No, we can 00:24:36.320 --> 00:24:39.269 do like a series like it's an evolution. 00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:41.830 See where we like this is week one and 00:24:41.840 --> 00:24:44.390 then maybe in a month or two we can do 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:47.190 part two and see how classical evolution 00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:49.909 has come along. Mac counts as classical, 00:24:49.919 --> 00:24:52.470 right? It's pretty much the same. Isn't 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:54.789 that like Moar? Isn't Mo in Fleetwood 00:24:54.799 --> 00:24:58.390 Mac? He was Fleetwood. Mo Fleetwood was 00:24:58.400 --> 00:25:00.549 the drummer. Yeah, I think so. I think 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:03.430 so. Yeah, he's on that. That's him. 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:05.750 That's him. That's him before he was 00:25:05.760 --> 00:25:08.310 born. Mick Fleetwood's son. But anyway, 00:25:08.320 --> 00:25:09.909 follow us on socials or don't. 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