النص الكامل لحلقة KCAA: Let's Dine Out with Allan Borgen (Sun, 8 Nov, 2026)

from Connection to Cruise, who I've known for almost 81 00:04:14.379 --> 00:04:15.060 20 years, I think. 82 00:04:15.310 --> 00:04:15.599 At least. 83 00:04:15.620 --> 00:04:18.370 It's good that we're not getting old. Yeah. 84 00:04:18.410 --> 00:04:19.290 We both look different. 85 00:04:20.110 --> 00:04:22.689 And Connection to Cruise is out of Redlands. And we 86 00:04:22.730 --> 00:04:25.149 have a special guest that she introduced me to yesterday. 87 00:04:25.730 --> 00:04:28.480 And I thought we were going to talk to both 88 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:31.879 special people who are specialists in their field. And why 89 00:04:31.899 --> 00:04:32.800 don't you introduce your guest? 90 00:04:34.259 --> 00:04:40.660 Well, today with me is one of my favorite agents 91 00:04:40.699 --> 00:04:43.939 that works with our company, Betsy Weber. She's been with 92 00:04:44.060 --> 00:04:47.000 us about, I think, going on 10 years. 93 00:04:47.019 --> 00:04:48.300 Yeah. 94 00:04:48.540 --> 00:04:55.209 And she is the most passionate person I know about cruising. 95 00:04:55.509 --> 00:04:55.829 Oh, yeah. 96 00:04:56.389 --> 00:04:58.350 She is obsessed. 97 00:04:58.410 --> 00:04:59.170 She's very shy. 98 00:05:01.209 --> 00:05:04.569 And if You know, she knows a lot about cruising, 99 00:05:04.670 --> 00:05:09.899 and specifically she knows a lot about Princess Cruises. And I, 100 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:13.360 you know, I kind of like the Celebrity Royal Caribbean brand, 101 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:16.060 but she likes the Princess brand. But we do it all. 102 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:17.120 Ooh, rivalry. 103 00:05:17.250 --> 00:05:18.310 Oh, no, not at all. Not at all. 104 00:05:18.509 --> 00:05:20.490 No, we just have our specialties. 105 00:05:20.930 --> 00:05:21.370 That's right. 106 00:05:21.649 --> 00:05:21.790 So. 107 00:05:22.399 --> 00:05:24.000 Well, Betsy, welcome to Let's On Out Show. 108 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:25.220 Thank you. 109 00:05:25.339 --> 00:05:28.220 Our show is about food, but primarily food and travel, too. 110 00:05:28.420 --> 00:05:32.459 We want to introduce people. On our vacation, we ate 111 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:33.930 a lot. Oh, yeah. 112 00:05:33.939 --> 00:05:35.350 It goes hand in hand, for sure. 113 00:05:35.370 --> 00:05:37.310 Why don't you talk a little bit about yourself? You've 114 00:05:37.329 --> 00:05:38.649 got a kind of interesting story. 115 00:05:39.490 --> 00:05:44.129 Well, I have always loved the idea of travel. And 116 00:05:44.189 --> 00:05:47.810 probably about 20 years ago, I went on my first cruise, 117 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:52.480 which was on Carnival, and had no idea what I 118 00:05:52.540 --> 00:05:55.639 was doing. I did everything wrong that you could do 119 00:05:55.759 --> 00:05:58.110 on a cruise, but I still loved it. And we 120 00:05:58.139 --> 00:06:01.750 went back and we've continued to go back, did several 121 00:06:01.970 --> 00:06:08.490 carnival cruises. Also, you mentioned Royal Caribbean. I actually love 122 00:06:08.550 --> 00:06:12.529 their ships. They left the West Coast for about 10 123 00:06:12.529 --> 00:06:16.519 years and they just came back last year. And I 124 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:21.779 definitely recommend them. But I started going with Princess Cruises, 125 00:06:21.939 --> 00:06:25.660 and the more you travel with any cruise line, you 126 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:30.680 get a lot of loyalty benefits. So that's one of 127 00:06:30.699 --> 00:06:35.920 the main reasons. Plus, I think they are perfectly middle 128 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:43.730 ground price-wise. They're great for families and single people, couples, 129 00:06:43.930 --> 00:06:44.500 older people. 130 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:46.829 You mentioned that, and that's important because there are a 131 00:06:46.870 --> 00:06:51.810 lot of ships more attuned to, like, Younger families. Yes, yes. 132 00:06:52.009 --> 00:06:54.560 I think it was Royal Caribbean when I brought my 133 00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:57.860 kids there. I never saw them. Their kids program, the 134 00:06:57.899 --> 00:06:58.439 teen one. 135 00:06:58.540 --> 00:06:58.779 Yes. 136 00:06:58.899 --> 00:07:00.519 And then the kids program. I never saw them. 137 00:07:00.819 --> 00:07:01.060 Yes. 138 00:07:01.420 --> 00:07:03.680 They come up to eat, and bye, Dad. You know, 139 00:07:03.699 --> 00:07:04.120 that was it. 140 00:07:04.300 --> 00:07:04.879 Yeah. 141 00:07:04.899 --> 00:07:07.160 And really spectacular programs. I really, really enjoyed it. 142 00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:13.850 Yeah. The ships that I'm familiar with, Royal Caribbean, Carnival, 143 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:15.829 and Princess, all have kids programs. 144 00:07:15.850 --> 00:07:16.430 I think most of them do. 145 00:07:16.470 --> 00:07:17.649 At no additional cost. 146 00:07:17.709 --> 00:07:17.850 Right. 147 00:07:18.699 --> 00:07:21.500 So you can do things as a family together, but 148 00:07:21.639 --> 00:07:23.769 if mom and dad want to get away for a while. 149 00:07:23.790 --> 00:07:25.129 There are a lot of nooks and crannies you can 150 00:07:25.149 --> 00:07:25.629 get away from. 151 00:07:25.829 --> 00:07:26.800 Yeah, definitely. 152 00:07:26.810 --> 00:07:27.540 A lot of activities. 153 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:31.439 Any cruise line has a good kids program, but some 154 00:07:31.459 --> 00:07:33.430 of them are more geared towards, you know, like Royal 155 00:07:33.470 --> 00:07:36.410 Caribbean now has the rock climbing walls and the ice 156 00:07:36.430 --> 00:07:37.290 skating rinks. 157 00:07:37.350 --> 00:07:38.410 Video games. 158 00:07:38.449 --> 00:07:40.930 You know, well, they all have some of that, those 159 00:07:40.990 --> 00:07:43.889 video games. Of course, you know, we're the pickleball fanatics, 160 00:07:44.129 --> 00:07:45.509 so pickleball on board. 161 00:07:45.529 --> 00:07:47.110 Well, we're going to have fun if you guys talk 162 00:07:47.129 --> 00:07:48.009 about pickleball one

day. 163 00:07:48.529 --> 00:07:48.790 Oh, yeah. 164 00:07:48.810 --> 00:07:51.110 To me, the dumbest sport in the world, but my 165 00:07:51.149 --> 00:07:53.269 mind is open. Don't give me that look. You guys 166 00:07:53.310 --> 00:07:53.620 see that look. 167 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:54.139 Okay. 168 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:56.779 Well, my mind's open and kind of explain it. 169 00:07:56.779 --> 00:07:58.439 Well, you'll have to come over to our house and 170 00:07:58.480 --> 00:07:59.579 watch us play. 171 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:00.040 In our backyard. 172 00:08:00.060 --> 00:08:03.100 I'll pull my groin. I said you could be a spectator. 173 00:08:04.139 --> 00:08:05.699 You can be a spectator or a cheerleader. 174 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:06.399 Do you serve food? 175 00:08:06.980 --> 00:08:07.699 Yeah, we'll serve food. 176 00:08:07.740 --> 00:08:08.339 I will be there. 177 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:08.920 And wine. 178 00:08:08.939 --> 00:08:10.519 I'll be there too. 179 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:12.769 That's the one thing about pickleballs, you know, it's a 180 00:08:12.790 --> 00:08:14.050 little bit not so serious. 181 00:08:14.110 --> 00:08:17.069 In terms of the cruising industry, I can see, Martha, 182 00:08:17.089 --> 00:08:19.029 so are you. Where is it going now? Because it's 183 00:08:19.129 --> 00:08:22.879 changed over the years and I know since the pandemic, 184 00:08:22.899 --> 00:08:24.620 it was really hard to get people in. They were 185 00:08:24.660 --> 00:08:26.639 afraid to go. And even on the ship that we 186 00:08:26.660 --> 00:08:29.850 went on, what, the last two weeks, three weeks, some 187 00:08:29.889 --> 00:08:33.169 people wore masks, some didn't. But tons and tons of 188 00:08:33.230 --> 00:08:38.759 safety features, sanitizing everywhere. I mean, literally everywhere. And we 189 00:08:38.799 --> 00:08:40.799 never felt really out of place or anything. And we 190 00:08:40.820 --> 00:08:43.000 felt it was very safe. Where do you think it's 191 00:08:43.019 --> 00:08:45.389 going now? What changes have you seen over the years? 192 00:08:45.570 --> 00:08:50.230 I've seen a lot of positive changes. Definitely the sanitary 193 00:08:50.269 --> 00:08:54.129 routines that they've incorporated on the cruise ships because of 194 00:08:54.210 --> 00:09:01.860 COVID have helped stop the spread of other viruses. So 195 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:06.480 that's actually kind of been a positive, but it was 196 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:11.240 very hard on the passengers and the crew as being 197 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:13.019 down for a full two years. 198 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:15.019 And the cruise line, oh my gosh. I mean, I 199 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:16.960 can't imagine how much money they lost. 200 00:09:17.559 --> 00:09:19.820 Well, also, I heard from a lot of people that 201 00:09:20.100 --> 00:09:22.240 they're short of staff. It's really hard to find people. 202 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:25.399 It's been difficult coming back. I have

noticed that, that, 203 00:09:25.419 --> 00:09:28.360 you know, like anything else we've talked about, even the, 204 00:09:28.460 --> 00:09:32.120 you know, the restaurant industry and anywhere, they're still having 205 00:09:32.139 --> 00:09:37.070 a hard time finding, you know, good people that are 206 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:40.009 trained to do the job. They're still struggling to get 207 00:09:40.529 --> 00:09:41.970 Get their crew, their people back. 208 00:09:42.370 --> 00:09:42.549 Right. 209 00:09:42.750 --> 00:09:46.629 Well, I've been on about 10 cruises post-COVID, and I've 210 00:09:46.750 --> 00:09:52.179 definitely seen a progression since that time. My first cruise 211 00:09:53.480 --> 00:09:57.769 that they had opened up, when we first stepped foot 212 00:09:57.909 --> 00:10:00.220 on the ship, the crew was lined up. and they 213 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:03.379 were applauding as everybody came on board. They were so 214 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:06.360 happy to see us. They were back to work again, 215 00:10:06.419 --> 00:10:12.379 and they loved their cruise ships. And it went from 216 00:10:12.919 --> 00:10:19.830 being passengers less than 1,000 to full capacity. on every 217 00:10:19.889 --> 00:10:22.269 ship that I've been on since. So I really see 218 00:10:22.330 --> 00:10:28.419 that the cruising industry is definitely progressing. They've added a 219 00:10:28.500 --> 00:10:35.309 lot more activities on board. They're building newer, bigger, better ships. 220 00:10:35.330 --> 00:10:36.610 They're all trying to outdo each other. 221 00:10:36.730 --> 00:10:37.909 Yes, definitely. 222 00:10:38.129 --> 00:10:39.090 It's like once they get to one. 223 00:10:39.250 --> 00:10:40.220 It's the American way. 224 00:10:40.379 --> 00:10:42.340 They get to one level, it's like, screw that, we're 225 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:43.740 going higher, and we're going higher. 226 00:10:43.940 --> 00:10:44.179 Yes. 227 00:10:44.259 --> 00:10:46.200 What's the biggest ship is what? Is that Wonders of 228 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:46.539 the Sea? 229 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:49.179 It's going to be the icon of the seas, I believe. 230 00:10:49.220 --> 00:10:52.820 Royal Caribbean icon. How many people? I think it's 5,000. 231 00:10:52.820 --> 00:10:53.860 Oh, my goodness. 232 00:10:54.450 --> 00:10:58.250 And they just announced this week another new build, which 233 00:10:58.350 --> 00:11:02.250 is going to be... I believe it's being called the Star... 234 00:11:02.389 --> 00:11:07.120 of the seas 5 000 people yeah that's it but 235 00:11:07.379 --> 00:11:09.899 i have to bring brought some pictures just to show 236 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:11.440 you the craziness of these. 237 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:13.460 Ships but you know they're big enough where people it's 238 00:11:13.500 --> 00:11:15.460 not like you're squished in i mean not at all 239 00:11:15.539 --> 00:11:17.259 the ship that we went on is an older ship 240 00:11:17.460 --> 00:11:19.980 and um it was filled you know i mean i 241 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:22.740 think it was 100 and there was some challenges in 242 00:11:22.779 --> 00:11:25.110 terms of finding seating and stuff so but on the 243 00:11:25.139 --> 00:11:27.210 new ships they're all over the place i mean it's 244 00:11:27.289 --> 00:11:27.950 so big and. 245 00:11:28.580 --> 00:11:31.840 They've got it. They've just fine-tuned everything. They build one, 246 00:11:31.899 --> 00:11:34.100 and they take from that one, and they say, okay, 247 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:35.799 we're going to do this a little bit different and 248 00:11:35.820 --> 00:11:40.190 a little bit better. So I know Celebrity has done that. 249 00:11:40.330 --> 00:11:43.230 I know Royal Caribbean has done that. I know Princess 250 00:11:43.269 --> 00:11:46.909 when you were talking about the cabanas on the balconies. Oh, 251 00:11:47.350 --> 00:11:48.370 that sounds amazing. 252 00:11:48.529 --> 00:11:53.240 Yeah, the new Sun Princess that is debuting very soon 253 00:11:53.250 --> 00:11:59.620 on the mini-suites. Besides your regular balcony, it extends into 254 00:11:59.659 --> 00:12:02.460 a private cabana, and it's just going to be a 255 00:12:02.620 --> 00:12:06.200 really nice experience. I think that that particular ship is 256 00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:11.559 geared towards bringing the outdoors in, the sun, the sky, 257 00:12:11.620 --> 00:12:17.009 the sea, much more open spaces. I think it's going 258 00:12:17.029 --> 00:12:18.009 to be a great experience. 259 00:12:18.070 --> 00:12:19.549 I had the opportunity to go on the edge, and 260 00:12:19.570 --> 00:12:21.950 it was like that inside, a lot of greenery and openness, 261 00:12:21.970 --> 00:12:24.779 which is a beautiful ship, and I'm sure it only 262 00:12:24.820 --> 00:12:26.850 was like 1,500 people, and it was kind of small. 263 00:12:26.990 --> 00:12:30.090 The edge is with celebrity, the celebrity edge. 264 00:12:30.490 --> 00:12:32.470 But I think all ships are really trying their best 265 00:12:32.490 --> 00:12:33.070 and everything. 266 00:12:33.529 --> 00:12:38.029 Oh, they have a personality. That's true. I think you 267 00:12:38.490 --> 00:12:44.990 see the differences from stepping from Holland America to Royal Caribbean. 268 00:12:45.330 --> 00:12:49.370 I did get to experience an MSC cruise at the 269 00:12:49.409 --> 00:12:53.070 beginning of October, which was... Mediterranean Shipping Company. It's an 270 00:12:53.129 --> 00:12:55.789 Italian line, and they're really trying to roll out to 271 00:12:55.830 --> 00:13:01.289 the American market. But, you know, for people that are 272 00:13:01.330 --> 00:13:04.169 on a budget, maybe a young family, want to take 273 00:13:04.210 --> 00:13:06.149 a vacation, perfect. 274 00:13:06.610 --> 00:13:09.289 I mean, what's to look for? It's not just pricing. 275 00:13:09.429 --> 00:13:12.009 It's just who you are, what you like to do. 276 00:13:12.799 --> 00:13:16.139 Well, there's something

for everybody. If you want to just 277 00:13:16.259 --> 00:13:19.639 sit by the pool and read a book for seven days... 278 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:23.259 You've got that. If you want to have nonstop activities, 279 00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:28.720 and I mean truly nonstop, that's definitely the place for you. 280 00:13:29.100 --> 00:13:34.049 Every day you get a newsletter, and it explains what 281 00:13:34.090 --> 00:13:36.549 the next day's activities are. And I would take a 282 00:13:36.590 --> 00:13:39.850 highlighter or a pen, and I would underline everything that 283 00:13:39.889 --> 00:13:42.990 I wanted to do. And unfortunately, there weren't enough hours 284 00:13:43.049 --> 00:13:47.509 in the day to do it all. So, yeah, you 285 00:13:47.549 --> 00:13:50.149 can have it as romantic as you want. It could 286 00:13:50.190 --> 00:13:54.750 be family oriented. There's something geared for every passenger. 287 00:13:55.769 --> 00:13:58.289 And that's our job. That's our job, too, is, you know, 288 00:13:58.309 --> 00:14:00.169 you kind of find out when you're talking to people 289 00:14:00.250 --> 00:14:03.720 what they want out of their vacation. So we've gotten 290 00:14:04.029 --> 00:14:06.259 pretty good or I've gotten pretty good at matching up. 291 00:14:06.259 --> 00:14:07.559 Do most people know exactly what they want? 292 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:07.980 No. No. 293 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:08.059 No. 294 00:14:09.700 --> 00:14:09.840 No. 295 00:14:10.700 --> 00:14:13.419 We have to draw them out and ask questions. 296 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:16.019 They think they know what they want, and then you 297 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:19.539 start talking to them, and they just really didn't realize 298 00:14:19.600 --> 00:14:21.340 that that's really not what they wanted. 299 00:14:21.360 --> 00:14:23.259 There's a lot of variables. Some people, if they have 300 00:14:23.299 --> 00:14:27.899 mobility problems, that's one issue. It limits what you want 301 00:14:27.919 --> 00:14:28.590 to see and do. 302 00:14:28.610 --> 00:14:29.590 That's true. 303 00:14:29.919 --> 00:14:31.950 One thing about the ships, but I have a problem 304 00:14:31.970 --> 00:14:33.990 with my knee, and I actually got a scooter, but 305 00:14:34.009 --> 00:14:36.269 they were very nice on board. They were going on 306 00:14:36.309 --> 00:14:38.409 and off the ramps and everything. They helped me down, 307 00:14:38.470 --> 00:14:40.399 and they were very good about that, but There's a 308 00:14:40.419 --> 00:14:43.860 lot of accommodations for people in wheelchairs and disabled people, 309 00:14:44.299 --> 00:14:46.360 which was good to see. They have rooms there for disabled. 310 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:49.230 And also, I'm reading, too, that a lot of ships 311 00:14:49.289 --> 00:14:51.809 are starting more single rooms for single people. 312 00:14:52.509 --> 00:14:53.850 They are starting to do that. 313 00:14:53.929 --> 00:14:55.570 That's about time. Yes. 314 00:14:55.710 --> 00:15:00.889 Norwegian has been the leader in that market. And they 315 00:15:00.929 --> 00:15:03.820 even have, like, a whole, I can't remember what it's called. 316 00:15:06.220 --> 00:15:10.389 It's just like a whole section of the ship that 317 00:15:10.470 --> 00:15:14.309 is for solo travelers. And that's kind of nice because, 318 00:15:14.350 --> 00:15:16.970 you know, you have your own little gathering area. 319 00:15:17.049 --> 00:15:20.139 Is the room half-priced? 320 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:24.200 Not quite half-priced. Yeah, not quite half, but it is less. 321 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:27.740 I felt like it's kind of bad for people who 322 00:15:27.779 --> 00:15:30.179 don't have a lot of money when they charge an 323 00:15:30.450 --> 00:15:33.129 occupancy for two. And I thought, no, that's not fair. 324 00:15:33.429 --> 00:15:33.789 I don't know. 325 00:15:33.809 --> 00:15:37.960 It's... Well, they have a lot of programs, meetings, and 326 00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:42.830 classes for solo travelers. The world cruise that we'll be 327 00:15:42.870 --> 00:15:47.529 talking about later, it was a 111-day cruise. I went 328 00:15:47.730 --> 00:15:52.529 on without my husband, and I was never alone. In fact, 329 00:15:52.669 --> 00:15:56.220 I met a lovely couple my very first day on 330 00:15:56.259 --> 00:16:00.649 the cruise. I like to play trivia. And I went 331 00:16:00.690 --> 00:16:03.370 into the lounge area, and there's a couple sitting there. 332 00:16:03.429 --> 00:16:05.490 And I said, do you need someone else on your team? 333 00:16:05.590 --> 00:16:09.820 And they said, absolutely. And we've been very close friends 334 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:10.580 ever since. 335 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:11.679 Yeah, you meet a lot of people there. 336 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:12.799 Oh, yeah. 337 00:16:12.820 --> 00:16:13.799 Some nice people, too. 338 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:14.039 Yeah. 339 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:21.100 So even if you're... board the ship alone, you're never 340 00:16:21.139 --> 00:16:21.860 going to be alone. 341 00:16:22.100 --> 00:16:23.240 That's for sure, unless you want to be. 342 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:25.019 Unless you want to be, and that's your choice. 343 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:25.220 Right. 344 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:26.759 You're listening to the Let's Sign Out show right here 345 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:31.909 on KCAA, AM 1050 and 106.5 FM, the stations that 346 00:16:31.929 --> 00:16:34.750 leave no listener behind. And we have two special guests 347 00:16:34.889 --> 00:16:38.409 on travel, but especially with cruising. One is Betsy Weber 348 00:16:39.149 --> 00:16:41.870 and Marlis Abali from Connection to Cruise right here in Redlands. 349 00:16:41.909 --> 00:16:43.690 And why don't you give your website out, Marlis? 350 00:16:44.429 --> 00:16:50.360 It's ConnectionToCruise.com, and there's no numbers, and it's singular, so 351 00:16:50.389 --> 00:16:56.799 it's not ConnectionsToCruises. It's

ConnectionToCruise.com. Do you have a phone number? 352 00:16:57.019 --> 00:16:57.360 Yeah, everything. 353 00:16:57.519 --> 00:16:58.740 Phone number is 909-798-9133, and toll-free is 888-798-9133. And you 354 00:16:58.759 --> 00:17:00.779 can call that number and reach me or Betsy or. 355 00:17:13.549 --> 00:17:15.190 They're there to help you. That's amazing. 356 00:17:15.410 --> 00:17:19.349 And can I add, even though we're talking about cruises 357 00:17:19.509 --> 00:17:23.710 specifically today and the name is Connection to Cruise, Marlis 358 00:17:24.630 --> 00:17:28.630 is absolutely an expert in all forms of travel. I 359 00:17:28.690 --> 00:17:32.930 specialize in cruising, but she is the person to go 360 00:17:32.990 --> 00:17:34.049 to for any kind of travel. 361 00:17:34.069 --> 00:17:36.410 Thank you for reminding me of that, but yes. 362 00:17:37.170 --> 00:17:39.009 How long have you been in the travel business, Marlis? 363 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:45.180 I hate to say, but I would think 40 years. 364 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:47.240 Yeah, she started when she was three years old. 365 00:17:47.259 --> 00:17:50.000 I was going to say, yeah. 366 00:17:50.019 --> 00:17:54.279 So, no, we're doing the pickleball trips, and I do 367 00:17:54.440 --> 00:17:55.759 destination weddings. 368 00:17:55.940 --> 00:17:56.960 River cruises. 369 00:17:57.420 --> 00:17:58.440 Lots of river cruises. 370 00:17:58.460 --> 00:18:00.730 What's big right now? Is there any one trend? I 371 00:18:00.769 --> 00:18:06.660 know physicalness, hiking, and... There's a lot of exploration. I mean, 372 00:18:06.680 --> 00:18:08.480 there's all kinds of, if you like sports, if you 373 00:18:08.500 --> 00:18:10.980 like eating, if you like, it's pretty much whatever you like. 374 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:13.160 That's true. There's something for it. 375 00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:17.359 That's why a travel advisor is so key, because they'll 376 00:18:17.420 --> 00:18:20.650 talk to you about what your interests are, and then 377 00:18:20.690 --> 00:18:25.390 they'll customize a trip that is going to give you 378 00:18:25.470 --> 00:18:26.710 the best bang for your buck. 379 00:18:27.390 --> 00:18:33.230 Yeah, and I think, not adventure travel, but the, I can't, 380 00:18:34.900 --> 00:18:42.490 Unless it's a senior moment. Don't we all? Oh, not expedition. 381 00:18:42.769 --> 00:18:47.170 Expedition travel has gotten huge with these small ships. Because 382 00:18:47.390 --> 00:18:49.549 after COVID, a lot of people didn't want to do 383 00:18:49.589 --> 00:18:53.529 a big ship. So river cruising has gotten very popular. 384 00:18:53.529 --> 00:18:59.230 14 days across Europe, river cruises. I mean, they sell out. 385 00:19:00.859 --> 00:19:07.819 And these expedition cruises, Iceland... the Arctic, some. 386 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:12.240 Really exotic things. It seems like they're more popular now 387 00:19:12.279 --> 00:19:14.039 than they have been. Oh, yeah. Yes. 388 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:16.460 And what's so nice about cruising, I mean, you could 389 00:19:16.480 --> 00:19:18.269 do a great trip to Europe, but, you know, you 390 00:19:18.289 --> 00:19:20.640 get on a river cruise ship or. 391 00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:26.839 Sailing vessel and you don't you only pack and unpack 392 00:19:26.980 --> 00:19:29.640 once that's it so you're not you know putting your 393 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:32.500 luggage out at seven o'clock in the morning and then 394 00:19:32.980 --> 00:19:35.180 you know having to do it every. 395 00:19:34.980 --> 00:19:37.690 Day run to catch a flight or a train. 396 00:19:37.329 --> 00:19:39.589 And they've got everything is he was not feeling well 397 00:19:39.609 --> 00:19:41.869 they have a doctor on board yes down there and 398 00:19:41.930 --> 00:19:44.190 they've taken care of her and they do your laundry 399 00:19:44.210 --> 00:19:46.349 if you want and everything's got a little charge to 400 00:19:46.410 --> 00:19:50.230 it but it's very affordable. I mean every cruise is 401 00:19:50.299 --> 00:19:53.680 a different, every line is different in terms of how 402 00:19:53.700 --> 00:19:55.940 much you want to spend. Yeah, it's a different personality. 403 00:19:55.960 --> 00:19:59.880 There's high-end cruises to low-end party boats and stuff. There's 404 00:19:59.900 --> 00:20:01.619 nothing wrong with it. If that's what you want, then 405 00:20:01.740 --> 00:20:02.369 that's what you get. 406 00:20:02.420 --> 00:20:04.359 It's like hotels. It's like if you want to stay 407 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:05.819 at the Ritz or you want to stay at the 408 00:20:05.859 --> 00:20:08.519 Hyatt or you want to stay at the Best Western. 409 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:08.759 Motel 3. 410 00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:08.900 Yeah. 411 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:12.789 So it's just matching the right person to the right ship. 412 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:13.240 Right. 413 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:22.180 I think you're right about the adventure tours and the expeditions. 414 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:25.299 I have a friend that I met on the world 415 00:20:25.339 --> 00:20:32.369 tour that is just finishing up her Antarctica expedition where 416 00:20:32.490 --> 00:20:35.700 they would. take them on... What do you call the... 417 00:20:35.920 --> 00:20:39.700 They're not lifeboats, but those... Zodiacs. Zodiacs, exactly. 418 00:20:39.920 --> 00:20:40.900 Oh, Galapagos. 419 00:20:41.140 --> 00:20:45.220 They would take them on the Zodiacs onto this iceberg, 420 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:48.759 and they would follow these penguins everywhere. It was just 421 00:20:49.460 --> 00:20:52.240 absolutely amazing. Once in a lifetime. 422 00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:56.140 That's one of the things. Celebrity has the most beautiful 423 00:20:56.180 --> 00:20:59.470 ships in the Galapagos that does these expedition cruises. And 424 00:20:59.509 --> 00:21:03.170 I mean... It's all included. I mean, everything you do, 425 00:21:03.269 -->

00:21:06.910 once you, you know, book it, the air, they include 426 00:21:06.930 --> 00:21:09.950 the air, they include all the expeditions. 427 00:21:09.970 --> 00:21:12.589 Side trips and everything, wow. Everything. Can't beat that. I 428 00:21:13.190 --> 00:21:14.650 want to put both of you on the spot here. 429 00:21:14.890 --> 00:21:16.829 In terms of Martin's, what's your favorite? Is there any 430 00:21:16.970 --> 00:21:21.670 one city, one travel country that just blew you away 431 00:21:21.710 --> 00:21:23.259 and you want to go back and more and more to? 432 00:21:25.460 --> 00:21:28.269 Well, oh God, people ask me that all the time 433 00:21:28.309 --> 00:21:34.000 and it's really, really hard. But because I absolutely love Tahiti, 434 00:21:35.220 --> 00:21:38.519 I think that I would go back there. It's just 435 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:45.680 so beautiful. I loved Lisbon, Portugal. I loved Portugal. I 436 00:21:45.700 --> 00:21:46.460 would go back there. 437 00:21:46.779 --> 00:21:47.140 Hungary? 438 00:21:48.339 --> 00:21:51.000 I like Hungary. I've been there many times. 439 00:21:51.059 --> 00:21:53.619 You still have your 10,000 pounds of paprika? 440 00:21:54.809 --> 00:21:56.529 I have quite a bit, but I've been giving it 441 00:21:56.589 --> 00:22:00.309 away as gifts. I bottle it up and give it away. Okay. 442 00:22:02.380 --> 00:22:04.859 It's almost gone, but I really need to use the 443 00:22:04.900 --> 00:22:06.700 rest of that up. I need to make some. 444 00:22:07.019 --> 00:22:07.579 Lots of chicken. 445 00:22:07.980 --> 00:22:10.480 Goulash or whatever they make. 446 00:22:10.519 --> 00:22:11.160 How about you, Betsy? 447 00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:17.150 Oh, that is difficult. I definitely had my preconceived idea 448 00:22:17.190 --> 00:22:20.390 of what would be my favorite. I'd always wanted to 449 00:22:20.430 --> 00:22:24.450 see Singapore. Love botanical gardens, and they have one of 450 00:22:24.470 --> 00:22:26.529 the best in the world. And so I was thrilled 451 00:22:26.569 --> 00:22:27.710 to be able to go there. 452 00:22:27.730 --> 00:22:27.809 But. 453 00:22:30.089 --> 00:22:32.950 I guess what comes to mind are the two cities 454 00:22:33.049 --> 00:22:37.180 that I knew nothing about. I had no preconceived notions. 455 00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:43.359 One of them was Minakuz in Oman. Yeah, who's ever 456 00:22:43.400 --> 00:22:48.859 heard of that, right? It was a beautiful crescent-shaped harbor 457 00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:53.460 similar to Avalon. In Catalina. But everything is white. The 458 00:22:53.500 --> 00:22:56.440 buildings are white. The people are dressed head to toe 459 00:22:56.500 --> 00:23:03.529 in white. Super, super friendly. Delicious food. Great shopping. They 460 00:23:03.589 --> 00:23:08.450 had three forts built right out. 461 00:23:08.390 --> 00:23:08.930 Of the rock. 462 00:23:10.109 --> 00:23:13.809 And you could tour them. And everything was accessible by foot. 463 00:23:14.250 -->

00:23:16.519 You didn't have to take an excursion. So that was 464 00:23:16.559 --> 00:23:21.460 a nice surprise. The other one was Montenegro. 465 00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:25.539 I've been there. You did that last August. Isn't it amazing? 466 00:23:25.619 --> 00:23:26.579 I totally forgot about that. 467 00:23:26.740 --> 00:23:29.440 And the day we went, it was very cold. And 468 00:23:29.539 --> 00:23:33.339 so you go in through a fjord. It kind of 469 00:23:33.380 --> 00:23:34.619 looked like Norway. 470 00:23:34.680 --> 00:23:34.900 Yes. 471 00:23:35.359 --> 00:23:38.380 And especially with the colder weather that day. But it's 472 00:23:38.500 --> 00:23:43.410 like being in a giant. Fairy tale. 473 00:23:43.589 --> 00:23:43.930 Yes. 474 00:23:44.130 --> 00:23:48.890 It was like a cuckoo clock. You walk along these 475 00:23:48.970 --> 00:23:52.289 cobblestone steps and every building looks like it's out of 476 00:23:52.349 --> 00:23:56.009 a cuckoo clock. There were even the chiming clock towers 477 00:23:56.450 --> 00:23:59.279 and cats. I'm a cat person, so it was okay 478 00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:02.960 for me, maybe not for everybody, but they love their cats. 479 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:07.180 They even have a museum dedicated just to cats and 480 00:24:07.220 --> 00:24:09.579 a little public park where you can sit on a 481 00:24:09.940 --> 00:24:12.009 park bench and a cat would come and sit on 482 00:24:12.049 --> 00:24:16.880 your lap and And, again, everything was very easily accessible. 483 00:24:16.920 --> 00:24:19.240 You could just walk and meander through the city and 484 00:24:19.299 --> 00:24:21.950 not get lost because everywhere you go, you end up 485 00:24:22.009 --> 00:24:23.569 pretty much back at the entrance. 486 00:24:23.609 --> 00:24:25.529 You know, when we were there, it was in August, 487 00:24:25.910 --> 00:24:29.650 and all of the mountainsides were on fire. Oh. It 488 00:24:29.710 --> 00:24:30.710 was just... Oh, no. 489 00:24:30.930 --> 00:24:31.150 It was. 490 00:24:32.349 --> 00:24:35.289 And they were like slow-burning fires. It looked like it 491 00:24:35.329 --> 00:24:37.990 was lava or something on the side of the mountains. 492 00:24:38.109 --> 00:24:40.910 But they had a bad fire season when we were there. 493 00:24:40.930 --> 00:24:43.779 It was still beautiful, but it was a little smoky day. 494 00:24:43.990 --> 00:24:45.539 There's a lot of fires all over the world. 495 00:24:45.819 --> 00:24:48.079 Yeah, that was last year. You mentioned tours. 496 00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:50.380 We mentioned a little bit. There's a lot of different 497 00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:54.099 ways to tour. You can book them on cruise. We 498 00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:57.009 went through local tours. Tours by locals. Tours by locals, 499 00:24:57.450 --> 00:25:01.339 which we had fantastic tours. experiences with about four ones. 500 00:25:01.420 --> 00:25:03.539 I guess we did four of them. And what's nice, 501 00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:05.900 you could read about each one. They, you know, they 502 00:25:05.940 --> 00:25:09.519 all speak English and they let you know, basically, um, 503 00:25:09.579 --> 00:25:12.180 some of them don't have a, they're, they're not drivers. 504 00:25:12.220 --> 00:25:14.329 So you have to rent a car, but it's still, 505 00:25:14.349 --> 00:25:16.690 I think a little bit more than you would book 506 00:25:16.710 --> 00:25:20.089 them through a big company. And What's nice about them 507 00:25:20.230 --> 00:25:22.279 is if you just want to go eat, they'll take 508 00:25:22.299 --> 00:25:23.990 you to every restaurant there. If you want to see 509 00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:26.019 nothing but churches, they'll do that. If you want to 510 00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:29.200 do nothing but shopping, they'll do that. They really cater 511 00:25:29.240 --> 00:25:31.500 to you. And that's what I think makes it so 512 00:25:31.539 --> 00:25:36.079 good because it's feeding into your interests. Yes. Nothing worse 513 00:25:36.099 --> 00:25:38.359 than going to a place that, you know, no offense 514 00:25:38.460 --> 00:25:41.140 to scenery. I love scenery. But a waterfall is a waterfall. 515 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:42.500 How many different waterfalls can you see? 516 00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:45.140 Now, did you find that on your own? Did you 517 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:46.440 research that on your own? 518 00:25:46.460 --> 00:25:47.380 I think Izzy did. Yeah. 519 00:25:47.619 --> 00:25:49.640 But. We book tours by locals. 520 00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:50.220 Okay. 521 00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:53.240 So we have, you know, we can book that for you. 522 00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:58.250 Fantastic. Plus, you have insurance in case it cancels. But 523 00:25:58.450 --> 00:26:00.970 if you don't cancel, they put some of that money 524 00:26:01.029 --> 00:26:03.710 that you put down as a deposit, they bring it 525 00:26:03.750 --> 00:26:05.230 back to you and take it off your bill. 526 00:26:05.309 --> 00:26:05.630 Wow. 527 00:26:06.109 --> 00:26:08.390 So we were like, whoa, is that nice? But we've 528 00:26:08.430 --> 00:26:11.369 had really, really good luck with that. They're all bonded. 529 00:26:11.390 --> 00:26:14.109 They're all trained people. I mean, it's not just anybody, oh, 530 00:26:14.170 --> 00:26:16.690 I want to become a tour guide. No, because we thought, 531 00:26:16.710 --> 00:26:18.210 you know, they can tell us anything. We don't know. 532 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:20.700 But they have to really know their stuff. They have 533 00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:23.160 to go to school for it and get a certificate. 534 00:26:23.180 --> 00:26:24.660 And if they don't, they don't get licensed. 535 00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:27.900 Yeah. And I've heard really good things about them. I 536 00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:32.660 have not booked them, even though I know I can 537 00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:34.980 book them. So it's really great for me to hear 538 00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:38.480 you

say that because now I'm much more confident in 539 00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:39.779 recommending that. 540 00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:40.400 Oh, yeah. 541 00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:44.140 And them and their guides. Because they have a whole 542 00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:46.660 profile of all their guides and you can chat with them. 543 00:26:47.220 --> 00:26:49.200 throughout the whole process, and they do a fabulous job. 544 00:26:49.299 --> 00:26:52.240 And they're really nice people. I mean, they're very, there's 545 00:26:52.259 --> 00:26:53.700 a lot of pride in their country. 546 00:26:54.039 --> 00:26:54.220 Yes. 547 00:26:54.319 --> 00:26:57.059 I mean, every one of them, they're just, they're so 548 00:26:57.140 --> 00:26:59.069 happy to be able to talk about their country. It's 549 00:26:59.089 --> 00:27:02.329 not just, you know, wrote and who cares, you know, 550 00:27:02.529 --> 00:27:04.890 we just talk and everything. They really care, and they 551 00:27:04.910 --> 00:27:07.150 give a lot of insight, and a lot of them 552 00:27:07.190 --> 00:27:09.589 go out of their way for things that they weren't 553 00:27:09.630 --> 00:27:12.730 planning on, But they know, hey, you know, you said 554 00:27:12.750 --> 00:27:14.029 you like this. I'm going to take you here. 555 00:27:15.069 --> 00:27:19.990 I had a similar experience when we were in Aqaba, Jordan. 556 00:27:20.589 --> 00:27:23.710 We wanted to go to Petra. And the ship has 557 00:27:24.009 --> 00:27:26.490 an excursion with a bus full of people that you 558 00:27:26.509 --> 00:27:30.359 could go together. But I really like private tours. And 559 00:27:30.710 --> 00:27:34.519 I booked it through Viator. It was actually less expensive. 560 00:27:35.220 --> 00:27:40.880 Had a driver, a local driver. who, he was playing 561 00:27:40.930 --> 00:27:45.519 the radio, and I was, I was saying, I said, wow, 562 00:27:45.579 --> 00:27:48.960 your music sounds a lot like music they play in Jamaica, 563 00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:54.769 and it, it was, that was kind of funny, but anyway, 564 00:27:55.309 --> 00:27:59.170 after he took us to Petra, and everything was already pre-arranged, 565 00:27:59.210 --> 00:28:02.490 he took us to a restaurant that was already paid for, 566 00:28:02.509 --> 00:28:05.970 it was all, you know, included, anyway, when we finished, 567 00:28:06.509 --> 00:28:09.230 We were going back to Aqaba, and we had quite 568 00:28:09.250 --> 00:28:12.049 a bit of extra time. And my son had asked 569 00:28:12.089 --> 00:28:15.569 me to bring him back some tea. The tea from 570 00:28:15.650 --> 00:28:19.279 Jordan is particularly good. And so I asked our driver, 571 00:28:19.299 --> 00:28:21.740 do you know of any tea shops? He goes, yes, 572 00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:24.200 I do. And he was so proud. His friend owned 573 00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:26.460 the shop. And we went in, and he had his 574 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:30.589 own proprietary blend of five different spices. And he gave 575 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:34.029 us a sample in these little glass cups. And it 576 00:28:34.089 --> 00:28:37.490 was just delicious. And I said, oh. I'd like to 577 00:28:37.829 --> 00:28:40.109 get some of these glass cups. Where can I get these? 578 00:28:40.190 --> 00:28:42.910 And he goes, oh, these belong to my great grandfather. 579 00:28:42.930 --> 00:28:46.490 And I'm like shaking my hand, handing it back to him. 580 00:28:47.390 --> 00:28:50.420 But anyway, we got back in the car and the 581 00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:52.559 driver says, I think I know where I can get some. 582 00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:56.500 And he drove and he says, just stay in the car. 583 00:28:56.980 --> 00:28:58.799 He goes in. He says, let me first see if 584 00:28:58.819 --> 00:29:01.509 they even have them. He comes out. He hands me 585 00:29:01.589 --> 00:29:03.690 a package. He says, here, I bought these. These are 586 00:29:03.730 --> 00:29:07.930 for you. I mean, really, really wonderful experiences. 587 00:29:07.970 --> 00:29:12.130 That's the joys of traveling. There's so many different things. 588 00:29:11.910 --> 00:29:14.079 That come unexpected. The people of the countries, they really 589 00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:20.240 love Americans. They love tourists. Vietnam, Thailand, Singapore, Hong Kong, 590 00:29:20.500 --> 00:29:23.900 they love us. They're just amazing. The nicest people, friendly 591 00:29:23.970 --> 00:29:24.390 as can be. 592 00:29:24.670 --> 00:29:25.029 Absolutely. 593 00:29:25.049 --> 00:29:26.690 Instead of telling us, you know, how do you get 594 00:29:26.730 --> 00:29:29.329 to here? Go down a block, three, make a right, 11. 595 00:29:29.329 --> 00:29:30.069 They took us there. 596 00:29:30.529 --> 00:29:31.150 Yes. 597 00:29:31.230 --> 00:29:32.750 And it could be like an hour away. They took 598 00:29:32.789 --> 00:29:33.089 us there. 599 00:29:33.250 --> 00:29:33.490 Yes. 600 00:29:34.049 --> 00:29:34.930 And I, maybe not an hour. 601 00:29:34.950 --> 00:29:37.109 Had the same thing happen to us in Hong Kong. 602 00:29:37.369 --> 00:29:41.109 But it's a really nice, thing, you know, very accommodating. 603 00:29:41.210 --> 00:29:45.259 We hired a driver in Thailand. And when he took 604 00:29:45.339 --> 00:29:48.400 us to this restaurant that my son had recommended, we 605 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:51.680 actually invited him to have lunch with us. And he 606 00:29:51.740 --> 00:29:55.150 made it even that much more special. He was our 607 00:29:55.210 --> 00:29:58.950 friend for the day. It was a wonderful experience. 608 00:29:59.109 --> 00:30:01.410 Yeah, we had the same experience in Hong Kong and Macau, 609 00:30:01.470 --> 00:30:06.130 but pretty much everywhere. So in terms of food, let's 610 00:30:06.150 --> 00:30:06.589 talk food. 611 00:30:06.789 --> 00:30:07.609 Oh, food. 612 00:30:07.670 --> 00:30:08.789 Yeah, you're all foodies here. 613 00:30:08.990 --> 00:30:09.390 Oh, yeah. 614 00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:12.720 Everyone, I don't

know how other ships are, but like 615 00:30:13.859 --> 00:30:18.539 on Celebrity, we upgraded to the blue section where we 616 00:30:18.579 --> 00:30:20.000 had blue, what do you call it? 617 00:30:20.140 --> 00:30:20.380 Aqua. 618 00:30:20.400 --> 00:30:20.940 Aqua class. 619 00:30:21.180 --> 00:30:24.000 And we did it blue, but we also asked for 620 00:30:24.180 --> 00:30:26.039 menus from the other dining rooms, and they gave it 621 00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:26.339 to us. 622 00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:26.920 Sure. 623 00:30:26.980 --> 00:30:29.359 So it's not just blue. You also get the other 624 00:30:29.380 --> 00:30:32.359 dining room menus. I don't know if the other, one 625 00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:34.369 thing when you're on a cruise, don't be afraid to ask. 626 00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:34.900 Absolutely. 627 00:30:34.980 --> 00:30:38.029 They're there to please you. They can't, it's not always 628 00:30:38.049 --> 00:30:41.059 their fault for things that happen. You know, most of 629 00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:43.500 the staff are really nice. We had some issues, but 630 00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:45.779 it wasn't with the staff. It was just with, you know, 631 00:30:45.859 --> 00:30:46.319 other things. 632 00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:47.220 Right. 633 00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:50.460 And if you don't like something that you expected it 634 00:30:50.539 --> 00:30:52.660 to be one way and it came out another or 635 00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:53.859 it's not cooked or. 636 00:30:53.940 --> 00:30:54.450 I've ordered two. 637 00:30:54.460 --> 00:30:57.960 And you just say, you know, I really don't particularly 638 00:30:58.000 --> 00:30:59.920 care for this. And they're like, oh, what else. 639 00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:00.359 Can we get you? 640 00:31:00.380 --> 00:31:02.589 Yeah, we'll bring you something else. We'll bring you something else. Yeah. 641 00:31:02.619 --> 00:31:03.660 No problem. 642 00:31:03.700 --> 00:31:03.829 The. 643 00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:09.089 There are several restaurants on board each ship that are 644 00:31:09.220 --> 00:31:13.289 included in the price of your fare. They do have 645 00:31:13.349 --> 00:31:19.630 specialty restaurants that have an upcharge. But they really cater 646 00:31:19.670 --> 00:31:26.740 to everybody. They've got kosher menus, vegan, gluten-free, vegan. We 647 00:31:26.829 --> 00:31:30.730 had waiters from different parts of the world that would 648 00:31:30.809 --> 00:31:34.190 bring us appetizers that they made themselves. 649 00:31:34.329 --> 00:31:35.009 Oh, really? 650 00:31:35.029 --> 00:31:41.609 Wow. I had the most incredible appetizers from the Philippines, 651 00:31:41.690 --> 00:31:45.670 some kind of fried onion with a mint sauce, of 652 00:31:45.750 --> 00:31:46.369 all things. 653 00:31:46.650 --> 00:31:47.170 Oh, yum. 654 00:31:47.369 --> 00:31:49.549 It was really good. He showed me the jar of 655 00:31:49.650 --> 00:31:51.950 mint sauce. As soon as I got home, I ordered 656 00:31:51.970 --> 00:31:56.180

one from Amazon, and I use it on everything. It's delicious. 657 00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:02.240 I think one of my best dinners was on Celebrity Apex. 658 00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:07.000 And it was an upcharge. And it wasn't an inexpensive upcharge. 659 00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:12.539 I believe it was like maybe $ 60 a person. And 660 00:32:12.579 --> 00:32:17.019 that was in Eden. And I think you remember going 661 00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:17.920 there when you. 662 00:32:17.849 --> 00:32:19.420 Were on the cruise ship. Oh, it's beautiful. It's a 663 00:32:19.569 --> 00:32:20.180 giant atrium. 664 00:32:20.650 --> 00:32:23.890 Oh, my gosh. It's just this beautiful atrium. And they had... 665 00:32:24.339 --> 00:32:29.220 you know, some entertainment playing in the background and sitting 666 00:32:29.259 --> 00:32:31.299 at the back of the ship and you're looking out 667 00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:35.720 at the ocean. Oh, those white views. And, I mean, 668 00:32:35.779 --> 00:32:39.740 the food just kept coming and it was amazing. 669 00:32:39.940 --> 00:32:40.680 Yeah, no. 670 00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:43.240 And I couldn't tell you, I wish I could remember 671 00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:45.960 what we had. I should bring, you know, I take. 672 00:32:45.819 --> 00:32:48.920 Pictures of it. 45,000 meals ago. Yes. Le Petit Chef 673 00:32:48.980 --> 00:32:49.599 is my favorite. 674 00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:50.579 Oh, that's so fun. 675 00:32:50.740 --> 00:32:54.480 That is so clever and it's kind of a, animated, 676 00:32:54.500 --> 00:32:59.869 AI-generated chef and his family, and they cook, and they actually, 677 00:32:59.930 --> 00:33:02.029 it's real tiny on a plate. They're playing around. 678 00:33:02.049 --> 00:33:03.930 They leave their little footprints. 679 00:33:04.069 --> 00:33:04.829 Yeah, I mean, it's amazing. 680 00:33:04.890 --> 00:33:05.630 On their table. 681 00:33:05.650 --> 00:33:07.569 And they flip the food on making a plate for you, 682 00:33:07.849 --> 00:33:09.450 and then all of a sudden the plate comes looking 683 00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:10.210 pretty much like it. 684 00:33:10.380 --> 00:33:10.619 Yeah. 685 00:33:10.740 --> 00:33:12.160 But it was very, very good. They gave you two 686 00:33:12.180 --> 00:33:13.420 different menus you could choose from. 687 00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:14.890 Yeah, it's hard to imagine how. 688 00:33:17.059 --> 00:33:17.880 To describe that. 689 00:33:18.099 --> 00:33:20.299 No, I can't. When I first saw that, the way 690 00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:22.930 they marketed it, it was like your family would love it. 691 00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.619 I thought they had it for kids. It's not. Trust me. 692 00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:27.789 The kids would go nuts over it, but mostly the 693 00:33:27.829 --> 00:33:30.890 adults and everything. But, you know, it's one of the joys, too, 694 00:33:30.970 --> 00:33:33.089 is not only on the ship, but also going to 695 00:33:33.109 --> 00:33:36.230 the ports and trying food. It's disgusting when I know 696 00:33:36.269 --> 00:33:39.609 people who go, went to China and ate nothing but McDonald's. 697 00:33:40.130 --> 00:33:42.789 Oh, that was so sad. I had jellyfish, too. 698 00:33:42.849 --> 00:33:44.829 I was afraid to try it. I'm like, oh, come on. 699 00:33:45.369 --> 00:33:47.829 I mean, but that's important to try things. You may 700 00:33:47.849 --> 00:33:50.170 not like it, but try it. We had stingray. I 701 00:33:50.210 --> 00:33:51.519 never had stingray. It was like fish. 702 00:33:51.619 --> 00:33:56.299 Did you hear what I just said? I said jellyfish soup. 703 00:33:57.039 --> 00:33:58.880 We were the only two. George and I were the 704 00:33:59.059 --> 00:34:01.619 only two. It's a big tureen on the table. We 705 00:34:01.660 --> 00:34:04.119 were the only two who were brave enough to do it. 706 00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:04.619 Do you like it? 707 00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:05.759 No. 708 00:34:06.059 --> 00:34:06.279 Okay. 709 00:34:06.740 --> 00:34:07.349 But you tried it. 710 00:34:07.779 --> 00:34:11.849 I tried snake wine in Vietnam. Did you try any 711 00:34:11.889 --> 00:34:13.710 of this? No. They have this big jar of snakes. 712 00:34:13.730 --> 00:34:16.570 I've heard of that. in a big jar, and then 713 00:34:16.610 --> 00:34:20.389 the little spigot at the bottom, it's for virility, you know. 714 00:34:21.170 --> 00:34:22.829 And they say, you drink the snake wine and. 715 00:34:25.110 --> 00:34:28.300 That's okay. That's okay. If I ever work, this is good, 716 00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:28.940 I think. 717 00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:33.420 I had a favorite meal on that whole 111-day cruise. 718 00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:36.519 And it is hard to get off the ship and 719 00:34:36.579 --> 00:34:39.599 pay money for lunch or dinner when you've got all 720 00:34:39.619 --> 00:34:43.800 this delicious food already paid for on the ship. But 721 00:34:43.980 --> 00:34:49.920 in Melbourne... They've got a riverfront and went into this 722 00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:56.820 restaurant and had a Kobe beef carpaccio salad and my 723 00:34:56.880 --> 00:35:02.590 very first sticky toffee pudding with dates and ice cream 724 00:35:02.630 --> 00:35:06.369 for dessert. It was... I'll never forget that meal. It 725 00:35:06.409 --> 00:35:09.510 was amazing. The other one was. 726 00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:15.659 A private tour. Oh, this is what's really nice. I 727 00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:21.219 love Facebook. And you can reach out and get so 728 00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:26.619 much information. When you do book a cruise, there's usually 729 00:35:26.659 --> 00:35:31.139 a forum just for those specific cruise members, and they 730 00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:34.280 reach out to each other. They give each other tips, 731 00:35:34.619 --> 00:35:37.800 people who've traveled to that place before. Or in my case, 732 00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:44.880 there was a couple from Indiana, I believe, and they 733 00:35:44.980 --> 00:35:51.360 had booked a private

tour in Sicily. And they said 734 00:35:51.380 --> 00:35:53.769 they had space open for other people. And, of course, 735 00:35:53.829 --> 00:35:57.210 I joined up. It was wonderful. We got to go 736 00:35:57.230 --> 00:36:01.110 to do the Godfather tour. Oh, yeah. And so we 737 00:36:01.150 --> 00:36:07.579 went to the little village where Michael Corleone meets. He 738 00:36:07.659 --> 00:36:11.320 sees Apollonia and then he asks her father. for her 739 00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:13.679 hand in marriage, and I sat in that chair in 740 00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:15.199 front of the little tavern. 741 00:36:15.219 --> 00:36:18.500 It was a movie. Oh, I blew it. 742 00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:21.929 Oh, well, but it was a real location. It was 743 00:36:21.969 --> 00:36:24.329 a real location. And then walked up the hill to 744 00:36:24.369 --> 00:36:26.849 the church where they got married. I'm sorry. I thought 745 00:36:26.869 --> 00:36:27.809 it was super cool. 746 00:36:27.829 --> 00:36:32.300 It's like when you go to... Salzburg and do the 747 00:36:32.340 --> 00:36:33.099 whole Sound. 748 00:36:32.860 --> 00:36:37.960 Of Music thing. But still, it was very special. But 749 00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:40.699 we went to a winery. The main purpose of that 750 00:36:40.739 --> 00:36:45.599 tour was for the winery. And it was a small 751 00:36:46.019 --> 00:36:50.420 but very old exclusive winery. And we sat at this 752 00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:57.010 beautiful banquet table at a five-course meal, each paired with 753 00:36:57.070 --> 00:37:05.260 a specific wine for that dish. And it It opened with, oh, shoot, 754 00:37:05.420 --> 00:37:09.949 I can't think of what it's called. Raw salmon. 755 00:37:10.230 --> 00:37:10.469 Okay. 756 00:37:10.630 --> 00:37:11.409 Yeah. 757 00:37:11.469 --> 00:37:12.449 Gravelux. Gravelux. 758 00:37:12.710 --> 00:37:17.559 And it had lemon oil and fermented onions. Oh, my goodness. 759 00:37:17.699 --> 00:37:27.039 It was delightful. But she had had two or three 760 00:37:27.099 --> 00:37:31.840 glasses of wine. So that's the only course I remember. 761 00:37:32.030 --> 00:37:34.949 That's funny. But, you know, just there's so many great 762 00:37:34.989 --> 00:37:37.190 little restaurants. And if you tell the guide, whoever you 763 00:37:37.230 --> 00:37:40.309 go to, some tours, they say, well, you know, meals included. 764 00:37:40.329 --> 00:37:41.889 We had one in Mexico. It was like the worst. 765 00:37:42.090 --> 00:37:44.489 Taco Bell would have been better. I mean, it was 766 00:37:44.510 --> 00:37:46.610 the worst food. So I'm really down on, oh, we're 767 00:37:46.630 --> 00:37:48.909 going to have lunch included. Most of it's garbage, I think, 768 00:37:49.190 --> 00:37:51.659 in my opinion. However, when we went with the private ones, 769 00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:53.539 we told them what we liked. They took us to 770 00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:57.929 what we wanted and something really authentic. You want authentic? 771 00:37:57.969 --> 00:37:59.630 We'll give you authentic. You want Americanite? I mean, they 772 00:37:59.690 --> 00:38:00.050 asked us. 773 00:38:00.389 --> 00:38:00.789 Oh, yeah. 774 00:38:00.809 --> 00:38:03.150 And that really, really was good. So, again, I'm really 775 00:38:03.309 --> 00:38:06.230 pro-private tours. I just think it's a way to go. 776 00:38:06.230 --> 00:38:07.849 And it's not that much more expensive. It's not. 777 00:38:07.969 --> 00:38:10.860 Our first night in Bangkok, I had booked for our 778 00:38:10.900 --> 00:38:17.880 group a tuk-tuk food tour. So there's like... 16 of 779 00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:20.900 us all in little tuk-tuks that they took us all 780 00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:23.760 over Bangkok and stopped at all these little restaurants and 781 00:38:23.820 --> 00:38:26.599 tasted all this different food and took us to the 782 00:38:26.659 --> 00:38:32.079 market in Bangkok. It's just incredible what we did. We 783 00:38:32.099 --> 00:38:34.780 were exhausted because we had just flown in that morning. 784 00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:35.860 Why don't you talk about the traffic? 785 00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:37.320 Oh, yeah. 786 00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:39.300 Did they race each other, your tuk-tuk drivers? 787 00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:41.349 Well, the tuk-tuks are the best way to get around 788 00:38:41.389 --> 00:38:43.769 Bangkok or the water taxi, the boat. 789 00:38:43.789 --> 00:38:43.929 Right. 790 00:38:44.449 --> 00:38:44.710 But. 791 00:38:46.179 --> 00:38:49.599 It's crazy. It's like, it's mad. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah. 792 00:38:49.980 --> 00:38:52.800 Between motorcycles, I've never seen so many scooters in my life. 793 00:38:52.940 --> 00:38:54.059 And Vietnam, same way. 794 00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:54.699 Vietnam. 795 00:38:55.059 --> 00:38:57.219 Oh, my gosh. I've never seen so many motorcycles. 796 00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:01.300 Like 99% motorcycles. And they've in and out. They honk 797 00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:03.900 the horn right in front of you. But no accidents, nothing. 798 00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:04.719 Everyone gets along. 799 00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:07.670 I will never forget standing on a corner in Vietnam 800 00:39:07.710 --> 00:39:10.909 in Ho Chi Minh City. And I see this motorcycle 801 00:39:10.969 --> 00:39:14.880 coming down the street. And he... It's a florist, and 802 00:39:14.980 --> 00:39:20.460 he's piled all around him high with flowers. I mean, 803 00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:23.369 he just, I don't even, he could barely see over 804 00:39:23.409 --> 00:39:24.849 the top of his bouquet. 805 00:39:24.889 --> 00:39:27.849 We saw that with a garment area shopping. They cut 806 00:39:27.989 --> 00:39:31.099 big packaged, and they carry like. three or four behind them. 807 00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:31.679 Oh, yeah. 808 00:39:31.820 --> 00:39:33.260 And it was like, oh, my goodness, how can they 809 00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:36.420 balance it? That's what I want to know. That's crazy. 810 00:39:36.960 -->

00:39:37.159 Yeah. 811 00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:41.960 In terms of cruising, in terms of, this is for Marla, 812 00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:45.730 I think, what would be the high-end cruises that you 813 00:39:45.769 --> 00:39:48.929 recommend versus, you know, let's talk about high-end to low-end. 814 00:39:49.570 --> 00:39:52.250 And low end means it's... Least expensive. 815 00:39:52.309 --> 00:39:52.510 Yeah. 816 00:39:52.809 --> 00:39:58.730 Yeah. Well, you know, the higher end cruises are the 817 00:39:58.809 --> 00:40:03.329 smaller ship cruises. But, you know, one of the cruises 818 00:40:03.449 --> 00:40:06.010 we love is Star Clipper Cruises, which you kind of 819 00:40:06.030 --> 00:40:08.619 get the best of both worlds. It's a small ship. 820 00:40:08.900 --> 00:40:16.159 It's a true sailing clipper ship with five sailing masts. 821 00:40:16.630 --> 00:40:20.510 and probably 140 people. And that's a reasonable price, but 822 00:40:20.550 --> 00:40:28.690 it's not super-duper luxurious. It's more adventurous. And then there's Azamara, Silversea, 823 00:40:30.469 --> 00:40:36.130 Windstars Yacht Cruises. So those would be the high end. Celebrity, 824 00:40:36.210 --> 00:40:41.300 I think, is just a little bit above, say, Princess 825 00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:46.320 and Holland America, and still... makes you feel especially if 826 00:40:46.340 --> 00:40:49.710 you do a suite on celebrity maybe pay for this 827 00:40:49.909 --> 00:40:53.230 a suite and then you're going to get the service 828 00:40:53.630 --> 00:40:57.980 of like silver sea or some of the other smaller 829 00:40:58.460 --> 00:41:02.300 lines and then You know, Carnival, MSC. 830 00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:07.320 For partying, if you're younger. Carnival's the party. Virgin. 831 00:41:07.420 --> 00:41:10.940 For sure. Virgin. Virgin Cruises, have you heard of them? 832 00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:11.400 Oh, yeah. 833 00:41:11.659 --> 00:41:15.460 So I have yet to book one, but I have 834 00:41:16.500 --> 00:41:19.030 talked to people that have cruised them, and for those 835 00:41:19.090 --> 00:41:23.449 people that like to party, Virgin is the. 836 00:41:23.809 --> 00:41:24.769 Is it adults only? 837 00:41:25.809 --> 00:41:26.730 Yes, I believe it is. 838 00:41:26.730 --> 00:41:26.929 Oh, really? 839 00:41:26.949 --> 00:41:27.570 Yes, it is. 840 00:41:27.590 --> 00:41:27.969 Okay. 841 00:41:29.150 --> 00:41:33.480 And on most of the larger cruise lines, for example, Princess, 842 00:41:34.340 --> 00:41:39.039 you can pay a different, they have different categories. Everything 843 00:41:39.139 --> 00:41:43.110 from a very roomy inside cabin, which I actually book 844 00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:45.909 quite often for myself. 845 00:41:46.090 --> 00:41:46.989 You're already in your room. 846 00:41:47.510 --> 00:41:49.610 I'm in the room to sleep and change my clothes. 847 00:41:49.789 --> 00:41:50.590 That's about it. 848 00:41:50.849 --> 00:41:51.829 I'm out there. 849 00:41:51.989 --> 00:41:53.329 You don't get claustrophobic? 850 00:41:54.050 --> 00:41:58.929 Normally I would. under certain circumstances, but those rooms, the 851 00:41:58.949 --> 00:42:01.010 way they're laid out, are very, very comfortable. 852 00:42:01.030 --> 00:42:02.110 They are very nice on Princess. 853 00:42:02.130 --> 00:42:05.650 They have a lot of light, mirrors that reflect the light. 854 00:42:07.340 --> 00:42:11.860 I have never experienced claustrophobia in those rooms. But anyway, 855 00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:14.699 you could start with something like an inside cabin all 856 00:42:14.739 --> 00:42:17.019 the way up to a presidential suite. 857 00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:17.400 Mm-hmm. 858 00:42:18.250 --> 00:42:21.010 So as far as price range, you could stay on 859 00:42:21.150 --> 00:42:26.010 one ship and you could pay any number of different categories. 860 00:42:26.550 --> 00:42:29.510 Yeah, you mentioned that there's a lot of myths, too, 861 00:42:29.550 --> 00:42:33.869 about cruising. I know one is seasick people who are. 862 00:42:34.389 --> 00:42:36.860 And I just found, I mean, I've been on one 863 00:42:36.929 --> 00:42:39.949 rough one in Alaska, the Insight. The passage was great. 864 00:42:40.050 --> 00:42:43.469 And the outside passage, it was rocking. It's one day. But, well, 865 00:42:43.530 --> 00:42:45.280 it was rolling like that. I mean, we were on 866 00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:48.619 like a 12th floor, 12th deck, and water was coming 867 00:42:48.659 --> 00:42:52.460 up there. Right. But we never felt, I've never gotten 868 00:42:52.500 --> 00:42:54.900 sick at all. My son went with me a couple times. 869 00:42:54.980 --> 00:42:56.679 I mean, most people I know have never gotten sick. 870 00:42:56.719 --> 00:43:00.579 So I think the new ships are very stable. I mean, 871 00:43:00.619 --> 00:43:02.699 it's a little rolling, but not enough, I don't think, 872 00:43:03.110 --> 00:43:04.030 to really upset you. 873 00:43:04.269 --> 00:43:08.670 Yeah, they're so huge. And they have these great stabilizers. 874 00:43:09.139 --> 00:43:14.500 that they can withstand some pretty big swells. It really 875 00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:19.920 feels like you're in just a big hotel. I don't 876 00:43:19.980 --> 00:43:21.280 feel the movement at all. 877 00:43:21.300 --> 00:43:23.039 I think a lot of people think when they get 878 00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:25.360 on a ship, they're getting on the Catalina Flyer. 879 00:43:25.739 --> 00:43:26.050 Oh, yeah. 880 00:43:26.070 --> 00:43:28.010 You know, and it's like, I get sick on the 881 00:43:28.050 --> 00:43:30.670 Catalina Flyer. So it's nothing like that. 882 00:43:30.690 --> 00:43:32.010 You're on ship to get pampered. 883 00:43:32.429 --> 00:43:32.590 Yeah. 884 00:43:32.630 --> 00:43:36.789 Pampered with food, pampered with drinks, pampered with smiles. I mean. 885 00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:39.619 And your bed is made every day, and your cabin 886 00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:42.460 is cleaned, and you get

little towel babies. The beds 887 00:43:42.579 --> 00:43:43.949 are so luxurious. 888 00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:46.590 And the staff, too, are so friendly, and they really 889 00:43:46.610 --> 00:43:48.230 appreciate it. They go out of their way for you. 890 00:43:48.269 --> 00:43:48.590 They do. 891 00:43:48.610 --> 00:43:51.110 Yeah, that's one thing I really appreciate. 892 00:43:51.130 --> 00:43:53.630 Yeah, a few little extra dollars every now and then 893 00:43:53.670 --> 00:43:55.409 goes a long way on a cruise. 894 00:43:55.429 --> 00:43:57.329 That's true. You're listening to Let's Sign Out Show right 895 00:43:57.369 --> 00:44:00.829 here on AM 1050 and 106.5 FM. The station will 896 00:44:00.849 --> 00:44:04.250 leave no listener behind. And we're talking about cruising and traveling, 897 00:44:04.329 --> 00:44:08.389 and with us is Betsy Webber. I can't remember the 898 00:44:08.550 --> 00:44:12.949 last name, and Martis Abali from Connection to Cruise. And 899 00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:16.420 in terms of specials, it seems like now a lot 900 00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:18.099 of specials are planning for next year, even 2026. 901 00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:25.239 Yes, I've actually, there's a very special cruise opening up 902 00:44:25.619 --> 00:44:31.369 this month for March of 2026. So I've already got 903 00:44:31.409 --> 00:44:33.949 my eyes for that. But the one thing that I 904 00:44:33.969 --> 00:44:39.739 would say regarding specials, I'm very particular about where I 905 00:44:39.980 --> 00:44:43.360 put myself and my clients on the ship. I think 906 00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:48.719 location is very important. As far as stability, you want 907 00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:52.460 to be midship, top to bottom, front to back. For 908 00:44:52.699 --> 00:44:56.360 ease of getting around, I like to be near the 909 00:44:56.739 --> 00:44:58.139 elevators or the stairs. 910 00:44:58.159 --> 00:44:59.320 And we were right next to it, yeah. 911 00:44:59.940 --> 00:45:04.139 And so that's important to me. So I say, once 912 00:45:04.179 --> 00:45:06.769 you know where and when and how much you want 913 00:45:06.789 --> 00:45:09.110 to spend on your trip, I just say book it 914 00:45:09.170 --> 00:45:12.920 right away. Here's the big advantage to using a travel advisor. 915 00:45:13.420 --> 00:45:17.489 If and when it goes on sale later on, your 916 00:45:17.530 --> 00:45:22.019 travel advisor can contact the cruise line and get the 917 00:45:22.059 --> 00:45:30.150 discount for you. They can re-book the fare and save 918 00:45:30.170 --> 00:45:33.889 you that money. So don't wait for that sale. There 919 00:45:33.969 --> 00:45:37.530 are sales that overlap sometimes, but I just say don't 920 00:45:37.570 --> 00:45:41.440 bother to wait for the sale. Just get your location secured. 921 00:45:42.710 --> 00:45:45.010 So what you're saying is if you book now and 922 00:45:45.510 --> 00:45:47.789 three weeks from now there's a sale, you can just 923 00:45:47.809

--> 00:45:51.449 go to your agent and say, hey, I want to get... Exactly. 924 00:45:51.489 --> 00:45:55.250 And we monitor that, too, for our clients. We monitor 925 00:45:55.429 --> 00:45:59.389 their reservations. So oftentimes before I make a final payment 926 00:45:59.429 --> 00:46:01.590 for a client, I will go in and double-check the 927 00:46:01.639 --> 00:46:03.780 price just to make sure that there's nothing that I 928 00:46:03.820 --> 00:46:06.699 missed or that came out. And I will add that 929 00:46:06.739 --> 00:46:09.849 this is what in the travel industry... Coming up is 930 00:46:09.869 --> 00:46:13.110 what they call wave season. So it's the first quarter. 931 00:46:13.170 --> 00:46:16.389 It's January, February, and March. And that's when you are 932 00:46:16.409 --> 00:46:19.610 going to find the best available offers that any cruise 933 00:46:19.630 --> 00:46:22.170 line is going to roll out for the year. So 934 00:46:22.230 --> 00:46:22.989 it's wave season. 935 00:46:23.489 --> 00:46:26.159 And, again, you can get insurances, different ones, medical insurance. 936 00:46:26.260 --> 00:46:28.340 You can get cancellation insurance. 937 00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:28.539 Yes. 938 00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:32.159 Heidi recommended that. It's happened to me, unfortunately, a couple times. 939 00:46:32.260 --> 00:46:34.659 And you've seen it all. I mean, you've seen people, 940 00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:35.539 you know. 941 00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:36.840 Seen it all. 942 00:46:36.860 --> 00:46:37.940 You've seen it all. What about that? 943 00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:38.039 Yeah. 944 00:46:38.340 --> 00:46:41.230 And if you do book it yourself, you're going to 945 00:46:41.269 --> 00:46:44.550 pay the same price, whether you use a travel advisor 946 00:46:44.670 --> 00:46:47.170 or do it on your own. But if it does 947 00:46:47.230 --> 00:46:51.030 go on sale, they may not give you that discount. 948 00:46:52.389 --> 00:46:57.820 So it's whereas your travel advisor can connect with the company. 949 00:46:57.860 --> 00:46:59.059 They've got the connections and yeah. 950 00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:01.199 So that really does make a big difference. 951 00:47:01.219 --> 00:47:04.760 And an example recently of a customer who couldn't reach 952 00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:07.860 me at a certain time, got a little anxious because 953 00:47:07.900 --> 00:47:12.500 the ticker was going on the sale, and so they 954 00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:18.230 booked it. And I was okay that they booked it 955 00:47:18.289 --> 00:47:21.010 because they could then release it to me and I 956 00:47:21.050 --> 00:47:23.469 could handle the reservation from there on out and they 957 00:47:23.510 --> 00:47:26.010 got their deal. But they didn't realize when they booked 958 00:47:26.309 --> 00:47:30.210 that their deposit that they put down was non-refundable. I 959 00:47:30.250 --> 00:47:32.300 had no clue. I said, well. 960 00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:34.860 That's why we go to an expert. 961

00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:36.659 That's why, you know, we're going to tell you all 962 00:47:36.699 --> 00:47:38.699 those things. There's very few times that I'm going to 963 00:47:38.739 --> 00:47:40.679 take a deposit where I'm not telling you that it's 964 00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:41.579 not refundable. 965 00:47:42.019 --> 00:47:42.679 Oh, definitely. 966 00:47:42.900 --> 00:47:44.619 Betsy, quickly, what are some of the do's? 967 00:47:45.530 --> 00:47:48.829 Oh, okay. Well, one of the things that I recommend is, 968 00:47:49.989 --> 00:47:52.860 first of all, for first-timers, if you don't realize it, 969 00:47:52.869 --> 00:47:55.190 when you get to the port, you leave your luggage 970 00:47:55.230 --> 00:47:58.659 with the porter. They stow it down in the bottom 971 00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:01.280 of the hull of the ship, and then they deliver 972 00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:04.719 your luggage to your room sometime that evening or that afternoon. 973 00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:08.309 So I always recommend to bring a small carry-on with 974 00:48:08.349 --> 00:48:10.769 your personal items, your medication. 975 00:48:10.789 --> 00:48:12.570 You never know when luggage will be lost. 976 00:48:13.070 --> 00:48:16.570 Yeah, I always have. Well, I've never seen it happen 977 00:48:16.849 --> 00:48:20.889 in 20 years, but it could happen. So You know, 978 00:48:20.909 --> 00:48:23.110 a change of clothes, a bathing suit. What if you 979 00:48:23.130 --> 00:48:25.789 want to go swimming your first day? So you want 980 00:48:25.809 --> 00:48:27.309 to definitely do that. 981 00:48:28.949 --> 00:48:29.789 Medications, too. 982 00:48:29.869 --> 00:48:36.070 Definitely your medications, your toiletries, et cetera. I also recommend 983 00:48:36.110 --> 00:48:40.480 that you check your daily schedule of activities. Don't ignore it. 984 00:48:40.510 --> 00:48:43.599 When they give you that schedule, go through it because 985 00:48:43.739 --> 00:48:47.739 there are some amazing opportunities. You might have always wanted 986 00:48:47.780 --> 00:48:51.510 to learn how to play bridge. or salsa dance, or 987 00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:57.079 see a special movie that they have movies under the stars. 988 00:48:57.179 --> 00:48:59.159 I don't know if you ever did that before, but 989 00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:03.280 that's a lot of fun. So definitely look at your 990 00:49:03.380 --> 00:49:05.840 schedule and plan it out the day before so you 991 00:49:05.889 --> 00:49:11.750 don't miss out on those great activities. And then the 992 00:49:11.789 --> 00:49:15.030 other thing is, you know, they have these professional photographers 993 00:49:15.210 --> 00:49:19.050 on board. that take your pictures everywhere you go. And 994 00:49:19.250 --> 00:49:22.389 it's free for the sitting is free. So why not 995 00:49:22.429 --> 00:49:25.300 take advantage of that? Especially if you're traveling with your family, 996 00:49:25.699 --> 00:49:28.639 you may never have an opportunity to have

a family portrait. 997 00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:30.559 And the price is right. 998 00:49:30.619 --> 00:49:30.780 Yeah. 999 00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:32.559 If you do decide to buy it, they're. 1000 00:49:32.460 --> 00:49:34.559 Very, very reasonable. We did it twice and we loved them. 1001 00:49:34.619 --> 00:49:34.780 Yep. 1002 00:49:35.550 --> 00:49:38.150 They have a green screen, so you're on a ship. 1003 00:49:38.190 --> 00:49:38.829 You're in Greece. 1004 00:49:38.929 --> 00:49:41.730 And I've even done my head shots. When I get 1005 00:49:41.750 --> 00:49:45.090 a new photo for a business card or something, it's like, well, 1006 00:49:45.110 --> 00:49:47.510 I might as well do it now because I'm not 1007 00:49:47.530 --> 00:49:48.429 going to do it when I get home. 1008 00:49:48.809 --> 00:49:50.389 Plus, they have specials, too. A lot of them, they 1009 00:49:50.449 --> 00:49:50.989 give you credit. 1010 00:49:51.309 --> 00:49:51.610 Oh, yeah. 1011 00:49:51.690 --> 00:49:54.849 They have all kinds of special packages. We did a really, 1012 00:49:54.929 --> 00:49:58.090 really lovely family portrait on our first cruise. Our son 1013 00:49:58.110 --> 00:50:01.409 was nine years old. And when he was 19, we 1014 00:50:01.469 --> 00:50:05.969 recreated the same pose. And we have the two pictures 1015 00:50:06.010 --> 00:50:11.619 side by side. So that's a really nice thing that 1016 00:50:11.659 --> 00:50:14.420 they do on board. And then we talked about it, too, 1017 00:50:14.460 --> 00:50:21.239 as far as being open. In some cities, if you 1018 00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:25.380 want to tour that particular port, the cruise line will 1019 00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:29.119 offer an excursion. It's a flat fee. You usually go 1020 00:50:29.260 --> 00:50:32.280 on a bus or a boat or a walking tour 1021 00:50:32.389 --> 00:50:37.250 with a group. and I would definitely recommend to read 1022 00:50:37.289 --> 00:50:42.670 the reviews. I have accepted certain excursions because of the reviews, 1023 00:50:42.730 --> 00:50:47.960 and I've rejected because of other negative reviews. But also 1024 00:50:48.940 --> 00:50:51.980 be open to talking with other passengers who've maybe been 1025 00:50:52.019 --> 00:50:54.179 there before, and they might say, you know what, you 1026 00:50:54.219 --> 00:50:56.400 could tour the city on foot and you'll have a 1027 00:50:56.579 --> 00:51:01.849 wonderful time, and here's a restaurant two blocks down I recommend. or, again, 1028 00:51:02.010 --> 00:51:06.030 using a company like Viator or the tour group that 1029 00:51:06.090 --> 00:51:10.780 you used in Singapore. So just be open and be flexible, 1030 00:51:11.179 --> 00:51:14.260 and it's your vacation. It's your time to have fun. 1031 00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:16.400 Basically, be in charge. 1032 00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:18.039 Yes, yes. 1033 00:51:18.340 --> 00:51:21.159 Exactly so. Marlis, in terms of the next year, we 1034 00:51:21.179 --> 00:51:24.630 have about five minutes

left. What do you see in 1035 00:51:24.730 --> 00:51:27.469 terms of projecting what you're hearing? I mean, there's a 1036 00:51:27.489 --> 00:51:29.670 lot of new ships coming, bigger and better ships. We 1037 00:51:29.710 --> 00:51:32.630 know about that. What else can you tell us? What 1038 00:51:32.650 --> 00:51:35.889 about pricing? Do you see it going high, going low? 1039 00:51:36.369 --> 00:51:43.300 Well, like everything, pricing is going up. So I will 1040 00:51:43.469 --> 00:51:48.480 say with some of the newer ships, the sooner you 1041 00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:51.599 make your reservations on some of the new builds, like 1042 00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:55.280 the Icon or the new Star of the Seas or 1043 00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:58.699 the new Sun Princess, you need to book. early because 1044 00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:01.619 the prices will only go up and you will always 1045 00:52:01.659 --> 00:52:08.150 get the benefit if the price happens to go down. So, um, and, um, 1046 00:52:09.570 --> 00:52:13.170 people are, are, are booking well in advance. I think 1047 00:52:13.269 --> 00:52:16.570 after COVID they waited till the last minute. Uh, this 1048 00:52:16.630 --> 00:52:19.550 last year was really weird about strange about that, but 1049 00:52:19.610 --> 00:52:21.730 now I'm seeing a trend where people are now booking 1050 00:52:21.829 --> 00:52:28.809 further out and And cruises are filling up, especially Alaska. 1051 00:52:29.369 --> 00:52:30.550 Alaska this year is huge. 1052 00:52:30.590 --> 00:52:30.929 Why is that? 1053 00:52:30.989 --> 00:52:32.849 Why? I don't know. 1054 00:52:32.869 --> 00:52:36.210 It's such a special destination. 1055 00:52:36.230 --> 00:52:36.650 And it's close. 1056 00:52:36.769 --> 00:52:37.570 It really is. 1057 00:52:37.789 --> 00:52:40.030 You can fly to Seattle or Vancouver. 1058 00:52:40.139 --> 00:52:45.260 Oh, but in August of 2025, Princess has a round 1059 00:52:45.380 --> 00:52:47.059 trip from Los Angeles. 1060 00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:47.599 Oh, really? 1061 00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:51.119 It's a 14-day cruise that goes to Alaska. And they 1062 00:52:51.219 --> 00:52:52.800 still have space available. 1063 00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:55.840 So for those that hate to fly, and I get 1064 00:52:55.860 --> 00:52:58.460 that a lot. Oh, I just don't want to fly anywhere. Well, 1065 00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:01.619 from California, where are you going to go? You know, 1066 00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:05.969 you're going to go to Catalina, Hawaii, up the coast 1067 00:53:06.030 --> 00:53:06.769 to Alaska. 1068 00:53:06.849 --> 00:53:07.070 Right. 1069 00:53:07.289 --> 00:53:08.630 And they're not that common. 1070 00:53:09.150 --> 00:53:10.829 Yeah, we loved Alaska. 1071 00:53:11.289 --> 00:53:12.650 It's so beautiful. 1072 00:53:12.769 --> 00:53:14.809 We did a show there. We were invited. We did 1073 00:53:14.829 --> 00:53:17.369 it on a Norwegian cruise line. We did a show there. 1074 00:53:17.969 --> 00:53:18.590 I remember that. 1075 00:53:18.610 --> 00:53:19.750 It was beautiful. It was really, really good. 1076 00:53:19.809 --> 00:53:19.989 Yeah. 1077 00:53:20.630 --> 00:53:24.340 Um, connection to cruise been around for many years and, uh, again, 1078 00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:27.559 you're here for cruising, but also for travel period. So 1079 00:53:27.579 --> 00:53:29.019 you do more than just cruises. 1080 00:53:29.099 --> 00:53:31.659 Just got back from Costa Rica. It was amazing. I've 1081 00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:34.300 been to Costa Rica five times and I would go 1082 00:53:34.500 --> 00:53:36.489 back again. It's wonderful. 1083 00:53:36.619 --> 00:53:37.349 They love Americans. 1084 00:53:37.409 --> 00:53:37.730 I heard. 1085 00:53:37.829 --> 00:53:38.050 Yes. 1086 00:53:38.289 --> 00:53:41.889 It's just, I was in Tamarindo for a week with 1087 00:53:41.969 --> 00:53:45.389 friends that had bought a place there, but, um, had 1088 00:53:45.409 --> 00:53:50.920 been there before. And I would highly recommend, um, Tamarindo, 1089 00:53:50.980 --> 00:53:52.219 Costa Rica. We just had a ball. 1090 00:53:52.940 --> 00:53:55.780 Was there any... Put you on the spot again. Was 1091 00:53:55.800 --> 00:53:59.889 there any destinations you didn't like that you recommend overrated? 1092 00:54:02.190 --> 00:54:05.969 Oh, boy, that I haven't liked? Well... I think the 1093 00:54:06.010 --> 00:54:08.210 only one that somebody told me that we talked about 1094 00:54:08.269 --> 00:54:10.219 was Morocco. I haven't been there. 1095 00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:13.280 Yeah, I heard some. I thought it would be great. 1096 00:54:13.340 --> 00:54:15.300 Yeah, I thought so, too, and I've always wanted to 1097 00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:15.519 go there. 1098 00:54:15.539 --> 00:54:19.010 There are parts. My son visited there, and there are 1099 00:54:19.050 --> 00:54:21.750 some parts, you know, in the mountains that are just 1100 00:54:21.769 --> 00:54:22.190 absolutely beautiful. 1101 00:54:22.210 --> 00:54:23.300 Well, that's everywhere, I think, anywhere you go. 1102 00:54:23.369 --> 00:54:25.429 But down by the airport. 1103 00:54:26.269 --> 00:54:28.489 Or, you know, like when you, some of the times 1104 00:54:28.630 --> 00:54:30.849 in the Caribbean, if you go to Jamaica, don't get 1105 00:54:30.909 --> 00:54:33.469 off the ship and not do a tour because it's, 1106 00:54:33.630 --> 00:54:35.670 it's pretty, it's pretty rough. 1107 00:54:35.889 --> 00:54:39.230 Yeah, no, I agree. So it's been a real pleasure. 1108 00:54:39.409 --> 00:54:44.760 And now next week, Ms. Ms. Weber went on a 1109 00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:47.280 large round the world cruise. 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