النص الكامل لحلقة Summer Breakfast with Matthew Pantelis - 9th January 2025

children. Meantime, inflation has risen just marginally but up to two point three percent for the quarter, and Mum and Dad helping. House prices in Adelaide, by the way, going against the trend. The figures yesterday showed that while interstate in the Eastern States they're coming down, here in Adelaide continuing to rise, which is just remarkable really, And Adelaide's got a trend of long term trend house prices of going up, platawing, going up, plat owing, never coming down. But at the moment they just haven't been platawing, just constant rises, which is incredible. But that's where we're at in twenty twenty four. Alrighty lots too, have a chat of the story with Kendall in the news. People who drink coffee in the morning less risk of dying, that's good news than those who have one later in the day. Just had one in the last half hour. Researchers analyzing forty thousand adults over nineteen years, so that's fairly comprehensive in terms of surveys. They found mourning coffee drinkers to be sixteen percent less likely to die of any cause, which implies we're going to live forever and I like the sound of that. But less likely to die of any cause. Now you've got to die of something eventually. I don't imagine it's caffeine poisoning, if that's the case according to the survey, But positive news for those of us who enjoy a heart starter in the morning in the form of caffeine. And we've got this new machine down on the third floor here where I've been going for the last few months. And pod machine up on this floor is okay, but a real one down on the third floor which grinds the beans and does all the bells and whistles and things. So I've been loving that every morning. That's a must have, all right, some of the news around the place today, and this is terrible over in the US at the moment, and it's winter over there right now. But at least two people have died and more than one thousand structures destroyed as major wildfires tear through communities in southern California. Now they would have fires every year, but normally it's July, August, September that we're hearing about them. A number of Hollywood celebrities, including Mark Hamill, amongst thirty seven thousand evacuees the fires and the Palisades, the largest of four out of control blazes across La County. The area has had almost no rain in eight months. The locals say, it has to say the least been scary. 00:08:45 Speaker 2: A lot of smoke, flames popping up all over the place. 00:08:48 Speaker 3: It's terrifying my domicile and other adjoining domiciles. 00:08:53 Speaker 1: We're all on the verge of going on fire. That we had to get up. 00:08:58 Speaker 4: We had no choice. 00:09:00 Speaker 1: Who were French to live? Oh that's terrible, but who calls a house a domicile? But terrible? Nonetheless, a hiker who went missing in the snowy Mountains on Boxing Day, has spent his first night away from the elements in nearly two weeks. More from ninees Zach to Silver. 00:09:17 Speaker 5:

Rescuers say they never gave up hope of finding Hardy Nazzari alive, despite scouring bushland for him for almost a fortnight. The twenty three year old was separated from friends while bushwalking on Mount Koziosco's rugged western slopes. Yesterday. He flagged down other hikers and told them he felt dehydrated. He'd spent thirteen days surviving on foraged berries and two musli bars he found in an alpine hut. Hardy has now been reunited with his family and checked over by doctors. After one of the longest successful searchers for a missing person in recent memory. Zak de Silva nine news. 00:09:57 Speaker 1: That has been remarkable, hasn't it. This search has been going on on for ages, sort of low key over here in Essay, but there's been a lot of social media stuff you may have stumbled across, particularly looking for this person. And goes to show the extent of scrubland over in New South Wales, whether it's the Blue Mountains, the Snowy's wherever it is. You can easily get lost in there, and I don't think we've got such an appreciation. I mean, you can't get lost wandering off the trail in the Adelaide Hills. I mean, you'd be a loser if you did, really, because at some point you're going to stumble on a road or something. Not quite the case over there. You know, here you can't get lost between Crafers and Sterling or wherever you are just about. I mean, you'd find it very hard to be lost for two weeks in the Adelaide Hills as an example, but not the case over there. Police and aviation experts searching for answers after that seaplane crash at Rotnest Island, three people killed, four recovering the cessna plunging into water seconds after takeoff. Officials from the Transport Safety Bureau preparing to recover the wreckage later in the morning. Four wheel drives, trail bikes, hovercrafts face being banned from large areas of the York Peninsula's seven hundred kilometre coastline. Access tracks blocked, camp sites closed under a draft plan. The move prompted by of Course Environmental and indigenous considerations may become the template for beaches across the state. As well as protecting indigenous sites, the plan aims to safeguard fragile dunes, sure bird nesting sites, wild life habitats, and other environmentally sensitive areas. Which if you like your four wheel driving and heading down to York's, well, you're going to be limited where you can go. And what if that does spread across the state in terms of getting to some of those harder to reach places that you can only do in a four wheel drive. So this is in I understand, in place now across the York Peninsula, and that would have repercussions for people who hid down in summer, perhaps just have been over Christmas period, what might be your last chance? Dunes and everything else. Shorebird nesting sites are taking priority. It seems residents in southern suburbs should soon have access to round the clock pharmacy care. The state government on the hunt for a twenty four to seven operator following the success of Adelaide's three other all night chemists. Authorities e urging road users to share the road and be mindful of others when using the road. As essay prepares for the tour down under Mania to roll into town. There'll be an influx of cyclists visiting from all over the world and almost time I reckon before we start seeing cafes full of cyclists bikes parked out the front. Is there a collective peloton? I suppose is what it is? What do you call all the bike stacked outside a mess? I don't know. But Grant Stephens spoke about the importance of roads yesterday. 00:13:00 Speaker 6: There is a massive influx of cyclists from right around Australia and overseas into South Australia for this period of January, and we're asking people to, as Stuart said, show a bit of respect for each other road users both cycles vehicles, to pay extra attention to cyclists. There will be an abundance of cyclists on the road, show a bit of patients and share the road as we often convey as a message for road safety. 00:13:27 Speaker 1: A new report predicts seventy eight million jobs will be created globally by the end of the decade, mostly through tech changes, including the shift to clean energy. Business leaders warning workforce needs to urgently upskill to meet the needs of those future roles. Australian Industry Group Chief Executive in US Willock says the nation relies too heavily on overseas migration to fill critical work shortages. 00:13:51 Speaker 7: This is telling us that Australian employers are less confident that we have the skills base here that they need. That is in the case in some other markets the United States across Europe's. 00:14:01 Speaker 1: Instance, voters have been warned of an increase volume of information on social media ahead of the federal election, Facebook and Instagram's parent company Meta announcing it will no longer fact check posts and by that they won't be taking off the right wing ones and just leaving up the left wing ones. That's what that means, which they said they were never doing to start with, but of course they were because now they won't be. Nearly a quarter of fresh water species are in danger of extinction. Pollution, water extraction and over harvesting the biggest threats. The research published in the Nature Journal, looked at twenty three thousand species round the world, including fish, crabs, shrimps and crayfish. James Cook Uni warning governments need to act quickly to prevent further declines in important species. Turning to sport and colours, custom design any house any style, glideole garage, doors, gliderol dot com dot Au, the Aussie Cricke hoping the huge crowds will continue for the women's Ashes series, which begins with a one day in Sydney on Sunday. Keeper Alissa Healy due to playing Governor General's eleven today as she puts the knee through its paces after injury and all round the Anna Belle Sutherland has told wide World of Sports they have plenty of stars who

can turn a match around. 00:15:20 Speaker 8: Much winners in every position basically, So I think that's something you've got to be able to rely on your whole squad in a series like the Ashes, which includes every format. 00:15:35 Speaker 1: Nathan McSweeney is set to be recalled to the Australian Test squad for the upcoming tour of Sri Lanka. News Court Reporting Australia also set to name Todd Murphy and Matthew Koneman and reinforcing the men's Big Bash clash between the Thunder and Hurricanes to be abandoned without a ball being bold. The Nasi Kokanakas reaching the quarter finals at the Adelaide International with a straight sets win. Teenager Emerson Jones fort Hart her last to last year's finalist Daria Catsantina in the women's drawer. Seeding's released for the Australian Open starting Sunday. Australia has three seeded men's players, Alex de Minor at eighth, Alex Alexei Popperin at twenty five, Jordan Thompson at twenty seven and Nick Kirios drained a stomach muscle but hoping to be fit to be part of the Open and in the A League men Sydney FC beat Per three nil. In the women's the raw beat the victory, while Newcastle and Adelaide played out a three all draw. All right, twenty nine past six. News is on the way in just seconds. On the other side, we are going to be talking about Flinder's Jed who knew, but don't wonder what part of the Flinder's they're from. Well, I have a chat about that. Albe Trotter from Flinder's General join me and they're going to have an exclusive range only available for a few days, a couple of weeks I suppose it is, or a week or so anyway at the Adelaide Central Market. So we'll find out all about that coming up shortly here on five double A good morning to you, Welcome to the show here till nine and Lee's Burrus from nine this morning, we were doing news headlines just before the news and looking at some of the stories around the place. Daniel from Ross Trevor has called in about one can I Daniel? 00:17:17 Speaker 4: Good morning? 00:17:18 Speaker 1: Yeah you too, thank you. 00:17:20 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:17:20 Speaker 3: I thought it was a bit ominous when you mentioned that the T twenty game between the Thunder and the Hurricanes was called off due to bad weather. 00:17:25 Speaker 9: I mean a couple of names like that. 00:17:27 Speaker 4: I don't think they did really expect too much cricket, would you? 00:17:31 Speaker 1: Thunder and the Hurricanes, bad weather called off before a ball being bold, well spot on, and you know what, normally I'd pick up on something like that, but it just washed over. Ah, there's another one just washed over me. But there it goes, Daniel, very perceptive. Well done. We're going to send you to the Wallace Movies. Thanks for the no worries. Good on you. Yes, the Hurricanes and the Thunder the match was abandoned because of bad weather. All right, good on you, Daniel. Enjoy the flicks, the fabulous while cinema stay on the line and then we'll get some details and we'll send you a movie pass. If you like your gin, you'll be interested in this. It will be available at the Central Market or at least some special gin potentially award winning at that from Flinders Gin. Who knew Albi Trotter from Flinder's Gin? Morning, Albi? How are you. 00:18:23 Speaker 10: Great? 00:18:23 Speaker 4: Thanks? 00:18:24 Speaker 1: How are you excellent? Thank? You tell me about Flinder's Gin. Now obviously based in the Flinders? What part whereabouts? 00:18:30 Speaker 10: We're based in Corn? 00:18:32 Speaker 1: All right, southern Flinders? So it do you need what climate for gen? How's gin made? 00:18:42 Speaker 10: No? No, gin's made by stealing, so you don't need any climate. We're based up in Corn because we use a lot of the native foods that are growing around us to actually flavor the gin. Okay, so that's where we're based up here, and we're also a bit of a tourist destination as well. We've got a tasting rooms for sixty people and people who come and enjoy the gyms and also hate sit around for a few other drinks and so forth. And we actually have a distillery and an old eighteen ninety stable, so it's got a lot of atmosphere as well. 00:19:11 Speaker 1: So yeah, you in the town itself. Yeah, we are well near the railway station end or down down. 00:19:18 Speaker 10: Go down the round banks to homey old mill. For the people in Oakorn, it would actually directly behind the old mill. We're in an old livery stable right all right. 00:19:26 Speaker 1: So now gin in tasting rooms and that it's become a thing, hasn't it. It's almost like a wine industry here in Essay and so many places. Is South Australia got the jump on this. 00:19:38 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think we're leading the way. I've just come back from a trade trip to Singapore and did type earlier in the year and with the Distillers Association from South Australia and I think where you have around about one hundred distilleries in South Australia is growing quite rapidly. And it's good to see though, because we're actually becoming quite a good state for the country when it comes to producing gin. 00:20:07 Speaker 1: What's the best way to enjoy it now? And traditionally tonic, right, but I imagine there's many other options. 00:20:12 Speaker 10: Yeah, there is traditionally tonic and that's probably about ninety percent of our customers. Some of our customers like to do it with soda water, but as I say to all our customers, what I like compared to what you like and what the next person like is really personal. And you know, we don't judge people for what they mix with their gin. I even have a customer who drinks his gin with a coke. I don't recommend it, but you know, each to their own all. We have a strong mancher. We just want a strong mancher. We just want people to enjoy our gin any way they like and not judge. 00:20:45 Speaker 1: And like so many different alcohols, gin is a good mixer, isn't it for forming other drinks the basis of something else.

00:20:53 Speaker 10: Yeah, We've got a whole range of cocktails and our tastes round that we actually make out of our gin. So yeah, can we a good mix set to make a lot of different cocktails out of it as well? Absolutely? 00:21:03 Speaker 6: Yeah? 00:21:03 Speaker 1: All right, So coming to Adelaide now in the Central Market, what's that about? Is that a new thing for Flinders? 00:21:09 Speaker 10: Well, this is it's stating back at the Central Market. The Central Market has a producer of residence and we're really grateful for them for having it. We did one of about a year and a probably a year and a half ago. It was our first thing down there, and it really went really well, so well that we had a lot of customer feedback through the central Masket ask us to come back, and so we've come back for the second time and now we're back there for the third time and we get a lot of requests for our products to come back, and it's really quite it's been really quite important to our business. Has helped us grow and also helped the brand grow down through to Adelaide as well and beyond, and it's allowed our customers to access our products because we not only need to do Gin, we actually do a lot of other products too. We do Gin so we do Gin salt, we do Gin lip balm, and we also stock a lot of other local products at a at our distillery. And we've also just put recently purchaed the newsages up in Corn which were revamped as the Spirit of the Flinders, and we're actually going to carry all locally produced products at that property as well, so we're actually going to strong focus. There's a lot of clever people up this way and when you start to dig around you find, for instance, we have a guy who makes our leather products for us up here. He needs his grandfather made for wits for the stockman on the birds will track the main and it's a lot of stories that they come up every day. And we're actually trying to stock you know, not not only a distillery but down on the Central Market but also up at the Spirit of the Flinders. We're also trying to stock a lot of that sort of products up here because a lot of those things have a really good story to it and really clever people that have done things for a long time. 00:22:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure that's right, and you know, that's sort of history. I mean it almost needs to be recorded somewhere, an audio history or a video history or something like that. 00:22:55 Speaker 10: Yeah, what we plan are doing is for the people that we stop their products, things like the wids and so for us, is we'll do a little plaque or something east explaining who they are, where they came from, you know, and then so on to actually highlight the you know, what their story is, so because they find it quite intriguing. Another really exciting thing about when we purchased the new jagents up here, it also came with a bakery with a wood fired Other than that has been hasn't been touched into about nineteen sixty five and it was

actually put in the town and around the late eighteen hundreds and it's a perfect condition, so actually planned to revamp reopen that. And so there's not a lot of wood others left in Australia. And there's an old brick other that was made in Hiley Street and the late eighteen hundreds and the stored up here, so it hasn't been used since nineteen sixty five, which is Yeah, there's a lot of hidden gems up here that you come across. 00:23:52 Speaker 1: Would you regularly would you be the furthest north gin distiller? You probably are? Would there be anything further north? Now? 00:23:59 Speaker 10: I think I think there's a guy. No, I think we are actually yeah, we would be. 00:24:05 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:24:05 Speaker 10: Yeah, we just certainly don't have any competitors around us. But we don't just see ourselves. 00:24:09 Speaker 9: As as as a gender stillery. 00:24:11 Speaker 10: We actually see ourselves as a destination. We're going because a staff and are all trained to actually talk to the customers and when our customer comes through, a staff are trained from to sit down and they'll describe all the gins. They'll actually show the native foods that actually go into the gym, so people can be educated and become a bit more of a destination rather than just another gender distillery. So we want to be a destination as well as as well as a gender sillery. And we like to share a lot of the stories about what's going on around in the district as well, which makes it makes a lot of the travelers that come up this neck of the woods, they're really interesting sort of things. So and what we find really quite funny and interesting as people go up to the Flint is they come through corn. They usually purchase and then they go they collapsed from this, and on the way back, I usually have to purchase again because I've consumed what they purchased on the way up. 00:25:03 Speaker 1: That's the way. All right, you're in the market till January twenty five, I understand, so people can check out the products there. 00:25:10 Speaker 10: Yeah, correct, Yeah, we are, and we've had such good response we're actually working with a market to possibly open a full time stall there perhaps in twenty twenty six when the new renovations have done as well. 00:25:23 Speaker 1: All righty, good on you. I'll be nice meeting you today, and best wishes with it. 00:25:26 Speaker 10: Thanks you charming. 00:25:27 Speaker 1: No, i'llbi try to Flinder's Gin from Quorn and yes, there we go a lot of infign gin seventeen to seven on five double A. We will take a quick break on the other side, the Weather Bureau will join me in say police as well, and we'll also have a chat with the Cancer Council Emma McKee regarding their Marilyn Jetty swim coming up on February the second. Talking about the tool down Under a bit earlier, Rob suggests the collective now for cyclists is an arrogance of cyclists and somebody saying great four abreast bike riders through the Adelaide Hills

coming up. Well, there's going to be whole pelotons for the tour down Under, which at the end of the day is a great event for South Australia. So let's go with that. It is good, brings people in and we all get behind it. I reckon at the time because the excitement of it being here is pretty good, and you know what, if the weather's as good as now, it's going to be an absolute cracker of an event. Hannah marsh is with the Bureau of Meteorology Duty forecaster. Hannah, good morning, Good morning, Matthew. It is pretty good at the moment, Yeah. 00:26:30 Speaker 4: It is. 00:26:31 Speaker 11: Unfortunately I can't quite get the crystal ball out for the two down under yet, but having a look at the weather at the moment, like you said, pretty good where we saw a minimum of eighteen point nine degrees just before two thirty this morning, but we've really been hovering around that twenty one to twenty two degree mark since then, so it's currently sitting on twenty one point nine degrees. We're looking at a maximum of thirty three degrees in the city, thirty four at Elizabeth, thirty one at Glen Elg, thirty two at no Longer, and thirty three also at Mount Barker. 00:27:07 Speaker 4: Today. 00:27:07 Speaker 11: There is a bit of cloud around at the moment, some high cloud. There is the chance that we could see a rumble of thunder or a spot or two out of that, but not expecting much in it, and that is expected to clear as we head towards the late morning period, so by afternoon we are looking at those clear skies and seeing that temperature as I mentioned, climbing up the thirty three degrees. Tomorrow we're looking at a sunny thirty four degrees, then Saturday, mostly sunny thirty three thirty one for Sunday and thirty for Monday. Then on Tuesday we see the return of some partly cloudy conditions and twenty eight we do have a more substantial change that does come through dropping the temperature back to twenty four degrees for Wednesday. 00:27:52 Speaker 1: There it is good on youa Hannah, Thank you, thank you. Good day, Hannah Marsh, Bureau of Meteorology at the police desk this morning. See you. Constable Matt Brown on the line, Matt, good. 00:28:02 Speaker 12: Morning, Good morning, Matt. How are you all right? 00:28:04 Speaker 1: Thank you? Now an arrest after a pursuit at Glenelg. 00:28:08 Speaker 12: North, that's right about twelve thirty am today police saw a Reno Colio station wagon traveling on Tapley's Hill Road at Glenelg North without its lights on and also speeding. Now Pollier was nearby and was able to monitor the car throughout multiple suburbs where roadspikes were successfully deployed on Everard Avenue at Ashford and police saw a single man running from the vehicle. He was located a short time later on James Congdan Drive. So the twenty three year old man from Seaton was arrested and charged with engaging in a police pursuit, carrying offensive weapon and legal use of a motor vehicle, and numerous other offenses. Now investigations are ongoing, so only one who may have witnessed the car speeding through the Western suburbs it used to call Crime Stoppers on one eight hundred, triple three, triple zero. 00:28:51 Speaker 1: Alrighty, missing team on the Peninsula since yesterday. 00:28:56 Speaker 12: That's right. Police are seeking assistance from the public to help locate missing person Xavier, who was last seen in Colter on the Air Peninsula about four pm on Wednesday, the eighth of January. Xavier is fifteen years old, Caucasian appearance, shoulder length brown here in a mustache, about one hundred and eighty centimeters tall, and he was last seen wearing blue denim jeans, a light pink rip curl shirt, a black BILLI Bond cap with a pink logo on the front, and wasn't wearing any shoes. But police have concerns for his welfare and anyone who sees Xavier in the Coulter area you might be traveling through there on holidays or have relatives on the Air Peninsula. There's also a photo of Xavier on our police Facebook page, so if you get on there and check it out if you are traveling through the Coulter area, and if you do see him, please call it the police assistance line immediately on one three one triple four. 00:29:45 Speaker 1: Alrighty, And yesterday the Commissioner and Tour down Under got together and talked about road user awareness leading into the Tour down Under because from now till then and even after we will see groups of cyclists, so whether they're likels or visitors around the state around Adelaide, certainly. 00:30:03 Speaker 12: Yeah, exactly right, Matt. I believe the correct term is peloton to use a cycling terminology. Not that I'm a two wheeled in enthusiast myself, but do like riding on the mountain bike with the kids. And the tourdown Under it is an incredible event, as our release said yesterday, twenty five years it's been going and police have operations Safe Cycling, which is designed to safely manage the tourdown Under and associated events as well. And of course all road users have to be vigilant for cyclists and as you mentioned, of course an influx of cyclists around the city and drivers are used to looking for other larger vehicles like cars, and trucks and the like, but cyclists are smaller, quick and can be more difficult to see, so just be more vigilant around the intersections and when making less hand turns. And if you are going out to watch any of the racing with the tooldown under, if you're sitting on a curb on the edge there, keep the road edges clear to leave space for cyclist to overtake and other support vehicles to get through. And spectators driving or starting cars near flammable bush or grass should also be aware that it can possibly start a fire, so just be careful where you park your car when you're going to watch the peloton zoom past. 00:31:19 Speaker 9: Now. 00:31:19 Speaker 12: We'll have lots of information on our Facebook page and social media sites as well, so keep an eye on them and also the

tooldown under website. And we hope that everybody, both professional and amateur, has a safe and fun event. 00:31:33 Speaker 1: Indeed, good on you, Matt, thank you for your time. 00:31:35 Speaker 12: Thanks Matt Sen. 00:31:35 Speaker 1: You're Constable Matt Brown at Police Media this morning, let's quickly check the roads around Adelaide and thinking about selling your commercial property need advice, We'll talk to the experts at our WC Adelaide visit Ourwcadelaide dot com one of their rides. 00:31:51 Speaker 13: Looking really good. Today 'res and breakdown, freeze and a hassle is getting to work, which is a crackingly good start. There are some works in the city around Victoria Square there setting up the Tour down Under for year, which is great. So few the lays are in there at the moment. 00:32:02 Speaker 1: It's it got some. 00:32:03 Speaker 13: Delays around with adlaid ride closures for the tennis around One More Drive and the Adelaide Oval and works at Maring to look out for today, Marin Rodney, Hamilton High to the record number of Australians who bought a toot Or in twenty twenty four. You've helped make tour Or Australia's number one car brand for the twenty second year running. Oh what a feeling Adelaide's vised Acura traffic. 00:32:21 Speaker 1: I'm five double a alrighty And now this is an event that has been going on for well at least a decade. I reckon the Marilyn Jetty swim down at Brighton and it has seen all sorts of people dress up as Marilyn Monroe and jump into the water wigs and all shiny shimmery dresses and all Emma McKee from the Cancer councilor let's say it is on again, Emma, good morning, Good morning, Matt. How are you all right? Thank you? A fun event. 00:32:51 Speaker 14: It's absolutely fun. 00:32:52 Speaker 7: It's iconic. 00:32:53 Speaker 1: Some would say, all right, so when is it and what is the aim? 00:32:57 Speaker 14: Yeah, so it's the twelfth year this year, for twenty twenty five, it's on Sunday, the second of February. We take part in the Channel seven Brighton Jetty Classics, so the wider event and the Marylands have become the biggest swim within that and we swim roughly at about quarter past ten, but we do parade down Jety Road just beforehand, so it's quite the spectacle for the spectators to come down and see a bit of a pageant and fanfare beforehand. 00:33:25 Speaker 1: I reckon by now for somebody will be more the dressing up in the parade than the swim. 00:33:30 Speaker 14: It is, honestly, there's a lot of build up before the swim. The swim is honestly a bit of a relief by the time you get in the water. 00:33:39 Speaker 15: There's a lot of you know, everyone. 00:33:41 Speaker 14: Tends to get a little bit anxious about it if you haven't done it before. But it's one of the safest swims you can take part in obviously, you know, we rely on the incredible work from the Brighton Thurft Club with all of their water support and this year we're incredibly proud to say that we have over

seven hundred people read said to participate this year and they have nearly cracked eighty thousand dollars raised to our target of four hundred thousand dollars. 00:34:06 Speaker 1: Wow, incredible. Yeah, how many people do this? It's grown certainly, hasn't it. 00:34:11 Speaker 14: Oh year on year it keeps growing, So every year is our biggest year. Yet it keeps getting bigger, better and blonder essentially. So the very first year it had fifty people. So it started from Brighton local Sarah Tinney. She came up with the concept to support her mother who was back home in the US who had been diagnosed with cancer. 00:34:32 Speaker 10: And that's the. 00:34:33 Speaker 14: Real message behind that the event. Whilst it's a lot of fun and a big spectacle on the day, the people who are participating are doing it for a reason. They're supporting people who are impacted by cancer and raising vital funds for cancer. 00:34:47 Speaker 1: Cancer I say, yeah, absolutely. I wonder what Sarah would have thought that first year and it'd be lucky to get ten people turn up to this dressed as Marilyn Monroe. But there's fifty and now it's well, it's more than ten times that. It's amazing. 00:34:58 Speaker 14: Yeah, it's huge. We're really happy that people have taken it on board. We have so many new people participating year on years, so we have a lot of people that return because they love it, and we have a lot of people who sort of tick it off the bucket list and do it one year and then pass the baton onto other people who haven't done it before. But it's incredible and it's open to anyone from twelve years up is able to participate, so almost all ages and male and female do not have to be a woman to participate in. 00:35:28 Speaker 1: If you're a bit shy about putting on a frock, particularly if you're a bloke, can you just turn up, donate whatever, register and take part in the swim. 00:35:35 Speaker 14: Absolutely. 00:35:36 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:35:36 Speaker 14: So we've been incredibly overwhelmed with the interest this year, so we have had to close registrations a little bit earlier than usual, but we encourage everyone to come down and find out what it's all about. The event is on Sunday, the second of February. We swim around the Jetty at Brighton, so it's not hard to see us, and if you would like to support us and donate please head to the Marylyn's dot org online. 00:35:58 Speaker 1: Good on you, am I. It's great. Hope it goes well. Thank you so much, Thank you Emma McKee from the Cancer Council. Let's say February the second the Marilyn Jedty Swim at Brighton. It has become a bit of a tradition and twelve years in as Emma said, so if you can go down and support them, or too late to register by the sounds of it, if they've closed them off, but it will be happening on that date and if you can support, particularly financially. I mean the cause is one of the best ever in raising funds for people with cancer, and nothing better than supporting an organization that lends itself to that cause one hundred percent. So the Marylyn Jetty Swim Somenday the second at Brighton and hundreds of want to be Marilyn Monroe's taking part in that. How do you swim with a frock. I don't know, and you don't want to lose any sequence in the water because, no doubt you get the environmentalists onto you. 00:36:55 Speaker 9: But there we go. 00:36:57 Speaker 1: It's going to be happening again this year on second effect, not that far away at the moment. Now, we've been talking a range of different topics this morning, including the tour down under, which is on the way. Somebody has texted in no name on this saying a peloton's instructed to consider cars and trucks on the road. I don't think so, it's just motorists instructed to consider bikes coming around the corner in the Hills. Yesterday was confronted by a group of cyclists middle of the road Upper Hill having a water break. FFS imagined if I was in a truck, I wouldn't have been able to stop in time. Who would get the blame the vehicle driver, not the self entitled clown stopped in the elecra in the middle of the road. Where's the police when you need them? Living in the hills this time of year is a nightmare, with the pelotons so dangerous that I'm over it alrighty, thank you for the text to that. Effect. Earlier this week, there was a story about a woman in a property that she was renting which had been used presumably as a meth lab or at the very least somebody using meth in the house. And the house was well, for one of a better word, infected with meth. And the danger was if she'd brought in any furniture she had was an air mattress and a chair, because any other furniture, you know, cloth and that sort of thing would ingest that myth that is invisible but seeping out of the walls, the floors, the ceiling, and there are some real health risks with that. 00:38:25 Speaker 6: Well. 00:38:25 Speaker 1: Flinder's UNI has done a study into the methamphetamine contamination in cars, because cars, like houses, can retain traces of meth after it's been smoked in the vehicle, putting subsequent users at risk of third hand exposure to the drug. Professor Kirsten Ross at Flinder's UNI, looking over the survey, good morning to you, professor, And what does this mean the effects of myth if you do ingest it or come into conn with second third hand meth. What are the health risks of that? 00:39:05 Speaker 15: Well, good morning, Matthew. So the health risks are very similar to the sorts of health effects that we see in users, so things like changes in brain cognition, so the ability to concentrate and so on. We see things like watery eyes, each skin mood changes. There are a whole range of what we're calling one specific symptoms, and we're calling them a third hand exposure symptoms because it's a very broad range of symptoms that you wouldn't necessarily put down to being related to your exposure to mathound centerman Is it. 00:39:43 Speaker 1: The same as

when you enter the house or a car for that matter, of a smoker, where you know you're in the property of somebody who smokes cigarettes, and later you might even detect it on your clothing or whatever, even if they haven't lit up while you're there. You still know about it, don't you. Long term? 00:40:01 Speaker 15: Yeah, Look, that's one of the problems with metam fetamine is that, like you said earlier, it is invisible. You can't smell it in the same way you can smell our secondhand smoke, and the exposure is the same. So in secondhand exposure, you're with somebody who's smoking the metaan fetamine. But the big problem is the third hand exposure where you can walk into a property or now possibly a get into a car and it will look absolutely perfect. But if it's contaminated with metam fetamine, like you said earlier in your introduction that metan feta means very mobile, and so it moves from different fabrics into the air, back into the walls and out again and so on. So there's this exposure, this constant exposure because you're exposed through primarily through inhalation, so mainly you breathe it in. So if it's in the fabrics or in the carpets or whatever, it comes out of that and then and then you breathe it in. And that was what our recent research in the cars found was that it was both in the fabrics of the cars, but then also we looked at the air contamination with methamstamine and we've found that we could also protect it in the air. 00:41:08 Speaker 1: Okay, so if you cleaned the car out, you know, vacuum the felt on the roof and the floor and the seats and all of that, and gave it a scrub inside and out, would that make a difference. 00:41:21 Speaker 15: You know, that's a good start. But one of the things we did find was that we wiped over a number of surfaces solid surfaces with a wipe, and we were still detecting metalstamine even after four sets of wipes. So cleaning it doesn't necessarily completely get rid of it. And that's one of the problems that we're seeing in houses is the remediation of houses is actually really difficult. It doesn't it's not a case of just wiping it over and it's gone, because it seeps into so for example, it sits into the walls. So if you clean the surface of the wall, it will initially be not contaminated to them. Gradually that metha fataman will move back out into the surface and then back out into the air. It's really really difficult to get rid of. 00:42:07 Speaker 1: So I mean, does it disappear eventually? I suppose it would have to. 00:42:11 Speaker 15: Yeah, Look, eventually it does disappear if we think, I mean we I mean we've seen houses have been contaminated for years and we're still detecting metha Anteta means yeah. But we have seen, for example, a truck that was contaminated where the window was left open after a number of years of being in the sunshine and not being used that the levels slowly went down, so we think of ultimately it probably the lat lies it all vanished. It you know, evaporates off and then it disappears. But really it does take a really really long time, and you don't, as. 00:42:47 Speaker 1: I understand it, necessarily have to be smoking it, even storing it or transporting it, for instance, in a car, that's enough, apparently, we think so. 00:42:57 Speaker 15: Again, like I say, it's so mobile. Someone compared it with you know, when you go up to Alice Springs and then you come back and you're finding red dust your car years later. Someone compared it to that, and I think that's a really good analogy. Yeah, it's anywhere where it's been. It seems to come in. Once it's come in contact with something, it doesn't it doesn't disappear. We don't know the levels of contamination associated with just transport, but it does look like that that might be the case. 00:43:27 Speaker 1: Well, okay, so if you're buying a secondhand car or a house for that matter, how do you know you just don't. 00:43:35 Speaker 15: No, Look, I mean there's a couple of things that you can do. There are test kits available on the internet, and they work pretty much like a COVID test, so you do a swallow of the wall and then you can see whether it's present or absent, and they're reasonably jeep. There's also occupied pasonal hygienas to come and actually do the testing for you if you suspect that there might be mess contaminations at the moment. There's no requirement for the vendors of either the cars or the houses to do that testing. In New Zealands now it is a requirement for sale or rental of a house that they do testing for meth anthetamy, but we haven't seen that legislation in Australia yet. I mean, having said that, exposure in a car from a public health risk perspective is much lower because you're not in the car for anywhere near the length time that you're living in your house. 00:44:28 Speaker 9: But it's not a. 00:44:29 Speaker 15: Bad thing to sort of be thinking about. And like I say, there are reasonably cheap test kits that you can do it yourself. They're not particularly accurate, but they will give you an idea about whether there's meds present at all. 00:44:40 Speaker 1: Okay, got a question from Andrew. Do prescribe medications which contain myth have negative reactions with some people. 00:44:49 Speaker 15: Look, I think that the problem primarily is that the exposure is through through contamination by smoking. The prescribed medications are very controlled in the way that you know, you take the dose in signs, so you're not you know, they're in the bottle, they're in the in the tablet, and so the likelihood of contamination is probably significantly reduced. But with his question about the actual health effects, I'm not a clinician, so I don't know, but I suspect that, yes, that the health effects are probably likely to be similar, but the dose is also probably like to need to be much less. 00:45:28 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, okay, that's interesting. Well, there's all sorts of learnings in that to consider

when you particularly with a car. I mean, yeah, well a house as well, for that matter. But I suppose, gosh that it should almost be mandatory testing for houses going forward, all cars for that matter too, that you need a clean bill of health to sell it. I don't know that's feasible or not, but it seems to be where we're heading. 00:45:55 Speaker 15: I think that would be a really good idea, especially now that we're seeing that not just looking like you said in your introduction, cooking has been the focus primarily from a public health perspective. But we know that smoking now which a lot more people do, so very people. A few people cook mes and fhetamine, far more people smoke it, which means that if people are smoking and contaminating houses, then the likely number of houses and cars that are contaminated is probably much higher than we're anticipating. 00:46:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, is it the same for people who smoke, for instance, cannabis in a car or a house but the same health effects supply. 00:46:31 Speaker 15: Oh look, I don't know. That's not my area of experties. I don't want to be entrough into that. 00:46:35 Speaker 3: I don't know much about campus. 00:46:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, because I imagine just like cigarette smoke, for instance, in a car, it'll probably leach into the fabrics as well, I would guess. So yeah. Interesting, all right, really appreciate your time. 00:46:48 Speaker 15: Thank you, Thank you, Matthew, Thank you again. 00:46:50 Speaker 1: Professor Kirsten Ross from Flinders on a study done. They're measuring meth contamination in cars, but you're going to add houses to that, as we've been discussing, certainly earlier this week and the TiSER was a story about a woman living in a house absolutely doused in meth. On the inside and leaching out every hom and she can't have furniture because that'll just leach into the furniture she's got, so needs to get out of there. The dog's in there, What about the poor dog? Probably got headaches and all the rest. But anyway, negative reactions of meth that can affect you if you're living in a house. You may have bought a house or renting one and suddenly there's headaches and you think, what's going on, Well, it could be somebody previously was a meth user. Potentially. Anyway, it's unreal. All right, where's that going. 00:47:44 Speaker 15: To end up? 00:47:45 Speaker 1: A few techts on the line on methamphetamines and housing and all the rest, and they read like this, So there's a rental crisis and people living in houses that used to be smack houses. But nobody's really concerned because real estate agents don't have to live in them, just the tenant who ends up with the health concerns from this issue. Seems it would be different if the issue was on the other foot. But anyway, all right, thank you. Stuart mim says, what about those people who are taking meth and dine out? Can they transfer it? To tables and chairs, shopping, etc. Where does it stop? Yeah, I reckon,

you're on the right track. Men, Where does it stop? Regarding the dust in your car from Alice Springs, Somebody here, rather wittily says, that's if you still have your car from Alice Springs. Tim says another bit of wit here. Tim says, at least if you lived in a house contaminated with meth, you wouldn't have to bother buying a morning coffee. That's on the back of a study. We were talking about this a bit earlier this morning, a study that shows coffee drinkers can basically live forever morning coffee drinkers, that is, not afternoon, but morning. If you have your cuppa early in the day, then you stand a good chance of not I don't know about not dying ever, that's what the story kind of implies. But we all die sometime, don't we. And it says people who drink coffee in the morning less likely of dying than those who have won later in the day. Researchers in the US analyzing forty thousand adults over nineteen years, finding morning coffee drink at sixteen percent less likely to die of any cause, which is a bit ridiculous because something's going to get you, but not the coffee, it seems, at least not if you have it in the morning. So that's what Tim's text alludes to. Thank you Tim for that, Matthew, Real and present danger, says John at Normanville. Four years ago, a nearby rental home was used as a meth house, eventually being found by police, although redecorated to a degree, A later couple renting it had in the following three years increased bouts of ille health, including hospitalization before the cause was realized. It is only recently been reoccupied. Wow, So there it is. That is real not good? Is it not good at all? All? Right? Twenty three past seven. If you're wondering what the day has in store weatherwise, thirty three cloud this morning, will clear currently twenty two in the city, thirty four tomorrow and similarly across the weekend as well. But fine sunny days all the way through, which is pretty good. They're good days. If you're using a solar on your roof, for instance, to charge up your EV you'll be interested in this that the latest news on evs. Well, not only according to the Electric Vehicle Council twenty twenty four, setting a new record for EV sales, even though sales have declined. All manufacturers will tell you. Both Lexus and Toyota have put out releases in the last couple of days talking about how many electrified vehicles have been purchased. Lexus ten thousd a nod Toyota have sold. How many evs they've got a total here half a million hybrids in total sold in Australia. I don't know how many are just pure evs, but that's their info. But EV sales by BYD they have. They're saying the cheapest EV in the country at now under thirty grand, probably twenty nine nine ninety nine. It's a stripped back version of their basic Dolphin model hitting the shores now seven thousand, cheaper than the standard model, which would be thirty seven grand, presumably well close enough to so a Dolphin BYD which stands for build your own. I don't know how that works because I ain't building it, but anyway, it's available for twenty nine under thirty so twenty nine something, which I suppose in terms of a car is pretty good value, just whether you want it to be an EV or not. I'm still in two minds. I well, not two mines. I don't think i'd ever buy one. I can't see it anyway. But the fact you could run out of charge, the fact you can't get good economy out of it on a country trip because unlike petrol or diesel, you're driving it at one hundred and ten, you're using less fuel if you're going further for that speed for you know, without stopping. It's the stop start of the city that choose up your fuel and an EV on a country road, the faster you go, the more energy underlike fuel or petrol or diesel. The faster you go on an EV, the more juice you're using, and so the stop start in the city really suits them. It's the opposite in effect. So you go on a country trip, you'll be stopping every two hundred k's to recharge. Is especially with the aircnon. So anyway, good luck and sales have increased, they've fallen back a bit, but still quite a few being sold. So that's where that's at, including now for under thirty grand for a new EV, which look, if you're in the market, that is good news and that's how that works. News is coming up on five double A not too far away. Now. On the other side, we are going to be talking about the effectiveness of the proposed ban on junk food advertising on buses, trains and trams. The state government announced this on the weekend. Groups like the Cancer Council and others certainly welcoming in in a bid to tackle obesity. Outdoor advertisers unsurprisingly not so keen. They say overseas where this has been done, hasn't had any effect. So we'll have a chat with them about banning junk food ads on public transport. See an update on the bushfires wildfires as they call them over there in La. The death toll remains at two, which in itself, I mean, that's tragic to start with. But looking at the footage of fires and people filming the fires from within their homes with ten foot flames right out the front, literally out the front. They could open the door, reach out and put their hand in it or their arm in it. The flames are right there. What are you still doing in your home? Do they not have the same warning system we do here? It's unreal, but one thousand properties have been destroyed seventy thousand people evacuated. It's unbelievable. We've put in a call to people there from seven to nine and if we can get somebody to have a chat with about the latest, we will do that this morning here on five double a breakfast. But the death Tulle and rather amazingly tragically also too dead. But gosh, you look at the intensity of the fire. It could have been a lot worse. And I see warnings too it could potentially become worse. But whole city streets have been affected, including stores, you know, big stores. By the looks of it from the footage, it's

unbelievable. On a different note, got a message from Lisa who says, when will the Norwood pain them? Saint Peter's council fix the parade with those ridiculous gum trees in the median strip pushing up the bitumen on either side. City side is worse around the Colonists Hotel in the western part of the parade, cars are thrown up in the air. It's dangerous. Any motorcyclist unaware of the state of the road hitting that surface risks being thrown off. Lisa spot, I've driven along there and particularly you're right by the colonists and I'm not sure if it's a Bob Jane or whatever it is. Along that part of the road there's mechanics and whatever. This is almost opposite the Oval, the Norward Oval just a bit further city side of that, and you're driving along there, you are thrown in the air. You're quite right in a car. And if you're not normally in that lane, or you're not normally on the parade and you strike that on a motorbike, I can see what you're saying, you'd be absolutely catapulted off. It's unbelievably dangerous. And why the council has let it get to this stage. They did resurface the whole road because of this problem. The trees are just inappropriate for that location. Plant something else otherwise, keep fixing it if you want the trees there, because that's what you got to do, and road safety is paramount. You would think the council would care, nor would Saint Peter pay them. Council get onto it because at Lisa's spot on the road is a mess because of these trees. So if you want the trees, fix the road and keep doing it. Every few years, but it's as bad as it ever has and in fact it's downright dangerous. Got to get onto that. We spoke about this earlier with the count Council. In fact, on Monday, I think we had the mind talking about the government's announcement on the weekend that it would ban junk food, ads, confectionery, fast food, you name it, soft drinks on buses, trains and trams and presumably that includes bus stops and shelters and train stations and all the rest, because they want to tackle the obesity crisis. The Cancer Council says anything that aims to do that is welcome. From the Outdoor Media Advertising Group, we have Josh Fakes on the line. Josh, good morning to you, thanks for coming on. You think this is a terrible idea, unsurprisingly, perhaps. 00:57:34 Speaker 4: Surprising, Good morning Matthew. It's great to be with you, and thanks having me from the Australian Association of National Advertisers. And look just sort of kid off Matt by saying we all agree that obesie is a problem in Australia and something needs to be done about it, and we all agree that the government the industry have a really important role to play in protecting the public and particularly kids, particular kids from harmful products. But we know that advertising band unhealthy food are not the answer and just don't work in reducing obesity. 00:58:04 Speaker 1: Well, if those foods are unhealthy, though, and if you agree with that, why should we be advertising them. 00:58:10 Speaker 4: Look, I think it's we're talking about illegal product here. It's not tobacco, it's not alcohol. We're talking about illegal product. And if you know, strangers are struggling at the moment with cost of living, Matthew and businesses are simply struggling to survive. If we're going to take these pretty draconium policy approaches, they've got to be based on hard evidence and they've got to consider that broad impact on jobs in the economy. And the fact is the evidence base is really weak. You know. Ad bands simply don't work where they've been introduced around the world. 00:58:37 Speaker 9: In the UK, they. 00:58:39 Speaker 4: Introduced some of the strictest food strictest restrictions on food advertising to kids. 00:58:44 Speaker 12: In the world. 00:58:46 Speaker 4: Exposure for kids to food ads was cut in half between twenty seventeen, and BC rates stayed the same. In Canada. Even worse at bands we're introduced in just one region Quebec, that region saw and increase in child atbest rates, while the other regions without our bands saw that fall in chinat BCD rates. And then you've got other jurisdicims like Chile that have plane packaging in their supermarkets for confectionery and they've seen quite significant increases in child obesie rates. So it's not saying that we need we don't need to do something. We agree that something needs to be done to really push back against the obesti crisis, but we just know that advertising both advertising bands don't work on their own and they're not that effective response to reducing obesiti. 00:59:34 Speaker 7: Right. 00:59:35 Speaker 1: The Cancer Council had a different view, sue, they said that the bands did work overseas you say they don't. 00:59:42 Speaker 4: I'm just working on the hard facts about what's happened to obesie rates in those areas where they've introduced the bands, and that's in the UK, in Canada and in Chile and all the OBCD rates have gone up there, and it just sort of comes down to we all know the Cancer Council would agree with this that there are a number of factors that need to come together to have that material impact on a BUSTI that's prevention, education, parntal guidance, promotion of healthy eating habits and encouragement of physical activity. Unfortunately, some people think that if you ban ads, it's going to solve the problem. And the fact of the matter is that it just hasn't happened around the world, whether it's been introduced. 01:00:16 Speaker 1: Okay, if they are banned, and the Cancer Council made this point too. Advertisers and you know, the people who sell advertising in for instance London where they have been banned, had no trouble filling those spots. People value outdoor advertising, particularly motion based on buses, the wrap arounds and whatever. No problem filling those spots. Do you imagine there'd be a problem filling them here? 01:00:40 Speaker 4: I think that And this is a really good

question that goes into this concept of the unintended consequences. And as I sort of mentioned before, Matthew, this is a pretty topic and of a climate for a lot of. 01:00:49 Speaker 9: Australians and for businesses. 01:00:51 Speaker 4: And what I think at the moment is the time for regulations and moderation, not regultary overreached in the areas that could have that negative impact on jobs and the economy, and I don't think those unintended consequences are really understood and are sometimes sort of swept under carpet. For South Australia, you're talking about reduced investment in public transport network and that's just the case. You're going to have all those current people that advertise on the public on the public transport in South Australian government assets, they're not going to be doing that anymore. And who's going to wear the burden of that. That will be the government and commuters. And we really think that doesn't mean an increase in prices and ticket prices in the future. You know, I'll just give you some other facts as well. It's a load. Access Economics said last year that three hundred and fifty two million dollars around Australia of public infrastructure is funded by built and maintained by the marketing industry. And that and we know that the stated objectives policy and I understand where they're coming from, but the stated objective this policy is to reduce the sales of the one hundred and forty one billion food and beverage industry. This will flow on effects the jobs to the businesses, to their suppliers to farmers, transports. So it's not that this is the main reason why it shouldn't happen. I'm just saying this is the unintended consequences that need to be considered and if the policy response was seen to be effective around the world. I understand what they're talking about, but it's not. The facts are very clear to say that the BC rates have gone up in all those areas where they're being introduced. 01:02:24 Speaker 1: You do agree, though you've got a vested interest in seeing them continue. 01:02:27 Speaker 4: Now of course, you know that's what that's what our role is. I'm under CEO of the Australian Association National Advertisers. But you know we take a balanced approach on this. We really agree and we want to work with the work with the government and ways to reduce ABC and encourage better health outcomes for public and particularly children. We've got astraight some of the strictest rules in the world when it comes to food and beverage advertising, and those rules effectively ban advertising of unhealthy food to children and are designed to encourage the promotion of healthy eating. I'll just repeat that they prohibit children being targeted with unhealthy food and beverages and there's very significant levels of compliance with these rules. So at the moment we've got one of the strictest systems in the world when it comes to food and average with food and beverage advertising. So I think it's about the proportionate response. We're talking about here, we're talking about a legal good, we're talking about food, and when the government's saying you can't advertise that particular food and this is going to solve obesity, and I just don't think that those things match up when you look at the facts. 01:03:30 Speaker 1: We have banded on TV though, haven't we during kids hours? And that is junk food ads and the like, so they can't be on TV. I forget the Times four to seven or whatever it is. But has that made a difference. I suppose you'd look at that to start with. 01:03:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you need to look at we need to still got facts and evidence based doesn't have an impact And also is this a priority for Australians at the moment? You know, we just Nielsen did some research that we're going to be released in the next couple of weeks. It talks about you know, they're saying it's not they don't believe advertising bands will lead to a healthier lifestyle. Seventy one percent said they're satisfied with the current unhealthy food advertising restriction, sixty five percent said they felt that additional restrictions are unnecessary, and seventy four percent said they want health education and subjdies for healthy food over additional bands. And it's all about this thing about emphasizing the role of education and in importance of informed decision making, not just going all the way to the extremely're saying we're going to ban unhealthy food advertising, right, and that distinction there is really important, Matthew. At the moment you can't you can't target children with unhealthy food and beverages, and the extremely high levels of compliance with that, and going to the extreme here saying we're going to ban the advertising of all unhealthy food. 01:04:44 Speaker 10: I just don't think it's the ends er. 01:04:45 Speaker 1: Okay, Josh, appreciate your time, Thank you, Thanks very much, Josh Fakes. From the outdoor advertising people who are concerned about what this ban might mean, this is the state government looking at banning junk food ads for chop Plet's, soft drinks, fast food on buses, trains, trams, shelters, train stations, you name it, the Outdoor Media Association and the Association of National Advertisers saying not the way to go, as you heard. You probably have your own thoughts on that. Matthew. I'm thinking if people are addicted to fast food, it's like smoking and drugs. They know it's bad, but don't care, says Helen. Think about jobs and economy. Excuse give me a break. It's a public health crisis. Overweight people are a burden to health services, says Phil and Tim says has advertising bands? Have advertising bands reduced the rate of smoking or has it been education and health reasons along with making it very expensive? Thank you for those regarding the trees on the parade, Jack says, councils are more worried about trees than lives. The road is a mess, Lisa's quite right. You drive west particularly and

east for that matter, just not quiet as bad, but west it's dreadful, particularly around the nord Oval Colonists Hotel sort of area, Sydenham Road. I suppose that is on that corner, is that Sydenham whatever that one is. It is just really bad through there on the outside lane, the lane next to the median strip, so council get onto that. Lisa is spot on. And if you're on a motorbike in that lane unaware of what is looming in terms of just how uneven, badly uneven the road surface is along there, then you're going to be in strife if you're coming along at sixty k's which is the speed limit through that part of the parade, and you hit the uneven surface there. Yeah, if you don't like roller coasters, well this is more than that. This is just it's just shocking. We've been seeing the terrible fires in LA and it's winter time over there, which makes it more just surreal. Really, these big blazers that have destroyed quite a few properties and tragically claimed a couple of lines. Is a Bill Mullen following it in La for seven years is on the line? Is a bill? Good morning, Thank you for coming on. How bad is it? It looks shocking, I must say. 01:07:04 Speaker 2: Oh, good morning. It's absolutely devastating here. There's just been such a substantial loss of property in two lives as well. We're in our Ta Dina, which is a little bit further away, about fifty kilometers from that Pacific Palisades fire, which was one of the first fires to break out in La yesterday, and it's just completely out of control here. Hundreds of properties have gone up in flames before our eyes. The entire main street has been lost, the local church. There's a concerningly a fuel station on fire beside that church as well. So there's a huge area that's been cordoned off. Police are trying to move people on and I've got to say, there aren't many people here, but they're just trying to ensure that that area is safe if there is a big explosure, which they are expecting. But as I'm talking now, we're just driving around the backstreets of our adena and there isn't much less standing. It's completely guarded by fire. 01:08:08 Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Do they have the same warning systems that we do here? It just seems incredible to me seeing some of your footage of people filming from inside their homes. There's ten meters wall of flame literally out the front door, and we're seeing that. Why are they still there? For goodness sake? 01:08:26 Speaker 2: Yeah? Look, I would say that their warning system is very different to ours. I think in this outer Dina area where I am, it's not an area that normally gets fires like this. It's not near a canyon. 01:08:40 Speaker 1: We thought that. 01:08:45 Speaker 2: It is typically quite a flat area, so a lot of people don't have evacuation plans. They're not used to going through, you know, that yearly routine of packing up things and getting out of town like we do at home as well. 01:08:58 Speaker 1: Okay, a thousand properties lost, I understand, still tragically, two lives. Gosh, I'm amazed looking at the footage you've been supplying that it's not far worse than that. 01:09:09 Speaker 2: Yes, and it could be. They're still hopefully not, but they're still assessing the damage. There's a lot of areas that fire crews and police can't get to, so they're not quite sure at this stage how bad it is. So those numbers that we have they're just preliminary numbers. They're still heading back in a lot of the roads that we're passing are blocked off, trees are down, lines are down as life wires, so I think we won't know just how bad it is until much later. 01:09:37 Speaker 1: All right, appreciate the reporters a bill. Thank you. I know you're about to fall for sunrise in the next few minutes, so thank you for that, and good luck over there. Stay safe, no problem. 01:09:48 Speaker 2: Thank you. 01:09:48 Speaker 1: Isabelle Mullin's from seven News, who is in La covering the fires over there, and gosh it, I don't know if you've seen much of the footage, but even what is around this morning, just devastating fires and as I say, people filming on phones from right outside their properties where the flames are so high. What are they doing still inside? It's not good at all. All right. We'll keep you up to date on that across the day as this drama unfolds in the US and hopefully the death toll doesn't rise any further. Here in Australia, we have issues, as you know, with migration and a worker shortage crisis, which according to the Institute of Public Affairs from research they have conducted, is only getting worse. Saxon Davidson, research fellow at the Institute on the line, Saxon, good morning, good morning, thank you for having me, Thank you for your time. So what have you found that the job vacancies, We're just not keeping up with the skills I understand. 01:10:50 Speaker 16: So job vacancy's increased from four percent from the previous quarter and still remain fifty one percent higher than before the pandemic. It has now risen to three high hundred and forty four thousand job vacancies across the economy. And this is a crisis that is now entering its third year or fourth year of existence. And it's not a costless exercise. It costs thirty two billion dollars in lost wages per year and seven billion dollars in lost income tax per year, which could be invested in our infrastructure schools, hospitals and roads. 01:11:23 Speaker 1: I saw some figures earlier this week and you'll probably know the exact number. Was it twenty seven thousand fewer apprentices going through the system this year than last. 01:11:33 Speaker 9: It would be close to that. 01:11:35 Speaker 16: But this is an economy wide issue. It affects industries that are high skills, such as highly technical positions, as well as healthcare. You mentioned construction with tradees, but also your hospitality and retail trade and your low school labor. 01:11:53 Speaker 3: This is economy wide and. 01:11:54 Speaker

16: Also South Australia's particularly hit worker shortages are approximately double if they were pre endemic levels. I mean, it's really an economy wide issue and the government so far has been disinterested in trying to solve it. 01:12:07 Speaker 1: Is it a matter then of trying to fill it with migration, and that seems to be where we've been heading. Hasn't been effective I suppose long term, but created more need for housing. If nothing else, well. 01:12:18 Speaker 16: You're exactly right. It has failed to solve this issue. Since the election of the Albanesia government, we've accepted about over a million migrants, which is unprecedented in Australia's history, and workers soldiers have failed to substantially lower and have risen in the most recent quarter. Our analysis has shown that we should instead be bringing people inside the labor force that are already in Australia but are not looking for work and are not looking for for work because they attacked the highly regressive rates. Australian pensioners, veterans and students face an effective marginal tax rate of sixty six percent should they earn over two hundred and twenty six dollars per week. This is due to a fifty percent clawback applied to their pension or in titleance for every dollar earns over that rate, on top of the normal tax rates on top. 01:13:09 Speaker 1: So tax reform got to be crucial to at least one part of the answer. 01:13:14 Speaker 10: Absolutely. 01:13:15 Speaker 16: I mean because it's proven that migration has failed to work, and instead of relying on a policy option that isn't working, we need to look to something else. So now, analysis shows that if we enacted these tax reforms, we could see an extra five hundred thousand people in the economy looking for work, which would be a great help to fix some of these job vacancies. 01:13:40 Speaker 1: Absolutely, it would all right, have to leave it there, Sexon, appreciate your time, Thank you, thank you for having me. Saxon Davidson, research fellow, Institute of Public Affairs, finding that the worker shortage crisis has only deepened as migration numbers continue into Australia. All right, e eight double two to three, oh, who is my number? News not far away. We're going to talk to the Motor Trades Association on the other side. Your calls too on that number. You can certainly text through four four eight oh wait thirteen ninety five Theresa saying are they going to ban KFC mackas ads at the cricket and football? I bet not got to go the whole hog. Then, don't you lunchbox police at schools? Yet? Kids starve themselves watching TikTok. That's another problem. Hoss says Matthew agree one hundred percent. The bumps on the parade are really dangerous. So are you able to get someone from the council on your show? Craig at Normanville says the answer there is the Council will probably just lower the speed limit on the parade as the solution. It's really bad. They've got to do something, no doubt about that. I see. Donald Trump has been tweeting about the bushfires in California quite a bit, actually, but one in particular, he says, Governor Gavin Newscum It's Newsome, who's the Californian governor refused to sign the water Restoration Declaration put before him. It would have allowed millions of gallons of water from excess rain and snow melt from the north to float daily into many parts of California, including areas that are currently burning in a virtually apocalyptic way. No holding back there. He wanted to protect an essentially worthless fish called a smelsh by giving it less water, and it didn't work, but didn't care about the people of California. Now the ultimate price is being paid. I'll demand this incompetent governor allow beautiful clean fresh water to flow into California. He is the blame for all this. On top of it all, there's no water for fire hydrants and none for fire fighting planes. A true disaster. So Donald Trump putting that statement out in the last little while. On the bushfires that are ravaging California, seventy thousand evacuated, only two dead, which is, while tragic, just amazing the number is that low, but a thousand properties destroyed and officials yet to get into other parts, so potentially it could be worse. A man has escaped any jail time despite committing fraud in winding back a carzodometer by one hundred and fifty thousand kilometers to obtain a twelve thousand dollars profit. And he also interfered, charged with and pleaded guilty to dishonestly dealing with documents. Offenses carry maximum penalties of ten years jail and a ten thousand dollar fine. It's a thirty five year old ming Jin Ming Mingi Jin walked out of the Adelaide Magistrates Court yesterday slap on the wrist, and that would have observer's car group's concern. Like the Motor Trades Association case, Cilessian is on the line. Good morning to you, and it is concerning, isn't it that this can happen. People can effectively be ripped off in buying a car they think is well as it looks, not the case necessarily. 01:17:06 Speaker 3: Good morning, Matthew. I've got to say that from our perspective, this sentence is an absolute cop out. It's a cop out for the South Australian public who just continue to get ripped off by dodgy private vehicle sellers. And in our view, the judicial system can no longer protect the public. Then it's our view that we need to change our laws. 01:17:24 Speaker 1: The reason he didn't get a conviction, or one of them at least, he's a man from China and a conviction, according to the judge, might affect his capacity to travel to his homeland. I don't know how that affects us why we should be concerned with. 01:17:35 Speaker 3: That, Yeah, I do question. Look, I ultimately there was a decision for the court. But ultimately, when it comes to the South Australian public, we see time and time again that unfortunately this private vehicle sale area is just a hotbed of this activity. This is another classic example of bringing

a car from inter state because we have the weakest laws in the country. It's just turned into the wild West on Facebook marketplace in country and South Australians are not protected. They're just actively being preyed upon. 01:18:08 Speaker 1: Now laws were toughened in this capacity. Only what in the last six or so months is my recollection that secondhand dealer's backyard trade as all of that were suffered a crack down, if you like, a crack down by the state government, toughening the laws under which they trade for one of a better term. And yet the courts don't seem to have got that message. 01:18:29 Speaker 9: Yeah. 01:18:29 Speaker 3: Look, I will give credit to the state government. We did call for odomeita tamprint penalties and unlicensed vehicle dealing penalties to be significantly increased, and to Minister Michael's credit, she did listen to that and implemented those improvements. Probably what I would say for that is it's the ambulance sometimes at the bottom of the cliff, that is after someone has been ripped off this after something has happened. What the Motor Trade Association is calling for is that we need to do something before a vehicles even put up for sale. We do need to have that vehicle in expected the seller should be looking after that. And so for this dodgy person who is ripped off or tried to rip off people with a woundback odometer simply just couldn't do it in South Australia if we'd had our laws change. 01:19:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that needs to happen, and courts also need to get the message there that we would expect as citizens to be looked after when somebody's accused and pleading guilty to the sort of offense they do have at least a conviction recorded, which this person escaped as well. That's just unbelievable. Similar or a kind of related story, DoD you talk about Facebook marketplace being the world West and eBay and all the rest. Somebody has been caught out on Facebook, caught out. He's the victim of this in that he was impersonated and the message read or the impersonation was trying to have him sell a car, but somebody else would have pocketed the money. 01:19:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very concerning. You know, while it is a reminder that things like two factor authentication are very important, at the end of the day, again just proves our point that, you know, the online area for private vehicle sales is seen as a weak spot, as a loophole, and a place where people are trying to make a lot of money at other people's expenses. So I do feel concerned about that person, and obviously it sounds like it might have been someone close to him, but regardless, it's something that should be addressed. And I think, like I said earlier, if we do have these protections upfront, if buyers are expecting that the person who's selling them a vehicle will have a inspection certificate from an authorized government inspector of its condition and any issues, they will be far better protected than they are today

where they're just getting ripped off. So I would say to anybody if they are looking to buy a car that before you hand over any money, just see the vehicle in person and take it for a test drive. Always have the vehicle inspected by your trust than local mechanics. But wherever possible, we do encourage people to buy from licensed vehicle dealers. That way, you do know you are protected under law from Australian consumer law, statutory to warranty etc. 01:21:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd have to say that. I mean the volume of car has been advertised on Marketplace for instance, or eBay for that matter, or you know wherever it is, car sales dot com. The greater majority would be absolutely legit. It's only a handful. You would think, I don't know what the percentage would be, one, five, ten, Would it be as high as that? 01:21:30 Speaker 9: That? 01:21:30 Speaker 1: Perhaps aren't well. 01:21:32 Speaker 3: What we do know is that in South Australia, three out of every four used vehicles are sold privately through platforms such as Facebook, Marketplace and gum Try. And the fact that we've got some of the least protecting laws in the country, we do have people that are targeted. It's more prevalent than you would think. 01:21:50 Speaker 2: We had. 01:21:50 Speaker 3: For example, with Vehicle Inspections Day that we conducted late last year, we had a poor young fellow who bought what he thought was a good car, managed to get a thousand dollars worth of repairs after he got ripped off by the seller, and then once we got it up on the hoist we found more concerning problems with it. It was also likely an odometer swap. In this case, the whole dash had likely been swapped. Was also likely in a serious accident, so it was welded underneath and had some pretty dodgy repairs underneath. So you know, it is really sad to see these people because not everybody knows a lot about cars, and not everybody has that family member or supporter who can be with them there to help them negotiate when they're at a driveway or just talking to somebody online. 01:22:36 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:22:36 Speaker 1: Oh, that's the thing, isn't it. We're not experts, most of us probably are. You need to be working in the biz or have a real keen interest to be able to do all of that, and I wouldn't be able to do it, and not a clue. You look at a car and it looks okay, and the way you go, you'd think you'd hope. But so concerning that people are still doing that, swapping out dashboards for goodness sake and ripping people off blatantly work that I. 01:23:01 Speaker 3: Think ultimately, you know, it's important that a vehicle gets up on a hoist, And while some critics have said, look, we're just talking about tires and lights, it's much more than that. We need to look at the engine, the underbody, steering suspension. You need to get it to check to see whether it's got finance going on. It whether it's like I've said, been in a serious accident. There's so much that could and must

be checked before a vehicle is sold privately to protect out Australians. 01:23:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, all right, appreciate your time this morning, Casey as always, thank you you too. Caselession from the Motor Trade Association of sant On Dodgy Sales. So this bloke, you may have seen the report in the Tizer today or online, has walked from court, no conviction recorded. He benefited to the tune of twelve grand pleaded guilty to ripping someone off in selling them a dodgy car and dishonestly dealing with the documents accordingly. So two charges, plead guilty, the judge saying, well, nothing to see here. Off you go. Somebody's saying the common denominator in all crimes and essays weak judges. You would think again, there'd be a lot of judgments every day that wouldn't raise the eyebrows at all because they're right. But it only takes a couple of ones where you go, what the heck happened there? That throws that sort of reputation of judges under the bus. And that's the problem alright, nineteen past eight on five double A. Let's have a look at the roads around Adelaide. 01:24:29 Speaker 13: See if you're laz and married at the moment Marion Road near Hamilton High d you'd to urge in electrical works. What am I getting fixed at Lines North Military Road in New Seafood Street? And if heading into the city today, I got some roads closed around the Victoria's Square area for the setup of the tour down und A Village for another year. Cameras Anzac Highway, Glenell North and your farmer getting set up right now? Cut more terrorists at Henley Beach. Everyone's favorite Bear returns to the big screen alongside Olivia Coleman and Antonio Banderis. Get your tickets to Paddington and Peru in cinemas now it's most agular traffic. I'm five double line. 01:25:02 Speaker 1: Thank you. And we've got a statement from the Minister for Health, Chris Pickton, regarding the chatter bit earlier about advertising outdoors on buses, trains and trams. This is from the groups that support that advertising. Unsurprisingly, their vested interest is well these ads should continue, but the Minister saying Cancer Council evidence demonstrates SA children are bombarded by unhealthy food and drink ads every day. Evidence based, common sense policy endorsed by the Cancer Council, Public Health Association and the Royal Australasian College of Physicians, who have more expertise about public health than the outdoor advertising industry lobbyists. I don't think there's any arguing with that. Still a bit overcast out there, very overcast. Cloud will clear According to the Bureau, thirty three is out top twenty three at the moment. Chance of a thunderstorm about the hills in the early afternoon. So when will that cloud clear? Wins eas to southeast fifteen to twenty k's tending west southwest to thirty k's in the middle of the day, then south the southeast late afternoon, So okay, cloud clearing the sun fully out the next few days, next four in fact, until the cloud returns on Tuesday. But it's hanging around for a bit today. Cloud clearing the forecast though, and thirty three, so it should at some point, maybe lunchtime ish, fine up. But it does look a bit overcast in gray outside at the moment. All right, let's talk about our roads sort of a continuation to what the MTA was going on, but on different issues and Tour down Under. A big announcement yesterday by the TDU Stuart A. Grady and the Police Commissioner Grant Stevens about road safety. The RAA endorsing that and calling for respect from all road users, including cyclists and pelotons as we move into Tour down Under phase in Adelaide, Matte Mashu days from the RAA on the line, geta matt good morning. So all right, that's an important message and we hear it every year, I suppose on the whole it goes off. Ok. We're all respectful, but sometimes particularly motorous you get stuck behind a group of cyclists, whether it's you know, January or July, it doesn't matter. It can become frustrating if they're sort of hugging the road. 01:27:14 Speaker 17: Yeah, it certainly can be a little bit frustrating getting caught behind a group. And you know this time of year especially, you know, we've got an increased interest in cycling, more people traveling to Adelaide to experience the event, and a lot of people like to get involved either as participants that practice in the week prior, but also you know, the visitors to the state that like to experience the roads as well, So we're certainly going to see a lot more people out cycling, and people that drive especially you know, through the hills and the foothills, will will certainly be noticing that increase. So we know there's some pretty alarming statistics as well. 01:27:53 Speaker 10: In relation to this. 01:27:54 Speaker 17: We've seen increasing number of serious injuries involving cyclists over the last few years. So something we all really need to be mindful of is that safety should be paramount. You know, it can maybe take an extra minute or so to wait for a safe passing opportunity, but that's really important for the safety of everybody. 01:28:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, so all right, if you're a driver, will start there. What are the rules? What should you be looking out for? 01:28:18 Speaker 17: Yeah, so the really important one is to do with the passing distance. So when the speed limits sixty kilometers now or less, when passing a cyclist, you need to allow at least one meter and a little bit more would be great if possible. And when the speed limits greater than sixty kilometers an hour, then that's when you've got a one and a half meter minimum. And once again, if you can allow a little bit more space. That's excellent. One other thing is if you are driving somewhere more constrained. Adelaide Hills is the perfect example of this. You often have the solid a single or double center line. So these lines typically you can't cross to overtake, but there is an exception to overtake a cyclist if you

can tell that the coast is clear to do that safely. 01:29:01 Speaker 1: Not everyone knows that though, and that can become frustrating too when you're stuck behind someone. 01:29:06 Speaker 17: Yes, no, it's very true, and it's why we try to get this message out as well, to make sure as many people are aware of these rules. 01:29:13 Speaker 1: All right. The Dutch rule reach rather is worth reminding people about when you're leaving your car on the driver's side. 01:29:21 Speaker 12: Yeah, absolutely so. 01:29:22 Speaker 17: The Dutch reach involves opening the driver's door before you leave with your left hand, which forces you to look over your shoulder and for any cyclist that might be approaching from behind and passing your parked vehicle, this is really important. We know these dooring related crashes. As a cyclist moving at twenty to thirty kilometers an hour, having a door open in front of you can be quite terrifying and often can result in very serious injuries as well. So it's a really important technique to be practicing. 01:29:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, all right, if you're a cyclist, what should you be doing, particularly in terms of riding abreast two, three, four, five, whatever the number. 01:30:00 Speaker 17: Yes, absolutely, respecting other road users and the roads you're riding around, and making sure that if there's an opportunity to, you know, tuck in a little closer to the left to allow people to pass. When riding abreast, it's a maximum of two cyclists riding abreast, and if there is an active bike bike lane, so if it's within hours on the side, those cyclists must both be within the bike lane. Obviously, if it's a weekend and the bike plane isn't active, that doesn't necessarily apply there. So it's two abreast. If a cyclist a third cyclist is overtaking, that's also okay. But for that side by side continuous riding, it's a maximum of two. 01:30:40 Speaker 1: All right, maximum of two. So if there's three or four side by side, well that's not on. 01:30:45 Speaker 17: Yeah, look, they shouldn't be doing that because you know, once again that limits the access to the road for everybody else as well. So look, if you are in a group of cyclists and you do happen to be, you know, a little bit wider than this, just be really mind fort of other vehicles traveling around you and make sure that there's plenty of space to allow them to pass. 01:31:06 Speaker 1: All right. The Ria, of course, on a different matter, represents motorists. Do you have a view on the suggestion the four wheel drives will be banned from large areas of the York Peninsula and the concern is that could be extended across the state. 01:31:20 Speaker 17: Yeah, Look, it's an interesting discussion. It's one you know, from a safety perspective, we know that often like some of the coastal areas can be quite hazardous for driving on. So there's certainly maybe some safety elements to this, but I know there's also some culture, cultural and heritage

concerns as well. So look, I was doing a little bit of research along the York Peninsula earlier this morning where some of this discussion is sort of kicking off, and look, it's one that we're looking into. And obviously there's a lot of different sides to this one. So look, from a safety perspective, we know that there as the speed limit on beaches, as we know last year was reduced to forty kilometers an hour, so look, that's starting to cover that, but there might be some other potential concerns as well around this. 01:32:08 Speaker 1: All right, appreciate your time, Matt, Thank you, Hey, welcome, Thank you. Matt Vshude, Senior traffic engineer at the RAA on those issues. Got a photo from Denise, Denise, horrible photo, thanks for sending it through of her husband's hand and she says, this is what happened to my husband last week when a car door opened up on him. Lucky really only five stitches and it stretches from the top of the middle finger, you know, the finger on his left hand, the one you'd maybe indicate to motorists who open up a door or motoris used for cyclist alternatively, all the way down on the inside from the fingernail right down across the knuckle and down into the hand itself on the top. Horrible looking injury. Again, thanks a lot for the photo, but all stitched up and on the way to recovery, which is good. But a car door opened up on him. Look I've done that to a cyclist. He avoided it, fortunately, and yelled out at me, and richly deserved. I couldn't disagree with him, just totally forgot to look, just jumped out of the car and this bloke fortunately was back at the back end of the car and had time without anything next to him to swerve around. So it's easily done and could have been a lot worse if he was a fraction closer. Sorry, should have pre warned you, says Dit Denise, rather thanks Denise. It's all right, I've seen worse, but anyway, there it is, so take care if you're getting out of a car. That Dutch reach where you do reach around is actually pretty useful. Speaking with the RAA just a little while ago and mentioning the four wheel drive van across the York Peninsula, that is a plan put forward that I imagine four wheel drivers fear could be spread around the state. Few responses, one from Jack saying the banning of vehicles on beaches for cultural purposes is the biggest load of rubbish I've ever heard. Another person saying banning four wheel drive in some beach areas could seriously affect some of the towns around those areas. 01:34:14 Speaker 15: Well. 01:34:14 Speaker 1: Let's put all that to Greg Chase, who's president of the Four Wheel Drive Association of Say, Greg good mining, good morning, that dere So this proposed ban. What does it mean for if you can't put a four wheel drive? I suppose that's why you buy it. If you can't put it on sand, what's the point of having it? 01:34:30 Speaker 9: Well, that's part of the story. A lot of people buy full drives for a lot of reasons. But we've obviously had a lot more full drives in the last ten or so years and this is putting increased pressure on coastal environments. But the unfortunately blanket bands are not the way to go. 01:34:49 Speaker 1: What is the way to go? 01:34:51 Speaker 9: I think there's got to be some management in busy times and unfortunately that might be some sort of serments or things like. But it's very unfortunate to close out large areas of our state and full drive South Australia is very concerned that this is the start of a trend for closing down further beaches. 01:35:12 Speaker 1: Yes, where's it stand at the moment? Is the York Peninsula now closed off the beaches that are talked about there you can't go? Or is that just a proposal At this stage? 01:35:22 Speaker 9: There's a Management Plan proposal in place. The band that is currently starting on the third of February is for overnight camping on Waratah Beach. But there's not many places you can legally drive on your peninsula at the moment anyway, so most of it is already fairly well managed. 01:35:43 Speaker 1: Will an overnight ban make a difference because if you can get the vehicle there during the day, well, what difference does it make if you camp overnight or not? 01:35:54 Speaker 9: I guess the concern is that in busy times of the year, like just right now, the school holiday's time in, there's a lot of people and that puts pressure on resources. But on a year round brace that's spread over and it's not so serious. 01:36:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand that a permit system sounds like a you know, I don't know if it's a happy compromise for you, but it's a compromise at least that people will still be able to do exactly that. 01:36:20 Speaker 9: I mean, our members wouldn't like to see a permit system in but realistically, when there's large numbers of people relatively close to Adelaide, so it's a fairly short drive, it's hard to see any other way. 01:36:33 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, that's it, So, I mean you could live with that if that was the outcome, as opposed to just no access whatsoever. That would be more sensible to me. 01:36:42 Speaker 9: It's a much better outcome than no access altogether, which some groups pushing for at the moment. 01:36:50 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely so, all right, we're too next for this is a matter of lobbying politicians. From your perspective, is that what you've got to do now. 01:36:58 Speaker 9: There's been a mold year engagement strategy happening that we've been participating in. I've attended several meetings and there's a draft consultation process. But yeah, it is the time if your listeners are concerned about this, to write a short letter to your local politician and put your views forward. I mean, they do respond to interest from people and need to know what people generally think. 01:37:26 Speaker 1: I've got to say. And I've only been on beaches in Karswell apart from all Dinger I suppose, which isn't too much of an effort. But you don't need a

four wheel drive to do that. I did it in the same is a very different beach, yeah, correct, correct, But in media four wheel drives, I've been out to places on the Kuung and whatever, and you need a four wheel drive to get there. I mean, the only other way of seeing that if four wheel driving was banned in a lot of these places is to walk. And I've got to say you'd need a reasonable amount of fitness to hike up a I don't know how big they are, but what a ten maybe more met sand dune and self stand that to trudge up there with a lot of gear, whether you're fishing or camping or whatever, and without a vehicle helping you to make that journey. And sometimes it's a long way in to get to the beach from an accessible road. 01:38:19 Speaker 9: There is much of Australia, sorry South Australia's coastline that is really only sensibly accessible by a fordbad drive because the distance is just too large. And of course a lot of people enjoy camping on the beach. A lot of people enjoy driving on the beach. You've got to be sensible, you've got to learn a bit about football driving, lower your tire pressures so that you don't destroy the tracks, and be sensible about it. But it's a very enjoyable past time for a very significant part of our community. 01:38:51 Speaker 1: I reckon for the Texter who as you heard me read them just before you came on. Some small towns could be really affected if people up going in four wheel drives for the purpose of having a holiday on a beach. 01:39:04 Speaker 9: If you look at sort of the areas like road and Beachport down to the south, tourism is a very significant part of the financial activity of those towns, and people come because they can camp and drive and explore those areas. It's got to be done sustainably, and so there's got to be a bit of common sense by both sides, and people must honor tracks that are closed and things like that and not drive anywhere. But the same token, if we close off all beaches, we're changing our cultural quite a bit. 01:39:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, all right, Greg. I will keep a close watch on it and see what happens ultimately. But if you can get at least that the permit system going well, all is not lost, I suppose, and that if that's the best you hope for, well, that's yeah. 01:39:53 Speaker 9: I don't know if that's a current plan the strategy group, but it's the only way I can see that large numbers of people can be sensiblly managed. 01:40:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that makes sense, but anyway, see where it ends up. Thank you for your time today, have a good day you too. Greg Chase, President Four Wheel Drive Association of Essay on a proposal to ban four wheel driving down to the beach in you know, parks and wherever else people currently go. Looking at the York Peninsula first up. The concern is amongst those who enjoy that activity, and it is a good activity to ban that right across Essay, Luke says Matthew no live video stream of your breakfast show, No, Luke, I think we tried a few days ago and it broke the cameras. So no build cars with six wheels, says Rob and Andrews says it's always one sided. With drivers being cautioned ahead of the tour down under, cyclists need to ride more cautiously. You can see them in bike lanes going like a bat out of hell when road traffic is stopped. Gaps given so traffic can turn across stopped traffic into the side streets. I've seen many near misses, but recently a collision. Cyclists need to write to the conditions. What's the point even if you're in the right, If you lose your life, indeed, thank you Andrew one here on Neil, Thank you Neil Hi wondering if you could look into doctors in Yorktown on the York Peninsula. For over a year now we've had no doctors. It takes three months to see one. If and when we can get one, it's a major problem which needs urgent fixing. Thank you Neil for the text. Smeg building or renovating. Your first choice should be visiting the s Meg showroom at Debneed Discribulus Taste the difference with Smeg. Had a Smeg oven for years and it's been quite good for what that's worth. All righty, let's see some texts and I've got this one. There's no name on it. It says what's going on with crime in the CBD. At the moment, my partner's cafe on Flinders Street has had to shut for the second time in a week as our copper pipes have been stolen again. Police are not interested. I'm sure they are. I hope you report it to them because you know you get it fixed a third time. And if they're coming back for more copper, well, hopefully the coppers are coming back to keep an eye on the copper, you'd hope so, But twice in a week copper pipe stolen from a cafe in flindustry shut again today. Unreal. The permit system means show me the money. Somebody says, will the ban on four wheel drives stop beach launching of boats on the York Peninsula? Surely not? From Harriet Henley, Fiona, Fiona from Wallaro He. I don't know if I'm missing something. I'm sure you just said it was five minutes to ten. Maybe I did, Fiona, Thank you for the text. No idea really what I've been saying this morning. But I'm probably more used to saying five to ten than five to nine on the radio over the years. But there it is, all right, thank you. The use of I meant to nine obviously if I said to ten, The use of tractors is the only way to get into the water tractors in a lot of places. Do you mean four wheel drives? Is that what you mean by tractors? Maybe it is tractors in some sandy places. All right, Thank you for those texts. Keep them coming through leath Forest following the news at nine, not ten, In around six and a half minutes from now. Some of the news around the place from the last twenty four hours or so includes the fact yesterday that our inflation rate edged higher to two point three percent in November from two point one in October. The headline figure is expected to shift higher in the official monthly read out from the ABS annual headline inflation reflects the

energy subsidies to rebate payments in some states and territories in October in a lieu of not receiving a payment in July, and from November most households received one. So this is a case of government policy to help ease the cost of living, which is good, works against bringing interest rates down with inflation going up. But the talk is still of a rate cut early next year, which you'd hope for people with loans is on the carts. But if you're a self funded retiree, it's the last thing you need is interest rates coming down. But that's a different story depending on where you are and what stage of life you're in and where your finances are at all of that. So many different messages, and we tried this morning after Lisa's message in earlier about the parade, nor would parade and how bad the road surface is on that outside lane next to the gum trees, particularly city westbound around the Norwood Oval and just passed it as you're heading towards the city around the Colonist's Hotel there by Sydenham Road, where the undulation caused by the tree branches forcing up the bitumen is to say the least extreme. We put in a call to the CEO of the Norwood Council. He's unavailable today. We'll follow that up for tomorrow. I reckon that's worth a chat because if you've driven along there, you're thrown to the roof of your car. And Lisa's concern is if it was a motorcyclist, especially one unaware of the undulations in that outside lane, and it's on both sides of the road, particularly bad on the western approach heading west, a motorcyclist could at sixty k's an hour be thrown off his bike if he's unexpect not expecting it. It's really shocking and my suggestion to the council the tree is totally unacceptable. But if you want them there, if you don't want to remove them and plant something more suitable, then be prepared to fix the road it's not a big ask. I either leave the trees and fix the road, or fix the road and remove the tree so you don't have to keep fixing the road, because it's only been I don't know seven years since they last rebitumized the parade for this very reason. And okay, where the central shopping strip is up by the foodland there, the pedestrian lights is not as bad, but you can still feel the tree roots, particularly in the outer lane on both sides. But for those heading westbound especially, and it's bad eastbound too, but westbound around that pub down there, it's shocking, absolutely shocking, and I've noticed that myself driving along there, try to avoid that section of the parade. In fact, drive on the inside lane to not be thrown around your car like her. I don't know what, just a bouncing ball. I suppose that's what it is. Just terrible, So Nord Council get onto that. We'll put in a cord of the mayor today to try and get him on tomorrow as well. Alrighty, it is three to nine, almost time for me to go. Lots of texts and email, some calls as well this morning. Thank you for all of those and we will do it all again tomorrow. Thank you. Emily working hard, paddling like a duck out there in the Producers area. Stay tuned. Leath Forest will follow the news on five double A and he'll be happy to hear from you. And all sorts of different things as well. Those bush fires in La dominating the new cycle at the moment, with some seventy thousand people evacuated. The death toll remains at two, which is tragic but good. It is so low giving the ferocity of the fires. However, the authorities they're abracing for the worst because there are parts of towns they haven't been able to get to, and they fear the death toll could rise once these areas become accessible. What is amazing is footage from inside of homes showing just a wall of flames literally by the window that they're filming from through, and you think, why have you not evacuated? Why are you still there? But having a chat with a seven reporter covering this a little while ago, they don't sort of work on the same system we do here of having bush fire plans at the ready and all of that, which is pretty amazing given fires in California are fairly regular, but a thousand properties at least destroyed and seventy thousand evacuated in the last little while. It's just incredible news. Not far away on five double A, stay tuned, Least forests to follow. Have a great day, See you tomorrow at six