النص الكامل لحلقة Breakfast with Will Goodings and Stacey Lee - 12th October 2026

work like an extra shift. 00:02:43 Speaker 5: Back then, that used to get you something. 00:02:44 Speaker 3: That's true. You're right. It used to actually. 00:02:46 Speaker 8: Move the dial. 00:02:46 Speaker 3: That's a good point. And one day, yes, I was driving along next to the airport, Tapley's Hill Road, and it conked out, and I had to do the walk of shame to the petrol station and buy the jerry can of shame. 00:02:59 Speaker 5: That's the worst. 00:03:00 Speaker 9: Yes. 00:03:00 Speaker 5: When you have to buy the jerry can. 00:03:02 Speaker 10: Yes. 00:03:02 Speaker 6: Well, there was a point in my life when I just had a jerry can in the car at all times because my old Yaris. 00:03:10 Speaker 3: Hang on. You kept the jerry can because you ran out of petrol that often? 00:03:14 Speaker 11: So often. 00:03:15 Speaker 5: Because my old Yaris didn't tell me when it was running out. 00:03:18 Speaker 9: Okay. 00:03:19 Speaker 6: It did somewhat, but not enough in my mind. So it didn't beep or flash or anything. 00:03:27 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:03:27 Speaker 5: The needle would be low. 00:03:29 Speaker 12: Right. 00:03:29 Speaker 13: Well, on empty. 00:03:30 Speaker 3: On empty. 00:03:31 Speaker 5: But no one looks at that. 00:03:33 Speaker 3: Right, you wanted some more drama. 00:03:34 Speaker 5: I wanted it to be in my face. 00:03:36 Speaker 14: Yes. 00:03:36 Speaker 6: Like beep at me, flash at me, tell me you're about to stop. The car is about to stop. You need to fill up. So I just often overlooked that. I think I've run out of fuel maybe three or four times. 00:03:49 Speaker 3: Is that right? 00:03:49 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's in the last decade. 00:03:53 Speaker 3: That is exceptional. The fact you got your own jerry can. I doffed my cap. That is superb. When have you run out of petrol, folks? Because that's what happened at Bathurst. 00:04:03 Speaker 2: Don't bother. Well, run it out or win. 00:04:06 Speaker 3: It's done. 00:04:06 Speaker 15: It's done. 00:04:07 Speaker 16: He's run out of fuel. 00:04:08 Speaker 11: It's done. 00:04:09 Speaker 2: Brodie Kostecki goes. 00:04:10 Speaker 3: Through to the race lead on the final lap. 00:04:13 Speaker 17: And Anton Di Pasquale has run out of fuel. 00:04:17 Speaker 3: It's a mountain boil over. Extraordinary scenes. Well, that was the moment. The fuel. Oh, that's right. Anton Di Pasquale. Runs out of fuel. Probably wasn't his decision, though, to go back out there. 00:04:30 Speaker 5: Imagine being that guy in the team. It's called a pit stop. 00:04:34 Speaker 18: Isn't it? 00:04:34 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:04:34 Speaker 6: They get there and the car goes up and all the other people in the team have done their job and they've put the tyres on and done whatever they needed to do under the hood and. 00:04:42 Speaker 5: You're standing there with a full jerry can going. 00:04:45 Speaker 3: Did I put enough in? I think we forgot something. Here's the finish to the race. Brodie Kostecki, the driver in the

seat. Obviously, Todd Hazelwood, who we'll speak to later, from South Australia's co-driver. 00:04:55 Speaker 17: This is an extraordinary moment for the starry Dick Johnson Racing. Brodie Kostecki and Todd Hazelwood. 00:05:02 Speaker 19: From the clouds. 00:05:03 Speaker 11: And we, the Revco. 00:05:04 Speaker 17: Bathurst 1000, the great race delivers. 00:05:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great race. And every year, one of the great joys we have is checking in with our 5AA resident Rev head, Sam Datto, who makes the pilgrimage to Bathurst. each and every year. Sam, good morning. I bet you haven't seen too many finishes quite like this one. 00:05:22 Speaker 2: Morning, Will. 00:05:22 Speaker 9: Morning, Stace. 00:05:23 Speaker 14: No, five hours and 54 minutes, the record for the world's quickest ever Bathurst 1000. 00:05:29 Speaker 9: So it was run at lightning pace. 00:05:32 Speaker 14: I'll give you the real quick backstory of, we know Brodie, Kostecki, Todd Hazelwood, they got the win. They came out of nowhere. The second to last pit stop, they were in real trouble. They went back in the field after a slow pit stop. Will Brown and Scott Pye. Also note Scott Pye, another South Australian on the podium. So SA is doing quite well. 00:05:49 Speaker 9: For Triple Eight. Zach Bates and Aaron Seaton, they came in third. They were the story of the weekend. 00:05:53 Speaker 14: Basically the rookies on the grid and they were able to hold their own all weekend. Aaron Seaton, son of a gun. Zach Bates, very long story. He lost his mother last year. He stuck it on pole. He was pretty much the quickest car all weekend. But I'm pretty sure you don't really want to know about the entire 5,054 minutes. You just want to know what happened with Anton and Lee Holder of the Team 18, don't you? Yes. 00:06:13 Speaker 3: Absolutely. With Stacey's question, Sam, was it a case of a bungled pit stop? Because I know there's a lot of excellent mathematicians that are in those teams. Did they just miscalculate? 00:06:29 Speaker 9: So this is the thing. 00:06:31 Speaker 14: It was one of the biggest bungles you'll ever see in Bathurst history. 00:06:36 Speaker 9: It was And this team has formed. 00:06:39 Speaker 14: They ran out of fuel back in 2023, both cars on the last lap. And what makes this even more of an embarrassment for Team 18 is, one, they are the factory General Motors team this year. 00:06:53 Speaker 9: They are what is held up on. 00:06:55 Speaker 14: High regard from General Motors. They pump all their money in. The other thing is they didn't have to... be so tight on fuel they elected to put the amount of fuel in they came out with a 10 second plus lead over zach bates and aaron seaton they could have just put another second or two in so the fact that they were being so aggressive we're trying to get a gap and lead on the field and having a 10 second lead is just an absolute cock up by team 18 and Anton Di Pasquale and Lee Holdsworth, they did everything perfect all weekend, but they got absolutely screwed by their team. 00:07:34 Speaker 3: That's extraordinary. 00:07:36 Speaker 6: I recently learnt this for non-motor sport fans. You don't want to put too much fuel in because it's too heavy. 00:07:40 Speaker 5: Is that right? So if it's lighter, the car goes faster. 00:07:43 Speaker 6: So you kind of have to calculate it to be the perfect amount. 00:07:47 Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly right. 00:07:49 Speaker 14: And you don't want to spend any more time in the pits than you have to, especially when it's... When the race yesterday, there was no safety cars until. 00:07:56 Speaker 9: about five laps to go. 00:07:58 Speaker 14: Since safety cars have been introduced, it's only happened twice, back in the late 80s and back in 1991. So at one point, we're on a record pace for no safety cars as well. So they were trying to just spend a minimal amount of time in the pits, get out and go again. But as I said, he came out with a 10-second-plus lead. All he had to do was put another two seconds of fuel in, have an eight-second lead, and he would have crushed it. 00:08:19 Speaker 9: But also the. 00:08:20 Speaker 14: Safety car coming out shows just how diabolical it is because he a safety car lap, you're using far less fuel. So he runs out of gas on the last lap. If there was no safety car, he would run out with two laps to go. So whoever's done the math here, he's been using the Yaris, Stacey's Yaris math of just hoping and willing. And then as you heard in the audio there at the end, the Chevy hierarchy just said, just don't pit, don't pit, just hope. 00:08:46 Speaker 9: That went well. 00:08:47 Speaker 3: Oh, that's extraordinary. Team 18, the Stacey Lee of, of, of V8 Supercars. I like that. That's terrific. 00:08:53 Speaker 5: That is an unwanted title. 00:08:54 Speaker 3: When you're at the track, Sam, did you have a sense of what was going on? 00:09:00 Speaker 14: It's harder at the track because, yes, we do have all... We have information coming to us from the TV broadcast or I can search Twitter or look at timing screens. So we knew that Anton Dieperskweiler for Team 18 was in trouble, but we didn't really know just how much. I'm watching lap times and watching. 00:09:17 Speaker 9: Zach Bates get a second a lap, a second a lap, a second a lap, thinking... He's either being. 00:09:22 Speaker 14: Extremely cautious, but you wouldn't be stupid enough not to put enough fuel in. So we're all a bit confused. And then the safety car comes out. So we think he's safe. 00:09:30 Speaker 9: Any fuel dramas, there won't be any more. But then he runs out. He doesn't even make it halfway through a lap. 00:09:36 Speaker 14: And just reiterating, back in 2014, Jamie Wincup for Red Bull, this was the same sort of thing. 00:09:41 Speaker 9: He ran out of fuel on the last lap. But that was a position. 00:09:44 Speaker 14: When they all came in a lap early because everyone, well, he came in a lap early because he had to

come in and we're hoping this was a complete balls up by team 18 by just not putting it up in. 00:09:54 Speaker 9: It's just remarkable. 00:09:57 Speaker 3: A remarkable account, Sam. Great to chat with you, mate. And thanks for. for being there for us. We appreciate it. Oh, any time, Will. 00:10:03 Speaker 9: Any time there's a race of that on. 00:10:05 Speaker 3: We know that. Sam Datto, our 5AA resident rev head on the remarkable end at Bathurst. See, does that make you feel better? They have a whole team of people calculating. 00:10:14 Speaker 5: They've got a team of scientists and data analysts. 00:10:16 Speaker 20: Exactly right. 00:10:17 Speaker 21: Engineers. 00:10:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, engineers. And they couldn't get it right. So all of our listeners, don't fear about ringing in. If they can get it wrong, so too can you. When have you run out of fuel? 8223 0000. Lorraine, when did you run out of fuel? 00:10:29 Speaker 20: Well, up at King's Canyon, when I'd gone off the third highway into King's Canyon. 00:10:36 Speaker 9: Yep. 00:10:37 Speaker 20: On the way in, it had a big sign there, fuel here. So off we went with King's Canyon, but the fuels were so expensive that we opted to come back. We got back and they had no fuel. They didn't want to give us any fuel. They had none. Absolutely zero. 00:10:55 Speaker 3: They had none as well. 00:10:57 Speaker 4: Yep. 00:10:58 Speaker 3: Oh, what a disaster. How did you get out of there, Lorraine? 00:11:01 Speaker 20: Well, luckily, there were people that were on tour, which were backpackers. They were French, and I couldn't understand them, but my passenger was from England, so she did a bit of a. 00:11:19 Speaker 20: Conversation with him, we bought a jerry can full of fuel. 00:11:22 Speaker 3: Oh, well done. That's terrible, right? 00:11:26 Speaker 2: Thank you. 00:11:27 Speaker 3: Oh, dear. Michael and Ross, when have you run out of fuel? 00:11:31 Speaker 22: Many times, and I'm going to give Pasquale my pit boss chief tip, and that is when I used to drive my 1982 323 across to the snow in the middle of the night, there would be two jerry cans in the back seat, and I'd push the fuel tank to empty, and know how far I've. 00:11:48 Speaker 15: Gone in. 00:11:50 Speaker 22: The car off to Falls Creek. So Pasquale, we're going to put two jerrycans in the back of your car next time. 00:11:58 Speaker 6: I'm so glad to hear someone else kept jerrycans in their car, Michael. 00:12:01 Speaker 3: Michael kept two. Practical. I'm not sure whether it would pass the V8 safety inspection, having a couple of extra just jerrycans knocking around in the boot. 00:12:08 Speaker 5: The worst thing is your car always has that little smell of it. And anyone gets in your. 00:12:12 Speaker 6: Car and thinks, Is everything okay with your car? 00:12:15 Speaker 5: No, no, it's just the jerry can. 00:12:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, the car is fine. 00:12:18 Speaker 23: The car's fine. 00:12:19 Speaker 3: My Ford planning ability. Actually, no, also fine because you've got a jerry can. 00:12:23 Speaker 5: You get used to it. 00:12:25 Speaker 3: When did you run out of fuel, folks? 8223 0000. Text us on 0248 0813 95. 00:12:29 Speaker 1: Knockdown, build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you. 00:12:39 Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. 00:12:41 Speaker 8: This is 5AA Breakfast. 00:12:45 Speaker 3: 25 after 6. Some great stories coming through on the text line of times you ran out of fuel. 8223 0000. You can contribute to those, which we will be reading out in a moment on 024808 1395. Of course, like last week, we've got the announcement that had been teased and deciphered that Powder Bingo was getting back together. Well, this morning... Some detail has just been released about where and when they will be touring. Adelaide does make the list. October 15 and 16 at Ellis Park, which we've just worked out is behind Adelaide High School in the Parkland Zoo. West Terrace, effectively. I'm sure I've seen sort of weird doof-doof events on there, but I can't recall ever a big band playing there. I only remember. 00:13:34 Speaker 5: A circus. 00:13:35 Speaker 3: Off the east, there's a circus. It's that spot. People picture it on West Terrace. Last time they played it, I think it was on Memorial Drive, so it's going to be a pretty big event. They've got four shows in Brisbane, two in Cairns, two in Perth, four in Sydney, two in Adelaide. Friday 15th and Saturday the 16th of October. And then Melbourne, four shows as well. As some people have pointed out, if you're touring September, October-ish, does that put the AFL Grand Final... Oh... squarely in your sights then? 00:14:05 Speaker 6: But don't they usually, isn't the AFL grand final generally not someone who's doing a big tour? 00:14:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe not. 00:14:11 Speaker 6: Because you could just buy a ticket to their show if you're. 00:14:14 Speaker 5: That much of a fan. 00:14:15 Speaker 3: That's true. Yeah, that is true. I wonder. 00:14:18 Speaker 22: I don't know. 00:14:19 Speaker 3: Well, we'll wait and see. But for Powderfinger fans, Friday the 15th and Saturday the 16th of October next year they'll be here, which is very exciting. Let's do some of these texts about people running out of fuel, because some of these are extraordinary. 00:14:32 Speaker 5: Some great texts here. 00:14:34 Speaker 6: Jeff says, I've run out of fuel going through the KFC drive-through, and I got pushed up to the window by the blokes in the car behind me. 00:14:45 Speaker 5: That's not the worst spot, I think. 00:14:46 Speaker 4: No. 00:14:46 Speaker 5: Because then you can just sit there and wait for RAA. 00:14:49 Speaker 3: Prioritised human fuel over car fuel. 00:14:51 Speaker 13: Yeah, exactly. 00:14:53 Speaker 3: So I don't mind that. And thanks, Rob. 00:14:58 Speaker 6: He says, the song on repeat in Stacey's car. This little light of mine,

I'm going to let it shine. 00:15:03 Speaker 3: It's the empty fuel light. 00:15:08 Speaker 6: Georgia ran out of fuel on the Southeastern Freeway in a police car, thinking I'd make it to Stirling. I had to announce over the radio that I'd run out and needed rescuing. And then for the next week, everyone at work was taking digs at me about it. 00:15:21 Speaker 3: That'd be the worst. You broadcast it so every one of your colleagues gets to hear it. 00:15:25 Speaker 5: How many buns did you owe Georgia for that one? 00:15:27 Speaker 3: That's great. Keep them coming in. 0 to 4808 1395, or you can give us a call. Tom Renz in the 5AA Breakfast Studio. Agostina Mitsubishi's demo clearance on now. Save them for Jero Sport, ASX, Triton, Outlander, Nailsworth and Mawson Lakes. Morning to you, Rennie. 00:15:41 Speaker 24: Morning, Will. 00:15:41 Speaker 3: Morning, Stacey. 00:15:42 Speaker 25: We'll get into the winners and losers. You just had Sammy on, and he was talking about Bathurst. That's obviously the big weekend. So easy to start there. Todd Hazelwood, Brodie Kostecki, clearly the winners but the losers. Well, Team Deeper Squall and Holdsworth, that's just shattering, isn't it? 00:15:58 Speaker 3: What a gutting way to lose a race. 00:15:59 Speaker 12: Terrible. 00:16:00 Speaker 3: A few people that were watching have texted saying they were interviewed on the TV coverage with 10 laps to go. And the interview just threw in as a question, happy with the fuel situation? Yeah, we're happy with it. And they said it twice. Yep, no issues there. Someone hasn't carried the two or something or other, and they've calculated that. 00:16:17 Speaker 25: There'll be a fairly big, I think, post-mortem after that, you would think. But that's pretty devastating for them. Other winners over the weekend, cricket was really good from an SA perspective and Australian. Matt Renshaw, a lot of people saying, why wasn't he in this side sooner? He dominated, 190 for Australia. Steve Smith overnight, I think he's taken the most catches, equal most by non-keeper, 223. He took four in the South African first innings. Aussies are well on top there. They lead by 139, two days to play. So you would think in the driver's seat to push a result now, Australia. 36 is a great win yesterday. 00:16:53 Speaker 3: Amazing win. Really good win. 00:16:55 Speaker 25: Again, Kendrick Davis doesn't cover himself in glory. He sort of pushed and shoved with Bryce Cotton late in the game and then went on X afterwards and sort of carried his beef further. 00:17:07 Speaker 3: Their rivalry is so good for the NBL. It's great. 00:17:10 Speaker 25: The NBL are loving it. 00:17:11 Speaker 3: It's brilliant. 00:17:12 Speaker 10: They are loving it. 00:17:14 Speaker 3: If you care at all about basketball, wherever you are, whatever you're doing, you'll be watching the next Sixers-Kings game. 00:17:19 Speaker 25: I think it's December 13 because Kendrick Davis tweeted it. 00:17:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. 00:17:23 Speaker 25: Yeah, he said, bring it on. There is no love lost there. And Cotton holding up six fingers on the MVP six times in his face. 00:17:31 Speaker 3: Like it was– It was pretty good theatre. Yeah, and a great win. 00:17:35 Speaker 25: And a great win. They had to win that. So they're 3-4 now, stat that three-game losing streak. SA Cricketers, I mentioned, a really good weekend. They won that game outright. Great to see SA just bossing Victoria. We've been bossed by them for so long, but they smashed them. 00:17:50 Speaker 9: They really did. 00:17:50 Speaker 25: So that was a good game and a great win. Well done, Ryan Harris and the team. And a good weekend for the women for Port Adelaide and the Crows. They both had wins. That's a great result. Keeps their slim final soaps alive, which was great to see. 00:18:01 Speaker 3: Magnificent work. Good on you. Thanks, Will. 00:18:03 Speaker 9: Thanks, Stace. 00:18:07 Speaker 1: Knockdown Bill 2 with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes. 00:18:14 Speaker 26: They do it all for you. 00:18:16 Speaker 8: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast. 00:18:21 Speaker 3: 20-7, dramatic end to Bathurst yesterday with the race leader running out of fuel in the last lap. If there was a movie pitched about it, you would say, well, that stretches belief. It happened, and we're asking you about the times you've run out of fuel. Tell me what else stretches belief. The idea that anyone would vandalise... War memorials and still plaques of people's names. It's happened twice now in Adelaide in just a period of four or five days. We'll be chatting with the McGill RSL Vice President about that in just a moment. But, Brad, you've run out of fuel. 00:18:56 Speaker 10: Yeah. 00:18:56 Speaker 27: Good morning, Will and Steve. I've been going back a few years. I flew up to Cairns. My mate and his missus were up there on their Harleys. She had to fly back to Adelaide for some reason, so they asked me to ride her Harley back to Adelaide. But in the meantime, we went for a short ride up to Port Douglas, which is only 70km away from Port Douglas. And on the way back, we went to Yorkie Snob for lunch. And the Harley I was riding, he forgot to fill it up, Rick, and the bloody thing ran out of fuel. And I was sitting at the bus stop there in Cairns for about half an hour waiting for him to get fuel. And I felt like Boris Gump because there was a woman sitting there who told me a life story. The only thing I knew was a box of chocolate. So I gave my old mate Rick Jarman a payout every time about that. 00:19:48 Speaker 3: Good on you, Brad. 00:19:49 Speaker 26: Brad. 00:19:50 Speaker 3: For being patient and a good listener. Thank you. If you've got more stories for us, keep them coming in, 8223 0000. Let's talk about this series of headlines. There was another one yesterday that our mate Hayden Nelson for Seven had about a Ridge Park Memorial, which

you were saying is your sort of local park, Stacey. 00:20:08 Speaker 11: Yep. 00:20:09 Speaker 3: 105-year-old memorial obelisk there, a plaque that has the veterans, the people whose names, people who died, names on it. 00:20:16 Speaker 5: I walk past it all the time with Molly and Murray. 00:20:18 Speaker 3: It was ripped off, which in isolation is just a single act of idiocy, but it follows a situation where at the Gums War Memorial on Thursday of last week, there are five plaques that all have names of, again, people who have died, Ripped off and destroyed. Clearly something happened. They didn't do the fifth one. Rick Manilay is the vice president of the McGill RSL. Rick, good morning. 00:20:43 Speaker 4: Good morning. 00:20:44 Speaker 2: How are you? 00:20:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we'd be better if not for talking about this kind of stupidity, Rick. 00:20:50 Speaker 4: Couldn't agree more. 00:20:52 Speaker 3: I saw you on Seven talking about that the problem is you've got to deal with presumably families and things will be noticing this and speaking to you at the RSL and Are you going to try and make sense of this crazy modern world? 00:21:06 Speaker 4: Look, I don't know if you can, to be honest. It's a strange thing because when we first heard about it on Friday night, obviously you're angry, right? And then you start thinking about it more and then you start thinking about the obscure. Like, you know, I just had visions of people walking through the gums thinking, Well, that's not very well upkept. They've got plaques missing and everything, not knowing the story. So being able to tell that story. 00:21:37 Speaker 18: Is really good. 00:21:39 Speaker 5: Rick, I don't know if this is a silly question, but what are the plaques made of? I'm assuming it's not gold. Is it valuable? 00:21:46 Speaker 4: Well, I think the plaques are all made of brass. And it's not that valuable. You know, when you think, I mean, you wouldn't think you could just walk into a second hand shop with these plaques under your arm and say, well, will you give me for that? So they've obviously got to melt them down. Now, the amount of gas that you would, I would think would take to melt these plaques into something you could take to, you know, a recycle place would probably cost you more than what the plaques are worth. 00:22:15 Speaker 3: So it's just a wanton act of stupidity. 00:22:17 Speaker 4: As in brass value, that is. 00:22:18 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:22:19 Speaker 3: Um, what's the cost to replace them, Rick? 00:22:23 Speaker 15: The cost, I don't know. 00:22:24 Speaker 4: Um, uh, The government are looking at that for us. Yeah, I honestly couldn't tell you the cost because we haven't got that far into it. But this is the second time for us. The last time, admittedly, it was 2020. There was two plaques stolen then, and that was on the 8th of April, leading up to Anzac Day. And, of course, this one leading up to Remembrance Day. 00:22:51 Speaker 3: I've seen those

plaques, Rick. They don't look like they'd be easy just to rip off. 00:22:56 Speaker 4: No, there wouldn't be. 00:22:57 Speaker 3: So are people using tools? 00:23:00 Speaker 4: Oh, they'd have to be. I know that the plaques like the bolted on, but they used the special glue as well. You know, it'd take a fair bit to get them off. But look, there was four plaques taken. One was a Gums dedication, a Gums War Memorial Garden plaque, our First Nations plaque, and the Biggie, the Ode of Remembrance. And the fifth plaque was in relation to poppies, but they didn't get that one off. You could see it being tampered with, but it wasn't going to go anywhere. And I don't know what the answer is. Do you replace them with something less valuable? And if you do, does that take away the fact that the whole meaning of what the plaques are about? I don't know. 00:23:51 Speaker 3: What a sad thing to have to contemplate. Well, you know what, Rick? It's a beautiful memorial there, that one at the Gums. And it would be really special and important to people, most people in the community, I think, that go to Anzac Day and other events there. So whatever you come up with, I reckon people will get it and they'll be on board. And I just, like everyone, struggle to find the words to describe this kind of stupidity. Thanks for talking to us, mate. We appreciate it. 00:24:18 Speaker 10: Absolutely. 00:24:19 Speaker 4: Thank you very much for the time. 00:24:20 Speaker 3: Rick Manilay, the McGill RSL Vice President who've got carriage of that Memorial of the Gums. If you haven't seen it before, jump online and have a look. It's actually, it's really beautiful. The idea you'd walk in the middle of that and start ripping things off the wall is... Well, again. 00:24:33 Speaker 5: Yeah, we can't make sense of that. 00:24:35 Speaker 3: We are wasting too many words on the sort of person that doesn't need too many words wasted on them. This reminds me, sometimes we imagine scenarios where these things are premeditated or political where sometimes they're just idiocy. It reminds me of that bench being stolen from outside the restaurant last week. 00:24:54 Speaker 9: Yeah. 00:24:54 Speaker 3: It was on the news. People might have seen social media footage of it. 00:24:57 Speaker 5: It looked like a normal family. 00:24:59 Speaker 3: They looked like a normal group of people. 00:25:01 Speaker 6: Walking home after dinner and they saw a bench and went, Oh yeah, let's take that. Just look like a mum and daughter. Just pick it up and keep walking. 00:25:07 Speaker 3: You sent that through and I thought, oh, well, there's going to be some sort of, you know, I profiled the hooded teen. I thought that's what it's going to be. No, it wasn't. Just a regular middle-aged family walking through. Thought they'd help themselves to a bench. Anyway, you never know who the idiots are out there. Let's go to the weather bureau. Ursula Connor, good morning. 00:25:25 Speaker 8: Morning. 00:25:26 Speaker 3: Yesterday was a pretty remarkable old weather day, wasn't it? 00:25:30 Speaker 7: Yeah, it got quite hot in the end there yesterday. We were up to nearly 30 degrees, 29.6 at West Terrace there. And then some pretty decent storms rolling through during the afternoon and evening period. Plenty of hail seen through the Brighton, Seacliff, Merino areas. And look, most of the city picking up. At least something in the gauges, but there's plenty sort of through the foothills with sort of 10 to even 15 millimetres in the gauges there. So, yeah, a bit of everything yesterday. 00:26:04 Speaker 3: And what have we got for the week ahead? 00:26:07 Speaker 7: The week ahead? Well, the system that has sort of been causing the showers and thunderstorms across much of the state and brought those to Adelaide yesterday has now sort of cleared to the northeast. So... For the metro area, a bit of low cloud this morning and the very slight chance of a light shower, but otherwise relatively clear conditions. A bit of a cooler air mass over us now, pretty stark contrast in the temperatures yesterday to today. The city only going for a top of 19. Glenelg, Elizabeth, Norlunga and Mount Barker all going for 18 degrees today. We see similar conditions into tomorrow, relatively cloudy, the chance of a morning shower and temperatures in those sort of high teens, but then conditions sort of tending a little bit warmer towards the end of the week. We're still going to be dominated by a ridge of high pressure, so relatively settled, but gradually just seeing those temperatures warm up towards the end of the week. 00:27:06 Speaker 3: All right, good stuff, Ursula. Thank you for that, Ursula Connor, at the Weather Bureau. Let's head to Saipol. Senior Constable Holly Frisby joins us. Holly, police are investigating a stabbing at Salisbury North overnight. 00:27:16 Speaker 12: Yeah, good morning, Will. Just before midnight, police and SA Ambulance were called to reports of a stabbing at Waterloo Corner Road. A 27-year-old woman from Morfett Vale sustained multiple stab wounds and was treated at the scene by paramedics and conveyed to hospital in a stable condition. An 18-year-old woman from Norlunga Downs presented to the Salisbury Police Station a short time later where she was arrested without incident. Investigations are in their early stages and police do believe that this was a random incident and the women are both known to each other. And anyone with information that has not already spoken with police is asked to contact Crimestoppers on 1800 333 000. Okay. 00:27:54 Speaker 5: And tell us what happened at the Barossa, Holly. 00:27:57 Speaker 12: About 12.30 this morning, police and emergency crews were called to Macoulter Road, Penrice, which is near Anguston, following reports of a Kia SUV which had left the road unrolled. The driver, a 36-year-old Tanunda man, sustained non-life-threatening injuries and was taken to hospital for assessment and mandatory blood

tests. The vehicle sustained significant damage and was towed from the scene and investigations into this crash are continuing. And once again, we do ask anyone who was witness to this incident or has dashcam footage that can assist to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000. And this is concerning. 00:28:31 Speaker 3: There was a break-in at Clemson overnight. 00:28:33 Speaker 12: Between 8.30 last night and 5.30 this morning... a glass door was smashed at a restaurant on AOG Road where a small amount of cash was stolen. The suspects fled the scene and investigations into the break-in are continuing. And we ask anyone who witnessed any suspicious activity in that area to contact Crimestoppers once again on 1800 333 000. And we also just want to do a quick shout-out that Term 4 resumes for lots of students across the state this morning. So we do ask drivers just to take that extra bit of care away this morning with lots of students heading back to school, just to be mindful in those school zones. 00:29:10 Speaker 5: Good reminder. 00:29:10 Speaker 3: Good stuff, Holly. Good on you. Senior Councilman Holly Frisby from SAPOL. 00:29:14 Speaker 6: And as we've discussed, it doesn't matter if there's a pupil free day at the school, the school zone still applies. 00:29:18 Speaker 3: Is that right? I'm glad you're here to decipher that for us because you are the school zone whisperer. That's a polite way of putting it. I drive through those signs and think, I don't know. I'll try my best. Not that that matters under the law, but you know, what else have we got? 00:29:34 Speaker 1: Knock down, build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you. Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast. 00:29:51 Speaker 3: Six to seven. We're going to talk about this latest debacle to come out of the AFL with regard to reports over the weekend that have been firmed up in the media this morning regarding Carlton footballers and drugs. Before we get into that, let's do a couple of texts, see how we stay, because there's some good stuff coming through. In fact, I just want to read out Phil's quickly before you get to some others, because it relates precisely to our discussion about those RSL nameplates being stolen. He says a similar situation occurred back in March when brass plaques were stolen from the cemetery at Corn and Wilmington. He wonders if it's the same nuff-nuffs. Phil says brass is currently $ 10 a kilo. Maybe they should get a job. It'll pay better than stealing plaques from war memorials and you might feel better about yourself in the process too. $ 10 a kilo. 00:30:36 Speaker 5: Probably less effort as well. 00:30:38 Speaker 3: Significantly less effort. It'd be easier to work on a till. 00:30:40 Speaker 5: At Macca's than it would be to get a brass plaque off a memorial. 00:30:43 Speaker 3: It absolutely would. 00:30:44 Speaker 2: Oh, God. 00:30:45 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just nonsensical. 00:30:47 Speaker 6: And I really do think, I agree with, I can't remember who the texter was here. There's no name on it, but scrap metal yards should be held accountable for this stuff. I still cannot believe we don't have a system in place where they just check someone's ID and keep track of. 00:31:01 Speaker 5: Who it is that dropped in what. How hard is that? A physical record. Keep it in a book. Keep it on a database. Microsoft Excel could work it out for you. AI could do it for you. Take someone's ID. Keep track of who it is and what they've dropped off. 00:31:18 Speaker 3: We've got bigger problems in the world if people are accepting plaques with people's deceased grandparents on it that recognise their sacrifice in war. My God, the people. All right, let's talk about something else. 00:31:32 Speaker 6: I did like these texts from Peter and Simon just quickly about the car running out of fuel. 00:31:38 Speaker 4: Yes. 00:31:38 Speaker 6: At the Bathurst, Peter and Simon both made comments to the effect of, I'm glad they weren't flying a plane. 00:31:47 Speaker 3: For that, we are thankful. Plane engineers, they are much more successful by that measure. All right, let's head to Eddie Summerfield of 3AW reporting this morning on... This story that takes some deciphering. We do know that Lockie Cowan and Will Haywood received medical treatment. There was a party at Will Haywood's house. And beyond that, Eddie, the details are a little bit confusing, but there seems to have been a medical presentation and drug use. Good morning to you. 00:32:18 Speaker 28: Yeah, good morning to you. And I think you used the word debacle before, because that's exactly what this is. 00:32:24 Speaker 7: So. 00:32:24 Speaker 28: Lockie Cowan and Will Haywood both partying Saturday night with a group of Carlton players. They ended up back at Will Haywood's house and an ambulance was called for Lockie Cowan. 00:32:38 Speaker 19: He's a 21-year-old. 00:32:39 Speaker 28: And now what teammates have described to few media outlets is he suffered a bit of a seizure. And that was in reaction to reports that he had taken some recreational drugs. We'll come back to the drug use in a second. Will Haywood, now, depending on what you believe here, and there's got to be a few questions over this. So, Lucky Cowan, he's taken to hospital. 00:33:03 Speaker 18: By ambulance following that seizure. 00:33:05 Speaker 28: Will Haywood, a short time later, he was also taken to hospital for what the clubs say was a separate incident after cutting his head during a fall when he was in the shower after dropping his toothbrush. and required as many as six stitches after he hit it, get this, on a soap container while he was picking the toothbrush up. So he took himself in an Uber to the hospital. Bizarre injury, and we believe it, I guess, because that's what we've been told at this stage, but I think there needs to be a few questions over the circumstances. 00:33:39 Speaker 3:

At best, it's unfortunate timing, Eddie, to have a toothbrush-related issue. 00:33:46 Speaker 28: There's reports that both players had been taking illicit drugs on Saturday night, and I stress they are reports at this stage. But this ties in because the Victoria Health Department, only 24, 48 hours earlier, they put a warning out to the broader Victorian community that there is a dodgy batch of. 00:34:08 Speaker 18: They're all dodgy, let's face it. They come from organised crime, but. 00:34:11 Speaker 28: A particularly dodgy batch batch of illicit drugs that are doing the rounds of Melbourne at the moment that are unpredictable and can cause serious harm or death. So very serious matter. Thankfully, both of the players, after presenting to hospital, were left hospital within a couple of hours later. So they're both doing okay. But the club and the AFL at this stage are yet to address if they will investigate any further or if there'll be any penalties involved. for the alleged illicit drug use. 00:34:45 Speaker 5: Should there be penalties in an off-season? 00:34:46 Speaker 6: Obviously, the hospital admission is a different matter and that's concerning enough, but should there be penalties for drug use in an off-season? 00:34:56 Speaker 19: I would think if it is an illegal item that the broader public... They're illegal items and these guys are role models earning a hell of a lot more money than the three of us, that there should be penalties. But the fact of the matter is. 00:35:10 Speaker 28: There isn't because the AFL updated its illicit drug policy earlier this year, which they say is more of an educational model to stop players from taking and educating them on the dangers of taking illicit drugs. So if a player tests positive once, they're subject to a behavioural change program and individualised assessment, which can include healthcare interventions. But if there's a second consecutive test, the player then progresses to an individual management plan overseen. 00:35:41 Speaker 19: By the AFL. 00:35:43 Speaker 28: And we, the public, we, the footy fans, we don't find out if these players have tested positive to illicit drug use. 00:35:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, this is a fascinating story in the first instance for what's happening with regard to the Carlton Football Club, who were a good news story for the back half of that year, this year. Thanks, Eddie, by the way. Eddie Summerfield for 3AW. But also... a test for the AFL's illicit drugs policy. Because a lot of people, to your point, Stacey, go, well, what other industry, what other sporting code has this? But what the AFL has tried to do, I think, is create a scenario where none of this stuff gets made public because they manage it internally. 00:36:20 Speaker 5: Their drugs policy is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. 00:36:23 Speaker 3: Absolutely. And from a PR perspective, they get to say, well, we have the strongest drug policy going around. But what it actually doubles, it's a shield against any of this stuff ever being made public. 00:36:32 Speaker 14: Yeah. 00:36:35 Speaker 3: I think cynically sometimes you wonder if it has been about anyone but the AFL. The problem with it is now we know about this case. Well, it appears we know, and this is some other very creative toothbrush-related explanation for what went on here. And so what does that mean? What does that mean now for a policy that's been built around keeping these things quiet? 00:36:55 Speaker 5: This one's very public. 00:36:55 Speaker 3: This one's very public. 00:36:57 Speaker 14: Yeah. 00:36:57 Speaker 5: Are they going to do anything about it? 00:36:59 Speaker 3: Well, now there has to be questions answered. So, Eddie Somerville for 3OW and a story that will develop further over the course of this day. 00:37:05 Speaker 6: If you do want an entertaining read, read the AFL's drug policy because you will just laugh the entire way through it. 00:37:11 Speaker 5: It's so ridiculous. 00:37:17 Speaker 20: Knock down. 00:37:17 Speaker 2: Build two. 00:37:18 Speaker 1: With Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes. They do it all for you. 00:37:25 Speaker 8: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast. 00:37:32 Speaker 3: Eight after seven. Good morning to you. Joining us for the first time on this Monday, the 12th of October. It's a lot calmer out there than it was yesterday. Remarkable storm activity. Some hail in the southern parts of the city as well. Some power outages will be... almost entirely are resolved as of 10 past seven this morning. So that looks like it's pretty good news on that front. Coming up this hour on the program, we're going to be talking with Bronte Manuel from Toop and Toop. Rex Patrick will join us on his ongoing fight for greater transparency with the state government. Still, I find it extraordinary that this is a fight that's going on over FOIs and so much money's been expended on it. But we'll hear from Rex on the latest after 7.30 on that front. We have a South Australian Bathurst winner, Todd Hazelwood. His mum, Sharon, will join us after 8 o'clock today. Done it twice now, so it's old hat for Sharon. I'm sure it never feels like that as a parent, though. 00:38:22 Speaker 7: No. 00:38:23 Speaker 3: I love chats with high-achieving people's parents. It's always good fun. So that's coming up after 8. And a lot of stories, a lot of confessions of times you've run out of fuel this morning because that's ultimately how the– It's a safe space. 00:38:35 Speaker 5: You can share. 00:38:36 Speaker 3: You can share your story. If professional– Automotive engineers and drivers can get it wrong. So too can you. Bathurst famously, infamously now being one yesterday with the race leader running out of petrol. Team 18 on the last lap. And as our resident rev head Sam Datto told us, the most remarkable thing is they've done this before. They run so close and yet they were so far

ahead. There was no need to cut the margins so fine. But that's precisely what they did. Hence, we've got this discussion this morning about running out of petrol. So if it ever happens to you, Give us a call, 8223 0000, and tell us your story. Now, it's a sitting week both in Canberra and indeed on North Terrace this week, so there's going to be plenty of news about the place. And when our MPs arrive in Canberra, they're going to be greeted by an ad campaign that's being funded by small business, ostensibly with regard to... the changes to your ability to pay your tax on credit card. This was changed when the credit card surcharges changed. The ATO put out a little message saying, oh, by the way, you can't pay on credit card anymore. And a whole bunch of businesses whose business model was built around that flexibility for liquidity concerns and so forth went, well, that, hey, what? 00:39:47 Speaker 7: What? 00:39:48 Speaker 3: And it's given them, I think, a really interesting opportunity to now document the manner in which they feel they have been hard done by by this government. So capital gains tax changes in the event you want to sell your business or part of your business. You've got the– Trust changes. The trust changes to how profits are disseminated in your family. You've got this. You've got payday super. You've got minimum wage increases. So when they get off the plane, these politicians are going to be greeted by an ad campaign in Canberra on the ground with billboards talking about how small business has been smashed. There's a TV component as well. Have a listen. 00:40:22 Speaker 9: Rent is up. Power is up. Insurance, wages, stuff, all up. 00:40:26 Speaker 21: We're working longer hours for less. 00:40:28 Speaker 20: And now Canberra's been hard-served charges. 00:40:31 Speaker 5: But the bank fees didn't go anywhere. 00:40:33 Speaker 9: It's just one more cost we have to wear. 00:40:35 Speaker 13: We can't take another one. 00:40:40 Speaker 3: If you're a small business owner sitting here nodding your head, listen to that, call us right now. We would love to hear from you this morning to talk about the now litany of ways in which your life has been made more difficult. That message is hopefully getting through to Canberra on your behalf, but we'd love to hear you just explain it in a little more detail to those of us that don't work don't own a business and don't deal with this as a daily sort of concern, let us know because it's going to be a big talking point today and over the course of the week. We're going to get a new Christmas tree, Stacey. 00:41:10 Speaker 5: Yes. 00:41:10 Speaker 3: We're getting a new Christmas tree. Not us personally, but the state, the city of Adelaide, brand new Christmas tree. And it looks like it's going to be quite the upgrade on what we've had before at a cost of $ 2. 00:41:21 Speaker 26: 1 million. 00:41:21 Speaker 3: It'll be 25 metres high. 66,500 lights and a big star. I'm not sure if they've

just mocked up a graphic in the Tizer or what it is. You can have a bit of a look at it. It looks like it's going to be quite spectacular. 00:41:38 Speaker 5: It's by the same mob who made the one in Sydney in Martin Place, I think. 00:41:43 Speaker 3: Okay. Our tree needed a zhuzh up. It definitely– it was. 00:41:46 Speaker 6: Looking a bit– I think this is how someone criticised it. It was looking a bit povo. 00:41:51 Speaker 21: Yeah. 00:41:52 Speaker 5: If I can say that. 00:41:53 Speaker 3: It did. 00:41:54 Speaker 5: I don't know why that makes me laugh, but it is a funny word. 00:41:57 Speaker 3: Well, the opposite of povo is spending $ 2. 1 million on your tree, of course, and that has raised some eyebrows. So what we thought we'd do this morning is a bit of an impromptu jury. So yes, new tree, good. Is $ 2. 1 million reasonable? I appreciate you can't go to Kmart and get a tree that can sit outdoors and be used year on year forever. 00:42:19 Speaker 5: I think this is a bit of a stitch-up, to be honest. So many people were calling for a new tree. 00:42:24 Speaker 3: We needed a new tree. 00:42:25 Speaker 6: Council gets a new tree, and now they're criticised for how much said tree costs. 00:42:29 Speaker 3: Well, let's ask people. What do you want? 00:42:32 Speaker 11: 8223 0000. 00:42:32 Speaker 3: We have Lucky Dumpling Market voucher to give away from Nacho Nacho Man, Spice Kitchen 89, Sookie Lala, Gang Gang and Kaya Desserts. Taste the flavours of Asia at Lucky Dumpling Market, Adelaide Springtime Food and Entertainment Hub. It's on at the moment. visitlokidumpling.com. Get calling right now. 8223 0000 Is the tree overdue or overpriced? 8223 0000 Overdue or overpriced? We'll do a little impromptu jury on that this morning. The other news for music lovers As you've been hearing across the morning is that Powderfinger are coming to town. We've got the dates now that's The reunion tour is going to cover, and the good news is Adelaide is included October 15 and 16, Friday and Saturday next year at Ellis Park, which is behind Adelaide High. Now, you've got some intel about why that location. 00:43:32 Speaker 5: Yeah, because we were wondering why. Why aren't they doing the Oval? Why aren't they doing the Drive, some other sort of stadium? 00:43:38 Speaker 6: They're bypassing the stadium and arena tour, and they're bringing their own, in quotes, epic stadium-sized big top. 00:43:47 Speaker 3: Like a circus tent. A big circus tent. 00:43:49 Speaker 2: Wow. 00:43:49 Speaker 5: Stadium-sized one. 00:43:51 Speaker 6: So that's why there's a few gaps in between their touring schedules so they can pack it down and set it up in each city. 00:43:58 Speaker 5: So that's why it's at Ellis Park. They'll have a big circus tent, basically. 00:44:02 Speaker 3: It's a good spot for it then. So West Terrace, for people that are wondering, on that side of the town is where you're going to see Powderfinger, who have come back together. Christmas tree. Let's get this jury assembled, shall we? We've got Lucky Dumpling Market tickets to give away. A voucher, in fact, you can go and spend on the food there, which is what it's all about. Lucky Dumplings are great. Last weekend, a little bit of rain. That means you've got to have two weeks of magnificence for the Lucky Dumpling market from this point on. 8223 0000, the new Christmas tree in Adelaide. So the old one's gone and its place is going to be this magnificent $ 2. 1 million, 66,500 light extravaganza. $ 2. 1 million, though. Is the tree overdue or overpriced? Everyone who calls in and renders a judgment on this is in the running to win the lucky dumpling market ticket. So you can remain anonymous. All you need to do is call in right now, 8223 0000. Let's go to jury number one. Overpriced or overdue, the new Christmas tree? 00:44:58 Speaker 22: Absolutely overpriced. 00:45:00 Speaker 3: Overpriced? 00:45:01 Speaker 2: Well, they should be doing it. 00:45:02 Speaker 20: Yep, waiting till the end of the year when the sales are on and get it for. 00:45:05 Speaker 13: About $ 1. 00:45:06 Speaker 20: 3 million. 00:45:08 Speaker 5: Boxing Day sale. 00:45:09 Speaker 22: I love that. 00:45:09 Speaker 3: Well, isn't the big one now Black Friday? What do they call it? 00:45:12 Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, Black Friday. That's coming up, I think. 00:45:14 Speaker 3: And that's before Christmas, is it? 00:45:15 Speaker 12: Yeah. 00:45:15 Speaker 3: That's the Cyber Monday. 00:45:18 Speaker 5: Oh, God. 00:45:18 Speaker 3: You can buy a digital tree. 00:45:20 Speaker 26: EFS. 00:45:20 Speaker 5: We've missed that one. 00:45:23 Speaker 3: We've missed that one. 00:45:24 Speaker 5: I don't think they sell trees during EFS. 00:45:27 Speaker 3: Jira number two, overpriced or overdue the new Christmas tree? 00:45:31 Speaker 29: Look, I'll preface this. I'm a bit of a Grinch. It's overpriced, but if it means the city lights up for the festive season and gets some people in and makes some people happy, then, hey, what's a couple of million dollars between friends? 00:45:45 Speaker 3: This is it. This is sort of where I sit on this. Everything sounds overpriced these days. So the price tag of everything. You can't buy anything just about on planet Earth at the moment and feel good about what's on the sticker. Christmas tree included. Now, councils will spend lots of your money on all manner of things. Many of those are much worse than the gig giant Christmas tree that allows us to enjoy going into the city and it's beautiful. So, yes, it's a lot of money. But amongst a list of a lot of things that cost a lot of money, I think this is a good use of ratepayers' money. 00:46:19 Speaker 5: Everyone knows a good Christmas tree is a good investment. You use it for years. 00:46:22 Speaker 3: Yes. 00:46:23 Speaker 6: If you pack it down and you set it up right, that tree could last a decade or more. 00:46:28 Speaker 3: Exactly right. And then it's only $ 210, 000 a year. 00:46:31

Speaker 6: I actually support, in this situation, the council spending that money. And I know it's rare for me to support Adelaide City Council spending money. 00:46:39 Speaker 3: A few people in the text line. Wendy says, just overpriced. Thank you, Wendy. Rob says, plenty of trees coming in from the parklands. Surprised we couldn't get a better deal. Thank you, Rob. 00:46:53 Speaker 6: If you put all those thousand trees together, you could get one big, beautiful, real tree. 00:46:59 Speaker 3: You could, yeah. Someone clever could make that work. Chris says $ 2. 1 million. Is that a treehouse or a Christmas tree? It's sort of the price of a decent house. 00:47:09 Speaker 6: James, can they get a store voucher and return it when Christmas is over? 00:47:16 Speaker 5: Keep the tag on the back? 00:47:17 Speaker 3: Just tuck it under a branch? Yeah. Keep them coming in. Ready to your verdict. Overpriced or overdue, the Christmas tree. 8223 0000. We'll get to some more of your thoughts in a moment. 00:47:30 Speaker 26: Knockdown. 00:47:30 Speaker 1: Bill 2. With Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes. They do it all for you. 00:47:38 Speaker 2: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. 00:47:40 Speaker 8: This is 5AA Breakfast. 00:47:44 Speaker 3: 23 after 7. The weather looks good this weekend. Be a good weekend to get to the Lucky Dumpling Market. And if you'd like to get along, we have a voucher for you. Just need to render your verdict with a snap jury on the question of the $ 2. 1 million Christmas tree. Our Christmas decorations in this city have looked daggy for a long time. This is a real glow-up for the tree at $ 2. 1 million. Overpriced or overdue is what we're asking. It's a good sort of debate at the moment. Jury number three, what do you think? 00:48:13 Speaker 9: Hello. 00:48:14 Speaker 3: Hello. 00:48:14 Speaker 16: No, it's overpriced, but If they're going to buy a new one, can I have the old one? 00:48:21 Speaker 3: A few people have wondered that, jury number three. A few people have wondered that. A lot of people, Meredith and Sue, I just want to park, mind the pun, that there's going to be a whole bunch of parking fines in the city to pay for this. So thank you. Jury number four, good morning. 00:48:36 Speaker 17: Good morning. 00:48:36 Speaker 23: Definitely overpriced these trees, and I think the council should set up two funds, a Gringe GoFundMe page and an Elf GoFundMe page. Whichever wins, then the Gringe or the Elf can be on the tree. 00:48:49 Speaker 3: Oh, I see. 00:48:50 Speaker 18: Oh. 00:48:50 Speaker 3: You could get a giant Grinch on there. Or the elf. 00:48:53 Speaker 5: What's with this elf on the shelf thing? 00:48:56 Speaker 26: Oh. 00:48:57 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. 00:48:58 Speaker 3: Anyway, sorry. The elf on a shelf. 00:49:00 Speaker 5: But I digress. 00:49:01 Speaker 3: Oh, the elf. Well, we're back to school, so this elf on a shelf is a very, how would we frame this? Popular in some houses and less popular in the others. Because old Elfie, once you go down that path. 00:49:18 Speaker 5: You're not, you have, yeah. 00:49:19 Speaker 3: You don't. an elf in your house all of a sudden. 00:49:22 Speaker 5: It wasn't a thing. I don't understand it. 00:49:24 Speaker 3: I wonder if people are still doing it. Is the elf still happening in your house? Let us know because it certainly peaked a couple of years ago, I reckon. 00:49:31 Speaker 5: It seems like a lot of work for the elf. 00:49:33 Speaker 3: For the elf, absolutely. Do you remember five good mornings? Morning. 00:49:37 Speaker 27: It's been no help from my place. Way, way too much. I reckon they'd get a much cheaper one on Timu. 00:49:44 Speaker 28: And maybe they could get a refund for the old one. 00:49:48 Speaker 27: They could put it on a flatbed truck and take it to the local scrap metal dealer and get some money for it. 00:49:52 Speaker 3: Well, everyone else is. Thank you, jury number five. Paul has sent. 00:49:57 Speaker 6: Us a photo of a magenta-coloured Christmas tree, a pink tree. 00:50:02 Speaker 5: The Adelaide City Council should buy 1,000 of these. 00:50:05 Speaker 6: They're $ 300 at Bunnings, and they'll still have $ 1. 00:50:07 Speaker 5: 7 million left over. They've got remote-control Christmas lights with Christmas songs. 00:50:14 Speaker 9: Thanks, Paul. 00:50:15 Speaker 5: It's quite a pretty tree. 00:50:17 Speaker 3: It is. It's got a real Dame Edna sort of look to it, and so too with the city, I think, if we had giant pink Christmas trees everywhere. Thank you, Paul. 00:50:24 Speaker 6: Wendy's also offered her services. She said, I'll make it for them, and I'll only charge $ 1 million. 00:50:28 Speaker 16: Wendy. 00:50:29 Speaker 3: Wendy. You're saving the taxpayer money, the ratepayer money. Thank you. One to five. Who gets the Lucky Dumpling Market voucher? 00:50:36 Speaker 6: I can't go past a good sale, so juror number one who recommended buying it on Boxing Day. 00:50:42 Speaker 3: Juror number one, you're off to the Lucky Dumpling Market that's taking place at the moment. Runs through until the 1st of November. Get in. It's going to be delicious. 00:50:52 Speaker 2: Stephen Rock on 5AA Breakfast. 00:50:54 Speaker 3: Good boy! 00:50:54 Speaker 29: Thanks. 00:50:57 Speaker 3: Big sporting weekend in the end. Bathurst we've spoken about, obviously. The basketball, cricket over in South Africa. Lots to discuss with Stephen Rowe. Morning to you, Rowe. 00:51:07 Speaker 13: Yeah, all good, isn't it? 36 is a great win. The cricket looks like it's good heading into day three. Hey, three days to go of the AFL trade period. Will and Stacey, good morning. The five-club megatrade for Zach Butters. While it's landed, Ports Piggy Bank is full of first-round picks. We know they got that pick five compo, 6-10 this year, two futures. But sadly, it's the modern game. I know they've lost their best player. But, you know, they're going to get

Dougie Cochran. Who else they get will be the kicker. And, gee, they're working hard behind the scenes, Port. You'd have to say it's a massive tick at this stage. 00:51:41 Speaker 3: How do you reckon Matty Nix is feeling about this trade period? Yeah, I think Port have– that's a good point. Port have done really well. I think if someone leaves, you hope you get a return like Port are going to get for Zach Butters. So, well, that is a huge win. 00:51:55 Speaker 30: Tick. 00:51:55 Speaker 3: Matthew is going to a do or die year for his coaching career. And all he's done is seen his depth walk out the door, not to be replaced. I reckon if I was him, there'd be more than tense conversations happening on the phone between me and my list manager, but that might be just be me, Rowie. 00:52:12 Speaker 13: Well, a lot of us feel like he might be dead man walking, but, but, but here's the thing. He must have absolute faith in this list along with his list management and his other coaches. So I did this. I just thought I'd do this, um, Will and Stacey I did chat GBT my wife is in this left right and centre I don't even know what it is I still use an encyclopedia or a bloody Wikipedia but I thought I'd just she said Stephen it's just 100% accurate so I thought I'd type in a few keywords and come up with this the Adelaide Crows are taking a quiet draft focused approach during the 2026 trade period prioritising list regeneration ahead of Tasmania's entry whilst holding back salary cap space for future targets. Now, regeneration, Will and Stacey, is that another word for organic growth? I'm just asking for a friend. 00:53:04 Speaker 3: Yes, I think it is. 00:53:05 Speaker 13: Oh, my God. Even chat GBT saying it. We are stuffed. 00:53:12 Speaker 3: We're farmer browned. 00:53:14 Speaker 13: I mean, but that's okay. We've got Harry Cunningham. He turns 33 in December. We've got him as a future off-field player. Coach, by the looks of things, that's okay. We lose Luke Pedler. Maybe Nick Murray stays. We've lost Butts. I reckon every Crow supporter will be hoping, like you, Will, and me, that there's a rabbit in the hat. They're holding something back up their wizard sleeve. There's a surprise gun in the holster. They've got a six-shooter ready to get out, White Earp style, and go bang, bang, bang. But sadly, I think that player's initials are OG. 00:53:50 Speaker 6: I was going to say, you really are a glutton for punishment, holding out a bit of hope here, aren't you? 00:53:55 Speaker 13: Well, somebody, please, please tell me there's more to come in the next three days. 00:54:03 Speaker 3: Or this is it. 00:54:05 Speaker 13: We get Harry Cunningham, who can't get a game for Sydney. I mean, Will, help me. If Chad GBT used the word rejuvenate, what? 00:54:16 Speaker 3: Oh, my God. You get sold on hope as a sports fan every year, don't you? That's the sales pitch is hope. A lot of Crows fans I'm speaking to at the moment are wondering what's the optimistic case for next year if the club doesn't even have it. Yes, the new headquarters. 00:54:33 Speaker 6: New headquarters, Mike. 00:54:34 Speaker 3: Maybe we can all go have a picnic. Good on you, Roy. 00:54:39 Speaker 13: See you, guys. 00:54:40 Speaker 10: Bye. 00:54:43 Speaker 1: Knock down, build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you. 00:54:52 Speaker 8: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast. 00:54:56 Speaker 3: 20 to 8, remarkable situations that we've just seen in 5AA News news poll out last night. We have three political parties all polling in the 20s as of last night. It is going to be a very, convoluted vote if that's the way it holds until federal election night. We'll get a little bit of a sense of what that looks like with the Victorian state election because they're a bit more tightly bunched than we were here in South Australia with, of course, the very popular Malinowskis government making things look a little bit more like they used to. You've got 37.5% of the vote. But if everyone's huddled around the 20s, it's going to be a very, very interesting next few years in Australia. Can't govern in the 20s. Well, someone has to. 00:55:35 Speaker 5: Unless you make a deal. 00:55:36 Speaker 3: Or maybe a few will do it all together. 00:55:38 Speaker 18: Yeah. 00:55:38 Speaker 3: But it'll be an interesting one to watch. 00:55:41 Speaker 9: It will. 00:55:41 Speaker 6: Another interesting one to watch will be a court case that we have been following for some time here in South Australia between Rex Patrick and the state government. It all started with an FOI application that Rex Patrick put in. Rex Patrick will be able to confirm if this is an appropriate summation. He put in an FOI to get a certain document published It was approved. The government appealed that. 00:56:06 Speaker 5: It was denied. Rex Patrick appealed it. It was approved. 00:56:08 Speaker 6: And now it's potentially going all the way to the High Court. Rex Patrick, former South Australian Senator, Freedom of Information warrior. 00:56:16 Speaker 26: Is that kind of the gist? 00:56:19 Speaker 18: Yeah, that's quite right. Good morning to all of your listeners. Yeah, so basically I've been trying to get access to information about that very secretive topic, which is the Murray-Darling Basin. That was essentially the documents that I was seeking access to. And there was some bouncing back as to whether or not I could or couldn't have that document. But earlier this year, the full court of the South Australian Supreme Court basically determined that I was entitled to that document. the government responded by making a special leave application to the High Court. So you can't just, by right, appeal to the High Court. You have to make your case as to why they should hear the appeal. In doing that, they also said to the court that they wanted me to pay their legal costs if the case went ahead. Now,

the court has made a determination. They've said that the case can go ahead. But if it does, quite reasonably, and I think all your listeners will agree it's appropriate, that the deep-pocketed state will have to pay me, an ordinary citizen, they're going to have to pay my legal fees. One of the reasons for that is, firstly, it is unfair to take someone to the High Court when they're just trying to get access to scrutinised governments. but also if the state government weren't to pay my costs, we'd have a really crazy situation where I simply wouldn't turn up and we'd be having laws decided at the highest levels of our legal system without a contradictor presenting the other side of the argument. So the High Court has done absolutely the right thing. The Malinau government should have done this from the start. If they wanted to appeal, they should have simply said, We want to appeal and we will pay Mr. Patrick's cost because that's the reasonable thing to do. That's the fair thing to do. 00:58:24 Speaker 6: So surely now, Rex Patrick, if proceeding to the High Court means that taxpayers have to pay the government's legal costs and your legal costs all over an FOI that you have already been granted access to, surely this is where it ends. 00:58:40 Speaker 5: The state government isn't going to proceed with that. 00:58:43 Speaker 8: Well. 00:58:44 Speaker 18: I think they still will. There's a chance they won't, but they presented the case to the High Court saying this is really, really important. So it would be odd if they did not proceed now. And after all, for them, it's just taxpayers' money. It's taxpayers' money being used to keep information from the taxpayer. So, look, I think it will go ahead. And the reason it will go ahead is because, and this is the thing that the government really worried about, is that this FOI deals with parliamentary briefs, all the briefs that officials take to budget estimates, which contains lots of contemporary and detailed information about how government is working. What the Court of Appeal in South Australia said is that I'm entitled to see that, and every South Australian is entitled to see that. And their big worry is this is not really about the Murray-Darling. This is about general secrecy of government. They just absolutely fear the level of detail that would be available to South Australians about what's happening inside their government. could become disclosed on a regular basis. 00:59:52 Speaker 3: That's an important detail, I think, Rex, that I think we should spend just a moment focusing on. So this was a brief prepared for someone who was going to be under questioning at Budget Estimates. So presumably all this could have come out because it was content for the purpose of answering questions. So it is not as though it is so secret it was some detail that was never designed to see the light of day. It was for the express purpose of having someone, a minister or a head of a department briefed well enough to answer questions that may come their way. That's why I struggle to see the argument about keeping that secret. 01:00:27 Speaker 18: And that's exactly the point. And that was raised in the proceedings and all of the proceedings by saying these documents were written to help people, to help officials and ministers answer questions in a public forum so that they were well informed to be able to perform their statutory duty of answering to the Parliament and ultimately to the people of South Australia. But, you know, that's the really weird thing about this. 01:00:56 Speaker 9: All right. 01:00:57 Speaker 3: Rex, thank you. Well, I think, you know, the High Court's made the right decision with regard to the legal fees because whilst no one's excited about taxpayers putting the bill for more stuff, this is the kind of thing that... is not funded by the state, you end up with a scenario where that avenue to justice or to get things clarified doesn't exist for normal people. Governments can forever escalate it to a court beyond the capacity for people to pay, which is not how we– I don't think anyone would like justice to be done in this country. 01:01:26 Speaker 6: We have a statement from the government on this. The Court of Appeal's decision significantly departed from the previous understanding of of how parliamentary privilege applied to documents prepared for use in parliament. 01:01:41 Speaker 3: Okay, so that's the argument. 01:01:43 Speaker 6: Consideration by the High Court will put beyond doubt how the law operates in this area. 01:01:47 Speaker 5: We welcome the decision. As the matter's before the court, we can't comment further. 01:01:51 Speaker 6: So it sounds like they will proceed with this, which means you, listening right now, the taxpayer, will be paying... whatever the government's legal fees are to attend the High Court and whatever Rex Patrick's legal fees are, all because the government doesn't want you to have access to a document that was prepared by a public servant for you to get access to. 01:02:07 Speaker 5: Make sense of that. 01:02:12 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, let's hope we'll see what the High Court decides and then at least this will be done with. 01:02:22 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:02:22 Speaker 3: I suspect... In the event that they rule in favour of Rex Patrick, he'll get access to these documents and the way in which people are briefed for Senate estimates or estimates here locally will forever change and they'll find another way to keep it quiet. But anyway, it'll be interesting to see how this one does get played out. 01:02:40 Speaker 1: Knockdown Bill 2 with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you. 01:02:49 Speaker 8: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast. 01:02:53 Speaker 3: Eight minutes to A, Bronte Emanuel from Two from Two. But just a moment, we'll talk real estate. But a few texts coming through. 01:02:58 Speaker 6: Quite a few

texts. This one from David. So much for being transparent in office. This clandestine BS has to stop. No wonder people have no trust in politicians anymore. 01:03:08 Speaker 5: I kind of censored that one along the way. 01:03:10 Speaker 3: You tidied that up very nicely. Sorry. David's very passionate about this. 01:03:14 Speaker 6: I thought there might be people on the drive to school. This person says, sounds like an episode of Hollow Men. 01:03:20 Speaker 26: Yep. 01:03:21 Speaker 6: Issue of parliamentary privilege entirely. Sounds like Dennis DiNuto has come out of retirement, says Phil. What has the government tried to hide, says Andrew. Obviously something they don't want the electorate to know. But that's the point. And the point you made, Will, is this brief was done to be released publicly. This information that was in this brief was intended on being released publicly. So if the right questions were asked, this would have been made public. 01:03:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not concealing the known presence of aliens in Australia. This is about the Murray-Darling Basin Plan. 01:03:57 Speaker 6: Yeah, and someone's asking, is this a state labour bungle or a federal labour bungle? 01:04:02 Speaker 5: Sorry for my ignorance on this one. 01:04:03 Speaker 3: No, no, it's entirely... No, it's a good question. 01:04:05 Speaker 6: Because Rex Patrick does put in FOIs at both levels of government, and this particular one is a state government one, so it's the South Australian Taxpayer Fund. 01:04:12 Speaker 5: Paying for the state government's legal costs and Rex Patrick's legal costs. 01:04:15 Speaker 3: There are no stupid questions, folks. 01:04:17 Speaker 17: No. 01:04:17 Speaker 3: Or comments. You can send them through. 024808 1395. We always appreciate you being part of the conversation. 8223 00002 if you'd like to talk about it on the air. Like we're about to do with Bronte Emanuel from Toop and Toop. Morning, Bronte. 01:04:29 Speaker 16: Morning, guys. 01:04:31 Speaker 3: So, we've had the RBA meet. We've had the interest rates go up again. I want to get two things from you, a sense of how the markets reacted in the near term and what your expectations are should we get another one next time the RBA meets. 01:04:48 Speaker 10: Yeah, look, I think there's two things. 01:04:50 Speaker 11: There's obviously market sentiment and then there's the fundamental, you know, hitting the pocket and affecting borrowing, right? Now, the sentiment at the moment, I think the rates are just one thing. When you see in the, you know, in the news that there's, you know, lots of business people leaving Australia, I've just never in my 18 years in real estate ever seen seen so many people talking at a, whether they're business ownership level or in a household, about feeling personally attacked by a government. So I don't even know if rates are just portion of it, but there's just this whole big swirl around what is the plan here? Are we safe? I don't know

if we are, so let's sit on our hands. So sentiment is one key part of it. Fundamentally though, guys, I guess when you look at rates now, people, if you go to the banks, it's 6.5 to 7%, right? 01:05:46 Speaker 10: Somewhere in there. We've still got APRA. 01:05:49 Speaker 11: So that's the Australian Prudential Regulation Authority, which some. 01:05:52 Speaker 10: People may or may not have heard of. 01:05:54 Speaker 11: And their job is to supervise the banks, to supervise superannuation funds. So they actually, when you go to the bank, they don't see whether you can afford your loan at 6.5 or 7%. they add 3% to it, which is the assessment rate, which is set by APRA. So they're assessing people at the moment in the banks at 9.5% to 10%. So if you go to get a loan for a property, they're effectively going, well, if you can afford to pay a 10% interest rate, you can buy this property. 01:06:27 Speaker 10: If you can't, you can't, right? 01:06:29 Speaker 11: So normally what happens is when rates get to a point where they know that they can't exceed the assessment rate on top of the rate, they then drop that assessment rate. So it's currently at 3%. I would have thought, because what's also happening right now is we've got house prices are slightly softening, you know, right across Australia, but rents are also increasing. So less investors doesn't mean cheaper house prices being the only thing. 01:07:00 Speaker 10: It also means higher rents. 01:07:02 Speaker 11: So I personally believe that that assessment rate needs to be adjusted because less I think there's actually now a fundamental on the ground, not just sentiment, matter of can people get a loan to buy the house or not. 01:07:16 Speaker 3: They made changes earlier this year, didn't they, Apra Bronte? Because I know a lot of people that last year, and again, yes, interest rates are a big component of this, but punched into those mortgage calculators or spoke to their bank and said, what's my lending capacity? Or I'll try to get pre-approval for a loan. And their situation hasn't changed, but they've found they get two vastly different numbers this year and last year. um in terms of what they can borrow and this year's is a lot lot smaller. 01:07:42 Speaker 11: Yeah well if it's got a lot lot smaller and it's not just rate dependent i mean there would also be the cost of living so there's the assessment rate and then the banks have also got cost of living. 01:07:51 Speaker 3: What they're guessing about how much it costs to pay your bills and. 01:07:53 Speaker 11: Stuff yeah 100 so people that um live quite scarcely um and budget unfortunately you're skewed by the people that have uber eats seven nights of the week so um So a lot of the time what they believe it costs you to live is actually more than what it actually does cost to live. So there will become a point where those levers get pulled as well, which will have just as much of an effect as a rate cut, to be quite frank. 01:08:20 Speaker 10: That's my opinion. 01:08:21 Speaker 11: Where we sit at the moment, though, I mean, yeah, Adelaide's had two consecutive months of 1% to 1.2% drop. So you've got a million-dollar property, you might have lost $ 10, 000 consecutively each month. Where do I think we're going from here? Well, you know, annually, we're sitting at 5% in the positive. We know that a share market's not won and lost in a day or a month. I would like to think that we'll finish the annual year still. 01:08:49 Speaker 10: In a positive. 01:08:51 Speaker 11: And, you know, if we didn't, that would be the third time in 42 years. You know how I keep saying Adelaide doesn't go backwards, at plateaus? 01:08:58 Speaker 3: Yes. 01:08:58 Speaker 10: There's been plenty of months where we've gone backwards. 01:09:00 Speaker 11: We went backwards in one month in 2021, which was one of our highest recorded growths annualised. So it'll be interesting to see. But I think right now there's just a lot of it's more of a sentiment factor. And I feel like some owners think that it's still 2021 and buyers think it's 2008. So there's just a bit of disparity between the two at the moment. 01:09:22 Speaker 3: Good stuff. Yeah. 01:09:24 Speaker 6: Just something you said earlier piqued my interest, Bronte, about first home buyers and the different groups of people that are unhappy with the government. 01:09:31 Speaker 5: Everyone feels ripped off at the moment. I was thinking about it. 01:09:35 Speaker 6: Mortgage holders, obviously not happy with interest rates going up. First home buyers trying to get into the market, you'd think it would be positive for them. They're not happy because the interest rates are going up and they're borrowing capacities less. 01:09:45 Speaker 5: Renters, they're not happy because. 01:09:47 Speaker 6: Although home values are going down, rents are going up. And then people who have paid off their mortgage are likely to be over 65 and they're not happy right now because of the insurance discount premium changes that the government's made. 01:10:00 Speaker 5: So I don't know who. 01:10:02 Speaker 6: which cohort they're trying to appeal to right now because no one's happy with them. 01:10:07 Speaker 26: No. 01:10:07 Speaker 11: I think also is right now when sentiment's low, people don't want to build houses. And what we need is more houses. In Melbourne, developers are gone. In Brisbane, developers are gone. Queensland, developers, when I say Queensland, Gold Coast, not doubling up. 01:10:21 Speaker 10: There, they're gone. 01:10:23 Speaker 11: Adelaide, we're still developing, but people are becoming a lot more marginal. We've sold some properties, which we're going to have four or five on them. And the developer said, no, I'm just going to sell the house as it is. So what that means is we're kicking the housing shortage down the road. So there is going to be one year, two years, three years, whenever that is, we're going to be in the same predicament

that we've just been in. Because without sentiment, developers don't want to take the risk, even though we always look at them as the bad guy. They're the people we need at the moment. They don't want to take a risk because they feel like they're not getting backed. 01:10:57 Speaker 3: Someone needs to build the houses. Good on you, Bronte. Thank you. Bronte Manuel. from Toop and Toop with our weekly real estate wrap. 01:11:06 Speaker 1: Knockdown Bill 2 with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes. They do it all for you. 01:11:14 Speaker 8: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. 01:11:16 Speaker 2: This is 5AA Breakfast. 01:11:18 Speaker 3: 11 after 8. Todd Hazelwood's mother, Sharon, is going to be joining us this half hour. Looking forward to this. Todd Hazelwood, of course, co-driver. Won Bathurst yesterday in remarkable circumstances with the Lead car teammate ain't running out of petrol on the final lap. Talk about those moments that precede disastrous events. The interview, the journo that asked the question of the pit boss 10 laps earlier, are you comfortable with your fuel situation? Well played. I don't know why they threw that in there. They had a sense of something that was about to happen. At the time, they were very comfortable with how it was all playing out. But how comfortable was Sharon Haselwood? We'll find out very, very shortly. Very much looking forward to talking to her. Lots of text coming through about the housing market, about the sitting week, Rex Patrick's transparency fight, a whole bunch of stuff. We will get to your text. You can keep them coming in on 04808 1395 or alternatively, give us a buzz, 8223 0000. How is the– and I think everyone can have a say in this– the illegal smokes trade going in your neck of the woods? Are you seeing any of them disappear? And when I say disappear, I don't mean in a ball of flame, which is how they often disappear. 01:12:29 Speaker 10: Mm-hmm. 01:12:30 Speaker 3: But do you get the sense we're winning the battle because there's a sort of league table that gets published periodically now that talks about how each state is going. It'll be interesting. You'll get an interesting sense of where South Australia fits on that front. But anecdotally, are you seeing more? It felt like one gift shops popped up every week. Either I'm becoming numb to it or I don't see as many new ones. 01:12:56 Speaker 7: Yeah. 01:12:56 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. 01:12:59 Speaker 6: I'm totally naive in this space. I've never noticed a gift shop, and God, I don't know what's happening. Maybe it's not on my radar, and I ignore them. 01:13:10 Speaker 3: It's the sort of thing, once you start seeing it, that old candy store that's open till late at night. Oh, that's weird. I wonder what the market for candy is at 10 p.m. on a Saturday night. 13 after 8. We'll get into that after 8.30, where South Australia sits in terms of our fight against illegal tobacco. Let's go breaking a note. 01:13:31 Speaker 6: It was, and I can't believe it was this long ago, but nearly three months ago that the state government hit pause on its plans for a new school in Mount Barker, which would mean the acquisition of the Walk the Duck Cafe, an extremely popular cafe in Mount Barker. And during that time, we spoke to the developer of the Aston Hills development as well about the decision to put the school there. And then the state government said, no, we're hitting pause because We're going to look at all other 16 options for where the school could go because we just want to make sure that this is the. 01:14:07 Speaker 5: Best and only option. Well, it's been three months almost. 01:14:12 Speaker 6: So what's happening there? Making some calls on the weekend and getting a little bit more information about it. But I thought we should go to David Keer, who is the owner, operator, chef. He does it all at the Walk the Duck Cafe. Good morning, David. 01:14:25 Speaker 15: Good morning. 01:14:26 Speaker 25: Have you heard? 01:14:27 Speaker 6: Any more about where the school is going to go and whether your business is safe? 01:14:32 Speaker 15: It's been very quiet lately. We did hear from the Premier's office probably around five, six weeks ago saying that things are looking positive for Walk the Duck and we have to trust the process. I think because it's taking so much time, my belief is it's probably a good thing that they might be looking at a different site for the school. 01:14:56 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay. So you've got some positive vibes. 01:15:00 Speaker 15: Yeah, we've been very patient. It is almost three months. On the 15th of this month, it'll be three months in total. So, you know, we're navigating business. We feel quite stagnant. We can't evolve or spend money on the business to grow it. So we're sitting idle at the moment. And then also navigating having bank charges put back on the small businesses. that's keeping us busy at the moment. 01:15:28 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:15:29 Speaker 5: And I guess you're trying to plan for Christmas as well and all of that. 01:15:32 Speaker 15: Absolutely. You just have the foresight to go forward. You get in business to grow it naturally. Like a child, you want to see it crawling, then walking, then running. 01:15:41 Speaker 3: Yeah. The longer it goes, you must get more hopeful though, David, because surely the longer it goes means they're working on an alternate plan. It'd be hard to imagine that this keeps going longer and longer and they go back and say, oh, well, actually the first version was the best version. 01:15:55 Speaker 18: Absolutely. 01:15:56 Speaker 15: When we did meet up, the Premier came and met with us and he spoke well, he listened to us. He's been very diplomatic and wanted to look at all options. So we're just trusting that process. 01:16:10 Speaker 18: All right. 01:16:11 Speaker 6: Well, we'll stay in touch and we'll see if we get an announcement from the government

soon. The opposition has also tried to do some work on this to get some questions answered. Josh Teague is the Deputy Liberal Leader. and has put in an FOI to try and get more information. Good morning to you, Josh Teague. 01:16:27 Speaker 31: Morning, Stacey and Will, and morning, David, and all of your listeners. And first of all, I've just got to say I applaud David's patience and the stoicism he and his family have shown through what's now into its fourth month. And, you know, I'd really like to, you know, hope with him that that means it's heading in the right direction. But we're all left in the dark, Stacey, because... You know, when the Premier, you know, kind of stepped in for his hapless education minister a few days after this disaster was announced back on 20 July, months and months ago, we had this word about a pause. That seems to be some sort of technical term that no one's heard of. And we've been, meanwhile, saying, well, tell us what your 16 sites are. They said they looked at 16, but they've kept that secret. And they've also protested that secrecy because the FOI request was denied. Review was denied. And we've taken that further now, but we're not expecting that'll be adjudicated on until the end of the year. And we're just saying, come on, government, tell us what the sites are. Tell the community who rallied for Walk the Dark and be reasonable. You know, you stuffed it up back on 20 July with your announcement and a pause that just seems to go on endlessly is just not good enough. 01:17:46 Speaker 5: Josh Teague, thanks for your time this morning. 01:17:53 Speaker 3: There we go. Double barrel. 01:17:57 Speaker 6: Hopefully that FOI request isn't headed for the High Court like Rex Patrick's one. 01:18:02 Speaker 3: Surely not. 01:18:03 Speaker 5: A lot of taxpayer dollars going there. 01:18:06 Speaker 6: So obviously what David said about the longer the process takes, the more hopeful they are. 01:18:12 Speaker 5: And my intel is that. 01:18:14 Speaker 6: It was the Lutheran site that is now the one being– explored further i remember that yes originally the the plan was there was a plot of land that was gifted to the lutheran church and that was meant to be used for educational purposes and i don't think that option was explored to the level that the premier wanted it to be explored in the first instance and now they are exploring that option further um but discussions between the church the lutheran church and the government are ongoing with that so i think that is the site that's been Just. 01:18:45 Speaker 3: Looking at the map, that's the most obvious answer. It makes sense. 01:18:48 Speaker 11: Yeah. 01:18:49 Speaker 3: And it looks like the whole thing, the development there was designed around it being a school there. So that makes a lot of sense. Tessa says, if you were a smoker, Stacey, you'd be able to sniff out the dodgy cigarettes. Thank you, Tessa. 01:19:00 Speaker 5: I'd probably take more notice. 01:19:01 Speaker 3: This is concerning and interesting. Jason says, guys, gift shops are going, and the guys are getting a bit smarter now. The barbers, flower shops, and those sorts of businesses are selling them. Some are even in major shopping malls, so it's not as obvious. Thank you, Jason. Anne says, there was a gift shop in Blackwood for a couple of years, but apparently it was raided a few months ago. You'd often see people coming out with brown paper bags filled with their gifts, in inverted commas. 01:19:26 Speaker 5: What a nice way to receive a gift. 01:19:27 Speaker 12: Yeah. 01:19:28 Speaker 5: Wrapped in a brown paper bag. 01:19:30 Speaker 3: Wrapped in the traditional brown paper bag. 19 after 8, we're going to check traffic and we're going to talk petrol, fuel, the absence of it. This isn't a cost of living story. This is about Bathurst and how Todd Hazelwood, our South Australian managed to win co-driver despite trailing on the last lap because team 18 ran out of petrol. Sam Datto's account, if you missed it, is worth going back and listening to on the podcast. We'll be chatting with Todd's mum, Sharon, next about what it was like watching it as a mum. 01:19:58 Speaker 1: Knockdown, build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you. 01:20:07 Speaker 8: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast. 01:20:16 Speaker 17: This is an extraordinary moment for the starry Dick Johnson Racing. Brodie Kostecki and Todd Hazelwood from the clouds. And with the red coat, Bathurst 1000, the great race delivers. 01:20:30 Speaker 3: From the clouds indeed. A remarkable final lap at Bathurst. Saw the race leaders, Team 18. The car ran out of gas. petrol that led, gave Brodie Kostecki and Todd Hazelwood the chocolates. Have a listen. We've been referencing this moment during the race a bit. Very happy with those fuel numbers? Oh, the fuel's not a problem. 01:20:48 Speaker 23: And like I say, we're just looking after the tyre in case we need a safe, in case we get a. 01:20:52 Speaker 3: Safe to go. The fuel is not a problem. 01:20:54 Speaker 5: The fuel is not a problem. 01:20:55 Speaker 3: Race director of Team 18 turned out to be something of a problem because the car conked out on the final lap that meant our man Todd Hazelwood could win his second Bathurst. His mother, Sharon Hazelwood, joins us on 5AA Breakfast. Morning, Sharon. 01:21:07 Speaker 17: Good morning. 01:21:08 Speaker 16: How are we all? 01:21:08 Speaker 3: We're well. What was the sound made in the Hazelwood household when the lead car conked out? 01:21:18 Speaker 24: Honestly, I don't think I'll ever believe that they won that, but they did. And you just couldn't believe it because obviously we had a bit of an issue a few laps earlier with our brake change. And then, yeah, we went back to fifth because we were leading the race most. 01:21:35 Speaker 2: Of the day. 01:21:36 Speaker 24: And yeah, and then, I don't

know, everything just evolved and it was just totally amazing. 01:21:44 Speaker 6: It's one of the biggest races in Australian motorsport. Do you, I don't know, I watch it and all I can think of is, that looks dangerous. 01:21:52 Speaker 5: What are they doing? 01:21:54 Speaker 6: As Todd's mum, how do you, do you watch it through fingers over your eyes or are you kind of cool. 01:22:00 Speaker 3: With it now? 01:22:01 Speaker 24: Well, it's funny because Todd started yesterday and, like, he's so nervous because he thinks, like, oh, my God, I hope he doesn't, you know, stall at the start and then, you know, like, he ruins everyone's day type thing. But you have to watch because then you don't know what happened. 01:22:14 Speaker 27: Yeah. 01:22:16 Speaker 24: But it's the worst thing being a mother watching your son race. 01:22:20 Speaker 15: But anyway. 01:22:21 Speaker 3: So when I'm in the car with my mum, Sharon, if someone breaks about 500 Ks in front of me, she'll go, and will chastise me for tailgating and doing all sorts of things. When you're in the car with Todd, are you coaching him up on his driving? 01:22:39 Speaker 24: No, no. I might, you know, tell him to maybe slow down now and then, but no, no. He's always been a very confident driver. 01:22:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably the problem. 01:22:48 Speaker 24: I've done hot laps with him and it's very scary. 01:22:50 Speaker 3: Oh, you've done the hot lap with him? 01:22:52 Speaker 24: Yeah, oh yeah. And I must admit, I have closed my eyes a few times. 01:22:57 Speaker 5: Well, you probably trust your son more than anyone else to do a hot lap with. 01:23:00 Speaker 3: Fair enough. 01:23:01 Speaker 6: So did you get to talk to him after the race or is he too excited partying? 01:23:07 Speaker 7: Oh, no, no, no. 01:23:08 Speaker 24: It's a Team, like, you know, team, family, events. So, no, like, we were there, like, at the pit when, yeah, you cross the finish line and we all ran to the fence, you know, and hugs and, yeah. No, no, no, it's really good. And then we all went out and had a little bit of a team after event. So, no, it was very good. It's lovely and it's amazing just to, you know, share the happiness, I guess. 01:23:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, what a wonderful moment. How exciting. Hey, on another matter, Sharon, how many snags have you flipped at your local Mitre 10? 01:23:44 Speaker 24: Do you know how many times I got asked that? 01:23:46 Speaker 20: Probably millions, I reckon. 01:23:49 Speaker 9: Millions? 01:23:50 Speaker 3: Someone dobbed you in with a text saying, you've got to ask Sharon about the snags. She's a local legend. Forget Todd. It was funny. 01:23:56 Speaker 16: It was funny. 01:23:57 Speaker 24: I could smell the onions and the sausages cooking somewhere. I thought, oh, my God, I'm not at Mitre 10 today. 01:24:03 Speaker 3: Anyway. 01:24:04 Speaker 9: Yeah. 01:24:05 Speaker 3: Good stuff, Sharon. Good on you. Congratulations to you. It's lovely to chat to

you. Lovely to hear the joy in your voice too, having watched your son win Bathurst. That's terrific. Sharon Hazelwood, our guest. 01:24:16 Speaker 5: All parents of sports people should be cheering in the winning glory. 01:24:20 Speaker 3: I just don't know how they do it. 01:24:22 Speaker 6: Like I said, I watch and I go, oh, no, I don't want to see this. 01:24:25 Speaker 5: Imagine being their mum. 01:24:27 Speaker 3: Well, the element of risk in motorsport is kind of still what it is. More so than, you know, playing cricket or footy or, you know, obviously everything has risk, but motorsport, it's got a long history, you know. Not only is it you're sort of on the edge hoping they do well, but yeah, just remarkable. 01:24:44 Speaker 5: Inherently. Yeah, I wonder if Sharon sits there and thinks, geez, golf would have been nice. 01:24:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, golf. 01:24:50 Speaker 3: Mind you, I like how she did say her concern was he'd stall the car at the start, not sort of, you know, spin out in the hairpin turn or something or other. That was beautiful. 01:25:01 Speaker 5: A great supportive mum. 01:25:03 Speaker 3: I like a few people making the point now that maybe this is a sign of how expensive fuel is in Australia. You've got cars running out of petrol. 01:25:11 Speaker 5: Could only do 50 litres this time, not 52. 01:25:13 Speaker 3: Exactly. Exactly right. Although a lot of V8 fans have pointed out there is a history of cars running out of fuel at Bathurst as well, albeit it doesn't happen regularly, but There's some pretty remarkable stories over the course of history as well. 01:25:29 Speaker 26: 20 to 9. 01:25:45 Speaker 3: Anne sent us a text. I'm not going to read it out, Anne, because we're going to steal it. I think it's a really good... The debate that happened around Anne's table regarding Bathurst is something that we might put to a jury test tomorrow, Anne. You might like to be a part of that. And maybe your whole family was, because you've had this debate already. I'll say no more, but thank you. We love your texts on all manner of issues, because sometimes they do our work for us, and that's even better, like Anne's did. We had a text here that said maybe this was a case of Wolfie time again. Bathurst version of Wolfie time yesterday with the fuel situation. I don't mind that either. We're not quite calling Wolfie time when it comes to the fight over illegal tobacco, but a league table has been published for the second time by the Australian Council on Smoking and Health that attempts to rank the states by how well they're doing combating the scourge of illegal smokes. South Australia, by that measure, is second, but Queensland, according to the language used by ACOSH, well ahead of the field. Laura Hunter is the CEO of the Australian Council on Smoking and Health and joins us now. Laura, good morning. What are the kinds of things you're measuring here? And is it fair to interpret the latter as South Australia is doing pretty

well? 01:27:05 Speaker 30: South Australia is doing pretty well, absolutely. 01:27:06 Speaker 11: Absolutely. 01:27:07 Speaker 18: What the ladder assesses is. 01:27:08 Speaker 30: The strength of all jurisdictions in terms of their laws, their licensing, their supply chain controls, if their penalties are tough enough to sting, closure powers, enforcement capacity. And yet South Australia is doing incredibly well. It comes in at a strong second. But the rest of the field below South Australia is kind of closing the gap. And I have to say that the last time we published, since the last time we published this ladder, reform momentum in South Australia has slowed. We do need to see some more things in South Australia. We need to keep evolving to stay ahead. And one of those things is we need closure orders to be longer than the 28 days that they have. And Queensland, Western Australia, New South Wales, they all have 90-day closure orders. So we're calling on the South Australian government to prioritise that. 01:27:56 Speaker 5: And so what is that? 01:27:57 Speaker 6: Is that when one of these gift shops is uncovered and found to be selling illegal tobacco, they're ordered to close down? 01:28:04 Speaker 3: Is that right? 01:28:05 Speaker 5: And in South Australia, that's 28 days? 01:28:08 Speaker 3: Exactly. 01:28:08 Speaker 30: So if you can extend the closure orders from 28 days to 90 days, illegal operators don't simply wait out a short shutdown and reopen time. 01:28:16 Speaker 24: So it's really important. 01:28:18 Speaker 30: And I suppose when you look at benchmarks and what we want to see happening in this country and in South Australia, we look to Queensland and they're really showing us what's possible. So Queensland also has those closure powers. They have serious penalties and they have more than 200 enforcement staff. But What's unique about Queensland at the moment is how they're using them. They're using them incredibly strategically. So what they do is go out into one area and they shut down 100% of the illegal operators in one hit rather than playing whack-a-mole with one. 01:28:50 Speaker 28: Shop at a time. 01:28:51 Speaker 30: So for example, in Western Australia, there is one particular area that has about 16 stores operating on the high street in Fremantle. And, you know, enforcement blitzes by the West Australian government might shut down three of those, but the others just do a rip-roaring trade. So when enforcement blitzes happen in Queensland and these doors are shut down, we're seeing two big things. Smokers are turning away from cheap products. and legal sales are returning and calls to the quit line in those areas are doubling off. 01:29:22 Speaker 28: The back of those blitzes. 01:29:23 Speaker 30: And that's what we need to see happening across the country. 01:29:26 Speaker 3: So this goes to the heart of the question over all this beyond enforcement and the way these sorts of trades fund illegal entities and organised crime. Can you put the toothpaste back in the tube? And it sounds like, Laura, you're of the view that we can revert. Or can we go all the way back to where we were 10 years ago? Or can we just get a bit better than where we are right now? 01:29:46 Speaker 30: Oh, I think we absolutely can. But I'm a bit more ambitious, guys. As the Australian Council on Smoking and Health, I want to see more people calling the quit line off the back of enforcement blitzes. We are now at the lowest smoking rates that we've ever seen in this country, at 5.6% of the population smoking. And we need to do our very best to get as many people calling the quit line, getting access to free... quitting therapies like those patches, lozenges, gums in Queensland, if you call the Quitline, you get free nicotine replacement therapy delivered to your door. And that also needs to be something that every other state and territory is doing. And we are also pushing for the federal government to fund that and resource that because tobacco is still killing 66 Australians every day, whether it's legal or not. And we need to tackle this issue head on. 01:30:34 Speaker 5: So does South Australia have something like that? If you call the Quitline, do we offer. 01:30:37 Speaker 30: Free No, South Australia is part of a trial at the moment that's happening. I think some jurisdictions want more research as to kind of the cost benefit to it. I'm saying that it would absolutely support people who are suffering with an addiction to quit. So it's great to see South Australia as part of the trial and involved in that, but I'm hoping we're going to see, you know, the federal government putting their hand in their pocket and supporting that as a national approach as well. 01:31:06 Speaker 14: Mm-hmm. 01:31:07 Speaker 3: Laura, thank you. Laura Hunter from the Australian Council on Smoking and Health regarding the fight we have against illegal tobacco. 01:31:14 Speaker 21: It's really interesting that that data point in Queensland where a suburb is raided and all of the gift shops are closed down calls to quit line in Greece. 01:31:25 Speaker 3: Well, because your access is suddenly so much more expensive. 01:31:27 Speaker 18: Yeah. 01:31:28 Speaker 3: You probably financially are forced into a decision to try and quit, which is the whole point of exorbitantly high cigarettes in the first place. But I mean, it's It's not new. It goes back to things like the Laffer curve. Economic theory is pretty well established on things like paying income tax that people make decisions on the basis of how much they are being asked to pay, the likelihood that they are going to be checked out, audited, and what the penalties are. And people make decisions. And the more you raise one of those things and not the others, the chance of getting found out or the penalty of doing the wrong thing, people stop doing the right thing. And the problem around this country is we just kept raising the rate every year,

every year, every year. But the enforcement of it wasn't increased at the same time. And so there was no mechanism by which you would capture all the extra people who suddenly looked at those three variables and went, well, I'm not going to be caught. And the penalty is not that high anyway. And now the incentive, the price is so much. This is obvious stuff. 01:32:28 Speaker 20: Yes. 01:32:28 Speaker 3: The one thing I'm interested about, and Laura probably, it's not her purview to answer. Does this not again feel like, unless there's something happening behind the scenes that I'm not aware of, a case of a federal government issue being shifted onto the states? So it was a federal tax stream. 01:32:46 Speaker 9: Yep. 01:32:47 Speaker 3: They stuffed it up. 01:32:48 Speaker 26: Yep. 01:32:49 Speaker 3: And now the state's having to invest more in policing it. 01:32:52 Speaker 5: Enforcement and policing. 01:32:53 Speaker 3: Enforcing it. It sort of feels a bit like aged care, doesn't it? 01:32:56 Speaker 5: And as well, if you're talking about the importation, that is a federal issue. 01:33:00 Speaker 3: That's a federal issue as well. 01:33:02 Speaker 5: I'm interested in these texts. 01:33:04 Speaker 6: As well because while South Australia is doing well on that tobacco lead table, it might not be how. 01:33:11 Speaker 5: It's playing out on the streets because Angelo says, good morning, guys. 01:33:14 Speaker 6: I know people who have those cigarettes delivered to their homes and not one minute after that we got a message with no one's name on it. I just ordered my carton of smokes online from Sydney. Express post should be here tomorrow. Greedy government forced me to this. 01:33:30 Speaker 3: That's, I mean, presumably that's not via Amazon, right? 01:33:33 Speaker 5: No, you'd think not. 01:33:35 Speaker 3: That's amazing. So you don't. 01:33:37 Speaker 6: Need a- We're not encouraging that, by the way. 01:33:39 Speaker 3: No, no. But if we're getting multiple unsolicited texts to that effect, then what if others might have a view on that, 8223 0000, or you can text us and remain totally anonymous. The organizational level is such that you don't need shop fronts. You don't rely on people to walk in anymore. That's concerning. 01:33:54 Speaker 5: Kids can buy vapes on Snapchat. 01:33:56 Speaker 3: Can you? 01:33:56 Speaker 10: Yeah. 01:33:58 Speaker 3: Colin Shearing is the CEO of the SA Independent Retailers. He's just called in. Colin, you've been listening in. What do you think? 01:34:05 Speaker 31: Yeah, good morning, Will and Stacey. 01:34:06 Speaker 19: Look, the laws that are in Queensland, we'd love to see them actually come into South Australia because they are working in Queensland. 01:34:13 Speaker 29: That's our view. Okay. 01:34:16 Speaker 18: Okay. 01:34:16 Speaker 3: Thank you, Colin. So 200 staff working on this full time. 01:34:21 Speaker 6: It sounds like a good tactical response as well. Go suburb by suburb, knock out every

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governments have. Now they've got a perfect vehicle to do that. If you allow illicit tobacco to flourish, as we've seen, sales in legitimate shops have dropped, shops have closed. Once the legitimate shops are gone, they can use the law to shut down the illicit tobacco and then wipe out tobacco right across the country. 01:37:13 Speaker 3: Because you think there'll be no formalised opposition. 01:37:17 Speaker 28: Exactly. 01:37:17 Speaker 24: Yeah, okay. 01:37:18 Speaker 3: But what's next? 01:37:19 Speaker 16: What's next? 01:37:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's a long way of getting there. I'm surprised. In the UK and New Zealand, they have that process where smoke sales are grandfathered, so people born after a certain year can't buy them, which to me seems the most elegant solution. Why are we not doing that? Because people that do– and look, we all know smokers are net contributors to the health system now based on how much tax they pay. They're not costing anyone anything. In fact, they're probably propping up a few beds. 01:37:47 Speaker 6: Yeah. 01:37:50 Speaker 3: The people that would like to do it and continue to have done it their whole lives can continue to do so. And others that have never been exposed to it would be stopped. That would seem to be the most elegant solution, I would think. 01:37:58 Speaker 5: It makes sense to me. 01:38:00 Speaker 3: Better than whatever the hell we're doing right now. Now, we've got some tickets to give away to Country Royalty, which is a Mario Marolo production promotion. He's promoting, should I say. You can call in now if you want to head along on 8223 0055. So this is great. This is going to be a lot of music you know and love. Hank Williams, Patsy Cline. Johnny Cash, I think Johnny Cash is one of my favourite voices, any male voices in history, and more. All the music in one spot, January 16 at Her Majesty's. Theatre. Great venue. Country Royalty is the name of the show. 8223 0055. That sounds great. Sounds like a lot of fun. 01:38:38 Speaker 5: Get in now. Look at the phone lines light up. Everyone wants these tickets. 01:38:40 Speaker 3: That's right. Get calling right now and it could well be you. Let's have a look at the fuel situation. Fuel's come up inadvertently in conversations this morning around obviously the baddest result. plane engineers, cost of living, all manner of things. 01:38:55 Speaker 6: So if you were working on the pit team in Bathurst, here's what you can pay for your fuel. 01:38:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, for the two litres you needed to win Bathurst. Well, one litre at the Yugo Port Road, West Highmarsh, $ 2. 28. 8 is the best price you're going to find it at. RAA, better to be a member with RAA Road Service. The Yugo South Road, St Mary's, $ 2. 29. 2. And the cheapest diesel is the United Henley Beach Road, Henley Beach, at $ 2. 78. 5. That's all from us. Make sure you fill up. Don't add to your stories about not having petrol today. And we'll catch you tomorrow morning from Sydney. 01:39:33 Speaker 13: I was trying to find my. 01:39:37 Speaker 3: Way along But all I heard was a drone Bouncing off a satellite To 01:39:44 Speaker 9: The world's quickest ever Bathurst 1000.