النص الكامل لحلقة Founders, Firestarters, and First Principles: A Month of First Builders

want to push. 00:01:56.879 --> 00:02:01.280 Like, was it really the cookie that was important, or was it that there was a dessert available? 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:15.199 And using that analogy, like I kind of have to think about that a few times because as an IC, you get to own all of it, and you have to lose that control a little bit as you kind of manage folks and and help grow your team because they need to learn the same things of how to how to bake. 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:19.039 But you don't want to take away the joy of baking because you're just in it with them all the time. 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:22.800 What you want to do is create your value from building something valuable, a valuable company. 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:26.639 And so then, okay, what's the purpose of creating really thoughtful content? 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:39.360 It's for like a hundred people in the world, like in the world, the right hundred first people to like kind of really be able to download the best version of your thinking, and then what that does for your relationship or your ability to collaborate with those people. 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:42.319 Maybe they join you, maybe they fund you, whatever. 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:43.759 That's what the writing is for. 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:55.199 It's for your own discovery process and learning and straightening out your own thinking, and it's for relationship building with like specific people where you meet them at something and you start talking about a thing, and you're like, I wrote a thing about that. 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:56.400 I would love to hear what you think. 00:02:56.479 --> 00:02:59.120 Like, here's my thing, and then you, you know, that that helps. 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:03.680 Is there anything patients can do to advocate for better interoperability? 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:14.960 Just because, you know, I'm listening to this, and I'm sure there are other people listening to this saying, like, my gosh, you know, it's overwhelming to think about the number of doctors I've seen and how they all have different pieces of information about me, and I can't find them in one place. 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:16.479 Is there anything we can do? 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:28.639 So, first off, um, you know, you certainly can go to our website and and look at our information blocking page and ensure uh I think we still have um a um petition that you can sign. 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:32.000 So people can and should go to our website for that purpose. 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:42.800 Second, I think whenever you're talking to your providers, right, you should and and frankly, even you know, anybody in the ecosystem, um, hey, do you have access to my medical records? 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:43.759 If not, why not? 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:58.479 I actually have joked before that um it's kind of only a half joke, part of the reason that I wanted to join Particle is I just thought it was so annoying that I would go to you know the doctor and I'd have to sit there and fill out a form every single time. 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:01.199 I'd be like, I've already seen this doctor 12 times before. 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:03.280 Yes, yes, and like why are we doing that? 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:03.520 Right? 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:04.560 Like, why are we doing that? 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:11.919 So whenever you're doing that, uh again, don't don't bother, you know, um uh receptionists and it's probably not their fault, right? 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:17.279 But um, but when you talk to the doctor, right, finally, it's uh, hey, you know, do you know that there's a different way you can do this? 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:22.720 A lot of money has been locked up in these late stage successful companies who have been waiting for the right moment to IPO. 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:28.079 From startup founder to acquired by Chime to seven years at Chime and now the IPO. 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:29.920 I worked my ass off. 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:35.360 That's just kind of my personality and childhood trauma, but like works well in the tech industry. 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:40.000 The pinch acquisition, it happened really quickly, really, really, really, really, really quickly. 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:44.720 We worked really closely with Satya, who was the partner at homebrew that led our pre-seed round. 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:54.160 And he was like, you need to go back to the drawing board, and maybe it's not even fintech, but you need to kind of start again from the from scratch, come up with a problem and build a solution to it. 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:55.839 This is not working, you need to bail on it. 00:04:56.000 --> 00:05:01.360 I had met Ryan King some years ago at a homebrew portfolio founder dinner when we were just getting started. 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:07.519 And I actually wanted to join Ryan and Chime at that time because I thought Ryan was like really sp, I still do. 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:10.079 Like Ryan is just like an outstanding person. 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:12.240 And I was like, this guy is something else. 00:05:12.319 --> 00:05:13.920 Like, I want to go work for this guy. 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:18.879 Um, and so yeah, I I wanted to join Chime at the very beginning of our pinch journey. 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:20.720 But my co-founder, Michael Ducker, right? 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:24.240 This was his first company, and he was like, no, I want to go do like the, I want to do the startup thing. 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:29.199 And so then, yeah, when it like wasn't working, we came back with our tail between our legs to join Chime. 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:34.639 We wanted equity for our investors and we wanted it to technically count as an acquisition, right? 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:36.240 We wanted to be able to say we were acquired by time. 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:43.600 Yeah, I was employee like 75, and Chime has had, I don't know, I don't know, it's like 1200 employees or something like that. 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:46.000 Um, and so yeah, it's like it's fun, it's exciting. 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:47.279 I don't know, I just really love my job. 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:56.399 From Maya's lessons on resilience to Nathan's frameworks for idea exploration, to Jason's fight for healthcare data access, and Rahini's wisdom on cross-functional leadership. 00:05:56.560 --> 00:05:58.480 This first month has been packed with takeaways. 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:03.600 If something you heard today resonated, send this episode to a founder or early operator you admire. 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:06.160 And be sure to go back and listen to the full conversations. 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:08.480 We promise they're definitely worth a deep dive. 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:13.600 And you can find all episodes on Apple, Spotify, and YouTube, really anywhere you get your podcasts. 00:06:13.759 --> 00:06:19.199 And for more insights from our guests and community, head to our website at www.thecouncil.co. 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:22.639 Stay close to the first builders community by subscribing to our newsletter. 00:06:22.720 --> 00:06:28.160 It's where we share early drops, deep dives from our guests, and what we're seeing in the next wave accompany builders. 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:30.800 You'll find all the ways of follow and connect in the show notes. 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:32.319 Thanks for being a part of this journey. 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:34.399 We'll be back next week with a brand new episode. 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:36.720 Until then, have a safe and great July 4th. 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:38.079 See ya everyone.