النص الكامل لحلقة Serial Killer Syndicate EXPOSED: They're Still Operating Today! - Fight Back Ep. 218

their method is the John wayn 68 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:48.439 Gacy because we're going to. 69 00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:51.439 Vary after this, and to me, it's like I saw 70 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:54.719 a detective in the nineteen seventy three Dan Coral case 71 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:58.639 who had basically there was a tip given from so 72 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:02.319 in Houston. You had him instigators who were on the 73 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:04.840 case for being Coral, and essentially they were they were 74 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:08.520 tipped off by this individual who basically went to the 75 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:12.360 authorities who had been procured by John David Norman and 76 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:16.279 sent through the Odyssey Foundation to actually go Yeah, they 77 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:17.240 had terminology. 78 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:21.040 Let's explain this Odyssey Foundation, because he had these massive 79 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:22.959 founded by the way, this guy had been in jail 80 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:25.199 multiple times for serious crimes. He was always let out 81 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:29.160 right away and he had this crazy organization range There's 82 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:31.720 no Wikipedia for it, by the way, despite it being 83 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:34.240 so big where they had these kids like staying at 84 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:36.879 dorms like twelve. He had younger kids too, he's involved with. 85 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:39.160 But these dorms had like young teens and he was 86 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:41.680 literally selling them out. They had a person, they were 87 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:43.959 highly organized. Give a little description of it. It's just 88 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:48.480 it's crazy how ly big across every state. He advertised 89 00:04:48.519 --> 00:04:51.959 it in magazines including like Advocate magazine, like they're really 90 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:52.800 selling kids on there. 91 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:56.480 Oh. Absolutely. Hermes was another publication that, by the way, 92 00:04:56.519 --> 00:05:01.160 Hermes itself was a pedophile publication that basically had a 93 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:04.600 subscription model that they were promoting in the publication itself 94 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:08.639 along with distributing child pornography. And the problem with Hermes 95 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:12.639 is that they were being financed this publication itself by 96 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:16.800 someone by the name of Francis Sheldon. Francis Sheldon was 97 00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:21.480 basically this old money multi millionaire in Michigan that honestly, 98 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:25.399 if you and this is something that really understanding the 99 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:28.639 scope of this criminal enterprise is astounding. 100 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:30.759 Massive, right, I say up to one hundred thousand clients, 101 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:34.240 and they say high level government employees. That's why the 102 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:36.920 police district station destroyed the records. The State Department then 103 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:39.680 picked them up what do they do destroy them? The 104 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:41.759 Chicago Tribute managed to get the records. What do they 105 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:43.800 do destroy them? It was a jew of the State 106 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:44.839 Department named. 107 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:48.319 Name Matthew Nimitts, I believe was the name of the individual. 108 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:51.120 And it's fascinating in its own right because obviously, if 109 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:54.920 you're considering like the Ripper Crew, right, which is essentially 110 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:59.759 this network of psychopathic, satanic serial killers who were in 111 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:03.959 ritual killing right where they were, they were actually like 112 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:07.279 apparently they were carving out like. 113 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:11.759 This. It's just it's yeah, it's actually exactly tied to 114 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:14.560 this case, which when you get the gazes, got the connection. 115 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:16.360 But there was these four zero killers, like you said again, 116 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:19.560 team of four. You know that that we're doing these 117 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:22.920 rich murders, likely making snuff films. John Wayne Gacy said 118 00:06:22.920 --> 00:06:25.800 he was making stuff films for this Norman guy, right, 119 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:27.759 you know, so the records it's not like this is 120 00:06:27.839 --> 00:06:31.120 random stuff. Everything points again. I think most people are 121 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:33.399 buying them for sex, have vast majority of clients for 122 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:35.720 buying these boys for sex. But it went to a 123 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:38.120 level where it could go darker and you could buy 124 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:41.240 them to kill. And this goes you had mafia connections 125 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:44.720 government connections. It's almost like you see the intersection between 126 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:48.079 the mafia. He worked in Chicago heavily mob run, Houston 127 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:51.199 mob run. We'll even tie this into the Jack Ruby 128 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:52.759 at the end. I think we want to don't get 129 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:54.680 too far off at the moment, but just seeing how 130 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:58.720 like he ran this giant operation through the audit was 131 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:01.120 it the Delta then audit see, and even when he 132 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:02.720 was in prison, it kept running. He would get out 133 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:06.040 of prison right away. It's just the guy his right 134 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:09.040 hand man, was it, Phil pastil. 135 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:11.279 Paski was basically his right hand man that he

actually 136 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:15.399 had met in prison. And it's interesting because basically you 137 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:21.199 have these these child murders effectively being conducted between the 138 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:25.120 seventies and eighties, this time period where it's very overrepresented 139 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:27.199 in my opinion, in terms of the two phenomena of 140 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:28.040 still patterns. 141 00:07:28.079 --> 00:07:30.360 Yeah, the serial colors came out of nowhere, raged up 142 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:33.560 and faded out to school shooting. So it seems this 143 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:35.720 is speculation. I think we kind of both came to speculation. 144 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:39.480 It was like government programs running these operations and serial killers, 145 00:07:39.600 --> 00:07:41.319 and there wasn't just for they're using for money and 146 00:07:41.319 --> 00:07:42.800 stuff too, But it seemed to be. 147 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:46.079 You know, it's it's definitely a layer to enterprise. The 148 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:49.959 scope of it in itself. They don't leave any opportunity 149 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:53.560 sort of off off the table, like they're always going 150 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:54.519 to over exploit. 151 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:57.120 So it's like there's obviatized there's money, but it's like 152 00:07:57.399 --> 00:08:00.360 there's a clear police connection and just like the team 153 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:02.560 files we see today, so it is related how they 154 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:05.079 come in and wipe out these files. Like I can't 155 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:06.959 believe I haven't heard about this case. More like it 156 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:08.759 should have been such a big case, like you just 157 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:10.879 literally just sent me as Wikipedia and went down this 158 00:08:10.959 --> 00:08:14.319 rabbit hole. All these connections. We both kind of saw it. 159 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:16.279 Looked at this the same guy without talking until later 160 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:19.800 seeing as this overhead leader of this massive you know, 161 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:23.920 mostly sex but murder, and he literally had kill across 162 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:26.959 multiple fire files. We don't know who because they destroyed 163 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:27.800 him exactly. 164 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:31.399 And keeping in mind that we know for a fact 165 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:34.759 Dean Coral that many of his victims at least eleven 166 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:35.440 eleven of. 167 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:38.080 His victims, yeah, well was it they're found somewhere right. 168 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:41.159 Well, they were effectively utilized in snuff films all throughout 169 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:45.039 the domestic us and California being one specific location where 170 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:48.600 you actually did have one specific individual, a victim of 171 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:52.960 Dean Corals, who unfortunately was discovered to have been murdered 172 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:55.639 in a snuff film in Los Angeles at some sort 173 00:08:55.639 --> 00:08:59.200 of a satanic, occult, ritualistic party that they acquired their 174 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:03.879 children for. And so knowing that Dean Coral was essentially 175 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:09.799 not only was he providing children for potential snuff murder 176 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:14.159 films and child pornography as well, but he himself was 177 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:17.759 basically this is so fascinating in terms of just Dean Coral, right, 178 00:09:17.759 --> 00:09:23.879 and understanding that you basically have this this systematically entrenched 179 00:09:23.919 --> 00:09:28.799 snuff film like enterprise, right, and this this effectively is 180 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:31.720 is directly in line with the exact same playbook of 181 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:34.320 the Netrol affair, and even Epstein honestly. 182 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:37.720 Yeah, covered which it's identical. You know, it's too much 183 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:39.639 to connect there. I've done work on it. We're thinking 184 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:41.720 about doing this same trip, but we decided it's too 185 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:43.879 dark to cover that too, because it is connected. It's 186 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:46.480 just people that don't know it's this massive. In Belgium 187 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:49.240 with the government, thirty people were murdered, three investigators and 188 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:52.360 witnesses were murdered. There was these kids being tortured and killed. 189 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:53.960 Basically it seemed to go to the highest level of 190 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:57.159 government covered up by the police, police involvement exactly what 191 00:09:57.159 --> 00:09:58.000 we're talking about. 192 00:09:57.840 --> 00:10:02.080 Now, and just like what we're about to kind of 193 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:05.960 unpack with in terms of John Wayne Gacy potentially being 194 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:12.080 involved obviously and also considering yeah, right, right, exactly, but 195 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:16.080 but knowing that Dean Coral was so heavily involved and 196 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:19.480 clearly he was known to have been producing child pornography, 197 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:21.799 one of the largest producers of child pornography in the 198 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:24.919 domestic us at the time, and so was an individual 199 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:28.320 by the name of Guy Strait who also was connected 200 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:31.799 to a child brothel in Miami. And so yeah, and 201 00:10:32.360 --> 00:10:34.440 if you look up this individual by the name of 202 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:38.000 Guy Straight, he's a prolific pedophile, he's a homosexual, and 203 00:10:38.039 --> 00:10:42.360 he basically

was exposed to have been one of the leading, 204 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:46.519 most high profile producers of child pornography in the domestic 205 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:49.840 us as well, and he was directly tied into basically 206 00:10:49.960 --> 00:10:53.039 ordering children from the Odyssey Foundation in John David Norman 207 00:10:53.440 --> 00:10:54.200 And there's. 208 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:55.559 Loss of evidence and I don't know if it's the 209 00:10:55.600 --> 00:10:57.600 same guarda, but someone they busted a raid of the 210 00:10:57.759 --> 00:11:01.799 same amount of child born eleven Carol's victims were in 211 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:04.440 this porn, so they can't say they weren't connected. It 212 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:06.759 was obviously this big network and then police it's like, oh, 213 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:08.960 we don't want to trouble the family by reopening his case. 214 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:09.679 We already have it. 215 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:13.120 Closed, right, Yeah, And when when you look at basically 216 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:16.039 the Odyssey Foundation for everyone just to know, it's it's 217 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:20.440 basically the geographical branding of the time for this network 218 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:24.519 because they were in essentially they're in Dallas right in 219 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:27.960 the early this is late sixties, early seventies. That operating 220 00:11:27.960 --> 00:11:30.879 in the eighties, I think, yeah, and well, really you 221 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:34.120 have the Dean Coral episode happened in that major case 222 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:35.360 in seventy three. 223 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:39.200 They changes the name, that's what he has. These names. 224 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:42.960 So Phil Paski fled to Illinois. Home with Illinois, I believe, 225 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:45.840 is where he fled to, and he started living with 226 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:48.200 He took on and assumed a different name. He had 227 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:49.080 over twenty aliens. 228 00:11:49.159 --> 00:11:50.919 All these guys, a lot of these guys would change 229 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:53.320 their names and didn't he go He went to Chicago 230 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:55.399 to work with John Waying. 231 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:59.720 Yes, and he even stayed with another individual who was 232 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:02.919 actually a client of Odyssey and had ordered children through 233 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:06.600 John David Norman. He when he fled the charges and 234 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:10.639 everything that had basically gone down, and I mean he 235 00:12:10.679 --> 00:12:14.320 wasn't effectively charged with much in terms of the connections. 236 00:12:14.360 --> 00:12:17.720 And these guys are convicted murder by the way I 237 00:12:17.720 --> 00:12:19.600 think he did like one year, and I think he's 238 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:22.639 definitely a serial killer. They connected

even his Wikipedia conect 239 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:24.919 him to like seven murders, including people that were going 240 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:28.159 to testify against Norman who had their throats slit and 241 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:30.799 rich Alsia. So this guy was almost certainly a serial 242 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:33.000 killer as well, and he straight has a murder. 243 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:37.159 Conviction, absolutely, and also considering the notion that he had 244 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:41.240 potential mob connections and ties to the Chicago Mob and 245 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:43.559 also the Dallas Mob, because I think there was an 246 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:48.159 intersection there. Geographically speaking, they were one syndicate. They were operating, 247 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:50.519 you know, in this kind of way where they're just 248 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:52.840 geographical reference points that you can. 249 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:56.960 Were very itali in and Jewish mafia worked very tightly together, 250 00:12:57.360 --> 00:12:59.799 which would the jew that destroyed the records. You know, 251 00:12:59.840 --> 00:13:02.480 they are very intersected, and it's like there's obviously Italian 252 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:04.799 involvement too, I'm not just Jewish mafia. And it was 253 00:13:04.840 --> 00:13:05.679 clearly both. 254 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:08.759 Involved with this and knowing that on the Pink Index 255 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:12.440 cards that were actually discovered after the FBI was so 256 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:15.000 there was a tip given to the FBI. They even 257 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:17.559 went so far as too there was an investigation opened 258 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:21.120 up and they were attempting to they were attempting to 259 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:25.080 investigate what who exactly in the State department were high 260 00:13:25.120 --> 00:13:27.919 profile clients on the Pink Index cards that were found 261 00:13:27.919 --> 00:13:29.960 in the raid of the property of John David Norman. 262 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:32.080 Had the police investigator straight up said that there is 263 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:35.120 high level people in the files the state departments, so 264 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.120 let me grab those destroyed. Yes, And it's insane, right, 265 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:41.440 and knowing this is all Wikipedia people by this isn't 266 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:44.360 even like this is all mainstream accepted stuff that we're saying. 267 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:44.879 It really is. 268 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:46.840 That's all I think speculations that we said that, hey, 269 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:48.919 this might be a government agency, you know, that's all 270 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:50.159 the thing we speculated so far. 271 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:54.279 And they very much liked to kind of dismiss the 272 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:59.039 credibility attached to the concept of the direct attachment and 273 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:02.519 connection to Dean Coral and John Wayne Gacy specifically because 274 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:06.519 I think that offers the most credible window into how 275 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:09.840 this network actually did overlap and effectively function. And I think, 276 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:12.960 look at what now the concept of a serial killer 277 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:16.600 in general is something worth questioning, knowing when the phenomena 278 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:22.360 essentially you know, surface sixties very much so, and and 279 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:25.600 it also disappeared sort of in a way around the 280 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:29.120 same time that mass shooters would then effectively become, you know, 281 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:32.320 a phenomena, especially in the domestic US. Now I've read 282 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:38.159 so much credible, you know, evidentiary research into potentially you know, 283 00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:42.679 covert clandestine operations in regard to you know, fundamentally creating 284 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:45.000 mass shooters in a real sort of mind control, modern 285 00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:48.559 mind control, a Manchurian candidate program in a way. And 286 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:52.799 this sounds ridiculous that face value, but if few I 287 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:56.480 believe it was nineteen ninety six when Walter Bauert, who 288 00:14:56.519 --> 00:14:58.559 wrote Operation Mind Control, I believe is the name of 289 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:00.840 the book, and it's one of the the tones of 290 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:04.879 MP ultra researchers and investigators, who is very much one 291 00:15:04.879 --> 00:15:07.879 of the most credible, you know books on the subject. 292 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:10.320 And the point being is that in that book, I 293 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:12.799 believe it was in ninety six that he kind of 294 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:16.600 introduced the concept of what was called Operation Openized, and 295 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:21.120 it was basically this concept of manufacturing a Manchurian candidate 296 00:15:21.480 --> 00:15:25.679 to essentially become a mass shooter. So then you could 297 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:30.720 actually the point being is you could manufacture consent for 298 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:34.440 landmark gun legislation for the domestic general public and the 299 00:15:34.480 --> 00:15:37.240 domestic us to effectively disarm themselves. 300 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:39.840 And I think, well, serial killers, that's how they started 301 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:42.840 using like the mass surveillance. So these killers came out 302 00:15:42.919 --> 00:15:44.960 put this fear in people that kind of came out 303 00:15:44.960 --> 00:15:46.919 and know or this brutal and they like to really 304 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:50.039 focus on the Loan serial killer. All these ones were 305 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:53.480

talking about there are groups the Dean Carroll recruited to 306 00:15:53.799 --> 00:15:56.600 two people. Let's go get the Gacy because that one 307 00:15:56.679 --> 00:15:58.840 is like he's convictive of loone serial killer. But that 308 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:01.320 case to see the rested, he's out. Did you get 309 00:16:01.320 --> 00:16:04.559 my associates? Multiple times he had multiple people involved, including 310 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:07.759 this Norman who's making the snuff films. Pasky like said 311 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:11.320 he left him went to Chicago. Oh just real quick too, 312 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:14.200 of Jasey's victim disappeared right by Norman's apartment. Oh yeah, 313 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:16.440 so like so anyways, you go back to Pasky. He 314 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:18.679 went there to work for him. He was there during 315 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:21.759 when his murders really ramped up. Gaycy wasn't even in 316 00:16:21.879 --> 00:16:25.240 Chicago during sixteen of his Uh, so ridiculous. 317 00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:28.200 It's so ridiculous. And and the fact that, again I 318 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:30.120 didn't mean to get kind of off in the weeds 319 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:33.600 on the Manchurian mass shooter concept, but the notion was 320 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:38.720 is basically that sort of the I think it's it's overall, 321 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:42.120 it's it's I think too frequently dismissed kind of in 322 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:44.519 a way when it should be taken much more seriously. 323 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:48.320 In terms of serial killers in general, I believe, especially 324 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:53.080 looking at John David, John Wayne Gacy, Dean Coral, and even. 325 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:54.919 Worder to get into the River murders, then we'll get 326 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:57.279 into that one hundred percent think you're onto something. I 327 00:16:57.279 --> 00:16:59.720 think we have to first kind of break down if 328 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:02.480 you and people want. Dude, you had so much information 329 00:17:02.559 --> 00:17:04.359 you gave me that I was completely overwhelmed. That's when 330 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:06.400 I'm like, let's take one. But then after doing a 331 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:09.240 couple of days research, I started seeing all the connections. 332 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:10.880 Like I said, you would send me a couple of 333 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:12.920 Wikipedia pages, stuff like that, and I was started going down. 334 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:16.039 I'm just being like, Wow, this Gaycy case, this was 335 00:17:16.079 --> 00:17:17.640 good to focus on because it's one of the most 336 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:20.240 famous murders. They made him a lone one. They didn't. 337 00:17:20.240 --> 00:17:23.200 They don't make a big deal of the Carol One, 338 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:25.000 the Ripper murder. The head guy from that doesn't even 339 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:28.319 have a wikiped Pedia page. You know, twenty brutal torture 340 00:17:28.400 --> 00:17:31.839 murder kills in Chicago. It literally started. I don't know 341 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:34.960 I mentioned it. He worked for Gaysey as well, Joey Gaycy. 342 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:37.000 He was his employee when he got busted too, so 343 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:39.759 past he goes comes over starts working for Gayzy. I 344 00:17:39.799 --> 00:17:41.599 almost don't even know if it was a real business, 345 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:44.759 almost like a shell company. Was it PDM contractors? 346 00:17:44.839 --> 00:17:45.440 Contractors? 347 00:17:45.519 --> 00:17:47.759 Yes, and I put the financial records were destroyed. I 348 00:17:47.799 --> 00:17:49.720 tried tracking those down a couple of days ago to 349 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:52.039 see like who was paying them, who he was paying, 350 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:54.680 you know, because they found a paste up passed us. 351 00:17:54.680 --> 00:17:55.759 They know he was there and think he was living 352 00:17:55.799 --> 00:17:58.359 with him at the time, even he had multiple people 353 00:17:58.480 --> 00:18:01.359 living him at the house. He was doing these serial killers, 354 00:18:01.400 --> 00:18:04.000 and they're saying he was like torturing, kidnapping these people 355 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:06.519 with them living there without them knowing. It's like, give 356 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:08.440 me a break, yeah exactly. You know, even like a 357 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:10.599 I'm actually has the possible gaslight and they'd be like, well, 358 00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:12.400 you know, he just did it quietly. It's like, oh 359 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:12.880 my god. 360 00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:17.039 Like and knowing that you have actual detectives from the 361 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:20.759 nineteen seventy three Choral case that were conducting the raid 362 00:18:20.839 --> 00:18:24.319 in Dallas of John David Normou's property and discovered the 363 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:27.039 pink Index cards and all the child pornography and things 364 00:18:27.079 --> 00:18:30.119 of that nature. They went on the record and even 365 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:35.279 claimed that John David Norman is the pedophile of all pedophiles, right, 366 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:37.720 which I thought the master of pedophile operation. 367 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:39.240 He was like that part of the mafia. He ran 368 00:18:39.359 --> 00:18:42.039 the government aduation. He was a sick, disgusting the fact 369 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:43.640 that he kept getting out of jail made me so 370 00:18:43.799 --> 00:18:46.000 mad for these my serious crimes. And he'd be out 371 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:48.279 like six months later. He was constantly belt out by 372 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:50.960 mysterious people like big money bells, like you know, fift 373 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:52.799 thousand dollars that's back then. It's like there will

be 374 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:54.960 like five hundred thousand dollars or two hundred thous whatever. 375 00:18:54.960 --> 00:18:56.640 It would be a lot of money fifty thousand back then, 376 00:18:56.680 --> 00:18:58.279 don't we just swoop in an hoymous person to bell 377 00:18:58.319 --> 00:18:59.039 them out? Every time? 378 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:01.640 It was just like and you saw what happened. Basically, 379 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:06.319 I think it was whenever he because he effectively was convicted. 380 00:19:06.359 --> 00:19:08.799 I believe it was numerous times obviously, and I thought 381 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:11.440 it was interesting and worthwhile in pointing out I want 382 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:13.200 to make sure I got the names of the Odyssey 383 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:17.079 Foundation and their rebrand correct, and it should look this up. 384 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:20.279 Oh for sure. It goes from Odyssey Foundation in Dallas 385 00:19:20.640 --> 00:19:24.640 to his relocation to Illinois and Homewood right in Chicago, 386 00:19:25.079 --> 00:19:26.400 and it becomes the Delta Project. 387 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:28.880 So when he got busted, he basically just changed the name. 388 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:32.079 Essentially, he did because he was actually even in prison, 389 00:19:32.559 --> 00:19:36.640 he was printing his publication of Yes, they allowed him 390 00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:38.319 the printing presses in prison. 391 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:41.119 So he was still selling. Because I saw the still running. 392 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:43.079 I think it was in at least thirty five stays, 393 00:19:43.079 --> 00:19:45.799 if not in every state. This giant like they literally 394 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:47.519 have kids at dorms. You could take it by them 395 00:19:47.519 --> 00:19:51.000 one day, three days, likely permanently. Do we have absolute 396 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:54.240 proof of that? No, But the kill Liss was Deshroid, 397 00:19:54.240 --> 00:19:56.640 which is annoying too because one his children, but it 398 00:19:56.680 --> 00:19:58.920 could have also been other associates for people that were 399 00:19:58.920 --> 00:20:02.319 getting suspicious. We don't know who all had killed. We 400 00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:04.920 just told multiple cards had it, but they won't tell 401 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:05.279 us who. 402 00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:07.240 Yeah, I know, and I think it was, like the 403 00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:11.000 detective said it was six. I think something that that 404 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:13.240 at least the one who went on the record claiming 405 00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:16.119 that that was the tip by the individual who was 406 00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:20.240 unfortunately a young victim procured by Norman and was even 407 00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:23.960 set up right and then through the cards. I think 408 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:28.720 that's because someone from Houston. Dean Coral case just was

409 00:20:28.759 --> 00:20:33.319 exposed and someone from Houston called up the service and 410 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:37.680 he was apparently there and and had basically been aware 411 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:40.079 of the fact that an individual from Houston had called 412 00:20:40.119 --> 00:20:42.359 up the Odyssey service to try and procure you know, 413 00:20:42.440 --> 00:20:46.599 an additional imm Yeah, an additional victim, and he kind 414 00:20:46.599 --> 00:20:48.880 of lost his mind and and freaked out and was 415 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:51.799 concerned that obviously that was connected directly to Dean Coral 416 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:54.359 And so that's why he went forward to the authorities 417 00:20:54.599 --> 00:20:56.960 and went on the record and made statements. And this 418 00:20:57.000 --> 00:21:00.119 is why the raid effectively happened at John David Norman's 419 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:02.640 property in Dallas in the first place. 420 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:05.279 I think it's weird. As as that Dean Carroll, he's 421 00:21:05.319 --> 00:21:07.039 not really known either. I had never heard of him. 422 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:09.880 He's one of the most vicious serial killers. You know. Yeah, 423 00:21:09.880 --> 00:21:12.400 I maybe maybe that's why the Ripper version you get 424 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:14.640 two after Gayzy. 425 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:16.799 By the way, Gaycy and Coral, same exact playbook. They 426 00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:20.279 used these two by fours with torture ropes and these handcuffs, 427 00:21:20.599 --> 00:21:23.039 and they would they even had hypodermic needles that they've 428 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:26.720 found with all these they called them pharmaceutical chemical agents. 429 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:30.880 And I saw an actual evidence herey file of what 430 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:33.039 they said they discovered, and it was like. 431 00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:35.759 Pills and like, but it was more had the same 432 00:21:35.799 --> 00:21:37.880 methods they were handed out. Example, well, there was these 433 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:39.759 two serial killers where I grew up as a kid. 434 00:21:39.799 --> 00:21:41.279 I haven't looked into him because I was like six 435 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:42.799 when it broke up there, so I didn't even want 436 00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:45.000 to look at it. Child memories. They had these torture 437 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:46.799 bunkers under there and there was two of them and 438 00:21:46.839 --> 00:21:49.440 they videoed it. They had meticulous records. It makes me 439 00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:51.319 wonder could there be a connection to this? 440 00:21:51.759 --> 00:21:54.480 And when you know about and I hate to keep 441 00:21:54.880 --> 00:21:58.799 mentioning control. But it's such a great parallel, as terrible 442 00:21:58.799 --> 00:22:00.400 as it is, and I don't mean to even say 443 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:02.960 great or characterize it in a positive way, but but 444 00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:07.119 I legitimately, if if you understand the Detroth fair, that 445 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:09.440 makes shift dungeon that he had and you know in 446 00:22:09.440 --> 00:22:12.960 his property where where you basically had the authorities arrived 447 00:22:13.119 --> 00:22:15.920 during the raid and the girls were screaming. 448 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:18.799 Yes, yes, and that cop got promoted. So literally he 449 00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:20.559 was there with screaming girls because he had calls and 450 00:22:20.599 --> 00:22:23.079 he just walked out said he was shut up. He 451 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:27.279 basically a copy. Yeah, this is uh, this the Trow cases. 452 00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:31.400 We will do. No, I actually want to go deep. 453 00:22:31.680 --> 00:22:33.519 I just didn't. It's just so dark. I didn't want 454 00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:36.160 to cover these two together because it's just ohel and 455 00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:37.799 these are the ones. The troll was when I first 456 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:40.480 realized this stuff was real, because before, like Franklin, I'll 457 00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:42.559 be like, well maybe it's not real. But the trow 458 00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:44.880 when you have the bodies, that's why we're talking about today, 459 00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:46.839 I think is good because you have all these bodies. 460 00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:49.440 They just tried paying it off on one person, just 461 00:22:49.480 --> 00:22:51.960 like just Crow. He even said he was a procure 462 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:55.319 just like John Wayne Gacy. They're telling you that they're 463 00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:58.079 just working for other people, but no one's believing them. 464 00:22:58.160 --> 00:22:59.880 Even the guy that was profile I was watching it, 465 00:22:59.880 --> 00:23:01.720 he would shut him down when he'd start mentioning. Other 466 00:23:01.720 --> 00:23:04.000 people want to play a video a second or so 467 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:05.359 the only players right now that we can talk more 468 00:23:05.359 --> 00:23:08.119 about Gacy's operation. I think this first video you can 469 00:23:08.160 --> 00:23:09.519 put it at like one point two or one and 470 00:23:09.519 --> 00:23:11.359 a half speed. We'll just walk it and we could 471 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:12.920 talk to the beginning parts when it's not real. 472 00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:16.039 Five nights in News Extra, we've heard an extraordinary story 473 00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:18.920 told by a desperate man. John Wayne Gacy is trying 474 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:21.240 to rewrite history and retry his case. 475 00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:25.559 In the very beginning, he also said that he didn't 476 00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:27.640 act alone. And it's like, I don't know if this 477 00:23:27.759 --> 00:23:29.119 videos will watch a bunch of for one, but it 478 00:23:29.160 --> 00:23:30.799 feels like the guy is trying to shut him

down 479 00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:32.799 and change at the guy who's interviewing him. It felt 480 00:23:32.839 --> 00:23:34.880 like he was there to act like he says, oh no, 481 00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:37.559 there wasn't a mass thing, despite him not being there 482 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:41.279 when it happened, having multiple serial killers, multiple people from 483 00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:45.559 his business were fucking disappearing. Two people escaped and went 484 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:47.359 to the cops said they were like tortured and raped 485 00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:49.920 they did. They ignored it like it's a school. We'll 486 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:52.039 get to his political involvements. Let's watch the video then 487 00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:53.720 we'll get into his political ties too. 488 00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:56.720 On Summerdale for years it was his home as channel 489 00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:58.440 who's Walter Jacobson is here to tell us it is 490 00:23:58.480 --> 00:24:00.880 the center of Gacy's case and all of his alibis 491 00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:01.640 Walter Linda. 492 00:24:01.640 --> 00:24:03.119 As you know, it was the house on Summerdale that 493 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:06.240 he buried twenty six. It was his home and his 494 00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:10.680 office as well, and that any number of people could 495 00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:11.839 have been involved. 496 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:15.279 Well had just gone tracking jobs those kids then used 497 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:18.119 as well to find victims near the place. Have houses 498 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:18.599 you could do. 499 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:21.559 So remember that pharmacy where one of the victims disappeared 500 00:24:21.559 --> 00:24:26.000 that caused the raid in home, I believe on the 501 00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:29.880 PDM home office, right the John Wayne Gacy's property where 502 00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:33.799 all the the incriminating evidence was found. Right Basically it 503 00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:38.240 was a pharmacy, local pharmacy nearby that apparently PDUM contractors 504 00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:42.279 had had they had been contracted out to perform at 505 00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:45.599 least a few separate jobs right on that pharmacy. And 506 00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:48.359 it turns out that the kid had that went missing 507 00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:51.559 had worked at that pharmacy, and apparently the owner of 508 00:24:51.599 --> 00:24:54.160 this pharmacy was also personal friends. Went on the record 509 00:24:54.200 --> 00:24:55.000 with John Wayne Gacy. 510 00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:57.640 I think lots of these businesses working for almost like 511 00:24:57.720 --> 00:25:01.039 shell companies just funding it, and that's why operations. He 512 00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:03.039 might have killed people in some of these other homes 513 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:03.480 as well. 514 00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:12.240 See, there's a misconception of what the house on summer Moth. 515 00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:14.319 Of people live in the house were supposed to believe 516 00:25:14.359 --> 00:25:16.119 that he was like the only one there, The only 517 00:25:16.119 --> 00:25:17.160 one knew there's killings. 518 00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:18.759 Was the private office section. 519 00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:19.480 One of the. 520 00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:23.839 Kitchen was more like a fast food kitchen. 521 00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:26.240 Sorry, he's painting a picture of a busy place, but 522 00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:29.559 conveniently omitting the crawl space, which he divided into plots 523 00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:30.720 like a cemetery numbers one. 524 00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:32.799 So the first couple times they searched the home, they 525 00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:35.559 didn't find the bodies. That's so ridiculous, Like that's another 526 00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:37.319 delivered like the police like, oh nobody's in here. 527 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:40.599 That sounds like deliberately getting rid of of evidence in 528 00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:41.400 my opinion. 529 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:43.119 Right, And then once he finally got caught, then he 530 00:25:43.160 --> 00:25:45.200 becomes the fall guy. So I was trying to cover 531 00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:47.079 it up. We're not gonna get into it. But Ted 532 00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:52.960 Bundy all these cases, Yeah, exactly, same patterns. 533 00:25:53.240 --> 00:25:54.960 Six feet by about three feet and a foot and 534 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:57.759 a half deep. That was under the house up above 535 00:25:57.759 --> 00:25:59.799 eighty two thirteen Wes summer Dale was not only were Daisy, 536 00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:03.319 as he says, but headquarters for his company PDM Construction 537 00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:07.119 and a flophouse. Again all right, off, Gaysey is now 538 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:08.160 laying the blame for the murder. 539 00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:13.319 And look at him at the time, looking at people 540 00:26:13.480 --> 00:26:16.680 who are supposed to be these monsters, right, and just 541 00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:17.559 obviously he is. 542 00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:20.680 Yea, these guys really are monsters. But there's a whole 543 00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:23.480 network and this guy is not the head monster's operation. 544 00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:26.920 It's Norman. But it was the past. Uh, what's the past? 545 00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:30.000 He is the guy who was running his operation through Norman, right, 546 00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:34.240 and or at least that's our speculation both in that part, 547 00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:36.279 but it almost but there's a lot of reason why 548 00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:37.880 we're speculating this absolutely. 549 00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:42.240 Uh, there was four other suspects. Three of the suspects 550 00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:45.000 that we knew that they knew then was Michael Rossi, 551 00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:49.000 David Cram

and Philip Pasty, all employees of Medium Contractors. 552 00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:50.039 All the keys to the house. 553 00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:53.319 He said he was introduced to Phil Pasky through David 554 00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:57.000 Cram I believe is what he claimed personally John Wyne Gacy, 555 00:26:57.240 --> 00:27:00.200 And so I do think that he was much more. Yes, 556 00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:01.680 he was a part of the network. Yes, he was 557 00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:05.680 helping picture them duct children. I believe he definitely said 558 00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:08.599 he killed five participated in the murder of a few 559 00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:11.079 of the children, exactly five I believe was the number. 560 00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:15.920 And and so knowing this clearly he is a mons psychopathic, 561 00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:21.160 you know, predator, and just the murderous tendencies of this network, 562 00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:21.759 you know, it's. 563 00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:23.960 Like, it's crazy how they would network together. Part of 564 00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:26.079 them are a coach. Part of them are these meeting 565 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:28.799 and finding these pedophiles in prison knowing they can't do it. 566 00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:31.759 There's the gay angle, which initially I was thinking that 567 00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:33.440 was the main angle that this wasn't covered, but then 568 00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:35.240 the Ripper murders is different, which we'll get into. But 569 00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:36.200 he was we play the rest of this. 570 00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:39.240 And they had friends, Gasey says, and friends of friends, 571 00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:41.759 as he weaves for me and Alibi. There was Michael Rossi, 572 00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:44.039 for one, who worked for PDM and actually lived there 573 00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:46.920 during the time of the murders, Gasey and Rossie socialized 574 00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:48.599 in the house, so they're living the church. 575 00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:49.480 I didn't hear anything. 576 00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:51.599 I met him the night he was killed because I 577 00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:53.920 met him with Michael Rossi. I had a drink with 578 00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:55.359 the two of them, and then I left, and when 579 00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:58.559 I next seen the individual, he was dead. Did you 580 00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:00.200 see Why didn't I say something about it, as it 581 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:01.599 wasn't my business, and I say it out of other 582 00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:02.319 people's business. 583 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:04.480 Where did you see him? Did in the house? Summer? 584 00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:07.640 Did tell you who had killed him? And this was 585 00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:09.599 a thing he's trying to pass the blame on, which 586 00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:11.640 that's a fair argument. But the problem is there there 587 00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:14.359 is so much evidence supporting what he's saying true, the 588 00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:16.240 fact that he's in a different state during sixteen of 589 00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:18.440 the murders, they all lived in them at this house. 590 00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:21.839 He's like directly connected with these big other networks. And 591 00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:23.960 so we'll get into the guy, the leader of the 592 00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:27.039 ripper Verds we'll do after this, was also living with them, 593 00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:28.920 working for him during all this. This guy's one of 594 00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:31.599 the So you have three. These are the only three 595 00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:34.359 crews that I could find in American history of three 596 00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:36.839 or more people kidnap, being and torturing people. And they're 597 00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:37.599 all connected to the. 598 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:42.279 Same thing, but yet making isolated solo perpetrators acting alone 599 00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:43.559 as serial killers. 600 00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:46.680 Is what the consoles are finding These connections like everything 601 00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:48.839 just keeps shooting them down, Like, no, they're not connected. 602 00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:51.599 They're not connected. You know, the Wikipedia will show you 603 00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:54.599 the John Wayne Gacy and the Choral one that they won't. 604 00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:57.279 They won't show you the Nothing will show you the 605 00:28:57.359 --> 00:28:59.480 Ripper murders and any reped thing. You have to, like, 606 00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:02.039 I forget how I stumbled across that, then the connection 607 00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:02.200 of the. 608 00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:05.559 Murdered that they'll just briefly mention it in passing like Ripper, 609 00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:07.519 you know, and and then you have to kind of 610 00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:09.200 like follow that up on their own lot. 611 00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:14.279 This guy Rework, I don't think, no all the versus 612 00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:16.759 of like a race. The guy doesn't even have a Wikipedia, 613 00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:19.599 which is didn't I don't think any other serial killer 614 00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:22.039 is that many murders that not at all. We'll get 615 00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:24.759 into the mind control aspect after we cover the Gazy Rose. 616 00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:26.880 He was sleeping on account how I just left and 617 00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:29.119 how did he get buried? He was buried in the 618 00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:31.440 gross but when I come back, he wasn't there, so walk. 619 00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:35.359 The truth in my opinion, that kind of his living 620 00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:37.960 room and doesn't say anything because it's not his business. Well, 621 00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:39.839 if you don't believe that, he has another story. I 622 00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:42.200 love that

being so high on drugs, we didn't know 623 00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:42.799 what he was doing. 624 00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:43.160 No. 625 00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:45.160 I started back in nineteen eighty four. I started taking 626 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:47.119 ten milligram of value and by the top of this 627 00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:49.359 was the nation around, I was doing one hundred and 628 00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:51.839 thirty miligram of voluum. But then I was moving eighty 629 00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:54.480 jobs a year, and I was working sixteen eighteen hour days, 630 00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:56.319 and I just had to have something to take the pressure. 631 00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.599 So water. If he was like was being partially drugged people, 632 00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:00.640 obviously he's a monster. 633 00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:04.720 But and clearly we we mentioned that connection to the pharmacy, 634 00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:07.440 right you have you have the strange drugs found at 635 00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:09.839 his property during the raid, and he had there were 636 00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:14.680 blackmail files on like legitimate high profile individuals and prominent 637 00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:15.440 figures that were. 638 00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:19.160 Like that's actually kipt over that, Like that's team thing, 639 00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:23.240 the black the whole blackmail into it is a huge possibility, 640 00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:26.279 Like it's multi purpose, you know, selling the snuff films, 641 00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:29.359 the sex blackmail. There's nothing bigger than blackmail. No one's 642 00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:31.799 forgiving you if you do something this monster is. It's 643 00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:35.599 like it's a level of you know, absolute control to 644 00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:37.160 let you in the club, you know, if you do 645 00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:40.000 something this disgusting and evil. And I don't think this 646 00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:42.000 stuf's gone away. I think they're more going into orphanages 647 00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:44.519 now in foreign countries. And that's that's the second. 648 00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:48.039 Remember the Finder's cult, right, I mean, what did they 649 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:50.839 discover when they rated the properties of the Finders, the 650 00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:54.039 w Suter departments and the warehousing, and they. 651 00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:56.599 Also found this cult real quick. They have the kids 652 00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:59.599 that were kidnapped. The CIA came and shut this operation 653 00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:03.039 down there and satanic rituals, fighter's culls crazy. I've actually 654 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:04.759 done an episode on it before, you know, we talked, 655 00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:08.160 we talked about it. We have several previous episodes and 656 00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:10.160 filming some now I'm not sure what we're dropping these end. 657 00:31:10.319 -->

00:31:12.599 There was a finish this interview and then uh so. 658 00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:14.640 The next thing people wonder is what about the smell 659 00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:17.240 in the house of decomposing bodies. Casey has a loss 660 00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:18.200 of apso story for that. 661 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:21.480 When I was arrested, they claimed, well, there was this 662 00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:23.599 putre fright odor in the house. And I contend that 663 00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:25.799 was a lot of hogwash too, because one off their 664 00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:29.319 shoults claims on the eighteenth, around the nineteenth that as 665 00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:30.680 he came into the house, we had come into the 666 00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.160 house and my little last apso was in the house, 667 00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:34.599 and of course he had been locked in the kitchen 668 00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:37.119 you know all day. Well, the little puppy, he piddles, 669 00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:40.200 see and while he's piddling and while he. 670 00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:43.960 Is Yeah, I mean, obviously, I don't think there's much 671 00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:45.440 more on this video where you can just play or 672 00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:48.559 we talk for a second's case, you could just see 673 00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:51.079 the fact, I want to take this guy's word for things, 674 00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:52.680 but the fact that people were all living on you 675 00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:55.279 have other serial killers there. You have several other sherial 676 00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:58.119 killers living with them. He was killing people from his work. 677 00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:00.839 It's like if you're running because struction company, you're not 678 00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:04.079 trying to find workers that are like transient homeless pedophiles, 679 00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:07.319 gay men. It's just like such a bizarre we get 680 00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:08.880 stop this. There's one more. I wanted to play with 681 00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:11.279 Gaycy real quick, just because I want to play just 682 00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:14.279 a minute of this because it's all wait to show people. 683 00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:16.119 It's just such a weird coincidence I found which I 684 00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:18.400 don't have an explanation for it, but I just thought 685 00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:19.880 it was worth mentioning, is it? The second video is 686 00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:20.400 go play. 687 00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:22.400 This not on News Extra, a portrait of a killer, 688 00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:25.920 paintings and diaries that provide a frightening view inside the 689 00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:28.720 mind of the worst mass killer in American history, John 690 00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:32.240 Wayne Gacy. Tonight, Gaysey talks exclusively to our Walter Jacobson 691 00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:34.039 and reveals a part of his life that most of 692 00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:34.839

us have never seen. 693 00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:37.400 Walter and there are personality traits that are common to 694 00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.839 mass killers, including arrogance and cunning and enough cleverness to 695 00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:42.559 kill many times without getting caught. 696 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:45.039 John Darcy has all those things and then some. 697 00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:50.000 There's something that this found really interesting to make of it? 698 00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:53.240 And Gaysey is a Kentucky Jurnel. 699 00:32:57.880 --> 00:32:59.880 God, I'm gay loves clowns. 700 00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:03.119 To me, clowning was a way of relaxation. 701 00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:21.519 Child. Oh my god, my thirty three. I don't know. 702 00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:24.920 You know there is a numerology the Freemasons. Thirty three 703 00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:27.880 is this number. I I can't tell you why. I 704 00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:30.279 don't want to make of it. Let's play this game, 705 00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:37.039 because I think that the thirty three flavors ice cream. 706 00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:44.839 That's so incredible. See again, did he yeah? Wow, it 707 00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:46.680 means that I didn't I don't have to. I can't 708 00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:47.279 tell you what. 709 00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:51.920 Is Originally Pogo comes from being Polish and on the go, 710 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:53.039 the clown. 711 00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:55.960 Wow, on the go for Democrats as Norwoodark Committee of 712 00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:59.759 Thuscelan Carter, the first Lady in the Carter administration. Right here, 713 00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:02.039 that's hiding the fact that there are bodies buried under 714 00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:02.400 his house. 715 00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:05.200 He's the great hanging out. 716 00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:08.039 With the first Lady, organized the great as the ja 717 00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:11.559 as the vice president of the j C chapter the 718 00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:11.840 j C. 719 00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:16.119 But this is really powerful organization that he was part 720 00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:18.000 of and wasn't even doing that in prison. 721 00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:21.000 Well j he actually didn't run the j C chapter 722 00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:23.519 in prison, which is crazy that. Yeah, he was still 723 00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:25.800 a part of that. And it really is like this, 724 00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:30.320 it's a political organization for youths. Basically, it's it's basically 725 00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:33.840 to to essentially well and by the way, on that 726 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:37.000 clown A Y J A y C E E s 727 00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:39.679 and just so uh you're aware, by the way that 728 00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:43.199 that clown connection I found to be incredible and uh 729 00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:47.679 basically there's a uh, there was a clown Ministry in Dallas, right, 730 00:34:47.800

--> 00:34:52.239 that was fundamentally attached to and this shout out to 731 00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.639 to a content creator that I really she's she's great. 732 00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:57.800 We've had many conversations in the past, and she's done 733 00:34:57.840 --> 00:34:59.960 great work on the Processed Church of the Final Judgment 734 00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:04.639 on Twitter. Absolutely the ultimate eval son of Sam. 735 00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:08.000 It is all connected. Is too much to try to 736 00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:08.719 connect it. 737 00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:11.440 It really is. But but the only reason I mentioned 738 00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:15.119 her is once she's great and her name's I think 739 00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:19.079 it's it's the handle, but uh, she she actually tipped 740 00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:20.800 me off on this, which I thought was insane on 741 00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:23.159 a post where you say you try to put it 742 00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:26.840 up on I'll send it to But just realizing that 743 00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:31.159 you have an individual that's a director of the clown Ministry, right, 744 00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:36.840 and you see this picture looking and and this is 745 00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:42.800 as she said, right, You see that it's a memoir 746 00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.480 apparently by a child who grew up in the pro 747 00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:51.599 sociopathic leader of the Dallas chapter who didn't like kids, 748 00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:55.440 instead calling the processed kids. Her intifada is the name 749 00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:58.239 Lucius Smith, who is the director of the Clown Ministry. 750 00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:02.679 And so the fact that that reference was effectively made right, 751 00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:06.039 and I thought it was very fascinating because this connects 752 00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:11.280 to wait for it, the Foundation newsletter. This is the 753 00:36:11.320 --> 00:36:14.239 Foundation Faith of God, right, and it's an outreach in 754 00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:18.039 nineteen eighty one, and it's the Dallas Foundation the exact 755 00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:20.480 same period of time. Right. 756 00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:22.159 It looks so creepy. I'll try to get these and 757 00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:22.679 you put these on. 758 00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:23.760 The Yeah, I all send it too. 759 00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:27.760 Creepy clowns. That's just the Actually he played a clown 760 00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:29.519 because it's like, oh, you look good overside you, but 761 00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:31.920 it's like an evil looking clown. Right. And there's a 762 00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:35.679 Freemason offshoot, the Shiners, who have something of the Jesters, 763 00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:38.519 and they've had some pedophilia. They've done pedal acuizations. 764 00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:40.960 I'm telling you. So when it boils down to it 765 00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:42.960 and the processed Church of the Final Judgment is one 766 00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:46.559 of the most fascinatings, you know, organizations and a cult 767 00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:50.440 sort of it's definitely has an occult philosophy that they 768 00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:53.239 kind of created their own form of, like it's from 769 00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:56.400 an offshoot of the Church of Scientology. They were personal friends. 770 00:36:56.719 --> 00:37:00.960 Robert de grahamston With was the founder and personal friends 771 00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:02.199 of l Ron Hubbard. Right. 772 00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:05.880 Fascinating stuff right next to like so many never end. 773 00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.559 It's just like so many connections. Oh God. 774 00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:10.800 But anyway, I just sent you that tweet. But I 775 00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:12.920 did think, you know that that stuck out to me 776 00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:15.840 when I saw her tweet that because I thought there's 777 00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:19.320 no coincidence that John Wayne Gacy was dressing up like 778 00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.800 a clown and then you have this strange offshoot close 779 00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:26.119 in proximity to the processed Church chapter. 780 00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:29.559 As a consequence of being truly a free speech podcast, 781 00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:33.199 I've been demonetized on YouTube, x, Facebook and almost everywhere else. 782 00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:35.320 To be able to fund the podcast, I were like 783 00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:38.039 fully on support from viewers like you. You can support 784 00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:41.039 the podcast by going to fight backpodcast dot com, where 785 00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:42.800 you can buy merch or sign up to become a member, 786 00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:45.920 which will have early access and extra content. I'm definitely 787 00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:47.920 not going anywhere, and I really appreciate all of your 788 00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:50.400 guys support. Hey guys, I want to introduce Shoot to 789 00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:53.760 one of our sponsors, Analope Hill Publishing. Analop Hill publishes 790 00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:57.000 books such as Culture of Critique by doctor Kevin McDonald, 791 00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:59.280 who's someone I've interviewed on my show. He talks about 792 00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:01.960 the evolutionary strategy of the chosen people to go to 793 00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:05.840 annalophill Publishing dot com and use promo code fight back, 794 00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:09.039 Support the podcast and get a discount. That's annalop Hill 795 00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:12.239 Publishing dot Com and promo code fight back. Yeah. So 796 00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:15.719 Gaysey wasn't some random person he's meeting with the first lady. 797 00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:18.360 He's high up in politics. He has all these shell 798 00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:22.440 companies with tons of money flowing through, multiple serial killers

799 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:26.159 living in his house. It's just like he had this 800 00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:29.360 whole like shell of his political connections around him, which 801 00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:31.480 is why when he would get arrested, he'd get out 802 00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:34.000 of jail, when he'd be accused of rape and murder, 803 00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:36.559 the cops just make it go away. Why they wouldn't 804 00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:38.800 find the bodies in his house. 805 00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:42.320 It's just and you know that, by the way, John 806 00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:45.559 Wayne Gacy, I found so fascinating that while he's living 807 00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:48.840 in Waterloom, right, he basically this is like I believe 808 00:38:48.880 --> 00:38:50.920 early sixties, I think is around the time that it 809 00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:54.920 actually was. He had very you know, he had acquired 810 00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:58.800 a significant number of properties and businesses, which I thought interesting, 811 00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:01.639 And so I found that is where basically, and this 812 00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:03.480 is from Program to Kill, which is one of the 813 00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:07.280 greatest books ever around To Kill Dave mcgallan was the 814 00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:11.719 author and late the late great Dave mcgawan. You could say, uh, 815 00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:15.440 he really put a lot of these concepts on the 816 00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:19.800 record as an introduction, introductory point of view through Program 817 00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:23.119 to Kill, and a lot of people, uh kind of 818 00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:26.480 credit him with introducing many people to these ideas, right, 819 00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:28.480 and so he has certain chapters. 820 00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:30.239 Of government to kill people exactly. 821 00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:33.719 Yeah, Program to Kill essentially going on record claiming that 822 00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:37.079 you had a US Navy psychologist, you had all these 823 00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:41.480 these individuals, go on the record claiming that essentially through 824 00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:46.360 project the Phoenix Project, they were basically you know, radicalizing 825 00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:51.639 these these individual you know, assets which which were obviously deployed, 826 00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:55.159 you know, individuals in the military at the time. And 827 00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:57.880 in reality you had Lewis johny and West was one 828 00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:02.239 specific individual who Dominus that many people view as like 829 00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:04.960 on the Mount rushmore of mind control operatives. 830 00:40:05.039 --> 00:40:05.199 Right. 831 00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:08.079 Interesting, Yeah, obviously Lewis Jill and West. 832 00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:11.400 Is tied to him and this stuff. It's very real, 833 00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:15.280 m kilta. Our government was running all kinds of crazy 834 00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:19.840 experiments through for mind control, through drugs, torture. That's why 835 00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:22.800 it's very possible to all these things. And the Thames 836 00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:23.880 could be an MK. 837 00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:28.599 Ultra offshoot, right, and just knowing that you have examples 838 00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:33.159 that we can point to which are unfortunately never ending, right. 839 00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:35.159 And we should do an episode where we run through 840 00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:37.159 and just talk about this because you've sent me all 841 00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:40.519 kinds of interesting videos, like the Atlantis serial killer. You're 842 00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:42.719 talking about being a CIA asset and this was a 843 00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:44.360 huge serial killer. 844 00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:47.760 Yeah, twenty nine I think young boys, it was unbelieve 845 00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:51.599 that and it's just another ridiculous number, right, and around 846 00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:54.440 the exact same period of time, you know, recruited as 847 00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:58.559 a teenager and trained in these these methods and techniques, 848 00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:01.159 even how to fire a weapon by CIA to compound 849 00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:04.320 domestically in the US. This is something that was proven 850 00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:08.639 to have actually existed under the Nixon administration. Nixon actually 851 00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:11.559 called up Howard hughes Right. No, it's actually when Nixon 852 00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:14.000 was VP. It was before he was president, so his 853 00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:16.360 VP at the time. He calls up Howard Hughes Right, 854 00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:20.599 the first America's first billionaire, and he asked him too, 855 00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:24.719 for plausible deniability, will you set up CIA domestic black 856 00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:26.400 sides domestically within the US? 857 00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:27.000 Wow? 858 00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:28.440 On behalf of the. 859 00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:31.519 Like, this could be a CIA black spite John Wayne 860 00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:32.719 Dacy's operation. 861 00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:36.239 You legitimately have well, I believe that Wayne Williams was 862 00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:39.440 trained on a CIA black side for that literally. 863 00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:41.960 Like basically said that interview, not those act wordings, but 864 00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:43.800 that's like there's an interview of it. Maybe we're acting 865 00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:46.199 it separately of him, right saying that, And then there's 866 00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:49.480 all these Ted Bundy audities. Escaped prison twice, it's like 867 00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:52.079 he's let out probably exactly like how often do these 868 00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:53.599 murderers escape prison? 869

00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:56.519 Oh man, there's a there's It's so fascinating too because 870 00:41:56.679 --> 00:41:59.920 I believe he so he was Ted Bundy just briefly 871 00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:04.760 he was actually this again, you have this strange connection 872 00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:09.559 where basically it's these drivers for very well connected political 873 00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:12.519 you know, chauffeur connection is what it's called technically, and 874 00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:16.639 where like individuals who will then become prolific predators are 875 00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:20.199 like at least prominent figures that that obviously will be 876 00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:22.960 known to the public after a major scandal takes place. 877 00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:27.599 This happens very frequently where somehow they're they're aligned to 878 00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:31.440 like the Elmhouse, get that Elm guesthouse affair, and in 879 00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:34.639 the UK this prime example. It's just crazy to me 880 00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:38.400 that you have so many windows into this exact playbook. 881 00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:42.000 And so you have these low level pedophiles utilizing the 882 00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:47.480 chauffeur front company to traffic children in the boot of 883 00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:51.119 cars like internationally across you know, obviously in the UK 884 00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:54.880 you can very quickly cross national borders, and so I 885 00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:58.800 think they'll use these car services in the trafficking operations. 886 00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:01.760 And Mark de trou did exact same thing, and which 887 00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:02.800 is so crazy to me. 888 00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:06.039 So there's there's an't I knew it, But there's all 889 00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:08.719 these like films that were discovered and that was in Belgium, 890 00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:11.400 but in the same area. The shit's all tied to 891 00:43:11.480 --> 00:43:13.760 Europe America. It's not just I think a lot of 892 00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.400 it had earlier been moved over into the orphanages and stuff. 893 00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:17.480 Now I don't think it still. 894 00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:20.280 Remember the finders, what did they find in the warehouse 895 00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:24.039 they and the w Street apartments. They found these private 896 00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:27.880 communication nodes, these these computer modules. And this is late eighties, 897 00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:31.199 right eighty seven was when the Finders got got cotton Tallahassee, 898 00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:33.760 Florida with six kids who were all dishoveled and couldn't 899 00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:34.719 even use the bathroom, and. 900 00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:36.320 Know who they were who their parents were. 901 00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:37.440 It was insane. 902 00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:40.280 Honestly, they were making a picture of them doing satanic

rituals. 903 00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:42.719 They were like abusing these kids. We might control on them, 904 00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:44.480 say they made it go away. 905 00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:46.760 Right, And but what they did discover, the evidence that 906 00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:50.559 was actually discovered and later on obviously nothing came of 907 00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:53.880 it unfortunately, was the fact that they had all these 908 00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:56.599 various Not only were the computer modules set up to 909 00:43:56.679 --> 00:44:00.639 peer to peer privately communicate, they had another fellow. 910 00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:02.199 People couldn't read over what he means. 911 00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:04.800 No, it was a private communication network. So this was 912 00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:10.679 basically this computer itself can only directly communicate with another 913 00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:14.400 period of peer module within the private communication network exactly 914 00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:18.440 the same. So this is how kind of intelligence operations functions. 915 00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:24.039 It's to obviously create that kind of just in terms 916 00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:27.920 of insulate yourself, right, And so I think it's fascinating 917 00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:31.119 because what they discovered is that the Finders, members of 918 00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:36.400 the Finders cult, they were legitimately attempting through the communication 919 00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:39.840 process on the private module. And there was an individual 920 00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:42.880 by the name of Stuart Silverstone I believe was his name, 921 00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:46.440 who was caught at the apartments and warehouse whenever it 922 00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:48.920 was rated, and he was just trying to delete evidence. 923 00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:50.920 Right, Oh yeah, because one of them, I think they 924 00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:53.000 discovered all these pictures on one again, a lot of 925 00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:55.440 them disappeared another one, all the stuff had been deleted. 926 00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:57.400 They were tipped off there and getrated exactly. 927 00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:00.239 They had already known. They had prior knowledge because they 928 00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:06.320 also found a mobile communication node on campus at Florida 929 00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:12.000 State near Tallahassee that apparently communicated with the Finders private network. 930 00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:16.280 And so somebody went to Florida State after the Tallahassee 931 00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:20.000 arrest and tipped off the members in d C. 932 00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:22.000 They were able to destroy their information. 933 00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:24.239 So they were already moving children. There were notes in 934 00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:26.679 the files of evidence that said how to keep the 935 00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:29.639 children moving through various jurisdictions so that they wouldn't be 936 00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:32.960 exposed to the police or any actual you know, integral 937 00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:34.039 investigation process. 938 00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:36.320 You know what, really, I don't want to get two authors. 939 00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:38.719 Something that disturbed me on the Finders cool they had 940 00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:41.840 all these like collections of papers and like schedules of 941 00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:46.719 like babysitters looking at orphanages foreign countries. They had all 942 00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:49.599 these documents and finding ways to get killed children through 943 00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:53.599 kidnapping orphanages. It's just as a father. It's just like, 944 00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:56.840 oh my god, it's terrible. And then again you have 945 00:45:56.920 --> 00:45:59.440 a cult and a tied to the government. They were 946 00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:02.199 directly tied to the CIA. Yeah, the CIA said it 947 00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:03.920 was an internal matter and told the police to stop 948 00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:06.679 investing exactly what happened. When people look this up, but 949 00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:09.679 they were having any questions about what we're saying. It's like, yeah, 950 00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:11.880 the Finder's cult, that's just an offshoot. But it shows 951 00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:14.280 when you see the same thing of these Colts. And 952 00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:16.719 I don't know if John Wayne Gaze he nextcessarily had 953 00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:18.840 a Colts, but he had this guy working for him 954 00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:22.079 at the same time these murders, Robin Gates maybe his name. 955 00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:25.000 He's basically been written out of history. He was literally 956 00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:27.159 working for this guy. As soon as she stopped killing people, 957 00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:30.119 that's when he started his sterio killer operation. Four people 958 00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:34.480 he got together, which is unwrare. She's horrific. Kidnapping, torture, murders, 959 00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:37.000 could be stuff films. I had another video I wanted 960 00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:38.440 to play real quick. Do you have a video on 961 00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:42.119 there of this Robin this robbing guy. Yeah, this is 962 00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:43.960 this should be a big case. But the point he's 963 00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:46.559 written out of history. Oh, this during the Satanic Panic. 964 00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:49.960 He said he was killing for the Church of Satan. 965 00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:53.519 Anton Levey, let's get into the significance of that after 966 00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:54.719 we watched his video. 967 00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:57.119 Personal Friends of Michael Akino, right exactly. 968 00:46:57.199 --> 00:46:58.599 Yeah, that's what I wanted to get to. Let's watch 969 00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:00.559 this

first time. We'll get to that because I think 970 00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:02.639 that's it's just so hard to tell the story because 971 00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:04.599 there's so many pieces. Let's watch this real quick. 972 00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:07.880 Rituals wouldn't be contained to this one attic space, though, 973 00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:10.280 as during their early meetings, the leader made it clear 974 00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:12.800 they were going to have to find some sacrifices for 975 00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:14.840 them to place at the altar if they wanted to 976 00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:19.239 appease the devil. Edwin and the Cocorrales brothers went along 977 00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:21.920 with it, because by then the three young men had 978 00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:24.840 taken to believing that Robin actually did have some kind 979 00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:27.519 of supernatural powers and then he could use them to 980 00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:32.880 control people around him, both mentally and physically. So partially, if. 981 00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:35.400 I was real quick, because we're talking about mk Ultra, 982 00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:38.159 I just thought that little thing was so interesting. The 983 00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:41.039 guy who worked for Gayzy's operation, and he made some 984 00:47:41.079 --> 00:47:43.679 comments about the mistakes Gaysey made and stuff like he 985 00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:46.639 learned from that operation comes on. They're saying he felt 986 00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:48.400 like he had mind control of him, like he was 987 00:47:48.440 --> 00:47:51.159 manipulating these people into going and doing these horrific murders 988 00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:54.320 with him. And then the church Saint Antonovay, who is 989 00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:57.360 like connected the Jewish mafia helps supply weapons to Israel. 990 00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:01.519 And mister Michael a Quino, which I think we both 991 00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:04.599 believe he's one of the top top operators here. People 992 00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:06.800 they might be interested in him because you can connect 993 00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:10.039 it to Turning Point to kind of an off because 994 00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:14.639 he wrote a book called Psychological Warfare from Blind War 995 00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:17.360 The Psychology of Victory, and he wrote this with a 996 00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:21.800 guy who's on the board. I don't know much about him, 997 00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:23.239 do you. He's been hard to find about. 998 00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:27.320 He's an interesting individual on his own right. But you know, 999 00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:33.079 these these people, they basically that book itself, they essentially 1000 00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:36.679 provided us with the psyop warfare doctrine against it in 1001 00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:37.239 a real way. 1002 00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:40.400 Yeah, exactly, the warfare is against us, not like literally 1003 00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:42.320 they wrote a book about this, and this is Turning Point. 1004 00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:45.239 One of the guys in that and this Michael Aquino. Man, 1005 00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:48.480 he's one of the darkest figures period. I mean at 1006 00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:50.239 one point, we would do a separate thing on him, 1007 00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:53.960 because it's just it's just like it's just so obvious 1008 00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:55.840 how guilty he is. So all you have to do 1009 00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:58.599 is look at the police reports in San Francisco. He 1010 00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:01.119 wasn't acquitted, he wasn't convicted of but you could look 1011 00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:02.760 at those police reports and you're going to know the 1012 00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:04.519 one hundred percent is already this guy was guilty. 1013 00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:09.599 It's undeniable. In my opinion, I find this Michael Lochino himself, 1014 00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:11.800 I believe, and John DeCamp went on the record and 1015 00:49:11.880 --> 00:49:14.199 in his book he wrote about how he believed that 1016 00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:20.000 essentially we could we could basically pin Michael Achino with 1017 00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:25.159 being the project manager for Project Monarch, which is legitimately 1018 00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:29.480 a trauma based mind control operation that prioritizes children. And 1019 00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:32.360 so I think what is what was realized? And this 1020 00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:35.679 is very sad, and honestly we have far too many 1021 00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:38.679 examples of this being the case as well. But essentially 1022 00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:43.639 it's prepubescent trauma is what fractures the psychology of as 1023 00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:46.920 far as like the the neurological pathways in your brain. 1024 00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:50.519 And also I had this trauma psychiatrist talk to me 1025 00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:53.320 about this specifically I thought it was interesting that she 1026 00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:55.639 reached out to me and just kind of you know, 1027 00:49:56.360 --> 00:49:59.400 shared with me like almost the expertise, like in a 1028 00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:04.000 scientific how it works, and it was fascinating and kind 1029 00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:09.079 of claiming that it was a strategic attempt at basically 1030 00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:15.119 eroding the process and disrupting the natural process of an individual, 1031 00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:19.599 especially a young child, developing a core identity, so that 1032 00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:23.880 it catches you the child early enough you disrupt that 1033 00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:29.519 that fundamental growth process psychologically of actually associating and identifying 1034 00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:34.239 with a core identity which you basically obviously view yourself 1035 00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:36.159 and this is this is the

only way you can 1036 00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:38.840 reflect on yourself personally, right in a real way. 1037 00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:41.360 For you puberty, you're a different than your company adult. 1038 00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:44.239 And there's like I said, it's well known the MKL 1039 00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:46.960 has done these horrific experiments. And this guy is an 1040 00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:49.280 interesting figure because he hits all the every aspect of 1041 00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:51.000 what we're talking about a high level military what was 1042 00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:52.239 the position military. 1043 00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:54.800 Lieutenant Colonel Mike Luke, you know is basically and. 1044 00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:57.400 Then he's also left the Church of Satan, so anton 1045 00:50:57.440 --> 00:50:59.519 the way were talking about because he said, oh, I 1046 00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:04.079 want to work ship set. 1047 00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:06.119 And what's so fascinating too, is about the members of 1048 00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:09.599 the Temple of set Right, the Setian worshipers, they called them. 1049 00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:13.800 They they I thought it was interesting. They almost deify themselves, right, 1050 00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:17.719 they achieved godhood in their minds, which is insane to me. 1051 00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:20.320 It's it's such an egoic kind of a cult new 1052 00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:23.599 age concept, right, And I think that's so fraught within. 1053 00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:27.800 I think there's underlying very much this this kind of 1054 00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:33.039 underlying esoteric ideological system of control that isn't being very 1055 00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:36.519 much acknowledged by the general public because it's intended not 1056 00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:37.760 to be by design. 1057 00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:40.840 Because I get it. I'm unsure with these cults. Rather 1058 00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:42.639 they really believe in these gods or was part of 1059 00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:45.159 their mind control. But in all these cases they have 1060 00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:47.199 these these cults, you know, you see it. 1061 00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:51.480 Was the cult car there Aber Sachs and that were 1062 00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:55.199 helping kids access exactly which is the god they call 1063 00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:56.480 it like a god of duality. 1064 00:51:56.679 --> 00:51:59.280 But it's evil for your sacrificing kids too. There's all 1065 00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:03.280 these different and cults. You're always connected to these government apparatuses, 1066 00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:05.360 and you know, you guys can decide to make it. 1067 00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:06.920 I'm trying to I'm trying to figure out what to 1068 00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:08.679 make of it. But there's one hundred percent there are 1069 00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:12.840 these connections over and over on these murder torture cases 1070 00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:14.239 connected to governments. 1071 00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:16.119 And courts, and if anyone can explain to me. And 1072 00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:18.760 by the way, I mentioned Dave mcgallan in Program to 1073 00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:22.320 Kill earlier. He's talking about US Navy psychologists claiming they 1074 00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:28.360 legitimately used behavioral modification experimentation on these individuals who were 1075 00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:31.599 enlisted men in the in the you know, army, military, Navy, 1076 00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:35.599 whatever the case may be. And they essentially we were 1077 00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:39.000 experimenting upon them in the Phoenix program in order to 1078 00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:42.079 see exactly how it worked, what worked the best right 1079 00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:45.880 strategically and efficiently and effectively, and then they would would 1080 00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:49.760 utilize that domestically within this clandestine sort of structured framework. 1081 00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:52.039 And I think they brought it home. They brought home 1082 00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:56.360 the techniques. You have another Phoenix program operative who was 1083 00:52:56.480 --> 00:52:59.960 conducting these mind control experimentations, not just Lewis Jollyon was, 1084 00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:03.519 but another guy by the name of Colston Westbrook who 1085 00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:07.519 was a part of the Shalom project. Project Shalom, which 1086 00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:10.440 I told you about in regard to Jonestown, if you remember, 1087 00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:13.199 which is so ridiculous and I won't get off and. 1088 00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:15.840 How it's all. And by the way, people, if you 1089 00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:18.199 have any other leads and stuff, I mean probably saying 1090 00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:20.119 reach out to us. In my way. Obviously, I made 1091 00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:21.960 a tweet about Norman and someone tent me tons of 1092 00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:24.480 good information to go down, Like the guy had clearly 1093 00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:25.960 done a lot of research on it and he seen 1094 00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:27.519 someone mentioned it and it was just like, oh shit, 1095 00:53:27.639 --> 00:53:30.239 just started throwing my stuff at me because it's just like, 1096 00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:32.079 oh hey, someone's mentioning this thing. And he threw a 1097 00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:34.599 lot of like good leads and stuff. So feel free 1098 00:53:34.639 --> 00:53:37.679 to throw leads because we're trying to work this off, 1099 00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:39.760 but we're not telling you we have a clear answer, 1100 00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:42.599 but we can see there's something. And the back to 1101 00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:44.159 the queena real quick before we go back to this 1102 00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:47.639 is he was taking children from the military and doing 1103

00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:51.400 these satanic abuse rituals with and the over evidence is 1104 00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:53.519 so overwhelming. Why didn't you agree with that? Why don't 1105 00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:57.119 you break down that overwhelming Looking into the police reports, its. 1106 00:53:57.239 --> 00:54:00.000 Believe it was the Child Development Care Center, right, technical 1107 00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:04.320 the CDC, but not obviously the the Center for Disease Control. 1108 00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:07.679 It's the it's technically the CDC is the child care 1109 00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:10.920 development center at the Presidio Military Base in San Francisco, 1110 00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:15.480 So that was directly tied into we're talking Prince of 1111 00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:20.159 Darkness was discovered in this insane ritual ritualistic altar that 1112 00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:22.880 one of the military policemen, Ed Albanovski was his name. 1113 00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:27.920 He actually discovered the the ritualistics, you know, ceremonial, uh 1114 00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:31.119 a sort of. I think it was Prince of Darkness 1115 00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:35.320 was graffitied on that area where they had candlewats that had. 1116 00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:37.880 Already place in his house or no, this was actually 1117 00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:38.880 on these. 1118 00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:43.199 Video is big video is a big area, right, there's 1119 00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:46.440 some creepy part interest and if you remember, actually the 1120 00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:49.039 military base itself was even like in the film that 1121 00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:52.679 Hitchcock film Vertigo, which has to do with My Control, 1122 00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:54.440 which is kind of strange that one was. 1123 00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:56.639 A creepy place. It's always got creeped out there, living 1124 00:54:56.679 --> 00:54:59.800 in San Francisco creep vibe. This makes sense now, Yeah, 1125 00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:03.000 And like is it back to the kids into his home? 1126 00:55:03.760 --> 00:55:05.679 These kids, well, I don't know how many kids he views. 1127 00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:06.639 It wasn't like hundreds. 1128 00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:09.599 Oh. I believe that he was in this. 1129 00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:12.000 Particular in all these cases. 1130 00:55:12.199 --> 00:55:14.920 And I think he was helping allowing this to take 1131 00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:17.880 place because you had Grace Tobin, I believe was the 1132 00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:20.679 name of the mother who came forward to begin with. 1133 00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:23.000 We're talking very young children. 1134 00:55:24.639 --> 00:55:28.519 They want to say anything, could say anything exactly. But 1135 00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:31.320 when they did, when they perfectly explained. And also the 1136 00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:34.679 raider's house, he perfectly had that altar with the cameras, 1137 00:55:34.719 -->

00:55:38.199 the fucking exactly what he explained, and his wife, Lilith, 1138 00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:41.639 the Satanic rituals they were filming, the high pretent. It's 1139 00:55:41.639 --> 00:55:43.480 an internal matter as we shut down. 1140 00:55:43.559 --> 00:55:47.320 And the fact that her name, Lilith, high Princess. 1141 00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:52.519 Is like the sacrificial Jewish God, right the battling. 1142 00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:57.400 With Yeah, and that makes all the sense in the world. 1143 00:55:57.400 --> 00:55:59.840 And if if you realize that that that young girl 1144 00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:04.400 who unfortunately took the authorities and the investigators and her 1145 00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:07.960 parents too, they had her, okay, take us to the 1146 00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:10.760 place that you were taking, essentially, and this young girl 1147 00:56:11.559 --> 00:56:14.840 took them off base, off the presidio, no longer at 1148 00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:18.039 the CDC center anymore. And and they go into this 1149 00:56:18.079 --> 00:56:21.719 private community, this neighborhood, which just so happens. She fingers 1150 00:56:21.880 --> 00:56:26.719 and points out directly Michael's home, and she said, then 1151 00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:29.800 she described exactly the abuse that she endured, and one 1152 00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:32.440 of the interesting points to the abuse, and I won't 1153 00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:35.559 get detailed just for the sake of it, obviously, but 1154 00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:38.800 the point was that Michael Aquino and Lilith had actually 1155 00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:41.159 reversed gender roles during the abuse. 1156 00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:44.079 At pattern I've started noticing too. You see the same 1157 00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:46.480 patterns in all these cases. I didn't know that right. 1158 00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:50.960 There, And psychologically, I imagine how confusing that is for 1159 00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:51.719 such a young. 1160 00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:54.360 Child actually abusing these. By the way, it's like dark, 1161 00:56:54.440 --> 00:56:57.480 dark stoff and this guy, Michael Aquino's name pops up 1162 00:56:57.519 --> 00:57:02.159 Frank lots of these cases. It's so show me similarities, 1163 00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:04.280 it's so dark. It's hard to spend too much time 1164 00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:06.559 researching this. I'll do a couple of days, I'll get 1165 00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:08.840 that and I'll step away, like you sent me this 1166 00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:12.400 like a week ago, and I've done way too much research. 1167 00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:13.760 That's why I'm like, we are a couple of reasons, like, 1168 00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:15.639 let's do this, get this done with so I can 1169 00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:17.039 hopefully get this out of my mind. 1170 00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:19.800 Absolutely, And I kind of feel the same way because 1171 00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:24.599 just really being overexposed for I think a consistent amount 1172 00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:27.320 of time is not good for your psyche or for 1173 00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:31.159 your soul, and it has like this just overwhelming kind 1174 00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:32.960 of effect at the end of the day, and you 1175 00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:36.199 won't realize that it's even happening, but you read through 1176 00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:38.519 it and then all of a sudden you're like, man, 1177 00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:41.559 I don't think I can take reading one more sentence flat. 1178 00:57:41.599 --> 00:57:42.840 For a few minutes in a row. You'd send me 1179 00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:44.719 something and open up like midnight, about to go to bed, 1180 00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:47.719 start looking down at and just be like, oh, man, 1181 00:57:48.119 --> 00:57:50.039 And then three four hours later, it's like five in 1182 00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:53.199 the morning, and I'm just like, it's never because my 1183 00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:56.519 mind won't turn off sometimes I'm investigating something. I'm sure 1184 00:57:56.519 --> 00:57:57.280 you've had the same thing. 1185 00:57:57.320 --> 00:57:58.800 Oh, that's exactly what happens to me. 1186 00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:01.400 Yeah, Why buy or sell a gun from a company 1187 00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:03.639 that hates you and your values when you can support 1188 00:58:03.679 --> 00:58:07.199 free speech and the podcast by going to armslist dot 1189 00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:11.440 com to buy, sell trade all firearms and accessories. So 1190 00:58:11.519 --> 00:58:14.000 get the discount. Go to armslist dot com and put 1191 00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:15.760 in promo code fight back, and it will be only 1192 00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:18.880 one dollar the first month. In the age of doxing, hacks, 1193 00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:22.920 and blackmail, everyone knows how important online privacy has become. 1194 00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:26.480 You can protect your privacy online with a VPN. But 1195 00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:29.039 did you know that the most popular VPNs have been 1196 00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:32.360 acquired by Israeli companies with direct ties to the IDF. 1197 00:58:32.840 --> 00:58:36.559 Get real privacy you can trust with vp dot net, 1198 00:58:36.760 --> 00:58:41.199 an independent American VPN that won't route your traffic through Israel. 1199 00:58:41.519 --> 00:58:44.599 Go to vp dot net slash fight back to receive 1200 00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:47.719 a discount, or you can use promo code fight back. 1201 00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:50.920 This will help support my free speech podcast. Everyone is 1202 00:58:50.920 --> 00:58:54.079 talking about peptides and there's a reason why. Personally, I 1203 00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:57.360 believe there's the future of medicine. Unfortunately, it's a largely 1204 00:58:57.480 --> 00:59:01.000 unregulated market and all sources are not equal. Many come 1205 00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:04.199 from India

and China. So I partner with Hanobe Peptides, 1206 00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:08.400 which is American made and independently lab tested. We offer 1207 00:59:08.519 --> 00:59:11.280 hundreds of different peptides, so it's very complex, but my 1208 00:59:11.360 --> 00:59:13.840 favorite is the Wolverine stack. This helped me avoid a 1209 00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:17.519 knee surgery. I also love IGF one for muscle growth 1210 00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:20.119 and recovery. To find out what might be a good 1211 00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:22.719 addition to your health, go to nnobe dot com and 1212 00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:24.840 be sure to use promo code fight back. This will 1213 00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:27.360 give you a discount and help support the podcast. 1214 00:59:27.800 --> 00:59:30.320 And when when you know, I'll get right back to 1215 00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:33.079 John Wayne Gacy, the jc's connection. 1216 00:59:33.159 --> 00:59:36.440 And obviously this season thing interesting here. Let's play play 1217 00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:38.519 them into this because it was talking about how real 1218 00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:40.440 quick we got a side tangent. I think it was 1219 00:59:40.440 --> 00:59:42.559 all the stuff with this Robin Gatsy guy. They just 1220 00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:45.199 were saying how it felt like that's how he got here, 1221 00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:47.719 like it felt like he had mind control over them, 1222 00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:50.559 like you could control them. He again remind you was 1223 00:59:50.599 --> 00:59:53.679 living at the age John Wayne Gacy's house at the murders. 1224 00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:55.920 He jumped up right away and picked up the serial killers. 1225 00:59:55.920 --> 00:59:57.679 And this case has pretty much been a race mystery. 1226 00:59:57.760 --> 00:59:59.159 So let's play this this real quick. 1227 00:59:59.119 --> 01:00:02.119 Fear and partial ah. They pretty much did everything he 1228 01:00:02.199 --> 01:00:04.039 told them to do. Is they wanted to be on 1229 01:00:04.119 --> 01:00:07.639 his side rather than oppose him. Of course, that's not 1230 01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:10.639 to absolve them of their guilt and what soon took place. 1231 01:00:11.079 --> 01:00:13.599 They ultimately made the choice to do what they wanted 1232 01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:16.480 to do, low intellect or not, but it does paint 1233 01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:19.079 a picture that there was one clear ring leader most 1234 01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:23.440 responsible for what happened, and that was Robin. Really, it's 1235 01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:25.559 not that dissimilar to the way of their call. 1236 01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:30.159 Again, you have another across church and the process is 1237 01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:32.559 that the one or the children is that connected to 1238 01:00:32.679 --> 01:00:34.239 the Son of Sam. 1239 01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:37.800 Yes, the processed church is direct. So The Ultimate Evil 1240 01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:40.239 was written by Maury Terry. I believe it's the greatest 1241 01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:45.199 book on the David Biowitz case. It's so incredible, and honestly, 1242 01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:49.239 there's even a community devoted to discrediting more Terry because 1243 01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:51.000 it's such a pivotal evidence. 1244 01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:54.360 And we're doing an interview that's on tomorrow. I haven't 1245 01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:56.119 looked into that because my mind I was betting on 1246 01:00:56.119 --> 01:00:57.920 it if I just got stucked away in this case 1247 01:00:57.960 --> 01:01:00.400 and my mind, but I had. 1248 01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:04.320 We'll briefly get into because there's a Charles Manson connection 1249 01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:06.000 to process as well. 1250 01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:09.679 As sir, and so yeah, we'll cover that, and I'm 1251 01:01:09.719 --> 01:01:11.239 not sure which I'll drop it so that it might 1252 01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:13.480 already be out by the way people, So real quick, 1253 01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:16.119 just back to the Ripper murders for these switch directions, 1254 01:01:16.119 --> 01:01:18.519 it's just basically seems like it was Satanic killings right 1255 01:01:18.559 --> 01:01:20.480 in the height of the Satanic panic, but they've been 1256 01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:22.320 kind of like almost written out of history. 1257 01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:26.960 He has no Wikipedia page, like likely filmed to I 1258 01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:28.840 don't know, there's hard evitage of that, but it just 1259 01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:29.960 seems to fit the pattern. 1260 01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:32.480 It's the same thing that Dean Coral was a part 1261 01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:36.360 of in participating in. It was and you saw it was. 1262 01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:39.199 I believe Henley was the get William Henley, I think 1263 01:01:39.320 --> 01:01:42.840 was the yeah, the right hand man for sort of 1264 01:01:42.920 --> 01:01:46.880 the young helper for Dean Coral. But what what inevitably 1265 01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:51.239 happened is they came forward, right because essentially those helpers 1266 01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:52.119 would always. 1267 01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:54.440 Be recruited by these other people that are higher up. 1268 01:01:54.480 --> 01:01:57.920 They have a system those recruitium. That's saying I think 1269 01:01:57.920 --> 01:02:00.639 this network, these people are all directly tied together through 1270 01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:03.559 this one, through the Norman, and they are all a 1271 01:02:03.599 --> 01:02:07.320 direct line between these serial killers and this completely unusual type. 1272 01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:10.280 It's not a coincidence that all these serial killers and 1273 01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:13.320 exactly when Gaycy stopped, Boom Robin started his killings. 1274 01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:16.199 Right and and my god, in terms of the occult 1275 01:02:16.320

--> 01:02:19.960 ritual scenario in the Ripper murders, that is what I 1276 01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:23.440 thought was so interesting is that you had legitimate sadism 1277 01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:24.800 that was being involved in in. 1278 01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:27.800 The satanic Yeah, it's like that's why again you have 1279 01:02:27.880 --> 01:02:31.079 a cult. And then I don't know, there's not much 1280 01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:33.440 evidence on this, but the government ties would really be 1281 01:02:33.519 --> 01:02:35.119 the main one. I'd see you would be one, well, 1282 01:02:35.159 --> 01:02:36.599 one of the guest things. We're getting covered up on 1283 01:02:36.599 --> 01:02:38.519 the murder once again, see the same pattern of loss 1284 01:02:38.519 --> 01:02:42.159 information leads not being followed up. But him part of that, 1285 01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:46.519 the nod of John Wayne Gacy, which was the PDM Constructions, 1286 01:02:46.559 --> 01:02:50.199 which was part of that, the Norman Pascue operations. 1287 01:02:50.280 --> 01:02:54.079 So it's so ridiculous that he's directly employed by John 1288 01:02:54.119 --> 01:02:58.119 Wayne Gacy at PDM Contractors, and just just knowing that 1289 01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:02.800 who who earth is aware of the fact that you 1290 01:03:02.920 --> 01:03:07.000 have this high profile group of serial killers and pedophiles 1291 01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:09.599 all hanging out and living at the same flophouse. 1292 01:03:09.800 --> 01:03:10.480 I never heard it. 1293 01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:13.960 And yet you would think the level of prominence of 1294 01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:16.800 a John Wayne Gacy right that this would be more 1295 01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:18.360 deliberately disconnected. 1296 01:03:18.440 --> 01:03:20.360 You sa, oh, he's just a lone actor and you 1297 01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:23.000 have this guy, another guy with a twenty confirmed kill, 1298 01:03:23.039 --> 01:03:25.159 so you can't deny that one. Clearly those other guys 1299 01:03:25.159 --> 01:03:27.159 were serial killers in his operation as well. But you 1300 01:03:27.199 --> 01:03:29.599 don't have conditions when you have convictions. People can't deny it. 1301 01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:32.400 Right now, the past guy has one one convicted murder 1302 01:03:32.400 --> 01:03:34.719 but for sure he was killing those people that were 1303 01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:37.840 to testify against Norman or doing it with mafia, yeah, 1304 01:03:38.760 --> 01:03:41.280 connections pointing him to it. That's why we're talking. 1305 01:03:41.519 --> 01:03:44.880 Just before the key witness set to testify against John 1306 01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:50.039 David Norman is murdered and his throat slit by who 1307 01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:53.400 was who were they attempting to identify Phil Pasky fit 1308 01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:56.360 the exact same profile fit you know, in every way, 1309 01:03:56.679 --> 01:04:00.480 and it seems like that was effectively what did take place, 1310 01:04:00.639 --> 01:04:04.599 and it was in reality it was covered up to overall. 1311 01:04:04.800 --> 01:04:09.639 Just I think they intend on the network itself never 1312 01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:13.320 being exposed is the main obvious points exactly. 1313 01:04:13.320 --> 01:04:15.320 And he was killed in eighty six. It's like to 1314 01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:17.880 finish to close out the operation because he was like 1315 01:04:18.239 --> 01:04:21.000 one of the high level guys, him and Norman. These 1316 01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:22.960 guys are running operation, so like, oh, time to take 1317 01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:23.320 him out. 1318 01:04:23.440 --> 01:04:26.239 And for John Wayne Gacy to have actually told some 1319 01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:29.599 of the younger victims allegedly he had actually told some 1320 01:04:29.639 --> 01:04:31.519 of the young boys who had even been around the 1321 01:04:31.559 --> 01:04:34.320 area that had come into contact with them and knew 1322 01:04:34.360 --> 01:04:37.360 the victims as well, that he actually and there was 1323 01:04:37.400 --> 01:04:41.280 a telephone call. I believe that an individual went on 1324 01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:43.800 the record with the authorities telling them, and it was 1325 01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:46.079 a female, I believe it was, And she said that 1326 01:04:46.159 --> 01:04:48.960 John Wayne Gacy explained to her and a few of 1327 01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:52.800 the other young people that he was a hit man 1328 01:04:52.880 --> 01:04:54.960 for the mob, right, and so. 1329 01:04:55.119 --> 01:04:57.599 That would make sense they would take a hit man. No, 1330 01:04:57.719 --> 01:04:59.360 he's already killing people with them like they would to 1331 01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:02.039 make these murders little more sadistic. We're going to bring 1332 01:05:02.119 --> 01:05:04.880 these people in, We're going to film them. He straight 1333 01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:07.679 up said they were making snuff films. The Norman named 1334 01:05:07.719 --> 01:05:08.239 him by name. 1335 01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:13.360 He said that multiple victims that were obviously attributed to 1336 01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:16.840 him John Wayne Gacy, were actually murdered in snuff films 1337 01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:18.559 by Phil Pasky and John David Nola. 1338 01:05:18.599 --> 01:05:20.119 And he was out of state when this happened. But 1339 01:05:20.159 --> 01:05:23.199 the detectives came in shut this down, made it alone. 1340 01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:24.880 And I don't know how much texts for pressure to 1341 01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:26.840 if they wanted to wrap before. I thought like, oh, 1342 01:05:26.920 --> 01:05:28.480 maybe they just wanted to wrap it up, But there's 1343 01:05:28.519 --> 01:05:33.519 too much evidence connecting. Norman asking the other people, actually, 1344 01:05:33.559 --> 01:05:35.760 he tortured one guy, then he decided to let him go, 1345

01:05:36.519 --> 01:05:38.239 and then he said there's other people at the house. 1346 01:05:38.519 --> 01:05:40.599 The cops ignored. That guy's like when he went to 1347 01:05:40.639 --> 01:05:42.920 the police. Another guy escaped went to the police, it 1348 01:05:42.960 --> 01:05:46.000 was ignored. It's like clearly there was like people above 1349 01:05:46.039 --> 01:05:46.960 this shutting it down. 1350 01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:49.159 I mean, Dean Corl the guy had to kill him, 1351 01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:53.159 you know what I mean, Like legitimately they were being 1352 01:05:53.199 --> 01:05:56.760 tortured to death and he felt they felt only way out. 1353 01:05:56.880 --> 01:05:59.000 The guy, Yeah, exactly, he was not not wanting to 1354 01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:02.280 do it, but he was into d I mean, its 1355 01:06:02.559 --> 01:06:04.599 definitely a little bit involved, you know, which is why 1356 01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:07.000 he's rightfully in jail. But I think also the other 1357 01:06:07.039 --> 01:06:10.599 guy was way worse and he decided to take him out. Absolutely, 1358 01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:13.039 And again this Dean Carroll was saying, yeah, I worked 1359 01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:16.280 for this operation mafia. Oh also sells drugs. And he 1360 01:06:16.280 --> 01:06:18.360 says that, yeah, you know, I'm part of this organization. 1361 01:06:18.480 --> 01:06:21.840 We we have white slavery, we sell young men, people 1362 01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:23.840 can buy them. And where do you say? It was 1363 01:06:23.880 --> 01:06:25.800 exactly where Norman operated. 1364 01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:30.599 And the enterprise is never limited in scope to just 1365 01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:36.480 snuff for child pornography, right like it always is drug trafficking, black. 1366 01:06:36.199 --> 01:06:39.119 Man, black money. Yeah, seems like it's this big money 1367 01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:41.960 work of all of it. That's what these shell companies, 1368 01:06:42.119 --> 01:06:45.280 maybe Monday laundering. Like I really tried finding financial records 1369 01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:47.840 on the Gazy operation. It just seems like they're either 1370 01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:49.320 raised or it can't be found. 1371 01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:51.840 It's and by the way, it's like when when you 1372 01:06:52.079 --> 01:06:55.719 notice and I found this incredible connection, as I mentioned earlier, right, 1373 01:06:55.840 --> 01:06:59.480 black mouth files found in Gaycy's home. So you had 1374 01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:03.079 this is according to Tracy Olman all Right, who is 1375 01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:05.719 an investigator who wrote a book about this specifically, but 1376 01:07:05.800 --> 01:07:10.199 she discovered through Gaysey's arrest these important details that were 1377 01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:13.599 never publicized. So I looked into this four decades after 1378 01:07:13.639 --> 01:07:18.079 the actual case. Right, you have a household, a household 1379 01:07:18.119 --> 01:07:22.920 inventory of Gaysey and his lawyers actually filed originally in 1380 01:07:22.960 --> 01:07:27.320 the throughout the case itself, in the trial, filed in 1381 01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:30.760 the Cook County courthouse. And so according to this legal document, right, 1382 01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:34.559 which I did actually attempt to, you know, look at 1383 01:07:34.719 --> 01:07:39.000 for myself and confirm you have Gaysey having a whole 1384 01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:43.480 set of blackmail files on professional athletes. Oh shit, politicians 1385 01:07:43.480 --> 01:07:46.760 and celebrities. Heard that none of these files were ever 1386 01:07:46.800 --> 01:07:50.800 officially entered into evidence. And other items in the Gaycy's 1387 01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:55.559 household inventory are film cameras, photo cameras, eight millimeter editing 1388 01:07:55.639 --> 01:07:57.039 deck and viewing. 1389 01:07:56.719 --> 01:08:00.679 Screen, so they never like mentioned this even became media never, 1390 01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:02.800 So okay, it makes sense. He was a mafia guy, 1391 01:08:02.960 --> 01:08:05.360 a hit man. Then they pushed him like, hey, we're 1392 01:08:05.400 --> 01:08:08.840 gonna take it a little darker. Right when the passing 1393 01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:11.159 guy came, that's when the murder's up, you know. And 1394 01:08:11.239 --> 01:08:13.000 he did admit to killing people, so he is a 1395 01:08:13.039 --> 01:08:15.639 sick monster. He's like, he wasn't the head of this. 1396 01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:17.960 But then it was like always blame, I am shut. 1397 01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:20.600 It down right and just knowing that, by the way, 1398 01:08:20.680 --> 01:08:23.520 eight millimeter film strips, like have you ever seen the 1399 01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:27.439 Nicholas Cage movie from nineteen ninety eight by eight milimeter? 1400 01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:31.640 So I had no idea what I was getting myself into. 1401 01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:33.359 I'm not gonna watch it for a minute. You probably 1402 01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:36.079 last week stuff. So I want to stay away from 1403 01:08:36.119 --> 01:08:36.560 dark South. 1404 01:08:37.600 --> 01:08:41.159 It's a good idea cleanse your palate because that movie 1405 01:08:41.399 --> 01:08:44.159 will send you back into darkness. You will descend back 1406 01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:48.800 these stuff films. So Nicholas Cage's characters private investigator. He 1407 01:08:48.800 --> 01:08:53.279 gets hired by this old money aristocratic family. Right, this 1408 01:08:53.359 --> 01:08:56.439 widow who her husband, the patriarch of the family, had 1409 01:08:56.479 --> 01:08:59.159 just died. Right, he's like this multi millionaire. And I'll 1410 01:08:59.199 --> 01:09:02.319 just briefly kind of just because I think it's valuable 1411 01:09:02.319 --> 01:09:05.640 as a concept, right. And again, pop culture references are 1412 01:09:05.640 -->

01:09:08.680 so crucial for the general public to become willing to 1413 01:09:08.680 --> 01:09:12.399 objectively consider these things exactly. And so eight millimeter was 1414 01:09:12.439 --> 01:09:16.039 so fascinating because apparently I didn't realize this, but you know, 1415 01:09:16.119 --> 01:09:19.840 with Wayne Williams Atlanta child murders, he was I believe 1416 01:09:19.880 --> 01:09:23.640 he was recruiting and had a talent recruitment talent spotting 1417 01:09:23.760 --> 01:09:26.640 company known as the Gemini Project, right, that's what he 1418 01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:30.399 called it. He said he could turn He was basically 1419 01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:33.479 promoting this to young black boys, and he was claiming 1420 01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:35.720 that he could make them into the next Michael Jackson. 1421 01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:40.279 And he was actually providing Michael Thoebs, who has now 1422 01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:44.760 been exposed as a child pornography kingpin, like a producer 1423 01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:47.960 for child pornography and essentially a kingpin in Atlanta at 1424 01:09:47.960 --> 01:09:53.119 the time, and the studio that Wayne Williams would take 1425 01:09:53.239 --> 01:09:56.000 the children from the Gemini Project that he would recruit, 1426 01:09:56.399 --> 01:09:58.880 he would take them to a studio owned by Michael Thoebs, 1427 01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:02.439 who was a child nography kingpin. And so when he 1428 01:10:02.479 --> 01:10:07.640 got Basically, when these cases were going public, you have 1429 01:10:08.479 --> 01:10:11.039 witnesses who claim they saw Wayne Williams and his father 1430 01:10:11.079 --> 01:10:13.359 are out there burning photographic negatives. 1431 01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:16.159 They've burned some snuff films. Probably how many was he 1432 01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:17.960 convicted of killing. I'm not sure, but a lot he. 1433 01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:20.439 Was killing these wayn Williams. I believe it was twenty nine. 1434 01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:23.079 It was definitely was what earlier said. He basically hinted 1435 01:10:23.119 --> 01:10:25.720 he was AIA. I said, yeah, no, he's basically he 1436 01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:28.279 confessed it in a letter, but and then was asked 1437 01:10:28.279 --> 01:10:30.319 about it in a prison interview, right, and he kind 1438 01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:31.479 of plays coy, but. 1439 01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:34.600 Definitely seems like it was h we'll probably reaction it later. 1440 01:10:35.399 --> 01:10:37.680 It either, but it seems like I haven't looked that 1441 01:10:37.720 --> 01:10:39.760 deep into that case, but it just seems that these 1442 01:10:39.800 --> 01:10:42.359 same patterns. It's just it's I think hard for a 1443 01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:46.279 normal mind to grasp that anyone could do this type 1444 01:10:46.319 --> 01:10:46.920 of dark stuff. 1445 01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:47.199 I know. 1446 01:10:47.279 --> 01:10:49.359 So it's just almost like you just, oh, that's not possible, 1447 01:10:49.439 --> 01:10:51.920 that's not possible. But when you start seeing like, okay, 1448 01:10:51.960 --> 01:10:54.239 they take these hitmen originally or find people from prison 1449 01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:57.760 that are already dark, even like the guy Carrol, he 1450 01:10:57.800 --> 01:10:59.560 asked the kidd and they like, would you kill someone 1451 01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:01.720 in a rob refers like that? They started like leading 1452 01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:04.079 them to see what they'll do with them, right, and 1453 01:11:04.159 --> 01:11:06.359 like the other guy said, like, well I had mind 1454 01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:09.760 control on them. Could that been techniques he learned in 1455 01:11:10.439 --> 01:11:14.079 ink Ultra? Again, you have Charles Manson. Not to get 1456 01:11:14.119 --> 01:11:15.760 too off on that, but I think it's interesting that 1457 01:11:15.800 --> 01:11:19.159 the house they target with Manson was a Roman Planski 1458 01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:21.520 whose movie before do you know he just made before 1459 01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:25.159 it Rosemary's Baby. Dude, that's right, It's like. 1460 01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:29.039 It's crazier, which is Sir Han was at a dinner 1461 01:11:29.119 --> 01:11:33.079 party the night before RFK was assassinated. 1462 01:11:33.279 --> 01:11:35.880 This is the assassin of RFK, who they said was 1463 01:11:35.880 --> 01:11:38.520 a Palestinian who's like carrying a newspaper about the Palestine, 1464 01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:40.760 everything about it. 1465 01:11:41.319 --> 01:11:44.079 So we'll get into that later because it's honestly, it 1466 01:11:44.359 --> 01:11:47.880 doesn't really apply directly as much as it's interesting. But 1467 01:11:48.039 --> 01:11:52.560 I do think that just realizing the level of promise 1468 01:11:52.600 --> 01:11:57.000 in terms of this child pornography distribution process, I think 1469 01:11:57.239 --> 01:12:02.039 it has to be just extraordinary, really profitable, As terrible 1470 01:12:02.039 --> 01:12:02.640 as that sounds. 1471 01:12:02.840 --> 01:12:05.279 Several of these busts were large. There was Norman there 1472 01:12:05.319 --> 01:12:08.199 was the bust of the guy that had eleven pictures 1473 01:12:08.239 --> 01:12:10.199 of the people that had been killed by the Carol 1474 01:12:10.279 --> 01:12:12.359 That one hundred percent proves it exactly, but they just 1475 01:12:12.399 --> 01:12:14.760 shut it down because they don't want that angle out there, 1476 01:12:14.800 --> 01:12:16.520 so they shut these down. If you have, you know, 1477 01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:19.479 eleven kids that were brutally murdered by the serial killer, 1478 01:12:20.359 --> 01:12:23.399 so obviously, well there's two possible extimations after when he 1479 01:12:23.399 --> 01:12:25.600 was killing we took the most likely or they were 1480 01:12:25.640 --> 01:12:28.000 already in these

networks and they were sent to him. 1481 01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:30.199 Yeah, exactly, and it was one of the two, one 1482 01:12:30.199 --> 01:12:34.479 of the two. And that's just to me, I think realizing. 1483 01:12:34.520 --> 01:12:39.199 And again the eight millimeter photograph basically these eight millimeter strips, right, 1484 01:12:39.199 --> 01:12:42.079 photographic strips like this is how they can distribute the 1485 01:12:42.119 --> 01:12:46.920 child pornography because apparently if it's undeveloped in the eight 1486 01:12:46.960 --> 01:12:50.920 milimeter strip then they can legally technically it's a loophole 1487 01:12:51.199 --> 01:12:52.960 to distribute through the mail service. 1488 01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:55.159 So that's why he was doing this. He had these 1489 01:12:55.199 --> 01:12:58.079 male catalogs. There's so much to cover, that's why it's 1490 01:12:58.119 --> 01:12:59.560 like hard. But we didn't get that deep into the 1491 01:12:59.560 --> 01:13:02.119 whole autust foundation that the Norman epasci Ran which kept 1492 01:13:02.199 --> 01:13:04.399 running new was in prison they had they were literally 1493 01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:06.880 selling these children guides where you could like buy them, 1494 01:13:06.920 --> 01:13:09.319 he said, one day, two day, three days, and I'm 1495 01:13:09.439 --> 01:13:12.520 sure ultimately if you wanted to actually buy them for 1496 01:13:12.600 --> 01:13:14.000 whatever could kill them or something. 1497 01:13:14.039 --> 01:13:15.800 Oh yeah, no, there there was a connection to the 1498 01:13:15.800 --> 01:13:21.680 Hermes publication that the Odyssey Foundation was promoting. In that publication, right, 1499 01:13:21.720 --> 01:13:25.960 they were promoting their services. So there was a subscription 1500 01:13:26.079 --> 01:13:29.800 model for pedophiles in the Hermes publication and they were 1501 01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:33.680 even offering As I mentioned before, the financier of Hermes 1502 01:13:33.960 --> 01:13:36.279 was technically a man by the name of Francis Sheldon, 1503 01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:39.680 and he's from again. He disappeared to the Netherlands last 1504 01:13:39.800 --> 01:13:43.760 known took a private jet and he's gone. And basically 1505 01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:47.000 that was after all this went public during the North 1506 01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:50.239 Fox Island affair where you had this massive scandal with 1507 01:13:50.520 --> 01:13:53.520 again the paperboy fetish is connected in with Johnny. 1508 01:13:53.159 --> 01:13:56.479 Gosh, Johnny got that's actually yeah, actually, there's two more 1509 01:13:56.479 --> 01:13:57.760 things I want to talk about. That's could be one of them. 1510 01:13:57.760 --> 01:14:00.439 Brain scandle real quick. Let's hit before hit and then 1511 01:14:00.439 --> 01:14:02.279 we can kind of go any random things. Let's go 1512 01:14:02.359 --> 01:14:06.399 real quick, because you told something so fascinating. Fucking

Jack Ruby. 1513 01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:09.720 Oh my god, there's fucking Jack Ruby is the guy 1514 01:14:09.760 --> 01:14:12.520 who killed Oswald. He was living in a house that 1515 01:14:12.600 --> 01:14:15.640 was being paid for by David Norman, the head of 1516 01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:19.000 this black thing. So that makes it to me because 1517 01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:21.039 he was a mafia guy that's well known, you know, 1518 01:14:21.119 --> 01:14:23.600 connect to the Jewish town of mafia. That makes look 1519 01:14:23.640 --> 01:14:25.960 like there's a very likely potential he may have been 1520 01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:29.960 evolved in this pedophilia ring of maybe kidnapping kids. Maybe again, 1521 01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:33.079 this is all speculation, but that does show that's very likely. 1522 01:14:33.319 --> 01:14:35.760 I could also explain a motive Black Melopers. He could 1523 01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:38.079 have been black Moto something horrific. They're like, you have 1524 01:14:38.119 --> 01:14:39.359 to go kill osw Oswald. 1525 01:14:39.479 --> 01:14:43.960 And that's what, honestly I believe. In terms of Jack Ruby, 1526 01:14:44.239 --> 01:14:48.000 it's so strange because he clearly win it. Now it's 1527 01:14:48.039 --> 01:14:51.680 it's interesting because they knew that the if you remember 1528 01:14:51.760 --> 01:14:55.000 the Dallas cops, like they actually knew Jack Ruby right there. 1529 01:14:55.199 --> 01:14:57.479 So there he was a mafia guy who were to 1530 01:14:57.520 --> 01:15:00.000 strip clubs. He'd have targets to vulnable people. 1531 01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:03.560 William Murchison Junior and William Murchison Senior. I believe the 1532 01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:08.079 senior was actually the owner of the Dallas Cowboys. I 1533 01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:09.760 think it was maybe it was the Cleveland Browns at 1534 01:15:09.800 --> 01:15:11.960 the time. I'm trying to remember now, but he owned 1535 01:15:12.279 --> 01:15:15.920 a massive NFL sports team basically, And the point was 1536 01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:19.840 is that they hosted dinner parties the night before JFK's 1537 01:15:19.840 --> 01:15:26.600 assassination in Dallas. Every usual suspect was present at these 1538 01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:31.600 two parties. Right, you have Lyndon Johnson, You have Officer J. D. Tippett, 1539 01:15:31.600 --> 01:15:34.079 who was shot and killed that they thought that they 1540 01:15:34.159 --> 01:15:37.319 claimed Oswald killed on the way to the most ridiculous 1541 01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:40.720 cinematic film that he would go and be arrested in. 1542 01:15:40.840 --> 01:15:40.960 Right. 1543 01:15:41.239 --> 01:15:43.079 I think it was War as Hell was the name 1544 01:15:43.119 --> 01:15:45.640 of the movie, which I thought interesting the name of 1545 01:15:45.680 --> 01:15:48.520 the film, because obviously Lyndon Johnson turned to the generals 1546 01:15:48.520 --> 01:15:50.279 and said, you guys can have your ward

now. 1547 01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:55.119 After JFK was JFK was, Johnson was terrible. He stepped in. 1548 01:15:55.199 --> 01:15:57.239 It's just this, you know, they needed to clean up 1549 01:15:57.239 --> 01:15:58.800 the whole. We're not can get in because too company 1550 01:15:58.800 --> 01:16:01.000 of the whole Oswald they had to get rid of Oswalt. 1551 01:16:01.079 --> 01:16:03.960 So boom, you take this guy. He's directly in the 1552 01:16:04.079 --> 01:16:06.359 same network. And it gets odd. You know, when he 1553 01:16:06.399 --> 01:16:08.800 was in prison, they're interviewing him. At one point he 1554 01:16:08.840 --> 01:16:11.000 starts basically because the whole story was he was such 1555 01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:13.239 a Kennedy fan, and he's like, I wasn't even at 1556 01:16:13.239 --> 01:16:15.479 the prey, I didn't even vote, you know, he started 1557 01:16:15.479 --> 01:16:17.960 just going off. Did changed the subject, but he started 1558 01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:20.520 being like, I don't witness in a tangent like real 1559 01:16:20.600 --> 01:16:22.720 quick that that was all bullshit. Started saying that, and 1560 01:16:22.800 --> 01:16:25.880 they stopped it, and then good old Jolly West MK 1561 01:16:26.039 --> 01:16:29.600 here's your direct mk ultrick connection. Yeah, Jolly West was 1562 01:16:29.640 --> 01:16:32.279 one of the probably the number two men in mk ultrack. 1563 01:16:32.279 --> 01:16:34.359 He very happened Mkltruck wasn't the very boss, but he 1564 01:16:34.439 --> 01:16:36.960 seemed to be. He'd wrote a letter saying he'd had 1565 01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:40.000 successfully pulled out memories. He's connected to so many of 1566 01:16:40.039 --> 01:16:44.159 these cases like Manson. For whatever reason, he really demanded 1567 01:16:44.159 --> 01:16:46.880 that he wanted to see Jack Ruby after he was 1568 01:16:46.920 --> 01:16:48.880 in prison. I think initially Judge didn't want to, but 1569 01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:52.119 he was just so persistent. Eventually he got to see Ruby. 1570 01:16:52.319 --> 01:16:55.840 After that, Ruby was just this mumbling, like making no more. 1571 01:16:55.760 --> 01:16:58.560 Sense, a psychotic break than he couldn't return from. 1572 01:16:58.399 --> 01:17:01.760 The second he met West. You know that he needs it. 1573 01:17:01.920 --> 01:17:07.159 He happens to be Jewish member. I remember, right, know that. 1574 01:17:07.279 --> 01:17:09.560 Yeah, Jack Ruby's about to set the testify. He set 1575 01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:11.279 to testify and he claims he's going to blow the 1576 01:17:11.279 --> 01:17:14.640 lid off from what actually happened, and right in terms 1577 01:17:14.640 --> 01:17:20.319 of why he shot Lee Harvey Oswald and uh instantly right, 1578 01:17:20.399 --> 01:17:23.520 he uh has the psychotic break he couldn't return from 1579 01:17:23.560 --> 01:17:26.359 back en he guys fast acting cancer just after that. 1580 01:17:26.760 --> 01:17:28.319 Some weird

turbo cancer. 1581 01:17:28.039 --> 01:17:31.560 Yes, which I think was obviously I would think. 1582 01:17:31.479 --> 01:17:35.159 Yeah, most likely they probably because he was in solitary confinement. 1583 01:17:35.159 --> 01:17:36.560 It was hard to kill in the prison, right by 1584 01:17:36.600 --> 01:17:38.159 some of these guys they have killed in prison, but 1585 01:17:38.159 --> 01:17:40.640 it was probably hard to have him killed. So Jolly 1586 01:17:40.720 --> 01:17:43.920 West demanded that he meet him. They pulled some strings 1587 01:17:43.920 --> 01:17:46.520 because the judge didn't want to allow that meeting, like 1588 01:17:46.520 --> 01:17:48.439 why would have this guy? But he just kept demanding 1589 01:17:48.760 --> 01:17:51.600 and Jolly West look him up. People, He has so many. 1590 01:17:51.520 --> 01:17:54.920 Like it's sod. The Jimmy Shaver cases is a terrible one. 1591 01:17:55.119 --> 01:17:56.840 The one of the guy that murdered that. 1592 01:17:56.840 --> 01:18:00.199 Little child, Yeah, and was in a trance when they Yeah, 1593 01:18:00.479 --> 01:18:02.760 he didn't even recognize his own wife and kids. 1594 01:18:03.039 --> 01:18:05.159 He really was in a trance. It's just a dark 1595 01:18:05.239 --> 01:18:07.159 I think this Jolly West put this guy in a 1596 01:18:07.199 --> 01:18:09.119 trance experiment. He went and killed some kid. 1597 01:18:09.039 --> 01:18:11.359 And that's what they were like, Oh my god, it's 1598 01:18:11.399 --> 01:18:13.960 just like just to wake up, he told you and 1599 01:18:14.239 --> 01:18:17.439 done something like this. Like yeah, it's something that I 1600 01:18:17.479 --> 01:18:22.840 couldn't honestly compartment like conceptualize for myself. But I really 1601 01:18:22.880 --> 01:18:26.560 think knowing the just the level of connections that Jolly 1602 01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:29.199 West really does have, like it's it's absurd. 1603 01:18:29.359 --> 01:18:31.960 He's officially a high ranking member. There's k Culture, which 1604 01:18:31.960 --> 01:18:35.279 is official government program. They found they destroyed the records, 1605 01:18:35.319 --> 01:18:37.359 but they found the basic the finances of it, so 1606 01:18:37.359 --> 01:18:38.920 we know it's really we know pieces of it. 1607 01:18:39.439 --> 01:18:42.079 Yes, his uc LA archive as well, which is you know, 1608 01:18:42.239 --> 01:18:44.760 very interesting and telling and revealing it. I believe he 1609 01:18:44.920 --> 01:18:48.880 was involved in in the Patricia Hurst, that Patty. 1610 01:18:48.680 --> 01:18:51.960 Hurst was in control, that. 1611 01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:55.239 He injected himself into the trial and he yeah, and 1612 01:18:55.239 --> 01:18:55.960 and by the way. 1613 01:18:55.920 --> 01:18:57.760 He was involved with Charles Man say, there's lots evidence 1614 01:18:57.760 --> 01:18:58.479 playing towards that I. 1615 01:18:58.439 --> 01:19:02.960 Hate Ashbury Free Medical Clinic. He one was involved with Charles. 1616 01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:05.039 Ghosing people with acid. He was they had this free 1617 01:19:05.079 --> 01:19:07.279 clinic that they were using for the operation. 1618 01:19:07.560 --> 01:19:09.000 I think it was Cole Street. It was like a 1619 01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:11.720 block away on far at all from hate Ashbury. And 1620 01:19:11.840 --> 01:19:15.279 basically you had a local chapter of the Processed Church 1621 01:19:15.319 --> 01:19:18.000 of the Final Judgment that would introduce themselves to one 1622 01:19:18.079 --> 01:19:20.920 Charles Manson while he's at the Haye Ashbury receiving his 1623 01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:27.159 behavioral modification experimentation. And so it's whenever you realize that 1624 01:19:27.760 --> 01:19:31.840 essentially meant when whenever it comes to Jolly West specifically, 1625 01:19:32.439 --> 01:19:35.479 like it's it's really something to behold, right, you have 1626 01:19:35.840 --> 01:19:39.159 I mentioned to you before. William Holsinger is the basically 1627 01:19:39.199 --> 01:19:43.199 he was the aid to Congressman Leo Ryan, who was 1628 01:19:43.239 --> 01:19:46.479 a vicious watchdog for the CIA. It was awesome, honestly, 1629 01:19:46.520 --> 01:19:48.640 it was one of the last remaining congressmen that you 1630 01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:51.960 can point to means kind of a radical congressman. He's 1631 01:19:52.039 --> 01:19:57.159 like going under cover and inserting himself into San Quentin, 1632 01:19:57.279 --> 01:19:59.399 you know, to see how the guards are effectively treating 1633 01:19:59.399 --> 01:20:02.199 the mates. Things of that nature. He's going down to 1634 01:20:02.279 --> 01:20:05.720 Langley in Virginia and he's like telling the CIA show 1635 01:20:05.800 --> 01:20:07.439 me the documents, showed me the files like that. That 1636 01:20:07.560 --> 01:20:09.359 was the kind of guy he was. He introduced an 1637 01:20:09.399 --> 01:20:12.000 amendment called the he Was Ryan Amendment. I believe it 1638 01:20:12.039 --> 01:20:15.960 was this was going to cause all this red tape 1639 01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:20.600 for the intelligence appreas the CIA would have been required 1640 01:20:20.920 --> 01:20:23.600 to effectively brief Congress if they wanted to implement a 1641 01:20:23.640 --> 01:20:27.439 covert operation. And so this was not going to you know, 1642 01:20:27.600 --> 01:20:30.800 work in terms of this did not settle well with 1643 01:20:31.039 --> 01:20:33.960 the CIA, and you know, let's just say the prominent 1644 01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:38.199 figures behind the scenes. And so what effectively did happen 1645 01:20:38.600 --> 01:20:41.960 is that I believe Congressman Leo Ryan was lured down 1646 01:20:41.960 --> 01:20:47.199 to Guyana in Jonestown knowing it, Oh my god, murdered 1647 01:20:47.239 --> 01:20:49.079 on airstrip. 1648 01:20:49.119 --> 01:20:50.840 They say that a thousand people killed themselves and a 1649 01:20:50.880 -->

01:20:53.680 congressman was murdered down there, so he was oh my god. 1650 01:20:53.800 --> 01:20:58.279 Yeah, and revolutionary mass suicide, no way, in my opinion. 1651 01:20:58.359 --> 01:21:00.199 And they were they were even they called them the 1652 01:21:00.199 --> 01:21:05.079 Red Brigade. The basically you had these, uh, these armed 1653 01:21:05.079 --> 01:21:06.800 guards that were forced. 1654 01:21:06.640 --> 01:21:08.399 People drink the kool aid, like the old saying, don't 1655 01:21:08.439 --> 01:21:11.199 drink the kol aid that comes from Jonestown with drinking 1656 01:21:11.239 --> 01:21:14.960 the poison kool aid. With Senator ever got killed down there, 1657 01:21:14.960 --> 01:21:16.119 I had no idea it. 1658 01:21:16.079 --> 01:21:17.279 Was Congressman Leal Ryan. 1659 01:21:17.439 --> 01:21:19.960 He said, there's just so many crazy connections. 1660 01:21:20.520 --> 01:21:24.439 But his aide, William Holsinger, he wrote, Uh. He basically 1661 01:21:24.479 --> 01:21:27.439 wrote and pinned an essay just so he got a call. 1662 01:21:27.520 --> 01:21:30.399 By the way, before it was made public that Congressman 1663 01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:33.800 le O Ryan was killed and he had gone down 1664 01:21:33.840 --> 01:21:37.119 there because the Concerned Relatives Committee or basically this UH, 1665 01:21:37.439 --> 01:21:41.359 this group had had basically gathered and founded in order 1666 01:21:41.399 --> 01:21:45.159 to draw attention, UH, to have their family members and 1667 01:21:45.199 --> 01:21:47.560 people you know that were still members of the People's 1668 01:21:47.560 --> 01:21:52.399 Temple Agricultural Project in Guyana, to have an actual like 1669 01:21:52.640 --> 01:21:57.399 task force or assembled group with legitimate authority to go 1670 01:21:57.439 --> 01:21:59.720 down and check on their well being because they weren't 1671 01:21:59.720 --> 01:22:04.439 hearing anything about I mean, honestly, they took a test 1672 01:22:04.479 --> 01:22:08.199 group and they put them in the remote Guyanese jungle 1673 01:22:08.640 --> 01:22:10.399 and then just they said, a state of the art 1674 01:22:10.439 --> 01:22:13.439 scientific medical facility was there. Long before, he was. 1675 01:22:13.439 --> 01:22:16.239 Also heavily involved in the political machine. He ran through 1676 01:22:16.319 --> 01:22:19.560 voter fraud. They changed elections in San Francisco, Like he 1677 01:22:19.640 --> 01:22:24.119 completely was all of this political apparatus. Wait real quick, 1678 01:22:24.119 --> 01:22:26.880 where did you find the document with the Norman and 1679 01:22:27.079 --> 01:22:31.199 Ruby connection. Oh yeah, that's really important, right, because that's 1680 01:22:31.239 --> 01:22:33.239 a connection that's very important that I was unable to find. 1681 01:22:33.319 --> 01:22:33.920 So where did you. 1682 01:22:33.880 --> 01:22:38.840 Someone basically that was in the actual JFK Houselick minie 1683 01:22:38.840 --> 01:22:42.239 on assassin Now on the JFK assassination that those files 1684 01:22:42.239 --> 01:22:47.560 that we were made public effectively, you know, essentially exposed 1685 01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:51.239 the fact that when Jack Ruby went to Dallas, right, 1686 01:22:51.399 --> 01:22:53.880 And I want to get this right because the craziest 1687 01:22:53.920 --> 01:22:54.159 thing on. 1688 01:22:54.119 --> 01:22:56.479 The screen or something, because I again I couldn't find 1689 01:22:56.520 --> 01:22:58.479 that anywhere the stuff. They don't make it easy to 1690 01:22:58.479 --> 01:22:59.520 find these connections. 1691 01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:02.399 Right now, we know Jack Ruby rins an apartment from 1692 01:23:02.399 --> 01:23:04.720 Norman and Dallas in the early sixties. But here's the 1693 01:23:04.760 --> 01:23:06.039 part that I see. 1694 01:23:06.279 --> 01:23:08.720 You're just such a big piece of this puzzle because 1695 01:23:09.079 --> 01:23:13.000 we explained a motivation. He's involved with kidnapping kids, hopefully 1696 01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:14.800 not killing him, but who knows. We don't really know 1697 01:23:14.840 --> 01:23:17.039 what if he's involved with this Norman guy, We don't 1698 01:23:17.079 --> 01:23:18.920 know exact dark dark stuff. 1699 01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:21.840 It really is. But now here is a direct reference 1700 01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:26.399 in blue. Here's that's highlighted, and it basically puts on 1701 01:23:26.439 --> 01:23:31.119 the record how exactly this connection was exposed to the 1702 01:23:31.119 --> 01:23:32.760 public right, and it came in. 1703 01:23:32.760 --> 01:23:40.399 The party on assassinations. John F. Kennedy assassination Jack Ruby 1704 01:23:40.520 --> 01:23:42.279 get forty dollars deposit, which be a lot of money 1705 01:23:42.279 --> 01:23:46.439 around their apartment in Dallas to a landlord's agent bearing 1706 01:23:46.520 --> 01:23:49.479 the name John Dee Norman. 1707 01:23:50.399 --> 01:23:55.119 Now, understanding that what you had in the Dallas nexus, 1708 01:23:55.279 --> 01:23:59.720 I think you know under again, I believe that there 1709 01:23:59.800 --> 01:24:04.399 is so much more to these just political mob connections 1710 01:24:04.439 --> 01:24:06.760 in regard to the network. It's so yeah, that is 1711 01:24:06.840 --> 01:24:09.680 very obvious that John David Norman was much more prominent 1712 01:24:09.720 --> 01:24:14.920 as a figure in this overarching network but politically connected. 1713 01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:18.840 And I think there were many different investigators in regard 1714 01:24:18.880 --> 01:24:21.920 to the Dallas case and also in the Illinois case 1715 01:24:22.279 --> 01:24:25.359 that were claiming they believed that there were significant ties 1716 01:24:25.560 --> 01:24:28.520 to John David Norman and the intelligence networks and potentially 1717 01:24:28.560 --> 01:24:29.079 the CIA. 1718 01:24:29.239 -->

01:24:32.159 Seemed very clear that they came in and destroyed the records. 1719 01:24:32.199 --> 01:24:35.399 They said, there's prominent members of the government, and then 1720 01:24:35.439 --> 01:24:38.399 the State Department, the Chicago Tribune, and the Police Department 1721 01:24:38.399 --> 01:24:41.720 all come in and destroy these meticulous records with everyone 1722 01:24:41.760 --> 01:24:43.920 said between thirty one hundred thousand clients, like yeah, it 1723 01:24:43.920 --> 01:24:46.760 seems pretty fucking obviously the governments involve exactly. I think 1724 01:24:46.800 --> 01:24:49.000 this goes beyond speculation. I think you could easily get 1725 01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:51.600 a condiction in court for the murders with the kills. 1726 01:24:51.840 --> 01:24:54.399 There's just too many connections. This is like clear, but 1727 01:24:54.560 --> 01:24:57.560 this was potentially not brought to trial, avoided buried. He 1728 01:24:57.680 --> 01:24:59.680 was continuing to let out of jails like he had 1729 01:24:59.760 --> 01:25:02.119 just very powerful connections. It was kind of like e Ftein, 1730 01:25:02.279 --> 01:25:04.439 how he kept getting these sweetheart deals. Go look at 1731 01:25:04.439 --> 01:25:06.640 this guy's rap sheet, the serious crimes, and then he 1732 01:25:06.800 --> 01:25:08.840 just be out, be out over and all. 1733 01:25:09.359 --> 01:25:13.039 It's ridiculous. And especially when you look at the jc's 1734 01:25:13.079 --> 01:25:15.720 connection to John Wayne Gacy. And that was when I 1735 01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:19.479 mentioned program to Kill earlier. Right, you have John Wayne 1736 01:25:19.479 --> 01:25:23.079 Gacy living in the sixties in Waterloo, Iowa. Now he 1737 01:25:23.159 --> 01:25:26.880 owned several businesses. This I had never come across except 1738 01:25:26.880 --> 01:25:29.920 for the book reference in Programs Killed by Dave McGowan. 1739 01:25:30.680 --> 01:25:34.960 So this included four restaurants, a clothing design firm, and 1740 01:25:35.079 --> 01:25:35.840 even a motel. 1741 01:25:36.640 --> 01:25:39.520 Motel would be perfect exactly. 1742 01:25:39.960 --> 01:25:42.920 Now, during that time, apparently he joined the jay C's 1743 01:25:43.680 --> 01:25:47.399 and allegedly this according to Dave McGowan, forged a bond 1744 01:25:47.439 --> 01:25:50.119 with a man who soon became the local chapter president. 1745 01:25:50.439 --> 01:25:53.359 I believe John mcgacy was the vice president of the 1746 01:25:53.439 --> 01:25:57.920 chapter itself. Now this chapter, this specific Jac's chapter was 1747 01:25:58.000 --> 01:26:01.279 known at the time to be involved in prostitution, pornography, 1748 01:26:01.880 --> 01:26:05.159 other crimes of vice allegedly. And so you have a 1749 01:26:05.159 --> 01:26:10.840 local prosecutor identifying Gaysey's motel managed by apparently this a 1750 01:26:10.880 --> 01:26:15.600 newfound friend, has the hub of those alleged criminal activities. 1751 01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:17.880 The hotel people would use just for random sex obviously 1752 01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:20.560 as well, and then the murders need to be brought 1753 01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:21.359 right to other places. 1754 01:26:21.439 --> 01:26:24.199 The prosecutor allegedly goes on the record saying the motel 1755 01:26:24.279 --> 01:26:26.800 was a front for a gay and straight prostitution ring. 1756 01:26:26.880 --> 01:26:28.159 Dam So if you. 1757 01:26:28.159 --> 01:26:31.560 Have that connection with Gaysey obviously hiring all of these 1758 01:26:31.600 --> 01:26:35.239 young people right to work for the not only BDM BDM. 1759 01:26:35.239 --> 01:26:37.279 The other thing, the fact that he's going in out 1760 01:26:37.279 --> 01:26:39.159 of prison, he has all these businesses. How are you 1761 01:26:39.279 --> 01:26:41.399 keeping your businesses going when you're and he's getting these 1762 01:26:41.439 --> 01:26:44.600 light sentences for horrific like rapes and stuff, and he 1763 01:26:44.680 --> 01:26:47.039 keeps this getting let out. It's just the story doesn't 1764 01:26:47.039 --> 01:26:47.439 add up. 1765 01:26:47.520 --> 01:26:48.159 But it doesn't. 1766 01:26:48.319 --> 01:26:50.279 There's been no that's why they wanted to quickly get 1767 01:26:50.319 --> 01:26:53.479 a loan actor. No investigation into the finances, no investigating 1768 01:26:53.520 --> 01:26:56.239 to his client, to his accomplices exactly. 1769 01:26:56.600 --> 01:26:59.079 And when you have this is also I thought interesting 1770 01:26:59.239 --> 01:27:02.439 in regard to his his wife, Like, so you have 1771 01:27:03.239 --> 01:27:08.159 obviously reportedly this this gay prostitution service and operating through 1772 01:27:08.199 --> 01:27:11.960 his motel. It was described as a social club according 1773 01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:15.760 to Dave McGowan, and in his basement recreation room which 1774 01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:18.359 he kept well stocked with drugs and alcohols applied to 1775 01:27:18.359 --> 01:27:21.880 his numerous underage guests. So boom, you already have instantly 1776 01:27:22.239 --> 01:27:24.119 they're administering the pharmaceutical ages. 1777 01:27:24.159 --> 01:27:27.239 Obviously now pattern you see the drugs and alcohol. And 1778 01:27:27.359 --> 01:27:29.840 something that's a little alarming is just how many people 1779 01:27:30.039 --> 01:27:32.920 knew about this, Maybe not the murderers, but the fact 1780 01:27:32.920 --> 01:27:36.000 that these like you know, children in twelve thirteen even 1781 01:27:36.079 --> 01:27:40.880 younger being abused through magazines advertising just the scale of it. 1782 01:27:40.920 --> 01:27:42.640 I think Partment wants to be buried because it could 1783 01:27:42.840 --> 01:27:46.079 this is when they're heavily pushing gay rights normalized. So 1784 01:27:46.159 --> 01:27:47.920 that's like maybe part of the reason it was buried, 1785 01:27:47.960 -->

01:27:49.119 but not the only reason. 1786 01:27:49.279 --> 01:27:54.720 Of the North American Man Boy Love Association are legitimately 1787 01:27:55.640 --> 01:28:01.079 apparently these NAMBLA members on the actual evidence here files 1788 01:28:01.119 --> 01:28:03.640 for the case files for for the John David Norman 1789 01:28:03.680 --> 01:28:07.159 Odyssey Foundation. This showed up in Dallas and Chicago. You 1790 01:28:07.199 --> 01:28:10.720 had a reference to two specific members of NAMBLO wanted 1791 01:28:10.760 --> 01:28:15.520 for murder. Wow, that were actually high profile clients of 1792 01:28:15.560 --> 01:28:16.520 the Odyssey Foundation. 1793 01:28:16.840 --> 01:28:20.159 That's why these particulars records were destroyed by three different groups. 1794 01:28:20.159 --> 01:28:22.439 And I only I should looked into Chicago Tribune a 1795 01:28:22.439 --> 01:28:24.439 little bit and see who owned that, who the reporters, 1796 01:28:24.520 --> 01:28:27.479 because it's where that a newspaper also destroyed these records. 1797 01:28:27.960 --> 01:28:32.880 Yeah, I think Operation Mockingbird never ended, right. 1798 01:28:33.159 --> 01:28:35.960 That's the controlling the media. We've done a while. But 1799 01:28:36.039 --> 01:28:37.680 we have to hit real quick. We have to go 1800 01:28:37.800 --> 01:28:40.520 into the Franklin scandal and then we can do a 1801 01:28:40.560 --> 01:28:43.680 couple offshoots. I think we have to at least address 1802 01:28:43.960 --> 01:28:47.800 because obviously I'm looking at that, but very obviously it's 1803 01:28:47.840 --> 01:28:51.640 just the identical of these selling boys. All the all 1804 01:28:51.640 --> 01:28:54.720 the allegations were identical to what Norman. Because it takes 1805 01:28:54.720 --> 01:28:56.119 a lot of time to research these saying, so I 1806 01:28:56.119 --> 01:28:59.680 haven't jumped in everything says there's no connection, But I 1807 01:28:59.720 --> 01:29:02.800 know the obviously has to be because Great Franklin scandal 1808 01:29:02.840 --> 01:29:05.600 started right after people know there's a giant triald trafficking 1809 01:29:05.680 --> 01:29:10.840 abuse murder. Which guy which that lead investigator? You know, 1810 01:29:10.880 --> 01:29:13.279 he died coming back. I believe from Chicago. He went 1811 01:29:13.319 --> 01:29:17.720 to Chicago because he found a lead, some hard evidence 1812 01:29:17.760 --> 01:29:21.279 he believed of connecting it all. He flew to Chicago, 1813 01:29:21.920 --> 01:29:23.239 his lane went down. Yeah. 1814 01:29:23.319 --> 01:29:27.399 Interesting, he would fly to Chicago, which is where yeah, exactly, 1815 01:29:27.439 --> 01:29:31.119 and John David Norman would relocate and create the Delta Project, 1816 01:29:31.119 --> 01:29:34.119 which was just the rebrand of the Odyssey Foundation. Obviously, 1817 01:29:34.199 --> 01:29:35.079 he was still in prison. 1818 01:29:35.119 --> 01:29:37.560 I think till like Saturday,

sid to run when he 1819 01:29:37.600 --> 01:29:39.439 was yeah, at Pasky, I believe. 1820 01:29:39.880 --> 01:29:42.319 I think Phil Paski got out in seventy six. Yeah, 1821 01:29:42.319 --> 01:29:45.680 and he was, yeah exactly. But when he was on 1822 01:29:45.720 --> 01:29:49.399 the outside, he was effectively running Delta, the Delta Project 1823 01:29:49.479 --> 01:29:52.039 for John David Norman while he was in prison, while 1824 01:29:52.079 --> 01:29:55.439 still facilitating because he keep in mind, obviously John David 1825 01:29:55.439 --> 01:29:59.079 Norman is still printing, you know, the promotional. 1826 01:29:59.119 --> 01:30:02.039 Literature news letter, and even in that I'm sure they're 1827 01:30:02.039 --> 01:30:03.600 not talk about the word, but you could buy like 1828 01:30:03.640 --> 01:30:05.600 a thirteen year old a twelve year old for like 1829 01:30:05.600 --> 01:30:08.319 three days like that was like open with thousands and 1830 01:30:08.359 --> 01:30:11.840 thousands of people. Advocate magazine ran on like which is 1831 01:30:11.880 --> 01:30:13.720 I think it's a big gay magazine today. So it 1832 01:30:13.800 --> 01:30:16.000 probably makes some people uncomfortable seeing just how out in 1833 01:30:16.039 --> 01:30:16.760 the open this was. 1834 01:30:16.840 --> 01:30:20.920 Yeah, honestly, and especially when I had mentioned Herme's publication 1835 01:30:20.960 --> 01:30:24.279 a few different times, and it turns out they were 1836 01:30:24.279 --> 01:30:27.680 offering a service through the subscription model where you could 1837 01:30:27.760 --> 01:30:30.199 sign up to be flown on a charter to North 1838 01:30:30.199 --> 01:30:33.640 Fox Island, Michigan, off the coast, and you could engage 1839 01:30:33.640 --> 01:30:36.640 in a human hunting ritual. Oh my god, to murder 1840 01:30:36.680 --> 01:30:38.840 a child on camera even. 1841 01:30:39.000 --> 01:30:42.239 Dude, Yeah, this comes up. And again back to Jatrow, 1842 01:30:42.479 --> 01:30:44.119 it's like we're talking there right now, but it's just 1843 01:30:44.239 --> 01:30:46.279 in the Epstein fileist was talking about hunting with the 1844 01:30:46.359 --> 01:30:47.359 roth to childs yea. 1845 01:30:48.479 --> 01:30:51.199 Honestly, my god, I couldn't believe. 1846 01:30:50.960 --> 01:30:54.239 That the old movies, how they put these hunting parties. 1847 01:30:54.279 --> 01:30:57.800 But then it almost certainly happened in Belgium. You don't remember, 1848 01:30:58.039 --> 01:31:00.920 there's one of the witnesses that came forward and they 1849 01:31:00.920 --> 01:31:03.359 gave exact details of who the victims were. All this 1850 01:31:03.600 --> 01:31:05.680 and again the police just pushed it away and they 1851 01:31:05.800 --> 01:31:07.399 literally named the victims who it. 1852 01:31:07.520 --> 01:31:10.880 Was, Regina loof the X one and the ex dossier 1853 01:31:11.039 --> 01:31:14.079 in Belgium. Man she said it was. She called it 1854 01:31:14.119 --> 01:31:16.680 the end circuit. When you age. 1855 01:31:16.319 --> 01:31:18.439 Out, then they hunt you and kill you. 1856 01:31:18.640 --> 01:31:21.960 Yes, that's what happens. Or snuff film in general for. 1857 01:31:22.520 --> 01:31:24.239 A good one to look at, because there's one hundred 1858 01:31:24.279 --> 01:31:27.399 percent convictions bodies these that's the one that just hit 1859 01:31:27.479 --> 01:31:29.840 me with, like, oh my god, this is all real. 1860 01:31:29.880 --> 01:31:31.800 And again they used the trow It's like that he 1861 01:31:31.800 --> 01:31:34.680 would be the John Wayne Gacy his own words, He's like, no, 1862 01:31:34.760 --> 01:31:35.720 it's a small guy. 1863 01:31:35.560 --> 01:31:38.079 In this sort of middle management, right, and he said 1864 01:31:38.359 --> 01:31:41.680 he was procuring children on behalf of Johnny Shelmy whole 1865 01:31:42.119 --> 01:31:44.680 who was really what even Judge Connor rot before he 1866 01:31:44.760 --> 01:31:48.680 was removed for how dare he attend the victims? 1867 01:31:49.119 --> 01:31:51.640 Obviously they had to remove the jives because he was 1868 01:31:51.640 --> 01:31:53.840 trying to really investigate it killed thirty people. 1869 01:31:54.119 --> 01:31:57.079 Oh y. He called it an international child sex mafia. 1870 01:31:57.560 --> 01:32:01.199 And they removed him because he had ended a gathering 1871 01:32:01.399 --> 01:32:04.479 on in support and on behalf of the victims' families. 1872 01:32:05.079 --> 01:32:07.600 That's all that it was, and because he attended, they 1873 01:32:07.680 --> 01:32:10.439 claimed it was a conflict of interest, when in reality 1874 01:32:10.479 --> 01:32:13.159 they replace him with a judge who's directly involved in 1875 01:32:13.239 --> 01:32:16.239 network and personal friends of Michelle ny Whole and Michelle 1876 01:32:16.279 --> 01:32:18.239 may Hull. Just this will be the last point on 1877 01:32:18.560 --> 01:32:20.359 the Dutrow and I'll actually get back. 1878 01:32:20.960 --> 01:32:24.039 I just think is the strongest possible case you could 1879 01:32:24.079 --> 01:32:27.239 see if I keep bringing this up, because if you're 1880 01:32:27.239 --> 01:32:28.960 not you might might not even look that up and 1881 01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:33.800 tell you that. But it is just absolutely undeniable the evidence. 1882 01:32:33.840 --> 01:32:36.279 It's the one really all connected to the high school, 1883 01:32:36.279 --> 01:32:38.960 I mean, government, the colts. This is a different country 1884 01:32:39.119 --> 01:32:40.960 in Belgium, but it's just the one that just hit 1885 01:32:41.039 --> 01:32:42.800 me like a ton of bricks. And I already look 1886 01:32:42.840 --> 01:32:46.119 into the Satanic panic a little bit, and then seeing 1887 01:32:46.159 --> 01:32:50.560 that and all the exact same details everywhere, it's just like, oh. 1888 01:32:50.319 --> 01:32:53.720 My god, du Trow. I believe this

is fart. You 1889 01:32:53.760 --> 01:32:56.279 have to get into far too much sophisticated detail to 1890 01:32:56.680 --> 01:32:59.920 like explain this. But at the same time, I believe 1891 01:33:00.039 --> 01:33:04.159 Neutrol really hinges on the entire network itself. The scandal 1892 01:33:04.279 --> 01:33:08.479 in the criminal case, it hinges on Operation Gladio and 1893 01:33:08.560 --> 01:33:11.720 basically what I believe was an intelligence operation in the 1894 01:33:11.760 --> 01:33:14.840 form of the John Darmes in regard to like that's 1895 01:33:14.840 --> 01:33:16.680 basically the Belgium FBI sort of thing. 1896 01:33:16.840 --> 01:33:19.279 Yeah, it shows that are definitely that the similarities are 1897 01:33:19.279 --> 01:33:22.359 too identical where there's some kind of flow between the two. 1898 01:33:22.840 --> 01:33:27.560 They had basically these paramilitary operations, right that were all 1899 01:33:28.359 --> 01:33:33.279 really founding, like Gladiol, because it was essentially what you're 1900 01:33:33.279 --> 01:33:37.279 seeing is this massive civil unrest being carried out. But 1901 01:33:37.319 --> 01:33:39.520 it's also what they call the years of Lead, right, 1902 01:33:39.640 --> 01:33:43.640 you have these crazy bombings, they just domestic civil unrest 1903 01:33:43.680 --> 01:33:45.720 happening all throughout the country, and it was it was 1904 01:33:45.760 --> 01:33:50.840 strategic and being implemented by this group of intelligence operatives 1905 01:33:51.159 --> 01:33:55.479 and that were basically they tied directly back to this 1906 01:33:55.800 --> 01:34:00.960 ridiculous operation in regard to the they were essentially running, 1907 01:34:01.039 --> 01:34:04.399 which I found interesting. They had set up Westland New Posts, 1908 01:34:04.399 --> 01:34:07.479 like all these these fundamental like publications things of that nature, 1909 01:34:07.520 --> 01:34:10.880 which were actually fronts for the operation itself. So they 1910 01:34:10.880 --> 01:34:15.039 were destabilizing civilized just civil life in Belgium at the time. 1911 01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:18.159 All the connections with the governments. 1912 01:34:18.560 --> 01:34:21.479 I mean, Michelle ny Whole said, I am the monster 1913 01:34:21.560 --> 01:34:24.840 of Belgium. I will never be held accountable because I 1914 01:34:24.960 --> 01:34:29.319 have incriminating evidence on tape of King Albert the Second 1915 01:34:29.840 --> 01:34:31.479 raping a twelve year old. 1916 01:34:31.840 --> 01:34:34.840 It's the most high level and it goes the most 1917 01:34:34.840 --> 01:34:38.079 horrific crimes to the highest level. People like literally the 1918 01:34:38.119 --> 01:34:41.000 police heard screaming and walked away. That's that case. And 1919 01:34:41.079 --> 01:34:45.680 like thirty people or died mysterious ways that were investigators 1920 01:34:45.760 --> 01:34:47.640 or witnesses and stuff in the case who were some 1921 01:34:47.680 --> 01:34:50.039 of the biggest protests they believe in Belgium history because 1922 01:34:50.039 --> 01:34:53.920 it was just so obvious. Yeah, so obviously a government. 1923 01:34:55.600 --> 01:34:59.920 You would think with the current environment we find our 1924 01:35:00.319 --> 01:35:04.760 in the domestic us, I don't. I'm kind of ideologically independent. 1925 01:35:04.960 --> 01:35:08.920 I don't play partisan politics. Yeah, I view that we're 1926 01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:12.960 essentially surrounded by a pedophile occupied government. And as much 1927 01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:15.479 as I don't want to say that, I think that's 1928 01:35:15.560 --> 01:35:18.640 unfortunately the reality we're facing it. And I never in 1929 01:35:18.720 --> 01:35:22.079 my life wanted to come to that conclusion. But when 1930 01:35:22.079 --> 01:35:26.840 you're overexposed this level, like legitimate connections that are credible 1931 01:35:26.840 --> 01:35:27.920 as hell, I mean. 1932 01:35:28.000 --> 01:35:29.920 And then I think it's very relevant today because people 1933 01:35:29.960 --> 01:35:32.640 saw this Epstein file and they just absolutely refuse to 1934 01:35:32.680 --> 01:35:36.199 release them. Despite court orders everything. What do they say 1935 01:35:36.239 --> 01:35:38.680 the government would collapse if they were released? They let 1936 01:35:38.760 --> 01:35:41.079 that shit collapse. It shows you would. And there's all 1937 01:35:41.159 --> 01:35:43.399 kinds of actuations of there this exact same stuff we're 1938 01:35:43.439 --> 01:35:46.319 talking about, and it's just at the highest level. Again, 1939 01:35:46.399 --> 01:35:49.079 Epstein was like a very very high level, so he 1940 01:35:49.119 --> 01:35:52.600 wouldn't be a street level procurer. He was amongst the politicians, 1941 01:35:52.640 --> 01:35:55.880 the very elite of society, and these lower level procures 1942 01:35:55.880 --> 01:35:58.159 would probably bring him. He had all these traffickers that 1943 01:35:58.199 --> 01:35:58.960 were for him and stuff. 1944 01:35:59.039 --> 01:36:02.399 Yeah, and when you have now Paul Banacci, I think 1945 01:36:02.640 --> 01:36:05.199 he deserves kind of his own moment in a way 1946 01:36:05.239 --> 01:36:09.039 because he's such a credible window into attaching these criminal 1947 01:36:09.079 --> 01:36:12.359 cases and in a legitimate way that should, you know, 1948 01:36:12.439 --> 01:36:15.239 be taken very seriously. And when when I've watched so 1949 01:36:15.520 --> 01:36:18.439 much just his deposition character. 1950 01:36:18.239 --> 01:36:20.760 The Franklin scandal, which the Franklin scandal just real quick 1951 01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:23.880 with this huge started his financial scandal. It turned into 1952 01:36:23.880 --> 01:36:26.680 the satanic you know, of all getting flown across the country, 1953 01:36:26.720 --> 01:36:31.520 all these places like Chicago, these just most horrific stuff

imaginable, 1954 01:36:31.640 --> 01:36:33.600 some of it to sack some of them murder, just 1955 01:36:34.079 --> 01:36:36.119 very similar to all these other stuff, right, and Dashi 1956 01:36:36.239 --> 01:36:38.039 was the guy who came forward to that originally or 1957 01:36:38.079 --> 01:36:38.520 is that how it? 1958 01:36:38.840 --> 01:36:44.159 Yeah, he basically was again they charge and Alicia Owen. 1959 01:36:44.239 --> 01:36:46.479 Yeah, before if they threw him in jail, he later 1960 01:36:46.520 --> 01:36:48.359 won a civil suit for a million dollars because it's 1961 01:36:48.359 --> 01:36:50.720 not very incredible, and that's how they tried burying the case, 1962 01:36:50.760 --> 01:36:52.760 being like, oh, he's not credible. They literally threw him 1963 01:36:52.760 --> 01:36:53.159 in jail. 1964 01:36:53.399 --> 01:36:56.640 Yeah. And if you remember, there's even a there's one 1965 01:36:56.720 --> 01:37:00.279 video that's so sad that that is him basically, you know. 1966 01:37:00.439 --> 01:37:04.239 Not only does he name and identify Michael Lokino as 1967 01:37:04.359 --> 01:37:07.640 the handler and the individual who's running Project Monarch, he 1968 01:37:07.760 --> 01:37:12.680 goes into detail about how also he was recruited and 1969 01:37:12.680 --> 01:37:15.359 and the programming began for him at the age of three. 1970 01:37:15.439 --> 01:37:17.520 Oh my god, so they get them so young? Yes, 1971 01:37:17.640 --> 01:37:20.760 and he helped kidnap children and he like described They say, oh, 1972 01:37:20.840 --> 01:37:23.199 he's make us up, but he described details we would 1973 01:37:23.239 --> 01:37:26.000 know about. It's like, again, it's. 1974 01:37:25.880 --> 01:37:27.640 An ignoring lot of evidence. 1975 01:37:29.119 --> 01:37:30.520 To I haven't. 1976 01:37:30.680 --> 01:37:33.479 He's the one who explained the paper boy fetish because 1977 01:37:33.479 --> 01:37:36.960 Paul Bonacci was the individual who actually chloroformed Johnny Gosh, 1978 01:37:37.279 --> 01:37:40.640 who was one of the first kids to ever spend players. 1979 01:37:40.239 --> 01:37:44.439 To to kidnap these kids a lot. That's something I 1980 01:37:44.600 --> 01:37:46.399 saw through this stuff too, which is terrible. But you 1981 01:37:46.439 --> 01:37:48.720 see they use teenagers to lure kids to the house. 1982 01:37:48.840 --> 01:37:53.479 Don't care obviously as a child or a young person. 1983 01:37:53.439 --> 01:37:55.239 Taught to be scared of older adults, so they go 1984 01:37:55.279 --> 01:37:58.279 and to get these kids. It's just like stark stuff. 1985 01:37:58.319 --> 01:37:59.920 I mean, we covered a lot. Any other things we 1986 01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:02.520 want to hit that are really important to this, I 1987 01:38:02.560 --> 01:38:03.079 should at. 1988 01:38:03.000 --> 01:38:07.039 Least say, because yeah, and again we could. It's it's 1989 01:38:07.039 --> 01:38:10.680 hard to perfectly present and package all of

this copious 1990 01:38:10.680 --> 01:38:14.239 amounts of evidence because you kind of have to go 1991 01:38:14.399 --> 01:38:19.039 through this process of branching out into various overlapping you know. 1992 01:38:19.039 --> 01:38:22.520 Catigig sound like just some crazy skids. So basically everything 1993 01:38:22.560 --> 01:38:26.079 we talked about is mainstream. Well, like that thing you 1994 01:38:26.119 --> 01:38:28.520 should be it's something that's hard to find WIKPDI, but 1995 01:38:28.560 --> 01:38:31.079 if you very identify it out you can find it. Like, 1996 01:38:31.159 --> 01:38:32.680 can you show me a very critical article if I 1997 01:38:32.680 --> 01:38:36.760 put it on there with the Ruby connection the Ripper murderers, like, 1998 01:38:37.119 --> 01:38:39.720 nothing will connect them together to you online, but you 1999 01:38:39.760 --> 01:38:42.479 can start figuring these connections out only if you have them, 2000 01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:46.560 you should being like they're very deliberately like branched apart exactly. 2001 01:38:46.880 --> 01:38:50.439 And I really think that that's the overall design of 2002 01:38:50.479 --> 01:38:53.000 how you facilitate a proper cover up in this way, 2003 01:38:53.279 --> 01:38:56.279 right is they have strategically evolved to such an extent 2004 01:38:56.399 --> 01:38:59.479 where I think they can fundamentally perform a cover up 2005 01:38:59.479 --> 01:39:00.600 in a very effective way. 2006 01:39:01.560 --> 01:39:04.439 Clearly it's happening. We both investigating this stuff. We're seeing 2007 01:39:04.520 --> 01:39:07.079 the same patterns, Like if I hadn't been researching and 2008 01:39:07.079 --> 01:39:09.079 stuff when I talked today, but who's this crazy guy 2009 01:39:09.159 --> 01:39:11.479 ranting about? You know, You're like, okay, we have to 2010 01:39:11.520 --> 01:39:13.600 like cover this vary where people should look up everything 2011 01:39:13.600 --> 01:39:15.680 we say we didn't make. There's very little speculation we 2012 01:39:15.720 --> 01:39:18.880 did today exactly, and we clarified we're speculating things like 2013 01:39:19.119 --> 01:39:20.880 I wanted to make this very precise of things that 2014 01:39:21.159 --> 01:39:24.840 you could find on mainstream sources. The only speculations. There's 2015 01:39:24.880 --> 01:39:27.319 not hard proof the government's involved, but there is though 2016 01:39:27.359 --> 01:39:29.800 with the cover ups destroying the evidence, I think it's 2017 01:39:29.840 --> 01:39:32.680 like there's no other explanation that I could see. 2018 01:39:32.640 --> 01:39:35.800 Right, And we'll get a little bit because honestly, Franklin's 2019 01:39:35.880 --> 01:39:40.439 so just overwhelmingly undeniable in terms of all of the 2020 01:39:40.479 --> 01:39:44.720 connections of various connections within that criminal case. But Bonacci 2021 01:39:44.760 --> 01:39:49.319 coming forward, and again I should tell you that Emilio Tony, 2022 01:39:49.399 --> 01:39:52.560 these individuals that they were using false names, that allegedly 2023 01:39:52.600 --> 01:39:55.279 were the abductors of Johnny. Gosh it, and whenever this 2024 01:39:55.279 --> 01:39:56.920 took place. And by the way, Johnny's one of the 2025 01:39:56.920 --> 01:39:58.439 first to ever be placed on the back of the 2026 01:39:58.439 --> 01:40:04.039 milk carton. Yeah, exactly. And Noreen would later on write 2027 01:40:04.039 --> 01:40:07.760 in her book, which actually was only published very recently, 2028 01:40:07.800 --> 01:40:11.279 it was like twenty twenty four, It wasn't that long. Yeah, 2029 01:40:11.319 --> 01:40:13.720 because I know she went, she testified, she went on 2030 01:40:13.760 --> 01:40:15.960 the record saying all these things, but she really put 2031 01:40:15.960 --> 01:40:18.520 it into better detail in her book, and she even 2032 01:40:18.560 --> 01:40:23.760 discusses how she names. She says that her son, Johnny 2033 01:40:24.279 --> 01:40:29.279 was abducted by John David Norman and Phil Pasky. That's 2034 01:40:29.319 --> 01:40:32.079 what she says. She says that they were responsible for 2035 01:40:32.279 --> 01:40:37.039 ordering the paperboy fetish And that's what inevitably. 2036 01:40:36.600 --> 01:40:39.680 Some high paying client probably asks for these guys, were 2037 01:40:39.720 --> 01:40:40.560 their procures. 2038 01:40:40.640 --> 01:40:44.520 Yes, now here's what's crazy is apparently Johnny leading up 2039 01:40:44.520 --> 01:40:48.279 to the abduction, he was I believe his father was 2040 01:40:48.319 --> 01:40:50.800 effectively a part of potentially being I think it was 2041 01:40:50.840 --> 01:40:54.000 even involved in the network in general, and was but yeah, 2042 01:40:54.039 --> 01:40:58.479 he even later on he would beat his own wife, Noreen, for. 2043 01:40:58.600 --> 01:41:00.439 Speaking about it silence. 2044 01:41:00.560 --> 01:41:04.319 Yeah, and they would. Yeah, I'm honestly surprised that she's alive, 2045 01:41:04.600 --> 01:41:06.880 as terrible as that sounds, you know, for as vocal 2046 01:41:06.920 --> 01:41:09.479 as she's been willing to be. She named Michael Lochino 2047 01:41:09.760 --> 01:41:12.800 on court documents, like she claims that he was directly 2048 01:41:12.840 --> 01:41:16.439 responsible for uh, you know, Paul Bonacci, and also for 2049 01:41:16.600 --> 01:41:20.279 her own son and her own son's procurement Johnny Gosh 2050 01:41:20.279 --> 01:41:23.800 through through that network, because basically through Franklin what you 2051 01:41:23.880 --> 01:41:27.079 found out. But now she says, and there's another individual 2052 01:41:27.119 --> 01:41:30.399 who said they saw on off of Air Force Base 2053 01:41:30.720 --> 01:41:33.960 they saw Michael Lochino and Lawrence King of the Franklin 2054 01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:37.920 Credit Union in Omaha, Nebraska in a financial transaction handing 2055 01:41:38.000 -->

01:41:39.479 each other. I forget, I think it was. 2056 01:41:39.680 --> 01:41:43.319 I know there too, Yeah, it wasn't he highly involved 2057 01:41:43.319 --> 01:41:47.800 in the Iran contrast canal. Oh. Yeah, this stuff all intersects. 2058 01:41:47.560 --> 01:41:52.359 And it's even worse because Paul Bonacci claims that he 2059 01:41:52.520 --> 01:41:56.600 was victimized in Illinois, right and and by the way, 2060 01:41:56.800 --> 01:41:58.880 oh my gosh, this is the craziest connection. What I 2061 01:41:58.920 --> 01:42:03.800 discovered was Paul Banacci. He has a step brother all 2062 01:42:03.880 --> 01:42:06.800 right now, His mother remarried when he was very young, 2063 01:42:07.039 --> 01:42:11.279 and then basically he had a stepbrother by the name 2064 01:42:11.279 --> 01:42:14.319 of Jack McCoy or no, Timothy McCoy. Jack McCoy was 2065 01:42:14.319 --> 01:42:20.279 his step father, so his stepbrother became Jack or Timothy McCoy. Now, 2066 01:42:21.079 --> 01:42:25.119 the very first victim of John Wayne Gacy from Nebraska 2067 01:42:25.359 --> 01:42:28.920 was the step brother of Paul Banacci. Timothy McCoy. 2068 01:42:29.039 --> 01:42:31.239 I thowt Omaha, Nebraska, and I was like, there's gotta 2069 01:42:31.279 --> 01:42:36.479 be a Franklincyanel connection there, I guess, like. 2070 01:42:36.279 --> 01:42:40.079 And Paul claims, I know brother, and he claims that 2071 01:42:40.199 --> 01:42:44.439 he was basically, he was kind of like a secretary 2072 01:42:44.560 --> 01:42:47.119 for the Norman's operation for a brief time while he 2073 01:42:47.199 --> 01:42:49.680 was being sexually abused by a school teacher when he 2074 01:42:49.720 --> 01:42:51.640 was a young person. This is what Paul. 2075 01:42:51.439 --> 01:42:53.760 Claimed was throwing Jael because he came with so much 2076 01:42:53.880 --> 01:42:58.000 explosive stuff with the Norman. He knew all the whole network. 2077 01:42:58.640 --> 01:43:01.319 I haven't done that much. He's until honestly but. 2078 01:43:02.760 --> 01:43:06.159 On his deposition, he's still affected and plagued by the 2079 01:43:06.199 --> 01:43:09.840 dissociative identity disorder and the trauma attached to everything that 2080 01:43:09.880 --> 01:43:13.720 he was involved in. But here's what's insane, is he 2081 01:43:13.720 --> 01:43:18.319 he even describes he calls them triggers, the altars, he 2082 01:43:18.359 --> 01:43:23.479 calls them, and he claimed they had no capability of 2083 01:43:24.039 --> 01:43:28.119 maintaining memories. Nothing, he said when they would trigger the 2084 01:43:28.159 --> 01:43:32.000 altar right, and he he called it a trigger, but 2085 01:43:32.039 --> 01:43:35.359 the trigger would only behave based on the programming it 2086 01:43:35.399 --> 01:43:37.680 was given, so he wouldn't even know, but the trigger 2087 01:43:37.720 --> 01:43:40.720 would know, which he said. The very first identity he 2088 01:43:40.800 --> 01:43:45.239 was programmed with,

what was an individual named Mike Lee 2089 01:43:45.319 --> 01:43:47.239 or wes Lee? I think it was wes Lee. Was 2090 01:43:47.319 --> 01:43:49.720 what what what I mean? Obviously it's not an individual, 2091 01:43:49.800 --> 01:43:51.199 it's a program that identity. 2092 01:43:51.279 --> 01:43:53.760 This is what Guiltra was doing. They were working on 2093 01:43:53.800 --> 01:43:55.640 this program. This is not like a secret And I 2094 01:43:55.680 --> 01:43:58.760 think it probably well David probably links to the mass 2095 01:43:58.760 --> 01:44:01.159 shooters and all that. Absolutely, I think, you know, which 2096 01:44:01.239 --> 01:44:03.439 maybe cover a couple of crazy ship real quick before 2097 01:44:03.439 --> 01:44:05.680 we will coll get into the couple of loose ship. 2098 01:44:05.760 --> 01:44:07.079 But just real quick, before we do that. Where can 2099 01:44:07.079 --> 01:44:09.119 people find you? And ships. Don't forget that I forget 2100 01:44:09.159 --> 01:44:11.159 to do that something on my back. Well, I just 2101 01:44:11.199 --> 01:44:14.600 stopped issue and so where can peple find your podcast? 2102 01:44:16.079 --> 01:44:18.880 I'm terrible with the same. So I'll promote my ship too. 2103 01:44:18.960 --> 01:44:21.479 He's got to demonetized fight back podcast. This is the 2104 01:44:21.520 --> 01:44:23.600 damn Blaserian for Congress. Sure one hundred percent of this 2105 01:44:23.680 --> 01:44:25.760 goes to damn Blasarian campaign. But if you buy anything 2106 01:44:25.760 --> 01:44:29.319 else my website or donation links. Unfortunately, I hate promo 2107 01:44:29.359 --> 01:44:31.479 a ship. I've been demand has everywhere now and I 2108 01:44:31.520 --> 01:44:32.720 know you have a YouTube, right. 2109 01:44:32.640 --> 01:44:35.399 And yeah, yeah, And of course the YouTube overlords have 2110 01:44:35.399 --> 01:44:39.199 have been playing fast and loose with my talking about 2111 01:44:39.199 --> 01:44:43.840 this stuff exactly and honestly, uh my my podcast is 2112 01:44:43.840 --> 01:44:46.800 called the Underclass Podcast. That's the channel you can find 2113 01:44:46.800 --> 01:44:50.800 me on YouTube. Subscribe for sure, definitely subscribe to the 2114 01:44:50.880 --> 01:44:53.520 Rumble as well. It's it's something I'm trying to grow 2115 01:44:53.560 --> 01:44:55.920 it just because I'm I'm about. 2116 01:44:56.000 --> 01:44:58.159 Going to Rumble too. I kind of neglected it because 2117 01:44:58.159 --> 01:45:00.239 YouTube pays so much better. But then I'm like, that's 2118 01:45:00.279 --> 01:45:02.319 the only thing, the only place I'm not demonetized now, 2119 01:45:02.359 --> 01:45:04.359 but unfortunately the pay is not very good. Rumble Up 2120 01:45:04.399 --> 01:45:06.760 your pay Yeah, and then I'll start trying to heavily. 2121 01:45:06.800 --> 01:45:08.159 I'm going to have to push people there anyways. Can 2122 01:45:08.199 --> 01:45:09.039 I lose my YouTube? 2123 01:45:09.359 --> 01:45:11.520 No, yeah, exactly. I don't like this type of stuff 2124 01:45:11.520 --> 01:45:14.720 getting out there, and and that's why it's very much 2125 01:45:14.800 --> 01:45:20.000 kind of ridiculed and forced into this strange alternative theoretical 2126 01:45:20.319 --> 01:45:21.880 you know, environmental crazy skid. 2127 01:45:21.960 --> 01:45:24.399 So that's why today I wanted to focus on things 2128 01:45:24.399 --> 01:45:27.239 that anyone can look at. You this stuff up in mainstream. Again, 2129 01:45:27.279 --> 01:45:28.560 you might have to dig a little bit because they 2130 01:45:28.600 --> 01:45:30.479 try to hide this stuff. It's like, but it is 2131 01:45:30.520 --> 01:45:33.520 all out there in mainstream, like everything we talked about exactly. 2132 01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:37.520 And oh and I guess I should plug my Patreon 2133 01:45:37.560 --> 01:45:40.560 as well. The Underclass podcast definitely the best place to 2134 01:45:40.640 --> 01:45:43.359 support me, and and uh, there's at least an incentive 2135 01:45:43.359 --> 01:45:46.079 there for even at the lowest level. I have a 2136 01:45:46.079 --> 01:45:48.800 payworld show that I do with my good friend Brad 2137 01:45:48.840 --> 01:45:52.079 Binkley from the Propaganda Report podcast and also my brother 2138 01:45:52.119 --> 01:45:52.680 Sam Triple. 2139 01:45:52.800 --> 01:45:57.600 That's awesome and stuff together, like your so much knowledge 2140 01:45:57.720 --> 01:45:59.720 than Gus. We're talking like, oh god, this is like 2141 01:45:59.760 --> 01:46:02.199 so much we need to like isolate and it's just 2142 01:46:02.279 --> 01:46:06.359 like but like unfortunately need support because what he wanted everywhere. 2143 01:46:06.399 --> 01:46:08.720 So I appreciate that and we can in almost two hours. 2144 01:46:08.720 --> 01:46:10.159 But there's anything else we should hit. 2145 01:46:10.279 --> 01:46:12.520 The only thing that I did want to say is 2146 01:46:12.560 --> 01:46:15.359 that keep in mind John Wayne Gacy as a member 2147 01:46:15.399 --> 01:46:17.600 of the you know, high profile member of the j 2148 01:46:17.800 --> 01:46:20.479 c's right, this junior Chamber of Commerce. It's like sort 2149 01:46:20.479 --> 01:46:23.399 of or it's not, yeah, it's it's basically this this 2150 01:46:23.520 --> 01:46:25.880 opportunistic deal powerful. 2151 01:46:26.600 --> 01:46:29.039 I think it was a very powerful political organization. 2152 01:46:29.079 --> 01:46:30.680 It's how we kind of mold you to become a 2153 01:46:30.720 --> 01:46:35.560 political you know, let's just say, a prominent political figure 2154 01:46:35.600 --> 01:46:37.199 in the future, right if you want to be like 2155 01:46:37.279 --> 01:46:41.359 John Wayne Gaze, which is so crazy that he's as 2156 01:46:41.439 --> 01:46:45.960 the vice president of that Waterloo chapter, he's orchestrating as 2157 01:46:46.079 --> 01:46:50.560 vice president, he's orchestrating the parade and the

meeting, and 2158 01:46:50.840 --> 01:46:53.119 basically he's the one who goes and meets Rosalind Carter 2159 01:46:53.199 --> 01:46:56.960 as she she arrives for the parade. And so just knowing, no, 2160 01:46:57.239 --> 01:47:00.439 man that that's too high profile for that. Now, how 2161 01:47:00.520 --> 01:47:04.119 the first lady goes unter first a serial killer, pedophile, 2162 01:47:04.600 --> 01:47:06.920 And so I'll leave it at that. And then also 2163 01:47:07.560 --> 01:47:10.960 I wanted to make sure, I said Paul Bonacci. He 2164 01:47:11.159 --> 01:47:14.039 mentioned the fact as he's, you know, serving as sort 2165 01:47:14.039 --> 01:47:16.640 of a secretary for the network and the index cards 2166 01:47:16.640 --> 01:47:20.680 and the client profile cards. He says that basically he 2167 01:47:20.760 --> 01:47:26.880 saw two names that were fundamentally homosexual pedophiles that were 2168 01:47:27.039 --> 01:47:30.960 predators involved and named in the Franklin scandal, and it 2169 01:47:31.079 --> 01:47:35.520 was Alan Baar and Harold Stevenson with an E. And 2170 01:47:35.600 --> 01:47:38.279 those two names were on the pink index cards of 2171 01:47:38.359 --> 01:47:42.239 John David Norman's high profile clients. And also one last 2172 01:47:42.279 --> 01:47:45.840 thing that's fascinating, and that is the two perpetrators in 2173 01:47:45.920 --> 01:47:49.479 nineteen eighty seven found with the six children in Tallahassee 2174 01:47:49.800 --> 01:47:53.279 for the Finders cult. So it turns out they had 2175 01:47:53.279 --> 01:47:56.920 a list of names and numbers on their person whenever 2176 01:47:56.960 --> 01:48:00.960 they were arrested in Tallahassee. Now I came to find 2177 01:48:01.600 --> 01:48:06.960 that you have apparently not only names of members of 2178 01:48:07.039 --> 01:48:12.439 NAMBLA wanted for murder, but you also had individual like 2179 01:48:12.520 --> 01:48:16.199 basically what you had were those two perpetrators and the Finders. 2180 01:48:16.600 --> 01:48:20.560 They were purchasing young boys from John David Norman's Odyssey Foundation. 2181 01:48:20.760 --> 01:48:24.000 And this was discovered in the actual criminal records, and 2182 01:48:24.039 --> 01:48:29.199 so yeah, when it'll you know, there's just so many 2183 01:48:29.279 --> 01:48:32.159 links and like, there's way more we talked about on record, 2184 01:48:32.159 --> 01:48:33.640 but it's just too much to cover it all in. 2185 01:48:33.760 --> 01:48:36.359 We're doing several episodes this next couple of days. I'm 2186 01:48:36.359 --> 01:48:37.960 not sure what we're releasing in so if you want 2187 01:48:37.960 --> 01:48:40.079 to watch more we have stuff out together, go follow 2188 01:48:40.119 --> 01:48:43.439 your other channels. Oh last thing about astutely, just like 2189 01:48:43.479 --> 01:48:45.520 said started the members on put on fight Back, I'm 2190 01:48:45.520 --> 01:48:47.479 gonna put some behind the scenes stuff. I literally just 2191 01:48:47.520 --> 01:48:49.560 started it, so I'm just put little extra stuff on there. 2192 01:48:50.119 --> 01:48:53.399 I really appreciate it. That's not the most fun thing 2193 01:48:53.439 --> 01:48:55.640 to talk about, but it's but it's important for people 2194 01:48:55.680 --> 01:48:59.079 to start realizing that we're a pedophile occupied government. And 2195 01:48:59.119 --> 01:49:02.479 I think it's maybe the right timing now with Epstein 2196 01:49:02.520 --> 01:49:04.680 and people being a little more open to this reality. 2197 01:49:05.119 --> 01:49:07.479 And I highly recommend everyone back check anything we said. 2198 01:49:07.560 --> 01:49:10.319 That's why I wanted to be very precise today, asked 2199 01:49:10.319 --> 01:49:12.359 you to find records of things. You know. I think 2200 01:49:12.359 --> 01:49:13.800 we're trying to be very precise with this. 2201 01:49:13.920 --> 01:49:16.359 So thanks a lot, absolutely, And one last thing is that, Okay, 2202 01:49:16.399 --> 01:49:19.600 if I'd said one basically, I just want to say 2203 01:49:19.680 --> 01:49:24.279 that all I hope to effectively accomplish is beyond you know, 2204 01:49:24.319 --> 01:49:27.399 obviously my own personal, you know, career path. In a way, 2205 01:49:27.720 --> 01:49:31.039 what I really the whole reason that I'm even doing 2206 01:49:31.039 --> 01:49:35.640 this is because I am I just resonated so like 2207 01:49:36.119 --> 01:49:39.880 in terms of attempting to provide a spite, to a 2208 01:49:39.920 --> 01:49:45.439 spotlight to these unfortunate victims that had no care caretakers, 2209 01:49:45.479 --> 01:49:49.600 you know, legitimate guardians or protectors that would be able 2210 01:49:49.960 --> 01:49:53.880 to essentially defend the most vulnerable among us. And realizing 2211 01:49:53.920 --> 01:49:59.279 that we're in a place where really this is systematically 2212 01:49:59.399 --> 01:50:03.039 entrenched itself such a level that it's almost impossible to 2213 01:50:03.079 --> 01:50:07.520 conceptualize and and once we come to at least the 2214 01:50:07.560 --> 01:50:12.239 fundamental of let's just say the agreement at a certain level, 2215 01:50:12.319 --> 01:50:14.640 until we come to an agreement, because you would think, 2216 01:50:14.680 --> 01:50:17.159 with Epstein, why was there not a reaction like the 2217 01:50:17.199 --> 01:50:18.680 White Flowers march in Belgium? 2218 01:50:18.760 --> 01:50:21.119 Yeah, I know, I was the point we did nothing, 2219 01:50:21.119 --> 01:50:22.199 And I'm guilty of that too. 2220 01:50:22.600 --> 01:50:26.119 I think we're kind of just in a real way. 2221 01:50:26.319 --> 01:50:28.800 To it almost almost intentional thought. 2222 01:50:28.840 --> 01:50:32.319 The concept of allowable opinion being pushed into a dystopian direction. 2223 01:50:32.560 --> 01:50:35.479 And I'm very concerned with the level that actually does 2224 01:50:35.560 --> 01:50:38.920 resonate with the general public because it's more about I 2225 01:50:38.920 --> 01:50:41.079 would rather not know. I would rather. 2226 01:50:42.600 --> 01:50:45.159 Investigating this stuff. But I feel like we have to know. 2227 01:50:45.239 --> 01:50:48.039 And again that's why I say do it. And you know, 2228 01:50:48.840 --> 01:50:51.159 I think it's very important. You said like they prey 2229 01:50:51.359 --> 01:50:53.840 on the week. That's actually how when they get caught. 2230 01:50:54.000 --> 01:50:56.000 It's usually when they get someone with parents to go after. 2231 01:50:56.039 --> 01:50:58.399 And that's how Gaycy got caught. The parents. That is 2232 01:50:58.439 --> 01:51:01.800 how Jeffrey Epstein it was. Uh, he mostly got people 2233 01:51:01.840 --> 01:51:03.760 that didn't have a dad, the dad, the girl you see, 2234 01:51:03.760 --> 01:51:05.960 the daughter wasn't acting right. He goes, hey, what's wrong 2235 01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:08.439 with you? This guy's abusing me, you know because you 2236 01:51:08.439 --> 01:51:10.720 can see his daughter. Hey, like, something's not right. But 2237 01:51:10.760 --> 01:51:13.880 they prey on people with broken homes. And it's just sick, man. 2238 01:51:13.960 --> 01:51:16.039 It's just it is hard to research it. Don't open 2239 01:51:16.079 --> 01:51:17.640 research it, and some people maybe they don't have the 2240 01:51:17.640 --> 01:51:20.239 brains for it. And that's especially the fucking showcase. 2241 01:51:20.279 --> 01:51:23.039 Ye. And I'm not trying to judge anyone who who is, 2242 01:51:23.199 --> 01:51:25.640 you know a little bit until we need to be outraged. Yeah, 2243 01:51:25.640 --> 01:51:27.600 And that's how I feel. And that's the bottom line 2244 01:51:27.640 --> 01:51:30.439 and the ultimate kind of you know, the end result 2245 01:51:30.560 --> 01:51:34.039 of the conclusion we should come to is we're not 2246 01:51:34.520 --> 01:51:35.920 we don't hate our government enough. 2247 01:51:36.079 --> 01:51:39.239 In my we don't hate them enough because there's direct 2248 01:51:39.279 --> 01:51:41.399 ties in the government and everything we talked about, and 2249 01:51:41.479 --> 01:51:43.399 hopefully we could follow because I know it's a fucking 2250 01:51:43.439 --> 01:51:47.000 lot of information, but uh, thank you, thanks so much. 2251 01:51:47.119 --> 01:51:49.439 Of course, as many of you know, I have many 2252 01:51:49.439 --> 01:51:52.920 controversial guests that comes at the cost of being demonetized everywhere. 2253 01:51:53.199 --> 01:51:55.079 So if you want to support the program, go to 2254 01:51:55.119 --> 01:51:57.960 a fight backpodcast dot com and I have all kinds 2255 01:51:57.960 --> 01:52:00.560 of merch on there, whether it's jiu jitsu, fighting, political 2256 01:52:00.640 --> 01:52:05.560 and other accessories. And thanks for the support. 2257 01:52:10.880 --> 01:52:11.399 Mm hmm.