النص الكامل لحلقة Question for the Callers: What is the Score Sunday? Are the Cowboys Still the 49ers Biggest Rival? Warriors Talk with Marcus Thompson

00:04:00 Speaker 3: They should. 00:04:00 Speaker 2: And get Sam Elliott to play him. 00:04:02 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:04:02 Speaker 2: That'd be the dude. 00:04:03 Speaker 4: But, no, I mean, like, since that time in 1994... It was where it sits that time. It's been when the Niners have dominated this thing. And yes, the Charles Haley trade, Steve Young was like, this is the worst trade in sports. Like, why would you trade him to an NFC competitor? It's kind of like, it's kind of like, you know, when the Packers traded for Micah Parsons just a year ago, it's like, why would you do that? Any other team, but compensation, I get it all that. But honestly, since that time, I mean, it's only been a few playoff appearances and it's been with Kyle Shanahan at the helm as head coach, but the Niners have dominated the Cowboys. It's not even close. 00:04:34 Speaker 2: They're 4-2 against them under Kyle Shanahan. 00:04:36 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:04:37 Speaker 4: But those ones, the 2017 season and the COVID year of 2020, those weren't competitive teams for the 49ers. So when both teams are at the height of their powers, it's really been what Kyle Shanahan dominates, whether it's Mike McCarthy or... I mean, he hasn't faced Brian Schottenheimer yet, but. 00:04:54 Speaker 2: No, it's just where Kyle knows what to do because he's the superior coach in this matchup. 00:05:00 Speaker 4: And again, as I keep bringing this up, Jerry Jones doesn't value coaching. So when I think of this rivalry, it's not really a rivalry anymore because you've even said this yourself, Copes. I was just going to get to it. 00:05:08 Speaker 5: Go ahead. 00:05:09 Speaker 4: When you think of the 49ers, the teams you hate are the Packers and the Giants, right? 00:05:14 Speaker 2: I do. Well, what's funny is, like, this 209 texter said as a 90s kid, and I am a 90s kid. Like, I was born in 89, but, like, I associate so much of my childhood and my formulating my sports opinions on... I would say I came online as a sports fan. Like, that's when I really started to register, like... I remember the 97 world series. And then I remember 98 as a full baseball season. I'm like, I'm online. I remember the 96 Superbowl, I guess it would have been early 97, but the 96 champion in the Packers over the Patriots. I remember all of the Broncos runs. I remember all the Steve Young stuff and all that against the, the Brett Favre led Packers, Jeff Garcia and all that. That's into the two thousands. But for me, that's, that's what I mean as a nineties kid, like in 95, when the Cowboys won at the year after the Niners, I think I was still too little. And then the rivalry sort of dissipated after that. Not dissipated, but in terms of their greatness against each other in the playoffs wasn't there anymore. The Cowboys went on their little run. 00:06:05 Speaker 4: Well, they weren't the cream of the crop in the NFC anymore. 00:06:07 Speaker 3: No, they weren't. 00:06:07 Speaker 2: Then here comes Brett Favre and three

straight MVPs and all that. You know what I mean? 00:06:10 Speaker 3: Exactly. 00:06:11 Speaker 2: For me, it was like, I don't like the Cowboys, but to me, it's kind of hilarious to me that they're viewed as this, and I understand why, but as this America's team and they're a legendary franchise, but the Steelers have had more success in my lifetime than than the Cowboys have. So I'm like, I can shock that the New York giants have had more success. The Packers in my mind have had more success. They've won multiple Superbowls in the time that I've been a fan. So while I look at the Cowboys as a rival, I'm also like, they're kind of the little brother to me in my mind. I don't really even concern myself with them. I got to deal with the Rams. I got to deal with the Seahawks. The giants bugged me just because of like, when I looked at history in what the Niners have run into, uh, New York football giants are an annoying thorn in the 80s Niner sides. Of course. And 90s Niner sides. 00:06:55 Speaker 3: Of course. 00:06:56 Speaker 2: Jeff Hostetler and all that, like the K-Gun offense, that they were able to shut down and Belichick there. That was all, because the Niners have to believe if they win that game against the Giants, they're winning that Super Bowl. 00:07:06 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Bills were good that year. 00:07:07 Speaker 2: The Bills were really, the first one, I guess you're right. But I guess more to my point is, I just don't really care all that much about the Cowboys. I'm like, who do they think they are? And as long as Jerry's there, I don't fear them. 00:07:17 Speaker 6: Right. 00:07:17 Speaker 2: I don't think they should be feared. 00:07:18 Speaker 4: They should not be because their owner gets in the way. But when you think about this rivalry, it's kind of just a historical rivalry. Like today, it doesn't really it's not close to the cream of the crop of the NFC and the Cowboys fancy themselves as a juggernaut. That's why they made all these moves. But in reality, it's because we remember the catch. Remember the 90s NFC championship games. This is kind of like if the Steelers and Raiders play today, they're not at the same level. Like, you know, like even like the Bills and Dolphins, that's a good division rivalry. Like, it was much more heated back in the day when it was Jim Kelly and Dan Marino. It still is a division rivalry, so that means something. Like, whenever these two teams that fought a lot in conference championship games or playoffs... If there's a good historical sense there, like, yeah, Niner fans today of a certain generation or kids today would say, I hate the Seahawks. 00:08:06 Speaker 2: Or I hate the Rams or the Patterns. How many calls we got about the Cowboys today? How many calls we get about the Raiders last week? 00:08:12 Speaker 7: Well. 00:08:12 Speaker 2: 808 KMBR 415. 00:08:15 Speaker 4: That's more of a Bay Area thing. 00:08:16 Speaker 2: Right, but that's kind of my point. We were hearing from Niner

fans about beating the Raiders and how important this was. Is this the same thing? Do you still feel the same way about this? Or no, because the Raiders left more recently. That's kind of the point we're making. So how about we phrase it like this? I can tell that nobody cares about the Cowboys rivalry because there's nobody who's called in. 808 KMBR, if you hate the Cowboys, who taught you to hate them? And then what I'd ask you is, what is your favorite 49er Cowboy game in history? 00:08:40 Speaker 5: Hmm. 00:08:41 Speaker 4: It's got to be 94. NFC Championship game. 00:08:43 Speaker 2: I mean, older fans are going to say 81, right? 00:08:46 Speaker 4: 81's fantastic. 00:08:47 Speaker 2: If you were alive for the catch, why wouldn't that be your number one? 00:08:50 Speaker 4: Okay, if you were alive for the catch, I understand that. 94, that's where things just swung in your favor. 00:08:54 Speaker 2: Because they got over the hump. 00:08:55 Speaker 4: They got over the hump, but like right away, Eric Davis with that pick six. Even Michael Irvin going off, I think he had like 10 catches close to 200 yards in that game. But still, the Niners dominated that game. It was kind of a laugh in the second half. 00:09:06 Speaker 2: By the way, Raph just walked to the phone. He looked at me and he shook his head. No, nobody's biting. Eh, whatever. 00:09:09 Speaker 4: Either way. 00:09:10 Speaker 2: He looked at me and he's like disappointed. 00:09:12 Speaker 4: There are different things going on in the world right now. 00:09:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, right. 00:09:14 Speaker 4: They try calling in and they just hang up. 00:09:16 Speaker 3: No, okay. 00:09:16 Speaker 5: It's fine. 00:09:16 Speaker 2: Anyway, KMBR sent over to call and text, if you hate the Cowboys, who taught you to hate them in your favorite Niner-Cowboy game? Yeah, I mean, like, for me, I'm still too young for that moment, but I do remember when Terrell Owens, as a 49er, went to the star, the center of the field, and put the football down. 00:09:30 Speaker 4: And even then, the Niners weren't fantastic. The Cowboys were coached by Dave Campo. But still, that was disrespect. That was where, I remember the next drive, Emmitt Smith scored, and he went to the center of the field and put the football down. He's like, you don't do that in our house. Then Terrell Owens did it again. 00:09:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, and then that's when he got hit. 00:09:47 Speaker 4: And George T. came over and knocked the crap out of him. 00:09:49 Speaker 2: Doing it a second time is so funny. 00:09:51 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. 00:09:52 Speaker 2: Everybody knows, because I feel like everybody only sees the one where he got hit. And people think he just ran and did that in the middle. 00:09:58 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no. 00:09:58 Speaker 8: He did it again. 00:09:58 Speaker 2: That was the second time in the game. game that he did it. 00:10:00 Speaker 4: He's a habitual line stepper twice. 00:10:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude.

I'm not, dude. As a habitual line stepper myself, I endorse. And George Teague, I mean, give him credit. Like, he was, like, not in our house, and he backed it up. But, like, that was dicey. 00:10:11 Speaker 4: I want to say Mooch. suspended Steve or a Terrell Owens the next week. Cause he didn't like that at all. But I think of that, I'm trying to like the, the, the playoff games in recent years with Kyle Shanahan and Debo Samuel, you know, the 23 to 17 victory where it ended with Dak Prescott, not spiking the ball in time. 00:10:28 Speaker 2: That was the one in Dallas. I love that one. Cause that's where, where Dak could, they didn't get the ball down in time. He threw to the middle of the field. He's running up to try to spike it. And even then the game was probably over anyway. Tries to spike it in the ref. That's because they weren't, I mean, they needed a touchdown, but that's the end of the game is one of my favorites. And then was it the following year? What year was that? Was that 23? 00:10:44 Speaker 4: That was 2021. That was 21. 00:10:46 Speaker 2: So then in 2022, Brock Purdy, second start, Brock Purdy, second start. And so the place he beats Seattle, right? 00:10:53 Speaker 4: He beats Seattle. 00:10:54 Speaker 2: And then he gets Dallas at home. And that's the one where Mike McCarthy runs out. Only Zeke Elliott on the O-line. 00:10:59 Speaker 3: Remember that? 00:11:00 Speaker 4: He blamed it on Kellen Moore. 00:11:01 Speaker 2: That was the dumbest play I've ever seen called. Zeke Elliott was the only guy on the offensive line. And then they snapped. I was like, what the hell is going on here? 00:11:09 Speaker 4: Second dumbest play I've ever seen. 00:11:11 Speaker 2: What was the dumbest? 00:11:11 Speaker 4: Remember the one the Colts were on a fake punt years ago against the New England Patriots with Pat McAfee? 00:11:16 Speaker 3: Oh, dude, yes. 00:11:17 Speaker 2: He's on the center and they hand it off. I was like, what the hell was that? That was a bad one. This one just looked stupider. 00:11:22 Speaker 4: No, it was terrible. It was absolutely terrible. But, like, yeah, the truth is there really is no rivalry today. Like, Jerry Jones thinks he's on the same level as the 49ers, and Troy Aikman's telling him, no, you're not. Like, he thinks that, let me just go out and I'll trade for Rashawn Gary and I'll go get Von Miller and, you know, right moves, but then he's cheap with the coaching staff. He's never going to win unless he gets a big-time coach or a guy that's... I guess competent, but like, again, like I don't think Brian Schoenheimer is that bad. It's just, he's just in over his head right now. And so is this defensive coordinator. 00:11:50 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:11:50 Speaker 4: So to me, there is no rivalry. It's just the significance of these two franchises playing against each other. 00:11:55 Speaker 2: I've always just say they have history. 00:11:57 Speaker 3: Of course. 00:11:58 Speaker 2: Nothing recently has been rivalry. No, but it's always fun. Rivalry has to go both ways. Yeah, but there's a historical sense to it. 00:12:05 Speaker 4: Like the reason that Tom Brady and Kevin Burkhardt are on this game, it's because Fox was all about Cowboys and 49ers for 30 years now. 00:12:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude. What's the, Cletus is out there catching touchdowns every week, dude. 00:12:14 Speaker 3: Of course. 00:12:15 Speaker 2: Of 49ers and Cowboys, bro. 808-KMBR is the number to call and the number to text. 510 says, a good thing they rolled out that AI air traffic control system yesterday. Gotta be a coincidence. 916 says, anytime you can beat the Cowboys with Jerry Jones as the hunter, it's great. He's the most obnoxious owner out there, and they kept us from two Super Bowls in 91 and 92. So he's not somebody who remembers that history. 805 says, it's always good to kick some ass out of the Cowboys. 530 says, as a fan since the catch at age seven. Dude, being seven years old for the catch. Talk about formulating a fandom, dude. 00:12:46 Speaker 4: Tom Brady was there for that. 00:12:47 Speaker 2: Seven years old for the catch. 49ers-Cowboys will always be a huge rivalry. This game reminds me of 1995 when Elvis Gerbach went in and the underdog 49ers against the powerhouse Dallas Cowboys, and they pulled off an upset, but this time the roles are reversed. Fingers crossed the Niners can take care of business despite being banged up in the secondary. 00:13:03 Speaker 4: Not to that extent. Like, I mean, they were down Elvis Gerbach here. Like, they still have Brock Purdy. They still have Christian McCaffrey and George Kittle. They'll score some points. 00:13:10 Speaker 2: No, that's his point. He's saying this time they're the powerhouse, and they're going up against the lowly Cowboys. He's saying— Yeah, you gotcha, you gotcha. Obviously, it's not Gerbeck. He's saying Niners weren't supposed to win that one, and Cowboys aren't supposed to win this one. Gotcha, gotcha. 707 says, I was supposed to be flying to L.A. to go to Disneyland with my family right now, but I'm getting my daily fix listening with the filth. Everything's going to be okay. Yeah, 707 it is. 00:13:29 Speaker 4: It will be okay. 00:13:30 Speaker 2: Hey, you know what? Just keep powering through. Anybody who's out there dealing with the airport or dealing with flight stuff, I got you. We're here for you. We're all doing the dirty work together right now. I know it's a pain, dude, but we got you. We'll try to make you laugh through the rest of this afternoon. What are those airport bars like right now? 00:13:42 Speaker 1: Oh, dude. 00:13:43 Speaker 4: That's got to be fun and also chaotic. 00:13:45 Speaker 2: Think about that airport Cinnabon, dude, that Greg would be sucking down. 00:13:48 Speaker 3: Good Lord. 00:13:49 Speaker 2: I guess I'll get another Cinnabon and an Orange Julius. 00:13:51 Speaker 4: Come on, all the stalls are... Come on. 00:13:53 Speaker 2: Get out of this emergency.

I've got a toilet to paint, don't you see? 408 says if it wasn't for the Cowboys in the 90s, the Niners would be the team of the 90s and they'd have like 10 Super Bowls. 00:14:04 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:14:05 Speaker 2: Could have been, yeah. 415 says, Dirty Work Plumber here with a 5 a.m. flight to Dallas tomorrow. These bozos better get it figured out. 00:14:11 Speaker 4: They will. 00:14:12 Speaker 2: Hey, you'll be all right. 00:14:12 Speaker 7: I'm hoping. 00:14:13 Speaker 2: You'll be all right. 00:14:13 Speaker 4: Bozos. 00:14:14 Speaker 2: 415, you'll be all right. 00:14:15 Speaker 3: I love that word. 00:14:15 Speaker 2: Dirty Work Plumber, dude. Appreciate the work you're doing. 808-KMBR is the number to call and text. And there are the Phil. Let's go to Jim, who's in Marin. 00:14:23 Speaker 4: Mar-Jim? 00:14:24 Speaker 2: No, it's just Jim in Marin. Jim, what's going on, man? You're on Esports Leader. 00:14:26 Speaker 4: You tried. 00:14:28 Speaker 7: Hi, guys. 00:14:29 Speaker 4: What's up, Jim? 00:14:30 Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on. 00:14:30 Speaker 6: My name's Jim from Marin. I had a comment about age and reacting to the 49ers. 00:14:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's hear it. 00:14:36 Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboys rivalry. 00:14:38 Speaker 5: Sure. 00:14:39 Speaker 6: You know, age is such a factor. I'm 70 now, and when I was a 13-year-old, I worked in a butcher shop, and when we lost those three playoff games in a row and my boss was a season ticket holder for Dallas, it was doomsday for us. When you're a 13-year-old and your team wins, loses three in a row and you never forgot it. Three playoffs in a row. And so it's the eight tractor. You were, one of you guys was born in 88 or 89. 00:15:04 Speaker 2: So I didn't, yeah, I didn't experience the, I didn't get the callous in that way. 00:15:09 Speaker 1: No. 00:15:10 Speaker 6: Well, when you're, it's so funny because when you're a 13 year old, it's, it's dreadful. And then by 80, you know, and it's dreadful every time. So you don't forget that. Obviously 81 was redemption. Some of the losses during the eighties were tough, but when you're a 13 year old, when you lose, it kind of ruins part of your childhood, you know, until 81 came. So I was just reacting to whatever age you are and a team beats you bad. you don't forget. 00:15:40 Speaker 2: I totally, I totally associate with that because I've said this too, as like, I'm actually, I'm grateful. I'm a diehard San Francisco giants fan, right? I was 13 years old in 2002 when they lose the world series. I'm grateful that I got to experience that level of pain before 2010, because it meant that much more to me than it felt like I was a part of a fan base that had been clamoring for that versus, I mean, if you're a kid who was born in, in 2003, you're seven in 2010. And all you've ever known is, Giants championships and 49ers Super Bowl appearances and Golden State Warrior titles. Like, I'm glad I got to build that character as a fan. I think that's exactly what you're talking about, Jim. 00:16:15 Speaker 6: You're dead on. Now, you're exactly right. I'll never forget that rally monkey. 00:16:19 Speaker 2: Oh, dude, it's a stupid thing now. I'm still pissed. Scott Spezio and that. 00:16:22 Speaker 5: Guy are still pissed. Yeah. 00:16:24 Speaker 6: So when you talk about the historic perspective, it's always, I think to me, the age factor. So I appreciate your show. I enjoy it. Thanks so much for having me on. 00:16:34 Speaker 2: Much love, Jim. Thank you so much. But that also goes into why I'm like, man, I can't stand Brett Favre, man. Like, dude, that's the guy who was like my nemesis as a kid. And then Jeff Garcia's got to go into Green Bay and try to deal with him. I'm like, I don't want to do this, man. He's out there running around, running around, slinging touchdowns. And then even after he won three straight MVPs, he had that one, like, 20 interception season. 00:16:54 Speaker 3: He did. 00:16:55 Speaker 2: Like, 31 touchdowns, 23 picks or something. 00:16:57 Speaker 4: You see, guys threw interceptions back in the day, Copes. Fred Favre was like Joe Namath. 00:17:01 Speaker 2: No, dude, no. Namath was way worse. 00:17:04 Speaker 3: Stop it. 00:17:04 Speaker 2: Favre's a way better quarterback than Namath ever hoped to be. 00:17:06 Speaker 4: He was, but still. He did a Raquel Welch. 00:17:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, then they were both creeps. You know what I mean? 00:17:13 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:17:14 Speaker 4: Well, Namath's not the same extent. You know what? 00:17:16 Speaker 2: They're exactly the same. No, Namath's not quite as bad. 00:17:18 Speaker 6: No. 00:17:18 Speaker 2: He didn't know how to work a cell phone camera. Joe and Lincoln, Brian and Chico, Jeff and Modesto, and Kevin in Houston. We will get to your calls. 808-KMBR-415-808-5627. Remember to call and text. By the way, Kevin in Houston is driving up to see the Niners and Cowboys in Dallas. 00:17:33 Speaker 5: Love to hear it. 00:17:34 Speaker 2: If you hate the Cowboys, who taught you to hate them? What made you hate them? And what is your favorite 49er Cowboy memory? We'll get to plenty more of your calls, and you can call your shot on the Niners and the Cowboys. Where's Edgar in New Jersey? I need to hear from him, too. 00:17:46 Speaker 3: Hey, come on now. 00:17:46 Speaker 2: I know he hates the boys. 00:17:48 Speaker 6: Oh, yeah. 00:17:48 Speaker 2: He's got to hate them. 00:17:49 Speaker 7: Come on now. 00:17:49 Speaker 2: Back in the day. Hey, come on now on the Sports Leader. 00:17:58 Speaker 1: Now back to Dirty Work with Copes and Depop on 104.5 FM and 680 AM, the sports leader. 00:18:06 Speaker 2: Dirty Work on a Friday. Adam Copeland, Depop, Raph Corral hanging out with you. I like this one, man. Gotta like, yeah. 00:18:14 Speaker 7: Raph. Ska. 00:18:17 Speaker 2: Raph, do you have a list down in front of you? You know where you're going next? Yeah, of course. 00:18:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. 00:18:20

Speaker 4: He always plays the same songs. Yeah, I do, I do. 00:18:22 Speaker 2: He plays the same ones. I don't like them, though. Yeah, because we agreed, like, there's, like, only nine. Yeah, I mean, like, yeah. 00:18:29 Speaker 4: There's only nine ska songs in the world. 00:18:31 Speaker 2: Do you know any ska yourself? You slap a little ska bass, Raph? 00:18:34 Speaker 4: I've never played in a ska band, but I'd love to. 00:18:36 Speaker 2: Sour Flower, Sour Flower, Sour Flowers. 00:18:38 Speaker 4: It kind of sounds like a ska band. It does, but we mostly play rock and some country and some pop. 00:18:44 Speaker 2: You've been in metal bands before, too, haven't you? 00:18:47 Speaker 4: I was in a metal punk band. 00:18:50 Speaker 3: That was fun. 00:18:50 Speaker 4: That was called Gaviotis. That was real fun. 00:18:53 Speaker 2: Oh, that's pretty sick, dude. Which genre of band that you've been in provides the most fun environment when you're playing? 00:19:01 Speaker 4: It's got to be punk metal. Like, you know, the crowd's always into it. 00:19:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, extra piercings and all that, dude. 00:19:07 Speaker 3: Right, right. 00:19:08 Speaker 2: Some leather and some straps. 00:19:09 Speaker 4: There's always a fight going on in the pit, you know. 00:19:12 Speaker 2: And you're into that, huh? 00:19:13 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I do. Raph's a fighter, not a lover. 00:19:16 Speaker 2: I watch. I don't like Dan Dunn. Dan Dunn's a lover, not a fighter. 00:19:20 Speaker 4: Only nine Ska songs in the world and 500 Matchbox 20 songs. 00:19:23 Speaker 2: It's incredible how that works. 808-KMBR is the number to call and the number to text. The question at hand here for Niner fans, we're discussing the merits of this rivalry still, and I'm going with the Roger Federer-Andy Roddick thing that I always tell you about, where Roddick was just getting his ass kicked by Federer over and over and over, and they asked him about the rivalry, And he had won a U.S. 00:19:41 Speaker 3: Open. 00:19:41 Speaker 2: He'd won some majors, and he'd beaten Federer a couple of times. But Federer then just streaked past him. They go, how about your rivalry with Roger Federer? He goes, I don't think you can call it a rivalry. until I win a few first. That's kind of how it feels as of late for the Cowboys. And, and sure enough, he became the greatest ever. 00:19:56 Speaker 4: I'll say it's kind of like a college rivalry where it's always going to be there. You're always going to have animosity for that team. It just may not be where you both are. You are at the same level at, you know, every single year in the NFL season. 00:20:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that. It doesn't matter what your records are. You want to be that team. 00:20:09 Speaker 4: You just see the Cowboys star, and you're like, God, screw those guys. 00:20:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I don't like that, dude. I'm thinking about T.O. 00:20:13 Speaker 3: Out there. 00:20:13 Speaker 2: I'm thinking I want George Kittle to pass T.O. for all-time nine of receiving yards this week. 00:20:17 Speaker 4: He's 82. 00:20:18 Speaker 2: Number two. He will become number two because ain't nobody catching Jerry. 00:20:21 Speaker 6: No. 00:20:22 Speaker 2: And then I want to see him pull the F. Dallas up and run to the middle of the star. Let's go to Joe and Lincoln. If you hate the Cowboys, who taught you? Was it a family member? Was it a member of the Cowboys? Was it a game itself? You're on the Sports Leader, Joe. 00:20:35 Speaker 3: What's up? Oh, hey. How you doing? 00:20:38 Speaker 2: Good, Joe. 00:20:38 Speaker 9: I was a little kid. Can you hear me? 00:20:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got you. 00:20:42 Speaker 10: Yeah, so I was a little kid. 00:20:43 Speaker 9: I was about six. I loved the Cowboys. Tony Dorsett, Tom Landry, Roger Starbuck before that, and then Danny Way. My dad took me to the Cache game, and the Cowboys lost. I remember driving home up the area, and I was kind of crying. 00:20:55 Speaker 7: I was sad. 00:20:56 Speaker 9: But that year they threw a big Super Bowl party on my birthday. The Niners won their first Super Bowl on my birthday. And then ever since then, the Cowboys just got real annoying with Michael Irvin and Jimmy Johnson. Easy to hate. So, I still hate Seattle more, though. 00:21:13 Speaker 2: I appreciate the call, Joe. Thanks so much. Dude, they won him a Super Bowl? And on his birthday. 00:21:17 Speaker 4: And on his birthday. 00:21:18 Speaker 3: How about that, dude? 00:21:18 Speaker 2: Just like Tim. And on his birthday. Yes, she said, I mean, Steve Young even admits, like, he had a poster of Roger Staubach on his wall. 00:21:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, if you were watching football in the 70s, it was Roger Staubach, it was Ken Stabler, it was Terry Bradshaw. So I get that. But then when you're a Niner, you, you know, put on the red and gold, you can't stand that team. 00:21:36 Speaker 2: You ever met Staubach? No, never. I've interviewed him at Army-Navy. 00:21:40 Speaker 3: Really? 00:21:40 Speaker 2: Twice. Yeah, pretty cool. 00:21:41 Speaker 4: Ever eat an ostrich burger? 00:21:44 Speaker 3: What? 00:21:45 Speaker 4: I've done that. 00:21:46 Speaker 7: What is it? 00:21:46 Speaker 2: Hold on. 00:21:48 Speaker 4: It's from Seinfeld. 00:21:51 Speaker 2: Oh, you're trying to one up me. Well, it was, I met Roger Stavros. 00:21:55 Speaker 4: Jerry says something to George Costanza. He's like, well, that's cool. Every day ostrich burger. Bet you haven't done that. 00:22:00 Speaker 2: No, you haven't. Uh, back out to the phone lines. Let's go to Brian and Chico talking Niners and boys. Brian, what's up, dude? You're on the sports leader. 00:22:08 Speaker 8: Hey, thanks for taking my call. 00:22:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, man. Of course. 00:22:11 Speaker 8: So I was seven years old when the catch happened. That's really the birth of my fandom. And then going through and getting to see all their Superbowl for the fan was

really special. But those nineties years, losing those two NFC championship games, the 94 NFC championship, and then finally overcoming the Cowboys. That's my favorite game of all time. Maybe above all the Superbowl wins. I mean, getting to see Steve young finally come through. And I feel like, If they get 92 and 93 championship years, I feel like if they get all three of those, Steve James and the conversation of Mount Rushmore of quarterbacks. So that's the year. And the Cowboys are always going to be number one rivalry for me above every other team just because that's where my fandom was born. 00:22:56 Speaker 5: Sure. 00:22:56 Speaker 2: That totally makes sense. Hey, Brian, who's your most hated Cowboy? Who's the guy? For me, dude, there's Dodgers I think about when I was a kid. There's dudes on certain teams. I'm like, I can't stand that guy, man. Who's the dude that did it for you? 00:23:07 Speaker 8: You know, between like Michael Irvin and, and I don't want to say Aikman, but Irvin and Charles Haley just going over there. And, and, and, you know, this game scares me a little bit because it reminds me of the 95 season when the 49ers were such underdogs going in with Elvis Gerbach and they ended up overcoming the odds and, and beating the Cowboys. So I'm a little concerned about the secondary bang that being banged up. I'm a little concerned about, about this game in particular. So, Thanks again for taking my call. 00:23:38 Speaker 2: Appreciate you, Brian. Thanks so much, man. 00:23:40 Speaker 4: No concerns. The coaching staff will have them figured out in this game, and I believe that Kyle Shanahan will find a way to score some points. 00:23:46 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this real quick. How many of the guys who we've talked about as being concerns about being questionable, Renardo Green, Upton Stout, Dre Greenlaw, of those three, how many are you expecting to show up? I think Greenlaw's going to play. 00:23:57 Speaker 4: I think Greenlaw's going to play. The most concerning one is Trent Williams. 00:24:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's something Kyle indicated happened yesterday at practice. 00:24:04 Speaker 5: Right. 00:24:04 Speaker 2: And he's at his shoulder. 00:24:05 Speaker 4: Any time... And it's kind of like a house of cards. Anytime that Trent Williams is out, the offensive line looks totally different. The whole thing shifts. So he needs to play. The secondary, it may be tough to cover them regardless. CeeDee Lamb and George Pickett. 00:24:17 Speaker 2: He's one of the best in the game. It's like him, JSN, and Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson are like the top guys. 00:24:23 Speaker 4: To his point, like with the significance of the 94 team, like I asked Steve Young this a year ago where it was like Josh Allen's going to make the postseason and Patrick Mahomes does not. If he wins a Super Bowl, is that less significant because he didn't play the Chiefs, your foe? Like that's something that Niner fans loved about Steve Young is

he beat the Dallas Cowboys. Peyton Manning beat Tom Brady. That's significant. And that's something you're always going to remember this rivalry that Joe Montana beat, you know, the Dallas Cowboys in 1981. And then, you know, years later, Steve Young doing the same exact thing. That means something to fans. And that's what holds, you know, that's the significance of the rivalry there. 00:24:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is funny. Would it mean less if the Niners won a Super Bowl not against Mahomes? No, of course not. But there would be something special about it. I know that that would be such a huge story if the Niners and Chiefs ended up in the bowl again. And three times that Shanahan's gone, it would be against the Chiefs. 00:25:16 Speaker 4: I want someone different. Of course you do. 00:25:17 Speaker 2: But I know that Niner fans also, that's a demon to your point about the Cowboys. Yeah, I get it. It takes me to a thing that, uh, do we still have him on the line? 00:25:25 Speaker 3: We're off. 00:25:26 Speaker 2: I think we can cut the call there. Uh, thanks Brian. I appreciate the call dude. I was like, dude, I hear voices here. I know. Um, the, uh, Murph always tells me a story or he's told a story before about after the Niners won their first Superbowl against the Bengals. Um, they were doing like some media tour in the off season somewhere. And I, Joe Montana was there giving a speech. and Roger Staubach was there sitting next to Sam Farmer, and Murph, his buddy, was with Sam Farmer, and he said the story is that Staubach leaned over to Farmer and said, who did these guys beat? Farmer said the Bengals, Cincinnati Bengals, and he says, yeah, why don't you try on the Steelers for size, huh? Like, it's sort of riffing, but also like... But they beat the Cowboys on the way there, though. Of course, but also what he's saying is like, yeah, I had to get past the steel curtain, dude. 00:26:07 Speaker 4: I still say the best piece of trash talk I've ever heard in my life is Joe Montana beating the 81 Cowboys. It had two tall Jones saying to Joe Montana... You just beat America's team. And Joe Montana says to him, well, you can watch the Super Bowl with America. 00:26:21 Speaker 2: With the rest of America then, yeah. Enjoy. Dude, let's go to Jeff in Modesto. What's up, Jeff? You're on the Sports Leader. Got you, Jeff? 00:26:31 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:26:31 Speaker 2: What's up, dude? Hey, what's up, Jeff? 00:26:35 Speaker 7: Well, I'm here to tell you why I hate the Cowboys. 00:26:37 Speaker 2: Can't wait. Can't wait. What you got for us? 00:26:39 Speaker 7: Mine goes, well, it goes back. This is kind of convoluted, but I was a Ram fan when I was a little kid in the 60s because I loved the fearsome, wholesome and Roman Gabriel. So I despise the Cowboys because that was a rival and the Vikings, who I hate now, too. 00:26:55 Speaker 6: But. 00:26:56 Speaker 3: I. 00:26:56 Speaker 7: Became a Niners fan in 1970 when I met John Brody, and that guy was so great to me, and it was awesome. So 72 is the one that really cemented my hatred for the Cowboys. I think it was 72. 00:27:09 Speaker 3: I was at the. 00:27:09 Speaker 7: Game at Candlestick when the Niners were up. I think they were up by 13 with about three minutes to go, and Staubach brought the Cowboys back to win the game, and it was disgusting. So that stuck with me as I was a young 13-year-old at the time. I know I'm out of the demographic, but that's all right. But it was, you know, and the hatred has continued. My favorite game by far was 81 without question because it was just such a tremendous. And I had to listen to that game on the radio. I was at work, but I wasn't working. And it was spectacular. And then again, like you guys were saying, when Young's team took him down, that was tremendous as well. But I do hate the Giants. No question. And I hate the Redskins. So it all goes with rivalries for the Niners, I think. And in my opinion, I think the Niners will take care of Dallas this weekend. And I think your point about the defensive backfield is valid. However, I think that the defensive line is going to make the difference in regards to that. I think they're going to put enough pressure on Prescott that he won't have the time to hit lamb and dissect the defensive backfield. 00:28:25 Speaker 2: Jeff, we got to run. I appreciate the call, man. Thanks so much, dude. I just love that it runs so deep because, again, if you really do hate, hate the Cowboys, it was either probably taught, and you're my age is what I'm saying, it was either taught to you by somebody who's a fan, a Niner fan from a previous generation, or you grew up with this rivalry, and that's why you're as rabid as you are. But that's why, like, again, I've said to you many times, dude, the most desperate fan in the Bay Area, I think, right now is the millennial 49er fan who like me who they won two they won in 89 and in 94 and i don't remember either of them so i've seen what three losses now in a row in the super bowl so if you're like that with me then you probably don't have as much hate directly for moments that affected the niners with the cowboys. 00:29:05 Speaker 4: No no but i know what he is right about this matchup where the secondary is banged up this defensive line has not got after the quarterback the last two weeks now the last two games by the way. 00:29:14 Speaker 2: They kill themselves every week they're the most penalized defense. 00:29:16 Speaker 4: In football You're talking about the Cowboys? 00:29:18 Speaker 2: The Cowboys are. Are you talking about the Niners? 00:29:20 Speaker 4: I'm talking about the Niners defensive line. 00:29:21 Speaker 2: Haven't hit the quarterback. 00:29:22 Speaker 7: They haven't. 00:29:23 Speaker 2: They hit Kirk, they didn't get a sack. 00:29:24 Speaker 4: Yes, but it needs to be where they can get after the quarterback a little bit. 00:29:27 Speaker 2: Where if they have a banged up secondary here, Osa Digizua back

in Dallas, DeForest Buckner, Nick Bosa, they need to wreak havoc on Dak Prescott. What's the best defense for stopping CeeDee Lamb? 00:29:37 Speaker 4: Knocking the crap out of the quarterback. 00:29:40 Speaker 2: The best way to counter not having every piece of your secondary? Getting to the quarterback. Pass rush. Let's go to Kevin. He's in Houston. Says he's driving up to go see the Niners and the boys. Kevin, you're on the Sports Leader. 00:29:49 Speaker 3: What's up, bro? 00:29:51 Speaker 8: Hey, guys. 00:29:51 Speaker 6: How you doing, man? 00:29:52 Speaker 10: I've been listening to you guys since I was like 15 years old, back in the. 00:29:55 Speaker 3: Razor and Mr. 00:29:55 Speaker 5: T days. 00:29:56 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, man. 00:29:57 Speaker 4: You and me both, bro. 00:29:58 Speaker 8: Yeah, I've been Yeah, I've been streaming you guys for 14 years since I moved to Houston. 00:30:03 Speaker 3: Much love. 00:30:04 Speaker 2: We appreciate you, Kevin. 00:30:05 Speaker 7: Love the show. 00:30:06 Speaker 2: Appreciate you. 00:30:07 Speaker 7: Check this out. 00:30:07 Speaker 10: I was actually at an airport two hours ago trying to fly to Dallas, but then I got nixed on that. Yeah, that ground stop is nuts. 00:30:17 Speaker 7: The airport is super, super crazy. 00:30:19 Speaker 10: There are so many people there just like totally lost, not sure what to do. But fortunately, I live 20 minutes from the airport, so I just left. 00:30:27 Speaker 7: Beautiful. 00:30:28 Speaker 10: And I left my luggage there. My luggage is going to get to Dallas without me, apparently. 00:30:33 Speaker 2: So you checked your bags, and so then you were going to go check your bags. You're like, screw this, dude. I'm not missing this game. So you got in a car, and you're driving to Dallas directly. You'll pick him up when you get there. I guess. 00:30:42 Speaker 10: I guess that's my plan, yeah. No, I got a buddy who lives out there, too. So when I get out there, I'm going to stay with him tonight and then go out and have fun, and then I'll pick up my luggage tomorrow sometime. 00:30:50 Speaker 8: But, yeah, it's nuts. 00:30:52 Speaker 10: But as far as the Cowboys-Niners rivalry– Uh, you know, I've, I've been a Niner fan all my life and, uh, you know, the, the, the, the Owens star game for sure is big, but the 22, 2022 playoff game is huge in my mind. I'm, I'm a huge rock birdie fan. So I love that. And, uh, I'm on my way up there. 00:31:10 Speaker 2: I can't wait. Hey, drive safe, brother. Best of luck to you, man. And stop, maybe get some extra underwear on the way, dude. You're going to want some clean ones. Well, he did. He checked his bags and they're like, your plane's not leaving. I might do the same as him and be like, well, if I can just drive, then I'm just going to leave my stuff. And if it gets on the plane and land, so what'll happen is like, if that plane flies, he'll just go pick it up from the airport. If it doesn't, then he'll just have to pick

it up at Houston when he gets back. All right, fair enough. It's not the end of the world, but you're going to need some socks, Holmes. 00:31:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're going to need them. 00:31:35 Speaker 2: By the way, somebody checked in 707 on the Golden State Lumber Insurance text line. I said, dude, if all the flights are grounded, how's Tim going to get to Tahoe? For those who don't remember, Tim Webb, our former producer on the Midday Shows now, he... He goes to Tahoe for March Madness every year, and he flew a couple years ago. We broke his balls for that one. 00:31:53 Speaker 4: Yes, he was. 00:31:54 Speaker 2: 808 came to us, a number to call and text. I saw you guys were waiting on the line. We had Ron and Ron. Ron Ture was on the line, a few others. We got to get to Marcus Thompson, but we will get back to your calls. We'd love to hear from more of you guys after we talk to Marcus Thompson on the 49ers and the Cowboys. Marcus Thompson, best sports writer in the country. He joins us next on the Sports Leader. 00:32:19 Speaker 1: Now, back to Dirty Work. Adam Copeland and Derek Papa in the KNBR Casino Matrix Progressive Jackpot Studios. Casino Matrix Progressive Jackpots are here. Where are you? Just drop in. Please play responsibly. Call 1-800-GAMBLER. 00:32:37 Speaker 2: Dirty Work on a Friday afternoon. Adam Copeland, D-Pop with you. The Warriors are in action tonight against the San Antonio Spurs in San Antonio. It's a cup game. How about that? On Amazon Prime and then the Niners and the Cowboys on Sunday. In Dallas, we can talk about all that with our next guest, Marcus Thompson, the best sports writer in the country of the athletic. Joins us on the UMA guest line. Marcus, what's going on, man? 00:32:58 Speaker 5: How are you? 00:32:58 Speaker 4: What up, Marcus? 00:33:00 Speaker 5: Oh, man, what a wonderful slate of games on Amazon Prime tonight, right? 00:33:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, dude. 00:33:04 Speaker 2: It's going to be great on Amazon Prime. Tell us all about it, man. NBA on Prime, baby. Hey, the production level that they give us, man, and the talent that they bring in. 00:33:12 Speaker 6: A-1. 00:33:15 Speaker 5: It's, you know, they don't get staffed, but it's an elite production of games, an elite broadcast, elite talent. 00:33:24 Speaker 3: On the air, and then the post-game show is incredible, right? Like, yeah, Amazon Prime is doing it. Check out your NBA on Prime. Am I fulfilling my obligations? I think so. 00:33:34 Speaker 2: So what time are you on? Yeah, what time are you on, Marcus, with the broadcast? 00:33:39 Speaker 4: It's a game-changing broadcast tonight. 00:33:42 Speaker 3: I'm actually not. I'm actually not on tonight, but, you know, it's all good. 00:33:48 Speaker 2: Well, dude, hey, all good, man. He's getting his liners in. Hey, by the way, I know you did the book signing over at the Book Passage at the Ferry Building the other night with Kendra Andrews. You were talking with John Lund about the stories you might get to tell. How'd that go, man? I was trying to get people out there for you and retweet that because the book is incredible. How did the book signing go? 00:34:09 Speaker 3: No, it was great. 00:34:09 Speaker 5: You know those book signings are a little– you just don't know who's showing up, right? I got there a little early. 00:34:16 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, oh, man. My dirty work got no pull. Nobody was here. 00:34:22 Speaker 2: Take a lap around the fairground a couple times, bro. 00:34:25 Speaker 5: You know, I had to go get something to eat, something to eat. I was like, okay, now. 00:34:30 Speaker 2: It was really good. 00:34:32 Speaker 5: Kendra Andrews did a great job. You know, some good questions there. Signed a lot of books. 00:34:38 Speaker 3: It was a really. 00:34:39 Speaker 5: Good moment, but ended up being a hit when they got to bring out more chairs than okay. 00:34:43 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:34:44 Speaker 2: I was like, all right, all right. 00:34:44 Speaker 3: Dirty work, dirty work. 00:34:45 Speaker 2: Got some clout. 00:34:46 Speaker 5: Your streets still listen to y'all. 00:34:48 Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. The streets still listen to y'all. 00:34:50 Speaker 4: Still haven't got that book though, Marcus. 00:34:51 Speaker 3: Uh, either way. 00:34:53 Speaker 4: Uh, so no book for me, no Steph Curry tonight for the Warriors and the Warriors did their classic PR statement where they're going to reevaluate Steph in two weeks. That said, because it's a brand new injury for Steph, is it safe to assume that we're probably not going to see him until 2027? 00:35:11 Speaker 5: That feels pretty long, and I think there's a lot at play. Some of this will depend on how they do without him. I think that's a pretty big deal. If they can hold serve, maybe they're a little bit more patient, but I think it's probably closer to a month. I could see Seth back for Christmas. 00:35:32 Speaker 3: He's 38. He just don't know. It's a new injury. 00:35:36 Speaker 5: We don't know how he responds, but The way he deals with injury and how great care he takes of himself and he's going to do everything that Rick Celebrini says, I don't know if he misses. 00:35:47 Speaker 3: Too much out of it, but it sounds like they're. 00:35:50 Speaker 5: Anticipating a month. So, you know, give or take, whatever. I know Christmas Day is going to be pretty important for a lot of people in the league, on the Warriors, right? And there's going to be some desire for him to play in that game. 00:36:07 Speaker 3: If he's close, I think he plays. 00:36:09 Speaker 5: Also, if he's out until January, that could be the season in many ways. So it does feel like there's going to be a little bit more urgency because they look so good with him in the lineup. This team looks ready. So a two-month absence would be brutal. But again, we just don't know how his body is going. 00:36:32 Speaker 3: To respond to this thing. 00:36:35 Speaker 2: I like you say, yeah,

Christmas Day is huge. Everybody who's anybody knows the NBA starts Christmas Day. 00:36:39 Speaker 7: Of course. 00:36:40 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? So NBA, huge for Christmas, huge for the NBA, huge for the Warriors, and huge for kids on the nice list, as you well know, Marcus. Marcus Thompson with us on the. 00:36:49 Speaker 5: The naughty ones get game changers. 00:36:53 Speaker 4: I guess that's me. 00:36:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys better be good or you're going to get game changers in your stock and a lump of game changers. 00:36:59 Speaker 3: You have to read for Christmas. 00:37:01 Speaker 2: Oh, man, I hate reading. Just give me socks, dude. 00:37:03 Speaker 5: Clothes. 00:37:04 Speaker 2: Socks or books, one of these. It's terrible. You know what my grandma used to say, man, from Birmingham, my great-grandma? who helped raise us. She used to come in on Christmas Eve. You know, kids can't sleep. You're all excited. 00:37:14 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:37:14 Speaker 2: You can't go to sleep. We'd be with our cousins. She'd come in. She'd be like, y'all better go to sleep now. Santa Claus is going to show up. He's going to put ashes in your eyelids. We were like, damn, man, not even lumps of coal is going to blind us. 00:37:24 Speaker 4: Ashes in the eyelids. 00:37:25 Speaker 3: Good God. 00:37:25 Speaker 2: She didn't play around, dude. 00:37:26 Speaker 3: Yo, that is. Crazy. That is the most country southern thing. Ashes in your eyelids? 00:37:33 Speaker 2: The great-granddaughter of slaves, dude. She was not messing around, dude. She was like, no, you're going to go to bed. 00:37:38 Speaker 3: Ashes in your eyelids. My goodness. Y'all wouldn't sleep like her. You wouldn't sleep immediately. You'd be on NyQuil, huh? 00:37:43 Speaker 5: You'd have grandma jinxes on you. 00:37:46 Speaker 2: That's it, man. Grandma smells in here. 00:37:48 Speaker 3: Boy, hush. 00:37:48 Speaker 2: It's your top lip. That's what she used to say. Grandma didn't mess around, man. Anyway, Marcus Thompson with us. What's the impact this is going to have on Yaxel's development? Because he's going to be asked to do a lot more, and we've seen him thrive even in moments where Steph isn't on the floor. But without Steph, I mean, all focus can be on him, right? 00:38:05 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a little bit– it should be a little bit nervous because he's going to get, like, the first team defense, right? He's going to get the focus of the opposing defense without the luxury of Steph. 00:38:20 Speaker 3: So now that's going to be a little bit harder. 00:38:23 Speaker 5: And against good teams, against good defenses, like the one they're facing tonight with Wimbinyama, it's really going to be tough for him to score. So the biggest part is going to be how he handles struggle. 00:38:37 Speaker 3: And his mindset. And he's got all the talent. He's got the tools. 00:38:42 Speaker 5: But he's in line for some tough nights just because he's the one who's got to– you know, face the music in order to open up for everything else. Now he's got to be aggressive and attack to create the opportunities for others. It is a very daunting task, right? It's why Steph is so great. Cause he does it every night, every year, like 18 years on now. 00:39:04 Speaker 3: And now he actually was in that spot. 00:39:06 Speaker 5: So how he, how he bounces back from rough nights, how he deals with the pressure and the constant attention and the lack of freedom is Like, that's going to go a long way. 00:39:16 Speaker 3: It's going to be fast. Like, it's early learning. It's quick. 00:39:21 Speaker 5: If it works well, this type of stuff that plays off when you get to the postseason and now you need somebody else to make a bucket, this is going to be great for him. But he's getting fast-tracked into being a premier. 00:39:30 Speaker 3: Scorer in the NBA. 00:39:32 Speaker 5: So as long as he handles the bumps and the bruises and the lumps and the rough nights and the 3-for-12s, he'll be fine and he'll learn how to score in. 00:39:41 Speaker 3: The NBA at a high level. 00:39:43 Speaker 2: So now when. 00:39:43 Speaker 5: Everything is back together, the Warriors will benefit from it. They just have to endure. 00:39:47 Speaker 4: Talking to Marcus Thompson on the UMA guest line. I remember a couple weeks ago, we were talking about Yaxel's comments, you know, opening night with Luke. You're talking about how the NBA is just very honest right now with this generation of players right now. And that made me think about Jordan Poole and the way that he was talking the other night. What'd you make of his comments where he was pretty honest about wanting to come back to the Warriors, where I know the Pelicans are a sinking ship. DeJounte Murray wants to leave that organization. But what'd you make of Jordan Poole and Draymond Green being very outspoken about maybe Jordan Poole coming back to the team? 00:40:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, man. 00:40:19 Speaker 5: I mean, Jordan Poole already looked like it was rough in them streets, right? Just seeing him out there. It's like, man, you know, Jordan is not a great defender, but man, he was even trying. 00:40:30 Speaker 3: It was like he gave up the ghost. 00:40:32 Speaker 5: It was like somebody put ashes on his eyelids. 00:40:34 Speaker 3: That's how bad. 00:40:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, hell yeah. 00:40:38 Speaker 3: That's how bad his defense was. 00:40:40 Speaker 5: But for him to say that, you can tell. I remember when he left and his vibe was more like, I'm going to show them they made a mistake. 00:40:47 Speaker 3: Right. 00:40:48 Speaker 5: And one of the things that you always heard from Steph and Draymond, and especially Andre Iguodala, is y'all don't understand the real NBA. Like, you are lucky to be here. You're lucky to be in the situation because the real NBA is. 00:41:02 Speaker 3: Not like this. 00:41:03 Speaker 5: And, you know, Jordan Poole looks like he's had too much real NBA. He's ready to come back to

something else. And the fact that he's willing to say that And to put that out there, and next year he'll be a free agent, and he's not going to get near the money he's gotten. So it just shows, like, hey, he's really kind of been forced to mature and reevaluate what he's about. So, like, the NBA is rough, man. These careers are hard, especially when you go from the Warriors to the Wizards to the Pelicans. I mean, that's a brutal one-two step. for anybody who's used to winning or used to being around winning. 00:41:45 Speaker 3: So it'll be interesting. I know Draymond was very. 00:41:47 Speaker 5: Happy about the idea because it's the big black mark on his career. And if somehow that could turn into a happy ending, it would diminish that black mark on his resume. So I know he was really, like you could tell, he was like, yeah, I'd take him back. 00:42:02 Speaker 3: In a heartbeat. 00:42:03 Speaker 5: But if Poole's mature enough to come back into this situation, that. 00:42:09 Speaker 3: Says a lot about him, actually. 00:42:11 Speaker 4: A couple more minutes with Marcus Thompson on the UMA guest line. Switching over to football, the 49ers made the move for Keenan Allen. They won't have Mike Evans this weekend, but there isn't a lot of youth amongst the receivers. Did you think Jordan Watkins' performance the last few weeks show you that the team has more confidence in him being the guy that can have those big explosive plays? 00:42:30 Speaker 3: I do. 00:42:30 Speaker 5: I do feel like Brock's faith in him says a lot, and the fact that he responded to that Like, I don't know if they think we've got, we don't need anything, but they have somebody, they have another option they could go to. So, you know, Keenan Allen, as you could tell, like Jordan Watkins is like, or Keenan Allen is more like an advanced version of what Jordan Watkins gets you. Somebody's going to get open. Somebody's going to run clean routes. Somebody's going to catch the ball. And he's got, he's just got the experience. But I thought they would probably want to go for a big game changer, like a number one. And obviously, you know, Garrett Wilson is on that list. It looked like Justin Jefferson was ready to walk out before they got Kirk. And so you were thinking big. At least I was thinking big for the 49ers. Like Brock Purdy, give him a big target. But it looks like, man, he just needs some reliable targets. And Jordan Watkins, after not holding on to that ball in Atlanta, he held on to that ball– you know, last week. 00:43:33 Speaker 3: Like, his life depended on it. 00:43:35 Speaker 5: And that was big. Like, he's telling Brock, you can come to me. I can make the big catches. And now they got another guy who's known for making big catches. It just shows you Brock doesn't need much, right? He doesn't need top of the world. Just give him some reliable options who can get open, somebody who knows what to do when he gets out of the pocket and he starts using his legs. And, you

know, Brock will get you there. They could feel really good about what Brock can do with not that much or not top-end talent like the rest of. 00:44:05 Speaker 3: The league has. 00:44:06 Speaker 2: Marcus Thompson with us on the UMA Guest Line. I remember, it must have been after last season, we had a conversation with you about the value of coaches in the NBA. We were talking about Steve Kerr and what the impact is of elite coaches on teams in the NBA. And then we started talking about, well, we had a discussion, Derek and I did on the show, about some comments Jerry Jones made the other day on a radio show where he said there's no correlation at all between top paid NFL coaches and success. And it's just, it's really just not even true. If you look at like Superbowl winning coaches over the years, now they haven't won since 95 with Barry Switzer. That's year two of the salary cap. He's not a guy that commits big money to coaches. We asked Kyle Shanahan about it. What is your thought on the value of coaches in the NFL and whether or not there's a correlation to success? 00:44:51 Speaker 5: I mean, there's a clear correlation and, I don't know if that always reflects in pay. If you go out and spend top dollar on a coach, it doesn't mean you're going to win. But who wins without great coaches? It just doesn't happen. The people who win championships as a coach, you end up being somebody who's probably going to the Hall of Fame. It's really hard to win a championship and people don't look. 00:45:17 Speaker 3: At you that way. 00:45:20 Speaker 5: Look at Mike Tomlin. Just hearing him talk about the game, the guy sounds like an absolute genius. Like as a broadcaster, like you can't you can't win without that mind somewhere on your franchise. I think it matters more because you're juggling three units, you know, 53 men. 00:45:38 Speaker 8: Right. 00:45:39 Speaker 5: And you're dealing with geniuses on the other side of the ball. 00:45:43 Speaker 3: Right. 00:45:43 Speaker 5: Like, you know, Spagnuolo and Shanahan like that. Like, he's got to joust with that guy. And sometimes that's not even the head coach you got to deal with. You got to deal with the head coach. You got to deal with the offensive coordinator and the defensive coordinator. A lot of these dudes are brilliant, and you have to be able to manage that. So, I mean, look, it's Jerry Jones, right? Yeah, right. 00:46:05 Speaker 2: Consider the source, right. 00:46:06 Speaker 5: It's what you say we don't want to pay, right? 00:46:08 Speaker 3: It's what you say we don't want to pay. 00:46:09 Speaker 5: But I would say the correlation may not be top dollar, get you, but top talent is what gets you there. 00:46:19 Speaker 3: Top talent is what gets you there. 00:46:22 Speaker 5: You need somebody who really knows what they're doing to win the Super Bowl. 00:46:26 Speaker 3: It's just way too hard. It's way too hard to win it. 00:46:31 Speaker 5: The people who do, it's because they have special coaches. Whether it's a defense coordinator, offense coordinator, head coach, somebody on that thing is special. You just can't go without an NBA. If you've got Mike, If you've got bronze, if you've got Steph, you're going to figure some things out. 00:46:49 Speaker 3: And you could get in the building, maybe. It's just easier. NFL, it doesn't feel possible. 00:46:55 Speaker 5: That's why this is about Kyle. 00:47:00 Speaker 3: All the players and all, it's about Kyle. 00:47:01 Speaker 5: This thing comes down to the 49ers two times. It's come down to the end of the game. And that's, yeah, sure, that's about making plays. But even if you go back to Cap and Crabtree, Like, that's people calling fades. Like, we ain't saying they lost because Baltimore was better. We like they lost the Super Bowl because they got addicted to the fade route. You know, it's like that's the difference is often like that. So I just completely disagree with him. Like, you got to have a great coach or a great coordinator. 00:47:34 Speaker 3: You got to have something. 00:47:36 Speaker 2: Marcus Thompson, the voice you hear on the UMA guest line, best sports writer in the country, joins us each and every week. Check out his new book, Game Changers, available wherever books are sold. Marcus, have a great weekend, man. We'll talk to you next week. 00:47:46 Speaker 3: Later, Marcus. All right. I got the next book signing next Friday. 00:47:51 Speaker 2: Where is it? 00:47:51 Speaker 3: At Books Inc. in Alameda. 00:47:53 Speaker 4: I'll be there. 00:47:54 Speaker 3: Next Friday, Books Inc. in Alameda. We're coming East Bay now. We're coming to our side. 00:47:59 Speaker 2: You're taking cash so Derek can get a book? 00:48:01 Speaker 3: November 20th. 00:48:01 Speaker 2: You take cash so Derek can get a book? 00:48:03 Speaker 4: Just be there until 630, and there you go. I'll Venmo you. 00:48:08 Speaker 3: All I need, I need quarters from Derek. It's got to be all quarters. 00:48:11 Speaker 1: All quarters? 00:48:11 Speaker 6: Gotcha. 00:48:11 Speaker 3: I want to take his slot machine money. 00:48:13 Speaker 4: That's my laundry money, Marcus Jesus. 00:48:17 Speaker 2: All right, Marcus, keep the ash out of your eyelids. 00:48:18 Speaker 5: Yeah, laundry money. 00:48:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, bro. 00:48:22 Speaker 3: Later, bro. 00:48:23 Speaker 1: Later, man. 00:48:23 Speaker 2: Marcus Thompson joins us each and every week. 00:48:26 Speaker 4: So your grandma goes, we'll put ash in your eyelids. 00:48:29 Speaker 2: No, she'd say Santa would. 00:48:30 Speaker 4: Oh, Santa would. 00:48:31 Speaker 2: Y'all don't go to sleep. Santa Claus is going to come in. You're awake. You're going to put ashes in your eyelids. 00:48:34 Speaker 4: Similar to Mike Tomlin, where we'll cut off your eyelids. 00:48:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike Tomlin said, you can't have blinkers on your team. You got to get rid of the blinkers. Cut your eyelids off, man. Cut the eyelids off the blinkers. 00:48:43 Speaker 3: Cut me, Mick. 00:48:44 Speaker 2: Which apparently is never anything that has ever happened in a boxing match. 00:48:48 Speaker 1: No. 00:48:48 Speaker 8: No. 00:48:49 Speaker 4: That was closer to Clayface, I guess, where they cut his eyelids open. 00:48:52 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see I Play Rocky so I can find out how he came up with that line. Dirty work on a Friday afternoon. Adam Koflin, Derek Papa with you. Raf Corral is hanging out with us. By the way, 450 Tim Ryan is going to join us. 515 Larry Kruger talking more about the Niners and the Dallas Cowboys. When we come on back, Derek goes back to the prop table. 00:49:10 Speaker 4: I thought you were going to say hot sauce. 00:49:12 Speaker 10: Not again. 00:49:12 Speaker 2: No, not today, dude. This is a little bit of piss-poor props. Derek takes a series of prop bets that I hand him for the weekend. Some players, some teams. and some individuals, and we get some funny notes out there, and we see what Derek thinks. He's had a pretty good record so far. We'll recap what happened in Week 9, and we'll get you some piss-poor props for Week 10 before we look at the Week 10 slate. Are planes in the air yet? 00:49:33 Speaker 3: Do we know? 00:49:34 Speaker 4: I don't think anything's changed. 00:49:35 Speaker 3: No updates? 00:49:36 Speaker 4: I think I'm keeping track of Texas football. They've gone back to campus. They should get on a bus at this point and just drive to Louisiana. They got to play LSU tomorrow. The football slate is looking weird for Saturday afternoons. I don't know what's up with some of these broadcasters. Come on now. 00:49:49 Speaker 2: How they're going to get there. Hey, come on now. 00:49:51 Speaker 4: Come on now. 00:49:51 Speaker 2: Come on now. 00:49:53 Speaker 4: Shark, let's go now. Shark, come on now. 00:49:55 Speaker 5: Come on. 00:49:55 Speaker 2: Let's go now, Shark. Let's get there now. Hey, San Jose Sharks, if they can get out by tonight, they should be okay for a 6 p.m. tomorrow against Utah. Don't want to have to fly and play that game and then come back for a, by the way, a back-to-back. They play Saturday and Sunday back here. 00:50:06 Speaker 4: AI, come on now. 00:50:07 Speaker 2: Against Nashville. We'll take a quick break. When we come on back, piss poor props. And then the week 10 slate dirty work Friday on the sports leader.