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Hi, my name is Pete Holmes.
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And I feel frustrated, but honored to be Conan O'Brien's friend.
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Yeah!
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Fall is here, hear the yell. Back to school, ring
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the bell. Brand new shoes, walking blues. Climb the fence,
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books and pens. I can tell that we are gonna
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be friends.
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I can tell that we are gonna be friends.
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Hey there, welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend It's
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pretty simple, this is the show where I, Conan O'Brien
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Talk to people in the business Celebrities I've interviewed over
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the years And try and find out, is it possible
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we could be real friends Not just fake showbiz pals
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Now I'm aided in my quest By my assistant, for
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now Sona Movsesian Hello Come on Sona, you know you're
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with me for the long haul Yeah.
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But it's hard to really believe that when you constantly
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keep talking about
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how my time's limited. You say that often.
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I like to dangle that because I think that will
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inspire you to greater heights.
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Do you think it's working?
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No, it is not.
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No, I don't think so either.
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I also want to give a shout out to my producer,
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Matt Gourley. Matt, how are you? I'm good.
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And I think because you don't threaten my job, it
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makes me actually worried that maybe it is a short
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tenure here.
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Yeah.
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Your replacement is standing behind you. Oh. His name is Phillip.
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Hi, Phil.
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I call you Gourley a lot. I don't know why.
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You might not like that.
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Oh, I like it just fine.
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Is it okay? I mean, I call you Matt. I
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have so many Matts in my life, but I only
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have one Gourley.
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Yeah, I'm your one Gourley. I don't like Matt anyway.
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All right, Gourley. Thanks for being here. You do a
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great job. Well, that's nice. I'm not sure that's true, but.
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No, it's true.
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Okay.
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I do think this podcast is doing very well. You're
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probably a big part of that. No, this is all
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you guys. Yeah.
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I'm just putting it through filters and shit. Okay.
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I don't think that's true. Gourley is the magic spice.
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He's the secret. He's the Colonel's secret recipe.
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We're all holding hands right now.
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No, no, we're not. That would violate company policy.
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I'm holding somebody's hand right now.
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You're just holding a severed hand.
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Oh, my God.
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Today I'm talking to someone I have a lot of
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admiration for. Pete Holmes. Pete Holmes. what I'm liking about
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this so far, and you've been doing this a long time,
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is that it's completely the way you and I would talk. Yes.
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Without any interference.
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Right.
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Without, and the show, do you feel like when you
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do the show that there's levels of interference or do
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you think that's getting close?
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The Conan show?
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Yeah, because you're quite relaxed on the show.
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Well, I really appreciate, it's one of the great thrills
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of my life that I've done your show enough times
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to be relaxed.
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Certainly the first time I was, you know, Jimmy and
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my Bridges.
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Trying to get some new frigs. A new phrase is going.
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Jimmy and my Bridges. Jimmy and my Bridges. Well, there
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was a kid in my neighborhood, Jimmy. Well, how do
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we know that? This is the type of.
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Narcissism I exhibit.
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I make jokes that I know you don't know. How
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could you do that? You just said, I'm Jimmy and
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my Bridges. And I was like, well, I feel stupid.
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Because that's clearly a classical reference to a Shakespearean drama.
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And then it turns out, no, Jimmy from my neighborhood.
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How could you not know that? It's all baloney.
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It was just fun words. My mom will do that though.
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A waiter will come.
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Like you and I will be talking about the bread.
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then the waiter will come who wasn't privy to that.
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And she'll be like, let's say we said the bread
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was dry. And then she's like, the waiter will say
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to my mom, you want some water? And she'll be like,
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what am I, the bread?
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To him.
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You know what I mean? Like, I'm always like, mom,
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he doesn't have the info. You're just a crazy person. Like,
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what am I, bread? What am I, oatmeal raisin bread? Yeah.
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And then?
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He calls an EMT and says, woman's having a stroke.
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A stroke does... No, let's not do stroke bits. Too
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many people having strokes.
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Really?
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I don't know. I'm going to keep doing them until
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I have one.
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No, it is a funny go-to, but I was going
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to say that a stroke kind of sounds... Like, it's
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a stroke. You stroke a cat.
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It's kind of nice.
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Nobody's like, hey, quit stroking my cat. You stroke a cat,
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or you stroke your gentleman lover.
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Okay, let me tell you something.
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Give him a stroke.
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If you're working on a new hunk, and I sense
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that's what you're doing... If you're going to do this
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stroke bit. No! You stroke a cat. What are you,
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stroke a? You stroke! A stroke, it sounds like such
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a nice thing, a stroke.
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Oh my God, it is a Seinfeld bit. You stroke
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a cat?
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Hey, I had a question. You stroke your boyfriend? This
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is a bit I've wanted to do for a while.
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You have a great idea.
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It's a stroke-a-genius.
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I forced it. Yeah, no, but here's the thing. Here's
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a bit that I want to work on, which is
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how are we going to know when Jerry Seinfeld has Alzheimer's?
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Hilarious.
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Because he's going to come out on stage and go,
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I just want to know who are these people?
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Matt.
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What is the deal with pizza? And people are going
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to first think that Jerry's working on, they're going to
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think he's working on new material. For at least 10 years.
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But then he's going to go, no, seriously, who are
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these people? Jerry, these are your loved ones. No, I'm scared.
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I'm lost in the corridors of my own mind. Who
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are these people? Jerry, Jerry, calm down. I'm terrified of
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everything around me. What is this thing? That's a window, Jerry.
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What is a window?
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And then it ends with, you look out, you see,
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it's a window.
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And then he goes, that was a bit. That one
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was a bit. You know what I mean? He does
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work one bit in there.
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That's how you close it. I call those playground bits
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where they're like, you have the premise. You can do
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it forever. But then, no, you have to have that
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chord that you pull. and then yeah I'm not telling
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you what to do I'm just saying it's nice to
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have that period what am I telling you what to do.
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No no I just did this 18 city tour and
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I have this hunk that I do up front and
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then I thought of that on the road and I
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was working it out in front of the comedians and
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they're like that's really funny but I never did it
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on stage because I thought I don't know yet but
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I've but it.
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Might be because you don't you didn't know where the
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court is yeah the end I wonder if real like
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vaudevillian showbiz is going to come back because we're all
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loose we're the podcast generation of comedy Where it's like,
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even your talk show, you can be transparent.
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People are like, yeah, we're seeing behind the curtain.
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I wonder if the curtain's going to make a comeback.
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If our kids' kids are going to be like, he
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came out, he's like John Mulaney. John Mulaney just does stand-up.
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John's not like, and that's how that one ends. He
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doesn't do that. He is a throwback. He's a throwback.
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And that's a high compliment. He's a very disciplined guy.
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Storyteller and joke teller, and he crafts his act in
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this way that's a little out of time for today because,
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and again, there are people that abuse the privilege. There
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are comics that have their shit together, and then there
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are ones that are very brilliant, but they kind of
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wallow in, I don't really know where this is going,
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and I, what am I really doing up here? And
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they comment on everything, and sometimes it goes too far.
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Of course.
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I think what we're talking
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like now that they know that we talk about bits
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in these ways, I can't speak for everybody, but some
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audiences like it.
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Like you go see Marc Maron, who's, you know, the penultimate.
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What does that mean?
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Penultimate is second to last. Well, I think he is. Well,
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now he is.
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The next one, it's over.
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I meant the consummate. podcast stand-up.
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No, he's the penumbra. I know what you're saying.
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He's the penumbra. He's Jimmy in his trousers.
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Yeah. No, he's the pneumatic. I know what you're saying.
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He's the Parasapopulus. I'm just going to say a lot.
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You're not Jimmy Parasapopulus! Oh, God, help us. This is
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a disaster.
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What I'm saying is when you watch him, 80% of
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it is just like, I don't know.
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And we love it. That's what makes it fun is
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that he's not doing, because he's not supposed to be
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doing what Mulaney's doing. Mulaney's doing what he's supposed to
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be doing. Marin's doing what he's supposed to be doing.
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I do wonder if your kid's kids will be like,
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he came out from the curtain and he said, good evening,
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ladies and gentlemen.
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You know what I mean?
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And we're sitting at lit up cocktail tables and we
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just want to show.
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Maybe that would be nice.
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Sometimes it is nice.
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I'm going to add some professionalism to this. We do
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have something in common. We're both from the Boston area.
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Yes.
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We're both tall.
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Yes.
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We are both bedeviled by our fathers. Come on, I've
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met your dad. Your dad's quite the character. That's my dad.
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I know. What?
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Ten minutes later.
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What?
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I'm going to go to Lindahl's Bakery and get me
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some Windsor cookies.
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What? Ten minutes later.
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I've never had a Windsor cookie.
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I only eat, what is it, cool?
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Kale?
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Cool ranch Cheerios. Well, this is the thing about your dad.
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I used to do an impression of him, and I
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thought it was a cruel... exaggerated impression and then I
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met him and it's really not that is an accurate
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were you a bystander and you were describing him to
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police and you weren't related to him that would be
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an accurate.
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Description a sloppy Peter Griffin type when you when I
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had the talk show that you did my dad was
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that you gave me my dad was in the audience
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and I was interviewing Rob Corddry my dad by the
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way wore a Red Sox jersey yep Tevas and he
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has like.
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I love my dad but he's got some fucked up
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feet His feet look like who, like when Luke Skywalker
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was in that pit that Jabba the Hutt put him
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in and the monster came out, they look like a Rancor.
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Rancor?
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Why would you even know?
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Rancor.
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Oh, good. Nerd in the corner. He's got Rancor feet.
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And he's like, I'm going to put these in Tevas
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so whatever's growing on them can get some air.
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And, you know, grow better.
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So he's got these nasty, mangled, kind of white, old man, Bostonian.
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Teva Rancor feet. At least tell me that he was
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in a war. He was never in a war.
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Oh.
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Never in a war.
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Because being in a war is the good out for everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I was in the war. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then
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you're out. Yeah. But no, his feet never saw action.
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Nope.
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So why are they, did they get dropped into machinery
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at some point?
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No, they're just, they grew weird. He has what's called
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a hammer toe.
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Oh.
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Not MC.
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Oh.
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Not MC.
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No one thought of MC.
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Everyone thought of MC.
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Not a person in this room. So your dad is- Oh,
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he's in the audience. I'm sorry. Yeah, he's in the audience.
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And I'm interviewing Rob Corgi. He's also wearing cargo shorts.
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So he's kind of thin chicken legs. He's got like
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Shrek body, Big Dad body.
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Sure.
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Chicken legs.
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Yep. And rancor feet. You basically, you know that game
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where you fold a piece of paper three times?
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Yes.
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And you draw the feet and then you hold it
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and then someone else not seeing the feet draws legs
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and then you pass it and then someone else draws the...
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The mid body and then the final person draws the
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head and then you unfold it and you all made
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a body together. You're saying that your dad is the
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product of that game. Exactly. Somebody got stoned and drew
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my dad with five friends. Right.
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And so I'm interviewing Rob Corddry.
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My mom and my brother both dressed up.
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My dad's dressed like he's just leaving, not even a
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baseball game, like a batting cage.
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Like he was hitting some balls. And I'm interviewing Rob Corddry,
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and I hear him.
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It made the show. He goes, who is this guy? What?
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Well, I'm interviewing, not that Rob's not T. Cruz, but
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I'm interviewing Rob Corddry. I'm telling the people.
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Who he is.
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Terry Cruz?
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Terry Cruz.
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Or Tom Cruz.
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Tommy Cruz.
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Okay, God, you abbreviate everything. So he was humiliating Rob Corddry.
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Yeah, and Rob Corddry- ran with it to hilarious effect.
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These clips are available on YouTube. I'm here to plug
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clips of our old talk show.
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You know what? They'll live on forever. That's the beautiful thing.
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Isn't that fun? Well, what happens too is you've gone on,
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you've had this other success. People know you.
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Yeah, a little bit.
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You're a well-established guy. So then they say, I like
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this Pete Holmes thing. And then they start looking and
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then people start posting your talk show, which was very funny.
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And so the work lives on.
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Well, TBS was very cool about it. They gave us
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a hard drive with all of it. They were very
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cool about it. And then Jeff Ross, your Jeff Ross.
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Yeah, pretty sweet. What's that fucking hat? You look like
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you're going to go mop up a bowling alley in
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the 1930s with Oprah Winfrey licking the rim of your butthole.
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Why you got that belt? You look like Santa Claus
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at the shopping mall. You're going to hang a six-shooter
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from there, Wyatt? More like Wyatt Burp. Look at this guy. Jesus.
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Comedian Jeffrey Ross never has to do a set again,
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because he can just play that with a tape recorder
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and hold it near his mouth. That was amazing. Do
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you think about comedian Jeffrey Ross a lot? No, not often. Okay, wow.
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That was amazing.
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I have tried to text your producer, Jeff Ross, and
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texted Jeff Ross, and I've tried to vice versa.
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Jeff Ross, my producer, shares a name with comedian Jeff Ross,
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and for years, Jeff Ross would get comedian Jeff Ross's mail. Yeah,
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all the time. And vice versa.
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Yeah, and I knew it wasn't him because he wasn't.
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Like, you fool! fat, lesbian, Val Kilmer looking. It was
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just like, hello, Pete. This is Jeff Ross. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I maintain my Jeff Ross, a producer of our show,
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not a fan of comedy. Sona, do you think that's possible?
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I think it is. Yeah. I think it is. He's
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a great producer. He sure is. I think one of
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the things, he is professional. He's an amazing producer. He's
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the only producer I ever want to work with. I
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suspect sometimes he is not a fan of comedy. Because
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I'll be saying, I think, some pretty funny stuff. He's like,
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let's just wrap it up. Let's go. Come on. Okay,
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enough kidding around. Enough with your jokes. Let's get on
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with the Conan show.
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He's an essential enzyme.
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Yes, he is an essential.
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If you're this, he's the thing that helps us digest that.
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Yes.
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Does that make sense?
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Yes.
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So he's like a porn producer that isn't into sex.
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He's just like, and then the breasts come out and
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then the ass is shimmering.
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Right.
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And it wiggles a little bit because people seem to
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like that.
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He is a porn producer who's not that into sex.
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That's what I mean.
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And I understand that they like the jiggling breasts.
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Right.
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He's just studying. And in that analogy, I am a
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male porn star with a massive penis.
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Yes, yes.
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Who is very good at sex. Maybe some say the
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best at sex ever.
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And sometimes in a rough spot would call in Andy
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Richter to help him finish.
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Andy's got a feather.
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Andy!
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Andy!
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I need fluffing! Andy, shove that feather up my ass!
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All right.
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You've completely derailed my podcast and I regret having it.
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No, you have not derailed anything. I, you know... Here's
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something I admire about you, Pete. Can I call you Pete?
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Is that okay?
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Is that all right? You're always insisting on Dr.
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Holmes.
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That's my brother's rap producer name. Is that true?
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No foolin'. Dr. Holmes 33.
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Wait, your brother's what? My brother, John Holmes.
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Make a joke.
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Go ahead, make a joke.
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Nope.
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My father also John Holmes.
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Yep.
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One of the things that he does is he produces
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beats for underground rappers, or he used to do it more.
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He might still do it, but you can look him up.
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He's a white guy from Boston.
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He's a white man from Boston.
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Yes, sir. And he produces beats for rappers.
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Yeah.
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And he's good at it. You know what he does?
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I think so.
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From what I can tell, it's certainly a hard game
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to get into.
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Now, is there anyone in your lineage that's got the
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comedy thing?
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My uncle Larry was hilarious. It was super, super funny.
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And my mom and my dad are funny, but nobody,
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they're like, my dad comes home filthy. And I think
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he likes that. He's got like an old.
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School, like you can tell, like my back hurts. Like
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he thinks that's great. My hands are so soft. I
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could massage a seal and it'd be like, mommy. Right.
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I think it was his mother.
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He knows you're a hard worker. He told me that.
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That's very sweet. He said, he said, he said, I'm
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not going to do your dad's accent, but he said,
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because it wouldn't sound right. But he said, I'll tell
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you one thing about Pete, no one can outwork him.
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Oh, that's very sweet.
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He said that about you.
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Again, he's projector.
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And he was telling, and I was like, yeah. Stop
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talking to me about Pete. I actually don't.
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Fully relate to that.
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I wonder how you are.
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I think I would.
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Well, you describe me, Sona. I think I'm a hard worker.
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You're a very hard worker.
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Yeah, Conan O'Brien can't stop.
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Yeah, and I'm very different from that. And that's how
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we clash a lot sometimes. It's not that I don't
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work hard. It's that I don't care
as.
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Much as you do. Right. I care so much about everything. Yeah.
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And can't... And then I get mad... because I care
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so much about everything, and I wish I didn't, and
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I try not to, but then I still care so much,
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and Sona has always been the voice of, eh, I
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didn't do it. Well, why didn't you do it? I
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don't know, I didn't care. And I'll be like, what?
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What do you mean you didn't care?
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Right.
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I think when I watch the documentary, Connor O'Brien Can't Stop,
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it does make me a little bit, it makes me
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a little bit sad, because I see myself in it.
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You know what I mean?
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That part of us that's always, sort of chasing the
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next thing or whatever. But you know, there's also part
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of me that's like, I think neither of us, because
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I relate more to that than to Sona, wouldn't trade it.
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You know what I mean? Like if you could turn
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it off, if there was a pill you could take.
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No, that's the thing. Well, that's the big question is,
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if there was a way to turn it off, I
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would turn it off and then quickly turn it back
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on again, you know? And so I'm always signing up
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for way too much work. than complaining that I have
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so much work.
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Yeah, I remember you saying that.
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To me too.
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And that is.
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You're like, when I'm making the show, I want to
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be on vacation. When I'm on vacation, I miss making
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the show. And I was like, oh, wow, that's haunting.
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It's a very haunting idea. Terrible way to live your life.
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But I don't know if it is because it's one
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of the cheaper fuels that runs the machine. And make
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no mistake, that work that sometimes we both dread has
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incredible highs. These incredible highs. It's the addiction to the
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highs and the lows. I think there's even a part
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of us, I can speak from my experience, that enjoys
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when I'm like, oh, you once said my job is
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putting my soul in the wood chipper of show business.
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And I think about that all the time. But there's
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a beautiful, it's almost like a French, like, appreciation for, like, Can.
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You see what they make us give?
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We kind of like it.
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Oh, no. That's the other thing, too, is that they're
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not making us give. That's right. That's right. It's a narrative.
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What comes back to me is there's this moment of
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real clarity. I think it's in the documentary, which I
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haven't watched in years. but there was this moment where
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I come backstage. Play it on the screen.
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Yeah.
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I come backstage and I'm complaining to my wife and
501
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I'm saying, they are making me do this and they
502
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are making me do that. And she said, there is
503
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no they. There's you. You're doing it. And I realized
504
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that that's the filmmaker who made that documentary called it
505
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Conan O'Brien Can't Stop. And when he told me that
506
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was the title, I honestly didn't know what he was
507
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talking about.
508
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Hilarious.
509
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And then saw the documentary and it was like, oh,
510
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it's this, you know, it's really strange to see a
511
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mirror held up to you that's that accurate. And not bad.
512
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I'm not, I didn't think I was, I'm, But it
513
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was just interesting. It was just interesting to see.
514
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I wonder if it's a New England thing. We were
515
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both probably raised.
516
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I've thought about this. You and I grew up in
517
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New England and it's dark and cold in the morning.
518
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And when you go out to go to school, the
519
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crappy car doesn't turn over because it's so cold. And
520
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it's dark and my mom is making us say Hail
521
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Mary so that the car will turn over. Ha! and
522
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she actually knew the name of the saint you're supposed
523
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to pray to who's good with cars, which is ridiculous,
524
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because all the saints existed 2,000 years ago, but there's
525
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like a Saint Marcus or something who's good with transmissions.
526
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And my mom would make us pray to that saint.
527
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This is great. And then the car would slowly turn over.
528
00:21:16.569 --> 00:21:20.920
And there's something about growing up like that. And I
529
00:21:20.930 --> 00:21:22.900
have thought to myself, what if you could take a
530
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Pete Holmes and a Conan O'Brien and recast them so
531
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that they're born in Santa Barbara. Yeah. And we surf.
532
00:21:32.490 --> 00:21:33.769
We walk barefoot to school.
533
00:21:33.789 --> 00:21:38.329
We walk barefoot. We chill. There's a lot of chilling.
534
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Would we maybe start smoking some weed? Is it possible
535
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that we would be different people? I always thought if
536
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I grew up in Southern California, Would I have had
537
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like a V-shaped torso and a girlfriend when I was 14?
538
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And would I have not had acne? And would I
539
00:21:56.190 --> 00:21:58.150
have just been this chill guy? And what would I
540
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be doing now?
541
00:21:59.970 --> 00:22:02.069
Well, I have pictures of me on the Cape and
542
00:22:02.130 --> 00:22:04.529
I was like blonde haired and I had a tan.
543
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Like I don't tan now. Like I was a little,
544
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I was svelte. I've been soft ever since. Like a
545
00:22:09.299 --> 00:22:13.420
svelte little boy. And I was like, maybe that's California Pete.
546
00:22:13.799 --> 00:22:15.359
But the question is, is California Pete funny?
547
00:22:15.380 --> 00:22:15.700
I don't know.
548
00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:19.369
I could see you on Venice Boulevard like- Not working out,
549
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but maybe giving surf lessons or something.
550
00:22:21.819 --> 00:22:23.559
No, but that wouldn't have worked either. My center of
551
00:22:23.579 --> 00:22:24.500
gravity is way too high.
552
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Me too.
553
00:22:24.839 --> 00:22:27.420
I've got a disproportionate body. All of us tall people.
554
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But I have wondered that. There's a New England thing.
555
00:22:31.440 --> 00:22:33.589
And look at all the New England comics, the real
556
00:22:33.670 --> 00:22:37.130
club comics. Yeah. You know, that it's so harsh.
557
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I know.
558
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They're really funny. Yeah. But it's... Everything's fucked up.
559
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It's a product of roads that were designed for horse
560
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and buggy. We had dinner one time around Christmas in
561
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downtown Boston. That's what I love.
562
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That's a new Boston.
563
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Because that's not the Boston you and I grew up with.
564
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That's what I mean. We didn't go downtown and eat
565
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in a fancy restaurant when I was a kid. That's right.
566
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We went to a place called Tony's Italian Villa on
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Route 9. And now I know that is not an
568
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Italian restaurant. But that's where we went. And we each
569
00:23:09.059 --> 00:23:11.400
got to have one soda and that was it. And
570
00:23:11.420 --> 00:23:14.480
my brother Neil always tricked me into drinking mine really quickly.
571
00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:17.180
He'd go, let's have a race. And then I would
572
00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:18.920
drink mine really fast and he wouldn't drink his at all.
573
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And then he'd laugh at me the rest of the meal.
574
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Oh my Jesus, if ever I loved me.
575
00:23:29.579 --> 00:23:32.099
And now it's time for a segment called Conan O'Brien
576
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pays off the mortgage on his beach house.
577
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Yes. I believe in being honest with people. Took out
578
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a big mortgage, then borrowed against that mortgage, then borrowed
579
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against it again. Mistake. But I'm an adult and I'm
580
00:23:45.009 --> 00:23:47.069
going to pay down that mortgage. And we're going to
581
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take care of that right now.
582
00:23:49.849 --> 00:23:50.670
How was school today?
583
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Ah, you know, football training, lunch with the lads.
584
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Oh, and I have that art project to finish.
585
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We all know that school days are filled with learning,
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social development and fun. But one in five young people
587
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are missing a month or more of their school year.
588
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And when they miss school, they miss out. Which can
589
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impact exam results and well-being later on. Every school day
590
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is a new day. Visit gov.ie forward slash school attendance.
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An initiative of the Government of Ireland.
592
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There's some hidden little chip in us that makes us
593
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We know, we don't consciously know it, but subconsciously we
594
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know we're not staying here.
595
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Yeah.
596
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That's how I felt about Massachusetts. Me too. And a
597
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lot of my family stayed there.
598
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All of them.
599
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And when I go home, I don't feel like, ah, Boston.
600
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That's right.
601
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My old home. I like Boston. I really love Boston.
602
00:24:45.380 --> 00:24:47.359
I love the people there. It doesn't feel like home.
603
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And in fact, New York never felt like home. I
604
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don't know where my home is.
605
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I'm totally with you. I think there's a feeling of restlessness.
606
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I said to my family, we're kind of rough with
607
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each other. So they came to see the family.
608
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It's loving.
609
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But they came to see the baby and they're just
610
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sort of a nightmare. It's a nightmare situation. I told
611
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the story on Kimmel, but my mom came in and
612
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was like, the first thing she said was, we.
613
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Got you a book for Lila. We got her a book,
614
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but we left it in a diner in Pasadena. Will
615
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you go get it? And I was like, fucking no. Yeah. No,
616
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that's not a gift. That's an errand.
617
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We have a baby. You're supposed to like help.
618
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So anyway, they're kind of nightmares. And I said to them,
619
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if there.
620
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Was show business in Hawaii, I'd be in Hawaii.
621
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You know what I mean?
622
00:25:28.730 --> 00:25:31.069
I was like, if I could go further. But there's
623
00:25:31.109 --> 00:25:33.869
something that sounds cruel and I don't care. I could
624
00:25:33.890 --> 00:25:35.529
explain to you how we love each other. No, no.
625
00:25:35.670 --> 00:25:39.339
I understand that you can. I want to get away.
626
00:25:39.599 --> 00:25:42.079
I understand that you can love your family and they
627
00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:44.960
can also drive you crazy. That's right. I think we
628
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can all. Sona, you can relate to that. Yes. Gorley,
629
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I don't know what your situation is.
630
00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:50.319
Of course, of course.
631
00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:52.079
But I want you in this conversation.
632
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Thanks.
633
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You love your parents. Certainly. And your family.
634
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Dearly.
635
00:25:55.609 --> 00:25:59.069
Dearly, but you also, I mean, you're routinely telling me
636
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how much you also despise all of them. Off mic, yeah.
637
00:26:02.980 --> 00:26:03.460
Off mic.
638
00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:04.359
On a flow chart.
639
00:26:04.579 --> 00:26:06.920
He's constantly writing notes and passing them over to me during,
640
00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:09.940
I despise slash love my family. And I'm like, you
641
00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:11.160
know what? I'm trying to work here.
642
00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:12.500
You know what my therapist says?
643
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Just hit me.
644
00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:15.960
He says, hate your parents well, which I think is really,
645
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like do it intelligently and do it graciously and lovingly.
646
00:26:20.369 --> 00:26:22.309
And there is a way to sort of be like, yeah,
647
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I don't, I love you. That doesn't mean I like
648
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everything about you.
649
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I also tell my, my wife is a terrific, uh,
650
00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:33.279
terrific mom. She's great. And she's always, yeah, she puts
651
00:26:33.339 --> 00:26:36.119
so much effort and thought and love into, into being
652
00:26:36.740 --> 00:26:39.809
a mom. And I'll always remind her, remember, they're going
653
00:26:39.829 --> 00:26:43.009
to go to therapy and they're going to complain about us. Yeah.
654
00:26:43.500 --> 00:26:47.839
We can base this turkey with love every five seconds,
655
00:26:48.539 --> 00:26:50.549
but the turkey, when it's finally done, is gonna go like,
656
00:26:50.569 --> 00:26:50.960
you know.
657
00:26:51.529 --> 00:26:54.569
As a naive new parent, and I'll concede that that
658
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might be what I am.
659
00:26:55.470 --> 00:26:58.789
You're very early in the process. I'm very early. How
660
00:26:58.829 --> 00:27:00.549
far along are you? How old?
661
00:27:00.630 --> 00:27:01.670
She's two and a half months.
662
00:27:01.759 --> 00:27:03.500
She's two and a half months, right? Because you brought
663
00:27:03.539 --> 00:27:07.259
her to the show seconds after she was born, which
664
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:08.519
actually blew my mind.
665
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:12.140
She was delivered in Jimmy Vivino's dressing room.
666
00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:12.480
Yeah.
667
00:27:12.539 --> 00:27:13.579
You came to the show and I was like, I
668
00:27:13.619 --> 00:27:16.359
can't believe you're doing this show because your wife just
669
00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:18.920
gave birth. We didn't know what people meant. And you said,
670
00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:23.299
what do you mean? She's backstage. And I walked into
671
00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:25.380
the dressing room and your wife threw the baby at me.
672
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:28.920
She said, catch, catch.
673
00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:29.930
And....
674
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:33.640
It was very scarring for everyone, but- Well.
675
00:27:33.660 --> 00:27:35.990
We didn't know that when people say like, don't do that,
676
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they mean that you're going to get your baby sick.
677
00:27:37.710 --> 00:27:37.910
Yeah.
678
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Because
then we took our baby to Maui to see
679
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Ram Dass because I wanted her to- Ram Dass is
680
00:27:44.380 --> 00:27:48.759
my- teacher, I guess we could say, who's also from Boston.
681
00:27:48.940 --> 00:27:49.640
He's from Newton.
682
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And I have a lot in common with him because
683
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of that, I feel. Anyway, I wanted her to meet him,
684
00:27:54.829 --> 00:27:58.130
and she got a cold. And we were like, oh.
685
00:27:58.210 --> 00:27:59.819
When people are like, you make all your mistakes with
686
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the first one, I was like, that's what they mean,
687
00:28:01.740 --> 00:28:03.900
is we're on a plane, everyone's coughing. We get to
688
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:07.079
the retreat, everyone has like, literally people had pneumonia and
689
00:28:07.099 --> 00:28:09.539
bronchitis and we're like, oh, we'll be in the room.
690
00:28:09.779 --> 00:28:11.900
Like we just, we fucked up. Then like one day
691
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:14.140
she got too much sun on one side of her face.
692
00:28:14.460 --> 00:28:16.480
But something I noticed, I don't know.
693
00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:18.339
You're terrible parents, I'm realizing. We're terrible parents.
694
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:21.400
We need the baby taken away. But it wasn't a sunburn.
695
00:28:21.420 --> 00:28:23.420
It was just like enough that it was like. We
696
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:26.930
thought she should go to a tubercular ward. We thought
697
00:28:26.970 --> 00:28:30.930
she should see where tuberculosis is cured. So she was
698
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about a day.
699
00:28:31.569 --> 00:28:34.549
Old and we took her to show her what tuberculosis was.
700
00:28:35.789 --> 00:28:36.289
Who knows?
701
00:28:36.329 --> 00:28:39.519
You make those mistakes with the first one. You learn.
702
00:28:41.220 --> 00:28:43.160
Val felt horrible.
703
00:28:43.859 --> 00:28:48.480
I noticed a naturally occurring insurgence of what I call
704
00:28:48.500 --> 00:28:52.180
dad energy. Women can have dad energy too, obviously. And
705
00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:54.440
I can have mom energy, but I started having like
706
00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:56.359
that dad, like, she'll be fine.
707
00:28:56.619 --> 00:28:57.359
And I meant it.
708
00:28:57.720 --> 00:28:58.720
Like she got.
709
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More nervous than she normally did. And I got more
710
00:29:02.259 --> 00:29:04.700
self-assured that everything's going to be fine. And I was like,
711
00:29:05.049 --> 00:29:07.769
oh my God, we're yinning each other's yangs right now.
712
00:29:08.150 --> 00:29:10.390
And nobody asked for it. I didn't read any book
713
00:29:10.470 --> 00:29:10.869
about it.
714
00:29:10.869 --> 00:29:13.269
No, but that's exactly what you do. It's what happens, right?
715
00:29:13.630 --> 00:29:17.049
If your wife was super chill, you would freak out.
716
00:29:17.069 --> 00:29:18.710
That's right. You know what? We're going to have to
717
00:29:18.730 --> 00:29:20.930
take a break. Wrap up. We've talked for, yeah, we've
718
00:29:20.950 --> 00:29:22.259
got to wrap up. How long has it been?
719
00:29:22.500 --> 00:29:23.599
It's been close to an hour.
720
00:29:23.859 --> 00:29:24.799
Jesus Christ.
721
00:29:24.819 --> 00:29:26.319
I'm just letting you guys roll.
722
00:29:26.539 --> 00:29:27.160
The fuck?
723
00:29:27.660 --> 00:29:29.759
I don't know much about this guy, but. All I've
724
00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:31.400
seen him do is try to put this show in
725
00:29:31.440 --> 00:29:31.940
a box.
726
00:29:33.170 --> 00:29:36.609
You can't contain this. I'm lightning and he's the bottle.
727
00:29:36.650 --> 00:29:37.789
Yeah, we're yinning and yanging.
728
00:29:37.809 --> 00:29:43.059
I'm father energy, he's mother energy. energy. I'm gonna pay
729
00:29:43.099 --> 00:29:43.779
you a compliment.
730
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:44.519
Oh, I would love it.
731
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:48.119
Not right now. Several years from now, you're gonna get
732
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:50.220
a letter and it's gonna have a compliment that's just
733
00:29:50.269 --> 00:29:55.210
gonna say, you dress well. It's gonna be much less
734
00:29:55.250 --> 00:29:56.410
than what you thought you were gonna get. That is
735
00:29:56.430 --> 00:29:58.549
so not true. And you don't. And it's gonna be
736
00:29:58.569 --> 00:30:01.299
in quotes, so you know it's not true. No, you
737
00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:04.539
know what I like is that you, there is a
738
00:30:06.339 --> 00:30:11.640
very popular vein in comedy, which is the comedian that
739
00:30:11.660 --> 00:30:16.579
is very unhappy and miserable. And I've always liked that
740
00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:19.059
you don't mind that vein. Do you know what I mean?
741
00:30:19.099 --> 00:30:24.890
That you, and there's some other, Ron Funches also, Talks
742
00:30:24.950 --> 00:30:28.450
about things that make him happy. Cinnamon angel? Yeah. But
743
00:30:28.470 --> 00:30:30.190
he talks about things that give him happiness. And I
744
00:30:30.230 --> 00:30:34.559
think you're the same school, which I actually credit. I
745
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:39.359
think that is a harder path to take. It's a
746
00:30:39.420 --> 00:30:43.720
more original or fresher path to take because I weary
747
00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:46.029
over the years of the people that come out and
748
00:30:46.049 --> 00:30:47.869
they just tell you over and over and over again.
749
00:30:47.890 --> 00:30:50.690
How the world's sick. How I'm sick. Something's wrong with me.
750
00:30:50.769 --> 00:30:56.359
I'm bad. I'm neurotic. And I'm a disease and I
751
00:30:56.390 --> 00:30:58.319
don't know. I weary of that.
752
00:30:58.940 --> 00:30:59.839
I appreciate that.
753
00:30:59.940 --> 00:31:04.259
When you're starting in the clubs, it's 90%, 95 maybe,
754
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:05.259
just like.
755
00:31:05.619 --> 00:31:07.500
And I got up
there and I punched him in
756
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:07.980
the face.
757
00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:09.920
And then I realized it was a woman. It was
758
00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:12.220
my mother. And people are like, oh.
759
00:31:12.609 --> 00:31:14.950
And then you have to go up and be like, Kleenex.
760
00:31:15.349 --> 00:31:17.230
It used to be facial tissue. Now it's Kleenex.
761
00:31:17.250 --> 00:31:21.109
You know, like it's hard, but I'm so grateful that like,
762
00:31:21.509 --> 00:31:27.119
the taste of comedy consumers shifted towards the positive. And
763
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:31.660
that started happening. You pioneered that in a huge way
764
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:35.519
and made a space for people like me that want
765
00:31:35.539 --> 00:31:37.460
to be silly, that don't want to be like, and
766
00:31:37.539 --> 00:31:39.740
I said, Babu, my partner. Why am I doing it
767
00:31:39.819 --> 00:31:40.500
like that voice?
768
00:31:40.539 --> 00:31:42.140
You know what I'm saying? It doesn't have to be
769
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:43.059
against anybody.
770
00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:46.269
And I appreciate that. Well, you know what's interesting to
771
00:31:46.309 --> 00:31:48.170
me is that it's that I think there's a lot
772
00:31:48.190 --> 00:31:52.910
of people that conflate negativity with quote, the truth.
773
00:31:53.170 --> 00:31:53.349
Yeah.
774
00:31:53.890 --> 00:31:56.630
So it's that whole school of if you're being negative.
775
00:31:56.890 --> 00:32:00.779
That's right. And you're saying dark things, you're telling the truth.
776
00:32:01.099 --> 00:32:06.119
That's right. And if you're not, if your comedy isn't
777
00:32:06.220 --> 00:32:09.940
right now, railing against what's happening in our country and
778
00:32:10.059 --> 00:32:14.720
railing about, you know, who's president and what's, you know, happening,
779
00:32:15.380 --> 00:32:18.500
then you're escapist and you're not handling the truth. And
780
00:32:18.539 --> 00:32:22.130
I think, I don't, I don't think I agree with that.
781
00:32:22.150 --> 00:32:23.890
I don't think I agree with that. I think it's
782
00:32:23.970 --> 00:32:28.950
possible to be present in this world, understand that not
783
00:32:29.049 --> 00:32:32.130
all is right with the world, and then try to find...
784
00:32:31.809 --> 00:32:34.950
We're back at the dinner table. Try to find the silliness.
785
00:32:35.130 --> 00:32:35.769
That's right.
786
00:32:36.049 --> 00:32:39.670
There are people that confuse being sarcastic with having a
787
00:32:39.710 --> 00:32:43.059
personality or hating everything as having a personality.
788
00:32:43.099 --> 00:32:45.259
This is a real epidemic. You'll see in people's Twitter bios,
789
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:48.069
it says like, Sarcasm is just one of the many
790
00:32:48.210 --> 00:32:49.569
services I offer.
791
00:32:49.589 --> 00:32:51.609
It's like, you're in the way, Beth.
792
00:32:52.289 --> 00:32:53.769
You don't have to do those things.
793
00:32:54.829 --> 00:32:57.390
Bless you. I hope we got that on, that was
794
00:32:57.410 --> 00:32:57.750
a good one.
795
00:32:57.829 --> 00:33:00.150
We can sell that. We can get money for that.
796
00:33:00.539 --> 00:33:05.450
Yeah. You sneezing a lot lately? Use nasal tracks. I
797
00:33:05.470 --> 00:33:06.730
just made up that product. Now we have to go
798
00:33:06.849 --> 00:33:09.069
find a company and make them get that name. Isn't
799
00:33:09.089 --> 00:33:09.549
that fun?
800
00:33:09.809 --> 00:33:12.630
It's a podcast. You can sing, believe it or not.
801
00:33:12.730 --> 00:33:13.589
You don't have to pay for this.
802
00:33:13.670 --> 00:33:14.490
Oh, is that true?
803
00:33:14.769 --> 00:33:15.109
No.
804
00:33:15.630 --> 00:33:18.730
Charles in charge of our days and our nights. Yes.
805
00:33:18.950 --> 00:33:21.259
It's like when your final show is The Tonight Show.
806
00:33:21.299 --> 00:33:22.960
You can do the most expensive show ever.
807
00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:24.119
Nobody's ever going to care.
808
00:33:24.779 --> 00:33:26.819
You found out you couldn't pay for a song, so
809
00:33:26.859 --> 00:33:27.380
you sang.
810
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:30.339
The Charles in charge thing. You could have sang anything.
811
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:32.200
You know what I did? It's also not true. You
812
00:33:32.220 --> 00:33:35.019
know what? What? Yes, it is. Not here.
813
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:38.079
I understand it is with yours, but it is not here.
814
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:40.009
And I'm not condoning that.
815
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:40.809
I say do it.
816
00:33:40.900 --> 00:33:41.410
Crawl.
817
00:33:41.430 --> 00:33:43.710
No. You had me for a second thinking I could
818
00:33:43.750 --> 00:33:46.970
sing all of Led Zeppelin, the most expensive catalog next
819
00:33:47.009 --> 00:33:47.710
to the Beatles.
820
00:33:47.869 --> 00:33:50.690
You think if we sing Led Zeppelin, you're going to
821
00:33:50.730 --> 00:33:51.190
get a letter?
822
00:33:51.609 --> 00:33:53.940
No, but I think that the people in this corporation
823
00:33:54.259 --> 00:33:57.599
will have words. I say fan that fire. Go for it.
824
00:33:57.940 --> 00:34:00.680
I'll do it with you. You need cooling. Baby, I'm
825
00:34:00.700 --> 00:34:05.339
not fooling. Want to send you back to schooling. We're
826
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:09.039
down inside. Give me your, give me your love.
827
00:34:16.019 --> 00:34:26.050
Now, fortunately, I sing it so strangely.
828
00:34:26.070 --> 00:34:30.250
Yeah, that melody is... That... Charles in charge of our
829
00:34:30.289 --> 00:34:34.170
days and our nights. Charles in charge of our wrongs
830
00:34:34.530 --> 00:34:38.429
and our rights. I want Charles in charge of me.
831
00:34:38.869 --> 00:34:40.070
What a weird song.
832
00:34:40.219 --> 00:34:40.389
Ha ha!
833
00:34:41.150 --> 00:34:41.429
Yeah.
834
00:34:41.570 --> 00:34:44.050
Why is he in charge of our wrongs.
835
00:34:43.750 -->
00:34:44.110
And our rights?
836
00:34:44.139 --> 00:34:48.639
It doesn't age well. What a terrible song. Anyway, there's
837
00:34:48.699 --> 00:34:51.300
no better way to get out on a podcast than
838
00:34:51.340 --> 00:34:54.889
me singing a song that Earwolf isn't gonna let come through. No,
839
00:34:54.889 --> 00:34:57.409
it's going on. It's gonna go. No one's gonna come
840
00:34:57.489 --> 00:34:59.050
after us for the Charles in Charge theme.
841
00:34:59.130 --> 00:35:00.070
I say let him try.
842
00:35:00.710 --> 00:35:04.750
Yeah, whoa, Corley's throwing down. Yeah, I'll firewall it. Later
843
00:35:04.869 --> 00:35:07.849
in court, you just crying. I didn't know.
844
00:35:08.110 --> 00:35:11.829
This is a fun way to plug my stand-up special,
845
00:35:11.949 --> 00:35:15.050
Dirty Clean, which is out on HBO now. There's a
846
00:35:15.050 --> 00:35:17.590
joke I couldn't do, and it goes like this. First
847
00:35:17.610 --> 00:35:18.889
I go, do you ever give thanks that you're not
848
00:35:19.070 --> 00:35:21.449
attracted to children? It's just kind of a funny line.
849
00:35:22.010 --> 00:35:24.369
And I go, but that shit is everywhere. Like, what's
850
00:35:24.389 --> 00:35:25.349
going on with that song?
851
00:35:25.369 --> 00:35:27.659
Hey, little girl, is your daddy home?
852
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:27.880
Yeah.
853
00:35:28.539 --> 00:35:30.800
Did he go and leave you all alone?
854
00:35:34.139 --> 00:35:36.380
Why am I hearing this at the dentist?
855
00:35:36.420 --> 00:35:36.739
Yeah.
856
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:39.719
It's like someone took a knife, baby, edgy and dull,
857
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:42.380
and cut a six-inch valley through the middle of my skull.
858
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:43.440
Is that the next line?
859
00:35:43.460 --> 00:35:45.840
At night I wake up with a sheet soaking wet
860
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:47.000
and a free train runs.
861
00:35:47.179 --> 00:35:48.460
Well, now we're just loving the song.
862
00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:48.699
Yeah.
863
00:35:48.940 --> 00:35:49.909
It's a good song.
864
00:35:49.969 --> 00:35:50.360
It is a good song.
865
00:35:50.389 --> 00:35:51.010
No, it's a great song.
866
00:35:51.269 --> 00:35:53.690
But all I said was like, that's fucking weird. Like
867
00:35:53.750 --> 00:35:56.510
nobody in the recording booth like this, through the glass,
868
00:35:56.769 --> 00:35:57.769
when he was like, I.
869
00:35:57.769 --> 00:36:01.889
Got a bird desire, was like, Bruce, it's fucking weird, man.
870
00:36:02.190 --> 00:36:03.469
That's all I said. Don't do that, Bruce.
871
00:36:03.719 --> 00:36:06.460
And I never called him a pedophile. I'm not, I'm also,
872
00:36:06.500 --> 00:36:09.019
we're not idiots. We're just saying the song sounds.
873
00:36:09.099 --> 00:36:10.920
No, I don't see why. Why did they cut that out?
874
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:15.239
Because I'm, the lawyers, not of HBO. Because the production
875
00:36:15.300 --> 00:36:17.809
company would get sued,
not HBO. HBO is fine with it.
876
00:36:18.219 --> 00:36:21.250
The production company wouldn't let me do it, understandably, because
877
00:36:21.570 --> 00:36:22.630
you're calling him a pedophile.
878
00:36:22.670 --> 00:36:25.110
And then I'd say, Neil Diamond, girl, you'll be a
879
00:36:25.150 --> 00:36:27.949
woman soon. Wait for that transition to be complete.
880
00:36:27.969 --> 00:36:32.210
Yeah. What fucking skis? She's just 16 years old.
881
00:36:32.230 --> 00:36:34.429
Leave her alone, they said.
882
00:36:34.449 --> 00:36:34.989
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
883
00:36:35.260 --> 00:36:38.900
You're 16 you're beautiful in your mind there's a lot
884
00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:40.619
of them out there I know but those two were
885
00:36:40.659 --> 00:36:42.440
like kind of subtle enough.
886
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:46.059
No no no but I'm surprised that yanked I'm surprised
887
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:48.500
that that got yanked it was yanked but you know
888
00:36:48.539 --> 00:36:50.340
what I said let's make sure I get the name
889
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:53.099
of the special correct Dirty Clean Dirty Clean and that's
890
00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:56.039
out now it's out now that's out now and on
891
00:36:56.159 --> 00:36:59.760
HBO Go or HBO Now and watch the special which
892
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:02.159
is really funny but then imagine that hunk in it
893
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:04.340
I know it's even a little bit better I.
894
00:37:04.340 --> 00:37:06.110
Had another, speaking of it went out like that, I
895
00:37:06.130 --> 00:37:07.909
had a joke where I go, some songs sound, this
896
00:37:07.929 --> 00:37:10.329
didn't make the special, I go, some songs sound unfinished.
897
00:37:10.889 --> 00:37:14.849
Desmond has a barrow at the marketplace while he has
898
00:37:14.929 --> 00:37:15.289
a sale.
899
00:37:15.309 --> 00:37:16.730
Okay, that's a good start. And then they get to
900
00:37:16.750 --> 00:37:21.300
the chorus, they're like, oh bloody, oh bloody, just for now.
901
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:24.840
Life goes on, blah. Obviously I couldn't afford that one.
902
00:37:24.860 --> 00:37:26.659
Led Zeppelin and the Beatles in this episode.
903
00:37:26.699 --> 00:37:27.519
This is gonna be.
904
00:37:27.539 --> 00:37:29.440
But this is what podcasts are. This is why I'm
905
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.309
happy you're doing a podcast. It's still showbiz, but like,
906
00:37:32.690 --> 00:37:34.269
It's a dream. I don't know if you've ever.
907
00:37:34.190 --> 00:37:37.510
Had a dream of something that requires almost no preparation
908
00:37:37.570 --> 00:37:42.750
or effort, but somehow impossibly produces a result, I would say,
909
00:37:43.130 --> 00:37:45.889
sometimes better than something that we worked really hard on.
910
00:37:45.889 --> 00:37:49.769
I have calculated every question and every response in this beforehand.
911
00:37:50.070 --> 00:37:52.130
And you've said all of the things that I predicted
912
00:37:52.150 -->
00:37:55.010
you would say based on the algorithms I was working
913
00:37:55.110 --> 00:37:57.019
out long into the night. So I don't know what
914
00:37:57.039 --> 00:37:59.619
you're talking about. I am old school and you've played
915
00:37:59.659 --> 00:38:03.199
right into my hands. Pete Holmes, an absolute desire. I
916
00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:13.559
got a bad desire. I got a bad desire. Fire.
917
00:38:14.699 --> 00:38:17.840
Tell me now, Pete, do you like me? Do you
918
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:22.929
want to sit on the edge of my knee, old Pete? Pete,
919
00:38:22.949 --> 00:38:24.139
you put that thought in my head and I'm going
920
00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:25.309
to think about it the rest of the day.
921
00:38:25.329 --> 00:38:25.650
I know.
922
00:38:25.690 --> 00:38:27.889
And then I'm calling Bruce Springsteen because we chat every
923
00:38:27.909 --> 00:38:30.090
day on the phone. Give me a denim shirt. That's
924
00:38:30.170 --> 00:38:33.329
not how he sounds. Give me a denim shirt. This
925
00:38:33.409 --> 00:38:36.030
is a terrible Bruce impression. Hey, I want to wear
926
00:38:36.050 --> 00:38:39.530
jeans and a denim shirt. Oh, wow. Okay. Well, that's him.
927
00:38:39.550 --> 00:38:39.949
I know.
928
00:38:39.969 --> 00:38:42.809
What is that? Him as a deputy in an old cowboy?
929
00:38:44.150 --> 00:38:47.769
The bad guys are coming. Calm down, bad Bruce Springsteen impression.
930
00:38:48.530 --> 00:38:51.190
The bad guys are coming over here. We got to
931
00:38:51.210 --> 00:38:54.210
get them. And we also got to do something for
932
00:38:54.250 --> 00:38:58.099
the working man. Marshall Dillon? All right, I'm wrapping this
933
00:38:58.139 --> 00:39:00.039
thing up. This thing's gone on way too long. This
934
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:03.219
isn't one of your nine hour podcasts where we just
935
00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:04.739
free flow. I'm a big believer.
936
00:39:04.860 --> 00:39:07.300
It's after the first hour that you get the good stuff.
937
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:10.500
Yeah, who wants the good stuff?
938
00:39:10.500 --> 00:39:10.900
104, who?
939
00:39:11.340 --> 00:39:13.079
But after he edits it. Can I say this? After
940
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:13.760
he edits it.
941
00:39:13.820 --> 00:39:14.800
Don't edit this out.
942
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:17.260
I have that control, so it's going on. Go ahead.
943
00:39:17.489 --> 00:39:19.550
Who told us that podcasts are supposed to.
944
00:39:19.530 --> 00:39:20.030
Be an hour?
945
00:39:20.329 --> 00:39:22.349
I have had the experience of being on a podcast
946
00:39:22.409 --> 00:39:23.690
and it's like hour three.
947
00:39:23.989 --> 00:39:24.250
Yes.
948
00:39:24.349 --> 00:39:27.840
And I do start to feel like, how does this stop?
949
00:39:28.869 --> 00:39:33.090
Where I'm the guest. Right. And I do think that they,
950
00:39:33.260 --> 00:39:35.980
if the studio was on fire, they wouldn't wrap it up.
951
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:39.679
I understand. They're trying to get a little more juice
952
00:39:39.699 --> 00:39:40.340
out of the breezies.
953
00:39:41.019 --> 00:39:44.099
That's Conan's or breezies. That's right. Because no one knows
954
00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:44.800
what you're talking about.
955
00:39:44.820 --> 00:39:46.260
Then I just say make it two hours.
956
00:39:46.699 --> 00:39:48.000
All right, Sonny, you got to end this thing.
957
00:39:49.219 --> 00:39:51.389
Thank you for joining us. That was Pete Holmes.
958
00:39:51.969 --> 00:39:52.949
That's how it ends.
959
00:39:53.010 --> 00:39:55.760
Check out Dirty Clean on HBO now.
960
00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:57.980
And Crashing comes back January 20th.
961
00:39:59.710 --> 00:40:00.750
After True Detective.
962
00:40:01.170 --> 00:40:02.730
After True Detective.
963
00:40:02.849 --> 00:40:06.989
We're the sorbet after the heavy entree. Someone in a
964
00:40:07.050 --> 00:40:09.989
crow mask is gonna shoot somebody. And then I'll be like,
965
00:40:10.289 --> 00:40:10.690
can I.
966
00:40:10.659 --> 00:40:13.980
Get five minutes at your club, mister? Why am I doing,
967
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:15.539
that's a you bet. Come on, give me a break.
968
00:40:15.619 --> 00:40:17.820
I'm only doing that because I'm with you. That's my
969
00:40:17.860 --> 00:40:22.340
girl in show business. Gee, Mr. O'Brien, do you think
970
00:40:22.380 --> 00:40:25.199
you could put me on the show? Chomp, chomp on gum.
971
00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:29.619
Hands on hips. Scrunchy on wrist. Yeah.
972
00:40:30.099 --> 00:40:30.739
Gee, Mr.
973
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:36.519
O'Brien, I could be a singer. All right, this is it.
974
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:37.920
Peace out, Tupac.
975
00:40:45.179 --> 00:40:49.210
And now it's time for another installment of Conan O'Brien
976
00:40:49.269 --> 00:40:51.369
pays off the mortgage on his beach house.
977
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How was school today?
978
00:40:54.510 --> 00:40:55.010
Ah, you know.
979
00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:57.039
Football training, lunch with the lads.
980
00:40:57.760 --> 00:40:59.429
Oh, and I have that art project to finish.
981
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988
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:30.090
Okay, of course, I'm sitting here with producer Matt Gourley
989
00:41:30.170 --> 00:41:35.690
and Sona Movsesian is doodling something. Remember the time I
990
00:41:35.730 --> 00:41:37.989
caught you doodling at your desk, Sona, and it
was
991
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a butt? Remember when you were drawing a butt?
992
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:41.260
Remember?
993
00:41:41.400 --> 00:41:43.139
The story. Just hold it. Do you remember when you
994
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:43.719
were drawing a butt?
995
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:46.000
It's, I'm going to tell the story right now.
996
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:47.460
There's no time because we're getting into a segment.
997
00:41:47.539 --> 00:41:49.480
I know, but you said you don't do any work.
998
00:41:49.579 --> 00:41:50.340
I said, yes, I do.
999
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:52.380
And I flipped through my notebook and there was a
1000
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:53.559
drawing of a butt.
1001
00:41:53.900 --> 00:41:55.619
Yeah. Why were you drawing a butt?
1002
00:41:56.900 --> 00:42:00.070
I didn't draw it. Jason Gilemmi, our field producer, drew
1003
00:42:00.139 --> 00:42:01.119
it on my notebook.
1004
00:42:01.449 --> 00:42:03.889
It was just very embarrassing because I picked up Sona's
1005
00:42:03.969 --> 00:42:06.150
book to see what work she'd been doing. And there
1006
00:42:06.170 --> 00:42:08.130
was just a drawing of a butt in her notebook.
1007
00:42:08.389 --> 00:42:10.309
Well, do you remember when we did those Roman ED
1008
00:42:10.409 --> 00:42:12.429
ads and you were drawing erections all over the paper?
1009
00:42:13.309 --> 00:42:14.949
I wasn't drawing them. I was sculpting them.
1010
00:42:15.070 --> 00:42:15.590
Oh, that's right.
1011
00:42:16.730 --> 00:42:21.730
Matt, we've now released a handful of these podcast episodes.
1012
00:42:22.369 --> 00:42:23.769
And I thought we should do a state of the
1013
00:42:23.809 --> 00:42:27.460
podcast where we assess how we're doing so far. Why
1014
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:30.219
don't you give us your assessment as a professional podcaster?
1015
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:32.599
Well, I don't think it's any surprise, but we are
1016
00:42:32.619 --> 00:42:36.619
doing very well. This podcast has an average of five
1017
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:40.949
stars out of five stars. The download numbers exceeded expectations
1018
00:42:41.050 --> 00:42:44.989
multiple times where they even upped the ad sales and
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00:42:45.010 --> 00:42:47.650
then had to sell more ads. So you're doing incredibly well.
1020
00:42:48.230 --> 00:42:48.550
Okay.
1021
00:42:48.690 --> 00:42:51.670
So that's good. I don't have any connection emotionally to
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00:42:51.750 --> 00:42:54.860
any of that. Those are just, that's you looking at
1023
00:42:55.260 --> 00:42:58.280
various graphs and charts. You probably go into a dark
1024
00:42:58.340 --> 00:43:03.440
room and just look at all kinds of screens. Yeah.
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A numbers seller.
1026
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:08.929
Yeah. And I, what I know, so I was in
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00:43:08.969 --> 00:43:12.659
a foreign country called Canada. And I was walking down
1028
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:15.800
the street and a car drove by and a guy
1029
00:43:15.989 --> 00:43:19.070
rolled down the window on his truck and said, gone
1030
00:43:19.130 --> 00:43:21.110
and I loved the podcast.
1031
00:43:21.510 --> 00:43:24.949
Now that's something. When you're reaching just the streets of
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00:43:24.989 --> 00:43:25.530
another country.
1033
00:43:25.630 --> 00:43:28.849
I was in the streets of Vancouver. Now granted, it's
1034
00:43:28.969 --> 00:43:32.989
practically the United States. Vancouver is pretty much a suburb
1035
00:43:33.110 --> 00:43:35.920
of Seattle. But I thought that was a good sign.
1036
00:43:36.340 --> 00:43:38.920
I'm hearing more and more people say they like the podcast.
1037
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:42.409
And that's the only thing I go by. is humans
1038
00:43:42.769 --> 00:43:48.150
telling me. So your numbers and your graphs and your charts,
1039
00:43:48.230 --> 00:43:58.059
and you're telling me, the advertisers quadrupled their expectations. Is
1040
00:43:58.079 --> 00:43:59.380
that a fair, you think that's a good idea?
1041
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:01.639
First of all, I didn't use that voice. And second
1042
00:44:01.659 --> 00:44:03.719
of all, I am a person telling you that.
1043
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:05.019
Oh, you're right.
1044
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:07.099
How do you feel about it? Are you feeling good?
1045
00:44:07.380 --> 00:44:07.659
I am.
1046
00:44:07.940 --> 00:44:11.230
I enjoy it. Yeah. I, I, Totally go by how
1047
00:44:11.289 --> 00:44:15.110
things feel. I'm a sensual man. I'm a sensualist.
1048
00:44:15.429 --> 00:44:17.150
I feel like I know what Sona goes through on
1049
00:44:17.190 --> 00:44:17.869
a day-to-day basis.
1050
00:44:18.329 --> 00:44:21.969
And I go totally on, I'm very tactile. Sona, help.
1051
00:44:21.989 --> 00:44:24.489
I'm like Jeff Goldblum. I have to touch everything around me.
1052
00:44:24.630 --> 00:44:24.969
Please.
1053
00:44:24.989 --> 00:44:25.150
Oh, yes.
1054
00:44:26.349 --> 00:44:30.489
Oh, that's Jeff Goldblum. It feels good to me. I
1055
00:44:30.510 --> 00:44:33.260
enjoy it. It feels like a form that fits my
1056
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:37.880
rambling mind. Sona, what are you doing? I'm sorry.
1057
00:44:38.469 --> 00:44:40.030
Why are you, you're on your phone when I need
1058
00:44:40.090 --> 00:44:40.809
help over here?
1059
00:44:40.889 --> 00:44:41.469
I have to do something.
1060
00:44:41.489 --> 00:44:42.349
You know what I'm saying?
1061
00:44:42.769 --> 00:44:44.530
Can I just say something, first of all? When we're
1062
00:44:44.550 --> 00:44:46.389
doing the podcast, we're doing the podcast.
1063
00:44:46.409 --> 00:44:46.769
I know, I'm sorry.
1064
00:44:46.789 --> 00:44:49.489
And I looked over, hand me your paper, please. And
1065
00:44:49.510 --> 00:44:53.710
you were drawing furiously. And you're drawing, who is that?
1066
00:44:53.769 --> 00:44:55.409
It looks like kind of a chubby girl.
1067
00:44:55.449 --> 00:44:56.050
That's very good.
1068
00:44:56.070 --> 00:44:57.260
It's a little
chubby boy.
1069
00:44:57.449 --> 00:44:59.659
Oh, it's a little chubby. He's got a little afro. Okay,
1070
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:03.099
and then you drew all these weird designs on the side. Yeah,
1071
00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:05.739
it's just my- Right, so you're scratching and scribbling, and
1072
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:07.619
then I see you texting on your phone, and you're
1073
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:10.559
like the teenage daughter. I'm trying to explain to you,
1074
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:13.539
we're in Washington, D.C., and I'm showing you the Lincoln
1075
00:45:13.579 --> 00:45:15.900
Memorial and explaining to you who Abraham Lincoln is, and
1076
00:45:15.940 --> 00:45:18.809
you're on your phone- You know, texting with your friend.
1077
00:45:18.829 --> 00:45:21.030
Doodling again. Yeah, put that down. Put it down. The
1078
00:45:21.050 --> 00:45:22.010
state of the podcast is.
1079
00:45:21.969 --> 00:45:24.000
That the show's doing well, but behind the scenes, it's
1080
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:24.599
a mess here.
1081
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:25.119
It's a mess.
1082
00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:28.760
You doodle constantly. Why can't I doodle a little bit?
1083
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:30.320
I drew a little guy.
1084
00:45:30.340 --> 00:45:33.699
Yeah, but you're not in the moment. I'm always present
1085
00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:35.909
and in the moment. You have an attention problem. You
1086
00:45:35.929 --> 00:45:36.110
know that.
1087
00:45:36.150 --> 00:45:36.409
I do.
1088
00:45:36.429 --> 00:45:36.530
I do.
1089
00:45:37.190 --> 00:45:40.010
But, you know, in my defense, I'm answering emails for
1090
00:45:40.179 --> 00:45:42.119
you because I am your assistant.
1091
00:45:42.139 --> 00:45:44.619
When I do this, I shut my phone off and
1092
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:46.639
my phone doesn't exist because I'm only doing this.
1093
00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:46.940
All right.
1094
00:45:47.059 --> 00:45:48.420
Here's what we're going to do. We're going to do
1095
00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:51.380
a doodle off. Okay. I'm going to tell you something
1096
00:45:51.420 --> 00:45:53.019
to draw and both of you are going to give
1097
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:53.840
it your best shot.
1098
00:45:53.900 --> 00:45:54.099
Go.
1099
00:45:54.119 --> 00:45:54.460
Okay.
1100
00:45:55.260 --> 00:45:57.150
A puppy dog with a Christmas bow on it.
1101
00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:01.889
I got this because I draw puppy dogs all the time.
1102
00:46:01.909 --> 00:46:02.170
All right.
1103
00:46:02.190 --> 00:46:02.329
Yeah.
1104
00:46:02.369 --> 00:46:04.389
And go ahead and talk us through your process as well.
1105
00:46:04.849 --> 00:46:06.110
I'm imagining the puppy dog.
1106
00:46:07.150 --> 00:46:10.630
They both have a very interesting, like Sona's just blazing this.
1107
00:46:10.769 --> 00:46:13.010
Yeah, well, she draws puppy dogs all day long.
1108
00:46:13.030 --> 00:46:13.750
That's what I do.
1109
00:46:13.750 --> 00:46:15.449
They're both actually quite good.
1110
00:46:15.989 --> 00:46:17.769
All she does is draw puppy dogs.
1111
00:46:17.869 --> 00:46:21.929
Like Conan is like the New Yorker style kind of artwork.
1112
00:46:22.010 --> 00:46:24.469
James Thurber. Yeah. And he's got a bow on his head.
1113
00:46:24.489 --> 00:46:26.110
It's a Christmas puppy.
1114
00:46:26.510 --> 00:46:27.280
Well, I'm done.
1115
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:28.280
Whoa.
1116
00:46:28.300 --> 00:46:28.659
All right.
1117
00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:29.820
Let's take a look. Please sign it.
1118
00:46:29.940 --> 00:46:30.460
Please sign it.
1119
00:46:31.099 --> 00:46:31.460
Okay.
1120
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:32.639
Quite a signature too.
1121
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:33.159
Wow.
1122
00:46:33.340 --> 00:46:33.519
Yeah.
1123
00:46:33.659 --> 00:46:36.360
I drew, I was under the, we were drawing as
1124
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:37.539
quickly as possible.
1125
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:39.980
No one said that. Who said that?
1126
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:43.320
No one did, but I just, when I heard competition,
1127
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:45.699
I just immediately started going really fast.
1128
00:46:45.889 --> 00:46:47.340
And Sona, please put your name at the top.
1129
00:46:47.389 --> 00:46:48.699
You know, I'm going to put, I'm going to put
1130
00:46:48.739 --> 00:46:50.610
an extra piece of flair on this guy.
1131
00:46:50.619 --> 00:46:53.150
Oh my God.
1132
00:46:53.369 --> 00:46:56.170
Both of these are impressive. Does yours have a bow
1133
00:46:56.190 --> 00:46:56.570
on it?
1134
00:46:56.670 --> 00:46:57.590
Yeah, he said a bow.
1135
00:46:58.150 --> 00:46:58.489
Oh, it is.
1136
00:46:58.590 --> 00:47:01.239
Okay. All right. Yeah.
1137
00:47:01.380 --> 00:47:01.639
Wow.
1138
00:47:01.820 --> 00:47:05.449
Okay, so here's what we'll do. Go to Earwolf.com to
1139
00:47:05.469 --> 00:47:07.190
the page for this episode and you can see the
1140
00:47:07.250 --> 00:47:11.230
pictures of these drawings and you can vote amongst yourselves
1141
00:47:11.289 --> 00:47:14.329
or on Reddit or wherever you want with friends as
1142
00:47:14.349 --> 00:47:17.550
to whether Sona or Conan did the best dog with
1143
00:47:17.570 --> 00:47:18.590
a bow drawing.
1144
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:19.840
My little Christmas pup.
1145
00:47:20.699 --> 00:47:21.039
Wow.
1146
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:23.880
And then can you put your name at the top
1147
00:47:23.900 --> 00:47:26.900
there too as the assignment was clearly laid out.
1148
00:47:27.659 --> 00:47:28.900
Oh, okay.
1149
00:47:29.340 --> 00:47:33.360
You're... Taking a lot from Conan. This is gonna be
1150
00:47:33.420 --> 00:47:35.719
great for people listening on the podcast.
1151
00:47:35.739 --> 00:47:38.139
You know what? Can I say something, Gorley? You're the
1152
00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:42.480
first podcast producer to have people silently draw on the air.
1153
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:45.059
Probably your downfall. You know, I didn't know.
1154
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:45.340
You know what?
1155
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:47.920
Eventually. What's that? You, come on.
1156
00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:48.420
Wow.
1157
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:51.480
That's not fair. Okay. Mine's funny. Look at the dog.
1158
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:52.019
He's sad.
1159
00:47:52.059 --> 00:47:52.309
Should I?
1160
00:47:52.380 --> 00:47:52.619
Okay.
1161
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:54.699
The dog is sad looking at a Christmas tree with
1162
00:47:54.739 --> 00:47:56.820
a thought bubble that says, I'm Jewish.
1163
00:47:57.030 --> 00:47:57.329
Yeah.
1164
00:47:58.010 --> 00:47:58.489
That's funny.
1165
00:47:58.789 --> 00:48:01.989
The owners didn't know his religion. Yeah, they just assumed.
1166
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:02.409
Yeah.
1167
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:03.219
So anyway.
1168
00:48:03.340 --> 00:48:06.139
Well, you drew in Sharpie. You have a tree. You
1169
00:48:06.340 --> 00:48:07.500
have like a border.
1170
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:10.579
Oh, God. You know what? Your generation, all you do
1171
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:15.250
is cast blame. It's not fair. It's not fair. Where's
1172
00:48:15.289 --> 00:48:19.329
my reality show? Where's my billion dollars? I put the
1173
00:48:19.369 --> 00:48:21.250
work in and I reap the rewards.
1174
00:48:21.329 --> 00:48:21.730
I don't know.
1175
00:48:22.170 --> 00:48:24.409
You're the one who started a show because you didn't
1176
00:48:24.429 --> 00:48:26.679
get enough love and attention as a kid.
1177
00:48:27.389 --> 00:48:28.659
Well, it's working.
1178
00:48:32.019 --> 00:48:35.940
Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend with Sona Movsesian and Conan
1179
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:37.320
O'Brien as himself.
1180
00:48:37.739 --> 00:48:41.519
Produced by me, Matt Gourley. Executive produced by Adam Sachs
1181
00:48:41.579 --> 00:48:44.579
and Jeff Ross at Team Coco and Colin Anderson and
1182
00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:47.880
Chris Bannon at Earwolf. Special thanks to Jack White and
1183
00:48:47.900 --> 00:48:49.460
the White Stripes for the theme song.
1184
00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:54.039
Incidental music by Jimmy Vivino. You can rate and review
1185
00:48:54.099 --> 00:48:56.820
this show on Apple Podcasts, and you might find your
1186
00:48:56.860 --> 00:49:00.199
review featured on a future episode. Got a question for Conan?
1187
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:06.980
Call the Team Coco hotline at 323-451-2821 and leave a message. It, too,
1188
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:09.760
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00:49:09.780 --> 00:49:12.909
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1190
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