النص الكامل لحلقة Suburban Witchery With Kanani Soleil

for the rest of her journey. This week brings a 34 00:02:43.419 --> 00:02:47.099 moon that she rules. The new moon on the 10th 35 00:02:47.750 --> 00:02:51.949 is in the sign of Libra, Relationships, It's not going 36 00:02:51.969 --> 00:02:54.909 to be just a simple, gentle, oh let's all get 37 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:58.099 along or let's give each other greeting cards and figure 38 00:02:58.159 --> 00:02:59.939 out how we're going to be nice to each other. 39 00:02:59.960 --> 00:03:06.860 This is a really potent, powerful, almost demanding new moon 40 00:03:06.939 --> 00:03:12.830 because she is in a very challenging relationship with Mars. 41 00:03:12.849 --> 00:03:16.000 So you can look at Venus in the sky, Venus saying, 42 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:18.560 this is what I want, and Mars saying, oh, okay, 43 00:03:19.030 --> 00:03:21.810 I will go get it for you. There will be 44 00:03:21.909 --> 00:03:26.930 demands to get things moving, to get things going that 45 00:03:27.110 --> 00:03:33.949 are extremely important. And this is molding the new starts 46 00:03:34.069 --> 00:03:37.689 and the new phases and the next phases and the seeds, 47 00:03:37.750 --> 00:03:43.590 et cetera, that are being planted and nurtured. by the 48 00:03:43.810 --> 00:03:50.409 Libra new moon. Not gentle at all. Also, women really 49 00:03:50.949 --> 00:03:54.069 on the uproar, asking for things from men and not 50 00:03:54.169 --> 00:03:58.280 sitting quietly. The news will give you some indication of that. 51 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:05.340 And as this happens, or in the week afterwards, so 52 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:07.870 right around, I've got to check my notes, the 16th, 53 00:04:07.909 --> 00:04:11.870 we have a stabilizing moment, and then another moment of 54 00:04:12.409 --> 00:04:18.639 Huge information, knowledge, power, revelation, something must happen coming up 55 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:22.720 from the depths. Venus will make the second of three 56 00:04:23.180 --> 00:04:27.519 challenges or squares to Pluto, which is the ruler of 57 00:04:27.579 --> 00:04:31.670 the sign she's in, the ruler of Scorpio. It's also 58 00:04:31.750 --> 00:04:34.569 the lord of the ruler of all this stuff that 59 00:04:34.589 --> 00:04:38.730 we don't like to talk about and When Venus and 60 00:04:38.870 --> 00:04:43.149 Pluto square off like this, there's often triangulation in the news. 61 00:04:43.509 --> 00:04:46.290 Something comes up where we have to make a choice. 62 00:04:46.709 --> 00:04:50.420 We have to do something not just like it has 63 00:04:50.459 --> 00:04:54.439 been before. And there's kind of an obsessive tractor beam 64 00:04:54.540 --> 00:04:59.720 quality to anything that goes on through this. Very intense time. 65 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:03.629 Right around the time that this happens, as we're going 66 00:05:03.769 --> 00:05:07.629 into That week, which is, that happens on the 20th, 67 00:05:08.009 --> 00:05:13.680 then on the 23rd, the Sun will go into

Scorpio, 68 00:05:14.300 --> 00:05:20.079 and then that is when Mercury goes retrograde. The Sun 69 00:05:20.139 --> 00:05:22.600 and Venus will meet, Mercury will go retrograde, and then 70 00:05:22.660 --> 00:05:27.410 Venus will go back into Scorpio. Libra so just know 71 00:05:27.470 --> 00:05:29.350 that in about a week and a half two weeks 72 00:05:29.389 --> 00:05:35.449 there'll be this incredible cluster of again knowing of certainty 73 00:05:35.689 --> 00:05:39.129 of knowledge especially when Venus and the Sun meet this 74 00:05:39.209 --> 00:05:42.029 is a Kazemi or a star point and it's the 75 00:05:42.089 --> 00:05:45.810 last time it's going to happen in Scorpio for our 76 00:05:45.970 --> 00:05:50.189 lifetimes bottom line is this is going back over old 77 00:05:50.290 --> 00:05:53.920 territory people from the past situations from the past things 78 00:05:53.939 --> 00:05:56.370 that somebody tried to keep under wraps and now they 79 00:05:56.439 --> 00:06:01.170 can't stay under wraps any longer. In your own life, 80 00:06:01.230 --> 00:06:04.189 look at it as a time of personal soul retrieval. 81 00:06:04.589 --> 00:06:08.509 Figure out how you have become different, how you have evolved, 82 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:11.500 how the situation in your life is not what it 83 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:17.100 was when various circumstances were put in place. This is 84 00:06:17.139 --> 00:06:22.800 a cleanup time, a purging time. after the big rewiring 85 00:06:22.839 --> 00:06:27.439 that we all went through in July. Lots more about 86 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:32.290 this in my forecasts, which are at OMTimes and on 87 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:39.870 my site, empowermentunlimited.net, and at the Professional Aquarian YouTube channel. 88 00:06:39.910 --> 00:06:45.610 And one final thing, I have a guided visualization at empowermentunlimited.net 89 00:06:45.829 --> 00:06:51.180 in the shop that has you meet Venus retrograde and 90 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:55.689 discuss what this means for you, what you can clear out, 91 00:06:55.790 --> 00:06:59.990 what the benefit is for you, and what you can 92 00:07:00.110 --> 00:07:04.509 do with it for a witchy $ 13. That is all. 93 00:07:04.889 --> 00:07:09.600 So in honor of Venus being in Scorpio and going 94 00:07:09.649 --> 00:07:12.100 over the past and being in this kind of spooky mode, 95 00:07:12.759 --> 00:07:17.199 I have taken my Usually in October, I will have 96 00:07:17.620 --> 00:07:22.480 one show that is focused more on witchcraft or the 97 00:07:22.540 --> 00:07:27.000 history of Halloween, something more along those lines. And this month, 98 00:07:27.110 --> 00:07:31.069 it's just going to be looking at witchcraft all month long. 99 00:07:31.129 --> 00:07:35.850 And that leads to today's guest, Kanani Soleil, who is 100 00:07:35.930 --> 00:07:40.240 a Pacific Northwest girl at heart who spent, has from 101 00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:43.439 the beginning been looking for to figure out what

life 102 00:07:43.500 --> 00:07:46.730 is about and to look into the secrets of the universe. 103 00:07:46.769 --> 00:07:49.550 And at the age of 20, she came across magic. 104 00:07:49.569 --> 00:07:52.850 And now she is the author of the book, Witchcraft 105 00:07:53.009 --> 00:07:57.430 in the Cul-de-sac, Suburban Witch, Suburban Mom. Welcome, Kavani. 106 00:07:57.449 --> 00:08:02.389 Thank you so much. I'm really excited to be here. Yay. 107 00:08:02.449 --> 00:08:05.160 Well, can you tell us a little bit about how 108 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:06.819 you came to witchcraft? 109 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:12.879 Yeah. So, um, I grew up in a, uh, kind 110 00:08:12.920 --> 00:08:17.399 of an agnostic, uh, family where we believed in something, 111 00:08:17.620 --> 00:08:21.079 we believed in something bigger than ourselves. There wasn't really 112 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:24.500 a formalized practice or anything that went along with that. 113 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:29.040 So I was very lucky in that I had the 114 00:08:29.079 --> 00:08:31.399 freedom to kind of figure out what that meant for myself. 115 00:08:32.450 --> 00:08:37.809 And so I explored, uh, organized religions. I explored all 116 00:08:37.870 --> 00:08:42.000 kinds of different things. And the only thing that really 117 00:08:42.100 --> 00:08:47.029 rang true for me was the practice of witchcraft. That 118 00:08:47.090 --> 00:08:50.070 was kind of, it fell in line with a lot 119 00:08:50.090 --> 00:08:54.750 of my spiritual beliefs and my beliefs in spirits and 120 00:08:55.129 --> 00:08:58.590 in the energy of the universe and things like that. 121 00:08:58.889 --> 00:09:01.960 And so just the more and more I started kind 122 00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:05.120 of settling into my practice and what I did and 123 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:08.279 what I believed, just the more and more I just 124 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:11.440 kind of found myself entrenched in a witchcraft practice until 125 00:09:11.500 --> 00:09:14.769 eventually I just threw my hands up and stopped calling 126 00:09:14.809 --> 00:09:18.190 myself spiritual and said, okay, I'm a witch. Here I am. 127 00:09:18.389 --> 00:09:20.649 I'm a witch. It's what it is. And then I, 128 00:09:20.850 --> 00:09:23.870 I just, I learned to embrace that. And for a 129 00:09:23.889 --> 00:09:29.649 long time, I, because of all the negative connotations that 130 00:09:29.690 --> 00:09:32.139 can be associated with the word, which I did, I 131 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:34.919 called myself spiritual and that was my kind of tagline. 132 00:09:35.659 --> 00:09:41.059 And eventually, and also, I had this preconceived notion of 133 00:09:41.100 --> 00:09:43.159 what a witch looks like, what her house looks like, 134 00:09:43.250 --> 00:09:47.909 what she dresses like, what she does. And I'm a suburban, 135 00:09:48.409 --> 00:09:50.669 I'm a suburbanite. I grew up in the burbs. I 136 00:09:50.710 --> 00:09:52.990 love the burbs. I'm raising my children in

the suburbs. 137 00:09:53.909 --> 00:09:56.669 I've got the messy mom hair buns and my yoga 138 00:09:56.690 --> 00:09:59.269 pants that have never seen a yoga class. And I 139 00:09:59.309 --> 00:10:02.899 love my latte. and all the things, right? And I 140 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:06.460 just didn't think that that fit the profile of who 141 00:10:06.539 --> 00:10:11.649 I thought a witch was until I realized that was 142 00:10:11.750 --> 00:10:15.190 my own boundary. That was my own misgivings. That had 143 00:10:15.350 --> 00:10:19.429 nothing to do with any sense of reality. And I just... 144 00:10:20.210 --> 00:10:22.490 you know, my friend encouraged me and she said, write 145 00:10:22.549 --> 00:10:25.039 the book that you wish that 20 year old you had. 146 00:10:26.139 --> 00:10:27.860 And so that's what I did. I wrote the book 147 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:31.340 so that people don't feel discluded. So they realize you 148 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:33.460 can love all these things and live in this world 149 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:37.639 and love this world. And it's not at all exclusionary 150 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:41.210 to living a magical life that coexists beautifully because magic 151 00:10:41.250 --> 00:10:44.509 is all around us. So you can have this suburban 152 00:10:44.549 --> 00:10:48.789 existence that you love and, and be a powerful, empowered witch. 153 00:10:50.500 --> 00:10:53.159 So let me go back just a little bit in 154 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:59.029 your comments. Did you first get exposed to the notion 155 00:10:59.049 --> 00:11:03.929 of witchcraft by reading, by books? Did you run into somebody? 156 00:11:03.990 --> 00:11:07.029 Were you in a store and you saw cool trinkets? 157 00:11:07.710 --> 00:11:08.350 How did that happen? 158 00:11:08.429 --> 00:11:12.779 I love this. I love the background of this. So 159 00:11:14.460 --> 00:11:20.409 originally in my real spiritual kind of upbringing and trying 160 00:11:20.429 --> 00:11:23.909 to learn and understand in my family was a very 161 00:11:23.950 --> 00:11:30.559 real belief in ghosts, spirits, life after death, miraculous things 162 00:11:30.700 --> 00:11:33.860 that people in the family had experienced. More specifically, one 163 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:36.980 of my grandfathers who had incredible stories that he would share. 164 00:11:37.659 --> 00:11:41.019 And so that was very fundamental to kind of my 165 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:43.419 baseline of anywhere I was going to go was this 166 00:11:43.500 --> 00:11:47.639 belief in life after death. spirits, being able to talk to, 167 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:50.259 not just spirits, but being able to communicate with them, 168 00:11:50.860 --> 00:11:55.779 them being a part of our existence, this concept of 169 00:11:55.980 --> 00:11:58.889 angels or spirit guides or there's different things people can 170 00:11:58.990 --> 00:12:04.350 call them, but just that existence. And then this was 171 00:12:04.389 --> 00:12:08.190

the 90s, right? The craft and Sabrina the Teenage Witch 172 00:12:08.710 --> 00:12:14.899 and later practical magic, right? It was... it was very 173 00:12:14.990 --> 00:12:19.570 much kind of in, in the culture. And, uh, my 174 00:12:19.669 --> 00:12:22.950 best friend who is Courtney Weber, who's written many, many books. 175 00:12:23.350 --> 00:12:25.210 She and I've been friends since we were literally in 176 00:12:25.250 --> 00:12:27.809 middle school. I don't know. I don't remember life before 177 00:12:27.889 --> 00:12:31.470 us being best friends. And I bought her her first, 178 00:12:31.529 --> 00:12:34.580 she wrote her first book, uh, was tarot for one. 179 00:12:34.700 --> 00:12:36.899 I bought her her first tarot deck for her 16th 180 00:12:36.940 --> 00:12:40.159 birthday party. And I bought it. And some people remember 181 00:12:40.200 --> 00:12:42.759 this and I'm sorry, but this really ages us. In 182 00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:45.659 the mall, there used to be a Discovery Channel store. 183 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:46.940 Do you remember this? 184 00:12:47.580 --> 00:12:51.409 Oh, my God. You got it in a Discovery Channel store? Yes. Yes, 185 00:12:51.509 --> 00:12:52.049 I did. 186 00:12:52.289 --> 00:12:57.250 In a science, hear me, science Discovery Channel store. They 187 00:12:57.289 --> 00:13:00.409 had like a couple tarot decks. And she had seen one. 188 00:13:00.429 --> 00:13:02.389 And that's what she wanted. And I bought it for 189 00:13:02.429 --> 00:13:05.919 her 16th birthday. And so then we did what all 16-year-olds, 190 00:13:06.139 --> 00:13:08.639 you know, were worried about. Does this boy like me? 191 00:13:09.100 --> 00:13:11.299 What's going to happen? Does this, you know, why does 192 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:13.970 this girl not like me? What's my future? Who am 193 00:13:14.029 --> 00:13:16.799 I going to met? You know, all the things. And 194 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:21.419 I just that kind of that started kind of sparked that. 195 00:13:21.799 --> 00:13:26.529 And she she really went kind of heavy into witchcraft 196 00:13:27.450 --> 00:13:30.789 and learning about things and reading things and and joining 197 00:13:30.809 --> 00:13:34.809 groups and things like that. And I kind of would 198 00:13:34.850 --> 00:13:36.980 talk to her about things because the things that she 199 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:38.759 would say and the things she would relate to me. 200 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:42.539 like hit, they just made sense. And so I would 201 00:13:42.580 --> 00:13:43.799 talk to her about these things and I was like, yeah, 202 00:13:43.820 --> 00:13:45.919 that makes sense. And then there's this, and we just 203 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:49.799 kind of had this intrinsic communication about it where we 204 00:13:49.820 --> 00:13:53.950 just kind of found ourselves learning more and more. She 205 00:13:53.990 --> 00:13:55.940 was really the only person I spoke to about it. 206 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:59.389 It was kind of

private. It wasn't something I talked 207 00:13:59.409 --> 00:14:02.990 about with other people. I did read my own books 208 00:14:03.090 --> 00:14:04.490 and things like that, but I was also learning about 209 00:14:04.529 --> 00:14:09.120 feng shui and aromatherapy. And crystals and palmistry, anything I 210 00:14:09.139 --> 00:14:12.320 could get my hands on. And just everything that I 211 00:14:12.379 --> 00:14:17.710 kept coming back to just was the witchy stuff. And 212 00:14:18.070 --> 00:14:19.830 she would come and she would visit me because, again, 213 00:14:19.850 --> 00:14:23.129 I'm referring to myself as spiritual. And she would laugh 214 00:14:23.210 --> 00:14:27.529 and she'd be like, you decorate your house with brooms. Yeah. 215 00:14:27.570 --> 00:14:29.929 A witchy thing, right? She'd just point to things and 216 00:14:29.950 --> 00:14:32.649 just be like, yeah, that's not witchy at all. And 217 00:14:32.690 --> 00:14:35.429 I just eventually I just kind of realized, you know, 218 00:14:35.509 --> 00:14:40.009 I just stopped. being afraid of embracing that title and 219 00:14:40.070 --> 00:14:43.549 instead found empowerment in that title. But it was something 220 00:14:43.570 --> 00:14:45.490 that just kind of came, it just kind of came 221 00:14:45.549 --> 00:14:49.590 about naturally by the things that resonated with me and 222 00:14:49.610 --> 00:14:52.549 the things that I learned about, the things that made 223 00:14:52.649 --> 00:14:55.529 sense and the things that stayed with me are the 224 00:14:55.570 --> 00:14:58.009 things that were much more kind of witchcraft centric. 225 00:14:59.789 --> 00:15:02.580 So what is, what is witchcraft to you? What is 226 00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:03.720 your definition of it? 227 00:15:06.419 --> 00:15:13.019 So, I try and explain to people because the term 228 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:15.879 Wicca became very popular. Actually, I don't know if I 229 00:15:15.899 --> 00:15:19.200 want to say popular, but culturally understood that there was 230 00:15:19.240 --> 00:15:23.730 a thing called Wicca, say, in the 90s. Wicca is 231 00:15:23.750 --> 00:15:29.370 a practice of witchcraft that has certain dogmas and beliefs 232 00:15:29.429 --> 00:15:32.809 and structures and things like that. Not all people who 233 00:15:32.870 --> 00:15:37.860 consider themselves witches practice Wicca. So that's something I try 234 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:41.539 and explain to people. Just like the umbrella of Christianity, 235 00:15:41.980 --> 00:15:43.960 there's people who consider themselves Presbyterians. 236 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:44.919 There's Episcopals. 237 00:15:44.960 --> 00:15:46.759 There's all kinds of different things that fall under this 238 00:15:46.830 --> 00:15:51.710 big umbrella. Witchcraft is a big umbrella. So you can 239 00:15:51.750 --> 00:15:55.450 have people who practice all different kinds of witchcraft that 240 00:15:55.509 --> 00:16:00.779 exist under this umbrella. Witchcraft as

a whole, for me, 241 00:16:00.899 --> 00:16:07.610 someone who is a witch would be someone who works 242 00:16:08.490 --> 00:16:15.830 with spells and works to make change through spells. To me, 243 00:16:15.909 --> 00:16:17.350 that would be if you have to kind of get 244 00:16:17.389 --> 00:16:20.090 to the nuts and bolts of, and so witchcraft would 245 00:16:20.110 --> 00:16:22.850 be their practice of that. So a witch is someone 246 00:16:23.009 --> 00:16:25.750 who uses spell work. And this is my opinion. This 247 00:16:25.809 --> 00:16:29.190 is not Webster's, you know, definition, but in my opinion 248 00:16:29.210 --> 00:16:31.509 is a witch is someone who practices magic and does 249 00:16:31.549 --> 00:16:35.820 spell work to make change. And so if you do that, 250 00:16:36.139 --> 00:16:38.179 you would fall kind of under that umbrella. And then, 251 00:16:38.210 --> 00:16:42.730 like I said, there's different, um, there's so many practices 252 00:16:43.409 --> 00:16:46.590 that people have that fall into the witchcraft umbrella, but that's, 253 00:16:46.750 --> 00:16:48.889 that's to me is kind of what, what makes a 254 00:16:48.929 --> 00:16:51.820 witch is. And, and when you look at that example, 255 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:54.399 I have a lot of people who are like, well, 256 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:56.299 I do this and I do this and I do that. 257 00:16:56.340 --> 00:16:58.750 And it's like, yeah, that's, that's witchcraft. You know, you, 258 00:16:59.820 --> 00:17:02.539 you may not be calling it that, but that's, that's witchcraft. 259 00:17:02.590 --> 00:17:06.970 You're trying to manipulate energy. You're, you know, creating things 260 00:17:07.230 --> 00:17:11.289 and putting out intentions and taking steps to create change. 261 00:17:11.410 --> 00:17:13.809 Like that's, that's spellcasting. That's witchcraft. 262 00:17:16.029 --> 00:17:20.609 So you've, with that as the definition, it's been easy 263 00:17:20.650 --> 00:17:23.930 for you just to integrate this into what other people 264 00:17:23.970 --> 00:17:26.799 might look at as a ordinary life, right? 265 00:17:27.380 --> 00:17:33.599 Absolutely. Well, and, I think that, I think that we've 266 00:17:33.700 --> 00:17:41.670 reached a point in society and culture where people want 267 00:17:42.210 --> 00:17:45.069 to believe and want to understand and want to work 268 00:17:45.109 --> 00:17:49.150 towards making change and not just sitting back and believing that. 269 00:17:49.069 --> 00:17:50.730 They're at the mercy of whatever's going to happen. 270 00:17:51.619 --> 00:17:55.410 Right. That things will happen out of our control, but 271 00:17:55.819 --> 00:17:58.279 there are certain things within our control or certain things 272 00:17:58.299 --> 00:18:01.720 that we can work towards to make manifest or to 273 00:18:01.779 --> 00:18:07.299 make change. And people are finding that sense of wanting 274 00:18:07.339 --> 00:18:10.769 to be more empowered and feel like they

can be 275 00:18:10.809 --> 00:18:13.789 a part of what's happening as opposed to having. 276 00:18:13.569 --> 00:18:15.289 To be at the mercy of whatever's happening. 277 00:18:15.670 --> 00:18:19.470 Which is another reason why witchcraft and this kind of 278 00:18:19.589 --> 00:18:24.470 magical work becomes very kind of culturally popular and people 279 00:18:24.509 --> 00:18:30.339 become very interested in times where women are, you know, 280 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:34.799 suffering or being, you know, forced to feel like they 281 00:18:34.859 --> 00:18:39.059 are powerless. It's, it's one of those things where witchcraft 282 00:18:39.099 --> 00:18:42.059 is very much about self empowerment. It's about making change. 283 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:46.460 It's about being confident. It's about self care and realizing 284 00:18:46.519 --> 00:18:50.059 that you can take care of yourself and And you 285 00:18:50.099 --> 00:18:51.000 can make change. 286 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:52.119 And you do matter. 287 00:18:52.579 --> 00:18:56.579 And so if you look historically at times where society 288 00:18:56.599 --> 00:18:59.980 has kind of really leaned into this, it's often those 289 00:19:00.019 --> 00:19:03.529 times where women are feeling disenfranchised or feeling their power 290 00:19:03.569 --> 00:19:06.990 has been taken from them. And they need that reminder 291 00:19:07.430 --> 00:19:11.569 of they can still, you know, have that kind of self-empowerment. 292 00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:16.460 So are you pretty open where you live with what 293 00:19:16.500 --> 00:19:19.289 you do? Like when you're sitting behind your SUV waiting 294 00:19:19.309 --> 00:19:23.130 to pick your kids up? Do people in your community 295 00:19:23.170 --> 00:19:25.369 know that you do this or is this something that 296 00:19:25.390 --> 00:19:27.569 you're careful and protective of? 297 00:19:28.789 --> 00:19:30.349 I think that's a great, so I think that's a 298 00:19:30.369 --> 00:19:34.549 fun question because I think that there is, I always 299 00:19:34.609 --> 00:19:36.539 tell people when they're like, so does everybody know you're 300 00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:40.740 a witch? No, just like you don't necessarily know what you're, 301 00:19:41.230 --> 00:19:44.660 neighbor is, right? Like, unless the topic comes up, it's 302 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:47.359 not something I don't walk around asking all my friends. So, Hey, 303 00:19:47.849 --> 00:19:51.240 what's your, what's your chosen religion, you know? it's unless 304 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:53.579 I know someone really well. And at some point, we're 305 00:19:53.599 --> 00:19:56.700 having a philosophical conversation or something like that. It's not 306 00:19:56.759 --> 00:20:03.009 necessarily something that people know about me. And I, I 307 00:20:03.029 --> 00:20:05.210 think that was kind of another reason why for me, 308 00:20:05.269 --> 00:20:07.519 it was just kind of like, I felt like it 309 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:09.779 had to be waved like a flag or something like 310 00:20:09.819 --> 00:20:11.359 that until I realized like, what is it? 311 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:13.660 No one knows what anyone else is. Why would, why 312 00:20:13.680 --> 00:20:14.009 do I. 313 00:20:13.980 --> 00:20:15.869 Have to, you know, why would I have to be 314 00:20:15.900 --> 00:20:18.829 beholden to explain it to every single person that I 315 00:20:18.849 --> 00:20:22.490 run across? So the people who are closest to me, everybody, 316 00:20:22.970 --> 00:20:26.170 it's not, it's not a secret. And, uh, but what 317 00:20:26.210 --> 00:20:27.029 I say, I walked down. 318 00:20:26.950 --> 00:20:28.529 The street and people are like, Oh, she's a witch. 319 00:20:28.569 --> 00:20:30.049 She's a witchcraft. No, not at all. 320 00:20:31.049 --> 00:20:33.940 Uh, you know, that's one of the things it's, you know, I, 321 00:20:34.089 --> 00:20:36.730 I often will tell people because they also feel like 322 00:20:36.789 --> 00:20:39.630 very protective of their homes and your home is needs 323 00:20:39.829 --> 00:20:42.630 should be your safe space, your sacred space. People don't 324 00:20:42.650 --> 00:20:45.289 walk into my home. I know I'm a witch. Now 325 00:20:45.309 --> 00:20:47.230 the funny thing is the people who are witches who 326 00:20:47.250 --> 00:20:49.309 walk into my home, we'll look around and see all 327 00:20:49.349 --> 00:20:53.720 kinds of witchy stuff. But if someone doesn't know, right, 328 00:20:53.740 --> 00:20:54.880 they're just going to walk in and they put all 329 00:20:54.900 --> 00:20:57.299 this place is nice. But the thing that people always 330 00:20:57.339 --> 00:20:59.240 tell me is your home is so welcoming. I love 331 00:20:59.279 --> 00:21:02.740 your house. And I'm always just like, thank you. You know, 332 00:21:03.140 --> 00:21:06.589 They don't pick up on things, right? They just know 333 00:21:06.650 --> 00:21:10.130 that it's welcoming and cozy and friendly and warm. And 334 00:21:10.430 --> 00:21:17.190 so it's not something that everybody knows. It's not, I 335 00:21:17.210 --> 00:21:21.240 wouldn't say it's a secret, but I am lucky. And 336 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:23.500 I talk to people often about the fact that I 337 00:21:23.539 --> 00:21:26.740 live in the Pacific Northwest. You know, keep Portland weird 338 00:21:26.859 --> 00:21:30.180 is a very real thing. We embrace our weirdness. We love. 339 00:21:30.609 --> 00:21:32.730 We love it. I mean, the element of weird you 340 00:21:32.769 --> 00:21:34.730 have to be when you're walking down the street for 341 00:21:34.750 --> 00:21:39.579 someone to even take notice is pretty extreme because we 342 00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:41.559 just love it. And we're just like, you do you, 343 00:21:41.779 --> 00:21:45.839 you know, it's great. That does not exist everywhere. And 344 00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:48.240 so I am very lucky and I am very blessed 345 00:21:48.420 --> 00:21:52.220 to live

somewhere where I can kind of speak more 346 00:21:52.299 --> 00:21:56.220 freely on the topic than other people who I know 347 00:21:56.259 --> 00:21:57.960 other people who live in other parts of the country 348 00:21:58.859 --> 00:22:02.569 who have had careers ruined. who've lost jobs, who've had 349 00:22:02.750 --> 00:22:13.529 their personal lives threatened. It exists wildly in different cultural 350 00:22:13.589 --> 00:22:16.450 facets across the country. So I am lucky enough to 351 00:22:16.589 --> 00:22:24.319 live somewhere that I can be more open about discussing 352 00:22:24.339 --> 00:22:26.980 things like this. One of the things that was really 353 00:22:27.380 --> 00:22:32.549 funny was I took a friend to a camping event. 354 00:22:33.190 --> 00:22:36.170 It was a Sunfest camping event. Super fun. It used 355 00:22:36.190 --> 00:22:38.109 to go every year. I haven't been just because my 356 00:22:38.130 --> 00:22:40.289 kids are older now and eventually I'd like to go back. 357 00:22:40.809 --> 00:22:42.519 But we had this event that we would go to 358 00:22:42.579 --> 00:22:45.960 and I brought my friends and they looked around and 359 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:49.680 they weren't, they came for me. They weren't practicing witch 360 00:22:49.759 --> 00:22:52.319 or pagan or anything like that. And I remember the 361 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:53.559 first night and they looked at me and they go, 362 00:22:53.700 --> 00:22:56.690 it's just camping. And I laughed and I was like, 363 00:22:56.750 --> 00:22:58.619 what did you, what did you think it was going 364 00:22:58.630 --> 00:23:00.160 to be? You know what I mean? Like, cause then 365 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:02.799 I was interested, right? Like, what did you think was 366 00:23:02.819 --> 00:23:03.460 going to happen? 367 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:06.579 And they're like, I don't, I don't know. 368 00:23:06.599 --> 00:23:11.059 And they're like, but it's just, it's like camping with friends. 369 00:23:11.259 --> 00:23:14.589 And I was like, very much so. Like there's workshops 370 00:23:14.609 --> 00:23:17.589 and there's events and there's rituals that are optional. Right. 371 00:23:17.609 --> 00:23:18.930 And that's what I used to tell people is this 372 00:23:18.970 --> 00:23:23.049 can be as magically infused or as just relaxing and relaxing. 373 00:23:23.579 --> 00:23:25.680 being with kind of chosen family as you would like 374 00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:29.180 it to be. And I remember the other statement was, 375 00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:32.420 I'm pretty sure I saw one of my kids as teachers. 376 00:23:33.619 --> 00:23:37.009 And I know for a fact that that guy's a lawyer. 377 00:23:37.220 --> 00:23:40.250 And it's just like, again, it's that who did you 378 00:23:40.269 --> 00:23:43.210 think these people are? And I think that that is 379 00:23:43.390 --> 00:23:48.029 really important. I think that people don't understand is they 380 00:23:48.190 --> 00:23:51.849 think that people who practice magic or who practice witchcraft 381 00:23:51.890 --> 00:23:55.529 or things like that are these weird, strange, obscure people. 382 00:23:55.549 --> 00:23:58.970 And they don't realize that it could very well be 383 00:23:59.589 --> 00:24:02.069 one of the moms in the PTO, you know, or 384 00:24:02.109 --> 00:24:04.440 the kid that, you know, the mom that drives the 385 00:24:04.460 --> 00:24:10.099 kid's carpool, or your dentist, right? Or, you know, it's 386 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:14.640 anyone and it's everyone. It's not an exclusionary practice. And 387 00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:18.190 so I always enjoy when I see people who have 388 00:24:18.230 --> 00:24:21.799 these preconceived notions kind of having to wash them away 389 00:24:21.859 --> 00:24:25.680 and realize like, oh, this is way more common than 390 00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:31.500 I thought. This is way more. I don't want to 391 00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:32.960 I don't know if I want to use the word normal, 392 00:24:33.019 --> 00:24:36.579 but like not it's not obscure. It's like I said, 393 00:24:36.619 --> 00:24:38.799 you're you're going to walk through the grocery store and 394 00:24:38.819 --> 00:24:41.880 you probably you're going to pass by probably at least 395 00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:44.609 a couple of people who practice some form of witchcraft 396 00:24:44.789 --> 00:24:48.109 or have some sort of spiritual magical practice. they just 397 00:24:48.170 --> 00:24:51.819 may not be wearing, you know, clothes that, that scream 398 00:24:51.859 --> 00:24:54.700 it or that you think that that's what they look like. 399 00:24:54.779 --> 00:24:58.700 And so it's, it's dispelling those myths of what witches 400 00:24:58.740 --> 00:25:02.539 look like, of how they live, of who they are. 401 00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:05.740 That's kind of, that for me is the fun part 402 00:25:05.789 --> 00:25:08.750 of this book is, is challenging those ideas that people 403 00:25:08.789 --> 00:25:12.349 have and showing them that it's anyone. 404 00:25:12.049 --> 00:25:12.849 And it's everyone. 405 00:25:12.930 --> 00:25:15.549 And no one is, no one is discluded from being 406 00:25:15.589 --> 00:25:16.890 able to have a magical practice. 407 00:25:18.329 --> 00:25:20.910 It's not just the women in long flowy clothing who 408 00:25:20.970 --> 00:25:25.339 have the, my other car is a broom bumper sticker. 409 00:25:25.460 --> 00:25:26.720 Yeah. Yeah. 410 00:25:26.819 --> 00:25:29.059 I do know people like that. The, the, the ones 411 00:25:29.099 --> 00:25:32.240 who act as if, so you're describing. 412 00:25:32.740 --> 00:25:35.369 And I love that because there's a space for that, 413 00:25:35.569 --> 00:25:37.130 but that's not everyone. 414 00:25:40.069 --> 00:25:43.849 Oh, absolutely not. This is actually, it's a little early 415 00:25:43.890 --> 00:25:45.589 for a break, but it's a good spot in the 416 00:25:45.650 --> 00:25:48.319 conversation for a break. So, We're going to go ahead 417

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Walk a mile in 441 00:27:55.809 --> 00:28:02.789 my shoes. Well, before you abuse, criticize, and accuse. Walk 442 00:28:02.869 --> 00:28:05.190 a mile in my shoes. 443 00:28:08.730 --> 00:28:13.299 Welcome back to Celestial Compass. We're talking today with Kanani Soleil, 444 00:28:13.500 --> 00:28:18.740 author of Witchcraft in the Cul-de-sac, Practicing Magic in Suburbia. 445 00:28:19.259 --> 00:28:21.839 And just before the break, you were mentioning, you know, 446 00:28:22.500 --> 00:28:24.460 being able to walk down, walking down the street and 447 00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:27.460 not knowing, being able to automatically know who does this 448 00:28:27.500 --> 00:28:29.730 and who doesn't. You might be surprised and you, could 449 00:28:29.750 --> 00:28:32.130 be passing by people in the grocery store, which leads 450 00:28:32.170 --> 00:28:34.920 me to, you have a very interesting, well, everything in 451 00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:37.519 your book is interesting, but the chapter or the section 452 00:28:37.660 --> 00:28:43.509 on supplies I found really, really helpful. So could you 453 00:28:43.589 --> 00:28:44.349 expand on that? 454 00:28:44.369 --> 00:28:45.950 Yeah. 455 00:28:46.029 --> 00:28:49.869 One of the things I talk about is how one 456 00:28:49.910 --> 00:28:51.990 of the benefits of being a witch in the suburbs 457 00:28:52.109 --> 00:28:55.710 is your ease of access to everything. You know, when 458 00:28:55.890 --> 00:28:58.390 oftentimes if you live in a very urban environment or 459 00:28:58.410 --> 00:29:03.710 a very rural environment, sometimes having things delivered can be difficult, right? 460 00:29:03.789 --> 00:29:06.430 Or things like that. And you may not be able 461 00:29:06.450 --> 00:29:07.490 to just walk. 462 00:29:07.150 --> 00:29:08.849 Somewhere and get something easily. 463 00:29:08.869 --> 00:29:13.609 Whereas in the suburbs, you can throw a rock and 464 00:29:13.789 --> 00:29:16.769 pretty much find your magical supplies wherever you're able to 465 00:29:17.049 --> 00:29:21.450 land because you're surrounded by grocery stores and big box 466 00:29:21.470 --> 00:29:25.839 stores and dollar stores and all kinds of different places 467 00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:28.700 that you may not think of when you think of 468 00:29:29.140 --> 00:29:33.180 buying your magical supplies. And so, you know, that's part 469 00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:35.589 of where I talk about a lot of people when 470 00:29:35.630 --> 00:29:38.349 they talk about wanting to maybe do something like this. 471 00:29:38.369 --> 00:29:39.390 They're like, I just don't have time. 472 00:29:39.410 --> 00:29:40.240 I don't have. 473 00:29:40.190 --> 00:29:42.779 Time to add more things to my you know real 474 00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:45.119 to-do list when would I have time to go buy 475 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:49.259 magical supplies things like that you can get most of 476 00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:52.339 the herbs that you would want to get at a 477 00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:55.200 grocery store Most of the herbs that you might like 478 00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:57.380 to use in your witchcraft practice, you can buy and 479 00:29:57.420 --> 00:29:59.269 just add to your grocery list and you can get 480 00:29:59.289 --> 00:30:02.849 it at the grocery store. You can find often candles 481 00:30:02.910 --> 00:30:04.849 and tea lights at the grocery store. You can often 482 00:30:04.890 --> 00:30:09.750 even find incense sticks at a grocery store. There's all 483 00:30:09.829 --> 00:30:16.450 kinds of different things that you don't necessarily need to get. 484 00:30:16.490 --> 00:30:23.799 I always talk about I love to buy witchcraft supplies 485 00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:28.339 from witchcraft stores and or witchcraft vendors that I see 486 00:30:28.440 --> 00:30:33.559 either at farmer's markets or vendor fairs or the stores 487 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:35.819 that are around me because I kind of, I talk 488 00:30:35.859 --> 00:30:38.220 about it like it's, it's like a, it's a witch 489 00:30:38.289 -->

00:30:41.950 life hack, like buying a cake mix, right? Like someone's 490 00:30:42.029 --> 00:30:46.069 already done 80% of the work for you and they've 491 00:30:46.089 --> 00:30:51.210 already pre-infused this with all this wonderful, magical energy and intense. So, 492 00:30:51.789 --> 00:30:54.390 You're already like a lot of the way there. And 493 00:30:54.490 --> 00:30:57.750 so I don't ever say like, it's not better to 494 00:30:57.809 --> 00:31:01.210 buy it from those places. It's pre-infused. To me, it's 495 00:31:01.250 --> 00:31:04.220 like the cake mix version of the witchy life hack 496 00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:07.500 of it's already been infused with these things. You don't 497 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:08.940 need to worry about doing that yourself. 498 00:31:09.059 --> 00:31:09.720 So it's nice. 499 00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:13.980 However, in a pinch, you're like, oh no, I wanted 500 00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:16.619 to do a full moon thing tonight. I forgot to 501 00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:19.390 buy my white candle. You can get one at the 502 00:31:19.490 --> 00:31:23.089 grocery store. We need to go buy the groceries we 503 00:31:23.109 --> 00:31:25.710 were going to buy for dinner that night. Something like that. Like, 504 00:31:26.269 --> 00:31:30.910 it is okay to get your supplies from a non-magical 505 00:31:30.970 --> 00:31:34.470 place if that's where you need to get your supplies. Or, 506 00:31:34.569 --> 00:31:38.009 you know, to kind of cobble that together yourself. It 507 00:31:38.029 --> 00:31:40.640 doesn't have to come from a magical store. Like I said, 508 00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:43.000 there's benefit. I love to do it. I buy it 509 00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:43.720 all the time. 510 00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:44.819 From magical supply places. 511 00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:47.420 Like I said, someone else has pre-infused it for me. 512 00:31:47.660 --> 00:31:49.890 I love it. but I don't have to. 513 00:31:50.009 --> 00:31:51.950 I also have other supplies that I use that I've 514 00:31:52.049 --> 00:31:56.670 grown myself or that I've procured from, you know, inexpensive places, 515 00:31:57.069 --> 00:32:01.390 things like that. And so it's really not, especially in 516 00:32:01.410 --> 00:32:05.029 the suburbs, it's so easy to get your hands on. 517 00:32:07.569 --> 00:32:10.380 So it seems to me that, so you're talking about 518 00:32:10.410 --> 00:32:12.960 just doing what you already do and being able to 519 00:32:13.579 --> 00:32:16.380 work or pick up what you need. And I see 520 00:32:16.420 --> 00:32:22.059 that as a corollary to, working magic into your daily life. Yes. 521 00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:25.500 You have, you have a little, yeah, that's exactly it. 522 00:32:25.569 --> 00:32:28.029 That's exactly what my, I try and show in my 523 00:32:28.089 --> 00:32:31.589 book is, is how things that you do every day 524 00:32:31.710 --> 00:32:36.250 either already are magic or can be, you can incorporate 525 00:32:36.289 --> 00:32:38.650 something to it to make it magic. So these are 526 00:32:38.670 --> 00:32:40.650 things you do every day. So you're not having to 527 00:32:40.690 --> 00:32:44.029 change your day because I've got two kids. I work, I'm, 528 00:32:44.390 --> 00:32:47.329 I am as busy as anybody. I don't have time. 529 00:32:47.349 --> 00:32:49.529 I do not have time. I hear people when they 530 00:32:49.549 --> 00:32:51.779 say that, which is where I'm saying, like, you can 531 00:32:51.819 --> 00:32:56.000 just do, just do you. And you add these little 532 00:32:56.079 --> 00:33:00.680 tweaks and you've added magic to your everyday existence. Like 533 00:33:00.740 --> 00:33:04.420 I have a coffee tea spell. Like a lot of people, 534 00:33:04.460 --> 00:33:07.119 the first thing I do every morning is literally stumble 535 00:33:07.140 --> 00:33:10.200 my way out of bed and zombie walk to the 536 00:33:10.220 --> 00:33:15.269 coffee pot to get, get my coffee fix. And I 537 00:33:15.450 --> 00:33:19.549 have a coffee tea spell where I give a mantra 538 00:33:19.650 --> 00:33:22.150 for if you're pouring in your creamer or your honey 539 00:33:22.869 --> 00:33:26.269 and you're stirring the creamer or the honey into your 540 00:33:26.309 --> 00:33:31.410 tea and you stir it either clockwise or counterclockwise based 541 00:33:31.470 --> 00:33:33.730 on are you trying to manifest something? Are you trying 542 00:33:33.769 --> 00:33:36.190 to banish something? What do you say if you want 543 00:33:36.289 --> 00:33:38.369 to manifest something? What do you say if you want 544 00:33:38.390 --> 00:33:41.009 to banish something? And so it's something as little as 545 00:33:41.069 --> 00:33:44.049 stirring creamer in your coffee. That can be a spell. 546 00:33:45.490 --> 00:33:48.990 I mean, that's something that you're likely doing every single morning. 547 00:33:49.029 --> 00:33:51.730 And it's adding those little things, like things you can 548 00:33:51.769 --> 00:33:55.069 do when you're taking a shower, ways you can incorporate 549 00:33:55.109 --> 00:33:58.390 shower magic, things that you can do in your everyday 550 00:33:58.470 --> 00:34:02.440 life that you don't need to add to your place. 551 00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:06.460 And the other thing that I like to tell people is, well, 552 00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:08.719 what better way to get good at something than repetition? 553 00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:16.130 And our routines are our rituals, right? doesn't have to 554 00:34:16.150 --> 00:34:18.590 be something elaborate. It doesn't have to have a lot 555 00:34:18.610 --> 00:34:20.210 of people think of a ritual and they think, okay, 556 00:34:20.250 --> 00:34:22.570 you need all of these supplies. You need to say 557 00:34:22.610 --> 00:34:25.070 these things, you know, you need to, you need to 558 00:34:25.110 --> 00:34:26.889 call the corners. You need to do this. You need 559 00:34:26.909 --> 00:34:30.849 to do that. Not always, not always, you know, like

560 00:34:30.869 --> 00:34:32.750 I said, a ritual can simply be, you can have 561 00:34:32.789 --> 00:34:35.530 a coffee, coffee ritual and how you stir your coffee 562 00:34:36.090 --> 00:34:38.610 and what you say. You can have a shower ritual. 563 00:34:38.789 --> 00:34:43.170 You can have a, uh, um, I've got like how to, 564 00:34:43.409 --> 00:34:46.780 how you can wash your car. to like do a blessings, 565 00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:49.719 you know, protection spell, you know, all kinds of things, right. 566 00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:53.469 That you don't think of how to, uh, be more 567 00:34:53.510 --> 00:34:57.969 intentional with your food, how to work magic into, into 568 00:34:58.030 --> 00:35:02.070 cooking and things like that. How to infuse magic. When 569 00:35:02.110 --> 00:35:04.909 you bought takeout, we don't always have time to cook. 570 00:35:05.269 --> 00:35:09.150 Sometimes we're headed from school to soccer practice to this 571 00:35:09.210 --> 00:35:11.449 practice to that practice. We didn't, we don't have time 572 00:35:11.469 --> 00:35:13.929 to cook. We got a couple of minutes. We got 573 00:35:13.949 --> 00:35:16.090 something to go. How do you infuse some magic in that? 574 00:35:17.250 --> 00:35:20.349 And so just things like that to help people understand 575 00:35:20.429 --> 00:35:23.630 that this is something that you can work into your 576 00:35:23.750 --> 00:35:30.320 everyday life and include as part of just your daily routine. 577 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:33.780 Because like I said, your routine is your rituals. They're 578 00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:36.739 your daily rituals. And how do you infuse a little 579 00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:39.210 bit of magic into those things you do every day 580 00:35:39.230 --> 00:35:44.780 to add some magic to your life? and bring in 581 00:35:44.820 --> 00:35:48.030 that ability to manifest and create. 582 00:35:48.050 --> 00:35:52.809 It doesn't have to all be high church at all, 583 00:35:53.190 --> 00:35:53.690 at all. 584 00:35:53.989 --> 00:35:54.730 Exactly. 585 00:35:55.289 --> 00:35:57.829 And there's no right or wrong way, right? Your intention 586 00:35:58.230 --> 00:36:00.190 is a big guiding force in this. 587 00:36:01.889 --> 00:36:05.230 I think, I mean, I think to me, a spell 588 00:36:05.769 --> 00:36:12.860 is something that requires intention and action, right? So intention is, 589 00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:18.250 is not enough. You need to be doing something, right? 590 00:36:18.329 --> 00:36:23.349 So it can't just be, it needs to be an 591 00:36:23.429 --> 00:36:26.530 intention followed by an action. So sometimes the action is, 592 00:36:27.610 --> 00:36:32.420 you know, lighting a candle to release the energy. Sometimes 593 00:36:32.460 --> 00:36:35.719 the action is, you know, writing something on a piece 594 00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:39.780 of paper and then burning it. Sometimes the action is, 595 00:36:39.820 --> 00:36:42.860 like I always tell people with love magic, You can't 596 00:36:42.929 --> 00:36:45.880 just do a love spell and then sit on your 597 00:36:45.900 --> 00:36:49.139 couch and watch Netflix and wait for Mr. Right to 598 00:36:49.179 --> 00:36:50.880 show up on the door. That's not how this works, right? 599 00:36:51.139 --> 00:36:53.900 Now you need to take action. You've put out into 600 00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:56.159 the universe what you want, what you're looking for, what 601 00:36:56.179 --> 00:36:58.019 you're hoping to achieve. Now you need to meet people. 602 00:36:58.949 --> 00:37:00.590 You actually have to talk to people. It sucks. I 603 00:37:00.610 --> 00:37:05.309 get it. You know, strangers, you know, but you can't. 604 00:37:05.630 --> 00:37:10.630 It's not a magical wish. It has to have intention 605 00:37:10.650 --> 00:37:13.050 and And then there needs to be some action to 606 00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:18.019 make that intention come to fruition. And so, you know, 607 00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:20.739 just like if if you're looking for a new job, 608 00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:23.119 you know, you have you know, you're going to do 609 00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:25.460 your spell to do a new job, but you're also 610 00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:28.119 going to have to apply to jobs. You can't not 611 00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.369 apply to jobs and then wonder why you're not getting 612 00:37:30.409 --> 00:37:33.230 this job that you did a spell to get. It 613 00:37:33.309 --> 00:37:39.050 requires it requires action and it requires, you know, kind 614 00:37:39.110 --> 00:37:41.719 of you have a personal stake in the game. So 615 00:37:42.059 --> 00:37:45.699 while the universe may help bring you opportunities, you need 616 00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:48.570 to be out ready to accept those opportunities. If you're 617 00:37:48.610 --> 00:37:52.329 not available for opportunities, then the universe can't present them 618 00:37:52.369 --> 00:37:55.530 to you. So it is a lot, a lot, a 619 00:37:55.570 --> 00:37:58.929 lot about intent, but intent itself is not enough. 620 00:38:01.309 --> 00:38:03.900 Oh, I wasn't implying that that's all it is, but 621 00:38:03.940 --> 00:38:04.460 it makes sense. 622 00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:05.860 Oh yeah, no, absolutely. 623 00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:05.960 Yeah. 624 00:38:06.099 --> 00:38:06.280 Yeah. 625 00:38:06.539 --> 00:38:10.119 Yeah, absolutely. Um, Well, let's talk about like protecting your home, 626 00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:13.469 for example, or yourself or your car. Uh, cause you can, 627 00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:17.010 magic isn't just trying to make something, well, an outer 628 00:38:17.070 --> 00:38:21.090 event happen, but create a, a condition. So protection magic 629 00:38:21.110 --> 00:38:24.510 would be creating a condition, right? Sort of. Sure. 630 00:38:24.590 --> 00:38:29.269 Yeah. Protection magic is, yeah, you're, you're, you're not trying 631 00:38:29.309 --> 00:38:31.989 to create change per se, but you are trying to 632 00:38:32.070 -->

00:38:37.289 create kind of an energy, um, of protection. And either 633 00:38:37.309 --> 00:38:41.969 around yourself, around your home, you know, around your car, 634 00:38:42.929 --> 00:38:48.050 you know, things like that. Protection magic, I think, is 635 00:38:48.139 --> 00:38:51.559 really helpful because I think it also works with people's 636 00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:58.460 concept of self-care and understanding that it is important that 637 00:38:58.579 --> 00:39:03.300 we are kind of clearing the space around us and 638 00:39:03.340 --> 00:39:06.389 making sure that we are in a safe space. right? 639 00:39:06.429 --> 00:39:10.789 That we're cognizant of, of where we are and where 640 00:39:10.829 --> 00:39:14.699 we exist and what we allow in that space. And so, yeah, 641 00:39:14.860 --> 00:39:19.159 I definitely, I have, I have, uh, different things that 642 00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:25.050 I do for, for protecting the house for adding, I have, um, 643 00:39:25.789 --> 00:39:28.590 I have Florida water that I keep by my front door. 644 00:39:28.610 --> 00:39:32.880 And so I will often do like a salt water 645 00:39:32.909 --> 00:39:35.860 that I put on my doormat and I'll do it 646 00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:38.199 around my house. But I also frequently do it on 647 00:39:38.219 --> 00:39:41.900 my doormat just so that people who are of ill 648 00:39:41.940 --> 00:39:45.980 intent or not wanting to come and bring anything good 649 00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:49.889 to the situation, just don't feel comfortable they just don't 650 00:39:49.909 --> 00:39:52.909 want to be there. So maybe they'll even walk up 651 00:39:52.949 --> 00:39:54.670 to my door, but they'll just get this feeling of 652 00:39:54.730 --> 00:39:58.429 unease and just want to leave. Um, and then I, 653 00:39:58.710 --> 00:40:01.780 I oftentimes, like if I have a friend who comes over, 654 00:40:02.780 --> 00:40:05.480 who's in a really rough space, we're having a really 655 00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:09.119 hard time and I'm there for them and, and whatnot. 656 00:40:09.260 --> 00:40:10.840 And we talk it out and there's just a lot 657 00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:13.659 of big energy when they leave. I have Florida water 658 00:40:14.179 --> 00:40:17.500 that I'll spray to kind of help release the, that 659 00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:22.139 negativity and that negative kind of chaotic energy kind of 660 00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:24.940 back out of the house and kind of cleanse the 661 00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:28.849 house so that it has, you know, it's not maintaining 662 00:40:28.889 --> 00:40:33.789 that anxiety within it to kind of allow it to 663 00:40:33.849 --> 00:40:37.030 keep staying a safe, warm space for people. So it's like, 664 00:40:37.070 --> 00:40:40.639 it's not about not bringing that stuff in because like 665 00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:43.440 I said, sometimes it's a friend who needs someone to 666 00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:45.659 talk to. They need to bring that in. That's good. 667

00:40:46.059 --> 00:40:47.929 You can help them. And then you want to help 668 00:40:47.989 --> 00:40:51.090 that energy leave so that it doesn't kind of stay 669 00:40:51.179 --> 00:40:54.420 and permeate the house so that everyone is kind of 670 00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:56.179 left with this sense of unease. 671 00:41:00.340 --> 00:41:02.699 It seems to me, so just thinking of other things 672 00:41:02.739 --> 00:41:06.119 that you cover in the book, it seems to me 673 00:41:06.139 --> 00:41:08.449 that a lot of things that we associate with various 674 00:41:08.570 --> 00:41:14.510 holidays and traditions might be cloaked witchcraft. Like we probably 675 00:41:14.550 --> 00:41:17.989 are doing things have been for a long time without 676 00:41:18.309 --> 00:41:19.489 putting that label on it. 677 00:41:19.510 --> 00:41:24.239 A hundred percent, a hundred percent. It makes, I mean, you, 678 00:41:24.739 --> 00:41:27.260 you see it every, I mean, everywhere you go now, 679 00:41:27.420 --> 00:41:30.380 which makes me laugh. I mean, you're hard pressed to 680 00:41:30.420 --> 00:41:34.340 walk into stores anymore that don't have tarot cards, that 681 00:41:34.380 --> 00:41:38.829 don't have candles for purification. Right. And they call them 682 00:41:38.869 --> 00:41:43.889 aromatherapy candles, right? They have the, there's candles now there's, 683 00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:48.619 There's the tarot cards. There's the candles. There's what was 684 00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:50.059 the other thing I was thinking of that I just 685 00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:54.880 saw the crystals everywhere. Crystals everywhere. I see. I went 686 00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:57.960 over to someone's house who claims to be just kind 687 00:41:57.980 --> 00:42:02.920 of stonily anti witchcraft. And they had a sage bundle 688 00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:05.320 in their kitchen. And I'm like, I don't know what 689 00:42:05.380 --> 00:42:10.409 to do with this. I don't know how to process 690 00:42:10.449 --> 00:42:13.769 this for you. You know, it's just. It makes me 691 00:42:13.829 --> 00:42:18.280 laugh because there are so many things that are witchcraft, 692 00:42:18.340 --> 00:42:23.840 that are spells. And I had this conversation with someone 693 00:42:23.940 --> 00:42:26.380 and thankfully they were very open-minded. And so they understood, 694 00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:31.159 but I'm like, when people think about prayers and they 695 00:42:31.219 --> 00:42:35.860 think about sending someone love and healing energy, right? When 696 00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:40.329 they hear someone's ill. And so they're sending them And 697 00:42:40.349 --> 00:42:47.659 they say, I'm sending you healing energy. I'm sending you love. That's, 698 00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:53.579 you know, that's witchcraft. That's, you know, you are sending energy. 699 00:42:54.019 --> 00:42:59.949 You are intentionally sending positive energy, healing energy, love. You know, 700 00:43:00.409 --> 00:43:03.590 I'm not someone

who's always loved light, but that is 701 00:43:03.630 --> 00:43:08.769 definitely a part of it is you're sending that. And that, 702 00:43:09.929 --> 00:43:13.659 there's so many of these things that people do and 703 00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:16.079 they should do, and they're wonderful to do, but a 704 00:43:16.139 --> 00:43:19.920 hundred percent, this is witchcraft. You're practicing witchcraft. And I 705 00:43:20.019 --> 00:43:23.409 think that that's one of the reasons why so many, 706 00:43:23.550 --> 00:43:30.469 and also it works. That's why it's becoming so culturally 707 00:43:30.530 --> 00:43:33.800 normal and popular is because people are using, they're learning 708 00:43:33.820 --> 00:43:36.980 how to use crystals. They're learning how to use candles. 709 00:43:37.340 --> 00:43:41.219 They're learning how fragrance and scent and aromatherapy can affect 710 00:43:41.260 --> 00:43:45.079 your mood and how it can change and shape a space. 711 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:49.449 They're learning that these things are real and true and helpful. 712 00:43:50.429 --> 00:43:54.070 And so it's becoming a part of the cultural norm. 713 00:43:54.510 --> 00:43:56.869 But the reality is these are things that, you know, 714 00:43:56.869 --> 00:43:59.809 20 years ago would have been like, well, you can't 715 00:43:59.849 --> 00:44:00.110 do that. 716 00:44:00.150 --> 00:44:00.789 That's witchcraft. 717 00:44:03.670 --> 00:44:05.829 Well, witchcraft works. Yeah. 718 00:44:07.389 --> 00:44:11.909 So this leads me into something that I have very 719 00:44:12.010 --> 00:44:15.559 strong feelings about. I'm in a part of the country 720 00:44:15.900 --> 00:44:21.010 where there are a lot of self-proclaimed witches running around, 721 00:44:21.369 --> 00:44:22.010 or people who. 722 00:44:23.690 --> 00:44:26.210 Want to at least act like it. And there's a 723 00:44:26.510 --> 00:44:29.590 growing community of it. It's on the outskirt, it's outside 724 00:44:29.630 --> 00:44:32.849 of New York City in northwestern New Jersey, which is 725 00:44:32.869 --> 00:44:36.730 a spot I never thought I would find this before. 726 00:44:37.090 --> 00:44:40.409 And there's a bit of trendiness to it, I am finding. 727 00:44:40.949 --> 00:44:45.110 But I'm seeing this on social media as well. And 728 00:44:45.150 --> 00:44:47.280 I'm seeing a lot of stuff on social media that 729 00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:51.690 makes my naturally lifting eyebrow go almost off of my forehead. 730 00:44:52.230 --> 00:44:56.369 I'm just wondering, what do you think about the prevalence 731 00:44:57.349 --> 00:45:03.570 of people talking about magic and witchcraft on social media? Anything. 732 00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:12.900 Oh, that's such a big feelings question. My overall feeling 733 00:45:13.659 --> 00:45:21.300 about witchcraft being discussed like in pop culture, in society, 734 00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:28.139 I think it's a net positive because the more people 735 00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:31.179

learn about something, the less they understand it's fearful. I 736 00:45:31.219 --> 00:45:34.929 would much prefer people find it stupid or trivial or 737 00:45:35.050 --> 00:45:39.489 silly than that they're afraid of it, that they're afraid 738 00:45:39.510 --> 00:45:42.630 that these are awful people doing awful things, doing scary things, 739 00:45:42.690 --> 00:45:47.820 working with this Christian devil that is not a part of, 740 00:45:48.179 --> 00:45:50.989 of the practice, things like that. I would much rather 741 00:45:51.070 --> 00:45:56.269 them find it trivial than that. They are, like I said, 742 00:45:56.349 --> 00:45:59.909 terrified of it because that's dangerous. And that makes people 743 00:46:01.150 --> 00:46:05.090 dangerous and behave in scary ways. So I find it's 744 00:46:05.130 --> 00:46:07.079 a net positive kind. 745 00:46:06.909 --> 00:46:08.300 Of the more exposure it gets. 746 00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:15.500 That being said, it does not mean, and that's something 747 00:46:15.539 --> 00:46:18.079 I have to explain to people. is that doesn't mean 748 00:46:18.119 --> 00:46:21.639 that it does not have, uh, there, there's also a 749 00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:26.900 misconception that the people who practice this, because it tends 750 00:46:26.940 --> 00:46:30.769 to be a very progressive, uh, spirituality that they're all 751 00:46:30.809 --> 00:46:38.369 safe or that they're all nice. Um, and unfortunately I've 752 00:46:38.469 --> 00:46:42.219 seen a lot of things in, uh, I see it 753 00:46:42.260 --> 00:46:44.570 a lot and it, and it, I just, I chase 754 00:46:44.610 --> 00:46:45.789 my head because I don't know what to do with 755 00:46:45.849 --> 00:46:47.929 it where people like, I've been doing this for three years. 756 00:46:48.949 --> 00:46:50.969 I know exactly what I'm talking about. And I'm, I 757 00:46:50.969 --> 00:46:53.190 don't know what to do with that. You know what 758 00:46:53.210 --> 00:46:55.150 I mean? I'm like, that doesn't even make sense. And 759 00:46:55.190 --> 00:46:57.510 you said it out loud as if it meant anything, 760 00:46:58.139 --> 00:47:00.480 you know, it's, and it's not to say that someone 761 00:47:00.500 --> 00:47:03.760 who's practiced for three years can't know something, but, but 762 00:47:03.900 --> 00:47:07.099 people learn a little bit about something and then they 763 00:47:07.219 --> 00:47:09.070 speak on it with their whole chest. 764 00:47:09.730 --> 00:47:09.829 Yep. 765 00:47:10.949 --> 00:47:16.329 And that is very, um, I think that more for 766 00:47:16.369 --> 00:47:22.079 me just speaks more to humans, natural hubris and ego, 767 00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:25.440 which is, you know, just in all humans, right. Where 768 00:47:25.460 --> 00:47:30.559 they're just, it can get, it can get wild. It 769 00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:36.699 can get wild. I've definitely seen things, um, that make 770 00:47:36.739 --> 00:47:41.619 me go, whoa. And, and so I think in general, 771 00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:44.900 having it be open and talked about and something that's 772 00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:46.760 kind of out there in the ether, I think is 773 00:47:46.820 --> 00:47:49.780 really good, but that does not mean, like I said, 774 00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:53.199 that people won't kind of go to it and who 775 00:47:53.550 --> 00:47:59.909 are troubled or, you know, giving kind of misguided information 776 00:47:59.989 --> 00:48:05.369 or incorrect information. The one thing of, of I have, 777 00:48:05.949 --> 00:48:07.929 I am close to and have friends with and have 778 00:48:07.989 --> 00:48:14.670 worked with and know so many incredible magical practitioners, witches, 779 00:48:15.250 --> 00:48:19.369 people kind of in this realm, and none of them 780 00:48:19.969 --> 00:48:24.019 have ever said, you have to believe this. 781 00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:25.340 Right. 782 00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:27.579 This is the only. 783 00:48:27.420 --> 00:48:28.380 Way that this is done. 784 00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:36.880 Because that, to have the hubris to say that, You're 785 00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:38.980 not all with it. You know what I mean? Like 786 00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:41.880 you're a person. And so you can say, this is 787 00:48:41.940 --> 00:48:44.840 what I do. And this is what has worked for me. 788 00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:48.050 And that is what I try and do. This is 789 00:48:48.110 --> 00:48:50.730 what I do. This is what works for me. This 790 00:48:50.789 --> 00:48:52.949 is what I've done. It would be awesome if at 791 00:48:52.989 --> 00:48:55.929 least some of this worked for you too. It may 792 00:48:55.969 --> 00:48:58.329 not all work for you because we're not the same person. 793 00:48:59.230 --> 00:49:04.920 But My first inclination, anytime I come up against someone 794 00:49:05.019 --> 00:49:10.260 who tries to say, this is it, this is the 795 00:49:10.260 --> 00:49:14.449 only way, I've already tuned them out. And I've already said, Ooh, 796 00:49:14.530 --> 00:49:18.489 you are not, you are not a safe person. You are, 797 00:49:18.710 --> 00:49:23.880 you are not doing anybody any favors. Um, and, uh, 798 00:49:23.940 --> 00:49:27.739 I talk about a lot in my interviews. I mentioned that, um, 799 00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:30.840 one of my favorite and early on books was drawing 800 00:49:30.860 --> 00:49:34.940 down the moon by Margo Adler. And she wrote that 801 00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:37.960 book in a very kind of NPR reporter type way. 802 00:49:38.059 --> 00:49:41.119 I recommend that book to anyone that's really cool and interesting. 803 00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:43.480 And one of the things she talks about is one 804 00:49:43.500 --> 00:49:47.320 of the reasons that spirituality and paganism and this kind 805 00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:52.659 of a practice exists and has existed for thousands of years, 806 00:49:53.380 --> 00:49:57.409 well before there was organized religion, is because if you 807 00:49:57.429 -->

00:50:00.090 talk to 100 people and you say, what is paganism? 808 00:50:00.969 --> 00:50:03.750 You're going to get a similar answer, but you're going 809 00:50:03.769 --> 00:50:06.329 to get 100 different answers. They're not all going to 810 00:50:06.349 --> 00:50:11.070 be the same. And that fluidity is and an ability 811 00:50:11.110 --> 00:50:13.849 for it to be personal and ability for it to 812 00:50:13.949 --> 00:50:20.300 evolve with times is what allows it to continue and 813 00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:27.880 grow and really be a force. And so I think 814 00:50:27.940 --> 00:50:31.250 also because that was so integral in my beginning, I 815 00:50:31.289 --> 00:50:33.429 don't have space for someone who's going to sit here 816 00:50:33.469 --> 00:50:36.289 and dictate to me. I know the way, this is 817 00:50:36.349 --> 00:50:39.159 the way, this is the way to do it because I, 818 00:50:40.260 --> 00:50:43.460 that's great for you, but that doesn't mean it's going 819 00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:49.119 to work for a hundred other people. And so it's, yeah, 820 00:50:49.380 --> 00:50:53.650 witchcraft on social media is, it's interesting. It can be 821 00:50:53.670 --> 00:50:57.429 really fun, but I have definitely found myself in some 822 00:50:57.550 --> 00:51:00.650 kind of rabbit holes of wowza. 823 00:51:01.690 --> 00:51:04.260 That's a very polite way of putting it. I really 824 00:51:04.300 --> 00:51:09.190 take issue with irresponsible people. behavior online, which is, I mean, 825 00:51:09.210 --> 00:51:11.730 there's a lot in the astrology community, people who know 826 00:51:11.769 --> 00:51:15.510 a tiny bit and act like this is the gospel. 827 00:51:15.590 --> 00:51:17.170 So it's a similar thing. 828 00:51:17.190 --> 00:51:23.059 Yeah, very much so. I had a really interesting experience. 829 00:51:23.099 --> 00:51:25.619 It was about 20 years ago and there was a 830 00:51:25.619 --> 00:51:28.639 witchcraft shop that was opening near my work. And I 831 00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:32.940 was so excited because I didn't have that many then. 832 00:51:33.510 --> 00:51:35.630 That were that close to my house. And I didn't 833 00:51:35.650 --> 00:51:36.809 know of any near my work. So I was like 834 00:51:36.849 --> 00:51:38.030 oh my gosh. This is where I'm going to spend 835 00:51:38.050 --> 00:51:39.949 my lunch breaks. This is the best thing that's ever 836 00:51:40.010 --> 00:51:40.469 happened to me. 837 00:51:40.489 --> 00:51:42.510 And I went into the shop. 838 00:51:43.409 --> 00:51:48.099 And it was beautiful. And fun. But the woman who 839 00:51:48.139 --> 00:51:50.699 worked there. Who was the owner. Because I know at 840 00:51:50.739 --> 00:51:52.960 one point she mentioned. She was talking about her shop. 841 00:51:53.019 --> 00:51:55.500 She just opened things like that. And she was talking 842 00:51:55.579 --> 00:51:59.179 to another guest that was there. And every time she 843 00:51:59.219 --> 00:52:03.320 came in with an earshot. My ears plugged up. Like 844 00:52:03.380 --> 00:52:06.639 I was on a plane and I was like that. 845 00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:08.739 And at first, you know, cause especially when you're early 846 00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:10.590 in your practice, you don't pick up on things real quick. 847 00:52:10.670 --> 00:52:13.070 I'm like, that's what, that's weird. I must be getting 848 00:52:13.110 --> 00:52:14.730 a cold. So I'm trying to pop my ears. I'm 849 00:52:14.750 --> 00:52:16.289 trying to pop my ears. My ears would, she'd walk 850 00:52:16.329 --> 00:52:17.170 away and my ears would pop. 851 00:52:18.070 --> 00:52:19.130 I'd be looking, this is so fun. 852 00:52:19.150 --> 00:52:19.690 This is so great. 853 00:52:19.710 --> 00:52:20.269 I love the store. 854 00:52:20.750 --> 00:52:22.730 She'd come within earshot again and I'd hear her. And 855 00:52:22.750 --> 00:52:25.309 then all of a sudden my ears would plug and 856 00:52:25.349 --> 00:52:29.500 it would just be like, and after, you know, and again, 857 00:52:29.619 --> 00:52:31.800 I'm in my twenties, so I don't listen well. So 858 00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:33.820 it took a few times of this happening before I 859 00:52:33.880 --> 00:52:38.219 got the clue of this is not someone you should 860 00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:43.179 be listening to. This isn't the shop for you. And 861 00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:47.389 I never went back to the shop. And so I 862 00:52:47.690 --> 00:52:53.309 will notice that if I'm around people, sometimes the tell 863 00:52:53.510 --> 00:52:57.050 is that I'll have a really hard time understanding them. 864 00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:02.679 Like unusually so. And so then that's my tell, that's 865 00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:05.170 my clue of, I don't think you need to hear 866 00:53:05.190 --> 00:53:07.889 what they're saying. I don't think this is, this isn't 867 00:53:08.489 --> 00:53:11.190 someone you should listen to. And so. 868 00:53:11.210 --> 00:53:14.550 Well, I'm going to have to wrap this up. Unfortunately, 869 00:53:14.570 --> 00:53:17.250 we're coming to the end of our time. I want 870 00:53:17.269 --> 00:53:20.190 to thank you very, very much for taking the time. 871 00:53:20.429 --> 00:53:22.159 Would you tell people again what the title of your 872 00:53:22.179 --> 00:53:22.579 book is? 873 00:53:23.780 --> 00:53:26.239 Yes, my book is called Witchcraft in the Cult of Sack, 874 00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:30.320 Practicing Magic in Suburbia. And it is a book about 875 00:53:31.010 --> 00:53:35.670 Essentially just how to incorporate spells and magic and witchcraft 876 00:53:35.710 --> 00:53:40.800 into your everyday fabulous suburban existence. And that you are 877 00:53:40.860 --> 00:53:44.659 not discluded from this wonderful magical world that we can 878 00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:47.800 all live in every single day just because you love living. 879 00:53:47.619 --> 00:53:48.159 In the suburbs. 880 00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:50.940 And it's published by Llewellyn,

right? 881 00:53:51.659 --> 00:53:52.119 It is. 882 00:53:53.159 --> 00:53:54.940 And where can people find you online? 883 00:53:56.420 --> 00:54:00.769 I am at suburbanwitchlady.com. I am also at Suburban Witch 884 00:54:00.869 --> 00:54:06.000 Lady on Instagram. And the book will be in store 885 00:54:06.059 --> 00:54:12.539 shelves as of the 8th at Amazon, at Barnes & Noble, 886 00:54:12.980 --> 00:54:19.130 at Books A Million, and a myriad of other bookstores, 887 00:54:19.210 --> 00:54:21.769 mom and pop bookstores. If it's not in your bookstore, 888 00:54:21.829 --> 00:54:24.110 let them know because it's available for them to have 889 00:54:24.190 --> 00:54:26.789 in their store. I also have been encouraging people, if 890 00:54:26.849 --> 00:54:29.730 it's not at your local library, You can also fill 891 00:54:29.769 --> 00:54:31.639 out a form and they'll get it in the library 892 00:54:31.889 --> 00:54:33.480 and then you can check it out and it can 893 00:54:33.500 --> 00:54:35.880 be there for anyone who wants to check out an 894 00:54:36.099 --> 00:54:40.179 awesome witchcraft book. So yeah, it should be available everywhere. 895 00:54:41.300 --> 00:54:41.739 Excellent. 896 00:54:41.800 --> 00:54:45.269 I also mentioned bookshop.org. If you have a local bookstore, 897 00:54:45.309 --> 00:54:48.170 you can order it through bookshop.org and give that bookstore 898 00:54:48.590 --> 00:54:51.869 credit for it. So that's a big thing. Anyway, thank 899 00:54:51.889 --> 00:54:54.809 you very, very much. This has been fascinating. I wish 900 00:54:54.829 --> 00:54:58.840 you great success with the book. And everyone else, remember 901 00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:06.460 that my forecasts are at empowermentunlimited.net, the Professional Aquarian YouTube channel, 902 00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:12.070 and also OM Times, where there's a guide to Mercury retrograde. 903 00:55:12.170 --> 00:55:15.590 We've got one coming up really soon. So make use 904 00:55:15.630 --> 00:55:19.789 of this Venus retrograde, everybody. It's spooky season today. for 905 00:55:19.869 --> 00:55:23.239 real right now, go into your own darkness, make friends 906 00:55:23.340 --> 00:55:26.659 with the goddess archetype within you, figure out what's most 907 00:55:26.739 --> 00:55:30.579 important to you, and let that guide you through no 908 00:55:30.619 --> 00:55:33.579 matter what you think is going on out in the world, 909 00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:36.079 because it may not be what it looks like. So 910 00:55:36.219 --> 00:55:39.059 thank you again very, very much, Kanani, for joining us. 911 00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:43.110 And I'll see everybody again in a couple of weeks 912 00:55:43.210 --> 00:55:47.769 with a hereditary witch colleague of mine. Imagine... growing up 913 00:55:47.869 --> 00:55:51.429 in a family with this as your tradition. Okay. Bye now. 914 00:55:52.550 --> 00:55:53.469 Thank you. Bye. 915 00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:11.630 Thank you. 916 00:56:41.340 --> 00:56:41.699 Thank you.