النص الكامل لحلقة Welcome To The Machine, Please (un)Repress Yourself: The Great Cosmic Mother pt 4

don't like him. 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:09.360 Advancements in agriculture and metallurgy changed how men participated in these cultures. 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:11.519 That led them to want more stuff. 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:14.240 More stuff to own and to conquer. 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:26.000 These changes meant that they needed a new male god that wasn't obliged to the earth or more importantly, no longer obliged to honoring women as life givers. 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:27.279 That is the key. 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:29.439 Women became a tool to be used. 00:05:29.839 --> 00:05:34.079 They had to make up a new dude god to make all of this agreeable. 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:41.759 The cost for believing, you know, it's just our divine, innate human spirituality, creativity, and connectedness, nothing else. 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:44.560 That's fine. 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:46.240 Everything we're doing great. 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:46.560 Yeah. 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:47.600 So get ready. 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:51.360 Today we are getting into the nittiest of gritties. 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:52.079 Okay. 00:05:52.319 --> 00:06:09.519 The last few chapters where you and more outline the American split and subsequent spiritual deflation and the isolating effects of this on men and women in everyday life and in our interactions, in our work, everything and other stuff, everything. 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:10.959 Keep listening. 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:15.839 It is so mind-blowing that we regret ever calling something mind-blowing before. 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:16.720 Yeah, true. 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:18.000 I take it all back. 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:19.680 Even that total eclipse. 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:21.600 Well, actually, sorry, that is not a good example. 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:22.160 No, no, no. 00:06:22.319 --> 00:06:22.720 Terrible example. 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:25.439 So I just saw my memories, and that is still. 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:26.240 That's wrong. 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:27.040 I'll still do that. 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:27.920 I'll put it up there though. 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:28.399 It's pretty good. 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:33.040 Ju and Moore make such a strong case, we'd even call it irrefutable. 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:38.720 We'll do our best to convey some of the most affecting passages. 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:44.399 But just know that this is only a sliver, a small apple slice, if you will. 00:06:44.560 --> 00:06:46.959 Oh much bigger apple. 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:47.839 Yes. 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:48.639 Yes. 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:51.680 And finally, we can't stress this enough. 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:59.199 Even if you are not religious, your life is directly affected by religion. 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:06.319 And that is exactly what the great cosmic mother outlines in the most profound and poetic way. 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:09.839 It is so much more than a book about the goddess. 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:27.279 It is about the obliteration of earth-centered spirituality and the rise of monotheistic male religion, the same religious structure that dictates how the modern industrialized material world operates and oppresses to this day. 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:29.199 To this day, so bad. 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:30.800 So we're like so bad. 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:31.920 So bad. 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:33.279 Question for you. 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:35.199 Is that heavy enough? 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:37.759 You're oppressed. 00:07:37.839 --> 00:07:38.079 Hi. 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:38.399 Hi. 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:39.040 How's it going? 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:40.319 Yeah, don't worry. 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:41.360 We'll discuss. 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:42.720 We'll make it fun. 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:48.000 But first, we'll give you a sec to think about your oppression during this little musical break. 00:07:57.199 --> 00:07:57.920 You know what? 00:07:58.079 --> 00:08:02.079 That was such a powerful opener that I'm like, how do we even like get in there? 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:03.279 We gotta get into the book. 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:04.560 We gotta bite into it. 00:08:04.720 --> 00:08:06.079 I gotta I gotta quote. 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:07.199 You got a quote? 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:08.800 We would like to read you this whole book. 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:12.720 Yeah, so we're gonna read you this whole book, block off 20 hours, I'm kidding. 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:14.000 And join the revolution. 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:16.399 We are more convinced than ever. 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:24.240 Just look at what's going on in the world that all of this ties back to this patriarchal religion. 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:24.879 All of it. 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:25.439 Religion. 00:08:25.920 --> 00:08:26.240 All of it. 00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:26.639 Stuff. 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:29.839 It's in the savory of our souls. 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:34.399 Like when you read this, I don't know about you, but blood pressure raises. 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:43.600 Like I'm just like, and this I think I it again, I probably sound like the same person when we did the woman's Bible, but like 1987. 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:47.679 Like what have we been doing? 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:49.759 I mean, I was in seventh grade. 00:08:51.919 --> 00:08:55.600 I'm glad you asked because there was a giant feminist backlash during that time. 00:08:56.399 --> 00:09:00.080 And if you look, it is so nuts to think about. 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:02.960 So I think about like the 90s and the early 2000s. 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:12.080 You know, we talked about like second wave, and there was like more acceptance of like the queer community and like girl power, sexuality. 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:14.399 However, huge backlash. 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:17.759 I just got two words for you limp biscuit. 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:18.240 Okay. 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:19.360 Remember that era? 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:24.799 Just like creepy dude

era, girls gone wild, all of that. 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:27.200 That happened after, yeah, yeah. 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:28.720 Yeah, you're right. 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:30.559 That was a creepy dude era. 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:30.960 Yeah. 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:32.159 Limp biscuit. 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:33.200 We're back. 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:41.279 We actually are in a limp biscuit era, and that's why books like these vital are so vital. 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:42.639 These are vital. 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:46.639 This should not be sitting on a shelf anywhere. 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:48.480 No, someone needs to be reading it. 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:50.000 Should always be, yeah. 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:50.720 Open. 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:51.759 ABR. 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:53.519 Always be reading. 00:09:53.759 --> 00:09:54.799 Oh, I love that. 00:09:55.360 --> 00:09:57.039 A BM ABR Girl. 00:09:57.360 --> 00:09:57.679 ABR. 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:18.480 So even though I just said we're gonna get so we're gonna get into this book because we read the first couple chapters, we're talking about this last section, and we are right at the part where, so they already we told you last week how they're like, now we need a man god that we can tell everybody that's where life comes from. 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:19.519 How do we get it? 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:26.240 And we'll write it in a book, so then there'll be like this book that only certain authority figures can read. 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:26.559 Yes. 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:27.440 I mean, the whole thing. 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:32.159 So they externalized everything that was inherently internally ours. 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:42.720 Yeah, and they basically took away our life-giving goddess powers and made it disgusting. 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:44.320 They made it disgusting. 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:45.360 That's the short version. 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:46.000 That's it. 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:48.159 But what's the the craziest thing? 00:10:48.320 --> 00:11:00.000 That's what Dwayne and I are talking about, is people yeah, because America, even though we're like, oh, there are like the evangelicals are very prominent, but for the most part, there's a lot of people that aren't particularly religious. 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:00.399 No. 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:14.159 It is hard to get people to care because I'm like, whether you like it or not, this religion spirituality stuff is tied to the material world, it is tied to capitalism, is tied to industry. 00:11:14.720 --> 00:11:14.879 Yeah. 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:17.279 That this is the mechanism. 00:11:17.759 --> 00:11:18.399 The machine. 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:21.120 It is the machine, and that is actually the title of one of the chapters. 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:25.279 So this first chapter, it's actually the first chapter we're discussing today. 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:28.000 It's like the third chapter in the section. 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:28.559 Whatever. 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:29.360 You'll get it. 00:11:29.519 --> 00:11:30.000 Show notes. 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:30.480 Check them out. 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:30.960 Check them out. 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:33.039 It's called The American Split. 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:36.320 And Joanna has been sitting here like, let me just read this. 00:11:36.960 --> 00:11:39.039 Come on, they need to know about the split. 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:39.679 Okay. 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:41.840 Because you need to know what it is. 00:11:42.159 --> 00:11:54.879 The American split in raw terms is this nominal freedom without real life ecstasy or nominal epiphany without real life freedom. 00:11:55.759 --> 00:12:24.639 Such a split is always the result when life is fed into the patriarchal, dualistic grinding machine, which turns out globs of white fat or pours runnels of blood, which turns out tasteless hamburger, or the red screams of the butchered, which grinds out always one disconnected fragment or another, but never the whole feast. 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:26.080 Never holism. 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:33.200 Never the living, gratified flesh of true spiritual vision. 00:12:34.399 --> 00:12:35.919 Oh, there that's it. 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:36.559 There you go. 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:36.879 Yeah. 00:12:36.960 --> 00:12:37.840 It's like you can have all this. 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:38.879 You can have all the excess. 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:40.000 You can have all the burgers you want. 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:41.039 You can have all this. 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:43.279 But it'll never it'll never fulfill you. 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:44.240 You can have the whole meal. 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:45.360 You'll never be fulfilled. 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:47.279 Also, you need more than a meal to live. 00:12:47.519 --> 00:12:48.000 It's true. 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:49.279 You need ecstasy. 00:12:49.519 --> 00:12:51.679 You need like Molly? 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:52.320 No. 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:53.120 Oh, okay. 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:53.440 Sorry. 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:56.879 Oh, you're you're like, no, like true. 00:12:57.279 --> 00:13:00.799 True internal ecstasy and happiness. 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:03.600 You and Moore would be like, read the book. 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:04.320 Read the book. 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:06.480 They're like, your drug joke. 00:13:06.720 --> 00:13:07.279 Not funny. 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:08.799 She's like, that's part of the machine. 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:09.440 Yeah. 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:10.799 You bring it. 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:11.440 Yeah. 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:14.320 So the American split, that's when this chapter. 00:13:14.559 --> 00:13:17.360 So she's bringing she, I say more, it's two writers. 00:13:17.519 --> 00:13:23.039 They're bringing us to America, and America taking this religion to go. 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:27.200 Yeah, because it they had already now really so But they had to do their own thing. 00:13:27.440 -->

00:13:27.759 Right. 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:30.240 So it really starts Rome, right? 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:34.879 And then we have Europe that's it's spread Christianity spread really far, fast. 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:35.919 All of those religions. 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:37.360 Because all the leaders took it. 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:37.840 Yeah. 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:39.360 Because they're like, this is very useful. 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:39.679 Yeah. 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:47.120 What I didn't know was that most of our founding fathers did not want a part of that. 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:55.840 They came here to look for a fresh perspective, open land, back to nature. 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:58.080 They felt well, at least for them. 00:13:58.240 --> 00:13:58.960 Like I'm still. 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:00.399 Their version of it, yeah. 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:04.480 They were and she even says at least for uh white white men. 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:04.879 Yeah. 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:06.240 Like they wanted it all. 00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:08.000 They wanted all that thing for white men. 00:14:08.159 --> 00:14:09.039 I don't know about the women. 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:11.039 They were like, well, actually, that woman thing gotta use. 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:13.679 Well, let me read this before you read the Founding Fathers thing. 00:14:14.399 --> 00:14:15.360 Americans are free. 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:17.759 You're like, can you read? 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:18.879 I don't know. 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:33.279 Americans are frequently told, especially with the resurgence of television evangelicalism and fundamentalist politicians, that America is a Judeo-Christian nation founded on biblical principles. 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:39.360 Such a statement easily passes by all those Americans who don't know much about our own history. 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:40.639 And most of us don't. 00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:42.320 We don't, because by design. 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:43.840 Yeah, totally by design. 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:48.240 The English Puritans who first arrived to colonize America were highly biblical people. 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:57.279 So what I know about the Puritans, remember I did the little special Elizabeth Cady Stanton wrote a story about the Puritans selling or celebrating Christmas on the Mayflower. 00:14:57.440 --> 00:14:57.759 Yes. 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:02.799 And it is entirely inaccurate because the Puritans were actually nutters. 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:08.080 And like they're like, you do not sell, you don't give gifts, you don't celebrate Christmas. 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:11.200 They were they focused on the resurrection. 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:11.840 Mm-hmm. 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:12.159 Yeah. 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:13.759 I think they're that they're yeah. 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:35.279 This Puritan ethos worked its way into fundamentalist belief and Protestant capitalism in general, a profound conviction that the political establishment of America and later its political economic hegemony over the entire hemisphere, perhaps someday of the entire world, were manifestations of God's will and divinely mandated national destiny. 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:36.480 Puritans. 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:36.879 I know. 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:37.120 Yeah. 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:38.080 I don't think that was that. 00:15:38.159 --> 00:15:39.039 I'm sorry, tangent. 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:40.799 Just read the founding fathers thing. 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:41.759 This is what we need to. 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:43.440 This is I'm like, everybody's like, who cares? 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:44.240 Puritans. 00:15:44.480 --> 00:15:48.720 Well, it w but it to think about our founding, we knew that it was religion, right? 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:51.519 We've always been told what that why did they come? 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:52.559 They wanted what? 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:54.000 Religious freedom, right? 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:54.399 Right. 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:55.440 That's what we were told. 00:15:55.759 --> 00:15:56.399 We were told that. 00:15:56.480 --> 00:16:04.639 And then if you look at modern politics, you're like, wait, wait, you've always told us You've always told us this thing, and now you're saying this thing. 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:08.320 Now you're saying the Catholics can't come to the prayer meeting. 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:09.519 So weird. 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:24.639 So what the ladies say is that when they came religious, was religion was pretty much Puritan religious power was broken in 1800 by the second major influence on American life, the secular power. 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:28.399 And who and what was the secular power? 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:31.120 It was the Founding Fathers. 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:39.679 Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, John Adams, James Madison, Ben Franklin, et al. 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:40.799 Keep going. 00:16:41.360 --> 00:17:06.640 The men who wrote the documents and espoused the ideas leading to the break with Britain and the American Revolution, the men who wrote the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and in general established the legal, political, ideological matrix that became American government and American ideals of freedom and independence and thought of behavior were not Christian. 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:08.640 They were deists. 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:16.480 Deism was an eighteenth-century rationalist philosophy emerging from European enlightenment. 00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:26.240 Deists understood God to be the principle of organization and intelligence in the universe. 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:28.960 And that's kind of where I am. 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:31.200 I'm with the founding fathers. 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:33.839 We are of the universe, right? 00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:36.880 We are the universe. 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:39.839 And that is what they believed. 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:50.799 Deists considered themselves to be

decent and spiritually devoted men, but when they said God, they referred to cosmic law, not the God of the Judeo-Christian Bible. 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:51.279 Yeah. 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:51.680 Okay. 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:52.000 Yeah. 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:53.680 So One Nation under God, all that. 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:55.759 Did those guys even write one nation? 00:17:56.559 --> 00:17:59.279 They added God like in the 40s or something. 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:01.440 I was going to say, I'm like, I know my history. 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:10.240 So and some deists, including the American deists, spent a good amount of time and energy criticizing and refuting the superstitions. 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:17.920 I always call Christianity superstitious, dogmas and rituals of the organized Christian churches, both Catholic and Protestant. 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:19.680 Isn't that insane? 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:20.000 Right. 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:20.640 Did you know that? 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:22.160 I could read everybody this whole chapter. 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:22.640 I know. 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:24.319 I would be just the taster. 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:25.039 No, no, no. 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:26.319 This this quote is my favorite. 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:26.720 Okay. 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:26.960 Okay. 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:28.000 I gotta do this. 00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:32.559 So the Christian religions say there's original sin. 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:34.799 That's our fault because we're Eve, right? 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:37.519 And they believe in salvation through faith. 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:39.680 Like you, if you're good, you will be saved. 00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:42.240 If you're if you don't believe, you won't go, right? 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:59.119 But instead, our founding fathers, the deist, espoused the 18th century philosophy that defined human beings as one, essentially good, and two, capable of progress through knowledge, reason, justice, and liberty. 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:10.640 Deists denied the dogmas of the virgin birth, the divinity of Christ, the concept of heaven and hell, and all ideas of damnation and redemption. 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:17.200 Deism was in fact the origin of what is now called secular humanism. 00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:27.759 And it was the practicing philosophy of the men who conducted and won the American Revolution and became the founding fathers of the American government. 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:30.640 And we're just tossing them to the wind? 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:32.000 Is that what we're doing? 00:19:32.319 --> 00:19:34.240 And they invoke them all the time. 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:37.599 It makes me they're just shaking in their graves. 00:19:38.079 --> 00:19:42.240 The first American secular humanists, the founding fathers. 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:44.400 By the way, I I choke on those words. 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:45.039 I hate that phrase. 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:46.000 The founding fathers. 00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:48.240 Where I'm like, we don't need to call, you can just call them the founders. 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:49.920 By the way, the women were probably right there. 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:52.319 Look at Caesar Schaff as a loser now. 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:53.200 Exactly. 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:55.039 The founding fathers. 00:19:56.000 --> 00:20:06.799 The founding fathers, and in particular, Payne, Jefferson, and Madison saw this problem very clearly because they were children as well as students of European history. 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:20.640 They were also children and students of American colonial history and had observed how quickly the old inquisitional mind had flared up in the New World, in the habits of the Puritan. 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:34.000 The Constitution and the Bill of Rights were their attempts to save America from becoming one more God-centered tyranny ruled by holy men with a terrible bloodlust. 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:35.359 We failed. 00:20:35.519 --> 00:20:35.839 That's it. 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:36.960 The experiment failed. 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:44.240 I love this because I did not know Thomas Paine wrote Common Sense, right? 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:50.319 I will refer to Hamilton all the time because the lady says, I read Thomas Paine. 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:57.279 But he spent a good part of his adult life fighting the Bible, its God, and its ideas. 00:20:57.680 --> 00:20:59.200 This is what he said about it. 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:18.079 Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon than the word of God. 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:25.440 Dang, pain is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind. 00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:33.039 And for my part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest everything that is cruel. 00:21:33.440 --> 00:21:34.559 Except slavery. 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:35.119 Yeah. 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:39.039 Why do I always gotta why do they I don't know it was pain? 00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:41.279 I know that Jefferson Madison was quite butt. 00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:41.839 Oh Lord. 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:44.960 First of all, they they were all like scoundrels. 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:47.119 They're totally I love scoundrels. 00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:56.559 Um and uh listeners, in case we didn't mention this before, Thomas Jefferson took the Bible and cut it up and created his own, and it's available in the Library of Congress. 00:21:56.799 --> 00:21:57.279 Yeah, yeah. 00:21:57.440 --> 00:21:59.359 He was like, This ain't this is the Bible. 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:00.799 These are the nice things. 00:22:01.279 --> 00:22:06.960 All of the bloviating we hear from our modern politicians. 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:08.400 Bloviating. 00:22:08.960 --> 00:22:10.240 Do you like that?

00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:10.640 Thank you. 00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:11.440 That just came to me. 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:12.319 Must have been the mints. 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:14.559 It's the mints. 00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:20.000 So I mean obviously Joanne and I are very locked into this. 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:21.599 This is like our wheelhouse. 00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:34.960 Since we spent, I mean, the la we spent like almost 30 episodes just going through, combing through where we're I mean, Elizabeth Katie Stanton spent a lifetime for women's rights, for suffrage. 00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:37.599 She, you know, was an abolitionist. 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:41.599 At the end of her life, what was her project? 00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:45.759 Trying to get people to realize the Bible is the problem. 00:22:46.079 --> 00:22:48.319 That's what that's the conclusion she came to. 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:51.920 And I think you ever think about how downplayed that is? 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:59.519 If you had another professional, like if you had a man that spent like 50 fucking years publicly. 00:22:59.839 --> 00:23:04.720 That was like 50 years publicly, and at the very end they were they were like, I've come, you know, actually this. 00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:06.799 But because she was a woman, they're just like, whatever. 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:07.440 Whatever. 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:08.880 Dainty woman. 00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:14.799 This is if you're listening to this, you're looking for answers, I'm certain, because that's I mean, that's why we're baiting all the apples. 00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:16.400 Because we are also looking for answers. 00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:17.920 How did we get here? 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:24.480 Well, my goodness, if you want to talk about, we said in the beginning we avoided nuclear war for the other day. 00:23:24.880 --> 00:23:40.640 But even it ties to like Nazi Germany saying, you know, Hitler was led by a he was a crazed necrophiliac um who proclaimed he was finishing the work of the Lord, a work of mass extermination. 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:44.799 We see contemporary Iran, 1987. 00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:47.839 Iran, where are we right now? 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:57.039 Ruled by holy men who are executing seven-year-old children and lining their streets with the hung bodies of traitors against God. 00:23:57.759 --> 00:24:18.960 It is never to God, but to men's ideas of God and to the swollen egos of God's self-appointed policemen on earth that millions and millions of human beings have been torturously sacrificed in all the God-centered societies of the past 4,000 years of the patriarchal earth. 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:21.359 It's just the truth. 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:24.079 It's just unlike the simple truth. 00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:29.039 We have death stats that are directly related to this bullshit. 00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:30.079 Yes. 00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:36.640 And wrapping up this chapter a little bit is the effects of this. 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:55.519 That when we were talking about how they replaced a very connectedness of between people and the earth and our life forms, and where in you're most connected to people when you respect where life comes from, which is the female body. 00:24:55.920 --> 00:25:01.759 And then even when they wrap up this chapter talking about and like what are the effects of this? 00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:05.039 And I love this is just again a little taste. 00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:19.440 For generations, many people have felt they stood in a very dry, pragmatic wasteland, secular America, with no genuine tradition of spiritual celebration, of communal epiphany. 00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:22.400 Americans long for this more than they know. 00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:30.319 The Ursatz results are orgies of patriotism and game fever at parades and in football stadiums. 00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:38.400 But never quite the real thing, at least not as in a communal experience. 00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:39.839 I never even thought about that. 00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:41.839 Like that, so we do seek that out. 00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:42.640 Yes. 00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:56.400 And but we've been told because when they took, when they created the you know, angry male god, the jealous god, they took it as a separate thing that is like above us that we have to like die to achieve. 00:25:56.640 --> 00:26:07.279 Yeah instead of being like you have this here, and it does create this isolation and no there's no like national spirituality. 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:16.480 And that may cheese somebody out to say like spirituality, but if you think about it, if I were to ask any American, like, where do you think this country, like what's our thing? 00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:17.519 Where are we going? 00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:19.759 Yeah, where's our progress? 00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:23.279 Yeah, or not even progress, but like what's our like motivation? 00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:26.079 What's what drives like America? 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:28.240 If someone's like, what's our vision? 00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:30.720 We don't have like a national vision. 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:31.519 We do not. 00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:33.039 We just work for the man. 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:35.119 People are just like, well, it's money. 00:26:35.359 --> 00:26:36.160 I'll work or whatever. 00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:49.039 But there's no like I mean, I don't know what other countries are doing, but I know that I read Norway is like all up to like 90% renewable energy, the entire country. 00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:49.680 Yeah. 00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:50.079 Yeah. 00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:54.319 I'm like, so they probably had a national vision, like, hey, we should take care of each other. 00:26:54.640 --> 00:27:02.559 We should take care of each other and use like our smarts for the greater good instead of sending Elon to Mars. 00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:02.960 Yeah. 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:03.519 Or, you know. 00:27:03.839 -->

00:27:04.240 Anyone. 00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:06.160 So like, or helping one another. 00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:23.839 And actually, even less so like I almost, you know, there was like America Pride before, but now you're like, I don't even what is the goal to get Donald Trump or Yeah, because we're just helping everybody that has more money than us. 00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:26.960 There is no um, and like and while you're looking, I'll read this here. 00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:28.720 And this is the final word. 00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:36.319 So it's a great chapter talking about how America split and took it this almost to like a new level. 00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:50.240 Because it always seemed kind of like we look at the Western world, and I know some of the, at least from American point of view, like the Muslim countries were always like, look at them, and they're so like repressive to women. 00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:52.880 Like meanwhile, here in America. 00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:59.839 But the cost they they really talk about here, because things weren't, I mean, they were pretty bad in the 80s, but they weren't like I mean, now it's so crazy. 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:06.960 But the cost is this idea that we're all isolated, we're not connected to anything, and Americans left their home country. 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:07.519 Yeah. 00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:15.039 Now we have a God. 00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:20.240 We have got daddy God in the sky, miraculous birth, all of these things. 00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:24.960 So I do good here, I get my riches when I'm dead, right? 00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:27.680 But good is defined by these men that are in charge. 00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:28.240 Yes. 00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:28.880 Yeah. 00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:30.960 You're born with sin, right? 00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:33.519 So like you're always just trying to get rid of the sin. 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:36.960 The Christian dream has already been written from beginning to end. 00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:44.000 And it says that only one life was worth living, and it's already been lived, and it was his. 00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:45.119 Damn. 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:49.359 The best believers can hope for is an imitation of Christ. 00:28:49.680 --> 00:29:00.079 Christianity promises to save the human soul, but in fact, Christianity exists by saving humans from the experience of our own souls. 00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:00.960 That got me. 00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:01.599 That gets me. 00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:19.440 If we will forfeit our own mystical journeys through the world, if we will give up the dangerous adventure of discovering and creating our own consciousness in evolution, Christianity will give us in return a script about Jesus. 00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:23.839 And this is the only choice Christian ontology offers. 00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:34.960 The tragedy of Christianity is that it has kept untold millions of human beings from sinning, i.e., from knowing their own souls. 00:29:35.279 -->

00:29:35.839 I love that. 00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:51.119 For it is life that Christianity promises salvation from, from life directly experienced for the first time, without the stale safeguards and blinders of the prefabricated script. 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:53.519 What else do you need to know? 00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:54.079 Right? 00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:55.519 And I'm excited by this. 00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:59.519 I are you excited by I this I love reading. 00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:02.079 Yeah, we're like, I don't know why you're listening to this podcast. 00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:02.880 Just get the book. 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:06.000 Um this The Divine, I don't know why they named it that. 00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:07.359 I don't even feel like reading it. 00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:14.559 But I know So the next chapter is called The Divine Homosexual Family, and Joanna and I joke, we're like, this is the most 80s part of the whole. 00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:19.200 But because I don't when they say homosexual family, and they talked earlier. 00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:20.960 It's the Trinity, right? 00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:22.079 That's what they're saying. 00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:25.119 The father, the son, yeah, the it's an all-male trinity. 00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:25.599 Yeah. 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:31.599 The one thing that I love, or that I I don't know if I love this, but I love it. 00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:32.960 I love I love this. 00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:39.599 Women's natural religious impulse and capacity has kept patriarchal churches in business for so long. 00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:40.960 It's true. 00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:51.839 The female gift for spirituality, into which under patriarchy we pour so much repressed sexual energy, is used and turned against us by the male hierarchies of the male god churches. 00:30:52.000 --> 00:31:04.000 They cleverly keep women on their knees, scrubbing and scrutinizing the sacred floor, while they, a few select princes of the churches, rise upwardly in lofty clouds of worldly power and luxury. 00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:06.480 Religious women think they are worshiping God. 00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:17.599 In truth, under patriarchal religion, women believers exist only to service and inflate the institutionally ordained egos of very mortal men. 00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:18.559 Yes. 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:18.960 Yeah. 00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:21.519 And they talk and you know, that's what Elizabeth Cady stands on. 00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:23.920 That's how I see the cross over there so much. 00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:24.559 So much cross. 00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:29.279 And it is I mean, to this day, you look at all this, I'm like, churches run on women. 00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:30.160 Uh absolutely. 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:31.839 So do political movements. 00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:32.480 Everything. 00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:34.319 Or I mean, I should say leftist ones. 00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:34.799 I don't know. 00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:38.079 Organize, we know how to bring people together. 00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:39.279 It's like a natural. 00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:40.799 We're just good at it. 00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:41.920 And it is yeah. 00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:46.960 I mean, I wonder how much food women have like cooked for churches. 00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:47.759 Yeah. 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:48.640 Like so. 00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:50.319 Like at the universe size. 00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:51.119 Bazillion. 00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:53.359 Bajillion tons of tons. 00:31:53.839 --> 00:32:02.480 So they got rid of the importance of Mary by making her be a virgin birth, like the Holy Spirit touched her, right? 00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:02.880 Right. 00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:05.200 So that was the big push behind that. 00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:16.799 And because they did that, it has affected us through these thousands of years because we have to repress our sexuality, which is a it's a big deal. 00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:21.599 Um, like men can do whatever they want, but women are supposed to be proper, supposed to do that. 00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:24.960 And it really they tie it to the story of Mary. 00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:27.039 It's like just makes sense. 00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:28.559 It does connect. 00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:38.400 Mary, the only female now left on this divine scene, has nothing of the primal creatrix about her. 00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:50.400 She is a mere, lowly mortal woman, lifted up by Yahweh's divinely disembodied attention, impregnated by it, in fact, without ever seeing or touching a man. 00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:54.880 In the New Testament tale, there is no sex whatsoever. 00:32:55.119 --> 00:33:04.400 It is to a divine absence that Mary acquiesces with vapid humility, an absence that uses her without even having to touch her. 00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:09.680 And Mary, in our eyes, doesn't even gain the simple strength of struggling or choosing. 00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:16.160 She has no identity except for passive acquiescence to an absence. 00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:23.759 And this is how Christ is Christ was conceived in both his physical conception and in our conceptions of him. 00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:36.799 It is also fastidious, so non-textural, so celebral, cerebral, sorry, and unreal, so bordering on the sexually pathological in fact. 00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:39.599 So like it just doesn't make sense, right, to anybody. 00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:42.720 And it's just like, oh, but it's just, it's all in our mind. 00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:44.079 Like you just have to believe it. 00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:56.079 You just have to And that's why they're also like weirdly repressed and like weird, sexy time stuff and obsessed with like women's vaginas and wombs and stuff. 00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:56.880 Yeah. 00:33:56.960 --> 00:33:58.480 So look at Christy Gnome's husband. 00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:00.240 She he just wanted to wear our boobies. 00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:02.880 Which everybody, I'm like, go

ahead, but wear your boobies. 00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:03.279 Go ahead. 00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:04.799 Stop it and get your boobies on. 00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:06.880 But leave the women alone. 00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:13.840 So and yeah, in this chapter, they talk a lot about women's labor and contributions. 00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:19.280 There's a great paragraph that's like the burning question asks, like, women, why are you, you know, why are you giving all this? 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:27.760 And the I thought it was interesting, and they were talking about how much energy has been extracted from women to have these churches thrive. 00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:40.480 And in earlier centuries, where all the options for women were terrible, it was often a liberation for creative, independent women to enter a cloister instead of being forced into what usually amounted to brutal marriage and eternal childbearing. 00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:45.519 Many of the great women artists and poets of the Middle Ages and Renaissance were nuns. 00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:47.679 Oh, ooh. 00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:48.639 Yes. 00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:50.079 Interesting. 00:34:50.559 --> 00:35:00.800 Under patriarchal religion, maleness is made, invented, mass-produced, while femaleness is unmade, de-evolved, extincted. 00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:09.199 For over 2,000 years, Western biblicized women have been undergoing conditioning out of our natural powers and wisdom. 00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:15.360 We grew up learning to disregard the effects of our own rhythms, which are cyclic, like the moon, the tides, and the seasons. 00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:16.559 That whole paragraph. 00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:36.320 I can go, but so no, but we learn habits of ignoring them, denying them, trying to forget or overcome them as we live under the rule of man who conceives of time as something that can be ordered and processed in a mental mechanical category, regardless of the body's or earth's phases. 00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:42.800 Which if you think about the way we grew up, did you ever learn about your body's phases or what they were going through? 00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:43.760 And I don't even think about it. 00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:45.760 My mother because I like You looked it up. 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:47.440 Yeah, I would like to go to the library all the time. 00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:48.639 So I had no idea. 00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:52.880 And my mom, it's not anything my mom would think of because she had church, right? 00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:53.679 You had to go to church. 00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:56.559 It's conditioning. 00:35:56.800 --> 00:35:58.239 We conditioned. 00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:05.280 By the way, listeners, our parents weren't exactly like super conservative repressed. 00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:05.840 No, no. 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:06.639 And they didn't like it. 00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.599 Even though we just told a story that sounds very used birth conditions. 00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:21.360

But I do just yeah, I just think about if that was our experience, imagine some of these kids coming up in like evangelical homes and I mean you're afraid of your own thoughts. 00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:23.039 That's that has to be insane. 00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:27.920 It has to be really, really mind uh messing up. 00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:35.679 Like what but in bringing back to the theme of how this directly affects the material world, there were laws. 00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:41.360 I think it wasn't I mean, that's what um is it Margaret Sanger? 00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:47.119 Women weren't even allowed to like it was a law against knowing about your menstrual cycle. 00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:49.440 Yeah like distributing information about that. 00:36:49.599 --> 00:37:06.239 There were laws about so again, it goes I'm just punching this thing, but again, it goes with like if you think religion just because you're not religious, if you think it's not affecting you, this is like literally this this entire this whole globe running on it, y'all. 00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:08.559 Get hip and get pissed off about it. 00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:10.639 Get pissed and learn the language of it. 00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:13.280 So you can be like, naturally, yeah. 00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:15.760 I have a little quote for you. 00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:16.239 Yeah. 00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:18.000 You're like, actually, and here's a good one. 00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:18.480 Just kidding. 00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:23.199 So in talking about this, you know, the stuff you read about Mary, I mean, these are all so good. 00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:25.679 Imagine we're just reading you a few little tidbits. 00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:26.400 Little bits. 00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:29.280 These chapters are like holy crap. 00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:31.519 They're just filled with holy crap moments. 00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:38.480 Like literally, like where you're like, oh yeah, actually, I don't I didn't even listen to my body, right? 00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:41.679 So like we got to change things for our next generation. 00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:42.320 That's our job. 00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:56.159 Well, we talked um recently a couple episodes ago, how the like the first thing that happens when you're a girl and you're going through puberty, it's not people coming up to you being, you know, helping you or talking with you, questioning you. 00:37:56.239 --> 00:37:58.559 They're like, put a fucking shirt on. 00:37:58.719 --> 00:37:58.880 Yeah. 00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:00.159 Don't wear a tank top. 00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:00.480 Yeah. 00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:08.800 It's all about it's all you are told right away, like this is your whole body, your whole thing has nothing to do with you. 00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:09.440 Yeah. 00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:10.800 Has nothing to do with you. 00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:11.840 Think about it. 00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:13.360 It's so fucked. 00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:14.400 It's so fucked. 00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:24.480 So the female body, in other words, is politically subversive or has a lurkingly treasonous potential. 00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:27.920 All patriarchy is structured always. 00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:32.719 They like bold that in militant reaction to this potential. 00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:34.719 Militant. 00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:36.159 That's what's happening right now. 00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:37.679 Look at it. 00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:38.400 Look at it. 00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:44.239 Yeah, it's it's getting crazy in here in the in the US as a of A's. 00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:45.760 Oh my gosh, so good. 00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:47.440 Oh, and you already read the Marrying the Machine. 00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:51.039 So that's, I mean, scooted through that, but let me tell you what. 00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:52.159 It's not done. 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:53.280 We got so much more. 00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:54.000 We got so much more. 00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:54.559 Oh my god. 00:38:55.519 --> 00:39:05.840 Yeah, so the so we now know the basis, how we're stuck in this rut of thinking there's a savior outside of us. 00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:18.159 So that chapter sets up how the how the like body, how the female body is seen and used and situated within this the what do they call it, the homosexual family. 00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:18.559 Yes. 00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:19.760 Okay, whatever. 00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:22.639 I'm just I'm just reading what is written here, okay? 00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:32.960 And so bringing together, this is a whole theme of what we're talking about, bringing together what that means for economy and production. 00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:47.039 And let me tell you all the first method of control of the economy, you know, of capitalism, patriarchy, very first method of control is women's reproduction. 00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:48.079 Thank you very much. 00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:54.159 So let me just tell you about the machine. 00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:55.039 Let me tell you. 00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:58.000 So we're in the chapter called The Machine. 00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:00.639 Welcome to the machine. 00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:03.840 So this is about the modern world. 00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:04.239 Yeah. 00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:06.800 How does it affect how it has affected industry? 00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:13.360 For over 4,000 years now, female reproduction has not been an autonomous function of women. 00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:14.159 It has not. 00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:17.760 But an auxiliary function of patriarchal systems. 00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:27.840 And for the same time period, worker production has functioned as part of the same patriarchal, hierarchical, wealth-producing machinery. 00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:29.599 Can you guys get this? 00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:30.719 You're in the machinery. 00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:32.159 Are you do you get it? 00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:32.880 You're a car. 00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:38.559 Here's the thing:

everybody's in the machine, but women are a machine. 00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:39.440 You know what I mean? 00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:40.960 Like we're like part, we're the tool. 00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:42.559 Instead of being a miracle. 00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:54.559 Both female production and worker production being rationalized and reified by God as subsidiary and inferior functions that of the wealth producing system. 00:40:54.719 --> 00:41:02.719 They're subsidiary and inferior functions in the sense that they are disempowered, many controlled by the system to the benefit of the empowered few. 00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:13.039 As far as wealth production or actual value goes, females and workers are, of course, not subsidiary or inferior in any way, but primary producers of all wealth. 00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:14.800 Primary producers of all wealth. 00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:25.360 In both cases, worker production and female reproduction, wealth is produced for the dominant males or the dominated male system with its auxiliary wives. 00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:28.239 Because this hat Yeah, we talk about auxiliary wives. 00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:37.840 Well, because again, we talk about when you hear people, if you're like, there are no female leaders, they're like, well, so-and-so had a woman president. 00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:42.480 I'm like, it doesn't work like they're still in a patriarchal male-dominated system. 00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:43.119 Yes. 00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:43.599 Yeah. 00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:45.039 The big the big system. 00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:45.519 Yeah. 00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:54.159 By organizing what was once organically rooted sexual spiritual activity into coerced, mechanical, reproductive activity. 00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:54.960 Yeah. 00:41:55.119 --> 00:41:55.679 Yeah. 00:41:56.000 --> 00:42:02.320 Um, and they they go in through this chapter, they even talk about, you know, basically we have a lot of science now. 00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:04.559 And you could have a baby. 00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:08.000 And I'm sure in the 80s it was when they were calling them test two babies. 00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:08.400 Remember that? 00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:08.800 Oh, yeah. 00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:10.000 All the test two babies. 00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:21.599 So, I mean, they even go deep in here and they're like, you know, if they could get rid of us all together and they could just produce the perfect human without a woman, they would try to do that. 00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:24.079 That would be perfect for them. 00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:39.199 Or they'll just in the meantime treat us as a receptacle for their divine human fluid that they shoot to the womb and we grow it. 00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:49.440 It's the the the dichotomy of um how how do they separate their sperm from our eggs? 00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:57.920 And um so if if our egg and we don't control our egg, um we're bad, right? 00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:03.920 But men can just spread their seeds all over and waste them and not have a problem. 00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:06.960 Like I don't know, I don't know how they fix that in their head. 00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:08.159 Like with the Bible. 00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:10.400 With the Bible, but that's how they fix it. 00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:13.920 If anything doesn't make sense, just be like, well, well, it must must be Jesus. 00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:15.599 Must be Jesus. 00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:23.840 I found this chapter sad and also just a lot of truths that we're living is the truths. 00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:29.679 That idea, this really does like hit there's a ton about uh reproductive. 00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:31.760 And yeah, controlling reproductive. 00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:42.880 So like some countries they're like, ooh, we need less babies, so they the government controls it but via religion and and just ridiculous patriarchal thoughts. 00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:45.199 Or like we need more, so have 'em. 00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:48.960 Or in China we need just girls or just boys, and we'll control it. 00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:54.320 So it's instead of if it's like a it's the Rouge factory down the river. 00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:54.800 Yeah. 00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:55.360 Exactly. 00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:56.800 Yeah, like we can just do that. 00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:59.199 Like we just need to make babies like this. 00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:02.800 And That is exactly their point in this book. 00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:06.639 How they're like, we took all of this, you know, and took the magic out of it. 00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:09.039 And I have, I mean, I do have more quotes, but did you have one? 00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:13.360 Um, fundamentalist fatherhood, how did how do they get it wrong? 00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:27.119 Um, when they tell us from the Bible's pages or the church pulpits that human sex is sacred only if it tries to make babies, and that otherwise the act reduces us to the level of beasts. 00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:30.559 How could they have got it all so mixed up so backwards? 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:52.079 When the preachers of all of preachers of all time denounce Eve and through her all women for our innately devilish sexuality, how is it that they make the horrible mistake of confusing what demonizes us with what humanizes us? 00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:58.559 The answer is one, because the Bronze Age priesthoods were members of the pastoral tribe. 00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:19.599 Because of the assholes and their new patriarchal ideas of God and human intercourse derived from cattle breeding, and two, because female sexual uh autonomy represented the ancient Neolithic goddess religion, which these priesthoods had set out to demonize and destroy. 00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:31.199 The biblical god was indeed a jealous god, and it was precisely the goddess, her woman, and human pleasure that he was so jealous of. 00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:34.000 So they're like, you can't have it. 00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:34.559 Right.

00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:38.320 You're having fun, you're enjoying it, it looks magical. 00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:42.480 I will create a god that needs you not. 00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:46.400 Why am I laughing when I'm like, this is horrible? 00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:48.400 Need you not. 00:45:56.320 --> 00:46:00.559 So that's what this chapter makes the case where they're like, that's not a separation. 00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:10.639 Like workers being exploited by the wealth class is no different than women than w women's wombs being exploited by the work. 00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:11.360 Yeah. 00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:12.880 I mean, I'm simplifying that a lot. 00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:14.960 But so here's my quote. 00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:15.920 That makes sense. 00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:40.000 In the present situation, if males do not join with women workers to fight for female reproductive autonomy along with workers' rights, then males have no other place to go except to join the National Guards, the SWAT teams, the goon squads, gearing up everywhere to help colonize and exploit their own country women as slave workers and breeding machines. 00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:46.559 These are the only two options left for political men or in a totally politicized world for all men. 00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:50.880 This is where I get sad because I feel like we lost already. 00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:56.960 First of all, life is we're we're on a spiral, nothing's done. 00:46:57.119 --> 00:46:57.360 Okay. 00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:06.639 So but it's so long as governments can control female reproduction in any way, the workforce can be equally controlled. 00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:08.559 I'm gonna repeat that. 00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:20.320 So long as governments can control female reproduction in any way, the workforce can be equally controlled. 00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:27.440 No one can be free unless females are free to control our own sex and our own reproduction. 00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:36.639 If we don't control our own bodies, they are controlled by the boss, and that keeps the boss in power forever. 00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:39.599 Forever. 00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:44.079 I have nothing else to say except for a lot more. 00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:44.719 A lot more. 00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:45.360 I'm just kidding. 00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:49.599 But that really is that's all that's the my takeaway from Okay, you're right. 00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:52.000 What is that just your face? 00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:52.719 You just look at it. 00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:56.480 I think I just caused I just caused clinical depression right in front of my face. 00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:02.239 Because I get I cross between like we can change things and then it's too late. 00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:03.599 Uh no fucking way. 00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:04.559 So deep. 00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:10.079 And I can be like like depressed, but I also am like, I just it's not over. 00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:15.119 What just because some like some like douchebags are in charge for a bit? 00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:15.599 Come on. 00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:16.320 I know. 00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:19.760 I guess it would be better if it wasn't almost every country. 00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:21.119 But yeah, that is hard. 00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:22.159 It's a global situation. 00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:28.960 Makes a little So this is my question for you now that I've depressed you with that passage. 00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:30.400 Yes, thank you so much. 00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:42.400 But after reading these chapters, and yes, it does feel like it's an entire global creep on this patriarchal machine, all of that. 00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:49.440 But doesn't it give you more insight into how desperately they are trying to cling on to this? 00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:56.880 Because if you think about your everyday life and the women you know, we're not nobody's having any of this shit. 00:48:57.199 --> 00:49:02.000 I mean, yes, there's a few, like you Yeah, there's gonna be a few and the ultra religious. 00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:08.800 And I I think I mean it is gonna have to be women that like lead the way, right? 00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:09.679 There's no other way. 00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:16.960 But if labor and you know the left do not align with women, that we will forever be fucked. 00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:26.239 Yeah, and that for some reason And they don't take it as much of a like they don't take it, even though it's half the population, a hundred percent of them came from women. 00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:26.719 Right. 00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:33.440 And I still do not make this like a major issue, like a top issue. 00:49:33.679 --> 00:49:34.000 Yeah. 00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:34.639 Mm-hmm. 00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:39.679 Yes, because they benefit from it in the teeniest, you know, in the teeniest way. 00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:46.480 Like we read about like we will abuse, you know, the overlords will abuse you, but we'll let you beat your women. 00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:47.280 Yeah, yeah. 00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:48.800 You'll get to be in charge of your house. 00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:52.320 It's a nuclear family, like, but you'll get to be in charge of your house. 00:49:52.400 --> 00:50:03.119 Like, so men are always by default leaders, so they have so much, they feel like they have so much to lose by by breaking down the patriarchy because they don't know anything else. 00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:06.480 But they just what they need is a nature bath. 00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:08.239 I thought you were gonna say something. 00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:11.840 I was like, what they need is a nature bath. 00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:23.679 Basically, we've been all men have been colonized by priest ideology, right? 00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:24.719 It's where we are. 00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:25.760 I love that phrase. 00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:29.360 That's the phrase of the book, like by priest priest ideology. 00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:30.159 Yes.

00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:33.360 We are all repressed, all of us, right? 00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:35.840 We're like you're oppressed and repressed. 00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:37.360 Welcome to this fun podcast. 00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:42.639 And like she even goes into like the repression causes all these other weird things to pop up, right? 00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:44.480 And I and I agree with that. 00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:45.199 Okay. 00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:56.320 Because it's all this um demonetization of females feeling sexual and and what what the priests have told us, like, um, don't enjoy this. 00:50:56.400 --> 00:50:57.840 This is just for making babies for me. 00:50:58.079 --> 00:50:58.159 Okay. 00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:01.760 I know it's gross. 00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:02.719 It's so weird. 00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:03.840 And we were raised like that. 00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:05.599 I know, it's really weird. 00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:06.880 It's gross. 00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:10.159 Um and it's like literally is just like in your cult. 00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:11.760 It didn't even like so weird. 00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:15.519 You might not even have gone to church and you would still be like, oh yeah, yeah. 00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:16.559 Gotta be married. 00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:18.159 They gotta be married before they do that. 00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:18.800 Exactly. 00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:46.400 The wreckage it has produced is all around us today, the results of generations of male hostility to the female, still manipulated and orchestrated by holy men of all patriarchal systems, reproduction-oriented sex, prohibition of birth control, the demonization of female sexual pleasure and autonomy, the inoculation of lifelong guilt and perpetual fear surrounding the act of sex itself. 00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:54.400 We know that all this has done nothing to improve the relationship of women and men, or women and women, or man and man. 00:51:54.559 --> 00:52:11.760 On the contrary, it has created a bitterly deformed and deprived, repressive, repressed machinery which functions as the mechanical, pathological energy source for all of our larger human conflicts. 00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:32.000 Perpetual seething rage and continuous violence, a world always and always at war is the inevitable result when men are told over and over from the beginning of their consciousness that the very source of their being is evil. 00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:33.039 Damn. 00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:35.440 Let's go to war. 00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:36.400 Exactly. 00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:38.000 Oh my god, you guys. 00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:39.199 Let's pray for war. 00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:41.360 They're praying for war now, you know. 00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:42.960 Are they praying for war? 00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:46.000 Oh, yeah, they pray to annihilate people. 00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:51.840 Yeah, didn't you see them all in the in the Oval Office laying their hands on the man because he's the chosen man? 00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:54.159 Oh, I thought that was an old picture. 00:52:54.239 --> 00:52:54.719 I didn't know. 00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:56.880 Oh no, no, this is for this war. 00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:02.719 I have just two short things. 00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:19.280 Patriarchal men have tried to pretend that males can be free while females can be dominated and enslaved, just as white imperialists have pretended that they can be independent and soulful beings, soulful beings in private life while publicly colonizing and brutalizing darker people. 00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:25.920 Now we see that everyone involved in a dominating machine is dominated and mechanized by it. 00:53:26.079 --> 00:53:39.360 And now we can also see that after 4,000 years of systemic physical and ideological domination of the female sexual and reproductive processes by men, there is no free man left on earth. 00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:40.000 No. 00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:42.960 So I have to read this real quick. 00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:48.719 What I was gonna say is some of these quotes, I'm gonna ask Joanna for them because we're already, we're like, whatever time. 00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:49.360 Woo-hoo. 00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:55.679 But um, I think, and we'll put some of these in the show notes, and I'll even put it up on the site because there's so many that I love. 00:53:55.840 --> 00:54:03.440 But I have to say, I wonder what our gals would think of AI now after reading this little section. 00:54:03.679 --> 00:54:04.079 Oh man. 00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:12.400 In the continuous spiraling of evolution, deevolution, biology is a spiritual process, and spirit is a biological process. 00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:20.079 Spiritual energy fuels our biological organisms, and biological energy fuels our spiritual experiences. 00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:37.119 Biology and spirituality, sexuality and spirituality cannot be separated without destroying the living holism and producing dead mechanism, robot sex, robot piety, robot labor, robot existence. 00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:38.400 I love you. 00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:39.920 Let's make a baby. 00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:41.199 Look where we are right now. 00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:41.840 I know. 00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:43.199 That's exactly where we are. 00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:46.480 People are killing themselves over their AI girlfriends. 00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:48.239 Yeah, you're right. 00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:49.440 Oh my god. 00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:50.880 Trip out on that, y'all. 00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:58.239 Oh, I don't like tripping on the I wanted to read this last paragraph and then wrap up. 00:54:58.480 --> 00:54:58.719 All right. 00:54:58.960 --> 00:54:59.519 Is that okay? 00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:00.320 Yeah. 00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:02.480 I'm just I'm so there's so many. 00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:03.840 I'm like churning and so. 00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:06.000 Oh no, because I read that thing about the labor. 00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:11.599 And then I and then I

accidentally said failed when I was looking for a word about unions, and I didn't mean failed. 00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:15.440 I'm trying to be uplifting, and we're ending religion. 00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:17.840 Yo, this is hard work. 00:55:18.159 --> 00:55:20.159 And I need uplifting. 00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:21.920 I hope this quote is uplifting. 00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:22.639 Yes. 00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:23.760 Is it going to be? 00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:24.639 This one? 00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:25.199 Yes. 00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:25.840 Is it? 00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:26.880 Yeah, I double checked. 00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:28.159 It's up uplifting. 00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:30.960 Up it is up something. 00:55:31.440 --> 00:55:32.079 I'm kidding. 00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:33.760 No, this is this is hey. 00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:34.880 This is three. 00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:36.079 So this is hey. 00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:38.880 So this is our the last little bits. 00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:41.280 And I know this episode was like a quote off. 00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:45.280 It was a quote off because there's like this is everything. 00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:46.960 Like this just made so much sense. 00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:51.039 And like it's a quote off because there's and we didn't even read all our quotes. 00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:52.079 Didn't read all our quotes. 00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:53.280 We want to read you the whole book. 00:55:54.159 --> 00:55:55.199 We want to read you the whole book. 00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:55.840 I do. 00:55:56.079 --> 00:55:57.679 But because Sandra can do it for you. 00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:05.280 But overall, that's we can describe, you know, the American split and then the divine homosexual family. 00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:07.039 Family, I can't even tell you. 00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:08.159 The American exclit. 00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:17.199 And then so women were excluded from the religion, but then used for to support the divine homosexual family. 00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:18.960 And that'll be the last time I ever say that. 00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:21.039 It's weird. 00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:21.519 I didn't make up. 00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:25.679 Not only support it, like be the founding rock of it. 00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:29.039 And then in the machine, it talks about how we're placed. 00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:36.639 So and I know I focus a lot on women, but I did read that quote where so women become, I mean, we're all part of the machine. 00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:41.760 And then men, like they said, you just be you can like kill for the wealth class if you want. 00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:42.159 Yeah. 00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:43.039 You can be a soldier. 00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:43.599 Yeah, do it. 00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:44.320 That's about it. 00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:47.039 Your reward is you get to like be mean and control your wife. 00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:49.199 And then later nobody else go to heaven. 00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:49.440 Yeah. 00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:51.199 But you get to control your wife. 00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:51.760 Yep. 00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:53.039 So here you go. 00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:54.480 This I hope this uplifts. 00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:55.840 I need to save Joanna. 00:56:56.000 --> 00:57:02.239 We either re become children of the great mother or we remain children of the machine. 00:57:03.039 --> 00:57:08.400 The opposite of life is not death, but to become a mechanism. 00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:10.000 That just got me. 00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:11.760 That means we're the walking dead. 00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:12.239 Yeah. 00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:19.679 So we are now already quasi-mechanisms living within a world machine. 00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:22.559 We must extricate ourselves from the machinery. 00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:23.760 Let's ext let's do it. 00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:24.079 I know. 00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:25.599 See, I told you we're already pumped up. 00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:26.079 Let's go. 00:57:26.239 --> 00:57:27.119 This is a good clause. 00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:32.960 Which is not truly either life or death, but the absence and travesty of both. 00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:34.559 Politics is important. 00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:37.360 Social and cultural activity is important. 00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:42.079 Everything that can be done should be done to change our situation. 00:57:42.320 --> 00:57:50.320 But these activities cannot extricate us from the machinery if they are still conducted in the terms of the machinery. 00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:58.159 Ontological evolution and revolution must be conducted in the mode of biology and the dream. 00:57:58.400 --> 00:58:01.679 This is the mode into which the machinery cannot exist. 00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:03.760 Only living beings can. 00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:07.840 Oh, we need to take the world back. 00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:08.639 Take it back. 00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:10.079 Take it back. 00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:11.440 And then take it. 00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:13.280 Oh my gosh. 00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:14.400 We're gonna take it back. 00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:17.199 And we're gonna this is revolutionary. 00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:18.639 This is revolutionary. 00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:21.039 The only thing I realized it was in 87. 00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:23.039 And that had like a sense of urgency right there. 00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:26.079 She was like, we must- She's like, we're like, we can act on this now. 00:58:26.320 --> 00:58:29.440 Although, you know, in geologic times, like 30, 40 years is not. 00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:30.960 It really isn't, I know. 00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:33.199 So but it was it was bad in the 80s. 00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:35.440 The 80s is when the pro-life movement came out. 00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:38.639 Oh, yeah, there's lots of stuff about abortion that is killer. 00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:42.639 And they're trying to warn us, they're like, if you don't know, and we already are. 00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:44.320 That's a little sad in

here. 00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:47.679 Because they were like, if you don't, and I'm like, oh, but we did. 00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:49.199 I know, but we already did. 00:58:49.360 --> 00:58:52.320 But I tried not to, because I did work against that. 00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:52.880 Anyways. 00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:53.760 Well, that's what you said. 00:58:54.000 --> 00:59:02.000 If it's if it is not to be too late for all of us women on a global scale, we have to do it now. 00:59:02.239 --> 00:59:03.760 And it that was 87. 00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:06.880 My reaction is to laugh. 00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:08.480 I'm like, okay, we're okay. 00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:09.280 Let's do it. 00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:12.239 I mean, what if you read this book in 87 and felt like us? 00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:12.960 What are you doing? 00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:13.599 We did. 00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:13.920 I know. 00:59:14.159 --> 00:59:14.960 No, no, no, I know. 00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:18.000 Like women, though, like they're probably got their old torn-up cards. 00:59:18.159 --> 00:59:21.199 Well, that's why you go to any of these no kings and it's all a bunch of old ladies. 00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:22.079 Isn't that weird? 00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:22.880 No, it isn't. 00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:23.599 It's all old. 00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:24.400 You just asked. 00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:25.840 I was like, they're all this is what they're doing. 00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:26.320 They're pissed. 00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:27.840 They're like, we've already been through all this shit. 00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:28.320 Yeah. 00:59:28.559 --> 00:59:29.519 We tried to tell you. 00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:30.159 Dang it. 00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:30.639 I didn't think that's a good idea. 00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:42.079 And that's why I hate when I, you know, again, this is more of an online world, but like you see people like, these liberal white women at the that's the only people that go to the I'm like, what they are the ones that are doing stuff. 00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:46.719 Just like they were the ones that supported the church, just like they're the, you know, I'm like, yeah, no kidding. 00:59:46.800 --> 00:59:47.840 That's that's who does shit. 00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:48.480 It is true. 00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:50.800 That's who brings your orange slices, motherfucker. 00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:53.440 So, ladies, you don't have to work in the church. 00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:55.519 You can actually work for the resistance. 00:59:55.679 --> 00:59:56.960 And we need you. 01:00:04.239 --> 01:00:11.599 So listen, listeners, if you stuck with us through this quote off, yeah, I'm dying to know what you got from that. 01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:16.880 And does it sound like when you're listening to it, does it sound as profound as feeling? 01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:22.079 So we set that up, and I depressed Joanna. 01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:22.480 Yeah. 01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:24.320 And I'm not depressed because I'm pissed. 01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:34.400 But we won't leave you hanging, being like, and so that is we so next week, and this will be this will actually for real wrap up the great cosmic mother. 01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:39.440 And we're going to read the last two chapters, which really are more about like, and this is the vision. 01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:43.519 And it really is the last chapter, it is so beautiful. 01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:44.960 Oh, it is like a poem. 01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:45.920 It's really a liter. 01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:56.159 But as we're reading this, I'm like, if anybody is actively listening and has it's like, so how do we transfer this knowledge into a movement? 01:00:56.400 --> 01:00:57.599 Maybe it really is a movement. 01:00:57.760 --> 01:01:02.400 It really could go back to like 70s style consciousness raising groups. 01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:04.320 Just be like, we're book clubbing this. 01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:06.000 And be like, hey, guess what? 01:01:06.239 --> 01:01:08.000 10 ladies, I bought you a book. 01:01:08.159 --> 01:01:08.400 Yep. 01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:09.840 And we need a meeting weekly. 01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:12.159 We need to start putting these in the little free libraries. 01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:14.000 Oh little free libraries. 01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:16.320 I'm gonna put mine in them with all the sticky notes. 01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:25.920 But I'm gonna put a book cover on it and it'll just say, like, how to get rich, or what's we need some like cheesy, well, be like, you know, kale juicing for Oh yes. 01:01:26.159 --> 01:01:27.840 And be like, ooh, kale juicing. 01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:30.239 Or say like what Jesus really wants you to know. 01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:30.559 Ooh. 01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:31.599 That'll be a good book cover. 01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:33.199 That'd be a good book cover. 01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:33.840 Yeah. 01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:36.559 What does Jesus really want you to know? 01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:41.679 The title of the very, very last chapter, y'all, is called Respell the World. 01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:43.599 We're gonna bring the magic back. 01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:46.000 This is how to do it. 01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:47.840 Bring the magic back. 01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:48.880 And the last. 01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:50.159 And the power. 01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:50.960 The magic. 01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:52.000 In the power. 01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:59.440 So I also want to know, you know, how are you listening to this podcast and what can make it better or more shareable? 01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:01.920 Should I do like, should I chop these episodes up? 01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:07.519 I last season I took one of our episodes that was about, well, we did two episodes on Genesis. 01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:08.320 Oh yeah. 01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:12.000 And I'm like, and of course, they're brilliant because we're totally hilarious. 01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:21.519 But I chopped it way down into one shorter episode, like a 30-minute one, just because I'm like, this is if you want to just know like the stuff. 01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:22.079 Yeah. 01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:23.440 The nitty-gritty. 01:02:23.679 --> 01:02:24.480 The nitty gritty. 01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:25.440 The gritty nitty. 01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:28.079 And um I don't, yeah. 01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:29.360 Yeah, do it like videos. 01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:31.760 I need to get back into making our short videos and all that. 01:02:32.159 --> 01:02:32.639 So tell us. 01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:35.760 I know it's since the Tic Tac, TikToks were so easy to share. 01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:36.480 They were so easy. 01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:38.480 You know, YouTube Shorts were on there. 01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:38.880 Okay. 01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:39.840 Yeah, I got it. 01:02:39.920 --> 01:02:40.960 Same with Blue Sky. 01:02:41.119 --> 01:02:45.519 So check us out on there, check our show notes, reach out to us. 01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:47.199 Send us a letter. 01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:48.719 With a stamp. 01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:50.239 We still have the USPS. 01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:50.880 All right. 01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:54.159 And maybe you have a book that you read that you're like, oh, they need to read this book. 01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:54.400 Right. 01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:55.840 Yeah, well, maybe we do. 01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:56.400 Maybe we do. 01:02:56.800 --> 01:02:58.079 We like to bite the apples. 01:02:58.480 --> 01:02:58.639 Okay. 01:02:59.039 --> 01:02:59.440 That's right. 01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:00.719 Send us your fruits. 01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:01.280 Yes. 01:03:01.519 --> 01:03:01.840 All right. 01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:03.039 Have a wonderful week. 01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:03.920 Stay safe. 01:03:04.159 --> 01:03:04.960 Stay sane. 01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:07.199 I was just gonna say that too. 01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:08.719 Stay safe and sane. 01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:09.679 Safe and sane. 01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:10.639 We love you.