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I said this.
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I see good.
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Bonjour y'all, this is Drew ProHaska, and I just got back from a wonderful trip through France, and I still have a good deal of cheese and red wine in my bloodstream, so I apologize that it took a few extra days to get this podcast out there.
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We're calling this episode Outcasts, and we'll be sharing two stories from folks who had trouble fitting in with the rest of the crowd.
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And what a treat we have for you, because kicking off this episode is a giant in the storytelling world, none other than Adam Wade.
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I was a fan of Adam's before I ever even thought of getting into live storytelling.
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If you have ever listened to the Moth Radio Hour, you've no doubt heard him a dozen times.
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You've seen him on HBO's Girls inside Amy Schumer, and he just so happens to be my birthday buddy.
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We were both born on May 22nd.
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So if you're one of those people who are into astrology, well, Adam Wade, who is the nicest guy on the planet, me, Morrissey, and the Unibomber all share the same birthday, so riddle me that one.
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We were all so excited to have Adam up and beacon to perform in the Artichoke, and luckily he had such a good time that he recorded his comedy special, Adam Wade Small Town Lover, on the Artichoke's main stage, which you can watch for free on YouTube.
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Now here's Adam Wade from May of 2025 with his story Saturday Nights at the Clam King.
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So my name is Adam Wade, and I I'm originally from New Hampshire, uh the state of New Hampshire.
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And uh my high school years, I I struggled to fit in um with kids my own age.
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Uh I I was uh in the marching band, my freshman year, I played the alto saxophone.
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Uh and at the end of the year, the last day of school, the band conductor called me into his office and he said, have a seat.
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And he said, uh, Adam, I've been here for 35 years and I've never said what I'm about to say.
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He said, uh, Adam, you are not mentally or physically able to handle the rigors of marching band.
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I was on the men's varsity golf team.
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Callback as a reserve.
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So technically, I I wasn't on the men's golf team.
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I didn't have a lot of friends.
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One of my friends went by the nickname Fetus.
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He was a little kid, he looked like a fetus.
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He was a good kid, he was a good kid, he was a nice boy,
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he was a nice boy.
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So on a scale one to ten, if one is popular and ten is not popular, I was like a two.
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But on Saturday nights in the company I kept, I was without a doubt a 10 out of 10.
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And every Saturday night through my high school years, I went out with my grandmother and my great aunt uh to dinner.
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And uh prior to that, uh they'd always pick me up.
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Uh, but a big moment in my life when I turned 16, I got my driver's license.
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To them, I became a man, and I started to um pick them up and drive.
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I became their chauffeur.
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I became their chauffeur.
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So I'm Greek, it was my yaya, my grandmother, that's what we call my grandmother, and her sister, my great-aunt Auntariti.
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Now both of them were widows.
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Uh they lived in this little house together, and they were both retired from the Amuskag shoe factories in my town.
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Uh, my Yaya for 54 years put shoes together.
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So she worked on the main line manual labor and she put shoes together until her body just gave out and she had to retire.
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And after her retirement, her hands they looked like the skins of potatoes from all from all that work.
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And uh my Anna Riti was uh the glamorous of the two.
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She was a secretary in the shoe factories.
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And long after her retirement, uh, she was always, no matter where we went, she would be dressed to the nines uh with the lipstick on, with, with, with her high heels, uh, with her aim.
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She had a little like Amy Winehouse little curl in the front, and just ready to go.
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So on this particular night, um I picked them up in my uh my mom's car.
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I didn't have a car on my own.
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It was a bright purple Mercury cougar.
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It was like a neon bright colored car, like one of a kind.
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Um, and uh never seen a car like this before.
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And if you did, you'd probably say is the is a pimp driving this this car.
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You know, so um my town they called it the pimpmobile.
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They nicknamed it the pimpmobile, and everybody, there's the pimpmobile, and yes, okay.
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So on this particular night, it's my junior year in high school, it's uh like late April, and they get into the car and I say to them, Yahis in the front seat, a Ritchie's in the back.
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I'm like, where to?
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And they just start laughing because they know every every Saturday night we go to the same place.
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Go to a place called the Clam King.
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It was a mom and pop fast food place that specialized in seafood.
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And we went there, we sat down, a waitress came over, and every week Yai and Riki would order the same things, fried scallops with with French fries and powder sauce, and I would just get a uh a cheeseburger because my stomach, I have a funny stomach, and I I can't do like exotic things like scallops.
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So when we finished our order, like the night really began at that moment, and we would play this game every week, and I was the lookout, and my job was to watch the waitress going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth.
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And once she disappeared, the coast was clear, and I'd look across the table to my honorities and I'd wink, and that was a signal, and she knew what that meant.
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And she'd lean over and open up her huge purse at the side of the table.
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And as she did that, my Yaya would lean over and knock the salt and pepper shakers right into the purse.
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And they're like, Yeah, we got him, we got him, we got him.
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Oh my god, we got him, we got him.
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And they get so excited, and we got another set, another set, and then they would look at me and they're like, you know, you, and I'm like, what?
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And they're like, you, and I'm like, what?
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And they're like, you're like the best lookout, you know, you're such a good lookout.
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I go, I mean, what do I do?
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I just wink.
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I mean, you know, you guys, you steal, yeah, whoa, whoa, time out, timeout.
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It's not stealing, it's not stealing.
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I go, yeah, yeah, it is.
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And they're like, no, it's not stealing.
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Like, think about it.
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We pay our bill, and if we pay our bill, we can take whatever we want.
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Anything.
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I'm like, where did you hear this?
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They're like, yeah, it's that's that's fact.
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I'm like, okay.
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In their house going down to their basement, they had this big cabinet, and they would always say, Adam, open up the cabinet.
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I'm like, come on, let's open up the cabinet.
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So I'd open up the cabinet, and inside were hundreds of salt and pepper shakers that we'd stolen over there.
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And
they would just look like, look at that.
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And they're like, yeah, yeah.
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They're like, look, I go, I know, I see it.
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They're like, we never have to buy salt and pepper ever again.
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It's all here.
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I'm like, okay, it's true, true.
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When the food came, they turned into like Yaya turned into like a little kid.
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She would um take her skull and like a robot, dump it in tartar sauce and stick it in her mouth, never chewing, just doing it, just doing it.
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And you'd have to watch because the cheeks would expand, they'd expand, expand, and then she'd choke, and then it was like in her mind, now start chewing.
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And she'd chew, gobble down, and go down, and then she'd do it again.
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And like you just like, you know.
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Where Arna Riti would order her fries, she's like, I want them right out of the fry later, right out of the fry.
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And if they weren't, she'd send them right back.
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And when they came, they'd there'd be like a cloud of smoke coming over the fries, and she'd be so excited, she'd like giddy.
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And she put her hands over the French fries like a campfire, you know, and she would just look, and I'm like, eat them, they're hot.
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She's like, No, I just want to watch, I just want to watch.
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I'm like, all right.
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She's like, they smell delicious.
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I wonder how they taste.
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So she started eating.
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And this particular moment was a moment that I looked forward to um more than any moment during the week.
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While we ate, uh they would start complimenting me.
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And they would say, Oh, someone get a haircut.
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I'm like, I don't like it, it's too short.
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It's too no, it looks good on you.
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And I'm like, oh, thank you.
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I appreciate it.
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Like, hey Adam, how did you do on the chemistry test?
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I'm like, come on, let's eat.
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I don't want to talk about chemistry now.
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Come on, let's just eat.
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They're like, how did you do on the chemistry test?
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I got a 95.
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They're like, oh, he's so smart, he's brilliant, this boy.
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He's brilliant.
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I'm like, no, no.
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They're like, yeah, I go, no.
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I take all the easy classes.
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That's why I get the 95s.
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And they'd be like, oh, this guy, this guy, he's like the total package.
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I'm like, what does that mean?
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They're like, you're you're smart, you're handsome, and you're humble.
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You're like the total package.
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And the rest of them, you know, they would just bombard me with nice things about me, just compliments.
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They saw me the way I wanted to be seen.
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So as the night continued, we would get in the car, and our first stop every Saturday after Quam King would be the cemetery to see our dead relatives.
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So we'd see the dead relatives, and Yay and Ariti were mobile, they could walk, but once we got into the cemetery, they didn't like they get they get kind of scared, so they stayed in the car.
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So we would drive and see all our dead relatives, and um they would always say, like, come on, get a little closer.
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I'm like, no, I I can't get in.
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They're like, get a little closer, I want to touch the uh the gravestone.
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They go, if I do that, I'm gonna be over the dead person.
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They're like, Don't worry, nobody's looking.
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Just do it, just do it.
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I'm like, all right.
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So I'm like driving over like the dead person, they'd roll down the window and they'd be like, Hi, Ben.
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Let's go to the next one.
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And then we'd be like, Hi, Paul, and they're like saying hi to all the dead relatives.
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Then we would go to McDonald's for milkshakes.
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The Clam King had milkshakes, but nothing like McDonald's.
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They love McDonald's.
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So we got our chocolate milkshakes, and then we would go uh just driving around again Saturday night, just driving around, driving around.
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And we'd always go by this little dinky airport in my hometown, and we would go by, and whenever we would pass it, they would say, you know what would be fun, Adam?
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And I'm like, no, no, what?
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And they're like, you know, if we if we drove into the little parking lot there and we watched a plane take off, wouldn't that be exciting?
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Wouldn't that be fun?
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I'm like, yeah, yeah, well, we should do it.
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I go, not I'm sorry, girls, not tonight.
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And I would I keep driving.
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And it was difficult to say no to these women.
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But what they didn't know is on Monday mornings at the Walker area, um, all the popular kids would be talking about what happened Saturday night at the airport.
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Uh the airport was like our inspiration point, make out point.
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That's where all of them went.
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And I'd hear about the hijinks.
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And um, for me at that time to get caught at the airport, okay, by the cool kids with my yaya and my auntie, like, no, like, no, not gonna happen.
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Not cool, no, no.
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I had a friend called Fetus, I was thrown out of marching band, okay?
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Like, not not like, please, please.
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Um, no, no.
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Even nice guys have their limits here.
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Christ.
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The other thing is, um, I had never been to the airport yet.
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And uh my dream 17 years old, and my hope was the first time I went, I would go with a girl my own age and make out.
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Unfortunately, there was no chance of that ever happening uh because girls my age uh they didn't see me that way.
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So on this night again, it's late April, daylight savings time.
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We drive by, we're making good time.
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There's not a car in that parking lot, and they're asking me, and finally I just give in.
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I say, okay, one plane.
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And they get very excited and we pull in, we're at this little chain-link fence, and in my mind is one plane, then you're getting the hell out of here.
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And we're sitting there, and I turn on the radio.
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Uh, I want to brag.
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Uh, I uh had only been driving one year, but I perfected the volume of the radio when they were in the car.
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So we got the do-wop shop out of Boston plan.
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Okay, we got Dion and the Belmonts run around Sioux, and it's loud enough so they can hear it, okay, but it's not too loud that they'll complain that it's too loud.
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So I look, they nod, we're good to go.
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Now we just need a plane.
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Now we just need so okay, again, small, small airport in New Hampshire.
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It's not JFK, it's not LaGuardia, it's not even Newark, okay?
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Not a lot of planes, like not a lot of planes on a Saturday night.
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So we're sitting there, like a half hour goes by and the sweat starts coming down.
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And I'm like, yeah, we gotta get a plane here, you know, and this little one propeller plane comes on the runway, and I'm like, thank you.
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And I hold Yaya's hand and I hold the Riti's hand and it starts taking off.
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And as it goes over our heads, like in unison, we go like, we! And it's a nice feeling, it's nice, it's nice, you know, it's good, right?
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Good, yeah, it's good, it's good.
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And I'm like, let's go.
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And I and I go to start up the car, and Yaya puts her hand on my wrist and she just squeezes and she's like, before we go, honey, I go, what's up, Yaya?
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She's like, before we go, can I ask you a question?
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I'm like, yeah, what is it, Yaya?
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Come on.
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She's like, Do you think that plane's going to China?
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I'm like, what?
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She's like, Do you think that plane's?
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I go, Yaya, we're in New Hampshire.
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China's far away.
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I mean, it's a small plane.
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I don't know.
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I mean, your guess is as good as mine.
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I don't know.
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So Yaya's in the back, uh, Anna Ritchie's in the back seat.
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She's the older sister.
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She starts cackling.
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She's like, oh my, what a stupid question.
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That's a stupid question.
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How the hell is he supposed to know that?
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And she lights up a palm menthol, not supposed to smoke.
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She's had cancer twice, but she takes a couple puffs just to get her fixed and flips it out the window.
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Now she's good.
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Now Yaya's pissed off and turns around and goes, Yeah, keep smoking, big mouth.
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Keep smoking.
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Cancer's got you down twice.
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Next time you're going down for the count.
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You're dancing with the devil, you're dancing with the devil.
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Now Anna Rita looks at her.
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Now she's pissed off.
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She's like, last time I checked, it's a free country.
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I'll do what the hell I want.
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And Yaya's like, well, good luck to you and the Red Sox.
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And they just start fighting and they're going back and forth, back and forth.
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When they run out of English, they go to Greek.
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When they run out of Greek, it's just all hand gestures, and it's just like, it is incredible.
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It's just like, what a show that they're doing.
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And I know I've learned from the years, do not pick sides, because if you pick one side, the other will be upset.
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So I'm just taking it in, laughing, and then I look in the rearview mirror, and they're coming in.
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And it's jettas and sobs, and they got the central high school bumper stickers, and this is not good.
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This is this this this this is I'm I'm screwed.
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And this blue suburban pulls up next to me, and it's the last car I want to see.
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It's a senior SD and his girlfriend Rachel.
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They're not nice people.
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They're not nice people.
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And they see the pimpmobile, and immediately he yells out the window, Holy shit, Adam Wade.
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Adam Wade's at the airport.
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Now I know tone.
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I've been made fun of a lot my whole life.
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I've been made fun of.
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I know what being made.
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I know the tone.
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He is not making fun of me.
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I know it.
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He actually sounds impressed.
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And the next question he has is, who you got in there, stud?
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Who you got in there?
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On Q Yaya leans over and waves to him.
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He's with his grandmother and great aunt, dear.
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Isn't this a beautiful night to watch the airplanes?
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I want to be dead.
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I want to be dead.
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I I I literally I close my eyes and I just want to be a vapor and just poof, you know.
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And I do that and I open my eyes.
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I have not vaporized.
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I'm still there.
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And now sweat is, I'm just dripping in sweat.
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Um, the sun has gone down.
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All the cars are flipping their high beams onto my car.
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They see the pimpmobile, they're yelling my name, they're beeping the horns, and it's just like I look over at the eye and she's smiling.
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And a re teeth, they're like, oh my god, you're like the man.
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Wow.
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I mean, everybody knows you.
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Everybody knows you.
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And then I'm sweating and the eye's like, she grabs, she's like, what's wrong?
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You gotta go diarrhea?
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You gotta go diarrhea.
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I go, I don't have to go diarrhea.
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What the hell are you talking about?
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She's like, remember, I go, it's four years old.
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Why do you always bring that up?
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I did it once.
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I did it, I I shattered my pants once.
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Why?
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Why?
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She's like, Well, what is wrong with you?
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What is wrong with you?
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I go, I'm I'm not who you think I am, okay?
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I'm not who you think I am.
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She's like, Well, what do you mean?
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I go, come on, God, I'm a loser.
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I'm a loser.
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And Yaya gets upset, and she's like, Why would you say that, Adam?
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Why would you say that you're a loser?
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And I snap, and I just say, because I'm with you two on a Saturday night.
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That's why I'm a loser.
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I mean, think about it.
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And I start up the car, and the car goes quiet, it never goes quiet, and I'm shaking now, and I've never in my life talked to them like that.
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And we're driving home in silence, and I had this embarrassment, and now it's turned to shame for how I've treated them.
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We get back to their house, and with my shoulders slunched, I go and I sit on the little love seat and I wait for them, and they go upstairs and they put on their slippers made of yarn and their moo moos.
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And they come down, they start making a racket in the kitchen, like real loud.
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They get in boiling the hot water for the good hot chocolate that I like.
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They get the Swiss fudge and they cut it and put on a silver tray that I like.
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And then they get the uh bowl of poppycock caramel popcorn, the good stuff, the brand.
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They get everything ready for me in it.
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Um 10 p.m., with like two big babushkas, they sandwich me in the little love seat, and we start to watch a show called The Kamish.
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Now, the Kamish was our favorite show.
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It starred Michael Chickwash and he's Greek and we're Greek.
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And if there's a Greek on TV or an actor that has a last name that
sounds like it could be Greek, we're gonna watch the show.
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We're gonna talk about how good he is or she is and and how Greeks are some great actors.
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No matter how what the show is or how good it is.
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So a commercial comes on, and I just don't know what to say.
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Just go, um you know, uh I'll tell you one thing about this.
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Michael Chickas.
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He's a great actor.
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I mean, he's right up there with Greeks like Telly Savalas and John Cassavetis.
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I mean, he's that those were their favorite actors.
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I mean, I mean it's just my opinion.
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I mean, he's got the potential at least, right?
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And I wait, and um starts padding my head, and she says, uh, I hope.
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Wow.
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And I'm like, what?
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And she's like, you got such a nice haircut, Adam.
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Did I tell you that?
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I go, yeah, you did.
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And uh Anna Rites squeezes me and she says, uh, you know you're the best boy, right?
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You're our boy.
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Thank you.
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As much as they love being with me, I love being with them.
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I go to school on Monday, and it is a shit show.
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S D's telling everybody that I'm gonna go to the prom with my yaya, and that's only if my auntie says no.
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And they go after me all day long, like all day long.
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But I survived, I'm here.
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So Anariti passed away 12 years ago, and uh Yaya passed away 10 years ago, and uh I find myself going home to New Hampshire to visit my family now three to four times a year, and whenever I do, I find myself in a car and I retrace the route from that night, and I'll go by their house, I'll go by where the clam king was, I'll go by the cemetery where they are now, and I drive right up this side, I roll down, hi, yeah, I read, and I keep going, and um I get my chocolate milkshake at McDonald's, I take my lacted pill now because the stomach.
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And then I go by the airport.
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And on the time since they've passed, I've tried to be the person they saw me as, and the person I was to them, and I don't have a lot of regrets in my life.
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But I never I never took them back to the airport, and they asked many, many times.
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And I would give anything.
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I would give anything to be able to take them back to the airport one more Saturday night.
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Thank you.
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If you'd like to hear more from Adam, you can go see one of his many live shows in New York.
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You can listen to his two comedy storytellers.
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Albums or his Audible exclusive audio memoir, You Oughta Know Adam Wade.
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And coming up next, we have someone who's been with the Artichoke since the very beginning, and that is Crystal River Williams.
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Crystal's not only a great storyteller, but a restaurateur to boot.
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For many years, she co-owned the very popular cafe Norma's in Ridgewood, Queens, before opening up a new location in the Hudson Valley where we host our monthly Story Slams.
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Here she is this past June at our Story Slam at Norma's in Wappinger's Falls.
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The year is 1984, and I am a weird, scruffy nine-year-old living amongst the weed fields in Southern California.
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I'm laying on a foam mattress on the floor of a hut that I share with my best friend Sunshine.
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The adults are up the hill in the moon hut, which is just past the open-air outhouse, and they're most likely naked and passing around the weekly harvest.
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My mom may or may not be with them.
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She's kind of like this elusive figure that'll breeze in and breeze out and occasionally scoop me up and take me to a new commune or some teepee's in another desert.
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And then eventually we always end up back here because these huts have become our home.
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Sunshine and I are listening to Off the Wall by Michael Jackson, and we're looking at the album cover by an oil lantern.
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We're not like the other kids our age.
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Most kids are going to the roller skating rink or the mall, and we're running around the mountains naked and having peeing competitions.
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And at nighttime, we take turns telling each other fantastic stories of our dream futures that usually involve stumbling across some sort of a magical creature in the forest who then grants our wishes to make our hair big and our boobs big, and we become popular and our crushes fall madly in love with us.
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But tonight the story is hitting a little different because I've just returned from visiting my dad at this amazing place called an apartment complex.
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And he had electricity and running water and jars and jars full of coins.
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He must have had like four or five coined jars that were just like brimming to the top.
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And when he saw me eyeing them with awe, he very, very generously allowed me to take them.
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And I dumped them into my old wooden-handled suitcase and I brought them back here to the huts.
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I now had money.
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And money had been the one thing standing between me and my dream to own a fluorescent pink sweatshirt and a pair of jelly shoes.
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I knew that when I got my dream outfit, I was going to be just as cool as Molly Ringwald.
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So the next day, instead of going to my school and getting on the school bus, I took my jingling suitcase full of coins on the public bus and I went downtown to Santa Cruz.
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I walked along the main strip and I peered in all the windows until I found a shop that had everything I needed.
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I walked in and I decisively picked a skirt, a fluorescent shirt, jelly shoes, and these really, really cool iridescent feathered earrings.
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I brought it to the counter, and the the owner kind of looked at me a little weird, but she rung me up.
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And when I got my total, I unzipped my suitcase.
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I reached my hand in and I pulled out a fistful of coins and I plopped it on the counter.
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Oh, honey, I'm so sorry.
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We don't take coins.
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You're gonna need to get some paper money.
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Oh I hadn't anticipated that.
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How do I get paper money?
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She kindly and patiently explained to me where the bank was and what I would have to do when I got there.
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So I put my coins back and I lugged my suitcase down to the bank and I got some paper rolls from the teller because I was not gonna be weird.
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So I plopped myself down on the lobby in the middle of the bank and unset my suitcase and I spent the next hour counting pennies and nickels and dimes and quarters until I had bills in hand.
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I went back to the shop, I got my dream outfit, I put it in my now empty suitcase, and I took it back to the hut.
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The next morning, my best friend Sunshine's mother boiled a pot of hot water over a propane stove, and I washed myself with a washcloth and I put on my dream outfit.
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I got on the school bus eagerly, and at recess, Chad and Zach McNormalsen were making eyes at me from the tetherball court.
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I knew I looked good.
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And then they approached me with a look in their eye that made me realize that I had made a terrible, terrible mistake.
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Today was Friday, and at Ben Lohman Elementary School, girls do not wear skirts on Friday because we have rules.
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Monday is marriage day, Tuesday is Toast Day, Wednesday is wedding day, Thursday is throw-up day, and Friday is flip-up day.
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Which means any girl who's foolish enough to wear a skirt to school on Friday is gonna get it flipped up.
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And uh on my shopping spree, I'd kind of forgotten one very important piece of uh clothing, underwear.
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So as they approached me, I froze and they exposed my bare bottom to the entire fifth grade playground.
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I wanted to die.
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On the bus, the kids taunted me.
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What color is your underwear, Crystal River?
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I was crushed.
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I was not the cool kid.
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I was still the weird girl who doesn't wear underwear.
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That night in the huts, I prayed to the magical creatures in the forest.
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Please never make me go back.
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Please take me away.
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Please make the embarrassment stop.
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Please make this sad, dirty, lonely life stop.
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The next day, my mom breezed in.
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And she scooped me up.
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And she took me back to that amazing place called an apartment complex where she dropped me off with my father.
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And then she breezed away, never to return again.
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And just like magic, my father became my wizard.
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And he granted every one of my wishes.
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He took me to the mall and he bought me clothes, which I wore to the roller skating ring.
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He bought me Aqua Net and a curling iron.
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And one day he was forced to buy me a training bra.
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And in sixth grade, my crush Corey gave me my very first kiss.
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I learned a lot living with my dad.
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Like you don't just wear underwear on Friday, you have to wear them every day of the week.
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Um I also learned how to feel safe.
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And I learned how to be loved, even though I am still that weird kid.
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Thank you.
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And that's Crystal River Williams at the Artichoke Storytelling Slam at Norma's in Wappinger's Falls.
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She unsurprisingly won the slam that night.
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I'm so excited to share my interview with her.
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I kicked things off with asking a little bit about how the relationship between the Artichoke and Norma's came to be.
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Drew and Crystal go way back, and Drew
was also a part of the team that brought Norma's to Wappingers Falls.
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So go ahead and enjoy my chat with Crystal.
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We knew from the beginning, we put a little stage in there, and we knew from the beginning that we wanted to do something with the storytelling, something with writing, something that was arts related there, and something that's very community-building there.
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And of course, with Drew doing the artichoke, the first thing he thought of was just making something where the community can get a shot at trying storytelling.
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How do you think about community building for normas and for any future endeavors that may or may not be on your plate right now?
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I think community building is the whole point of hospitality from my perspective.
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I've been a restaurant tour and a brick and mortar operator for 15 years now.
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And when Denise and I say, Why are we doing this to ourselves?
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It's clearly a mental health issue.
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The reason we do it is for the community building.
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It is making sure that whoever walks through your door feels welcome and heard.
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It is never making anybody feel stupid for asking you a question or making a request.
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It is doing our best to do our version of whatever somebody is asking us for.
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And it is saying yes a lot.
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Like when somebody comes to us and is like, hey, we're doing a Dahlia festival, can we have the contestants sit in your backyard while we're doing the judging at the local historical society?
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Absolutely.
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It's the knitting group that's like, hey, I've got 12 knitters that want to come in during the rush every single Sunday.
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And we go, absolutely.
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And all of those yeses lead to connection and neighbors meeting each other in a place where they couldn't have had any other way to meet each other.
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And my favorite part of like the traditions for families when they're like everybody has their birthday breakfast at Norma's.
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I hear things like that.
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Or my daughter gets her cookie here on this day of the week if she's good, or like I'm stopping by the library, and this is where we go afterwards for our post-library family time, or even the yoga people coming in in the morning.
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Like it's just it's a sense of helping people build routines and memories together.
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I love that.
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I'm curious about what storytelling means to you.
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I think for me, telling a story about myself was new, like getting up on a stage in front of people and exposing a part of my history that they don't see.
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They don't know who I was when I was a child.
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I'm showing them my sunny side when I'm when I am serving them.
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But to show them a little bit more of the underbelly, it was kind of like me going, this is also a part of who I am, you know, and and that's a part of myself that I also still love and that I'm proud of.
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And it was just sort of a healing experience to be so open about the other aspects of my life and not just the persona that I that I am using when I'm at work.
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Yeah.
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But doing that at work was really weird.
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Also really customers in the audience, and I'm like, I was like, here's here's my childhood.
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I mean, how incredible.
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Okay, so for the folks who haven't checked out Norma's yet, what is your favorite thing on the menu right now?
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Well, I'm I'm a biscuit fanatic, which is why we have so many biscuits.
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So um, we just just did a peach habanero biscuit with honey butter that was so good.
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Well, I'm so glad that you are part of the artichoke scene and community in such an important and special way.
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Is there anything else you want the people of the world, aka our listeners, to know?
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Um, just that the artichoke is incredibly special and that Drew does put so much of his heart into it, and he cares about it so much.
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And um, I'm just really lucky to have him as uh a brother and a neighbor.
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I was raised by a British person, and Crystal knows that compliments are my kryptonite, but I do love her to death.
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And that's our episode, everybody.
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If you'd like to try your hand at live storytelling, our story slams are at Norma's in Wappinger's Falls the fourth Thursday of every month, or you can sign up for one of our storytelling workshops at artichokeshow.com.
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The theme song you heard at the top of the show is The Artichoke by Charming Disaster.
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We are all huge fans of their music.
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This episode was produced by the wonderful Carly Shiraki and edited by yours truly.
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Thanks to our graphic designer Adam Selpst, to the staffs at the Howland Cultural Center and Normas, and to you, the audience, for keeping us going.
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See you soon, everyone.