النص الكامل لحلقة CHORES: Discipleship - Responsibility - Servant Heart

brings back memories. 00:03:57.840 --> 00:03:58.319 Yeah, yeah. 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:04.159 If you're single, I kind of wish Daniel could have been here because I wanted to ask him, like, as a single guy, you know, how how do chores work for you? 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:05.919 I think he has a roommate and stuff like that. 00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:11.919 But still, when you get married, chores can be a real deal breaker or deal maker. 00:04:12.080 --> 00:04:14.159 When you have kids, it gets even more interesting. 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:25.199 And within that whole conversation comes the idea of eventually ultimately serving each other in the way you do these chores and tasks at home. 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:27.920 So yeah, let's talk about it. 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:32.160 When we think about chores and serving, there's a few texts that we could go to. 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:46.560 I primarily think of Mark 1045, which is one of the theme verses, maybe the theme verse for the gospel of Mark, but it's Jesus says that the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, to give his life as a ransom for many. 00:04:47.120 --> 00:04:54.720 And then Jesus talks about at the end of our lives, Lord willing, you know, if we say faithful, well done, my good and faithful servant. 00:04:54.959 --> 00:05:00.000 And there's so many things that we can substitute into that instead. 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:00.959 Good things. 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:05.680 You know, well done, my good and faithful pastor, brother, friend, worker. 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:07.920 Well done, my good and faithful servant. 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:13.680 And kind of when I think about service, sometimes I use this when I preach as an illustration. 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:18.079 But when I worked at Red Lobster, we had a general manager. 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:20.240 So we had her and then a few managers under her. 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:22.639 You know, she ran the ship and did a great job. 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:24.720 Miss A did a really good job. 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:26.959 And she always had a lot going on. 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:40.160 So sometimes I would, and I think maybe I've used this in here, but sometimes I'd see her and then it'd be like a busy Friday night, and then she'd be wiping down a table to get it ready for the next people to sit down. 00:05:40.399 --> 00:05:47.279 And whenever I saw her do that, I'd usually take the rag from her and then I would clean it because I was a server and she was the manager. 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:53.759 But just thinking of all the things that she could have done, she could have told somebody, hey, do you mind like politely, like, hey, do you mind cleaning this table for me? 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:54.720 Hey, for sure. 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:58.480 But just for her taking the initiative to do it really meant a lot. 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:03.040 And it was easy to work under her, seeing how she did that. 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:04.800 And

so the same with Jesus. 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:12.319 You know, when we see just the ways that he served, I think it's easy for us to in turn serve. 00:06:12.480 --> 00:06:12.720 Yeah. 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:16.879 Now, for us in our home, what it looks like, you know, it's a it's a work in progress. 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:18.399 I'm sure it's like that in all of our homes. 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:30.399 But just communication, you know, I think it's important, just like my manager, she didn't think too much of herself that she couldn't do chores, just showing our children, hey, like I'm not too big that I can't do it. 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:36.959 Showing them what it looks like to serve, just so that we will be able to be trusted in doing that. 00:06:37.199 --> 00:06:44.319 So it's all about getting them involved, making them do things they don't want to do, making them do things that they don't think they can do. 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:52.639 I know with our son a lot of times, you know, in the morning he gets up and he he does his lunch and we're getting ready, we're getting the house ready, getting ready to go to work. 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:59.439 So that's something that he does that it took him some time to kind of get used to, hey, I gotta get this and then open that and all that goes into it. 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:02.079 But now he's kind of taking ownership over it and he loves him. 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:09.439 Yeah, I think so much of serving, it's really tied to knowing the purpose behind why you're serving. 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:17.199 Because if you're just doing it to do it, eventually you get bitter or angry that others aren't doing it, or why do I have to do this? 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:23.759 Or if you're doing it to impress others and they happen not to recognize it, hence the early part of marriage. 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:36.560 Like for me, I remember that you know, I was like trying to compete almost to say, look, I'm a good husband because I did these things, but you didn't even recognize it, you know, and so I was doing it for the completely wrong reason, and so it just got more frustrating. 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:45.199 So beginning to teach ourselves as a married couple and then eventually your kids the purpose to serving and the reason behind it goes a long way. 00:07:45.279 --> 00:07:53.199 I think like your manager is a great example because she could have easily been angry about that, or she probably realized I need to do this quick because we're gonna get backed up. 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:55.680 I see the big picture, no problem, I'll go do that. 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:56.959 That's not below me. 00:07:57.199 --> 00:08:01.120 She probably had the bigger picture in her mind versus wait, this is not my job. 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:02.480 I'm not paid to do that. 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:09.680 And so our kids, I think, you know, some of the things within our home, we tried to make it clear to them about stewardship. 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:18.959 That's a wonderful biblical principle to teach your kids that, hey, if we let our dishes just sit in the sink forever, eventually bugs are going to come in. 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:22.319 If bugs come in, eventually other things are going to go wrong. 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:28.879 But you know, there's just reasons we steward and take care of the things that God's given us. 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:35.039 So if we begin teaching stewardship, it gives a little bit more power behind why we're asking you to do these chores. 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:37.200 Yeah, I think both of y'all kind of hit on something. 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:41.519 I was thinking as we do chores, you have to be taught how to do some things. 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:45.360 Your son had to be taught things that need to be in his lunch. 00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:48.240 But Jesus taught us how to serve others. 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:51.600 Like my kids, one of them is excellent at cleaning their room. 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:58.879 This one wants a clean room all the time, but shares a room with his brother who's not excellent at cleaning his room. 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:03.840 And so I have had to, okay, first thing we're gonna go in and we're gonna take a trash bag in. 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:07.519 So let's just get the trash, things that are broken, things that don't belong here. 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:08.799 Let's put them where they go. 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:11.200 And then from there, you know, you have a toy box. 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:13.279 If it doesn't fit in the toy box, guess what? 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:15.600 Like if you're putting one in, you gotta take one out. 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:18.080 So everything fits and the lid can still go on. 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:24.000 So it's important to teach our kids just like we were taught how to serve others. 00:09:25.120 --> 00:09:27.519 And then you said he has ownership of his lunch. 00:09:27.840 --> 00:09:29.039 Ownership's a huge thing. 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:32.720 I think servanthood gives you ownership of whatever it is. 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:41.039 If you're teaching Sunday school and you know that you're responsible for whatever craft it is on your Sunday, you have ownership of that. 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:47.440 It's your class, it's important that you have a craft that the kids are gonna like, you know, whatever it is, that's an important thing. 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:54.960 And so that ownership, I think, whether it's fixing a lunch, teaching a Sunday school class, cleaning the toilet, like whatever it is, that you have ownership of that. 00:09:55.200 --> 00:09:55.440 Yeah. 00:09:55.679 --> 00:09:58.000 And that goes back to the reason behind it, I think. 00:09:58.320 --> 00:09:59.039 Responsibility. 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:01.519 Yeah, that's that's a key word with ownership. 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:10.639 You know, one thing that we say is I'll ask Johnny to clean something up and then he'll

say, Well, I didn't do it, which is well, like I clean up after you all the time. 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:19.440 I don't care who did it, it needs to get cleaned up, which that goes right in with servitude because Jesus, the way that he served, was well, he didn't sin. 00:10:19.759 --> 00:10:20.080 Right. 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:22.960 He's not the one that committed the sin to go to the cross. 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:27.679 He's not the one that deserved what he got, but he got what we justly deserved. 00:10:27.759 --> 00:10:31.919 And so servanthood is all about humility and laying ourselves down. 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:38.159 I'll pick not really because she's been cooking dinners for a long time. 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:47.519 I mean, the kids are in their 20s now, so at least 20 something years of making meals for kids and family before that for me. 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:49.840 And so she's kind of tired of it. 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:53.919 You know, she's like, I'm tired of making dinner and figuring out what people want. 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:54.399 Yes. 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:58.399 She'll keep doing it, she'll just keep on doing it and serving in that capacity. 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:06.720 But I realized, hmm, maybe I could and I enjoy cooking occasionally, but I'm like, I need to be a little bit more proactive in helping her. 00:11:06.960 --> 00:11:13.360 So that's one way we're trying to balance out some chores, but that's after 28 years of marriage. 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:15.120 I'm like, oh, I'm just getting a clue. 00:11:15.360 --> 00:11:18.720 How have y'all managed, or maybe go back to the beginning? 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:21.440 Like, how was that kind of tit for tat? 00:11:21.919 --> 00:11:23.360 Or did you share? 00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:26.320 Were you able to say, okay, you do laundry, I'll do dishes? 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:33.120 So Elizabeth and I have to communicate because we have different values on kind of what constitutes chores. 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:40.080 So like I do work outside, pressure washing, blowing off the front porch, back porch, especially right now during pollen season. 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:46.399 You know, we got a nice, beautiful front porch and got to get it blown off and whatever it may be in the yard, watering the yard. 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:47.200 So I'll do that. 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:49.039 I think like, oh, okay, like I did something. 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:53.360 But it's like that's not what she necessarily wants, like she's thankful for, but that's not what she wanted to get done. 00:11:53.440 --> 00:11:57.039 So communicating for what actually constitutes chores. 00:11:57.279 --> 00:11:58.639 I think it's you know the same with kids. 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:02.559 It's like it's easy for a kid to to do something, think, hey, I I did something. 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:08.879 When it's like, yeah, you you may have done something, but maybe you just like got straight the mess that you created.

00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:09.519 Yes. 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:11.519 So you don't really get credit for that. 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:17.919 So yeah, communicating for what constitutes valuable chores and not just for the sake of busy work. 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:24.320 Yeah, I think we did at first uh Tim does dishes, he does all the dishes. 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:26.080 I mean all the dishes. 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:29.440 He washes the hand wash stuff, he loads and unloads the dishwasher. 00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:31.919 Now I think we have kids and he should be using these kids. 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:35.120 So when he's out of town, it's the children doing the dishes. 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:36.879 I'll do the hand wash, but they do everything else. 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:38.159 But he does dishes. 00:12:38.320 --> 00:12:40.480 I mean, he is faithful to the dishes. 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:44.159 So at the beginning, he didn't like cleaning toilets and I didn't like washing dishes. 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:47.759 I mean, we set that like within the first month of marriage. 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:56.639 But I do think communication goes a long way because sometimes the chore that I need help with isn't the visible product. 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:58.240 So you're talking about making dinner. 00:12:58.480 --> 00:12:59.600 I don't mind making dinner. 00:12:59.759 --> 00:13:00.399 I don't love it. 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:02.399 I'm not a chef, it's not my favorite. 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:05.200 Now, there are some things I enjoy making, but in general, no. 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:09.360 But I have to make the grocery list, I have to make the click list. 00:13:09.759 --> 00:13:13.440 I hate that, but I'm the one who's aware of what we have and what we don't. 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:21.519 And so to me, the bigger act of service, which happens to be my number one love language, would be someone getting the groceries. 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:22.639 I mean, like completely. 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:23.600 Go through the process. 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:25.360 Don't ask me, well, what do we need? 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:27.919 Well, if if you have to ask what we need, I'm just gonna make the list. 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:28.720 You know what I mean? 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:35.279 So I think servanthood sometimes is those things that aren't necessarily the visible outcome, but it's the behind the scenes thing. 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:40.559 So with chores, I think it communication, like you said, James, is really what it comes down to. 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:46.240 Because I I don't mind doing the grocery list, but it would be so great sometimes if I did. 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:48.000 Would it help you? 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:51.200 Because it doesn't sound like anybody's gonna be able to do it. 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:53.679 But does it help you when you're affirmed in that? 00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:56.480 When people say thank you for doing that, or you get recognition. 00:13:56.799 --> 00:13:56.960 Okay. 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:59.600 So that's a part of communication that goes a long way. 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:06.320 Because I'm thinking about like a team, husband and wife trying to be a team and realizing our skills lay in different areas. 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:09.600 And so I might could do that, but I'm not gonna do it good anyway. 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:10.960 So why don't you keep on doing it? 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:11.919 But can I encourage you more? 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:12.960 That may be part of it. 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:18.080 Yeah, I'm like I made dinner last night, Tim cleaned up dinner, and Tim said, Why? 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:19.360 Because you don't have to clean. 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:21.360 I said, That's exactly why. 00:14:21.600 --> 00:14:24.240 So he cleaned up every he and the kids put everything away. 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:25.120 That's what I've noticed. 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:27.919 Like if Mandy does, when she does cook, I'm like, I'll clean up. 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:28.240 Perfect. 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:29.360 I can do that much at least. 00:14:29.519 --> 00:14:29.679 Yeah. 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:30.960 I think that's great. 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:33.039 But yeah, communication, I think, is key. 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:39.200 I mean, we're talking about adults doing this, you know, husband and wife who should love each other, who should want to serve each other on an ongoing basis. 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:41.200 Hopefully, we model that for our kids. 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:42.159 They see that. 00:14:42.320 --> 00:14:49.840 I think it's good to see a dad serving his wife and vice versa, and showing respect mutually to one another and love that way. 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:55.679 But when it comes to kids, that's a little tougher because just because they're not good at something, we're probably not going to let them off the hook too much. 00:14:55.840 --> 00:15:00.720 You know, it's like, I'm sorry, I know you don't naturally think clean rooms matter, but you've got to do it. 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:08.960 So there's another way that chores can be real helpful in teaching just to simply respect authority and do what you're asked. 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:14.320 Yeah, I think it's easy to let them do the things that maybe they could help with. 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:18.879 We had breakfast for dinner last night and Tegan wanted to help me make the muffins. 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:21.360 Well, we get the kind of muffin mix where you just add milk. 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:22.720 Tegan can help with that. 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:23.600 He's great at that. 00:15:23.759 --> 00:15:25.600 He loves to lick the bowl afterwards. 00:15:25.759 --> 00:15:26.399 Like it's great. 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:26.960 It works. 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:29.519 But then he said, Can I crack the eggs? 00:15:29.840 --> 00:15:30.960 I said, I can handle that. 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:32.559 And he said, But I want to

help you. 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:35.600 Oh, okay, I want your help. 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:37.840 I knew that was probably gonna be a mess. 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:40.559 We're probably gonna have to dig some eggshells out of things. 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:42.799 But in that, he cracked the eggs. 00:15:42.879 --> 00:15:43.600 He did a great job. 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:46.080 And by the end, he figured out what worked for him. 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:47.360 We got all the eggshells out. 00:15:47.440 --> 00:15:48.320 The eggs were delicious. 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:54.480 So it was great because he learned in that, and I learned that he's capable of doing things. 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:59.759 I mean, he's nine, of course, he's capable of cracking the egg, but he wants to be able to help make dinner. 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:01.679 So that was a great thing for both of us. 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:05.919 Like, if we only gave you the chores of things you could do, then you wouldn't grow in that. 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:09.919 Sometimes we tell Johnny, like, the way that you can help us is watch us do it. 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:10.559 Yes. 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:12.000 And just observe as we do it. 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:12.639 That's great. 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:14.399 But also letting them fail in that. 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:17.440 So Johnny and I play settlers of Catan a lot. 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:21.279 It's a three or four player game, but we just play two, and it gets really intense. 00:16:21.679 --> 00:16:22.720 A lot of it on my end. 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:28.080 We played yesterday, and then Elizabeth told me at the end that he had cleaned his room. 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:30.080 And so I kind of felt bad. 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:33.519 You know, he probably should have known definitely my responsibility too. 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:39.039 So, like making sure chores have a good order of the day, especially when you get home from school. 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:46.399 And there's only so much time between when you get home from school and that's like, all right, homework, dinner, getting ready for bed, family devotion, something to that extent. 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:52.799 So making sure that chores have their place as far as you want to have chores, but you also want to have fun. 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:57.440 If you have chores and no fun or fun and no chores, they're both go the wrong way. 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:00.480 But something we're learning is proper order behind it. 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:03.519 Yeah, we like to make lunches in the evening for the next day. 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:04.079 That's why. 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:05.759 And so that's really helped. 00:17:05.920 --> 00:17:08.079 And the kids know we still wake them up. 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:09.920 They don't use an alarm clock. 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:12.079 It's just easier for all of us that way. 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:15.759 But if you didn't make your lunch the night before, you

have to get up earlier. 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:19.279 And so we will wake you up earlier to help you in this. 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:21.440 So that order is important. 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:22.079 It is. 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:31.920 You're teaching so much that's going to be valuable for their entire life, obviously, because what is work but serving others or serving a company? 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:44.799 And so as you learn to do that at home, that's where I think it's so valuable, like you're talking about order, to at different ages and stages for your family, work towards more order and more incentive or purpose behind the chores. 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:46.480 You can start to teach more about stewardship. 00:17:46.559 --> 00:17:52.319 You can even start to offer some compensation or different ways of sharing the load and talking about it. 00:17:52.400 --> 00:18:12.079 I think when we would have devotion as a family around the table and talk about this sort of stuff, maybe not every night as far as the chores, but at least once or twice a week talking about it and going over, it helps prepare them to be in a work environment or to be, you know, even in school, to work together with other people, to share a task, to serve somebody even if they don't want to. 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:14.240 And that of course carries into adulthood. 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:22.559 Yeah, the Bible definitely talks in the pastoral epistles, first and second Timothy and Titus about what a good elder looks like. 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:25.200 It doesn't say, you know, charismatic. 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:28.400 It doesn't say like everybody flocks to him, it doesn't say life of the party. 00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:34.079 It says a one-woman man, you know, husband of one wife, good with his kids, able to faithfully lead his household. 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:36.000 So there's definitely a good principle in that. 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:39.200 Our home is like a little society, honestly. 00:18:39.359 --> 00:18:57.039 If you learn to be a faithful father, then when you go out into society and you have people that work for you, not to say that, you know, kids work for you, but when you're a child and you learn under a faithful mother and father, then when you go to school, you learn to respect and obey your teacher and then your friends at church, on and on and on. 00:18:57.119 --> 00:19:02.559 So yeah, there's so much that it's kind of the linchpin for the rest of society. 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:08.799 If you're a coach and there's a kid on your team that's wanting to help beyond what he's being asked, that's gonna stick out to you. 00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:10.400 Even in sports, it makes a difference. 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:12.799 In school, it makes a difference in work it will. 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:26.960 When I think of military and Marine Corps boot camp, that's the main thing that stands out to me is we learned how to do chores really well as a team when you're told, how you're told, and not to question it and just get it done. 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:32.640 And it helped build a lot of discipline and work ethic that pays off down the road. 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:33.039 Yeah. 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:33.920 People value that. 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:38.880 You know, when you learn to trust somebody who's telling you to do chores, that'll help you in your walk with God. 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:43.039 Uh, if you remember the the sound of music, uh no, sorry, wiz wizard of oz. 00:19:43.119 --> 00:19:46.480 So Johnny, a lot of times he'll ask me why he has to do something, and I say, because. 00:19:46.880 --> 00:19:47.599 Because why? 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:50.799 And then I say, because, because, because, because, because. 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:52.960 So you can use that next time. 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:53.279 Good. 00:19:53.359 --> 00:19:53.599 I like it. 00:19:54.319 --> 00:19:54.559 I like it. 00:19:54.640 --> 00:19:54.720 Yeah. 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:55.759 Trust me in it. 00:19:55.920 --> 00:19:56.160 Yeah. 00:19:56.319 --> 00:19:59.680 I'm not perfect, but you can trust me that I'll lead faithfully. 00:19:59.920 --> 00:20:03.759 I think with all of this, like you want them to stand out for serving others. 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:10.720 Like, I want to be not the best player on a team, but I want to be noticed as the one who's helping the team the most. 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:17.599 And I think in, you know, in work, in school, it's not because I'm just so smart, it's because I'm willing to work at whatever. 00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:19.359 I'm willing to work with this team. 00:20:19.440 --> 00:20:23.839 And Tim works with golf carts and uh I know nothing about golf carts. 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:26.880 But sometimes there are things that Tim doesn't know about golf carts. 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:33.599 But what he's willing to tell the golf course where he's working is I don't know this answer, but I'm willing to get back with you. 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:41.039 And so it's the outside, again, is that not necessarily the thing that's happening right there in front of you, but let me help you out with this, let me find out. 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:48.000 And so I think that that work ethic going above and beyond, doing the extra mile, standing out. 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:54.160 Not as a prideful, I'm standing out because I'm so good at this, but because I want to help you so much with this. 00:20:54.400 --> 00:20:54.640 Yeah. 00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:55.759 That's a big deal. 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:59.519 It's definitely easier to follow leaders when they're servant-hearted. 00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:01.519 You know, we all lead organizations. 00:21:01.920 --> 00:21:07.279 When I think about our pastor Dennis, yeah, it's like he's such a great leader because he's so servant-hearted. 00:21:07.359 --> 00:21:15.680 He doesn't think about himself higher than the rest of us, but he's able to get down and do the dirty work,

which makes it more trusting of him for hey, I can trust what he says. 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:16.240 Yeah. 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:23.200 Yeah, I just can't help but picture Jesus washing the disciples' feet and then saying, What are you doing? 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:25.200 He could have done the because, because, because thing. 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:29.519 But he did kind of say, look, you don't get it now, but later on you will. 00:21:29.759 --> 00:21:39.200 And sure enough, that's what he calls us to as disciples is to serve others, to give our lives, to go and make disciples. 00:21:39.359 --> 00:21:50.640 And so if we're teaching our kids that, man, what a spiritual gift to them to help them learn the value of not just doing your chores, but learning to serve others. 00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:58.400 Yeah, I think sometimes the flip side of that is when we don't allow others to serve, we are taking that blessing from them. 00:21:58.559 --> 00:22:04.319 Last night with Tegan, I could Have said nobody, I've got the eggs, but now he's learned, he's got some confidence in cooking. 00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:07.519 If you're just I I've got it, it's all right, I'll handle it. 00:22:07.759 --> 00:22:15.440 We are taking that opportunity for learning, for serving, for all of these blessings away from people, our kids or others. 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:21.039 And I'm sure we can think of folks, and I was so prideful that I didn't want to be served. 00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:22.720 I didn't want people to do something for me. 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:23.440 Oh, I can do it. 00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:27.359 And so that's a big part about serving is letting others serve you. 00:22:27.680 --> 00:22:36.799 I think it's John 13, 14, where Jesus says, if I, your master, have washed your feet, then you also ought to wash one another's feet. 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:41.359 So it's that thought of I've received foot washing, so I should do it to others. 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:49.200 Yeah, we could go on and continue to talk about our own personal experiences, but be encouraged. 00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:57.759 Don't let chores just become a battleground or a drudgery that you have to do, but try to see it as such a teaching opportunity. 00:22:57.839 --> 00:23:02.319 And day to day it is the drudgery in a sense of saying, let's do this, let's do this. 00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:12.559 But in your devotional time as you're seeking how can I disciple my kids, consider chores and serving and stewardship and the bigger picture. 00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:16.240 Bring Jesus into it and talk about his servant heart. 00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:19.839 And he's the greatest there ever was, ever will be. 00:23:20.079 --> 00:23:20.319 Yeah. 00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:28.480 And there is so much beauty in just the ordinary things of life, just the day-to-day faithfulness, like you said, drudgery, mundane. 00:23:28.640 --> 00:23:28.799 Yeah. 00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:34.400 You know, like it's in those moments that God makes us to look more like him as we seek obedience to Christ. 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:36.640 And so yeah, don't take that for granted. 00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:39.680 Think like, what is the Lord teaching me through these chores? 00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:43.920 It's teaching me to obey him, to be more like him in some form or fashion. 00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:45.039 It really does. 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:48.720 We talk before the podcast a lot of times, like, okay, what's the main issue here? 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:51.599 The main issue here is that people don't like to serve. 00:23:51.759 --> 00:23:55.359 It goes against the grain of who we are as humans. 00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:58.640 We're selfish by sinful nature, right? 00:23:58.799 --> 00:24:03.200 As new creations, we're learning to be selfless and to serve. 00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:09.200 And so chores gets right down to the dirty part of us that we want to take care of ourselves. 00:24:09.359 --> 00:24:10.079 I want to take a nap. 00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:11.119 I want to play video games. 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:12.000 I want to watch a show. 00:24:12.079 --> 00:24:13.839 I don't want to go, wait, no. 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:24.240 And like you're saying, in the mundane little things on a Tuesday night, uh, hey, I'm gonna go clean up a little bit of this stuff so my wife doesn't have to, or you know, serve somebody else. 00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:24.720 Wow. 00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:38.960 That's what is uniquely cool about a lot of Christians is their desire to go help people that they don't even hardly have a relationship with, or to care for somebody uh who's in prison or orphan or whatever it may be. 00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:41.119 That's historically what the church has been. 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:48.400 I mean, the earliest hospitals built by Christians and throughout the years, money given to the poor, and we could say on and on and on. 00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:56.799 And yeah, I was thinking about Mark VIII as you were sharing, and if anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. 00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:02.960 So that's the servanthood is a central beginning of a f of a life with Christ because it's denial of oneself. 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:05.279 This is a lot as parent. 00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:11.039 There's some very practical things here, but in all of this, I think the important thing is pointing to Jesus. 00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:17.839 Like it's not just sometimes it is because I said so, but that authority is because we know the authority in our life. 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:26.160 And so in all of this, there are opportunities as parents that we can point back to the Lord and how Jesus was sent to serve us ultimately with his life. 00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:33.920 So we hope that you have gotten something out of this and that you're not too busy doing chores, that you're letting everybody help around the house. 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:35.839 But if you are, you might as well turn on a good podcast. 00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:37.680 Maybe they're doing chores and listening. 00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:40.160 I mean, definitely I think it's a great plan. 00:25:40.319 --> 00:25:42.079 Uh, but we would love to hear from you too. 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:43.279 You can always give us a call. 00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:44.880 Paul, can you tell us that number? 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:48.480 6298 3056. 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:52.400 Yeah, and you can email us anytime at anchored at harpschossing.com. 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:53.519 We'd love to hear from you. 00:25:53.680 --> 00:25:56.000 Until next time, stay anchored.