النص الكامل لحلقة Changemaker Stacey Coleman, Culture and Sustainability Manager, UNMC College of Public Health

very unique title. 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:50.080 Try not to make it a lot of words because some folks have very wordy titles and I didn't want that. 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:50.719 Yeah. 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:57.280 So my official title is Culture and Sustainability Manager within UNMC's College of Public Health. 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:02.159 I've been doing that particular work since May of 2021. 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:02.960 Oh, wow. 00:03:03.439 --> 00:03:07.039 Just just a hair, just a hair over five years. 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:07.599 Okay. 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:10.479 Wow, I didn't realize it until I said it out loud. 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:10.719 Yeah. 00:03:11.039 --> 00:03:13.280 Sometimes you don't do the math until you say it out loud. 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:14.080 Right. 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:26.879 But I started working in the College of Public Health January of 2013 as a office associate II which is UNMC's way of saying administrative assistant. 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:27.439 Okay. 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:37.680 And quite frankly, that was to pay the bills and help fund my life, which needed to be done and just kind of morphed into that. 00:03:37.680 --> 00:03:45.520 But when I applied to UNMC and saw the College of Public Health, I really liked what they were doing. 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:51.039 because prior to the pandemic, a lot of people didn't know what public health even was. 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:51.599 Right. 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:55.439 We didn't even think about public health until the pandemic. 00:03:55.439 --> 00:03:58.639 And then it's like, oh yeah, this is important. 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:00.400 It's very important. 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:05.039 So what I like to call us, and this is my elevator pitch, you won't find it on the website. 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:15.599 But when I'm in the community and people ask me, I say, we do the micro and the macro, we do the things you can't see every day, but that you trust in every day. 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:21.680 So clean water, clean air, clean environment, healthy populations. 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:22.399 Yeah. 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:30.639 So like a doctor that's an MD that goes into a clinic and they see a patient, they see however many patients they can see in the course of a day. 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:32.959 We'll say 10, just for the sake of math. 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:33.360 Yeah. 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:44.480 Whereas our research, number one, helps that physician make those direct clinic-to-patient decisions through the research, but we also affect populations. 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:45.279 Yeah. 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:50.560 So you think about, again, we'll use the one that everybody knows of. 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:52.319 We'll use the pandemic. 00:04:52.319 --> 00:05:02.240 Yes, we were the ones telling people to wear the mask because you gotta understand everything kind of hit early, late winter, early spring of 2020. 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:06.639 The vaccine didn't come out until mid-winter of 2021. 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:07.439 Right. 00:05:07.439 --> 00:05:12.959 I mean, we've I've been trying to remember back because you know it's funny how soon you forget. 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:18.639 Like that was such a big and fast and life-altering event. 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:25.040 But it seems like lately I've been talking about it and it and I have started to forget. 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:35.120 Like I have started to, you know, forget what was it like the first day when we shut down and what were we doing, and how long did it take for the vaccine to come out? 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:37.680 It's amazing how soon we forget. 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:41.680 Fortunately, we in the College of Public Health, we haven't forgotten. 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:42.240 Right. 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:42.959 Thank you for that. 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:44.560 And that's what we're here to do. 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:57.839 We're here to make it so that things, you know, little bugs, you know, you're hearing about the I can't pronounce it, but you know, the one that's making everybody really, really avoid to get a bag of lettuce right now. 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:01.040 The what— the one, yeah, nobody wants to eat lettuce. 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:05.040 Everybody, everybody is giving up those salads at the moment. 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:08.800 Yeah, everybody's like, no, I'm— I'll pass. 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:14.480 But, you know, I remember our dean saying this several years ago. 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:18.399 We're doing our jobs well if you don't see us doing our jobs. 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:19.519 Right. 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:31.279 So we literally are, I don't want to say invisible because you know, we're humans, we do take up space, but you know, you think about everything that you do. 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:38.560 And in short, if you think about it, every single thing you do is regulated in one way, shape, form, or another. 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:40.480 Public health is part of that work. 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:40.879 Yeah. 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:50.879 To make the water as clean as possible, to make your children's going to school, go back going back to school experience as healthy as possible. 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:55.360 Again, public health, everybody needs to be healthy. 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:57.519 So think of it as populations. 00:06:57.519 --> 00:07:14.319 So, you know, yes, we help those physicians in the clinic have conversations with their patients one-on-one, but we also help populations, we help politicians and businesses and municipalities all over the world. 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:20.560 It's not just even here in the state of Nebraska or in the United States, it's we are worldwide. 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:20.879 Yeah. 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:25.839 I think of that old Rob Base song, we are internationally known. 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:27.279 Absolutely. 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:34.240 I think

you're one of the things, people in Nebraska have a lot of pride over UNMC, right? 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:52.079 And the work that you've done during COVID, the work that you've done some of— through some of the other major health epidemics that you know people turn to UNMC, the work that you've done on vaccine campaigns, not just COVID, but but all across the board. 00:07:52.079 --> 00:07:53.279 I think that's really cool. 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:57.680 I want to, Stacey, I want to give a shout-out too, to my friend Dr. 00:07:57.680 --> 00:07:59.199 Khalilah LeGrand. 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:03.439 I don't know if you know Khalilah, but she is based here in Nebraska. 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:20.160 and she is the vice president of communications and public relations at an organization called ASTHO, which is a tough acronym, but it's the Association of State and Territorial Health Officials, I believe. 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:23.519 But when she was on the podcast, she said the same thing. 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:28.480 She said, if we are doing our job, you do not notice us. 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:39.360 And when people are complaining about water or viruses or different things, then that's, you know, that's that's our work happening. 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:39.919 Yeah. 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:41.519 Yes, yes. 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:49.840 And you know, and I liken it to what a car mechanic told me years ago when I was frustrated that I had spent $800 on a car repair. 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:56.399 He said, You spent $800 so that your car, whenever you need it to go, goes. 00:08:56.480 --> 00:08:56.559 Yeah. 00:08:56.720 --> 00:08:57.519 And it comes. 00:08:57.519 --> 00:09:12.480 You know, that nice journey to home you hear when you go down the road instead of clicky clack, clack, boom, boom, boom, bam, pop, goes, you could have got the clickety-click, boom, boom, bam, pop for $400, but you would be stuck on the side of the road. 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:12.879 Yeah. 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:15.840 And so that's really what public health is about. 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:32.799 It's making sure that everything— that you can live your life and you don't have to think about is my water clean, is my air, you know, clean, is, you know, all those things, the food supply, everything, everything. 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:43.279 I'm thinking about food because you know, I'm a fluffy girl and I like those are not the only examples, but those are the ones that I relate to the most because, again, food is my love language. 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:56.240 Well, and you think about it, we all just kind of take it for granted until something comes up like this, and I can't pronounce it either, but this thing that's going on right now that's kept us from eating lettuce for a short time. 00:09:56.240 --> 00:10:02.799 So then I love that you are doing this work to make the world a better place. 00:10:02.799 --> 00:10:08.799 And and I think since the pandemic, a lot of people have refocused and said, I want to make a difference in the world. 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:13.440 So you are at the epicenter of that at the College of Public Health. 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:19.600 But then on top of that, you are the culture and sustainability manager. 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:25.840 It sounds a little bit like the dream job of purpose-driven work. 00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:28.159 Tell us more about that. 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:28.960 Well, yes. 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:30.159 So let me be clear. 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:33.679 I am not a my degrees are not in public health. 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:34.240 Okay. 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:37.200 I'm what I call, I work in the College of Public Health. 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:38.639 I'm public health adjacent. 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:39.039 Yeah. 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:43.519 But, you know, I'm also chief CEO, chief encouragement officer. 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:44.559 Love that. 00:10:44.559 --> 00:10:52.159 I love to, you know, hype up my faculty and the staff members and the students for the wonderful, awesome work that they do. 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:55.120 So everything we just said was about their work. 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:55.519 Yeah. 00:10:55.759 --> 00:11:14.240 Now, what I do as I walk the halls of the College of Public Health is I'm there to make sure that again, the faculty, the staff, the students, alumni, community partners, all those folks, when they come in and they interact with us, that they have a positive cultural experience, whatever that may be. 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:18.000 Because again, we are affecting populations. 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:28.639 So we need to be a student, understand the needs and wants and desires of those populations, both outside of us and inside of us. 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:31.279 How are we affecting that change? 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:49.840 Are we being our our best selves, our authentic selves, realness, all those, all those things, belonging, inclusivity, coping, all those things that we need to be so that we can deliver the best product, and I'm putting product in air quotes, yeah, as possible. 00:11:49.840 --> 00:11:52.000 So that's what I am there to do. 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:59.120 and that's where my education and experience and all of those things kind of come back and bring it on home. 00:11:59.360 --> 00:11:59.600 Yeah. 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:03.279 I like baseball too, so a baseball analogy might pop up here. 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:05.519 Anyway, go Cardinals, I'm a St. 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:06.240 Louis Cardinals fan. 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:11.039 Okay, well, and if you're based in Omaha, you should know a thing or two about baseball as well. 00:12:11.139 --> 00:12:11.139  Just a little bit. 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:12.559 Right. 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:13.279 You should. 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:14.080 You should. 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:23.120 So Stacey, I just want I want to follow up on that because you know you talked about your

experience in getting into this role, but what does your background look like? 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:24.080 I'm really curious. 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:31.600 Like I'm imagining a you know, little 10-year-old Stacey on the playground, and somebody says, what do you want to be when you grow up? 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:35.679 And you're— you say, I want to be a culture and sustainability manager. 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:38.559 I'm guessing it didn't exactly go like that. 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:42.559 No, 10-year-old Stacey didn't even have a clue what that was. 00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:43.840 Right, right. 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:54.320 I— the best way— my journey has been a lot of squiggly lines, it has not been linear by any stretch of the imagination, but it has been organic. 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:57.039 I think that would be the way I would describe it. 00:12:57.039 --> 00:13:01.279 And I think of it like the nesting dolls, one thing next to another. 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:03.120 So that's what I mean by organic. 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:03.919 I love that. 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:06.960 Somebody asked me this actually a couple of days ago. 00:13:06.960 --> 00:13:10.240 I was in a training and they were like, How did you get into this? 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:18.000 And I was like, Well, I was walking down the hall, minding my own business, and they laughed because they thought I was, you know, making it up. 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:20.559 And I'm like, no, that's literally what I was doing. 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:28.000 I was walking down the hall, minding my own business, trying to get through the business day, doing whatever business need I had to do in that moment. 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:36.240 Yeah, and somebody yelled my name from down the hall, and they said, I heard that you like to do this, and I'm like, Yeah. 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:38.559 They said you should be part of this meeting. 00:13:38.559 --> 00:13:40.080 And I said, What meeting? 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:42.320 And they're like, You didn't know that we were meeting. 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:44.720 I said, I had no clue that that even existed. 00:13:44.879 --> 00:13:45.440 Oh man. 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:49.600 And they said you should come to the meeting, and I said, Okay. 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:52.559 It sounds a little bit like a kidnapping. 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:59.919 It wasn't a kidnapping, it was kind of I mean, I did jump when they shouted my name from down the hall. 00:13:59.919 --> 00:14:03.120 So yeah, it was startling, I will say that. 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:13.120 Okay, and the longest and long and short of it is I kept asking questions, people kept saying yes, and you should do it. 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:14.240 And I said, Really? 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:15.919 And they said yes, you should do it. 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:19.120 And I asked the people, I said, Can I do this? 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:21.039 And they said, Yes, you should do it. 00:14:21.039 --> 00:14:23.360 And bam, I'm doing it. 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:24.000 Cool. 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:26.879 I mean, that's the short version of it. 00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:27.759 I love it. 00:14:27.759 --> 00:14:28.559 That's awesome. 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:43.120 So then, on top of that, though, this isn't the only thing you're doing because alongside this work, you've also taken on the role of the you're the inaugural president of the UNMC Staff Advisory Council. 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:45.279 So tell me more about that. 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:49.039 You sound like the kind of person that likes to be involved. 00:14:49.519 --> 00:14:51.600 blame that on my mother. 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:58.159 My mother was, you know, she she basically said, you know what, if you don't work, you don't eat. 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:00.480 I like to eat, therefore, I work. 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:03.039 That work again happened organically. 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:06.720 It was the summer of 2020, in the middle of the pandemic. 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:11.039 Was in a meeting, and we were all kind of on on Zoom, of course. 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:11.519 Yes. 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:20.000 And we were all kind of brainstorming, and somebody said, You know, our campus doesn't have a staff senate staff advisory council. 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:24.720 The other NU campuses, Lincoln, Kearney, Omaha, they do. 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:26.240 Yeah, how come we don't? 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:29.039 And I was like, Well, let's ask. 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:41.679 So we did, we did, we did a survey, roughly about 400, 400 and 450 people from all around UNMC said this is a good idea. 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:46.320 One of those people at the well, at the time he was Chancellor Gold, now he's President Gold. 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:48.080 Oh, right, that's right. 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:50.480 He was actually one of the respondents. 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:57.120 We all looked at each other, our jaws dropped, our eyes got big, and it's like, did you see who responded to the survey today? 00:15:57.120 --> 00:16:07.200 we knew from the very beginning that we had administrative buy-in, which was a very good thing, but we still had to put in the work. 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:18.000 So that started that summer of convening a group of half a dozen now former, some some of them are no longer with the university. 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:26.720 But we reached out to about a half a dozen UNMC employees and said, Hey, would you be willing to? 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:30.639 Again, this is the work of the gaps, nobody's getting extra extra pay. 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:31.120 Right. 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:35.519 You still got to do your regular job, you know, the job that's on your job description job. 00:16:35.519 --> 00:16:45.039 But we met over the course of I don't remember how long, I want to say, because it is, it was the work of the gaps, I want to say for at least a year, maybe two. 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:53.200 And we

hammered out UNMC staff advisory council bylaws, using the other other campuses bylaws as templates. 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:53.679 Yeah. 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:57.120 And and putting in our own verbiage and our own needs. 00:16:57.120 --> 00:17:03.200 Because while we are within the NU system, we are also the medical center campus. 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:06.960 So we're a little, we we're a little bit different from our sister campuses. 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:09.359 Yeah, it is a different thing, right? 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:09.599 Yeah. 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:10.000 Right. 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:14.880 So those, so using those other bylaws as templates sometimes didn't work. 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:17.839 So that's when we, you know, we had to have discussions. 00:17:17.839 --> 00:17:22.000 Some of them were very active and very robust discussions, let me tell you. 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:24.319 but we eventually got it done. 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:27.599 We got it approved by leadership. 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:33.440 We we got it reapproved by leadership because that's not just a one-and-done process. 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:38.319 And we officially became recognized when Dr, excuse me, yes, Dr. 00:17:38.319 --> 00:17:38.880 Gold. 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:39.839 He's always Dr. 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:40.240 Gold. 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:43.440 I gotta remember what's the chancellor president at that time. 00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:44.240 When Dr. 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:52.000 Gold, who who then is now President Gold, convened us April 29th of 2025. 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:52.960 Wow. 00:17:52.960 --> 00:18:00.559 And we were we we jam-packed into a a boardroom, and it's like this is it. 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:01.200 Cool. 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:01.759 We're here. 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:04.240 So you've been going for a little over a year now. 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:06.799 Just a little over a year, just a little bit. 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:12.480 As a matter of fact, my my presidency will wrap up here on Friday, the end of this month. 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:14.160 Oh wow, congratulations. 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:14.720 Right. 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:16.799 I'll move into the past president role. 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:25.920 So I'll still be on the executive committee for another year, but I passed a baton to the next president coming up. 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:31.440 So a lot of lessons learned in this last year, a lot of revisions and things like that. 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:33.119 A lot of good work happened. 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:39.359 And again, sometimes you just sit back and you and you catch a breath and you drink some water and you go, Whoa. 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:41.759 You're doing some big things. 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:42.799 Right. 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:52.000 Didn't realize, but you know, it's kind of like you know, you look back at a project after it's done, it's like, man, and people are like, How long did it take? 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:53.680 And you're like, you don't want to know. 00:18:53.680 --> 00:18:55.680 You just don't want to know. 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:57.279 Just be glad it's done. 00:18:57.279 --> 00:18:59.599 Enjoy the doneness of the project. 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:01.119 Yeah. 00:19:01.119 --> 00:19:05.440 Sometimes if you knew what it was gonna take, you would never get started, right? 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:08.000 I mean, ignorance is bliss. 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:08.960 Ignorance is bliss. 00:19:09.599 --> 00:19:23.680 I don't know how many times, and I remember as a young, as a young girl and a young, a young adult, I remember the ancestors would tell me that they were like, you know, if you understood everything that it was gonna take, you would say no. 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:35.119 Like, yeah, because if you would have asked me in 2020, knowing what it was gonna look like come 2025, 2026, I probably would have said no, to be honest. 00:19:35.119 --> 00:19:36.079 I would have said no. 00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:38.480 Yeah, I'm glad that I did not say no. 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:44.400 And I'm glad that that's how the universe decides to do things is don't tell you everything up front. 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:45.519 Yeah. 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:47.599 Because fear factor is real. 00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:56.720 Yeah. So I'm curious, I'd love to kind of reverse that a little bit and think about you've been you've been at UNMC, is it 20 years now? 00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:00.880 I have been within the NU system for 20. 00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:05.279 Actually, 20 years and like seven months. 00:20:05.279 --> 00:20:05.920 Wow. 00:20:05.920 --> 00:20:13.119 I started at UNO in at January beginning of January, beginning of the calendar year, January of 2006. 00:20:13.119 --> 00:20:19.839 I worked in the Career Center at UNO from January of 06 to October of 2012. 00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:23.039 So roughly about six, seven years. 00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:23.599 Yeah. 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:31.440 And then came on here at UNMC January of 2013, and have been in the College of Public Health ever since. 00:20:31.440 --> 00:20:35.920 I've been on two campuses within that 20, 20.5 years. 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:36.720 Yeah. 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:37.359 Yeah. 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:39.599 That's a lot. 00:20:39.599 --> 00:21:03.039 I'm really curious how these experiences, being with the College of Public Health, being the culture and sustainability manager, and now being that inaugural president of the faculty or staff advisory council, how have they shaped your views on leadership and what leadership means to you? 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:05.279 Oh, Lyn, how much time do we got? 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:11.839 The one thing, again, I'm kind of going, you know, remembering past Stacey. 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:21.519 And we— I remember I had a a director at UNO when I was at the Career Center, and we were getting ready for a large-scale event. 00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:35.440 And I

think I had a little, I know, not I think, I know I had a bit of imposter syndrome in that moment because I was being asked to talk to these people with you know big fancy titles, and here I am, just little lowly Stacey Coleman. 00:21:35.680 --> 00:21:36.240 Oh no. 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:43.680 And she sat me down and she looked me square in my eyes and she said, Stacey, titles don't mean bleep. 00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:46.000 I'll let your audience figure out. 00:21:46.400 --> 00:21:47.279 Fill in the bleep. Okay. 00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:52.480 And thank you for bleeping yourself because I don't have bleeping technology. 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:53.839 So I appreciate that. 00:21:54.160 --> 00:22:01.359 I watch enough late night TV to learn the value that it is best to self censor because sometimes they don't always catch it. 00:22:01.359 --> 00:22:09.119 That is something that I— title and expertise are not necessarily synonymous. 00:22:09.839 --> 00:22:10.079 Right. 00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:12.400 That's something I've learned in this past year. 00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:15.839 You can be the expert in the room and not have the title. 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:17.759 You can, you can be both. 00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:19.680 You can have the title and be the expert. 00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:20.720 Yes, absolutely. 00:22:20.720 --> 00:22:22.720 Let me not ruffle any feathers. 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:23.920 Right, right. 00:22:23.920 --> 00:22:29.119 But I've realized how many times experts are called in. 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:36.480 Much like when, you know, I like to watch some of the legal shows, much when the defense or the prosecution will bring in an expert. 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:36.960 Yeah. 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:38.880 The expert witness, right? 00:22:39.119 --> 00:22:46.000 The expert witness, you know, the person that knows, you know, a lot about this very specific thing. 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:51.119 And I was amazed at how many times that happens. 00:22:51.119 --> 00:23:03.279 But because the thing that I also learned is leadership don't necessarily like to make fly by the seat of their pants decisions. 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:07.680 Especially not in higher education, I think. 00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:09.119 Yeah. 00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:16.000 But you know, you gotta do what you gotta do with what you have in that moment. 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:32.079 And that's where understanding how to discern what should versus should not be done, regardless of what your constituencies are or are not saying, and things of that nature. 00:23:32.079 --> 00:23:33.599 And it's not easy. 00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:34.160 Yeah. 00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:38.559 My mom always used to say there's a cost to be the boss. 00:23:38.559 --> 00:23:45.119 And you know, some titles I'm okay not having. 00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:45.759 Yeah. 00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:48.480 That's also what I learned this last year. 00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:51.200 Some titles I'm okay not having. 00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:51.759 Yeah. 00:23:52.000 --> 00:24:07.440 I'm not, I'm not, and and I, and I, and I look at the people that do have those titles with a different level of respect because there are days it's six, seven o'clock in the evening, and I'm enjoying my evening eating dinner. 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:16.160 Not always, because sometimes it requires a late, the late, late hours for me as well, but more likely than not. 00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:24.319 And I was remembering how someone once told me one of one of the leaders their average getting home time was 10 o'clock at night. 00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:25.519 Yeah, right. 00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:28.079 I'm like, no. 00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:32.960 It's not as glamorous, not as glamorous as one might think, right? 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:35.839 Not nearly, not nearly, not nearly. 00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:38.400 and that's the big revelation. 00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:43.839 And but really and truly, kind of going back to the RYY conference where we met. 00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:46.480 Yeah, it was a great conference, by the way. 00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:49.200 It was a tremendously awesome conference. 00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:52.720 Learned so much, and it and it validated so much. 00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:53.279 Yes. 00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:56.720 So it wasn't just learning, but confirming as well. 00:24:56.880 --> 00:24:58.880 Which is really important, yes. 00:24:58.880 --> 00:25:06.880 Yes, and the biggest thing that I think people forget, especially in these unprecedented times, one of my leaders and mentors told me that night. 00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:08.799 I told him I was gonna steal it. 00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:12.640 We all need to remember we're human too. 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:19.839 Leaders are just as human as we are, they put their pants on one leg at a time, just as just like we do, Lyn. 00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:26.720 As a matter of fact, one of the leaders that I that I truly respect very highly, I saw her at Costco. 00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:32.319 And I'm standing there having like this really weird, because you know, it's Costco. 00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:33.839 It's Costco, yeah. 00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:41.039 You know, there's like 50 people in between me and you know, this person, but I see them from afar. 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:50.960 And I realized I was having one of those moments like when you're a little kid and you see your teacher outside of school, you don't realize your teacher is like a real person. 00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:51.440 Yeah. 00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:54.960 I was like, she's shopping at Costco just like me. 00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:59.039 She's gonna do chores on the weekend just like you do, Stacey. 00:25:59.039 --> 00:26:10.240 Yes, like she she needs groceries, plus like she eats, like you know, those things that you you sometimes really truly, yeah, even as a grown adult, you forget. 00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:15.359 Yeah, and these people are just as human as you are, and in some cases

more so. 00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:19.839 And life's for them just as much as it does for you. 00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:38.640 They've had love and loss and and and days where their body is fussing at them and they show up and they show, they show up and they they they don't complain, and I'm not gonna say they never complain, but they don't complain and they still get the job done. 00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:39.599 Yeah. 00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:48.319 And that to me was one of the biggest lessons was recognizing the humanity of the leaders. 00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:50.559 I love that. 00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:54.400 I'd love to take that even to the next step. 00:26:54.400 --> 00:27:21.839 And I imagine you've got some deep thoughts on this, but as you think about being in a role where you shape workplace culture, you know, what are you finding is most important in creating that culture where people can really thrive and thrive as human beings and not robots that clock in and clock out and do everything exactly right? 00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.160 Well, I'm gonna go ahead and put it on repeat, and I'm gonna say the same thing. 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:28.799 It's recognizing the humanity. 00:27:28.799 --> 00:27:33.599 We are not robots, we are not we're not AI. 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.319 We use AI as a tool, but we are not AI. 00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:38.000 We are not AI, yeah. 00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:43.200 And we are not monoliths, we're not just one. 00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:58.960 I had a my former pastor, she's a diamond aficionado, she loves herself some diamonds, and she held up this very large acrylic diamond, and she said, To a perfect diamond, there are 57 facets. 00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:00.960 I use this example a lot. 00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:02.160 I did not know that. 00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:07.440 I didn't know it either, but you know, again, sometimes you just sit there and you learn. 00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:11.920 She also taught like her congregation like a college professor. 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:16.000 So I was ready to get my master's degree before I ever walked into a graduate class. 00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:20.400 Spirituality would be a good thing to get your master's degree in, or humanity. 00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:22.480 It's an awesome thing. 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:24.720 And so that's what she said. 00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:27.759 She goes, There's 57 facets to a perfect diamond. 00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:32.640 She goes, but can you, from where you're sitting, can you see all 57 facets of this diamond? 00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:43.759 It's like, no, it's like you might be able to see 10 or 5, or if somebody, you know, because we had a sound booth that's kind of set elevated and high up, she goes, you might be able to see 20. 00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:56.799 But until you get up close and you spend time and you have the right instruments to look at that diamond holistically, you will never see all 57. 00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:12.319 And so I say that to say when we are in our workplaces, even though I show up authentically, you may only see eight facets. 00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:13.200 Yeah. 00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:13.680 Really? 00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:24.160 Because I don't need to bring every single facet of me to work that way today. 00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:24.720 Yeah. 00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:28.480 but that doesn't mean that I don't have those facets. 00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:40.880 And so when I think of what my specific role and what my specific work is, is to help other people see that and to acknowledge that. 00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:49.279 and one of the things I've been saying of late is this is not just the time to receive grace, this is also the time to give grace. 00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:52.480 And not just to each other, but also to ourselves. 00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:54.480 To yourself, for sure. 00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:56.720 Put your oxygen mask on first. 00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:58.640 Easier said than done, right? 00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:01.279 Like it's so easy to tell everyone else to do that. 00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:05.519 And then when it comes to yourself or myself, yeah. 00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:19.200 Yes, and and it takes practice, and that's why when I interact with people and they look at me with those big huge eyes, and you know, I said, you're gonna more likely the first few times mess it up. 00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:25.759 Like, I'm gonna give you, I need you to inhale, exhale, bring the shoulders down, breathe. 00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:29.039 I look be surprised how many people aren't breathing in that moment. 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:32.400 Like I'm like, you were holding your breath that whole time. 00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:35.759 But be okay, and that's the other thing. 00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:39.119 Be okay sometimes, like knowing you're gonna mess it up. 00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:39.839 Yeah. 00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:47.279 because again, we are human, and we're not on purpose walking, like I'm not gonna wake up tomorrow going, you know what? 00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:49.200 Today I'm gonna mess something up. 00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:55.440 No, I'm gonna go in doing the best I possibly can, but that is also a gradient of success. 00:30:55.440 --> 00:31:05.920 Sometimes, some days the best is 75%, some days it's 20%, some days it's like, look, just be glad I opened my eyes, my feet hit the floor. 00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:06.720 Yeah. 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:07.839 Those things. 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:13.680 So, and then everything else can be added on and can be can be learned and can be taught. 00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:25.759 But once you really recognize and remember to consistently see yourself with grace and see others' humanity with grace, it makes the work that I need to do a whole lot easier. 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:27.440 I love it, Stacey. 00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:30.640 That is really it's really great advice. 00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:39.200 And also while you were saying breathe and

drop your shoulders, it was a good reminder to me to breathe and drop my shoulders just while we're talking here today, right? 00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:40.240 It's a good reminder. 00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:55.119 So, as you, Stacey, as you're thinking about UNMC, I mean, I know you're you're soon to be the past president of the staff advisory council, but what else is on the horizon? 00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:57.759 What are you excited about that's coming up? 00:31:57.759 --> 00:31:59.599 That's a very good question. 00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:02.559 I've actually been thinking about that. 00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:07.039 You know, right now I think I'm just in a transition phase, and that's okay. 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:07.680 Yeah. 00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:11.279 I've actually been thinking about that for several months now. 00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:15.839 It's like, okay, there's gonna come a day where you're not doing this. 00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:17.920 So what are you gonna do? 00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:22.799 And I get a lot of revelations when I'm cleaning my townhouse. 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:27.599 When I'm vacuuming or mopping or just cleaning, because that's tactile. 00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.960 Like I sometimes I just need to, that's how I get the anxiety out. 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.200 It's like, you know what, let's go do a load of laundry. 00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:36.160 Sometimes there's only three pieces of laundry in the load, don't care. 00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:44.880 It's just about going somewhere and like re you know, you know, reprogramming the brain. 00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:47.680 And I said to myself, you know what? 00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:50.640 It's okay not to have all the answers right now. 00:32:50.640 --> 00:33:00.079 Because you look at, I looked, I thought about my journey, like the question you just asked me previously about how did you get from 10-year-old self to yeah, to here, yeah. 00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:03.759 And it and like I said, it really truly did happen organically. 00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:07.200 And I just said to myself, you know what, I'm just gonna continue to lean into that. 00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:13.039 I'm gonna lean into and that that sounds like I'm just letting whatever happened happen. 00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:14.799 No, that's not what it means. 00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:20.799 It means I'm not going to try to over overdo. 00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:21.359 Yeah. 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:27.839 Like, okay, I'm gonna wake up, and sometimes it's like, all right, let's just focus on what needs to be done today. 00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:28.640 Mm-hmm. 00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:28.960 Yeah. 00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:42.400 I'm just— what needs to be done today before the sun goes down, before you close the laptop, before you get in the car, drive home, what needs to be done today. 00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:43.279 Yeah. 00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:45.279 And that's it. 00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:55.039 And there's a saying above my desk in the office that I got from a coworker shortly after my mom passed, and I had come back to work. 00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:57.279 And whoo, that was hard to do. 00:33:57.680 --> 00:33:58.559 I can't imagine it. 00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:06.319 It's a cup of tea sitting on a windowsill with the rain, the rain is on the you know, the the raindrops are on the window. 00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:12.079 And it just says you don't have to take everything today all at once, just take it one day at a time. 00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:15.360 Things will get done when they get done. 00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:18.400 And that's what I think about. 00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:26.880 I think about, you know, I don't need to try to sit there and spin my wheels and think about 50 million things today. 00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:30.239 They'll get done when they get done. 00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:30.639 Yeah. 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:36.320 Or it's like the spiritual people would say, everything has a season, everything in its due time. 00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:37.039 Yeah. 00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:38.960 And you don't want to rush it. 00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:51.679 I appreciate that because I also believe— being somebody who's has I've had chapters in my life where I've tried to control and drive and plan everything, right? 00:34:51.679 --> 00:35:10.800 And what I find is when I try to have that level of control and I go through life literally with my fists— fist balled up and my jaws clenched, I'm not present to see the opportunities that are around me. 00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:32.239 And I think that being open to see what's happening and accept those opportunities, being open to letting people help you, being open to, you know, riding the wave as opposed to swimming against the current. 00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:37.039 I think those are those are lessons that I learned later in life. 00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:48.000 And it's just funny because what I thought was going to lead to success is not exactly the way it worked out, right? 00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:49.039 Exactly. 00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:50.800 And and that's life. 00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:59.760 And that's what I tell the young people that I mentor because you know, some of them are, you know, gritting their teeth and they're they're grinding their teeth, they're not even gritting. 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:02.239 Yes, they're grinding, you got it. 00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:05.119 And they're like, you know, I gotta do and I gotta do. 00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:06.800 And I just ask a very simple question. 00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:07.920 I said, Who said? 00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:11.280 And they look at me like, what? 00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:16.639 I said, Who said that that's— who said? 00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:23.039 Who said that you're gonna fail if you don't fill in the bike or whatever they told me they needed to do. 00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:28.159 And they're like, Nobody, nobody said it. 00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:32.239 I said, So if nobody said it, who you

listening to? 00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:33.039 Yeah. 00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:42.960 And then they just look at me like, be still a second, take a beat. 00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:44.320 That's one of my favorite phrases. 00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:45.440 Take a beat. I like it. 00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:48.400 One of the young men I mentor is like, take a beat. 00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:49.760 And he will. 00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:53.920 He's learned, he's like, okay, when Miss Stacey says take a beat, I remember taking it. 00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:58.480 I'm like, take a beat and ask yourself some questions. 00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:06.000 And you know, I'm 53 years old, soon to be 54 here, closer to 54 than 53. 00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:09.039 And I have to ask myself that those same questions sometimes. 00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:18.000 Remember to take the breath in, drop the shoulders, you know, ask yourself some clarifying questions, then proceed. 00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:18.480 Yeah. 00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:40.400 Yeah, it's really about just, you know, for me right now, in relation to that question you asked, is you know, just trusting the process will be the process because it has been, again, my experience has been you've done that before and everything's been just fine. 00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:43.599 So why do you think it wouldn't be just fine moving forward? 00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:45.760 I love it. 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:46.880 I love it. 00:37:46.880 --> 00:38:05.119 Stacey, one of the reasons I was really excited to have you on the podcast is I know we have a lot of leaders that listen to this podcast who are really concerned about taking care of their people and having a good workplace culture. 00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:08.400 And sometimes it's not always easy. 00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:10.320 I'm I'm really curious. 00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:22.880 Do you have some advice for us on what are some key things leaders can do to help instill that culture that's really, you know, help healthy and helps people thrive? 00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:25.280 I didn't know that this was an actual term. 00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:27.840 So I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell it to you the way I learned it. 00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:32.800 Then I think I'm gonna try to use a fancy word that I learned just the past week. 00:38:32.570 --> 00:38:32.800 Alright. 00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:37.280 But I get— I get that question. 00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:40.239 I've heard that question on more than one occasion. 00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:49.039 And again, in my experience, you know, the best leaders that made the culture positive. 00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:51.920 One of the things that they did is they took a walk. 00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:54.239 Take a walk. 00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:55.440 They took a walk. 00:38:55.440 --> 00:39:00.719 They number one, they would take a walk to clear their own minds. 00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:05.920 So some so there are two types of walk, the walk by yourself and the walk with others. 00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:11.840 So sometimes they were just walking, like gotta get it out again. 00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:22.079 That tactile thing of, you know, like they say, touch grass, go out, breathe some, breathe some non, you know, air conditioned air. 00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:23.599 I know today's not the day to do that, but 00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:24.559 Not today. 00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:27.840 It's 102 outside right now, yeah. 00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:30.719 It's disrespectfully hot out there right now. 00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:40.880 So please do yourself a favor and stay in the air conditioning, but take a walk and just be with yourself. 00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:47.199 And ask, you know, and like how just do that inventory of you, like, how are you today? 00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:48.480 How are you feeling? 00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:49.679 Are you angry? 00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:50.639 Are you sad? 00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:54.960 Are you you don't even know yet, you just know you're something and you don't like it. 00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:56.239 Take a walk. 00:39:56.239 --> 00:40:12.559 And then the other take a walk is again, former pastor, what she would do at the end of every service is she would go to the back door and stand by it and basically greet you as you left it, left the church. 00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:13.199 Yeah. 00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:17.760 There weren't long conversations, but it was just how are you doing? 00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:21.760 And sometimes people were doing okay, and sometimes people were not doing okay. 00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:25.760 And the times when people weren't doing okay, it's like, you know what? 00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:33.039 Let's get some time together where you and I can meet and discuss and get from not okay to okay. 00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:39.360 Sometimes there were progress reports, like things weren't okay the last time I talked to you like this, now they are. 00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:49.519 But it was a time to create an environment where everybody was able for one way for from the youngest to the oldest. 00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:50.400 Yeah. 00:40:50.880 --> 00:41:00.079 Literally would see her bend down and talk to widow kids, like the little two-year-old, you know, got the binky in their mouth and the diaper and you know, holding a stuffy. 00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:06.400 but if they wanted to say hi, she would listen and let them, you know, help them. 00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:10.639 I remember because they would say yeah a lot, and she would say yes. 00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:15.280 When they got to three and four years old, they were saying yes. 00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:19.039 But again, just taking that time to meet people where they were at. 00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:21.760 That's what I mean when I take a walk. 00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:28.239 I have a leader present day, he'll just run the halls and you'll hear him. 00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:31.280 and you'll hear him, not in a bad way. 00:41:31.280 -->

00:41:37.039 It's not like, oh shoot, he's coming, look at no, it's okay, I know what he's doing. 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:37.920 He's taking a walk. 00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:40.880 He's just I call it a little constitutional. 00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:49.920 And he's just stretching his legs and he's checking and hey, and you know, if you catch him, it's like, hey, can I talk to you for a sec? 00:41:49.920 --> 00:42:02.400 You know, and again, you know, you might get a couple of minutes, but again, even those little bitty minutes, just two, three minutes sets the tone for the rest of your day, sets the tone for the rest of your week, could even be the rest of your month. 00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:05.039 because it's like, man, I was stuck on this. 00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:06.960 I'm on this project, I'm stuck on this. 00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:09.599 And he's like, you know, do this, this, this, and this. 00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:11.039 And I'm like, okay, cool. 00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:12.719 Give him a little bit more backstory. 00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:20.159 Because again, I learned I want to give as much information to the leader as possible to make the best decision as possible. 00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:22.719 So this is not the time to hold back. 00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:31.360 But that would be the biggest recommendation is you gotta get out and you gotta, you gotta take a walk. 00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:35.280 In Lean Six Sigma, they call it the gembl walk. 00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:36.559 The gembl walk. 00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:38.320 I'll have to look this one up. 00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:41.920 G like Girl E-M B L. 00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:49.360 I'm glad you spelled that because I wouldn't have even been able to find it in search because I was spelling that so wrong. 00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:50.719 G-E-M-B-L. 00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:52.559 Okay, the gembl walk. 00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:53.360 Alright. 00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:56.000 It's really recommended that that's what leaders do. 00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:57.199 It's take a walk. 00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:07.199 And you— you're basically kind of gauging the temperature of your organization, industry, whatever, whatever the case may be. 00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:16.000 And and you learn in those things, because I've also heard that same leader say, you know, I took a walk and I had a conversation with fill in the blank. 00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:29.440 And again, was something that was really weighing down on that person's mind, but being able to have that conversation and just talk it out was able to really iron out a whole lot of wrinkles that made our process run so much smoother. 00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:29.920 Yeah. 00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:42.800 And, and again, but if what you and you think, well, what would have happened if the leader hadn't taken the walk and hadn't have had that three to five minute conversation with so and so? 00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:44.400 What would have been missed? 00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:46.239 What

would have been dropped? 00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:53.599 So while some people may see that again, looking at that facet again, some people may see that as wasting time. 00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:59.599 When you think about what you're trying to do in the course of a day and and the intentionality. 00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:00.880 Behind the walk. 00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:02.719 You're not just walking the walk. 00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:09.920 You're walking to inform, to be informed, to allay fears and concerns. 00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:13.840 Because sometimes, again, even as adults, we operate out of anxiety. 00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:14.320 Absolutely. 00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:16.480 Absolutely. 00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:19.920 And leaders can basically just tell somebody, you know what? 00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:24.400 Just like a parent, when a little kid is afraid of thunder and lightning, you know what? 00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:25.519 It's going to be okay. 00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:32.559 And then not only do you learn that it's going to be okay with the thunder and lightning, you grow to appreciate the thunder and lightning. 00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:33.039 Yeah. 00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:45.599 Because you know that it's because you know that okay, thunder and lightning, it's gonna be rain and and then everything's gonna be good and green, and the flowers are gonna be all nice and pretty and smell really nice and sweet in the morning. 00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:46.480 Yeah. 00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:51.440 And so, you know, you learn how not to be afraid. 00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:54.880 You actually learn to lean into it instead of lean away from it. 00:44:55.760 --> 00:45:00.000 I like the way, I like the way you explain that, Stacey. 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.480 It really kind of helps me get into it. 00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:09.360 And I appreciate it because take a walk is kind of a catchphrase that we all can remember. 00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:11.280 So I like that a lot. 00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:26.239 So, Stacey, let's say for people that are listening who you've maybe piqued their interest about public health and the work that they're doing, how can they find out more about the UNMC College of Public Health? 00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:27.679 We have a website. 00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:28.800 Okay, all right. 00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:32.239 This is always my invitation for people to give me their websites. 00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:38.719 And we will have your website in the show notes on KidGlov, KidGlov's website as well. 00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:40.480 But give us your website address. 00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:40.960 Yeah. 00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:52.480 So it's well, I always go to, and I apologize, it's unmc.edu, and you go to colleges and institutes, and you just click on College of Public Health. 00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:53.360 I love it. 00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:54.480 Boom. 00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:57.039 You know, that's the easy way to do it, I think. 00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:03.119 Yeah,

you have two, three clicks, and you're there, and you can do it on your phone, you can do it on a computer, you do it on your tablet. 00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:03.920 That's great. 00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:06.719 You can also come to campus and talk to us. 00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:07.599 We're here. 00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:14.960 Well, yeah, just we're also on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram. 00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:20.800 You know, again, just put in UNMC College of Public Health. 00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:22.159 We'll pop up. 00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:30.719 You can find out about all the good things we're doing both on campus and outside of campus, both in Omaha and all throughout the world. 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:31.760 Wonderful. 00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:38.239 Well, I will get all of those links on the on the the show notes for this episode as well, Stacey. 00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:42.000 because I want to ask you my favorite question next. 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.039 I've asked it on every episode of the podcast. 00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:46.800 Here we go. 00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:48.079 It's the big one. 00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:49.840 Stacey Coleman. 00:46:49.840 --> 00:47:00.719 I am inspired by motivational quotes, and I want a Stacey Coleman original quote to inspire our listeners. 00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:02.639 Okay, are you ready? 00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:03.280 I'm ready. 00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:05.920 I've thought about this for several days now. 00:47:05.610 --> 00:47:05.920 Alright. 00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:10.559 Apply the fried chicken theory to life. 00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:12.239 Okay. 00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:13.199 I love it. 00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:14.639 Eat the meat and spit out the bones. 00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:17.599 Eat the meat and spit out the bones. 00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:28.400 Apply the— I have never, I have heard a lot of quotes in the course of doing this podcast, but I have never heard one like that. 00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:29.119 I love it. 00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:29.599 Yes. 00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:32.880 Apply the fried chicken, what'd you call it? 00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:33.679 Principle? 00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:35.440 Fried chicken theory. 00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:36.320 Theory. 00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:38.639 You eat the meat and spit out the bones. 00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:41.679 Out the bones. I love it. 00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:42.719 That is so good. 00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:46.480 Stacey, I have so loved this conversation with you. 00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:58.559 And as we wrap up today, I'd love to hear what is the most important thing you would like our listeners to remember about the work that you're doing. 00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:04.719 This work is 100% necessary work. 00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:06.159 Yeah. 00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:12.800 Doesn't matter who you are, what you believe, we all need to be healthy. 00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:16.159 And we all need others to be healthy. 00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:21.199 If COVID-19 pandemic taught us nothing, is that we all need each other. 00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:21.840 Yeah. 00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:25.360 Even the hermits amongst us need each other. 00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:25.760 Yeah. 00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:28.000 And we need each other to be healthy. 00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:31.519 And that's not just physically. 00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:37.920 Because public health is not just physical health, it's mental, mental, physical, all of it. 00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:43.199 So yeah, that's that's the big that's that's the biggest thing. 00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:47.119 Ain't nobody getting through this life by themselves. 00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:48.880 I love it. 00:48:48.880 --> 00:49:00.400 Stacey, on that note, I'm gonna say I fully believe the world needs more people like you, more organizations like UNMC College of Public Health. 00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:06.800 And I just really appreciate you taking time from your busy, busy schedule to talk with us today. 00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:11.360 Well, thank you for taking time out of your busy, busy schedule to talk with me today. 00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:12.880 And I hope that this helped you. 00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:14.639 I hope this helped your listeners. 00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:19.199 And if anybody has any questions for me, feel free to reach out anytime. 00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:20.719 Sounds great, Stacey. 00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:22.000 Thanks so much. 00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:23.280 Thank you. 00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:27.679 We hope you enjoyed today's Agency for Change podcast. 00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:40.400 To hear all our interviews with those who are making a positive change in our communities, or to nominate a changemaker you'd love to hear from, visit kidglov.com at K-I-D-G-L-O-V dot com to get in touch. 00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:45.199 As always, if you like what you've heard today, be sure to rate, review, subscribe, and share. 00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:47.360 Thanks for listening, and we'll see you next time.